in eight days later. i want to thank libby and rick. the house will be under republican control under this projection by nbc now. based on the new numbers that came in, up to a 7-seat majority. 221, plus or minus two seattles. it sets off the developments we'll be tracking tonight, and tomorrow and the days ahead. who will run the house caucus. does kevin mccarthy have the votes. does it face open opposition and what is to become of the democratic side as nancy pelosi moves from speaker into the minority. ""the reidout" with joy reid picks up our coverage tonight. >> tonight. >> they said during the 2016 campaign if he becomes

president, there will never be a war within week, and we will have wars like you've never seen before. it will happen immediately, and yet i've gone decades, decades without a war, the first president to do for that long a period. >> decades? well, he's running again claiming that he kept the peace for decades during his four-year term as president. the math ain't mathing, folks, and some republicans say they are done with trump. has the media learned anything about how to proper cover a trump candidacy. it's official, nbc news projected that republicans will take control of the house with what will likely be a razor thin margin. pramila jayapal will join me to discuss implications. the republican blame game with victory in the house, the leadership conflict highlight deep divisions in the party. they're all to blame for

enabling trump. breaking news, nbc news projects that the republicans will take control of the house of representatives in january. the republicans have now secured 218 seats, the exact number they need for control. the results come with major consequences as we wade through this political era of zero consequences. kevin mccarthy is a major step closer to his precious, the gavel, as he was just nominated on tuesday by house republicans to serve as speaker of the house when the new session of congress starts in january. but mccarthy or my kevin as donald trump calls him faces a daunting challenge of having to wrestle a far right wing within his own party. including marjorie taylor greene, paul gosar, matt gaetz. gaetz has said he won't vote for kevin mccarthy in january no matter what. it boils down to the blame game. something that mccarthy's senate counter part is entrenched in.

mitch mcconnell was reelected as the republican senate leader after the party failed to pick up seats in the midterm elections. there's a lot of finger pointing over what went wrong, from senator rick scott saying his party didn't stand for ideas. actually, rick, your plan was to slash medicare and social security. you have a lot of republicans, once zealous trump allies blaming the dear leader while others are rushing to his defense. >> i think senator mcconnell's view is trump is largely to blame and republicans have an image problem because of trump. i have to say i don't agree with that. >> some of the senators point the finger at donald trump and i think that is convenient for senate republicans to place the blame somewhere else. my view is there's plenty of blame to go around. >> meanwhile, mitch mcconnell who trump blamed for the party's election losses says voters were too spooked by the party's messaging and overall bad vibes.

>> we under performed among voters who did not like president biden's performance among independents and moderate republicans who looked at us and concluded too much chaos, too much negativity, and we turned off a lot of the centrist voters which is why i never predicted a red wave to begin with. >> nice try, mitch, placing the blame on everyone but the man in the mirror because the truth is the person who is most to blame for history's promise of a red wave turning out to be a red puddle is actually mitch mcconnell because no one did more to save and salvage donald trump at every rotten moment in his presidency, lobbying his caucus to vote no on impeachment, refusing to investigate his flouting of the law, literally standing inert for four long years, and for one singular reason, the courts.

to get trump to sign off on the far right wing judges that mitch craved. no one did more to banish roe v. wade than the republican senate leader who gloated over the fact that he blocked president obama's supreme court pick while practically galloping, mitch tolerated and accepted the chaos and the horrors of a trump presidency. he enabled it all because the power to shape the courts was the only thing he cared about, and then he got it. and it was mitch and donald's court which banished row roe, which cost the election. mcconnell served as trump's enabler. both are unwilling to blame themselves for the red puddle. did they blame trump who is a candidate in 2024. joining me is david jolly former republican congressman from

georgia. and sahil kapur, nbc senior international political reporter and my colleague in the d.c. bureau. it's so great to see you. i want to start with david. i want to play for you what adam kinzinger who was on nicolle's show a couple of hours ago. this is what he had to say about kevin mccarthy, now the likely incoming speaker of the house. >> before the election, i started to notice he was defending donald trump more than he was defending his own members of congress, but he's the guy, he is the entire reason donald trump is still a political figure because in the caucus, in the republican caucus, after january 6th, there were some of us speaking out. there was a lot of crickets. people trying to figure out where was this going to go, and the second kevin mccarthy in his cowardice showed up to mar-a-lago, it changed the tenor. kevin mccarthy is a coward.

if he becomes speaker, it will be the worst time in his life and history will not be kind to him. >> david, it is very difficult to listen to blame donald trump when the people who had the power to do something about donald trump both before january 6th and after did what you just heard kinzinger say, your thoughts. >> thaurngs thank you, thank you, we are letting people getting away for blaming donald trump for last tuesday. the truth is exactly as you have presented, he has been enabled and celebrated by a party. more son so than that, i don't like the word trumpisment the truth is today's republican party has embraced this populism that donald trump introduced to the party, embraced with open arms by the likes of mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, and candidates up and down the republican ticket. donald trump has reshaped the party in his image. he did things that violated the

constitution and kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell and weak kneed leaders let him get away with it. this is the most predictable stage. now that it is convenient to cut trump loose, because he's a head wind, they're ready to do it. that speaks more to the character of mccarthy and mcconnell, than anything related to donald trump himself. >> you talk to these guys on the hill. they're giving all sorts of reason why what happened happened, let me actually, well, i won't play it again. mitch mcconnell said well, you know, people didn't like the vibe. the only reason that donald trump lived to fight another day after he was impeached twice, mitch mcconnell lobbied to keep him in place, to prevent him from being thrown out on his ear, which he could have been. he's still a political figure that matters because the republican party wanted him to keep matters. it's hard to hear him say it. does anyone mention abortion when you ask them what the reasons were. it seems like that's a big reason.

>> one senator did, mitt romney who i asked a couple of days ago, earlier this week. abortion was a much bigger issue than republicans anticipated in the 2022 election, and he's right, our exit polls show that abortion was the second most important issue to voters, just a few points behind inflation, and those voters supported democrats by a margin of 76% to 23% which is quite extraordinary. not a single republican has said it is didn't worth it. what's the point of power if you're not going to use it. beyond that, there's an enormous amount of chaos, and finger pointing within the party about what went wrong simply because people don't agree, republicans don't agree about what went wrong. the horror of this fight is between rick scott and mitch mcconnell. scott challenged mcconnell, lost by a big margin. they didn't go enough to inspire their base, conservative voters with a sufficiently aggressive vision, and that's why they lost. mcconnell's view as you played there, that's nonsense. mcconnell's view is they lost moderates, independents, by

being the party of chaos. they frightened voters in the middle, that's strong range from mitch mcconnell, but even mcconnell didn't blame trump. some other republican senators did hint at that, they made clear that the former president's talk about election denial, his refusal to accept his own defeat in the election overshadowed the republican message, and there's plenty of data that shows that as well. >> it brings me back to my original point. the thing that has inspired republican voters, and you're a republican politician for a time when you were still in the party, the thing that motivated republican base voters for decades since i was in high school is abortion. it used to be that when you did a poll and somebody said abortion is important to me, 72% of the them were antihch abortion, and they would actually vote for people they didn't even like that much because they thought they could get roe overturned. here's mitch mcconnell bragging in 2019 about getting these

judges on. here's mitch mcconnell. >> i was shocked that former president obama left so many vacancies and didn't try to fill those positions. >> i'll tell you why. i'll tell you why, i was in charge of what we did the last two years of the obama administration. >> and i will give you full credit for that, and by the way, take a bow. all right, that was a good line. >> and here are the justices, two of the ones that donald trump signed off on, joking about taking away women's rights. >> it's really nice to be -- >> i had the honor this term of writing i think the only supreme court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders who felt perfectly fine commenting on american law. one of these was former prime

minister boris johnson. but he paid the price. >> david jolly, as i talked to even religious voters, particularly women, but even men in this cycle, you know what scared them in the suburbs, what freaked them out and what made them say i'm going to vote for every single democrat on this ticket, that. the contempt of the supreme court to rip away half the population's rights over their own bodies, joke about it, and think that it was fine, and then also threaten to pass a national abortion ban which lindsey graham said he was going to do. the extremism on the abortion position in which women who had ectopic pregnancies were having to flee the states they were in, how do republicans not see that that cost them the midterms because it is what cost them the midterms. >> yeah, joy, you're exactly right. the antiabortion plank within the republican party has been part and parcel to the party since it captured the

evangelical movement in the 80s. it delivered an attempt by republicans to grow a partnership with the evangelical movement. it was easy to be absolutists when there was never the opportunity to achieve that. they never had to test that politically. it was enough to keep their base. what happened coming out of dobbs is, to your exact point, i think even within the evangelical movement, there were people, there are people today who may never identify themselves as pro choice for whatever reason, it's anathema to how they identify but realized they were pro roe all along, and republicans missed that politically and it's become a disaster for them, and i don't think they can get themselves out of this, even going into 2024. >> even in kentucky, mitch mcconnell's own home state, a measure to protect abortion rights in kentucky passed. >> republicans are the dog that caught the car on on the issue of abortion rights. they had a really good thing

going just from a political standpoint where they could stir up their base, rally republicans and conservative voters, every election on the promise of banning or outlawing abortion without the threat of doing it. roe was seen as safe, protected and secure. they didn't wake up or mobilize the majority of the country that supports roe v. wade until that supreme court that they built ended up overturning it. now they're in that space where they can actually deliver on the promise they have been campaigning on, and it turned out to be a much more complicated thing. >> the one thing they weren't running ads on is we got rid of roe. >> they were trying to neutraltize it. >> i want to ask you about another thing. we'll share what we talked about in the break a little bit. they're saying there is this thing where politicians make a decision, with something as you said earlier is so important you're willing to take a risk on it. abortion was that for republicans. they'll do anything to get rid of it, and for democrats, it was obamacare. they were like we're going to lose this midterm. we're going to get wiped out, we're going to do it anyway. they ran on it.

that's the difference. there's now another issue here, the idea of the respect for marriage act, codifying same-sex marriage. surprisingly enough, there appear to be 12 republicans who are willing to do it. a lot of them are retiring. we'll put it on the screen. a lot of them are leaving office. what's the word on the hill why republicans are willing to do this. there is an anti-this idea that they have. >> it got 50 democrats, 12 republicans, it's on a glide path to passage. the respect for marriage act is likely to end up on president biden's desk and becoming law by the end of the year. why did they do it, the simple reason is they see the politics. this issue, unlike the issue of abortion which has been kind of flat, there has been a majority of the country that has supported it for a long time. the dial has moved much. the support for same-sex marriage has shot up and skyrocketed. they see it's moving in one direction. many republicans who voted no, i can guarantee you secretly were happy they wanted it to pass. >> they just don't want to vote

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the 2022 midterms were a huge success for progressive democrats.

of the 18 candidates the progressive caucus endorsed, 16 have won their race so far, including the first gen z congress member max well frost, and jasmine crockett in texas, and summer lee, the first black woman elected to the house from pennsylvania. making this upcoming democratic caucus the most progressive that we have seen in decades. oh, okay. but there's one caveat. republicans have officially taken control of the house. nbc news projects that they have reached that 218 seat threshold with a couple of races still uncalled. even if it comes down to a majority of just one republican, it does still give people like kevin mccarthy and marjorie green leverage over investigations and funding the government over the next two years. what can this new larger group of progressives accomplish. joining me now is congresswoman pramila jayapal of washington, the chair of the house progressive caucus. we have an adorable picture. i'm going to show it to you.

this is maxwell frost's selfie that he took. there you guys are, looking great. you look very happy. now that you know you're looking at a kevin mccarthy speakership, are you less happy? >> well, of course. i mean there's no question we would have been happiest if we could have held the house, and done the rest of the agenda, which clearly the country responded to. if you look at the election result, and promise things, and put together a diverse coalition, and deliver on things like climate change and student debt, and people get excited and they want to come out for you. if you say we're going to codify abortion rights and voting rights. there's a lot of agenda we still have to get done, but i will tell you that the power of the populous progressive movement across the country is clear. it's clear with these candidates who are not just candidates that won in deep blue districts. they are candidates who won in very competitive front line

districts, like in pennsylvania, in oregon. we got two progressives elected in front line districts in oregon. and it matches the populist ballot initiatives that won across the country. legalizing marijuana, raising the anymore wage, capping interest rates on medical debt. these are all things, expanding medicaid, in a state like south dakota. >> absolutely. >> these are the things that won, and i think the lesson for us here is we might have to be an opposition party in the house with republican leadership, last line of defense, but we also have to be a proposition party. we have to show people what we stand for, give people hope that if we get into office, we will do what we did again in this last term, pass more stuff that lifts working people, poor people, people of color up. >> here's the thing, i know student debt relief, i'll take that are for a moment. a lot of people, they can't buy a house. it's a big deal. the fear now is that the

vengeful other side, their goal will be to take away those things, to show repeal that legislation, to go after that. they're very much against it. they filed lawsuits about it. is there enough of a democratic threshold and enough of a crossover normal republican threshold to hang on to the gains. >> the line of the defense is going to be in the senate and the white house, so, i mean, we may not be able to hold all the wins in the house, and in fact, what we might get in the house, i hate this, but what we might get is a really sharp contrast. republicans trying to strip social security and medicare, right. >> isn't it weird that they think that's a winning idea that they're going to make old people poor? >> why do they think that, you know, stripping abortion rights is popular. have they seen the polling across the country. >> or fair. >> i don't know that this is all going to be logical, and they're going to have a very slim margin in the house, which means that somebody tried to compare the freedom caucus and the progressive caucus, and i said, oh, i'm sorry, they're totally different.

the progressive caucus is a caucus of yes, we know how to govern. we know how to push. we'll push, but we know how to govern, we know how to land the plane. we know how to get stuff done. we have real values that drive us. the freedom caucus is a caucus of no. they don't know how to govern, i don't know what they stand for, and they want to blow things up. that's the fight you're going to see between the marjorie taylor greenes and more moderate members who might have won in blue district, they're going to have to run in two years, do they want to be the party of donald trump and continue to do that or work with us to get things done. >> i think they stand for impeaching hunter biden even though he's not president. let's talk about the lame duck, i have to do nerdy stuff. the lame duck becomes important, because it is the last chance, the current caucus is in place until the new congress comes in in january, so there's a possibility that you can get some priorities done. what would be at the top of the

list? we know there's an issue with daca and there might be an opening in the senate to do something on daca. voting rights would be great because obviously clearly we need some work on that, and police reform was still left on the table. what do you think could in theory get done in the lame duck? >> immigration, daca, and modernization, those two populations are bipartisan. they both got bipartisan votes. so the hope is that we can get to something that we can pass in this lame duck session with the senate and the house. we also do need to make sure to take some tools that they're going to use to hold us hostage off the table. that's the debt ceiling. >> that's huge. >> we've got to take the debt ceiling off the table so they don't strip abortion rights and reproductive health care from us. they have stripped abortion rightings but reproductive health care. we have to pass appropriation bills. >> let me give speaker pelosi her flowers.

history will look at her as the greatest speaker. there isn't anyone more accomplished. people can say whatever they want about it. this lady gets the job done. >> she does. >> the question that i think kind of hangs over is she has done so much, does she drop the mic, and does she say, you know what, i have done so much between passing obamacare, all of the things biden has gotten through. we talked about the infrastructure bill. she got that through. do you expect her to remain, and obviously you're dealing with her husband and the horrors that happened to him. god bless him, do you think she stays? >> i don't know, and i think she can probably do whatever she wants. you know, she is a phenomenal speaker. >> she can do it and do in heels, by the way. >> she can. i've traveled with her, i've had the honor of going on delegations overseas. she's incredible. i think there's a hunger across the caucus to bring more people in and things like that. if she wants to be speaker, minority leader is what it will

be, now that we're in the minority. i'm still trying to get used to that, joy. i think she'll probably be able to do that. so let's see what happens. they do not have an accomplished speaker the way we had speaker pelosi. they have kevin mccarthy who's not going to be able to bring that caucus in my view together. instead of dems in disarray, this is republicans in ruin, right, they are going to be fighting with each other. >> i think no matter what you think about all of these folks, it's very clear they're replacing excellence with mediocrity. >> on every level, including across the house caucus. >> a lot of women who work in the workplace. >> that's right. >> so this is getting replaced with somebody lesser. it is what it is. congresswoman, pramila jayapal, thank you very much. florida man makes announcement, does the "new york post" burying the low energy speech, signal a radical shift

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the "new york post" buried news at the bottom of its front cover. florida man makes announcement, see page 26. the florida man in question is the state's infamous retiree, the twice impeached disgraced

former president, donald trump, also the subject of multiple criminal and civil investigations. trump announced his third bid for the presidency in an hour long low energy speech from his mar-a-lago resort. you did not see his speech live on this network last night, although others did carry some of it live before cutting away. joining me is jay rosen, associate professor of the journal at new york university and ben collins nbc senior reporter. thank you for being here. give us a grade on the way the media so far, it's only one day in is handling it. these are the way some of the headlines read, the print headlines and some of the online headlines, trump who was president fomented at insurrections as he was running, trump who tried to overturn an legitimate election, trump ignoring the midterms verdict on him announces, and unbowed by midterm fiasco, trump vies for president again. do you think the media is learning its lesson?

>> i think there certainly was some learning there. they described his achievements as almost entirely negative achievements. they contained within their descriptions the warnings that i think have to be part of covering donald trump. there wasn't a lot of live coverage of his speech. there was fact checking after the fact. so, yeah, i think we can see signs of learning. after all, he hasn't really changed his game in five years, so you would think that there would be some learning as well. and i think we did see some of that, yes. >> not everyone is learning, ben. we saw sort of the opposite happen on facebook. we know part of the disinformation vortex that trump created was on social media. a lot of it was on social media. and facebook apparently has now decided they're not going to fact check him anymore. that sounds to me like they're going in the opposite direction. >> yeah, i mean, look, he's

still on the platform so that's, you know, it's a different situation than it was several years ago but i do want to say like the far right media has sort of taken all of trump's enemies and transposed them on to ron desantis. it's a different leader of the party. all of their guys are the same thing. for example, on breitbart, right now you'll see mitch mcconnell with two snowflakes on either side of his name, and also see a poll that shows, an internal poll that shows ron desantis is up 18 in a hypothetical primary. nobody's really picking sides outside of the murdoch universe. the enemies and the talking points and the policies of donald trump remain in place. they just want a different figure head for trumpism. >> and so what you're saying is you think in the social media scythe geist around magnatism. >> i think they're open to a new guy under the banner of

trumpism. there are obviously trump die hards who specifically like the person, the meanness, the cruelty is big for them. they really like owning the libs. that's a big part of it, and there's nobody better in the world in their eyes than donald trump. but they are, you know, the door is open. i don't say this lightly. the door is not really ajar with these people very frequently. they are funneled into the idea of donald trump generally. but now i think they're looking around and being like, is this a winning proposition, if we have to win elections, this might require somebody else. >> it's not that much of a shift. the thing that those who are in florida covering the 2018 election remember about donald trump is different about the way the media often -- i mean, about ron desantis is different than the media describes ron desantis as if he's a moderate pivot. here's ron desantis in 2018, and his opponent andrew gillum responding to him. >> the last thing we need to do

is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state. that is not going to work. that's not going to be good for florida. >> my grandmother used to say a hit dog will holler, and it hollered through this room. mr. desantis has spoken. first of all, he's got neo-nazis helping him out in the state. he's spoken at racist conferences, accepted a contribution, and would not refer to it as someone who referred to the former president out of the united states as a muslim. >> and there were neo-nazis, again marching with desantis signs in florida. are we at risk of the media repeating the exact same sort of, you know, sort of favorable gauzy coverage of desantis that they did with trump?

>> i think there's a fascination with a new politician who seems to have his fingers on the pulse of his constituency. and we're at risk of going through the savvy analysis of the effectiveness of the florida governor and deconstructing how clever and how counter intuitive his appeal has been. i think there's a fascination with any successful politician that kind of puts journalists it in the role of theater critics or appreciators of professional techniques. i think that's where we're going to be with desantis without some sort of intervention which is not in the cards. >> you could say the same thing as youngkin, the same coverage as a moderate when his primary policy is banning books by black

people. i mean, the challenge i have is the way we're analyzing these folks and i don't know if they appear this way online to their fans, but they are projecting the idea, same white nationalism trump does and that's why people who like trump like them? >> yeah, with youngkin, it was crt nonstop. it was constant, this drum beat of, you know, something -- somebody must do something about the critical race theory in our schools when people were probably angry about the fact that schools weren't open and the gop took the wrong message from that very specific thing. youngkin and desantis, too, they're sort of blank slates. they don't have this big, constant, you know, social media post after social media post thing that trump is doing where you know everything that's inside of that guy's head. he's a pain about everything. people are allowed to project on to desantis and youngkin what they want to project. early on for the trump people, very pro trump people on the internet, youngkin did not

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today marks two months since the death of mahsa amini, a 22-year-old iranian woman who died in police custody after breaking strict dress code. and quickly evolved into calls to overthroe the theocracy. security forces have clamped down on protesters. accusing the forces of using live ammunition, and beating people with batons. today was the second day of a three day general strike called by protesters, which left many businesses shuttered. i the court has issued the first death sentence for an antigovernment protester saying the death sentences are preliminary and could be appealed. a second branch sentenced another five protesters to up to ten years in prison for violating national security.

and disrupting public order. nbc news has not independently confirmed their claims, and the number of sentences handed down remains unclear because the true numbers have not been widely publicized. a pro activist human rights agency estimates 15,000 iranians have been arrested and many killed. justin trudeau accused iran of imposing death sentences on all 15,000. joining me now founder of beba har. her uncle was iran's first elected president, and iranian american actor and activist, thank you both for being here. i want to start at the desk with you nazanine. we were talking in the break about how hard it is for americans to conceptualize what

it means for young people to march and be shot in the progress of protesting, the process of protesting. >> this is something they have employed. murdering its own citizens with impunity. two years ago we were out supporting black lives matter. we were in the streets for human rights, protesting against police brutality and racism, being shot and nobody doing anything about it. having parents, forced to go on television and lie about how their children died, and many parents are fighting back and refusing to do that, and telling the truth, which is the islamic regime is killing our youth. >> why do you suppose it's been sustained you said earlier it's longer than the green revolution which is a significant protest. >> it's sustained. we have shop owners joining in. it's people in all provinces of iran that are joining in so it's a unified effort, and people are fed up.

they have nothing else to lose at this point. they want their freedom. they want an end to this theocracy. >> we have one of the country's most recognizable sports figures. he will not travel to qatar in solidarity with those protesting in antigovernment protests. iranian celebrities, top iranian actress, posed without her head scarf, which is a big big deal on instagram. it's a big deal. bahari, your uncle was the last elected president in iran. there is this temptation in the u.s. to think of iran as always the way it is now, and to not understand that this was a country with a democratic system, no different than what we're used to here. and that it was destroyed. in no small part due to actions by this country here, the united states, in overthrowing that government. but talk about the possibilities of iran because it could be so

different. >> yes, joy, thank you for having me, and allowing us to amplify our voices and what's going on. yes, you're absolutely right. iran could be such a different country. the people of iran are some of the most educated, some of the most accomplished individuals in the world, even with what they're facing, you know, we have 60% of the education system in iran is women. 70% of which is s.t.e.m. the only medal that was ever given to a woman in mathematics, which is the highest level medal you can get in mathematics how far they can soar if they can just as much freedom as half of men have, is what they are being allowed right now, the life of a woman's worth that of half of a man. and they have accomplished so much. imagine if they were equal?

and what we need in that country's separation of church and state. you can't have clergy running the country. they are weaponizing religion as a form of control. we need to have a system of checks and balances and have politicians running a country, not clergymen. >> we are facing some of that vibe here in our country as well. as you well now know, that religious people feeling entitled to tell everyone else how to live and what to do. i will ask you both this question. i will start with you, bahareh banisadr. do you think the outside pressure impacts the racine regime in iran, will it change their behavior, in your view? >> i do think global pressure is necessary and it does make an impact initial solidarity with the people of iran and gives them the motivation to continue to go. for many years, with all of the protests an uprising, the iranian people have felt like the west has not paid attention. there hasn't been a global outcry.

some people might think well, that's just what goes on there, et cetera. now they feel the people of the world are behind us and we will continue to go until we fight for freedom. it is very important that our elected officials take actions to the un, kicking the i.r.a. of the council for the status of women. it has no business being on there. i do think it's important and imperative. >> give us a word on what you would love to see us to. we want to take action. we want to support the women of iran. miss bahareh banisadr, what would you want us to do? >> we need to put sanctions on the individuals. the country has sanctions but that is the suffering of the people. the individuals that are in power need to have personal sanctions. because whether we know whether or not their money is in america, their kids are in america. if they start to feel the pressure as individuals, they will start to back down. and that is the first thing that america needs to do. secondly, the world government as a whole needs to start backing the people. the people are fighting with their bodies, they have no weapons, they have nothing but their life to give. if the un and the world would

put pressure on the government, they would have eddiceton point nothing else and they would need to back down. >> do you think that the rollback sanctions at this point is helpful or harmful? because it does seem there is a desire to normalize iran on the world stage. >> it needs to be strategic. at a certain level when it comes to allowing for technology sanctions to be lifted so that third parties can come in and give tech and give away for the people to communicate when the government is shutting down their internet. it needs to be straightest strategic in the way that it is given so it helps the people, not harming the people. and yet the regime is still blocking up money through oil, regardless of the sanctions, because they're in partnership with china and some other countries. it needs to be strategic sanction. >> thank god for social media, at least right now. nazanin nour and bahareh

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the blast that killed two people in poland tuesday was not a russian attack, as some had feared, but most likely an accident caused by ukraine's defense system responding to russian missile barrage. russia strikes yesterday in what officials described as the largest missile strike so far in the entire war, sparked widespread blackouts throughout the country. well it likely wasn't a russian missile that hit poland, u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin stressed that russia must ultimately bears responsibility

for provoking this war. nbc's molly hunter has the latest from the ukraine poland border. >> tonight ukrainian president zelenskyy is not backing down. last night is the news was breaking you took to twitter before there was any investigation into the strike as the international community was talking about it at a fever pitch. he took to twitter and said that russian missiles struck poland, that russian missiles struck a nato ally. now this morning, starting very early in the morning here at local time, the polish president and nato secretary general later this afternoon the secretary of defense lloyd austin all shared their findings that they are in a game agreement that the preliminary information, the preliminary investigation on the ground suggests that it was ukrainian rocket. the prime minister even put a name to, or that it was like the ukrainian rocket from an s-300, a defense system that was built in the former ussr. so all of this information is coming out from ukraine's

allies, from leaders that were very clear to say they supported ukraine, and support to ukraine's right to defense. and no one was blaming ukraine and yet tonight we saw president zelenskyy speaking to ukrainian television anchors on his telephone saying that it definitely wasn't ukrainian missile, definitely wasn't a ukrainian missile strike, their requested access to the strike, they want to be heard of the investigation and he implored the international community to hold off on conclusions before the investigation is complete. that's pretty hard to square this hour, with the overwhelming case that zelenskyy's allies are making. >> thank you very much. and that is tonight's read out. s tonight's read out >> tonight on all in. >> i honestly believe that will have better choices come 2024. i don't think anybody -- >> better choices than donald trump?