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on the ballot if you want. i think it's a simplest proposition going. everybody who wants to vote for donald trump is already going to be voting for herschel walker. it's those other people out there -- >> that's right. >> i don't think this race is gonna be a blowout but i don't think it's gonna be particularly close. who in the world -- herschel walker who doesn't want serge walk as a u.s. senator? >> when you think about, is any other u.s. senator and six years can ask him what i wonder what herschel? thinks georgia has had some great senators. i think this guy is going to lose, but you know the essence of what trump did was he was able to maximize light turnout, lower frequency white voters with a largely racist xenophobic appeal.
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we always thought that he would get the college educated voters. it didn't happen in 16 it did happen in 20. >> and it looks like, tara and stuart stevens thank you all. not that's all in for tonight. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening alex. good evening chris, i actually wonder what herschel thinks. his mind is a strange. thing >> i would love postelection to sit down with herschel walker depending on how this goes, but i'm fascinated by them. at >> a real sit down with her so walker would be an interesting thing. thank you as always my friend. thanks to all of you at home for joining us this hour. it was 20 years ago so maybe you have forgotten this moment but she made history in 2002. >> good morning, my colleagues just bestowed upon me the great honor to be the leader of the democrats in the house of representatives. they did so in and across the board overwhelming vote of
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support and i'm very, very honored. >> that was nancy pelosi after being chosen to be the first woman to lead one of america's first major political parties in congress. four years later, democrats won control of the house of representatives and nancy pelosi again made history as the first woman ever to be speaker of the house, second in line to the presidency. but it's not just the first ever designation, not just the trail blazing that sets the speaker apart from all the other ones. it is the record. nancy pelosi has been one of the most effective speakers in american history. and her cumulative eight years as speaker of the house, she was instrumental in the passage of obamacare, landmark legislation that brought health care to millions of americans. she navigated the passage of joe biden's agenda passing covid relief bill, the infrastructure bill and the biggest investment in combatting climate change in u.s. history. when you think of consequential u.s. political leaders, we often think of presidents, but
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pelosi as speaker of the house has in many ways been as consequential as the president himself. all of the landmark legislation from democratic presidents in the 21st century is in large part a result of the work of nancy pelosi. her ability to keep the caucus together and get things done. my ability to finish the script, turning to her to four years scripts stints as speaker, she only saw one bill defeated on the house floor. just one, and that one failed vote would've happened or not for republican infighting. in 2008, republicans failed to deliver their share of necessary votes to save the american final financial system from collapse, even as pelosi delivered her share. after some scrambling on the republican side, congress did eventually pass that bill. that is the only l on nancy pelosi's scoreboard. the only one. today pelosi announced that she would be stepping aside as leader of the democratic party
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in congress. she is likely to be succeeded by another historic first. democrats have begun to coalesce around new york congressman joaquin jeffries to be their next leader in the house. should congressman jeffrey succeed, he'd be the first ever african american to lead a major party in congress and he will have big shoes to fill. not only are their pelosi's legislative's a consummate as speaker, for the last four years pelosi's been at the helm of the movement to counter donald trump. to act as a chakras influence on the party and the authoritarianism he's injected into american politics. and this is not a person who took on this mantle reluctantly. she was all in. remember this photo from the meeting between white house and crashing a leaders during pete trump's first impeachment? the attic clap during his state of the union, or when she ripped up the ante, when she ripped up the copy of the trump state of the union speech. she was polite enough not to flush it down any government
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toilets afterwards. but these moments were just photo ops and clickbait although they were yes those things as well. they represented something deeper. there were symbols of a powerful rejection of donald trump and everything he stood for. and pelosi made them at considerable risk to everyone else and her family. >> nancy we're looking for you! >> nancy, oh nancy! nancy! where are you nancy? >> because of her publican unyielding opposition to president trump, pelosi was one of the chief targets of the violence versus that was stirred up by trump. last night, we got this footage of capital rioters ransacking pelosi's office on january six. footage was released as part as the government's case against riley williams, the white woman with supremacy ties, let a gang
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of white insurrectionists to pelosi's office, and engaging the theft of the speakers locked up. while those rioters were ransacking her office, the president was watching the events on tv, speaker pelosi was on the phone from a secure location working on a federal government's response to the violence while she herself was a target of that violence. last month a violent qanon extremist broke into pelosi's home, attacking her husband paul pelosi with a hammer. it was an attack that many republicans later set to trivialize, or assess on baseless conspiracy theories all in it attempt to diminish or forget about it. but the reality is that the violence directed against nancy pelosi and her family by the former president and his supporters will forever be how we remember the pelosi era. which is why it's all the more shocking that the new york times reported last night the one of the very first things republicans want to do when they control the house is investigate nancy pelosi for
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her treatment of the january 6th insurrectionists. i'm not kidding, they are not getting. quote, in a closed-door meeting of republicans on monday, right-wing lawmakers including representative marjorie taylor greene of georgia extracted promises their leaders when investigate speaker nancy pelosi in the justice department for the treatment of defendants jailed in connection with the january 6th attack on the capitol. republicans think that nancy pelosi mistreated the violent mob that stormed her office. that is the goal on day one of their new house majority. so these are the records right here today. and outgoing leader, carrying a resume filled with major structural change to benefit millions of americans. and an incoming leader of a party from who's extrude missing and conspiracies and grievances, these are the only things on his agenda. so what happens now? joining us now is someone who has been nancy pelosi's leadership first hand, who has seen and been there. california congressman adam
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schiff, chair of the house intelligence committee. congressman, it's good to have you. thank you for being here tonight. please do most of the talking because i'm having a hard time. you had a front row seat to the pelosi era and i went from someone high up in the leadership, what did it look like from the front row? what was it like to be a democratic caucus member under the leadership of nancy pelosi? >> i think all of us working with her, working around her have the sense that we are working with the greatest speaker the country's probably ever had. someone of immense talent, someone of historic proportion. what she was able to do with the slimmest of margins was only possible because she combined so many different skills. she knows the members supremely well, she knows what they want, she knows what they actually need, she knows their districts. she understands the legislative
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issues, she's a brilliant tactician. she knows how to work and members of both sides of the capitol. she knows how to leverage even being in the minority, and she got so much out of the minority off into the anxiety the republican majority that they were outplayed by speaker pelosi. now you might find someone who has some of those skills, you rarely find in a generation someone who has all of them and you've never found's anyone in history someone who had them in of such great abundance. all of us around her recognize that we were in the presence of greatness. >> i will say that someone who was at the privilege of interviewing her before, you always knew that you had limited time, because she had an extraordinary caliber. it wasn't just legislative things. these were constituent funerals, or baby showers. this was really someone who understand the poly part of politics, the humanity. she was there at critical moments of her constituents
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lives, and i think that's part of the speakership that hasn't been reported on as much. the degree to which she was really on the road doing the darn thing all the time. but she also had the ability to be firm. i think that's the other part. she was unstinting when she didn't like something that one of her own caucus members had presented. this is one of mom who was unafraid to i won't say, she didn't spare the rod. but she was tough right? did you ever, were you ever a victim of that toughness? >> oh, i saw her toughness all the time. i remember all, tell you funny story. when my daughter was i think only about three or four years old, i took her to the capital and nancy politically was our whip. i introduced her to nancy pelosi and i said to our daughter, alexa this is our nancy pelosi she's our whip, and if you don't do what she
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wants, she has a wig. nancy got down on her knees at the level of my daughter and said, don't tell or that, don't tell her that! and she took my daughter's hands and said, it's a candy wig, it's a candy whip! and i thought to myself, it is not a candy wig! she could be really tough as donald trump found out, as anyone who's ever cried tried to cross or found out. and most importantly, she is and has been utterly tenacious and defending our democracy at its most vulnerable hour. and tenacious in defending her constant constituents in california, people around the country and particularly children who are her real love and passion. >> congressman, as nancy pelosi exits her leadership role. she staying in congress but it's kevin mccarthy appears to take up the cattle and republicans will control the congress, they've outlined their priorities and put that
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in quotes. the priorities are largely the fabrication of conspiracy theories. how are you looked thinking about the next two years ahead? what should democrats, to how should house democrats think of their power at this moment? >>, well one of the many reasons i was hoping that speaker pelosi would stay on as our leader is it would've been the greatest mismatch in talents and intellect in history, that's it pelosi versus kevin mccarthy. look, it's important for the country that the work, the business of the country get done in the next two years. president biden i think made a very gracious statement to kevin mccarthy, urging that we work productively. they don't seem interested in that. now as you said, kevin mccarthy has promised the marjorie taylor greene's of the world that no, he is going to pursue these qanon crazy conspiracy theories investigating that c+-y. for what? for having an insurrectionist crowd hunting and trying to
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kill her? sadly, it will be for kevin mccarthy the lowest common denominator of their caucus. he is a very weak leader in every sense of that term, meaning he doesn't have a strong vote in his caucus, he doesn't have an ideology except his own advancement, and that's not much of a kind of cohesion to hold together his caucus. so you know sadly, i think it's going to be chaos on their side of the aisle and it's a tragedy for the country because we need to deal with inflation, we need a deal with changing climate, we need to deal with health care and so many other issues. and we need a functional government. >> congressman adam schiff of california, thank you for making the time and sharing with us my now favorite nancy pelosi line about a candy wig. it's not a candy wig. congressman, thanks retired, thanks for joining us tonight.
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i'm now joined by jake sherman, cofounder of the news, and an msnbc political contributor. you have been busy reporting out what is monumental decision by can i say the former speaker of the house nancy pelosi, soon to be former speaker of the house to step down. talk to me a little bit about how this is all going to work as far as democrats, are they seeing any power in these committee assignments? do you feel like they are gonna use those committee assignments to be a check on these republican investigations that kevin mccarthy seems intent on launching? >> they are very limited alex because if you think about it, if you have 218 votes, if you have the majority in the house of representatives, he can do anything you are essentially. if you have 218 votes. now that means that democrats on committees are gonna be relatively limited in what they can do. they can't stop the subpoenas, it can't stop investigations,
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they can't do much besides be a forceful voice against what they think is unjust and what they think is unfair and what they think is over reach. you should have no doubt that they will overreach. every majority i've ever covered and that is too many them at this point have overreached in some way, shape or form. that doesn't mean their investigations are all going to overreach, but when you get into the majority, you have this kind of burning desire to investigate and there is always missteps. so democrats can't do much. that doesn't mean they won't try, it doesn't mean it won't try to slow things down and fight back. but there's not a ton they can do. >> but i do wonder whether messaging and communication is important on these committees. there was a question of seniority. kurt bardella had a piece in the atlantic recommends the democrats elevate their best communicators on these communities. he sees it is paramount. elevating of a logic cummings to oversight was really important in the trump years.
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do you see a new crop of less senior democrats that may take them until may take the microphone in this moment beyond the leadership positions that we seem to know now? >> jamie raskin is one that will definitely, someone will be incredibly useful in the majority. when kirk bardella was a republican, i covered him, and when he was working with daryl ice in the obama administration that was a perfect example of how republicans use the committee process to just pump the brakes, yanked emergency brake on a lot of things that were going on in the administration. caused a huge distraction for barack obama. obama was reelected so did hurt him that much. but at that time, the elevated elijah cummings because they saw him as the best person to take on daryl eison. now there's a very vibrant race to be head of the oversight committee on the democratic side of the aisle. but you look around the democratic caucus, the
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democrats biggest strength in the biggest weakness is they don't have term limits on the committee chairs. so it's very difficult to inject new blood when you need new blood. some people have suggested that to change mr. schiff when he is considering a race for leadership a couple of months ago suggested that to change him was one of the things he been telling members of congress. but when you look at the judiciary committee, the house judiciary committee, with jerry adler on one side is gonna be the top democrat, jim jordan on the other side, democrats are worried about that for. someone told me that because jim jordan's bombastic and quite outspoken and had learned a little as. so that's something democrats have to figure out. but you are absolutely right. communications and messaging and just how to get on tv and say these people are not telling the truth when they're not telling the truth is incredibly important. >> what about the progressives. when we talk about the names that are being floated for leadership, there are no house
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progressives in the mix. congressman camilla jive prom has been very vocal, engaged in negotiation around the build bit better acts, and other pieces of the biden agenda. do you see spaces for them? is it too late? and why do you think the progressive caucus i mean, i want to say left out at this juncture but is not certainly on the main stage? >> you have to run for a leadership position if you want it, and if you are slow to it and i said this today, maybe on twitter if that still exists, if you don't run and you don't get out of the gate, you are going to lose. joaquin jeffries, catherine clark, and pete aguilar really got out of the gate quickly and sullivan vied their position. that's why they're gonna be the next leadership slate. but camilla jayapal has not done. now this is a similar dynamic, i'm not comparing the freedom
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caucus and progressives, but you need to be able to build coalitions that kid when you positions and leadership. he can't just hope that someone's gonna put either. you need to put together a race and run and convince people why you are the best for the job. it's not as much as well there just being left out, and really should have a place at the table. it's nation of a place at the table, and they should be able to find a majority of house democrats who agree with that proposition that they should be at the table. if they are not, then they should not be at the table, and that's what you see in republican leadership. can service complain they're left out, they don't have the number so they can't get their. this is something for queen jeffries to manage. it's gonna be a difficult task for him, but what kareem jeffries has frequently spoken out against some of the most progressive lawmakers. he's a pretty progressive lawmaker himself. it's not all the way in the, left and he's also spoken out against what he calls the performative nature of some segments of progressive
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politics these days. so that clash between jeffries and that world and the leadership world and the progressives will be something interesting to watch. >> i don't know. as complicated as that choreography is, i think most people watching these deliberations evolve would rather have a democratic accomplice that republican congress, that looks like a brutal path for anyone -- >> there is no doubt about that. if you look at what happened today, they swapped of three, that's it pelosi, jim clyburn for three. joaquin jeffries, catherine clark and pete aguilar. the republicans, kevin mccarthy has a treacherous, treacherous path to the speakership that nancy pelosi had similar treacherous paths what but was able to overcome them with a bunch of these at the end of the day. >> there are some people would say that is a treacherous path.
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and his own making. cofounder of the news, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. alex >> we have much more ahead this hour. now the republicans won a narrow majority now's, what kind of influence will be more potters and members that caucus have and will they actually pursue? bogus investigations into president biden's family and his allies. we'll spoke with someone who once again sometime ago was a target of rib dick euless republican vesta geishas. and with likely just weeks ago before the dissolution of the january six committee, investigators have spoken to a key member of president trump's key security detail was with them on a violent day at the capitol. all that, stay ahead with us. at, stay ahead with us
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insurrectionists have been wrongly imprisoned? >> all i said is we are going to look at the politics of the justice department based on the fact that we have had 14, actually more than 14 come to talk to us. that's where we're gonna focus. on >> video grounds? >> this is not a big deal. if we can keep it a hunter biden will be. >> it's been 24 hours after the puck control as was held to republicans, gop decided to hold this press conference to talk about alleged evidence against hunter.
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biden people are taking the oversight in january, telegraphed exactly where their attention will be laser focused going forward. on fantasy investigations the target joe biden, his family the democrats. not actual policy, perhaps something based in the world of facts. focuses on conspiracy theories, weaponize to extract political points. and they really do mean focus. in the words of congressman connor, if we can keep it about hunter biden, that would be great. would it? this is the direction of the republican party so, it should come as no surprise when speaker pelosi reflected on her decades long tenure on the house floor this today, the man expected to be counted next speaker was absent. kevin mccarthy told reporters he could not make it because he was taking meetings. as it turns out, mccarthy was meeting with trump child separations are and senior architect of cruelty stephen miller. jacqueline alemany spotted miller walking to the leader's
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office just before speaker pelosi took the floor. remember that stephen miller is the person who flooded the airwaves just days ago with some of the most breathtakingly racist racist ads ever seen. as the cost republicans some very important seats. but that reality, that racist dog whistles and culture wars and wild conspiracy confections did not win the elections. that reality has not settled in for the gop. the right is not faded, not in remission by a long shot. stephen miller is meeting with the man who will presumably be speaker, giving him advice or maybe orders, we have no idea. the hunter biden is the focus of two key committees. that is where the gop is at, which is to say a long way from a normal governing coalition. but the biden white house is ready for this, at least that is the reporting. cnn reports today that the biden administration has essentially been conducting mock trials in the past few months in anticipation of an
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onslaught of oversight. quote, the preparations are among the earliest a most comprehensive by any administration ahead of the midterm election and highlight how far reaching and aggressive republic investigations are expected to be. joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president biden, and a man who knows well what is to be the objects of insane republican investigations. good to see you. what is it like to know that republicans have your number and they are gonna put the full force of their committees and directed towards you? >> it's a little to stopping a little demoralizing alex. i think, i harken back to benghazi, that's the thing that i've tire marks on my back from. the reality of that is that really republicans had control of the houses that they did seven investigations in 2012, 2013 and you thought when those investigations didn't find anything, the truth and the facts are, now we can move on.
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no. then they started a select committee in that continue. i frankly didn't end up appearing before one of their benghazi committees to the last year of the obama administration, four years after the magazine tax. the point being, they never stop, and it doesn't matter what the facts are or what the truth is, they just want to continue the show. the show is the only thing they care about. >> it does bear mentioning that you had a job, an important job's national security advisor as this is all unfolding. your attacks of death as you are defending your current congress. what is that balance? like it's >> it's hard and one of the biggest challenges of the white house is limiting the amount of bandwidth and stress and fatigue that is put on people that are subjects of oversight. you have to do multiple things at once. you have to figure how to keep doing your jobs or taking this seriously. you have to figure out how to message while, yacyreta questions, you're appearing before committee, but you're calling it out. you're describing for people, this is what they are doing.
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they are trying to distract you from the issues that matter in your life to put on a show for whatever audience they're appealing to. because they don't care about the people who are watching this show. they don't care about the people in the middle who voted against republicans in the key elections. they care about who's watching fox news, they care about who's reading breitbart, who's getting clicks in far-right media. that's their audience, they're living in a completely alternative universe, to the one where you are showing up at the white house every day in doing your job. >> you briefly mentioned some of the things at the white house aim to do when you are dealing with benghazi. we have this reporting that the biden white house, while ahead of november 8th as preparing, lining up whatever resources they have. do you have a sense of what that might be and what kind of resources were allocated towards you that could've been increase not as a criticism but kind of as reality preparation for what is happening come next year? >> in terms of preparations, one of the universe of documents these people are looking for, how can we anticipate that.
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how who are they gonna call for witnesses and how do we print begin to prepare them. i do we begin to prepare for everything, subpoenas for everything. frankly what i look back on that, the normal push and pull of these oversight things is white houses usually reluctant to share information. the problem with that is that it drags it out and it's like a drip, drip drip. when i look back on and, i said because we didn't do anything wrong, let's just give it all to these people upfront, and say look, here it is we didn't do anything wrong. here are the facts. we're trying to govern for the american people, and move on and do business for the american people. you guys are the ones who are trying to put on the show and not give them the type of drama that washington loves. are they going to squeeze this information out of these people? who want to drain the drama out of it because there is no drama. we all know with this is about. >> but it is complicated for biden because it's about his son. >> that's a little different, it's a little complicated. they've been dealing with hunter biden issues on the campaign. it's been out in the right-wing domain four years now, and they should use that to their
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advantage. you have to go and say we all know this, this is all been in the public. we've heard about the laptop, we've seen the pictures. they are doing this because they don't have an agenda. they don't have answers to the questions that you care about in your lives. and i think that's the key message you have to keep coming back to. this is a distraction. describe for people what they are doing and why they're doing it. they are doing it because they don't have an answer as to how to govern. >> i think that's something worth talking about. if this is not just politics as usual. you've written about this in your bestselling books, about the slide towards autocracy, and fascism and the grasp of anti-democratic principles. and what you look at what the gop is quite clearly telling the people when they are gonna do when they're power lower chamber. it's not the job of governing, is not the normal behaviors of the normal governing party, it's something else based fundamentally analyze. and i wonder what that tells you about the state of affairs in american politics as it
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concerns a broader slide towards the darkness? >> i actually think about something that alexei navalny told me, russian opposition leader was put in prison. he told me of something that i would applies to the republican party. prudent doesn't have to prove to people it is corrupt, everybody knows that he's corrupt. his message is, everybody is corrupt. you don't have to convince people of your virtue. the republican party today, it's a strategy of cynicism and apathy in a way. look, everybody is corrupt. hunter biden, we may have our problems and the republican side. donald trump and his kids may be totally corrupt and making deals with the saudis, but hunter biden is corrupt as well. and politics is so ugly that it demoralizes people, it turns them off, and makes them not want to participate in politics, because it looks ridiculous. you know what a run for office and one of our people and running for office. what you have to combat is that
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cynicism. no, that it does matter what, these people are doing has negative consequences for lives, because it's obstructing government from doing things that you need them to do to, keep you safe, to address inflation, to address all of these issues. and what we have to realize is the strategy of cynicism, and we have to somehow combat. that >> strategy of cynicism. ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president about obama. matt assad in the hot seat for many, many months on. and thanks for being here in event. >> thanks alex. >> still ahead tonight. senate democrats will hold on to the majority in congress, but when it comes to the senate runoff in georgia, democrats are not taking chances. and a generous six committee might be wrapping things up, but earlier today, investigator spoke to someone who might know what was going to donald trump said as his supporters broke into the u.s. capital. more of that coming up next. stay with us. stay with us ♪♪ allergies don't have to be scary.
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new congress with a slim republican majority will be sworn in. and between now and that, we are expecting the highly anticipated final report from the january 6th select committee. now the committee has yet to interview donald trump or mike pence, because the former president blew off a committee sub any subpoena, and former
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vice president said he won't talk to the committee. but even its final days the committee is getting a chance to interview relevant key witnesses in and around january 6th. one of those people is the lead secret service agents for former president donald trump. a man named bobby angle. that man that name a ring a bell. >> the president said something to the effect of i am the effing president, take me up to the capital now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm and said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we are not going to the capital. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and, this was recounted the story towards me, he had
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motioned towards his clavicle's. >> cassidy hutchinson the former white house aide, testified in june as she was told the trump lunged at the steering wheel bobby engle told the president they were not going to the capital. cnn was the first report this in an nbc news has confirmed this. agent angles sat with the for an interview of the january 6th committee today. he'd spoken to the committee previously but that was before cassidy hutchinson's testimony. today is the first day that agent angles has spoken to the committee since her bombshell testimony. cassidy hutchinson at promissory testified that tony ornato and told her what happened in the suv with angle present and angle did not dispute the account at the time. this means that the january 6th panel presumably today got one step closer to what happened that day. and that matters because it speaks to january six president trump's state of mind that day.
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>> >> when dom trump announced his 2024 presidential run on tuesday, it left a lot of people shaking their hands. democrats and republicans. members of trump's own party expressed concern the announcement was going to complicate things for the final race of the midterm elections. the senate would runoff in georgia. and it seems they were right. today we have confirmation that trump is not only viewed as a loser in his own party but he's
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also turning out to be an albatross around the neck of the republican nominee, herschel walker. this is a new ad from the warnock campaign. >> we must all work very hard for a gentleman and a great person named herschel walker. [applause] a fabulous human being who loves our country and will be a great united states senator. herschel walker. get out and vote for herschel. and he deserves it. he was an incredible athlete. he'll be an even better senator. get out and vote for herschel walker. >> i'm raphael warnock and i approve this message. >> that's the ad. it's just a trump endorsement. that is how bad things have gotten for trump in georgia, that the mere suggestion of trump's touch can turn a candidate into kryptonite. senate democrats are looking at this rates with big hopes, and they are investing $7 million to beef up to get out the vote efforts that haven't already been put in place by nonprofits and packs and warnock's
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campaign itself. globalization is crucial here because for a one, turnout has been lower for democrats in runoff races, and secondly voters are facing an early voting restriction that happens to be the subject of a new lawsuit from senator warnock and the georgia democratic party. that suit asks a judge to reverse the states law banning saturday voting after thanksgiving and state holiday. in this case the holiday is a day formerly observed as robert e. lee's birthday. the lawsuit are eight so argues the law doesn't apply to runoffs with a shorter voting period. faced with all of this, alaska that might expand voter access and weaponizing trump's endorsement and millions of dollars benefiting his opponent. with all this in front of him, what is herschel walker thinking? well, here he is on the campaign trail yesterday. explaining his candidacy and his reason for running for office. >> i mean to tell you something that i find out.
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a werewolf can kill a van pyre. did you know that? i never knew that. i want to be a van i don't want to be a vampire tomorrow, i want to be aware if both. that sounds like senator warnock doesn't? it he took the cross and put it on the vampires forehead in the via pardoning to do anything. he said that don't work. when that's the way it is in our life. it doesn't even work unless you got faith. it is time for us to have faith. we have faith and our fellow brother. the unit faith in this country. gonna have faith in this elected officials. >> joining us now is kendrick cotton, ceo of the new georgia project. miss cotton, thank you for being here. i saw you smiling listening to that extraordinary stump speech from herschel walker. but let's start with the former president. we are now at the stage of the game where georgia, formerly a republican state, someone running in a very close race in that state, the democrat can literally just run and add of trump's endorsement of his opponent and that's enough to swing voters. is that how bad is gone for
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trump in the state of georgia? >> yes. i think it's how bad it's gone for trump but i think it's also a testament to how awful a candidate herschel walker actually is. he was repudiated at the ballot box and in general we did not get to that 50 plus one threshold but we fully intend to leave it all on the field in advance of december 6th. and, yes i think you accurately described it. with trump being an albatross, around his neck and we're gonna continue to remind voters that is who he is aligned with. >> the warnock campaign is a very, i don't want to say trump audacious. there's a very careful campaign. it feels like they're much more on the offense in this final stretch of the campaign that will never end. do you think that's evidence of confidence? >> i think evidence of confidence, but i also think, we see expected this to happen.
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we expected this to be a tight race. i'm sure the campaign expected, that as well. but i think they also know that they can't just leave it up to grassroots groups like ours to do all the punching. and so i think what we're gonna see now is them trying, you know, as you already described, being on the offense, not on the defensive, when dealing with the walker campaign. the grassroots ecosystem here in georgia is ridiculously robust. i'm so proud to be a part of it. to talk about the turnout and what we're gonna be doing, i mean, we have plans, the new georgia action fund, to not get 1 million dollars doors and just over these human days, just before december six, and that is ridiculously large amount number because we've only knocked on 2.1 million doors all this year. we're bullish out here because what we know is that if we can reach these voters, if we can
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all conversations at the doors, our voters are three times more likely to actually show up and vote. so it is critically important for us to get out. i think the campaign understand that, as, well to energize and motivate means what we described as high opportunity voters. a lot of people call the low propensity voters. we know that the power they bring, because this is game of margins. this is not a persuasion gain. people are firmly firmly in their camps. so what we do it she payoff, the georgia project action fund, we try to connect folks to the policies. yes, it's about warnock, but we are not here is democrats. we are nonpartisan. this is about heart issues. this is about what is impacting voters. it's about reproductive justice. it's about access to affordable health care. it's about judicial appointments. and our voters understand that, regardless of who's on the ballot. we are voting for greater progress in this state. >> it is exhilarating to hear your enthusiasm. people talk a lot about how democrats behave.
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i think all the conventional wisdom is out the window and it sounds like the enthusiasm is through the roof. kendra cotton, ceo of the new georgia project, thank you for the work you're doing on behalf of democracy. >> thank you very much, alex. >> we have one more story to get to tonight. every vote matters, and in some cases a difference of just one vote could make all the difference. that story is next. stay with us. next stay with us there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal.
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control of the pennsylvania state house for the first time in 12 years. democrats 102 seats, republicans 101 seats. if you ever felt like your vote didn't really count in the grand scheme of things, take a look at the two races that decided this thing. and the bucks county race that one republicans there hundred and four seat tonight, the republican is ahead by a whopping 53 vote lead. in the montgomery county race, secured democrats there is -- see tonight and with it took control of the pennsylvania state house for the first time in years was won by just 58 votes. but even if that isn't sold you on the idea that every vote matters, if 50-ish votes is student still too big a margin for you, let me direct you towards new hampshire state. house last week the looked like the democrats have 197. but 28 of those state house races were close enough that candidates requested recounts. on monday the democrat running to represent manchester new
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hampshire's ward six won her recount by one single vote. that brought the partisan split in the state house to 202 republicans, 198 democrats. on tuesday the democrat in co-opts county, new hampshire, won his recount by two votes. that brought the partisan split in the state house to 200 more publicans and 109 democrats. yesterday the recount in new hampshire's rochester ward for, that ended in a literal tie. nine 70 tonight 70. that means that seat shifts to being undecided. it will be litigated, et cetera, it sattre. but that brings the partisan split of the new hampshire state house to 200 republicans 299 democrat kratz. and there are still 11 recounts left to go. every vote matters. that does it for me and my broken voice box tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it is time for the last word, with lawrence o'donnell. s >>

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