right now on "andrea mitchell reports," republicans on the cusp of taking the house, with just a few seats left to call. democrats will likely lose the gavel, but by only the slimmest

of margins. the newly elected freshman class taking a group photo on the capitol steps today as kevin mccarthy tries to beat down a conservative rebellion in a party leadership vote this afternoon. steve kornacki is at the big board. i will talk to jim clyburn. katie hobbs defeats kari lake. the former president is pressing forward with a 2024 election announcement tonight, despite even members of his party calling him the biggest loser. >> president trump was an albatross on the electoral prospects of some of our candidates. he is like the aging pitcher who keeps losing games. if we want to win, we need a different pitcher on the mound. >> i will speak to jackie rosen

about democrats winning nevada and what's possible in a divided congress. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. thanks for being with us. we could hear soon about who will control the house. republicans waiting. they are planning to choose a party leader who will be their candidate for speaker. first, overnight results from arizona where election denier kari lake is following the trump model, refusing to concede the governor's race. steve kornacki joins us at the big board. president biden called katie hobbs to congratulate her. what took her over the finish line? how are the outstanding house races looking? you have 14 uncalled seats. >> as it always is the case in arizona when it's close, it came

down to maricopa county. there was a particular type of ballot in maricopa county, it's the phoenix metro area. it was mail-in ballots voters dropped off in person on election day. there were almost 300,000 in this county. they were basically releasing the results from them about 75,000, 80,000 a night. that's been going on for several nights. republicans have been saying, lake's campaign, republicans saying, when you get to that batch, it's going to be a very friendly batch. lake had been trailing in the tally since election night. they were saying, this is what was going to put them over the top. last night, maricopa said, this is our final big batch. lake was trailing by 30,000 when that was released. she did do well with that release, but show didn't do well enough. she got 57%. all that did was cut into hobbs' lead, but it didn't erase it and put lake in any position where with what is outstanding, which

isn't that much, where she could overtake katie hobbs. kari lake falls short. hobbs wins the governorship. it's notable. just as this happened, the governorship was decided for the democrat. but there was a key competitive congressional race in maricopa county. a republican incumbent democrats wanted to unseat, he did well. he took a 3,000 vote lead and for nbc news to declare him a winner. this was critical. this is one of the districts democrats trying to find that path to 218 seats to hang on to the majority. this is one they absolutely needed. just as republicans were losing the governorship, they were winning the first district in arizona and they also last night picked up the sixth district as well. it was similar here that came down to the final vote. they actually picked up two house seats, republicans did, or

won two house districts. if you zoom out and look where things stand for the house right now, it's basically this. republicans right now are sitting on 215 seats. democrats are sitting here on 207. here are the uncalled democrat versus republican seats. take a look, the reason they feel confident is they need three. take a look at a couple. 27th district of california, mike garcia has an advantage of nearly ten points. the democrat all but conceded. the 41st district, ken calvert leading here. the 45th district, michelle steel expanded her lead. the 3rd district, the republican candidate with republican areas to come here, opening up an advantage of 10,000 votes. that's four right there in

california where republicans have the lead in the tally. they only need three of them. democrats would have to win a couple of those, which would be a very big surprise at this point to prevent republicans from getting 218. it's moving from will republicans get to 218 to will they have a pad? can they get up to 220? 221? >> quickly on some of the california races, katie porter and -- >> the democrat actually was not a great update for her. this race tightened. scott baugh gained ground. this porter race is far from settled. if baugh can get another update like yesterday, he could be in the game. josh heard, he is doing well,

but we see this in a few districts, slow count. >> they could be -- we, nbc news, could be calling the house relatively soon, but you could still have some of the races not yet decided in california for quite a few days more? >> exactly. the count could go into next week. i think, especially with some updates coming later today, you can get clarity in some of the critical ones. >> steve kornacki, we will be watching. joining us now, jim clyburn, democrats from south carolina. mr. leader, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you very much for having me. >> congratulations are in order. democrats did far better than historic precedent from any recent midterms first-term president, of course, with polling in the mid 40s. but the republicans are about to take control of the house. according to all analysis of the outstanding races.

as a minority, talk to me about your own leadership. do democrats do better defending your top priorities with a new generation of leadership or with experienced veterans? >> you know, you always want to be set in the agenda. if we are not in the majority in the house, there's still a pathway, maybe not as realistic as the pathway is for the republicans to regain the majority, we are still in the game. and if we are not able to set the agenda, we certainly want to be able to affect that agenda. i think the numbers are such that we can do that. i don't know exactly what our leadership will look like. i think that i have demonstrated during my years here in the congress, and, of course, back in 2020, most people talking

about the year 2022, went into 24 congressional districts and i saw something out there that i wasn't getting in all the reporting. i made those reports to people i talked to, especially in the media, the weekend before the election. we were connected with the american public. president biden's agenda and his approach were exactly what the public seemed to want to secure. that's why we did as well as we did, because joe biden proved to be the right president at the right time in this american experiment we call democracy and his agenda was exactly what the public needed. now people judge him on style rather than substance. i always say, there's no

substitute for substance. when it comes to substance, this administration, these democrats have been very substantive in effecting the lives of the american people. we have demonstrated what our program will do for them, for their families and for the communities. and that's why they responded so positively, and that's why we were able to defy all odds. >> let me just ask -- go ahead. i'm sorry, sir. >> i've always said that this country does not move on a linear plane. we go right for a while, then left for a while. whether we go left to right or right to left, it's always passing through the center. in this instance, the center held. this country has been brought back from the brink by the voters as they have done time

and time again throughout our history. i believe that we have been set back on course toward our pursuit of a more perfect union. and i'm very, very pleased with what happened. i'd rather be in the majority than the minority, but i think the country was the big winner last tuesday. >> let me ask you a couple of quick questions, because no question that abortion and the issue of democracy and rejection of extremism was part of this mix. according to the exit polls, overwhelming majority of people did not like the president's policies and don't want him to run again. while he framed the issues and there's no question that that speech about democracy and the abortion voting and where the swing voters were going all was in the democrat favor for democratic candidates.

but what does this tell you about going forward in 2024? i know you were the kingmaker in 2020. should he run again? >> i said back in 2020 when everybody was advising me that i was making a mistake, i looked at what needed to be done. i listened to my late wife who told me before she passed away that if hewanted to win, i need to go all in. now all the experts say he is the only democrat in the big field that could have won. i feel today like i felt back then. joe biden, his agenda, his approach are the things that this country needs at the present time. this vote, if you look at the things we did, the rescue act, the infrastructure bill, the

chips and science act, inflation reduction act, the safer communities act, we had the biggest production of a congress in an administration since 1965. you have to go back to the great society programs to see anything more productive. i believe we can build upon that. why do i believe that? because so much of what we won on was the promise. now we see the inflation reduction act, insulin cap as well as negotiating costs for medicare. these things kick if as of january 1. i think that over into next year, when people start seeing the benefit of the inflation reduction act and inflation already is pointing downward, i think the american people are going to get in touch with this president and say, we like your

approach, we like your agenda and we want you to stay in the game. >> one quick question. what about the john lewis act in the lame duck before you lose control of the house? >> well, i have been pushing for the democrats to attach that to our must pass bill, whatever we do here in the lame duck. we gotta do something to make sure that we don't have another january 6. and that's what the electoral collection -- college is all about. why not attach to the bill at least a vote for the john r. lewis voting rights and the passing of that? if nothing else, tie to it the kind of review that ought to take place when we have these changes in state laws. some states are making it very difficult, even criminalizing giving people a drink of water that are standing in live for

five or six hours. this should not be. i believe the electoral college reform act, john r. lewis voting rights advancement act, ought to be folded in together and passed by the senate. i don't know why anybody in the senate would not want us to have fair and unfettered votes. we never would have gotten the voting rights act but for g. everett dixon. i laugh about the deal i had with my wife when our first child was born. she gave me the right to come up with a name. if it was a boy, it would have been j. everett. it was a girl because she wasn't going along with my deal so well. this is not democrat versus republican. this is right versus wrong. fair versus unfair.

suppressing the vote versus encouraging the vote. that's why we ought to pass the john r. lewis voting rights act. it ought to be bipartisan. it ought to be ten republicans who say there is something wrong with telling people you can't give an 80-year-old person a bottle of water standing in line for five or six hours. that's what they have done with some of the laws. that's because they got rid of the -- the supreme court did of section 4 that authorized a review from section 5 of the voting rights action. that should not be. >> mr. leader, your wife was a great lady. >> thank you. >> i know she's missed. thank you for being with us today. it's always a privilege. >> thank you so much for having me. turning to the senate where democrats could increase their majority if they win that race

in georgia. joining us now, jackie rosen of nevada where senator cortez masto won re-election, putting you over the top. nevada did it again. the late harry reid, his spirit lives on practically with the get out of vote effort. let me ask you about how important is georgia? senator schumer was trying to emphasize why it's not just one more vote, it's the fact that you get control of the committees. >> that's right. i was so proud to -- thank you for having me here in studio. >> it's great to have you here. >> i want to say, nevada delivered. nevada delivered the majority to the senate. why? because we got out the grass-roots effort, because our federal candidates knew the kitchen table issues were the most important thing to our voters, the same way they know that in georgia, the same way they know senator warnock is going to deliver on those

kitchen table issues. we have as congressman clyburn has said with the infrastructure law, with the gun safety legislation, historic legislation, majority bipartisan. herschel walker on the other hand underperforming other republicans in his state as far as i've been told. i think reverend warnock, senator warnock is doing a good job. he will put us to 51. we will have control of our committees and put forth a few more pieces of legislation. >> as senator schumer was saying, the magic of 51 and not the divided leadership that was the agreement shared leadership with mitch mcconnell was that it had -- every committee had to be even numbered rather than the majority having extra seats. so every vote on a controversial nominee or a well-qualiied but

politically difficult nominee had to have that extra weeks of process to get it out to the floor. >> you are right. it's going to save us time. when we have something important to do, we're going to be able to vote it out of committee without taking extra votes and extra floor time. what will that allow us to do? deliver for the american people. we have to work on childcare. we have to work on affordable housing. we want to try to continue to work on immigration reform, middle class tax cuts. we have a lot to do. >> what can you do to save the student loan process? that's facing one rejection at the federal court level after another. the administration will appeal to the supreme court, but that's not a great prospect. >> we have to let it play out. we have to try to devise and see what legislation we can do to help those who are struggling with student loan debt. in addition to that, we have those who haven't gone to college. we have to be sure that we take care of them. we have to really, i believe,

with all the bills we have been passing for infrastructure, chips and science, it's going to require a robust workforce. we have to invest in education, in our workforce training, apprenticeships. we have over 90 in nevada. people earn while they learn. community college, certificates and degrees. i think this is just part of the solution. investing in robust workforce education is the second piece we need to work on. >> adam laxalt has conceded. the trump election deniers campaigned on that, this time except for kari lake, they are conceding in new hampshire, in pennsylvania. they are at least not challenging the election results. what about the violence and the threat of violence to poll workers? do you think as the speaker conceded in answer to a question the other day that the attack a week before the election on paul

pelosi and the republican reactions, the mocking from donald trump and from others, kari lake, that that had an impact on perhaps swing voters? >> i certainly hope so. i hope it sends shivers down everybody's spine to think somebody who is working at a poll, trying to volunteer their time for democracy, not democrat or republican, but for democracy. in nevada, we have universal mail-in voting, robust early voting, day-of voting. we need volunteers. we need the paid professionals to do it. i think that what makes america different from other countries is that we have had this peaceful discourse, peaceful transitions of power, regardless what happened on january 6. >> what about the safety for members, for senators, families? >> i think all of us are concerned about that. particularly for our families. there are many congress people,

senators who have young children. they go to school. they have to be worried all the time. i think that we're going to have to address that, maybe put some extra funding in for personal security like we were able to do for our judges and supreme court justices as they were getting threatened. it isn't right. i hope the american people see that. i believe this election, as you have seen what's happened, we retained our majority hoping to expand it. pretty close in the house. i think you can see that those election deniers and ones who might promote the violence didn't succeed so well in most places in this country. i think that's a referendum on what's important to people. >> it's a pleasure to have you here. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. making a run for it. as donald trump prepares to announce his bid for the presidency tonight, will more republicans disavow the former president? stay with us. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless

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after weeks of trumpeting his plan to run again, which many republicans say helped defeat their candidates in the midterms, donald trump is expected to make it official tonight. this morning, liz cheney mocked mr. trump's big announcement. >> this is certainly not the rollout i'm sure donald trump wanted for his announcement tonight. you know, it's also not the first time he has been totally detached from reality. >> joining me now, vaughan hillyard, peter baker, brendan buck, robert gibbs, and barbara mcquaid.

this is an interesting day to make this announcement. why is he going ahead with it? i guess because he's donald trump, right? >> reporter: right. number one, he has never really ended his presidential campaign, daing back to january 2021. then you saw him throughout 2021 calling for the rescinding of the 2020 election. he called for a new election. as late as this summer, he was pressuring the wisconsin legislature to overturn their results and decertify it. this is just a buildup here in what was a year of 2022 which was in large part a revenge tour. he crisscrossed the country. i was at most of the rallies with him when he went from michigan targeting fred upton, down to georgia targeting raffensperger and brian kemp, south carolina targeting rice, wyoming targeting liz cheney.

it was twofold. he was able to shape the republican party more into his vision by essentially getting eight of the ten individuals in the house who voted to impeach him out of office. several other republican senators who voted to convict him, they decided to retire here at the end of the year. that is where you see general election come about. those candidates who he backed, mehmet oz, kari lake, tim michaels, each losing in staggering defeats here. this was a very difficult backdrop for him to make this announcement. he touted he was going to make this tuesday night announcement before election day. the idea was that at the end of 2022, he would have allies with him that he would be able to campaign with around the country and build that support for 2024. now it's very much going to be him here at mar-a-lago and

making the case that not much unlike those 2022 candidates just made and failed on, but he will try to make that case again looking toward 2023. >> vaughan hillyard in mar-a-lago, he has remade the party in his image. now they have to figure out how to pick up the pieces. peter, among those, mitt romney calling him an albatross. mike pence, this on abc. >> do you believe that donald trump should ever be president again? >> david, i think that's up to the american people. but i think we will have better choices in the future. >> peter, there's a new poll. i know you have been digging through it. it's no longer supporting trump. it shows trump trailing ron desantis in new hampshire and iowa by double digits. that's not going to make him happy today.

>> no, it won't. this is not even the only poll showing things like that. the texas republican party not exactly a bastion of liberalism, showing desantis up. this is the first time we have seen trump trailing other republicans since the early days of his primaries in 2016 when he was rocketing up the polls to take that nomination. it's a moment of weakness for him. does that mean he is done? does that mean the republicans are moving on? we should be careful about counting him out. he has been counted out before and he managed to defy the expectations. the republican party wasn't willing to dump him after january 6th, is this moment going to be the moment they do? once they see that he is vulnerable, it's possible they begin to move on. one reason they stuck with him for so long was because they perceived him to be popular and powerful with the base. i asked a republican senator, who didn't like president trump,

why do you stick with him? in my state, he gets 88% support from the republicans, from my own constituents. what do you want me to do? if the polls are the beginning of something larger within the republican party, then you might begin to see a much tougher road ahead for donald trump as he seeks to return to the white house. >> brendan, you know the house so well having worked for both speakers boehner and ryan. today, this afternoon, kevin mccarthy is testing the waters, testing his vote count for republican leadership and preliminary toward the speaker house. he has to win 218 majority of the whole house in january. what do you see happening here as some conservatives are rebelling against him? >> i think this is a leverage play today. they will try to run up as many votes as they can to defeat him. kevin mccarthy will clearly get more than a majority in the conference. when paul ryan first ran for speaker, we had this behind

closed doors vote as well. he lost 40 something members. then next day we turned around and had an easy vote on the floor. these members are going to try to demonstrate that kevin mccarthy doesn't have 218 votes right now. i think everybody understands that. what happens from today until the beginning of january whether -- when they vote, what concessions will he make? he's in a strong position. everybody will realize kevin mccarthy is the only person who can get 218 votes. most people want him to get 218 votes. the people who are holding out are going to really upset their colleagues. there's going to become pressure within the conference to simply knock it off. kevin will give what he needs to give to get there. i think he will become the next speaker of the house. >> robert, you have joe biden now in bali watching this and calling people and congratulating them. he will be working with a

divided congress going forward yet with a very slim majority. you have seen this before with other presidents. how does he deal with the new reality? >> it's a great question. i think they will look to the past a bit for how they operate now in the future. we saw with infrastructure and other important pieces of legislation, there is a chance to build a bipartisan coalition to get some of these things passed. i think they will also look to the past to understand that they can pivot off of a republican congress. in 1994, bill clinton lost control of congress but was re-elected in 1996. obama in 2010 gets the shellacking we have all talked about, but won in 2012, largely playing off of the outside of the mainstream congress. the white house will look to pivot off of that. but also look for chances that

they could possibly pick up some bipartisan legislation, things like lifting the debt ceiling, economic things. this will get a test wednesday as the senate votes on gay marriage. >> barb, "the washington post" is reporting that an initial analysis of the seized documents from mar-a-lago indicate federal agents and prosecutors believe that donald trump took them for his ego, mementos, things to show off, not because of potential financial gain. legally, does that make any different whether to prosecute? >> legally, it doesn't. it's not an element of any of the offenses of retaining government documendocuments, wi retaining national defense information or obstruction of justice. i suppose one of the aggravating factors is if someone is acting with a disloyalty to the united

states, sell them or share them to a foreign government. that doesn't end the inquiry. among the aggravating factors are obstruction of justice and a willful violation. it seems like those two factors are present here. although it would be far more egregious if he were planning to sell them to a foreign government, it does not in any way suggest that he is not a worthy target of criminal charges in light of what he has done and what his apparent motives are. >> barbara, peter, brendan, john and vaughan. a heartbreaking remembrance was held last night for three university of virginia student athletes killed on campus. thousands of students and neighbors gathered on the lawn there to honor the football players.

classes were canceled today. the suspected gunman a former member of the football squad, expected to be arraigned tomorrow. his father telling nbc news that his son was being bullied and acting paranoid. the uva head football coach saying the victims, quote, these precious young men were called away too soon, they touched us, inspired us and worked hard as representatives of the university and community. rest in peace, young men. dad and i finally had that talk. no, not that talk. about what the future looks like. for me. i may have trouble getting around, but i want to live in my home where i'm comfortable and my friends are nearby. i can do it with the help of a barber, personal shopper and exercise buddy. someone who can help me live right at home. life's good. when you have a plan.

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president biden skipped the g20 dinner in indonesia tonight. white house officials say the president is not sick but he had other matters at home he wanted to attend to. earlier, the president led the leaders in condemning russia's invasion of ukraine and demanding that putin withdraw his forces.

ukraine's president zelenskyy speaking to the summit via video and declaring, now is the time for the war to end. kelly o'donnell is traveling with the president and burning the post midnight oil. thanks for staying up. any update on the president's health? we know the cambodian leader has come down with covid. >> reporter: that raised concerns. the president tested negative. but he had acknowledged that he had a bit of a cold. his absence at this dinner did stand out to us. that is unusual. we were not notified that he would not attend the gala dinner until recently all of the other guests were in place. we have talked to a number of white house officials who say that he contacted the indonesian host and said he just had other matters to attend to. white house officials say he ve.

this is the third stop on what is a tour that takes him all the way around the world. the hours have been long. perhaps it was a combination of those things. they say he is not unwell and had other things to focus on. at the same time, a number of national security officials were out and about. we don't think that there was any evidence of some other big event that might have drawn his attention way. it's curious. it's unusual. they are saying he just had other things that he needed to do. we will be watching that space for any more development there. on the larger issues that have been happening here, as you know, ukraine is a major concern for president biden, who wants to solidify support and a number of the other nations do as well. there's push here to try to have g20 focus on some of its core issues of poverty and on economic expansion, on some of the other things. trying to keep a more unified voice and bring along some of the countries that have not been

as outspoken about russia is certainly something that president biden has wanted to do. it's been so notable here with president zelenskyy addressing this group via a virtual address and knowing that the soviet -- that's a throwback for you, the russian foreign minister here was here in the presence of vladimir putin, that kind of tension is very real here. will they get to the same place when this meeting continues? that is a key question. the tension is real. issues are prominent. they are working it through. ukraine is dominating here. >> kelly o'donnell, amazing energy. i don't know how you do it. thanks so much. joining us now, barry mccalf -- mccaffrey. good to see you. air strikes are being reported across ukraine, including kyiv.

president zelenskyy said it's the beginning of the end of the war. does he have that right? >> it's clear that ukraine is winning, both politically in terms of pulling to the an international support, economic constraints on russia, the armed forced have been magnificent at a high cost. what is clearly also happening, the russians in the last 24 hours fired more than 85 missiles targeting the energy infrastructure of ukraine. it's knocked a lot of it out. it is unlikely that will end the war. but it does show you, it seems to me, that putin is 100% committed to his political survival to continue the fighting. he is doing very badly. this war isn't over. i don't think it's going to slow

down during the winter. a lot of discussion about valley forge, fighting picking up in the spring. this is a fight to the death. the russians are doing very badly. >> russia is destroying so much of the infrastructure. in kherson, there's no power. it's cold. how does ukraine get through this winter with this carpet bombing? >> well, to be honest, i think they're going to get through it. it's going toject mystery for the civilian population. take a look at past aerial bombardments of societies. germans, brits in world war ii, it almost never brings a society to their knees. it's not going to happen. it's going to be abject misery, but i think the ukrainians will

have a massive amount of support from the west. the russians are running out of steam. putin has lost the strategic conflict already. now we are talking about, where is the outcome? where is the end game? zelenskyy ought to be talking to him. when you are winning is when you use diplomacy. i hope he does reach out to the russians and gets not just a cease-fire but some end game in sight and then force the russian russians to cave in and talk. >> we have seen some disagreement within the administration. don't want to overstate it. general milley and others pushing from the pentagon for some kind of talks now that ukraine has some leverage here territorially. at the same time, the state

department of the administration not wanting to get there yet. don't think it's time. don't want to be perceived as putting pressure on zelenskyy. where do you come down on that? >> i think, again, it's the public optics of it. nobody wants publically to call on zelenskyy to give in, to hand over crimea, to agree the two breakaway provinces are russian territory. it's the public part that bothers the white house. this is a good time for zelenskyy to talk. i think he was doing that at his call to the g20 saying now is the time for the war to end. the problem is putin's political and possibly physical survival won't allow him to give up. the objective wasn't just the border regions. it was the entire area of ukraine. he is not going to back off

that. the question is in russia, the political isolation, is it going to force the elites to say, we have had enough? so far, that's not likely. >> barry mccaffrey, thank you so much. >> good to be with you. big spenders. the bills racked up by several international players at trump's d.c. hotel during his presidency. were they attempting to sway u.s. policy? that's next. stay with us on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. reports" on m. r one for both rivers and oceans by travel and leisure, as well as condé nast traveler. but it is now time for us to work even harder, searching for meaningful experiences and new adventures for you to embark upon. they say when you reach the top, there's only one way to go. we say, that way is onwards. viking. exploring the world in comfort.

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over the world spent hundreds of thousands of dollars at trump facility in washington, d.c., often as they were negotiating diplomatic, military and trade deals with the administration. joining me now is anna schecter reporting on this. it's extraordinary the money and the timing. they were spending $85,000 for one stay from the saudis. more than $9,000 for -- $1,500 for a personal trainer for the malaysian leader when he was fighting corruption investigations. more than $9,000 for coffee breaks. how much influence were they trying to buy? >> reporter: that's right. the hotel receipts, which are line by line, you see every single charge, that $10,000 a night stay, banquets, personal trainer, laundry, it's

unprecedented to get these kinds of receipts. they came at the key moments when the six foreign governments were trying to negotiate with the u.s. government and influence u.s. foreign policy. they often came right before or after then president donald trump met with officials from those countries or the heads of state. the time line laid out in these documents that were issued on monday by the house committee on oversight and reform, you really see how the timing was so key in the spending at the hotel. it was fascinating to dig into it and to read in on these findings. >> is there any way to make a direct connection other than the, quote, coincidence of the timing, to attempts to gain influence with the administration by spending so much money at their hotel?

>> that's a great question. you have to take it case by case. for the malaysians, they spent more than $250,000 in just a week's time at the hotel at a key moment when the justice department was investigating the prime minister and his family for embezzling billions of dollars from a malaysian sovereign wealth fund and laundering that through the u.s. financial institutions to buy a yacht, art by monet and luxury real estate. that effort was ultimately unsuccessful, and the doj pursued pursued its civil forfeiture, and then you look at the saudis, and they and the emroddies were trying to gain support from the trump administration in their blockade against qatar, and they were

trying to fire who had been opposed to the blockade, and we can't say if the money spent had any impact, but within a few days of one of the stays and one of those week-long expenditures, tillerson was fired. >> and goddard ended up spending money as well, and they had both sides paying for help in that hard-fought embargo effort, which i had been covering at the time. thank you for the back story on all of this. thank you so much. why pollsters keep reading the latino pollsters wrong. no pg pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm asking about prevnar 20® because there's a chance pneumococcal pneumonia could put me in the hospital. if you're 19 or older,

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for the latino voters, there's no pattern to the party. in new mexico, latino voters acted differently in traditionally blue held areas, and then in texas it was different. let's talk about this. it's so good to have you here. what you have been analyzing is the fact that neither party has really figured out how to reach out to the voters, and the republicans are doing a better job in recent cycles than the democrats? >> yes, except the midterms put a little bit more clarity there, right, and my mantra, andrea, and it's good to be here with you, an icon, and my mantra is

the latinos and latinas are a big voting bloc, and yes, the republicans have been doing a better job at the outreach, and even with doing a better job at the outreach, joe biden delivered the best midterms than any president over the last two decades, and not going hard for latinos and latinas. and that the fight for the latino vote is on, and i want to see what will happen now. >> they won in pennsylvania, nevada, arizona, and not so much in florida, which is more complicated because of the large cuban american cohort, which has been traditionally republican on foreign policy as well as cultural issues. >> interestingly, the opposite is florida is john fetterman in pennsylvania, with a former documented immigrant wife, going hard to immigrant issues.

he delivered 68% of the latino vote. let me make sure i got that right. it's a huge number. 68% of the latino vote. >> that's so interesting. his wife was a major factor, and she carried the campaign when he was suffering from the dangerous stroke. >> voters connected with that, because she's telling this true story. the interesting thing about desantis, yes, he does well in florida. if you look at the latino vote, will somebody like desantis play with the latino population across the country? i don't know if you will have latino voters attracted to somebody like ron desantis or republican voters attracted. >> they found latino voters in the rio grande, many were supporting the migration buses

where abbott and desantis was sending them where they did not know where they were going and further away from their hearings. >> we have a party that has run on one position, build a wall and that's it, and the inhumanity of the immigrants. you know what is out of control on the border, andrea? it's not human beings trying to find their way, but it's the militarization at the border. flores did not win, and she was the maga latina, and she did not win, and abbott won but he did not win the latino vote as much as he wanted to. it remains a vote to be sought after, and that's the message, right, if we are the second

largest voting cohort, make sure you are taking it seriously, because the votes are there. >> such an important message. love talking to you. come back soon. >> i will be back as soon as i am back in d.c. thank you. that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. chris jansing is right after this. is (vo) verizon small business days are back. and there's never been a better time to switch. get our best offers of the year on business internet.

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good day. i am chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. time something everything in politics, so what does it say about donald trump that he would pick now, tonight, to announce his third presidential campaign at a time when congressional republicans are in a mad scramble for power? his hand picked candidates flamed out and his own