right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the new regime. house republicans reveal their top priority once they take over. big hint, it's not fixing

inflation. >> the biden family swindled investors of hundreds of thousands of dollars. hunter biden isn't this innocent guy that just got a bad wrap. this is a big deal, we think. if we can get rid of hunter biden, that would be great. >> some republicans say no more blank checks for ukraine, even as russian missiles leave more than 10 million people without power. >> we want to audit ukraine. with the money we sent to ukraine, we could have secured our border. but we're not doing that. >> this as democrats make it official. their new leader will be new york congressman hakeem jeffriess. and the whip will be katherine clark. pete aguilar will make his bid to be caucus chair. north korea testing another icbm with a range that could reach the u.s. mainland. an intense blast of winter hits the great lakes. the latest on where it's headed and the state of emergency declared in buffalo, new york.

good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. after making inflation reduction their key campaign promise, house republicans now appear more interested in investigating the biden family. if he wins the speakership, kevin mccarthy will be put to the test whether he can wrangle the right flank of his party. joining me, peter baker and susan paige. also with us, carol lenig for "the washington post" and law professor joyce vance. peter, first to you. we have had divided government before. you covered it. what is it going to look like this time around? >> it's going to be ugly. we can anticipate that. it has always been ugly. in the past, there were at least some incentives for some

cooperation across the board. we saw back in the '90s that bill clinton and newt gingrich went at it. in the end, they agreed on welfare overhaul, on a balanced budget agreement. they did come to middle ground on some important legislation. we saw that with obama and john boehner tried to come to middle grounds on things. john boehner wanted to be somebody who would compromise and find ways to get things done. that's not the current incentive structure. for kevin mccarthy coming in with the narrowest majoriies and donald trump running for the white house, there's zero areas of compromise. the republicans won't have the ability to pass legislation because they don't have the senate. they will try to force things into appropriations bills that have to be signed. you risk closing the government. there will be a lot of that

going on. >> how significant, peter, is the changing of the guard on the democratic side? jim clyburn is moving down a notch, reportedly he wants the number four leadership position. writing today, he looks forward to, quote, doing whatever i can to assist our new generation of democratic leaders, which i hope to be hakeem jeffries and katherine clark. >> it's a moment of generational change. we have seen the same group of leaders on both sides of the aisle for quite a while. now nancy pelosi and hoyer and clyburn are saying, we understand there has to be room for the next generation. that puts pressure on president biden, who turns 80 on sunday and is talking about whether to run for another term or not. a lot of americans in polls suggest some discomfort with that, thinking it would be a good idea if he stepped down at the end of one term. i think nancy pelosi is setting the stage at the moment for a

shift to a younger leadership. >> susan, you and a group of journalists spoke to nancy pelosi yesterday after her speech. describe that and how she is. what did she tell you about her plans going forward? >> she said she was going to be delighted to go back to being the representative of her san francisco district. she portrayed herself as someone who she said rest is for other people. she clearly plans to be active. when we asked her if she -- what kind of advice she would give her successor, she insisted she would not be, as thanksgiving approaches, the mother-in-law who goes into the kitchen and tells her daughter-in-law, you are not making the stuffing right, that's not how we do that in this family. she will take a more hands off approach letting the new generation of leadership find their new way of leading, find their own way, their priorities over their manner of operating. we will see if -- i suspect she will give more advice than she

was indicating there. but she understands the need, i think, for her to let this new generation of leaders actually take charge and figure out how to move ahead. >> i love the imagery there, as a mother and grandmother, she sort of understands those family connections so well. carol, former president mike pence is on his book tour, as we know, looking to a potential 2024 run. i want to play what he said about testifying to the january 6th committee. >> i never stood in the way of senior members of my team cooperating with the committee and testifying. congress has no right to my testimony. >> you are closing the door on that? >> i'm closing the door on that. >> that was margaret brennan of cbs doing that interview. carol, is that a sign of things to come with republicans, with their new oversight now? >> i think pence's discussion of this is really interesting.

he is essentially saying, my guys told you everything you needed to know. the committee was a little bit -- took umbrage at his remarks. they felt they went out of their way to make it clear that he had been a person of bravery on january 6th. that he had taken great pains to stay in the chamber, to insist on getting the national guard up to the building to clear it of all the violence and all the protesters, and that he had also basically assumed the role of commander and chief because donald trump was in absentia on this critical moment. the committee was a little bit peeved to hear him say, they don't deserve my testimony. the truth is, time ran out for them. they were not going to get it. they were not going to be able to mount the legal challenge and see it to the end. there would have been a legal challenge. >> the other fact there, very

clearly, there's a lot that he could tell them about his communications with the president that the staff people could not give firsthand testimony to. joyce, as a law professor, tell us about the constitutional points here. he says congress has no right to his testimony. there is precedent of presidents and vice presidents testifying. i think of ford on the pardon, for instance. bill clinton testifying, of course, under subpoena. the nixon tapes. is he saying there's no legal requirement that he do so? >> i think what he is saying is what carol was talking about, that from a practical point of view, the committee is out of time to force him to testify. this notion that he is not obligated or that he doesn't have a duty to testify is really

something that makes no sense given his constitutional role in government. you know, even if that wasn't the case, even if it wasn't something the in the can force, it's something that pence could offer the american people. when you think about it as a prosecutor in a very common sense way, you can understand how essential his testimony is. if you have got a group that's planning a bank robbery and before they do it one of the guys talks to a friend and says, we would like you to help, here is what we're planning to do, and the friend says, sorry, i'm not interested in your bank robbery scheme, and then the group goes off and they attempt to commit the robbery and you are investigating after the fact. you want to talk to the friend who talked to the leader of the bank robbers. that friend can tell you about the criminal's state of mind, about what he had planned and what he didn't have planned. he is an essential witness. mike pence is an essential witness. he is a fact witness. i think if he were subpoenaed by the justice department in their investigation, there would be no

question that he would be obligated to appear. the fact that he is willing to sell a book but doesn't think he has an obligation to share what he knows with the american people really falls short of what we're entitled to expect from our elected officials. >> joyce, peter, susan, carol, thank you all so much. joining us now is democratic congressman josh gottheimer and republican congressman don bacon, both members of the bipartisan problem solvers caucus. happy post election days. take a deep breath. we know the outcome. congressman bacon, top republicans announcing they will focus on joe biden and his family, claiming corrupt dealings, targeting hunter biden, of course. what happened to the issues that the republicans ran on? like inflation and the economy. >> those issues will come up. you see one committee out of nine or ten.

that's their priority in the oversight committee. you will see from the farm bill. you will see on the defense committee priorities on the defense authorization. appropriations will get spending under control so work on inflation. homeland security will work on the border. you heard the priority of one committee, that was the oversight committee. i think we should make clear that's only -- it's important but the priority is inflation, energy independence and the border. republicans need to remind the voters, that's what we want to do. >> they did not do that in effect yesterday in real time. the oversight committee is going to grab a lot of not only attention, but it could really tie the white house in knots, congressman. i saw it happen before with benghazi and with all kinds of staffers having to pay for

lawyers. it grinds any white house to a halt. i watched it under obama and also under bill clinton. >> hopefully, president trump had two years of the same oversight. i think there's a balance. there has been a lack of oversight in my view this past two years. we have seldom called in -- the senate side has been different. there's a place for oversight. i would remind, this is the oversight committee. there's nine other committees that will be focused on these other priorities we have. i think it is incumbent upon kevin mccarthy that he stresses not just oversight, but we have to take care of the breakfast tables of inflation and energy independence. >> congressman gottheimer, what about that committee's work and the aggressive language that we are hearing from marjorie taylor

greene who will now not only have a seat at the table, but she's fighting for committee chair? is that going to make it harder for the bipartisan problem solvers to get work done if that's what is coming out of the republican majority? >> to don's point, you are always going to have people screaming from the wings. you get some of that in both parties. then, of course, we saw in the last congress, you get plenty of people like don and others in the problem solvers caucus who are interested in getting things done. we did get a bunch done from infrastructure to chips in china and building more manufacturing here, standing by our veterans. i think you will see more of that. we have issues we have to work through together on the debt ceiling, on energy, on standing up to china, the economy and

affordability. there's plenty of work to protect our homeland. it's a tight majority. there's a great opportunity for the problem solvers caucus to continue doing what we have done. work together, find common ground and get things done. >> kevin mccarthy, unlike steve scalise, was absent when speaker pelosi was giving her speech about stepping down. he said he was at a meeting. apparently, from reporting on the hill, he was at a meeting with stephen miller, who was widely believed to be one of the most ferocious partisans in the trump white house. what kind of message is he sending by not attending? >> i assume he was notified. speaker pelosi was doing her speech that she was going to step down as the speaker as the democratic leader. i didn't get that. we were in a meeting yesterday.

we heard the democrat side was going to hear speaker pelosi. we did not it was on the floor. i was surprised myself when she was -- we saw her on the floor giving her speech. i didn't know it. the republican leader of the problem solvers wasn't aware of it, brian fitzpatrick. there wasn't a lot of information on what the plan was. i don't really know what kevin mccarthy knew or didn't know. i do believe that speaker pelosi is an historical speaker. she's held control for a long time. i haven't agreed with a lot of her positions and the way she's conducted the house. but i admire the fact she's led so long as the speaker. i will say, i did not know she was going to be on the floor giving the speech. many other republicans did not know. it's possible kevin mccarthy did not know either. >> congressman gottheimer, what is your forecast of how this is going to work with such a narrow majority? does that bode well for working together, for meeting each other

to get things done? or not? >> i think the republicans are going to have to decide -- i know where don's head is on this. republicans have to decide if they want to sit at the table and work together, which means they have to bring democrats and republicans to the table and be willing to take 80% of what they want, not 100%, to get things done. we have work to do for the country. we have to keep doing it. you don't stop working for two years and obstruct. i believe -- this is the fundamental work of the problem solvers in the house and bipartisan members in the senate, to keep working and fighting for the folks we represent. i will leave it to their leadership to make that decision how they want to approach the next two years in the house. i'm hoping that you have a willing partner to look for places to work together. i think there are plenty of places. that's what the country wants. >> it's good to hear. >> i second josh on that.

he is right on board. he is a great leader on the democratic side. we need to work together. if you want to get legislation out of the senate, it takes people like working with josh and the problem solvers to get legislation bipartisan enough to pass the filibuster. josh has a good partner with me. we want to move our country forward. we have the best country in the world. we cannot be stuck in neutral. it takes bipartisanship to move our country forward. >> it's great to have a view from both parties here talking about it together. come back often. let's have progress reports. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. on alert. north korea firing what could be its most powerful missile with a range that could put the entire u.s. mainland in the strike zone. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts.

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tensions are escalating higher than usual after north korea test fired an intercontinental ballistic missile which landed near

japanese waters. the defense minister said it had the potential range to reach the entire u.s. mainland. the white house quickly condemning this launch saying it would take all necessary measures to guarantee the security. this appears to be one of north korea's most powerful missile launches. what can you tell us? >> reporter: this missile flew 620 miles toward japan at a high speed. at what they call a lofted trajectory. it was fired up instead of out to avoid over flying neighboring countries. officials are saying from the flight data they analyzed, they say this icbm could have the range to strike anywhere in the united states, which is why it's rin ing ringing alarm bells here. the u.s. had joint military drills with south korea and japan in response to this

launch. this has been a record year so far for north korean missile tests. yesterday, north korea's foreign minister warned of fiercer military responses if the u.s. continues to boost its security presence in the region. >> thank you so much. joining us now, victor chau, a professor at georgetown and former director of asian affairs at the national security council, and the former leader of nato. this escalating tensions, raising a chance of a possible nuclear test to be next. you have been forecasting that from kim jong-un. what does the leader want, other than attention? >> he wants attention. doing this in the midst of meetings in asia, it's a good opportunity to get attention. it's operational.

they are trying to perfect a long-range icbm capability. the reentry of the payload through the atmosphere back to earth, they still haven't demonstrated that. this is part of an operational effort to see that they can do these tests from stationary or mobile launchers. it's taking advantage of the fact that the united states is stretched with the war in ukraine as well as the situation with china and taiwan. so this is opportunistic. they feel like they have a lot of support from russia and china. russia and china will not support u.n. security council resolutions. they see the road ahead as really unobstructed in terms of continuing to press forward and make the u.s. security agenda that much more complex in the indo-pacific.

>> doesn't it -- admiral, doesn't it indicate that no matter what else happened between the talks of president biden and president xi, it has not led to either china giving some sort of message to north korea to kim to pull back, to stop this? they either have not -- don't want to or they can't. they don't have influence over him anymore. >> i think they have plenty of influence if they choose to exercise it. russia has a fair amount as well. let's face it, these authoritarian nations -- you can put iran into this category alongside syria, venezuela, a handful of other malfeasant actors in the wake of ukraine. at the moment, victor is right, china will not step up and help us. i think the best we can hope for is the fact that china really

has no desire to see a war on the korean peninsula. that would create waves of refugees into their country. kim would ultimately lose such a conflict. untold interactions in the international economy. i don't think china will let kim get too far out there. but he has become a cat's paw being used by beijing to annoy the west. >> victor, is there anything the u.s. can do? it keeps saying, we want to negotiate. is it -- is this a reaction to the joint military exercises? it actually preceded them. >> i don't think it's a reaction to the exercises. the biden administration is doing what they can in terms of a higher tempo of exercising in the region with south korea, with japan, trilaterally.

we know that these activities on the defense and deterrence side are important. they are good for allied cooperation and security. they are not going to stop the missile tests. the only thing that stops the tests is diplomacy, which is why the biden administration has been reaching out over the past two years to try to get a dialogue going. the north koreans are not answering the phone. they are not responding. it may take the seventh nuclear test we are waiting for for them to finish their cycle of operational maneuvers before they are ready to talk. that dialogue is really the only way to stop the testing. usually, as the admiral said, china and russia would be helpful. they would use their influence. they have clearly decoupled from the problem and said to the united states, this is your problem, even though it's happening in china's backyard. >> admiral, let me turn to

ukraine for a moment while we have you. russia continues to pound the infrastructure overnight again. 10 million people without power. it is winter. it's snowing. we also have this very unusual public dispute between president zelenskyy and the u.s. and the other allies about the origin of that missile attack -- or the strike, i should say, probably accidental, in poland. how does that get resolved? >> first of all, let's just pause and reflect on how difficult this moment is in ukraine. as you point out, 10 million people, that's a day in the united states, population adjusted people, where 80 million people don't have power. it's hard to comprehend the difficulty of that, particularly as winter unfolds. there's a word for what this

kind of essentially targeted against critical civilian infrastructure, it's a war crime. we are seeing it unfold. we should continue to call that out. in terms of the missile that landed in the polish field last week, i think there's less there than meets the eye. in all probability -- i'm going to go with u.s. intelligence and the u.s. president, who has opined on this, it appears as though it was a ukrainian air defense missile, an s300, that probably was shot against the russians and ended up flying after a russian missile, hit it, who knows exactly, more investigation to follow. the thing to bear in mind is that this is the fault of russia. this is because of their invasion, because of their attacks on critical infrastructure. that's the perpetrator.

i don't see a lot of daylight developing between the u.s. and ukraine on this one. >> thanks to both of you for your expertise. snowed under. states of emergency as a blizzard and bitter cold freeze parts of the nation with five feet of snow forecast. how everything from football to your thanksgiving travel could be impacted. that's next. stay with us on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. with fidelity income planning, a dedicated advisor can help you grow and protect your wealth, even when you're not working. they'll look at your full financial picture and help you create a flexible strategy designed to balance growth potential and guaranteed income. so you can stop worrying about the future and enjoy the life you've created. that's the planning effect. from fidelity. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva.

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heavy snowfall and bitter temperatures are pounding the great lakes region, forcing million of people to live under states of emergency. western new york is at a standstill. look at that snow. some areas facing snowfall that could reach five feet. you can see in the drifts, it already is. the storm is causing sunday's bills game against cleveland to be moved to detroit. we will have the latest in a moment. it looks like the snow is slowing down a little bit. they have enough to get cleared out, right? >> reporter: what you see behind us is what we think of as the aftermath of a snowstorm. but this is just the pause, if you will, in between layers of snow falling here. we are in the middle of a storm

expected to carry into sun sun. >> dale: -- sunday. the worst appears to hit south where i am in buffalo right now, particularly in an area in hamburg, new york. michigan is getting snow. 19 inches there. a dusting in ohio and pennsylvania. back here in buffalo, to the side of me, it's hard to see it, but there's a giant "go bills" carved into the snow. we had thunder snow last night. visibility has been a big issue. right now, it's clear here. it was sunny earlier. there have been periods where the visibility has pretty much gone away, which is something that is part of the threat in this snow system. it can be localized where right now, right here, it's clear. not far from where i am, snow continues to be falling at last check we had. we know now that they have

re-opened the streets but they have been recommending people stay inside and stay away from the outdoors if for no other reason than to stay warm. it's quite cold out here in addition to more snow we are expecting. >> stay warm. i'm sure there are lots of risks. people don't seem to be driving at least. buffalo knows how to deal with snow. it's one thing that people up there really are familiar with. thanks so much. bill karins joining us now. he says it's going to continue through sunday. >> if we call this a game, we would be at halftime. orchard park is where the bills play. that's the highest snowfall total we have seen so far, 36 inches. that was 11:00 a.m. it has been snowing since then. it started snowing at 7:00 p.m. last night. at 11:00 a.m., they had 36 inches. they had been getting two to three inches of snow per hour.

that's crazy even by buffalo standards. they can remove snow better than anywhere in the world. we have heard about vehicles stranded on interstate 90. that's one of the issues. they told tractor-trailer, they didn't want them jackknifing and blocking roads. plows are trying to keep up with this. it's very difficult. 13 million people that are included in this. we have winter storm warnings off of lake michigan. this area has been hit from buffalo down here to hamburg and erie, pennsylvania. we will get snow back towards cleveland. off of lake ontario, heavy snow around watertown, new york. two feet reported. here is the band off of lake erie. it's narrow. it's 15 miles wide. it's not everywhere is getting hit. that's what's weird and different about lake affect snow than other blizzards or nor'easters or a regular snowstorm. it's localized. the areas on the north side of buffalo have four inches of snow. south of buffalo is where we have the three feet of snow.

rochester, new york, will probably get two to three inches of snow from the lake affect. someone will end up with probably 60 inches of snow. this is the additional snowfall that the computers are saying on top of the three feet. we are thinking at least another 18 inches in this area. it's going to snow on and off -- the band is like a hose. it will move over this region for the next two to three days. it won't end until we get to monday. the last time we had something like this, the highest total was 65 inches. that was in 2014. we have a chance of beating that. >> that's really rough, especially going into thanksgiving week and people need supplies. they need to do food shopping. thank you very much, bill karins. american resistance. the new book exploring how some trump officials stopped the president from taking even more dangerous decisions during the trump years. that's next. you are watching "andrea

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donald trump is taking aim at the so-called deep state again, reviving his attack line as he launches his third presidential bid this week. a new book argues that during trump's presidency, it was, quote, the non-existent deep state that helped save the country or at least did their best to protect it. joining me is the author, david rothkopf. you are flipping the idea of the deep state and saying that these are the people who served as guardrails, military, professionals, diplomats and people like tony fauci. >> it happened time and time again. the term deep state was popularized for the same reason the term fake news was popularized. trump was threatened by the

truth, so he wanted to discredit it. he also understood -- people around him understood -- that there were people in the government loyal to the constitution, who followed their oaths and who were not loyal to one particular politician or party. those people made it hard for him to get what he wanted to get done done. so they began very early, even during the campaign, discrediting them and saying this was a conspiracy and they were unelected. these are public servants. they ensured that the trump administration ended up being much less disastrous than it could have been. >> in terms of the military, it has been well recorded that general milley, former defense secretary esper, pushed back against the insurrection act and letting the president on june 1st use the military, even

though there was confrontation. >> there was a turning point. he wanted to use them in a photo op. he got them across lafayette mark and milley said, i'm not going to let him use the military as a prop. esper felt the same way. they tried to push back this idea of dropping the 101st airborne division in to go after black lives matter. it was crazy. they did what they could to stop it. >> you talked about the muslim ban. that was, of course, the stephen miller policy that he was pushing. we have talked on the show a lot and earlier in the program today about how toxic he was. he was seen in kevin mccarthy's office just yesterday when nancy pelosi was giving her speech, ending her tenure, announcing she was ending her tenure as speaker, as democratic leader, i should say. she was not going to be the speaker any longer. a big change.

she's going back to being another congress member, not in the leadership. steve scalise was there. republican congressman don bacon said, they didn't announce she was going to do it. it was publically known because we were all reporting that that was a noon speech. they did announce it publically. in any case, what about steve miller advising kevin mccarthy right now? >> i think that should be a warning sign. stephen miller was one of a handful of people who was true believers around donald trump. he remains one of the few people who have come out the other side super close to trump. i think it says to you, kevin mccarthy is part of that trumpist group in the government. he will be taking direction to some extent from mar-a-lago. the fact that he was with stephen miller at the same time he was disrespecting speaker pelosi is particularly doubly

offensive. not only am i not going to show this woman some respect, but i am also going to send you a message that i'm going to be in the donald trump mode of republican. >> let's talk about the state department for a moment. during that whole ugly impeachment saga over ukraine, when the ambassador to ukraine was basically removed, who stood up -- a lot of people in the state department were concerned, from the foreign service, that mike pompeo did not stand up for her. he rolled over and let her be fired -- not fired, i should say removed from her post. >> there were people that quit the state department. senior level ambassadors quit because they didn't think pompeo was defending people there. the person who replaced her as the acting ambassador, bill taylor, ended up leaving. when he went into the

government, he said, i expect you to treat ukraine the following way. as soon as he saw that deal was broken, he said, i have to go. there were many people in addition to vinman who spoke up and got fired. the woman at the defense department who said you have to honor the congress' approval of the money who got fired. >> even though people in rewriting history later, talking about mike pompeo and others in the pentagon and national security council, even mark meadows, having an informal agreement to stop any military action during that transition period. let me talk about tony fauci. the role of tony fauci as we were hearing about ingesting dangerous products. >> he was part of a group of people that were constantly battling trump craziness around covid. from the very beginning, trump

wanted to downplay it. he wanted to suppress data. they had to come up with a way into coax him doing something sensible like the 15 days to stop the spread. they ended up coming up with 15 days because they didn't think he would approve 30. almost every department found themselves trying to come up with trump workarounds that a allowed them to respect him in his office as president but at the same time respect their oaths, not break the law, not do damage. it was a constant balancing act. >> the book is fascinating. we should point out that they stopped a lot of really bad things from happening. but at the same time, a lot of fine people left the state department, just could not stand it anymore, and justice department, you had major departments losing senior level professionals as a result of what was going on. >> significant brain drain,

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she calls him pop. the staff at the white house is busy preparing for what is sure to be an unforgettable affair. >> reporter: instead of saying "hail to the chief," they're saying here comes the bride at the white house this weekend. 28-year-old naomi biden, the first granddaughter of the president and first lady, is about to say i do to her longtime love, 25-year-old peter neil. the bride-to-be revealing on social media the venue will be the south lawn. michael is the former press secretary to first lady jill biden. >> it's going to be a wedding infused with a lot of love, a lot of laugher and traditions. >> reporter: white house weddings are rare. only 18 in u.s. history. the last time an immediate member of the first family got married here was 50 years ago when trisha nixon cox said i do

in the rose garden. but it was alice roosevelt's wedding that is considered the greatest in white house history. attended bid more than 1,000 people and dominating headlines for weeks. decades later in 1967, another unforgettable affair when daughter of lbj tied the knot in the east room. wowing her 500 guests in her satin gown, her groom in his military uniform. >> they say that home weddings are the nicest. if home happens to be the white house, so much the better. >> in 2008, today's jenna bush hager who married her love henry hager in texas, celebrated with a white house reception a month later. but you don't have to be related to the first family to get married here. about a decade ago, pete sousa, held his nuptials in the road

garden. anita mcbride says a white house wedding is always an event to remember. >> no matter how you may feel about a particular administration, you can't but be happy for a couple who is starting their lives and to have it happen at the white house, that's very unique and special part of history. >> reporter: it really is so incredibly uk. and the bidens are celebrating a lot this weekend. the president turns 80 on this sunday. the bidens are paying for everything and perhaps one of the most interesting parts, naomi and peter don't have to travel too far because they already live here at the white house. >> it really is a family. they haven't said who is officiating, right? >> reporter: they have not said who is officiating. they haven't said who has designed the bride's gown. we're working our sources trying to get to the bottom of. >> she's the first granddaughter

because john adams the second was married at the white house, but, actually, he was a grandson to a previous president john quincy adams, so he was the son of the current president, the sitting president. >> reporter: that's right. and i think, look, there are so many firsts. as you point out, first granddaughter, first wedding on the south lawn. i tried to take a peek and see if i could see any of the preparations. right now there are big trucks. so we anticipate that those are a part of the preps. but the entire staff here, andrea, we are getting the sense is all hands on deck to make this a perfect day. >> the mother of the bride is kathleen who of course was hunter biden's first wife. >> reporter: yes. she'll be here as well. >> you've got all the details covered. kristen welker. it will be great to be watching saturday "today." i'm sure by then you'll know the gown. >> i hope. >> thank you.

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