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and biden was like to, oh, okay, nancy. take her home. take her home. so funny. >> it is the top of the fourth hour of "morning joe," and there's a live look at san francisco for you this morning. we've got a lot to cover this hour as the new era is taking shape in washington. the top two democrats in the house, speaker pelosi and majority leader steny hoyer announcing they will not seek leadership positions in the new congress. we're going to speak with the majority leader about his to decision and the future of the democratic party. also this hour, we're following a new wave of resignations at twitter after employees reject and demand -- the demand from elon musk to commit a, quote, hardcore work environment, to commit to that environment. and the question this morning is, will the social media company survive its new ceo? he seems to keep missing it, like he keeps making more and

more mistakes, spending more and more money. you tell a workforce in this economic environment, leave or take the oath to me? and it will be only, like, the hardest hours, you'll work the hardest hours ever. what are they going to do? they'll leave, elon. >> he wants a personal commitment. >> an oath. does he want a loyalty oath? >> is this the guy you want to give your loyalty oath to? >> i would say no. >> you're going to say -- >> i would say no. no and no. >> a trumpian strategy, trying to keep twitter going by making as many headlines as possible. >> just goes to show, just because you're racism doesn't mean you're smart. >> but he has been in other arenas, brilliant, but this has been expoing in a very disturbing way, especially after the attack of paul pelosi, nancy

pelosi in the news today, it was elon musk posting, i don't know, a conspiracy -- this man doesn't understand what he's purchased. >> he must have come in and thought this isn't rocket science. >> oh. >> but people science, not so good at. >> eugene robinson is here. and curt bar della is now an adviser to the dnc and dccc, and chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," peter baker. good to have you all on board. we'll get to the historical and political implications of nancy pelosi step do you think from her leadership position, but first, it's a very revealing reaction yesterday by many house republicans to her speech. you would think -- gracious? the house chamber was packed with democratic lawmakers. while the republican side was

largely empty. at several points democrats stood for applause while republicans sat in silence. meanwhile, minority leader kevin mccarthy, who was hoping to succeed nancy pelosi as house speaker next term, he didn't even attend her speech. here's what he told reporters about why he didn't go. >> i had meetings. but normally the others would do it during votes. i wish she could have done that. could have done that. >> had meetings. with steven miller. >> he had meetings with steven miller. that's right. he did, actually. this is no joke. >> yeah. i mean, i asked -- we saw steven miller walk into mccarthy's office right before the speech, maybe an hour before. we're asking his people what is this meeting about. didn't see steven miller leave or mccarthy leave. we were told they were just

friends catching up. is that a meeting or -- i mean, just friends? >> that's a meeting. minority whip steve scalise was the only member of the house gop leadership to attend pelosi's speech, and he showed up late. what house republicans were instead focused on earlier yesterday morning was showing the country how they intend to use their upcoming razor thin majority. take a listen. >> this investigation will be a top priority. the biden family's business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the constitution. i don't want this to be about the human -- the prostitutes. here's the thing. hunter biden isn't this innocent guy that just got a bad rap because he had a drug problem and republicans don't need to waste any time on it. our investigation is about joe biden. >> i'm wondering if you might be able to confirm that your committees will be investigating speaker pelosi and the department of justice for their

treatment of defendants jailed in connection with january 6th, a promise that speaker -- that intentionally speaker mccarthy made to the house caucus earlier this week. >> we're focused on how political our justice department has become. >> what are the grounds to veg -- >> this is kind of a big deal, we think. if we can get rid of hunter biden, that would be great. >> my god. curt, a piece in "the atlantic" entitled "benghazi times infinity." you wrote in part, "when the tea party wave swept republicans into the house majority in 2010, they had one objective, to effectively end the president i si of barack obama by inundating his administration with investigations and subpoenas. back then, the top democrat on the oversight panel was the mild-mannered representative ed towns of new york. after republican congressman darrell issa ran roughshod over

him for two years, the democratic leadership realized it had to recalibrate if it had any chance of blunting isis probes and saving obama's agenda. democrats got smart. they broke the precedent of letting the most senior member automatically assume the ranking position and sidelined towns. my professional opinion is that democrats should again ignore seniority. just as issa elevated and recruited members would become major figures in trump's remade version of the republican party, democrats must now answer the call and elevate their best communicators." who? how? >> well, i think the answer there, mika, is the oversight committee, they need to pick someone like raskin to run the panel and for the judiciary david cicilline. they replaced towns we lie. cummings, who i can tell you as someone there who was working for issa, we were, like, oh,

gold, not elijah because he's so brilliant, such a great communicator. we knew he would cause us all kinds of trouble. >> such a good man. >> truly a good man. our biggest fear was that our boss would become best friends with him and be co-opted because it's impossible not to like elijah cummings. >> it is impossible. >> republicans need to ditch the seniority, ditch the way it's always been done. these guys are out for blood. they said it right there, this is about hunter biden. >> so clunky and literally, like -- i mean what grade are you in, honestly? these members of congress, these republican members of congress are truly unique in their cultish behavior. >> aren't there some voters who voted for republicans because they said they were going to fix inflation, they were going to make everything better? did they really vote for this

investigation of hunter biden, for that to be the top agenda item? >> maybe in some small areas, but overall, the midterms i thought taught the republicans some lessons about if you don't want to lose next time you're going to need to change your ways. peter baker, what are you hearing about who might step into some of these leadership positions? and also whether or not there are some republicans in the house that might give hope that there could be a republican party made up mostly of members of the senate and maybe some members of the house? >> well, look, you know, they obviously want a majority, but the narrowest possible majority, what's striking about this conference sit's a more trumpy conference than the previous one, right? a lot of people who won, won on his ticket, won on his argument, election deniers or paid fealty to former president trump, and what he wants them to do, of

course, is to use these two years while he's trying to run for the office again to, you know, get me some dirt, if you will, on joe biden. remember, ten republicans who voted for impeaching donald trump, only two of them are left. they were forced out or left or resigned or so forth. they're going to absolutely pursue the investigations. the truth is with the narrowest majority they have anyway, it's probably the easiest thing they have to do because they can't pass a lot of legislation they might have wanted to do previously with a handful of votes if that to work with. >> so, really quickly before we move on to nancy pelosi, jackie, this discussion about january 6th rioters, some of these members are talking -- what are they talking about?

like retrying their cases? what's the reality they're looking senate. >> yeah, mika. marjorie taylor greene has made this her rallying cry for the past couple years to the january 6th defendants who have been in her opinion wrongly imprisoned. but this is all part of what is more -- >> it's chilling. >> -- becoming a concerted effort to run a smear campaign for the doj and grease the wheels for when if there is an indictment that eventually comes out of the department of justice against the former president that they can continue to point to these different areas of baseless sort of political corruption. but i just have to point out the department of justice has been investigating hunter biden since 2018. and he is a trump holdover and

we are waiting on him to decide if they press charges because they have according to reporting by my colleagues, they have collected enough evidence to charge him on tax crimes and illegally having a gun. we're waiting on that. this is not -- it's not like this hasn't been -- >> the justice department has not been ignoring this issue. there are questions. and this is not, oh, wow, you got me out of the blue. it's an issue they've been looking at. yeah, exactly. and, you know, again, as we just saw in that press conference we asked them explicitly about whether or not they are going to pursue some of these boondoggle vegive targets that are really just pretty performative seeming, and they both dodged the question there. but i think jonathan said it best, this is all about right now in this moment about mccarthy extracting as much support as possible to hit the

support to become the speaker, 218, a number he's pretty far away from right now. >> as for nancy pelosi's speech announcing she is stepping down as democratic leader, she reflected on her time in congress and shared an optimistic outlook on the future for democrats and america. >> for me, the hour has come for a new generation to lead the democratic caucus that i so deeply respect. and i'm grateful that so many are ready and willing to shoulder this awesome responsibility. a new day is dawning on the horizon, and i look forward, always forward, to the unfolding story of our nation, a story of light and love, of patriotism and progress, of many becoming one. and always an unfinished mission to make the dreams of today the reality of tomorrow.

thank you all. may god bless you and your family, and may god continue to bless our veterans and the united states of america. >> let's bring in former chief of staff to the dccc, adrienne elrod, a senior aide to hillary clinton and the biden presidential campaigns and co-founder and lauren leader, a new piece for "know your value" entitled "nancy pelosi's extraordinary and pioneering legacy." good to have you both. adrienne, in terms of moving forward, because sometimes i'm a little scared of tomorrow when i hear these republicans talk, what is the best way forward for democrats seeing now what these house republicans want to do with their time? >> yeah. mika, first of all, the republicans are going to step in this. they already have. they do it every single day. when you contrast the press conference with the quote,

unquote new republican leadership that will be overseeing the house oversight committee, the house judiciary yesterday talking about our first order of business is investigating -- looking into hunter biden's laptop, i mean, you can track that with speaker pelosi giving such an eloquent, graceful speech on the floor of the united states congress ushering in the next generation, making it clear she's turning over the goovl the next leadership in the democratic party. it tells you everything you need to know. how do democrats handle this? i think we kind of sit back and watch republicans do what they're doing. you guys talked about this on the panel. jackie mentioned it. the doj has been looking into hunter biden's, you know, whatever republicans are alleging that he's done, and there's nothing there. so democrats are prepared. there is a group that was just launched yesterday by brad woodhouse, a democratic strategist, to, you know, sort of be the outside group that's

going to defend as necessary from some of these attacks that are going to come from the republicans. but i think if you're a voter who voted in the last election, you watch the contrast between what leader pelosi did yesterday versus what some of the republicans did in terms of their priorities, there's your answer. the contrast could not be more clear. >> so, curt, what is the strategy for democrats while this sort of -- whatever you want to call it -- hunter-focused, impeach biden, you know, do investigations on nancy pelosi, those sideshows, that circus is going to happen, what's the best way looking toward 2024? how should democrats respond or not? >> i think democrats should always provide the context. they've shown they are disingenuous, hypocrital, they have no problem lying to the american people about what the facts are. you can't let that go.

also, republicans spent the last four years ignoring congressional subpoenas, saying that congress doesn't have any authority of any kind, combatting subpoenas in court. that needs to be part of that conversation, too, the overwhelminghypocrisy. democrats, it's what they campaign on, having an agenda that talks to the american people. make the republicans in the house vote down things that will actually help the economy, help gas price, help with inflation, address health care, protect women's rights, make the people know every time. >> lauren leader, you wrote about the powerful legacy of nancy pelosi. i wonder what democrats can take with them. she's still going to be on the sidelines working, still in congress, but also she says she will not be that mother-in-law giving advice in the kitchen. but i venture to say many democrats would be fine with her advice. >> yeah. and they should be, because nobody has greater mastery over the process, greater mastery over uniting fractured and

different views across the party than her. i just have to say, it does speak to her extraordinary commitment to service, that she could be retiring to some plush gig. there were rumors she might go to italy and be the ambassador. instead, she's staying in congress to keep doing the work of the people and to up port the next generation of leadership, which i think is pretty extraordinary. you know, part of pelosi's example, which i hope the new leadership will follow, is this incredible devotion to supporting other democrats. and no one has done more to get more diversity into the democratic party than her, to get more women elected. as susan said earlier, she raised over a billion dollars. and i hope that part of her example, the sort of relentless focus on supporting her colleagues, not just casting extraordinary, transformational legislation for the president, but also for supporting her colleagues, making sure they could be successful will continue to be the legacy of democratic leadership in the house. >> and what will that leadership

look like, lauren? >> well, it's going to be more diverse, obviously. i mean i think the sense is that hakeem jeffries is the next in line. we'll see if there will be an active campaign from multiple sides. pretty interesting that new york might be controlling the house and the senate after what happened in the recent election. but the next generation, they're thoughtful, moderate mostly, and are going to have huge, very chic high-heeled shoes to fill when she steps down. >> absolutely. they were very chic and still are. peter baker, add to us any reporting you have in terms of the next generation of leadership and leadership on both sides, republican and democrat. >> on sunday, president biden is going to turn 80, already the oldest president in our history, and there are questions about whether he should run again. if he ran again, he would be 86

at the end of his second term. diane feinstein in california, a number of colleagues were concerned if she was slipping and she agreed to step down, pass on that post, third in line to the presidency. i think nancy pelosi and steny hoyer stepping down is a generational moment, the generation that has led us is finally going to begin passing the torch to a younger generation. there's been a lot of anxiety about that among younger democrats as well as republicans, for that matter. mitch mcconnell is also an octogenarian, and there's agitation among republicans for a younger leadership as their former president, who's 76, is now aiming for a comeback. it's a really interesting moment i think in our country where the silent generation as we call them and the older baby boomers are beginning to pass power

along to their younger cohorts. >> peter, than you. before we close this conversation and get to the other news of the day, eugene, you write about the outgoing speaker, "nancy pelosi is the most consequential speaker of our time." and this is quick, be, yo write in part, "nancy d'alesandro is still the daughter of an old-school baltimore mayor who taught her to practice politics by counting votes and twisting arms. along with a thick skin and a wicked sense of humor, these skills made her the most consequential speaker of our time. she had fierce intelligence, attention to detail, and ceaseless hard work. i asked her to describe her method and hearing the answer made me exhausted. her toughens was leavened with a delightful and bipartisan sense of humor. when she said she prayed for the president she support and those she opposed, including trump, she was serious. nancy pelosi is a believer, and

her belief has made ours a more perfect union." i love it. that's really beautiful. thank you very much. curt bardella, adrienne, eugene, than you for being on this morning. to other stories. in arizona, republican kari lake still has yet to concede the race she lost for governor. she has repeatedly claimed without evidence that the results are illegitimate, posting a video to twitter yesterday telling followers the, quote, fight to save our republic has just begun. and while lake was sharing those videos on her social media, "the washington post" reports she did so from mar-a-lago. the former local news tv anchor who voted for obama was at donald trump's florida home and golf club yesterday to attend a luncheon host build the america first policy institute. the institute founded by trump

allies last year held events at the club yesterday and will again today to, quote, ensure policies are prepared and finalized for a new session of congress. she's exhausting. >> yeah. >> she's just exhausting. she's a complete and total fraud, really, really, really well -- she's a talented puppet of trump. she does a good job at it. >> but she swung and missed. >> she swung and missed. >> lost. >> lost her election. doing the trumpy thing. >> you have to love that mar-a-lago is the populism headquarters. >> there you go. >> fraud. maybe they can look at some documents together. federal prosecutors are expected -- she might be able to read them -- to make their final pitch to jurors today in the seditious conspiracy case against oath keepers' founder stewart rhodes and four associates charged in the january 6th attack on the u.s.

capitol. rhodes and his associates are accused of plotting for weeks to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power during the last presidential election. closing arguments are expected to begin on monday for the defense. and the uvalde officer who was leading the city's police department during the law enforcement response to the elementary school shooting that killed 19 children and 2 teachers has stemmed down. lieutenant mariano pargas retired after 18 years working for the city. this comes days after he was told children were alive in a classroom half an hour before officers breached the room. he is the second to leetch law enforcement in the fallout since that massacre in may. and coming up on "morning joe," majority leader steny hoyer will join the table for his first interview since

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well, a live look at buffalo right now at 29 past the hour. that's where an historic winter storm is taking aim at millions from michigan to new york this morning. some areas are expecting up to 6 feet of snow. nbc news correspondent jesse

kirsch has the details. >> reporter: this morning an early taste of winter's worst has buffalo at a complete standstill. overnight, western new york hit with thunder snow. part of an hours-long lake-effect storm shutting down buffalo public schools. >> our biggest enemy here for the next 48 to 72 hours is a lack of common sense. >> please, never run a generator inside your house or inside your garage. >> i wasn't expecting this. this is -- this is big. >> reporter: but by monday the total could be a crippling 5 feet. the intense storm forcing the bills and cleveland browns to move their sunday matchup out of buffalo to detroit. but parts of michigan, ohio, and pennsylvania are also blanketed in white with some areas seeing almost a foot and a half of snow on the ground. >> what we're talking about is a major, major storm. this is considered an extreme event. >> reporter: all of this earlier than expected thanks to lake-effect snow, which happens

when moisture from the great lakes' relatively warm waters clilds with arctic air blasting over the midwest and northeast. low visibility and rapid accumulation will make some roads and airport runways harder to reach less than a week before thanksgiving. >> be mindful of the travel advisories, stay home if you can. >> reporter: even if you don't see snow, you may not be in the clear. the northern plains and upper midwest are expecting high temps in the 20s with some overnight lows plummeting into single digits. and at least 20 million people are facing freeze alerts into tomorrow morning from texas to virginia. back in buffalo, the storm's bull's-eye, this is a weekend to stay in. >> you are an obstacle to our plow trucks when you're on the road. and when you gets on the road and you get stuck, our plows can't get past you. >> nbc's jesse kirsch with that report. we'll be following that story here all the time on msnbc. it's time for a look at the morning papers. "the atlanta journal

constitution" leads with the busy holiday travel season. in georgia, more than 2.5 million are expected to pass through hartsfield-jackson international airport over the thanksgiving holiday. meanwhile, air travel nation wild is expected to be close to or above prepandemic levels according to a new report. in illinois, the "chicago tribune" reports doctors are urging parents to get their children vaccinated against the flu. only about 9% of pediatric care beds in the state are currently available due to the surges in cases of rsv. the news times of connecticut has a front-page feature on one local police department's new training model, the danbury police department. it's exploring how virtual reality can help better prepare officers for real-life situations. it's one of the latest technological advancements that aims to improve policing. and florida today covers the latest on the former spacex

employee who is say they were fired for writing an open letter criticizing the behavior of ceo elon musk. the eight employee tos filed unfair labor practice charges against the company yesterday. they allege their fires were illegal under the national labor relations act. meanwhile, musk is also dealing with a new wave of resignations hitting twitter. the employee exdenver nuggets comes after the company's new owner, elon musk, asked his workers to commit to an extremely hardcore work environment or leave. nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk has the late details. >> reporter: this morning the doors at twitter are locked amid fresh turmoil and a mass employee exodus. employees told the company's offices will be temporarily closed and badge access will be restricted through monday according to cnbc. on thursday, a fresh wave of

resignations rocked twitter again after billionaire boss musk sends an email to employees detailing his vision for twitter 2.0. it read in part, "we will need to be extremely hardcore. this will mean working long hours at high intensity, only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade." the ultimatum a-5 p.m. deadline on thursday. respond yes if you decide to stay. if not, he write, "anyone who has not done so will receive three months of severance." >> kind of hard koir make your decision to stay or go, not something twitter people are accustomed to. >> reporter: that email prompted hundreds of employees to step down. according to "the new york times," citing two people with knowledge of the situation, some employee who is quit tweeting the salute emoji, meant to convey the message, thank you for your service. musk now back tracking on his hard line remote work policy after initially telling employees it was no longer allowed, he now says all that is

required for approval is that your manager takes responsibility for ensuring that you are making an excellent contribution. the latest wave of resignations coming after musk already laid off thousands of staff when he officially took over the company. melissa ingle worked as a senior data scientist at twitter. she said she was fired just days before musk delivered his latest ultimate may tum but has co-worker who is resigned yesterday. she believes twitter's future is hanging in the balance. >> it just seems with current staff levels, it can flatout not be saved. >> reporter: musk to posted a skrul and cross bones flag, a meme showing twitter in the grave and telling his followers, how do you make a small fortune in social media? start out with a large one. >> let's bring in the co-anchor of cnbc's "squawk box," andrew ross sorkin. maybe he can make some sense of this. andrew, there's something -- i mean, his behavior is weird at this point.

remember, we had someone who knew elon really well on the show recently, and she said elon does what elon wants to do. but at this point, elon's behavior and his decisions are impacting the lives of people -- you know, their jobs and their livelihoods and also the future of a social media giant that has a huge part in our discourse. >> look, there's no question it has a huge part in our discourse and no question it's impacting the lives of many who have been involved and worked at twitter and their families for a very long time. in some ways, this is by design, though, in terms of elon's design, that is. yes, there have been some employees that i think he wanted to stay or was hoping would stay, but i think in truth the goal was in fact for people who were not on board with this approach to how he wants to run this organization and what that

means, he wanted them to leave. and whether this company can remain and flourish, you know, i think that's an open question. there are people betting on both sides of that. there are some people who think there are not enough engineers and other people physically there to keep things going. if, in fact, if something were to break, the whole thing could break at least temporarily. that's possible, but elon is one of these people, as you know, who's been willing to have situations that have been a little messier than most others. >> mm-hmm. so i know we want to get to goldman and amazon and a couple other stories, but i'm curious, do you know anything about those who are leaving or have left in terms of how they fit into the efforts of twitter and how it operates, and if more leave, what could happen? >> well, that's -- it's a great question. i've spoke on the a number of people at twitter in the past 24 hours who have left, some who have left, some who have left before, some who were concerned on the engineering side. i think the biggest issue is

inserting parts of the group -- in certain parents of the group, if something were to, quote, unquote break, something would need to be facilitated, whether the site stays up, and when i say "stays up," the site is not going away tomorrow or the next day. people yesterday seemed to think the entire site was going to break. i don't think that's the expectation. i think the sense is could there be a temporary hiccup where you try to get to twitter and it doesn't work for several hours? i think that's possible. i think he could accept that. i'm not saying it's good thing or a bad thing. i'm saying we've seen it with tesla. we've seen the fact that autopilot for a very long time has not necessarily worked properly. we've seen lots of component parts of the car not work exactly as planned. and he is one of these people who thinks that iteration in public or on broadway is an okay

way to approach management. i know there's lots of other pool who don't. >> okay. all right. well, i want to get to a couple of other stories you ear looking at, goldman sachs and the possibility of a recession or not. everyone wants to know where the economy is headed. and also amazon layoffs. could you update us on both those stories? >> the two things worth talking about, goldman sachs is now suggesting that there's a possibility that there could be a soft landing. we've been talking about is this a hard landing, a soft landing, what does that really look like. and i think that report is giving some people a little bit of hope. i have to say the stock market just opened up high they are morning, and what you're seeing right now is a sense that, again, this push/pull of does the fed pivot, do they not, do they pivot, this morning again we heard from another fed

governor that was suggesting that maybe things are getting better. yesterday we heard things maybe aren't getting better. again, maybe this is what makes a market. and talking about layoffs, there are more coming at amazon. again, when it comes to figuring out what unemployment looks like in this country, that could be a big issue. we probably won't know until january or february since those will be lagging indicators. >> cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much for all of that. coming up, we'll get an update from ukraine where days of missile strikes from russian forces are creating dire conditions for millions of ukrainians. plus, a federal judge quoted from george orwell's "1948" in his ruling to block a law signed by florida governor ron desantis. thanks, desantis. we'll explain that story just ahead. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala.

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party to have new blood and new invigoration and enthusiasm and new ideas. >> wow. house majority leader steny hoyer, the second highest ranking democrat revealing he is stepping down from leadership shortly after speaker pelosi made her future plans known. and house majority leader hoyer joins us now for his first interview since that announcement. it's great you came to "morning joe." we appreciate it. >> well, i'm big fans of yours as you know. >> aw. >> you've taken the time to come and talk to our leadership group. >> of course. >> i appreciate it. glad to be with you. >> i enjoyed that so much. so, why is it time? >> why is it time? well, i think for one thing when you're in the minority, it really is time to train people to be in the majority. i think we're going to take the majority back in 2024. i think that republican leadership is not going to be able to create unity and

purpose. ryan couldn't and bader couldn't and they both left because they couldn't. i think mccarthy will have a very, very tough time. but it's a good time to have new leaders come in in the minority and get their sea legs and make their positions known and to learn how to be a leader. so it seemed to me, yes, i could have been re-elected, but i'm not going to be there a lot longer. i kid people that i'm going to retire in 2036. i thought it was a good time. i think we have good people looking to get into office. of course i endorsed hakeem jeffries, an extraordinarily able guy, and i think he'll do an excellent job. >> probably easier to be in the leadership in the minority, isn't it, than -- >> that's my point. my point is in the minority --

a, i was minority whip for 12 years over the last 20, so i've been there, done that. but nobody writes when you're in the minority they lost by 8 or by 20. nobody really cared. you lose by one, everybody cares. it's a good time to get your sea legs and to get grounded and learn from your mistakes. we all make mistakes. from that standpoint, i thought it was -- and i'll still be on the appropriations committee and active. very frankly, i expect to be in the room a lot of times making decisions because i think they'll want theclyburn, who mae the same decision i did. >> between you, speaker, and mr. clyburn, there's decades worth of experience. are you worried about this new generational trail and the lack

of experience they have comparatively? >> well, they're very, very savvy people, those folks, and they've been elected to congress numerous times. they're not newcomers. i think -- we'll be around. nancy and i have not had any discussions about how long she's intending to stay. i've got some work to do, i want to do on the appropriations committee for my district and for the -- for america. but i think we'll be there to try and help them. >> yeah. >> but they'll be the leaders. they'll be the decisionmakers. it's like you being on the broadcast. the more you're there, the better you become. i think that's what'll happen there. >> so, before we went on the air, we were sitting in the break and you said there were -- i think it was two of the most consequential leaders you've ever worked with. >> john lewis and nancy pelosi. >> tell us -- >> well, i think first of all,

nancy being the first speaker is a historic fact in and of itself. >> first woman speaker of the house. >> but the more important fact is she probably is one of the most consequential speakers in history. >> yeah. >> i haven't analyzed all the speakers but clearly from my view, and i've been there now -- this is my 42nd year. >> wow. >> by far the most able and effective and productive speaker with whom i've served. you know, whether you -- the environmental acts she talked about. >> affordable health care. >> affordable health care, which we worked very closely on together. the four bills that we adopted in this session, extraordinary. four. even in the senate. and we got some help but very little on the infrastructure bill and the chips bill from republicans. my view is on the transportation

bill, if the republicans had not been told by their leadership vote no and don't give biden the victory, we would have had half the republicans. we got 13. on the chips bill, the chamber of commerce, labor, everybody knew that the chips bill was critically important if we're going to be competitive in the 21st century, and 24 republicans voted for that. i'll bet there were -- if they left to their own devices, half of them would have been with us. >> house majority leader steny hoyer, thanks for joining us. >> always good to be with you. up next, the latest from the war in ukraine. war in ukraine ♪ [laughing and giggling]

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the russians looted the museum. here is the vault where many of the more important paintings were kept. the russians did leave some paintings behind. in fact, they didn't seem interested in soviet era artwork. he didn't go with them but over here, just rack after rack, all of these empty vaults, they've been full of paintings, all gone. he's been the museum director for 30 years. what is it like for you to see these empty spaces? i was gathering this collection all my life she says. she tries to keep her composure. she doesn't want to cry on camera. do you know how pieces were looted from here? we thought it was around 10,000 but now with what i and my staff are seeing, it looks like more she says. before russia's invasion, the museum had one of the richest collections in ukraine with

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