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from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome every day to alex what reports. we were begin with breaking news, new details in the chilling story from idaho where for college students were murdered under mysterious circumstances, now almost a week ago. authorities there are still looking for that killer and a possible motive behind the killings. joining me now embassy scottie short from idaho. gaudy this is a story we had to have to go over again and again but there are reasons to do so. what is the latest? >> well alex, the fear is building and this community. every day with this killer still on the loose, is that college town and so many students have opted to leave early because they just don't feel safe. meanwhile, authorities say reinforcements have arrived. there are over 100 local state and federal officers that have now been assigned to this case.

>> it's been nearly a week since police and moscow, idaho sealed off the scene of a gruesome murder. investigators are still collecting evidence. at one point friday, digging something out of the leaves in the backyard. the families of the victims, in disbelief that the killer for people is still on the loose. >> my husband is in contact with them every day, the fbi, moscow, idaho state police and every day, he just says nothing. >> now police confirming that the victims were attacked with a large knife, some had defensive wounds, some may have been killed in their sleep. and there was no sign of sexual assault. meanwhile, police remain tightlipped over why they can't share who called 9-1-1 around eight hours after the murders. telling us they have ruled out the scene near two of the victims in this video as a suspect, as well as to other females who are inside of the home but on hurt when the attacks happened. >> now that to remains have been ruled out conclusively, can you tell us if they were

the ones to call 9-1-1? >> so still, we will not release that information yet. that particular piece of information seems to be fueling a lot of conspiracies and making your jobs harder. >> that is correct, there are a lot of conspiracies out there, a lot of conjecture. however you know, we have to work on the facts. >> the most pressing facts are still in mystery. no matter weapon, no motive, not even a suspect description. devastating for the families of xander colonel, ethan, manny and katie gonzalez. praying for a and their grief. >> turn yourself in, you owe it to these mothers of these children, these fathers, these families. you are wrong. turn yourself in. >> and alex, we understand about 500 tips have come into police, police are asking for even more tips from the public. specifically about where those victims were. they are building a very specific timeline of evidence leading to their deaths.

we also understand that the school, does have class for the rest of the week and up until thanksgiving break, but again so many students have been leaving town early because they just do not feel safe. alex back to you. >> so gadi as i am listening to the story, listening to your reporting throughout the week on this, you have to wonder why is this so confounding? it is almost a week since these killings. why is this taking so long? they are getting tips but there seems to be nothing much new at all. >> that is absolutely right. not only that, there is been a lot of confusion. you might remember this whole thing started off and then you heard from the mayor say something about, a possible crime of passion. and then all of a sudden, those statements were walked back and when you talk to the families, they get very angry when they hear the idea of a crime of passion put out there. it is almost like there is a piece of information that comes out and then there is information that comes out a

little bit later that either backtrack that information or seems to take the investigation in a different direction. and unfortunately, a lot of this investigation is back where it started, five, to six days ago now. tonight will be a week since this happened. and that is no suspect, no murder weapon and no motive, alex? >> so again it will peppy for questions, i know you are not involved in that case but are there no security cameras anywhere that offer video of that particular house? i mean most houses especially in a school community, university community like that might have. that and also, how many departments are involved in this investigation? is it just a local police or have more been able to join this investigation? >> alex, question one and we have done the walk. this is a neighborhood where it is a lot of student housing. in fact, there is a couple of fraternities that i can see them from here. for the most part, it is student housing and it is not like your typical neighborhood

where everybody seems to have a ring camera. this is a lot of students here, so when you walk around you don't see those ring cameras or security cameras or a cameras on the front of houses. we do understand that there is at least one or two pieces of video that place and uber or a rideshare leaving some of these victims here before the murders took place. we just have not seen that video released. we did see the video from the food truck released but again, investigators are now saying that the person that was seen in that video close to the suspect has been ruled out as a suspect. >> okay last question, is that university property or is this all off campus housing that the university does not own? >> this is all off campus property and then campuses right there. i can see the hill of campus, probably 500 yards away. so it happen extremely close to the university here and again,

you know a lot of the students here have just opted to leave town since last week. because the killer is still on the loose, they don't feel safe. >> yes i'm sure their parents want them home. okay gaudy shorts thank you so much for taking the questions as well. let's go to politics now, and your reaction as a special counsel is appointed by attorney general merrick garland handled two major federal investigations, and to former president donald trump. special counsel jack smith went out overseeing that probes into trump's role in the january 6th attack. and a declassified documents that he kept at mar-a-lago. trump's former attorney general, bill barr giving his thoughts on what this could mean for his former boss. >> these are serious -- not a serious. i have said that, i personally think that they probably have the basis for legitimately indicting the president. >> the appointing of a special counsel comes days after trump denounced his third white house bid which has been drawn criticisms and being low energy, and quoting from conservatives. last hour, former senior white house official amorous and

mount neumann gave me her thoughts on the presidential announcement. >> it was so bad for anyone who is sitting there thinking okay donald trump is going to make a major comeback. this was a total let down, you can see that donald trump is not only vulnerable but i don't really think he is into. it hasn't the only reason that he announced is to give themselves some protection against the slew of investigations that he is facing right now. >> meanwhile, new reaction today as house speaker nancy pelosi prepares to step down as democratic leader and usher in a new generation to take the reins. as a new trio of democrats launched their bids for leadership positions, last hour democratic congressman seth moulton told me why he is endorsing hakeem jeffries to become the house democrats new leader. >> it is time for younger people that have a voice and a caucus and in the party, he's a great communicator. he is brilliant, he is smart. those are the things that i think we'll show through to the american people over time and i

think you will be a great leader for the caucus and party. >> a new legal victory for democrats ahead of next month's georgia senate runoff. a georgia judge has ruled to allow early voting next saturday for the race between democratic senator raphael warnock and republican herschel walker. warnock's campaign had spearheaded the lawsuit, which challenge state guidance that had initially prohibited voting on that day. for more, now on the special counsel appointment, nbc monica alba is at the white house for us. monika, another welcome to you. how much power will it have when it comes to determining whether donald trump should be charged? what is the read on that? d beso the special counsel jack smith, will have the ability to take all of the information and then come to a recommendation type of conclusion of what he thinks if he does believe that charges should be filed is a plausible here. but it will be up to attorney general merrick garland to ultimately signed off on that and move forward. there is still little ways to go here of course in these both

sprawling investigations when it comes to the timeline. but when we pull back the curtain a bit here on the selection of jack smith, this as somebody who goes all the way back to the eastern district of new york, working there. he also had it up the public integrity division for the department of justice in 2010. but most recently, he has been focusing on war crimes at the hague. this will be a new appointment for him of course, but he does bring this years of experience to the job and the reason the attorney general said that this was a critical moment to do this now it is really an attempt to insulate the department of justice from these attacks and calls of it being politically motivated which we are already hearing from people like the former president. the attorney general specifically and this press conference yesterday said that it was the 2024 factor that played a major role here. here is how he also explained how he views the special counsel's work in the weeks and months ahead. >> today, i signed an order

appointing jack smith to serve as special counsel. the order authorizes him to continue the ongoing investigation into both of the manners that i just described and to prosecute any federal crimes that may arise from those investigations. >> so that two investigations of course, the mar-a-lago documents case and the january six investigation. the fact that he is overseeing both, two very different kinds of investigations and january 61 for instance, a lot of that has already played out in public in terms of some of the people who have been held accountable for that as that continues and it involves so many key players. where is the mar-a-lago documents case has really been tied up in the courts. that is where you see the battle back and forth between the u.s. government and the former president. for his part mr. trump unsurprisingly reacted to all of this, calling it what he has done in terms of any criminal probe in the last couple of years saying ultimately it was a sort of which hunt and a hoax that he says is political motivated. take a listen to how we did react last night.

>> this horrendous abuse of power is the latest of a long series of witch hunts. they want to do bad things to the greatest movement in the history of our country. and particular, bad things to me but i have got used to it. this is a deal just as a 2020 election was rigged and we can't let them get away with it. >> the president there, former president repeating of course those falsehoods that he has continued to campaign on but again, the 2024 issue here that played a large role according to the attorney general. it is not just mr. trump, we are talking about here given the fact that the current president has indicated he may seek reelection as well. you will discuss it with his family over the holidays before making that final decision alex. >> i can't let you go that asking about the happy event underway as the president celebrating the wedding with his granddaughter at the white house. what can you tell us about that? do you know who is in attendance, name somebody we might recognize? >> absolutely alex, naomi biden

married peter neil on the south lawn in an 11 am ceremony this morning. we started to see our first photos just a little bit ago was really a giant white aisle that you can see coming from the south portico doors all the way to about halfway down on the south lawn. this was an outdoor event with about 150 people, and then after the outdoor portion, i am told a select group of the family and friends moved inside for a luncheon and then later this evening, there will be a reception and some deserts and some dancing and more black tie affair and what you would expect from a wedding. i have to tell you, the couple has chosen to make this a very private event. they are not sharing a ton of different details so we don't know fully who is on the guest list beyond of course the president, first lady, they are very close friends and family. how you can expect and i'm also told that they are all gathering here and together and not just celebrating these nuptials today but there will also be a form of celebration for the president who tomorrow

turns 80 years old. >> definitely a big week, let me just say this, i can understand wanting privacy for the wedding but i say people like you are thinking yes but that is america's house behind you. and it's not just her own house for things and people are wishing that they would've given a little more access for the media because who does not like to celebrate a wedding? that is awesome anyways, thank you monica for that report and appreciate that. let's go now back to the special counsel story. my next guest has been all over that story is a senior legal affairs reporting with political. josh christine is joining me right now. josh, first up what is the latest in this? what are you hearing from your sources today? >> well you know definitely a new chapter in the investigations alex. the investigations have been moving forward, both the one at mar-a-lago and the issue of january six and the presidents efforts to over to the former presidents efforts i should say, to overturn the 2020 election results. there has been a lot of activity and both of those

investigations over the last couple of months in terms of grand juries, subpoenas, people being questioned. privilege, executive, privileged fights going on. and so we are waiting for mr. smith to come to washington, if i can use that phrase. back from the hague, add a bit of a bike accident in the last few days. so that delayed his return and made him unable to appear with garland. but we think you will sort of slip right in over the existing apparatus alex. that is somewhat different than other special counsel investigations in the past. >> i have not heard about the bike accident, is he doing okay? >> i think he broke his knee or did something quite bad to his knee and had to have surgery but we are told that he should be able to come back to washington within a few days. >> yikes, i hope he is better seen cars that hurts. what does it mean overall josh to have a special counsel assigned to these cases? and i guess the question is this. as the investigation any different from the day before he came on board?

>> i think that merrick garland is hoping that whatever final decision the justice department reaches which is ultimately his decision, you know we'll have a degree is monaco's saying earlier, a degree of additional credibility and insulation for having and vogt this procedure. i think that is what's held. i don't think the investigation is changed very much, as i was alluding to earlier and other investigations like the mueller investigation for example. we really saw almost a wholesale overhaul of the people that have been handling these investigations. when the special counsel came in, he hired a team of about a dozen to 15 lawyers, they got a new crop of fbi agents beyond the ones who have been working on the case for months already at that point. the signals we are getting from the justice department is that that is not how this will work. with special counsel smith, that he will simply come in as a new supervisor, for the existing team. you can kind of see that or hear that in what attorney general garland said yesterday,

where he talked about he did not think there was any impropriety with the people who are currently working on the cases that they have done strong word any sort of expected them to continue to work on these. >> josh, article says that garland did not say was specificity why he appointed as special counsel. was he intentionally being vague? do you, did you get a clear sense of what direction the investigations will go and next? >> well i think he was being intentionally vague a little bit, it's a vague standard to be fair about the credibility of that department essentially. and what would appear to be a conflict of interest. i think he may not want it to who have gave a lot of detail reason why because of concerns that in other sensitive cases, the department might be handling. somebody say what you did it here but you did not do it here and this is the exact reason. he sort of made general comments about integrity and appearances and he did as we were just discussing talk about former president trump's

decision to announce for president. it's quite interesting, so many pundits have said that would have no effect whatsoever on garland's decision. and he cited it pretty prominently yesterday as one of the reasons that spurred him to make this announcement. >> yes okay, political structure good to see you josh. thank you so much and coming up in just a few minutes, we will have the atlantic's mark leibovitz -- and they will discuss the consequences of naming a special counsel on donald trump 's presidential run and honest potential republican rivals. let's go now to the breaking news the massive snowstorm burying western new york today. look at that, buffalo area residents are certainly digging out from a record dump of about six feet of snow, which is triggered some major road closures and flight cancellations of course just days before thanksgiving holiday. and you see marissa power is joining us now from orchard park, of course where the buffalo bills play. though not today, not this weekend. >> no, indeed. weekend.and back before we saw e

first snowflakes fall, they move that came to detroit. so they were thinking smart because as you can see, there is a lot of cleanup being done. i will step out of the way so that you can see for yourself. that snow that they are dumping over there is probably a mixture of snow on the roads around here. as well as probably some snow from the stadium. and if you have been watching the buffalo bills twitter account, you will get a kick out of some of the videos from inside of the stadium. they made the right moves to clear numbers obviously underway here and in terms of what things look like when everybody woke up, we all got a fresh coat of snow overnight. but right now the bands are really bad in the north. now the big concern of course is getting those roads clear, still asking people to travel bans, travel advisories all throughout erie county. kind of depends on where specifically because these guys need to do their job. last, night we acted a chance to speak to somebody and one of the neighborhoods i mean it was miles long of cars that were either stranded or stuck. the neighbor we spoke to was not too happy. >> it irritates me because the

plows can get through, the roads are not being plowed. because of the traffic. >> that impacts you. >> oh yes, and that's everybody. impacts everybody, especially emergency vehicles. as on ambulance calls to hear about an hour ago and he was sliding all over the road and he almost got stuck in the riots. that is terrible. what if it's a life you know situation. >> i will leave you with one piece of good news, the orchard park police chief is telling our affiliate that officers are going around to the homes of players with the buffalo bills to get them out of their homes which got almost seven feet of snow by the way, and got to the airport so they can make it to tomorrow's game in detroit. back to you. >> those flights are camera sapporo thank you so much. and coming up for all of you, here is the question, if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear, it doesn't make a sound? and if so, someone decides to run for president and fewer people want him to, does he have any real impact.

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of the investigation and ultimately a decision on whether or not donald trump should face criminal charges. related to ongoing department of justice investigations, related to classified and other government documents found at mar-a-lago or related to efforts to interfere with the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 election and on january six. and trump is not happy about it. >> they corrupt and highly political justice department -- , a super radical left special counsel that are referred to as a special prosecutor to start the process all over again. with thought it was just about this. as you know, just about the top person and one of the top people in the justice department, lisa monaco a major trump hater. major i mean beyond belief.

is in charge of the case. >> well joining me now alexia mcallen, axles political reported emerson political contributor and marc lipa vote, staff writer at the atlantic msnbc political contributor and author of thank you for your service to donald trump's washington, and the price a submission. which is just a great book. all right so alexei, what is the latest today? do we know when the work first of all begins for the special counsel and how quickly jack smith intends to get on the job? though josh christine just told me that he had some sort of a bike accident, broke his knee maybe? so that might delay things a bit. >> right, i was listening to that bit with josh that you just have and that was news to me. josh said he would be able to make it back to washington as special counsel within a few days. like merrick garland has said previously that appointing this special counsel would not slow down the investigation and any sense. it would not change the timeline, there is still tracking to move at the same pace as before and i know i think the appointment of the

special counsel is especially interesting when you consider that garland himself is a judge who is nonpartisan. he is really going out of his way to make sure that this situation is as transparent and impartial as possible. and so when this is all done, hopefully that is the view of how this has been carried out. but you've seen how this is already been politicized by the former president and some of his allies here in washington. >> i am curious mark what kind of outcome are you hoping or expecting to see from the special counsel? >> well i mean i think this will take a while, i don't know if this would delay any longer than it would have if it stayed in the justice department indications, and concerns are that it wouldn't indications and i might not an obviously the justice department is done a lot of these legwork second pretty seamlessly and go over to the special counsel's office. know this gives the administration, this gives the justice department one step of removed from charges of political light station. obviously, you can't eliminate

those and this is their first move. you saw what trump said last night but like this is dicey and special councils are extremely you know and power they have all kinds of freedom, all kinds of budget usually and donald trump, obviously has firsthand experience with this and is not happy about it. so i think everything i know about jack smith that i've learned basically in the last 24 hours is that he is really by the book, he is pretty darn good and probably more relentless than robert mueller at this point. there are people leave privately on both sides this is a good choice. this will take for a long time and probably go into the 2024 cycle and a lot more than it already is and this will just add another reboot to this whole thing. >> a couple of things, to use the word dicey and icy for? who is a dicey for merrick garland and secondly, harry lippman told me in the last hour and he is pretty shrewd legal mind. he said i think it'll only take

a couple or three months. do you think that is not possible? >> based on what the doj is already done and you add in the 16 committee information, all the research that they haven't all the things they have proven and he thinks that they could make it wrapped up quickly? >> it is conceivable but these transitions don't happened seamlessly. it takes a while to staff approximately smith will do a lot of his own interviewing and want to do is own investigating. that 16 committee is still active so he has a big portfolio. between 16 and the documents, that is a very, very big you know couple of chunks to bite off. so you know the bike accident aside, i assume that it will take longer than that but harry lippman is smarter than i am. >> really quick, dicey for merrick garland at all? >> trump, trump. that is the situation for garland no matter what but i would say trump. >> okay i want to talk about speaking of trump, tony toward for announcement with you alexei.

the widespread character a station that was low energy. what is this whole no frills thing? was that the strategy decision, stick to the script? keep it safe because that is definitely not trump style. i mean is that why his performance was lackluster? we are not used to seeing that from that particular man? >> i mean i don't know if you sat there and watched it like i did but i sat and watched it and it was low energy in the sense that he wasn't doing when he normally does. he was not attacking people are calling people names. he wasn't railing against people or institutions the entire time. he did a couple of times but he largely focused on policy. he focused on trying to create a contrast between his vision on things like immigration and border security and the economy with what he's seen from president biden. i won when he said that democrats want to focus on the threat of climate change and not focus enough on the threat of nuclear weapons. so he really was low energy

because he was taken to the teleprompter, sticking to a script and you see at the same time what he is posting on truth social, which is how we actually feels in the way that he actually wants to talk. and so i think the more that he gets out, there are the more interviews that he does in the more rallies that we will see that trump that we are used to especially for republicans jump in the primary field and start to present some sort of threat to his candidacy. >> there is a less out their market as from the washington post. republicans have publicly said they will not support his 2024 bid, congressman mo brooks governor kristi noem, mike pompeo, nick mulvaney. when you talk to republicans for your book, first of most of them slam trump privately right but they would not go public? and when you asked what is the plan for 2024, you've got some really interesting responses. tell us about it. >> oh yes i mean they don't have any response. if they were serious about, this more than would put their name on some of the private concerns that we have been hearing about in the last two weeks. right it is just, yes we have a

list up there but this anybody actually asked mike pence would you vote for donald trump or joe biden or bill barr was asked the same question yesterday. he actually would not rule out voted for donald trump which is right after he said that he thought the justice department had enough stuff to indict him on. so take that with a grain of salt, and look these are cowards. this is what i wrote the book about. and i don't want to plug the buck, i do want to plug the book. i will plug the book. these are cowards but it plays out in silence and some ways. plays out in a vacuum where everybody says donald trump has lost his lost and he is not new and exciting anymore. people don't fear him as much and if they don't fear him you know why isn't congressman x or senator y who privately say they have no use for him anymore, why aren't they saying it publicly? i won't think that this time isn't a different and that this fever has broken anymore than it has before until people start you know sort of stepping up and publicly and more

frontal talking about how they are concerned about him being at the top of the ticket for a third election in a row. >> really quick, at least four major gop donor saying we will not support him anymore. it does not mean he will not continue breaking in the cash? or do you think he will? >> well it doesn't help, it is not like he, there was no one better for free media than donald trump. he did not spend that much money in 2016, managed to get more coverage than he and he got so much coverage, it was not a problem. so look it is a bad pr hit, it is a bad look but i don't think it ultimately bothers him or affects his ability -- >> let me ask oleksiy before we wrap this thing up. trump and from that last night, carry like was visiting mar-a-lago. not ex her lost to katie hobbs and the governor toil race. but as donald trump looking to her as a potential running mate? are you hearing any whispers at all of that? if not over to comments? >> yes, even weeks and months

before the general election, republicans and democrats alike that i spoke to were floating her name for a potential vice presidential candidate, recognizing sort of the political talent that she has to offer what some say is a more palatable version of trump's maga politics. and so i think are going down to mar-a-lago to see trump, refusing to concede our own election, that really fits into that brand that they want to continue into 2024. which is casting doubt on the administration process, our outcomes and keeping arizona and particular sort of ground zero for election deniers. >> interesting, alexei mark, good to see you both thank you guys so much. so who walks in when she walks out? which way the wind is blowing and the cannon house office building. we will show you. ill show you the first-ever all-electric chevy silverado rst. with a multi-flex midgate for extra storage. and an available 400 miles of range on a full charge. evs for everyone, everywhere.

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republicans current to energy than 18 seats already clinched our control of the lower chamber earlier this week. three races in california, one each in colorado and alaska have yet to be called, where most of the votes yet to be counted our mail-in ballots. and the colorado race, a democrat alum fresh conceded to republican incumbent, lauren boebert on friday. also new today, even though thousands of votes have yet to be counted nationwide, the soon to be gop house majority is already planning a list of investigations, centered on the biden administration. >> the focus on that judiciary committee, the committee of the justice department and the linkage now to what was happening with 100 biden stories. >> we also want to get to the bottom of the origination of covid-19. >> i'm happy doctor fauci is retiring, it'll give a lot of time for him to sit in our committees. >> we can impeach secretary mayorkas. we can't impeach marin garland. >> the majority is everything, even if it's a one seat majority, it's everything and

it gives you all of the chairmanship's. gives us the ability to subpoena, to look into the administration. oversight and all of it. and so yeah things will change. >> let's bring in elena tree, congressional reporter for axios. welcome and what does it say to you about the incoming majority that they're calling for all of these investigations right off of the bat? >> well alex we knew this was coming and they have been meticulously planning these investigations for months now. and they're all greenlit by kevin mccarthy was expected if he can reach 218 votes to become the next house speaker. and there are so many, i mean one thing that i've talked with a lot of republicans on the hill about is there are so many different investigations that they want to launch. some people have probably admitted that they will only have so many resources and time to get through all of them. the ones that you laid out are really the priorities for them. tim jordan, he is expected to be the next chairman of the judiciary committee.

he is very aggressively ready to launch his investigations, fbi and alleged penalize a shun is at the top of that list. of course the oversight want to focus on hunter biden, the president sign and what they think are in their words, shady business schemes. and a lot of other things, the afghanistan withdrawal. covid funding as well as funding for ukraine. no list goes on and on and so i think a bad thing that they will have to think about is where will we prioritize our attention and resources and also you know, which ones are going to get the full red carpet? part of this of course is really about messaging and having this big show for the american public. they wanted these to be televised. they want to drag in a lot of these officials, former officials and people like anthony fauci to come before them and to televise it. a lot of this as well people say, republicans say is that they want those to be like the january six committee hearings. they want the full attention, they want the cable news

networks to be covering this wall-to-wall. coverage and we will see, we will see how much they end up doing and how much of this really does get that kind of coverage. it is really a main focus for the top members of the party. >> is this also something that is required of majority leader hopeful, kevin mccarthy? does he have to greenlight these investigations in order to become the majority leader? >> yes, definitely. especially just given the narrow margins. of course, republicans have been hoping to gain far more seats, they had predicted you know 30 plus seats for a potential majority. that clearly the not happen and he is going to need to make over the next several weeks, major concessions to the far-right flank of the house gop an order to secure their votes and reach 218 which is needed to become speaker. and already, he has had discussions. people like marjorie taylor greene who have come out and been a really fierce ally in

the founder of him and people like, are expecting to be rewarded in many ways. some of these prime seats on these committees. >> that is far right, however not every member of the gop houses on board with these biden investigations. let's take a listen to that. >> i am not interested in playing tit-for-tat. i'm not interested and retaliation. impeachment has been weaponized over the years and we have seen that. i really want us to be focus on the economy. >> we need to get things done on behalf of the american people and the residents of each of our districts who sent us here. >> my constituents not send me here to waste time, they sent me her to work. although there are the party and parts of the party want to go into these investigations, that is their prerogative. i'm here to deliver results, i'm here to deliver prosperity. i'm here to defend the american dream. >> what are the chances of those massive just getting through the gop leadership? >> it's a great question alex in the, now it is difficult. i do think that having the

underwhelming that's republicans had last week, and the midterm elections does make these members cases stronger. they recognize that the overtly political and partisan environment right now and congressman throughout washington is not really playing as well as they thought from an election standpoint. and so it's a good. point and i do know that many people and that there was a lot of talk of impeachment and the several months getting up to the elections. we heard nancy mace say that she is against those climbs. i know that from the conversation i've been having with people now held a lot of republicans and even the most conservative firebrands are moving away from impeachment. and at the same time, the people will be cheering these committees like jim jordan on the judiciary committee, they have been out for blood for a very long time. they will be the ones calling these investigations. >> okay elena train, thank you for the preview. meantime, waiting to exhale and in arizona you can breathe again, especially after seeing a headline like this one.

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support from the former president donald trump as she visited mar-a-lago. >> there were a lot of -- who heard that and lots of things that happen to be largely republican areas and what happened there is a disgrace. but i want to just tell you that you did some job carrie and i know it is not over yet. >> by the way the washington post fact check that particular fact and said that is not the case and largely republican districts however joining me now arizona congressman, reuben gallego, a democratic member of the house armed services and natural resources committee. always good to see my friend, question is do you think kari lake really believes that there was fraud in this election? or is this some kind of a political ploy to stay in the headlines, please donald trump, what do you think? >> well i don't know, you have to choose you want to be don and you know there was massive fraud than you have to be don. or you have to be an exploiter which is what she is because she's trying to take people's hard money to mount this fake legal campaign which is not going to go anywhere. so either way in mix or all

together a loser. because she can accept that she lost because she just wants to create and move out of this drama. i want to sucker more people out of their money here in arizona and across the country for a cause that is not nearly anywhere near basic truth. and again, it's a way for her to keep funneling money and keep the drama going. >> why is ours on become such a hotbed for election conspiracy theories his last three years? more election the nine candidates are, i'm demands taking up ballot boxes. election and maricopa county receiving death threats. i mean do arizonian's really up an appetite for any of this? >> no that is why most in almost all the election dyers lost this year. the reason this has happened because arizona used to be a ruby red state. what happens over the last ten years, many of us have work to turn this day into a more moderate blue state. and instead of you know these republicans reacting to that and irrational manner by trying to moderate themselves, the

only thing they can actually come up with is that it's a conspiracy theory because the other option is that they actually have to start being you know more towards the mccain leave of the party which they can. this is an excuse for them to continue to lose elections. they have lost elections in arizona for the last three cycles. continue at the same time to take money from a lot of suckers who you know will just, can you give them five or $10 a month for all of these fake audits and all of these fake legal reasons. and again they get to keep blaming other people besides themselves, start looking inwardly and saying like you know what. maybe we suck at politics. >> okay take a look together at georgia the senate runoff there. how critical is that 51st seat for democrats, the way things currently stand how reliable our democratic vote is arizona senator kirsten sinema. if she is not reliable, does that now make georgia all the more important for democrats? >> yes, i found at the put any money on kyrsten sinema, are the most reliable thing about her is that she is unreliable

but when it comes to somebody that really matters, the reason why we want a 51st senator and not just with vice president kamala harris is that it actually shakes up the committee assignments. now we are able to push more of our judges that we want through and not have to be slowed down by the senatorial process. that is why we want to know reverend warnock to win, his election will suit to be able to help us on judicial nominations under general for all of the other committees. it'll be easier for us to get things passed. >> yes well as speaker pelosi steps down from the house democratic leadership, there is a new garden taking shape. we have new york king jeffries announcing his bid to become the next democratic leader of massachusetts representative catherine clark. california pete aguilar, they also included their attention surrender leadership positions. do any of your support congressman? how significant an impact do you think new leadership will have on this party? >> they do have my support, i think we have a very talented group of leaders and they

really represent every walk of life in america. from every different type of background, i think they are going to really be able to step up and lead us in a very contested environment which is going to be hard, both for democrats and republicans. i think it is also really good message to the rest of the country that democratic party has young leadership, young leadership that really understands america and it will fight for that. >> you know, as democrats are preparing for a republican -controlled house, albeit by a slim majority is look at this happens all of the, time don't about it. the noise of the background. >> my son is running around. >> no it is all good. are there bipartisan issues that can get passed and if so, what do you think they are? >> actually there's a lot of bipartisan that can get passed and if you want, to we can just get past some of the rules that the republicans have. and so republicans will not allow a lot of big bipartisan votes to pass because they have this rule that if you cannot pass the other caucus with democratic votes and they will not get to the floor.

we can work on you know furthering -- on health insurance. helping get done with the congress no forum with helping out with the dream act. there is a touch on things we can be doing in terms of child priority. one second, son come over here. apologize. >> no, i was hoping to have him come over here. >> son, come over here. are you okay? okay the video, it is on can you give me one minute. >> hi sam. hi sam. >> okay, can you give me one minute? i will fix the video that i've done, i promise. sorry. >> it's okay. you know what? >> childcare by the way. we need childcare the bipartisan would be great and very helpful. >> a perfect wrap up to this, i hope you have a great holiday weekend with your family. sam is adorable, thank you for your time and we will talk to you again soon. >> bye, is a great. get >> all right, it is going

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will have enough diesel fuel to make it through the winter? >> while hopefully, i believe there will be but the east coast really faces ships and shortages and low inventories. so we are keeping a close eye on that. >> okay, you heard it there. the treasury chakra terry acknowledging the shortages in these. all that feel that is the times puts, it powers the economy. the national average for the cost of a gallon of diesel is now 5:32, that is up from three 65 last year. joining me now, mark zandi, chief economist with moody's analytics. mark always get the shovel etiquette into this because they just said we believe there will be enough diesel that will

last through the winter but recognize there could be some shortages, particularly on the east coast. what does this signal to you? should we be concerned? >> yes, alex it's a problem and let's get back to a number of reasons for it, it goes back to the russian invasion of ukraine. the disruptions to pushing oil supplies and refined product. and as you can imagine it's a much bigger problem in europe, the shortage of diesel as much more severe but because it's a global market, and we are exporting these are from here to there, it is rivaling upheaval prices here as well. it is a problem and not only about enough food prices, a big cost of getting food from the farms and the store shelf is the cost of transportation. that is diesel, shimmy factors to get. also meeting about a fourth or maybe a fit of households in the northeast. that use diesel to heat their homes during the winter and obviously it's getting cold outside. so this is a problem. >> i know you market and looking ahead to the newly

elected congress, you noted in a recent op-ed that if the economy suffers a recession as it's widely anticipated, lawmakers will not step up to question the downturn. why do you expect the next two years of economic policy to be such a disaster? that is my interpretation listening to that. how do you think it'll be different from the past couple of years? >> yes it doesn't have to be a disaster but you know history is a guide here right? go back to previous periods when we've had divided government under obama and back in 2011 and 13. republican congress and you know the best that it comes out of that kind of environment is no legislation, obviously we have big problems and can't address any of those and divided government. we have other issues and you mention that problem if we get into another recession then lawmakers generally respond but that divided government becomes a lot more difficult and the economy is on its own. the only supporter can get is from the federal reserve. also point out to other things that i think are probably more

significant and more likely and that is bringing the government over funding and the potential for a shutdown. that is coming pretty soon and then of course, the deadline and we've talked about this a few times over the past four years and days is that is a big deal to. it feels like lawmakers kind of get it together at the last moment but you know it is not any way to run the government and the risk is that they don't get it together and they breached that death on it. >> they get to the 11th hour and then some. and let me ask you because analysts keep talking about the prospect of a recession and yet, americans keep spending their money. will that keep us out of a recession? what are your thoughts, give me a percentage likelihood that we could be getting into one? >> i'll thank you alex for that. it's a close call. >> putting you on the spot, great. >> it's a very close call but i think the economy has a fighting chance to get there

without suffering an economic downturn. it goes to the very thing that you just, at the american consumer. they consumer as the fire wall between an economy that continues to grow and when that goes into a recession. and right now they're consumer you know they are not spending with abandon. that is not what's happening but they are spending, just enough to keep the economy moving forward. and with good reason, unemployment is low and lots of jobs and lots of excess, saving god for middle income, high income households both during the pandemic. leverages low and the almost a lot of people locked in the previous interest rates. i think that they can navigate through and we can avoid a recession but -- alex i mean under any scenario and recession, no recession it'll be a tough economy in 2023. we have high inflation, and the feds are working hard to get that in by raising interest rates and so it will be difficult. >> i always appreciate your candor in expertise, and that kind of want to let you go though after that last question. you don't have a choice, i have to go. i have to go. >> i do not give you an exact

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