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already, right? i'm yasmin vossoughian live for you at msnbc headquarters in new york city. we're following a very big day and one very big question in washington, d.c., this morning on capitol hill. what is next for house speaker nancy pelosi? pelosi wearing a white suit arrived at the capitol earlier this morning. you see it there. not taking any questions. but certainly aware of this swirl of speculation about her next steps for the first woman to hold the speaker's gavel. she will, in fact, deliver a speech on the house floor at approximately 12:10 p.m. eastern time. that is according to her spokesman. the house is set to convene at noon. this moment is coming weeks after her husband was attacked in their san francisco home by a hammer-wielding intruder, an intruder who announced where is nancy? and our projections show the

republicans will flip the house. they're waiting in the wings and plotting a litany of investigations on everything from the afghanistan withdrawal to hunter biden. just this morning, congressman jim jordan expected to be the next chair of the judiciary committee joined by congressman jim comber and signaled they intend to spend a lot of time looking into the president's son. >> so this is the focus on the judiciary committee, the political nature at the justice department and the linkage now to what was happening with the hunter biden story, again, just 15 days before we have a presidential election. >> no matter wha the speaker decides, what is certain today, we're facing down two years of divided government and house democrats may have to face them without the woman who has been a critical player in some of the most significant legislative achievements in the last 15 years. starting us off, ali vitali,

phil rucker, doug heye, republican strategist and cornell belcher, a democratic pollster and an msnbc political analyst. welcome to you all, guys. thanks for joining us on this. we're waiting with abated breath for that 12:10 speech the speaker is going to make there inside the capitol. give us your reporting. >> we should have a countdown clock because now we know about 68 or so minutes from now, we will hear from speaker pelosi on the floor when it opens around 12:10, her spokesperson saying she's going to give an address to her colleagues and the question here is what that announcement is actually going to be. i have people openly in my text messages taking bets, will she stay in leadership, it's the will she or won't she certainly for the last 24 hours as it felt like this decision was coming to a head. but this is a game that's been

played here on capitol hill over the course of the last few months. percolating in the background to all of this is the reality that democrats are pretty happy with how they did in the midterms. certainly they're not happy to be in the minority, but they were prepared in many cases for a shellacking because that's what the history said that they might have been in for. pelosi, though, one of the rare voices who continuously throughout this process said that she thought her party was going to do well in the midterms. she was optimistic for the potential for them to hold control of the chamber. last night now that the house has been called for republicans, all eyes really turn to what was next for her. democratic lawmakers and leadership aides just said they feel like they're waiting for white smoke from the vatican. this is a building that heave a collective exhale what they know what the results of this decision is around 12:10. look, this is one of the rare moments where everyone is asking the same question and only one

person has the answer. and that's speaker nancy pelosi. >> cornell, let's talk a little bit about speaker pelosi's significance here. she made history by becoming speaker of the house. she is a legislative giant and genius and nobody can argue with that. but you also have to talk about the significance within the republican party, january 6th, calling for her life, the attack on her husband as well. she has been the ire of the republican party for quite some time, especially during the trump years. talk us through the significance of speaker pelosi both on the democratic side but also within the republican party. >> well, listen, she is -- like you said, she's a giant. we will never see the likes of her kind again. people who are focused on legislating. from your intro it shows very much that -- the other side is

not focused on legislating but investigating. she is behind some of the most instrumental transformative pieces of legislation over the last, you know, decade, decade and a half. look, you know, i worked for barack obama. barack obama was brilliant. let's be clear. in his significant piece of legislation was the affordable care act. let's be clear, that act does not happen without nancy pelosi. and you can go back and look at every piece of significant legislation that's happened and over the last several years and it has her fingerprints on it. she's been able to do it. you think the republican house caucus is tough? >> yeah. >> the democratic house caucus is like herding cats because there's so many different opinions there. she's been able to hold them all together at really important

times and pushed through legislation, sometimes with very small majorities. she had a very small majority this time around. and we've got the -- we've got the inflation reduction act. we've got bipartisan infrastructure bill that will -- that we will be seeing rolled out and helping this country for the next decade. all because of -- all because of her leadership. i don't know what she's going to do next. but the country owes her a great deal of debt. she has served her country well. >> ali, we're going to get that answer hopefully at 12:10 when she speaks on the house floor. but looking ahead to republican-control of the house. i just played that sound from jim jordan. i know that you have reporting on the dccc's defensive strategy here. what do you have? >> we exclusively reported this morning that the d trip is out with a new memo talking about their strategy and what worked.

the fact that they were able to lose a handful of seats and the majority is as close as it is, democrats are celebrating the fact that republicans are going to have to do an even tighter balancing act than pelosi and democrats have had to do over the course of the last two years in congress. but kevin mccarthy has a real challenge on his hands as he tries to herd cats within his own conference on a wide array of issues. but realready see where their focus is. the fact that they're already holding press conferences around the investigations that they plan to go into, including things like hunter biden's laptop and the other things we've heard republicans talking about for so long. the reality is, with the gavel comes things like subpoena power, control of these key committees, the biden administration is primed for this. they knew that more oversight was likely what they were in for and we're beginning to already see the seeds of that. i would say, here's the one thing that i think i'm sort of preparing for as we look at the pelosi of it all in tandem with what this means in a

republican-controlled house. the idea that pelosi's team has signaled that she could stay in congress and leave leadership, and that would mean that she's still physically here as an emeritus role if she were to lead her post and be able to guide people in the next generation, hakeem jeffries, he could ascend to the top of the democratic caucus in the house. these are people who have worked in pelosi's orbit for many years now. they've seen the way she operates, the way she uses her favorite word leverage to bend power and bend key players to what she needs them to do at that time. she is masterful at this. masterful at understanding the pulse of her caucus, the pulse of her whip count. all of these key things that make her a force here. there's a chance while democrats lose her as number one, if she decides to step aside, they're not necessarily losing her as a voice in this caucus. >> we're looking to that 12:10 speech to see where things go

from here. and we'll bring you that live as well. doug, talk to me about the republican strategy here. they campaigned on the economy and it was crime. we're going to be talking about layoffs that are impending and happening right now especially in the tech industry, and then you hear from jim jordan talking about these investigations they want to launch, whether it be into hunter biden or the withdrawal from afghanistan. is there a risk for the republican party that they're going to overplay their hand? >> first, it's a point of tech clarification. john boehner was the one who was referring to herding cats when he was speaker and when i worked in the house of representatives now. it was tough then. it's tougher now. investigations are something that republican members were talking about doing all the time. they weren't necessarily spending a lot of money on tv -- they were talking about it on

local radio, talk radio. when they would do interviews, there's always a risk of going too far. i try to counsel republicans against doing that. there's a lot that's there on hunter biden. if they stay away from more of the salacious stuff, they can get to the bottom of things that have been ignored for too long. we always have this -- we always have this come up during turnover. essentially a party in power don't investigate themselves. this is partially natural. when nancy pelosi retook the house back over, investigating the trump administration was a big concern. i don't think that surprised anybody. >> phil rucker, let's talk about kevin mccarthy if we can and his vying to become speaker of the house now. he does not have the necessary 218 votes to become speaker. and we're hearing about a lot of concessions he's being asked to

make, reinstating the motion to vacant, requires bills to go through a committee, allows amendments and bills on the floor and more time to read bills as well. what do you think the likelihood is of him making these concessions to get the vote that is he needs, or can he get them without it? >> i think it's quite likely that he'll make at least some concessions to get those 218 votes to become speaker. we've seen over the years that kevin mccarthy has been very flexible in his politics and has made a number of concessions to maintain his power atop the republican conference on the hill and to maintain his relationship not only with former president donald trump, but with the sort of maga following movement within the party. he's been very flexible on his politics and really leaning towards power over principle at times. i expect he'll cut whatever deals he needs to cut behind the scenes in order to assuage his republican members and be their

leader. one thing working in his favor is there does not appear to be a consensus choice yet for who might take him on. he can't be denied the speakership if there's not someone else to elect as the speaker. and he's stayed close with the people who could be his biggest rivals in that space. first and foremost, jim jordan, who is in line for an important leadership position in the new majority. >> i found this interesting when kevin mccarthy asked if he was going to support former president donald trump. i want to see what you make of his response. >> are you prepared to endorse president trump? >> why? >> no, are you prepared to endorse him? >> you guys are crazy. >> you guys are crazy.

doug? >> he's right. they are crazy. look, donald trump just announced, what, 24 hours earlier, let kevin mccarthy do the job -- >> what do you mean -- donald trump just announced he's running for president in 2024 and the next speaker of the house isn't going to tell us whether or not he's going to endorse the next possible nominee for president. >> as we've seen and ali knows this better than i, any time donald trump says anything, every republican gets a microphone put in their face. give him a break. there hasn't been a broad swath of endorsements -- >> but mccarthy -- doug, doug, doug, mccarthy has been in trump's corner for a really long time. and trump is obviously in mccarthy's corner of being speaker of the house. are you going to endorse the former president donald trump for president of the united states in 2024? you can't say "yes" or "no"?

>> i think the immediate question that every republican gets whenever donald trump says something is likely unreasonable. look, it just happened. it's 24 hours. let's give the guy a break. he has a job to do. let him try and do his job. everybody doesn't have to make a decision on donald trump within 24 hours. >> ali vitali? >> reporter: with a lot of respect to doug who understands this building well, this is a conference here on the republican side that has reoriented itself in the trump era around the former president. kevin mccarthy completely did a 180 in the days and weeks after january 6th around it being a day that trump needed to have accountability for, all the way to going down to mar-a-lago and doing that handshake photo with him and reorienting the rest of the conference around trump. in defense of my colleagues who are asking those great questions, but the fact that he is someone who has been a consistent trump ali and a large part of the reason that the conference he's now going to be

the leader of looks the way it does, has the priorities that it does, legislatively, is fighting a lot of the culture wars and base wars that trump has long fought on the campaign trail, all of that is because kevin mccarthy has chosen proximity to donald trump. just because mccarthy doesn't want to talk about, doesn't mean he's not going to deal with the trump ramifications every single day. >> that's true. 100% right -- >> doug, doug, i would love to give you more time to weigh in on this but we have a really busy hour, ahead, of course, as we're waiting for nancy pelosi's speech on the house floor. really great conversation. appreciate it. ali vitali, phil rucker, doug heye, cornell belcher. thank you, all. now that the republicans have been projected to retake control and the major questions surrounding speaker pelosi's

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the missile that crossed into poland tuesday accidentally or otherwise. the u.s. and others are standing by the assessment that it was a defensive measure launched by ukraine deeming it an unfortunate accident. president biden had this to say earlier this morning. >> what's your recollection to president zelenskyy saying the missiles that landed in poland were not ukrainian? >> that's not the evidence. >> so though the u.s./nato both agree russia is to blame for the incident overall, as russian forces continue launching a barrage of missiles strikes. joining us right now is molly hunter, and former adviser to ukrainian president zelenskyy, igor novikov. >> molly, let me start with you. talk to us about where we stand with this difference between what we're hearing from the ukrainian president along with

president biden as well and what intelligence is telling us there on the ground and really what is happening with the barrage of missiles continuing from russia. >> yeah, yasmin, look, i think big picture, you hear the american officials whether it's secretary of state or president biden making this point, the kremlin bears responsibility for what happened on tuesday. the kremlin bears responsibility for knocking out 50% of the power in the capital of kyiv. 10 million households, that's not people, that's households, are without power because of russia's targeting of critical infrastructure knocking out power for customers and people who live from the east to the west of the country. as far as that rift, look, we are reading these statements were, very closely and you can imagine the ukrainian government is really parsing their words at this point. it's becoming a little bit awkward. what we are noticing is there appears to be a little bit of a climb down two days later. the incident happened tuesday

evening local time and president zelenskyy came out quickly and said it was russia's missile. by today, he has said, actually, we would like to be involved in a joint investigation, the pols have said yes, but he's no loaninger repeating that claim that was not our missile, it was not our missile strike as of today, yasmin. >> igor, tell me where you think president zelenskyy's thinking the right now when it comes to this missile, why it is he is insisting it was not a ukrainian missile despite hearing western allies say overall this is russia's fault because of their continued war inside of ukraine. however, the missile did not originate from russia? >> you have to understand that both presidents, president zelenskyy and president biden, said what's being said to them by their military advisers. it's a smart move especially for the president to believe what he's being told by his own military advisers.

in fact, i remember only one president in recent history where a president of a major country said he believes the russians more than his own intelligence. president zelenskyy is being told by his military advisers that the rocket did not originate in ukraine. he repeated that statement and to be fair, we don't know to this point. the investigation is ongoing. when the evidence becomes public, we're going to know the truth and regardless of what the ground truth is, like, no one, russia is to blame. i woke up this morning to missiles flying over my bedroom. i saw it out of the windows. it doesn't matter what happened there, russia benefits from any quarrels between allies. and that just needs to stop. >> and the united states and ukraine are both on board with that, ie, russia is to blame even if not for the origin of this missile. lieutenant general, talk me through what this investigation

is going to look like, how quickly it will transpire. >> here's what we do know, number one, the investigation is going to be led by the polish. there's going to be a u.s. contingent that's going to join. i do not know yet at this time where the ukrainians will be able to join. i know they've asked to do so. and what you will have is, we already know that the fragments that were found on the ground were from the s-300 air defense system. that is a russian-made system. the russians have it as well as the ukrainians have it. that's why we're in this chaotic situation right now. they will be able to determine based on crater analysis, you see that big crater right now, what type of weapon system it actually was. they will be able to take the fragment and get the numbers off

of it to determine whether or not it was a ukrainian or russian fragment that came out of that system. from there, there will be -- it will be determined who actually fired the weapon system. >> there's the question of what happens now and what ukraine continues to need. you have experts saying the spillover of the war into poland and a nato member could spur kyiv's backers. is that what you see ukrainian fighters needing right now in this continued war? >> well, in terms of military hardware, we need the defensive weapons to liberate as much territory as we can before russia can regroup those new soldiers. there's another elephant in the room. the winter is coming and basically they're destroying their critical infrastructure. this will lead to a massive loss of life. the country of 30 million can't go through the winter like with negative temperatures and

negative degree celsius without electricity, without heat, without food, without logistics, connectivity. that's the area we need to focus on. by the way, in terms of for granting access to ukrainian investigators, they are already on the ground in poland. >> lieutenant general, last one to you, and that is putin's thinking here if you could for us. as we continue to see this barrage of missiles in kyiv, we know at this point the russian military is losing. they're losing. they're pulling out in eastern parts of ukraine. what is he doing? >> the intent of the russians is pretty clear, to terrorize the ukrainian citizens. they can't win on the ground. they've proven that time and time again that they failed. so this is his best right to try and break the moral of the ukrainian people by getting rid of power, getting rid of their way of life. and so i think you're going to continue to see this throughout

the winter months. try to get the ukrainians to capitulate or at least come to the negotiation table. >> i think we know by now, you cannot break the ukrainian people. molly hunter, thank you, lieutenant general, and igor novikov, thank you as well. coming up next, threats here at home and abroad. the warnings from our homeland security secretary and the fbi director as they testify there on capitol hill. and details about how far behind we may be encountering domestic extremism. we have our eyes on the house where nancy pelosi will speak in just over 30 minutes or so as questions are mounting about her political future. former democratic congressman max rose is here about how her choice and future gop control of the house will reshape the next two years. we'll be right back. s. we'll be right back. carmax is reimagining car buying for you. so you can buy online... or on the lot. then get it delivered right to your door. that's car buying reimagined.

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12:10 p.m. that is when house speaker nancy pelosi is going to deliver remarks to her colleagues on the house floor according to her spokesman. she's expected to discuss her future plans hours after republicans secured control of the chamber. joining me on set, max rose. so good to see you. >> great to see you too. >> what's she's going to say? what are you expecting? what's the word? >> we can't underestimate the absolute historic nature of this moment and i think that the smoker -- speaker is going to speak to that. the most impactful leader in the legislation. after her remarks, the question is going to be, what is her own future in the house? i can't see them staying for the duration of this term. this is just a little too weird -- >> why? >> well, because they have enormous staff right now. they have obvious very official

duties. and, you know, i understand that they want to -- they have a serious transition. it's too unprecedented for this to last the duration of the two years. it makes sense they'll want to make this transition responsible and slow and incremental. i don't see it lasting for the next few years. the larger question will turn to the presumptive minority leader hakeem jeffries and can they manage this diverse caucus and keep the attention on the republican party. the democratic party cannot return to where it was during the big build back better moments where they had all of this division and moments. they need to stay unified, keep the focus on kevin mccarthy and their divisions and failures. >> there was a headline in the "new york times," i believe, just a couple of days ago saying democrats in array?

wanting to give credit to the democratic party. and now you're seeing the republican party more in disarray more. when you look at, for instance, jim jordan, the sound that we played a little bit earlier and their intentions going forward now that they have house majority and that is investigation after investigation. not let's fix the economy, as they promised to do, not let's fix crime as they promised to do in their lead-up to the midterms. >> the american people don't want to see overreach, they don't want to see overinvestigation and overpoliticalization. and the republican party -- look, their base is far too rabid right now for them to do anything but that. so the key from the perspective of the house democratic party will be discipline, focusing on how much of the president's agenda can they push forward and how much can they focus on republican crazy, republican extremism. look, the democratic party is a beautiful diverse cultural

mosaic intellectually as well as otherwise, and it's going to take real leadership. the question will be in the absence of nancy pelosi, you know, at the helm, she could stay there or not, is can they stay unified. and i think with hakeem jeffries there, they absolutely can. 50% of the democratic caucus at this point was elected after 2018. 50%. this is an entirely different caucus that will be difficult to manage. >> let's get personal. i'm not going to ask you about your kid who is cute, by the way. incredibly cute. not the cutest because i have kids too. what is next for you? more races in the future? >> i really don't know right now. and i'm giving myself some time to think about that. but what i will say is that there's a ton of different ways that one can serve and service really matters to me. but the most important thing, i kid you not, i'm having a lot of fun dropping my son off at day

care, playing with him, and catching up with him. >> it is fun to drop them off, isn't it and wave good-bye? >> what breaks my heart, first he was crying when i dropped him off, that broke my heart. now he doesn't cry when i drop him off which also breaks my heart. we'll get through it. >> former congressman max rose, great to see you. >> thank you. right now, everybody, on capitol hill, homeland security secretary and director are testifying before the homeland security committee and they're talking about what they're doing about what they're doing about extremism here at home. the fbi, the department of homeland security and leading social media companies are not adequately addressing the growing threat of domestic terrorism, especially white supremacists and antigovernment extremists. ken dilanian is joining me now. ken, good to talk to you. what is this report really saying here about these agencies and these companies and what

they're failing to do? >> good to see you, yasmin. this report says the fbi and dhs are still focusing the bulk of their resources on the diminished threat of international terrorism and they haven't put enough money and effort and focus into this growing problem of domestic terrorism. this is all laid out in a 128-page report based on three years of research shepherded by gary peters of michigan. this is democrats criticizing a democratic administration. and the report says that neither dhs nor fbi has the data to present an accurate picture of the state of domestic terrorism in this country in part because there aren't consistent definitions across the government of what constitutes a domestic terrorism attack. the committee found that the fbi has been quicker to label an attack as terrorism when it was based on extremists ideology compared to an attack based on white supremacist ideology.

the report says that arrests were declining before the january 6th riots even as the threat was exploding. and the committee found that both the fbi and dhs were not doing everything they can under the law to monitor threats of violence made. as you mentioned, it took on the big four social media platforms and it says that those companies have a business model that incentivizes extremist content. >> ken dilanian, thank you. appreciate it. coming up next, what do tom brady, larry david, steph curry, what do they all have in common? they've been named in a crypto class action lawsuit. the largest job cuts in amazon's history just as the holidays are approaching. could it be a canary in the coal mine for our economy. we'll be right back. or our econy we'll be right back.

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welcome back. tom brady, steph curry, larry david, other stars have been named in a multibillion dollar class action lawsuit to do with ftx which they have all promoted. they allege that the company and former ceo violated the law and misled customers accusing the exchange of targeting unsophisticated investors from across the country. the suit says customers sustained $11 billion in damages. sam brock has more. >> reporter: a multibillion dollar class action lawsuit filed by one of the most people attorneys in america, david boies, filed right here in miami. one of the names you would expect to see on the lawsuit is sam bankman-fried, but also larry david to tom brady as the

company suddenly went bankrupt overnight. >> i'm never wrong about this stuff. never. >> reporter: a-list celebrity and is athletes facing a high-profile legal battle after serving as faces for a crypto company that just filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. the multibillion dollar class action lawsuit uses ftx's ceo and 11 celebrities of causing some $11 billion in investor losses. it alleges they took advantage of unsophisticated investors. >> reporter: tom brady, steph curry and kevin o'leary some of the well-known figures named in the suit. o'leary discussing the decision on cnbc. >> it's not the first time i've made a bad investment. probably not the last time.

>> reporter: nbc news has reached out to their legal teams and has not heard back. how much did the defendants know about the products they endorsed? >> it's a question whether they can claim they were duped as well. you have to look at each individual endorsement, how they endorsed. >> reporter: ftx poured millions into ads from social media -- >> but you're an expert, right? >> i'm not an expert and i don't need to be. >> reporter: to must-see television events like the super bowl. >> it's ftx, it's a safe and easy way to get into crypto. >> i don't think so. >> reporter: the platform's once massive $32 billion valuation seemingly vanishing overnight. >> now you're seeing in some cases some of these are crashes as there's more and more market instability that leads to more challenges and the questions of who is to blame. >> ftx, that's the crypto app, right? >> it's for all kinds of investing. it's better.

>> reporter: mr. bankman-fried is apologizing and he's promising clarity once he figures its out. sam brock, nbc news. >> thank you, sam, for that. amazon confirming it has begun what is expected to be the largest workforce cuts in the company's history. the ceo revealing that it has already laid off workers in its devices and hardware unit. it follows a report in the "new york times" earlier this week that amazon planned to cut 10,000 workers around the holidays. following meta, twitter, cisco as well. joining me now is ben white. good to talk to you as always. thanks for joining us on this. a million and a and a half, i believe, employees at amazon. the largest ever for this company. what should they be bracing for? >> good to be with you. i just want to quickly flip back

to ftx. it kills me that larry david was involved in that and got dinged by it. i just want to say that. in terms of amazon, a lot of tech companies slicing jobs. during the pandemic you and i stayed at home and ordered stuff from amazon and online and we've moved away from that. they need fewer people. but frankly, it's a much larger story than that. it's centered in tech right now partly because of the crypto fallout and the changes of the economy. but we're headed towards a slight recession. if you listen to corporate executives on earnings calls, they're preparing for layoffs if we go into recession next year, if the fed raises interest rates to the point where it slows the economy and consumer demand goes down and that's probably going to happen between now and the middle of next year. these companies are all ready to reduce costs and workforce. the hope is just, it doesn't spread terribly and the layoffs

aren't big. we could maybe get through this with modest layoffs and a modest increase in the unemployment rate. >> we're seeing major layoffs in the tech industry. it seems like it's the beginning of what is to come as you're talking about. where do you foresee layoffs happening next and what industry and talk to folks just quickly about why often these layoffs happen in this large-scale right before the holidays? >> yeah, the timing is really unfortunate around the holidays, obviously, people aren't happy about that. but in terms of amazon, they depend a lot on holiday retail sales. it's time to make cuts. more in tech, certainly, facebook, meta, maybe elon has done all he's going to do in twitter. he's slashed it in half. not necessarily there. but in the housing market. anything connected to housing, housing is collapsing now because of high interest rates, nobody can get a mortgage. you'll see a lot more layoffs in that space which extends beyond

just, you know, real estate, all the ancillary businesses that depend on home building. and then, you know, it will go to manufacturing and just about everywhere else as companies decide that they have too many workers or not enough demand. the good thing, yasmin, it gives me hope, there's a lot of cash. people are sitting on a lot of cash. there's a lot of savings for covid. companies are in pretty good shape. so we don't have to fall off a cliff. but you're going to see cuts across the board over the next two months. >> that's good news amidst all of it. thank you. appreciate it. it is november. so you know what that means, a winter wallop before actual winter. this is a look at erie, pennsylvania. more on the storm that could drop feet of snow from michigan to new york. plus a murder mystery in idaho. a small college town on edge

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so many questions on this. really is a mystery. such a tragedy in this small college town. what do we know? >> reporter: there's that detail in that case that we're now being told there were two other roommates that were home during that violent attack. they are still alive but they are not divulging any information about them. we now know that it was likely more than six hours between when police were called and when those murders took place. this morning, a new message from police in idaho after the gruesome murders of four students. >> we cannot say there's no threat to the community. as we have stated, please stay vigilant. >> reporter: that's after police say tuesday investigators believe it was an isolated, targeted attack and there is no threat to the community at large. they still believe they were

targeted. >> we believe it was a targeted attack on our victims. we do not have a suspect at this time. that individual is still out there. >> reporter: police searching for the murder weapon. >> the four were stabbed with a knife. no weapon has been located at this time. >> reporter: there were no signs of forced entry at the home where the bodies were found. now police revealing for the first time that two other roommates were home at the time of the attack but were not injured. >> there was other people home at that time. we are not just focusing on them. we are focusing on everybody that may be coming and going. >> reporter: they have not been identified. there are no details about what they might have seen or why it took so long to alert police. the victims were found sunday afternoon. investigators say they think the four were killed early in the morning after going out.

police are aware of this video that they say appears to show two of the victims ordering from a food truck saying it could help them establish a time line of events that night. the president of the university of idaho emotional. >> they were bright lights in our community and are deeply missed and remain in our thoughts and our prayers. >> if everybody was like ethan in this world, it would be a better place. >> reporter: the vehicle. >> tommy: -- victims' families struggling. >> i can't wrap my head around what thanksgiving or christmas looks like or my day to day looks like. >> reporter: there's no suspect in custody, no motive, no murder weapon. police are cautioning people to be aware of their surroundings. they are asking for help with any information that could help them find the killer and solve this case.

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