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i'm yasmin vossoughian, coming to you live from los angeles today. we are following the latest fallout from the bombshell decision to name a special counsel to take over the federal investigation for donald trump. >> based on recent developments, including the former presidents announcement that he is a candidate for president in the next election, and the sitting president stated intention to be a candidate as well, i have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel. >> i've proven to be one of the most honest and innocent people ever in our country.
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>> plus, new information in the mysterious murder of more college students, in idaho, buffalo, under siege as well from a massive snowstorm, that is not ending anytime soon. and demands for action against ticketmaster after a tillerson tour snafu that left millions of fans crying foul. i talked to one legislator trying to do something about, that conversation is coming up. we do want to start though with ag garland. making it official. appointing jack smith at special counsel, to oversee the doj's investigation of president trump. those probes surround trump's handling of classified documents, found at his mar-a-lago home as well his role in the january 6th attack, and efforts to overturn the 2020 election that he lost. i bring in cnbc reporter jonathan allen, and an msnbc analyst -- thanks for joining us on this. jonathan, bring us up to date on where we are with the
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appointment of a special counsel. and what we know specifically about jackson. >> i think it's a very clear indication here, from mayor garland, there's basically two investigations that jackson will receive. one is related to potential crimes with the effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power, on january 6th riots, and the events leading up to it. and the other is this classified and sensitive documents case, that i have been filing with the fbi, and raided mar-a-lago documents sort of filing that for a long time. jackson at the somebody who was the leader of the justice department for a long time, his prosecuted warm war crimes, got a good reputation in washington, and sort of crosses the political spectrum. kind of a buy the book guy, not known for giving any political opinions on anything. the justice department's integrity, known for going
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after everybody pretty equally. >> talk to me about what the appointment of a special counsel actually means, right? there's some legal experts that are essentially saying this is basically the first step in charges. what do you make of that? >> well, it's an unusual situation, and since we've all lived through the mueller investigation, it's tough to avoid that comparison. but this in many ways is different. the most important difference is trump is no longer a sitting president. which means the deluge a policy that barr's indictment of a sitting president will not be in play here. but appointing a special counsel, what garland really does is he removes the day today investigation decisions. how things will proceed. what leads will be followed. which witnesses will be summoned to the grand jury. those will all be in jacks myths hands. he is not a political appointee, unlike the attorney general or the u.s. attorney in the
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district of columbia. and what one hopes is the reasonable people, because look, there's a certain segment of the population, you just can't be reached, but reasonable people will see that garland has relinquished control over these day-to-day sorts of decisions, and in light of the fact that both trump and joe biden have announced that they intend to run for president, that's that sort of step back that is important to doj when it maintains integrity and in an investigation. >> with republicans, jonathan, now, in control of the house, is there a worry that with the appointment of a special counsel, republicans could also try to slow walk this investigation or get in the way of what the doj is doing? steve bannon talks about wanting to defund the doj. >> they could shut down the government. to try to defund the doj, but that is about it. republicans do not have the ability to pass bills on their
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own in congress, having taken the house. so with democrats in control of the senate, and democrats in control of the white house, it will be difficult to do that. to try to shape this investigation. we may be even able to see this investigation because there is an emergency, you, know emergency powers conducive to operating the government, shut down, you might even see this continue to operate if that happens, probably would. so, they don't have a lot of ability to affect it. but what they will do is turn the investigations on joe biden. expect us -- especially the house to look into hunter biden, and continue to hear from republicans who say, if there is a special counsel, to investigate trump. because both of these candidates, there should be a special counsel to investigate hunter biden. >> i want to read for you, joyce, from the wapo it's a toria board, talking about the risks that they put out their, about the special counsel. appointing the special counsel
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carries, risks not least a possibility that the investigation could drag out a lose focus, potentially letting mr. trump off the hook. it will take tremendous focus to prevent that from happening. is that a possibility? >> so look, the special counsel process is a fraud, and we no longer operate under the pre-1999 independent counsel regulations. which gave a special counsel a lot more latitude. their role is more constrained. jack will have to operate within the guidelines set forth by the attorney general, in the order that establishes him in office. could he delay, i guess, is the other side of that question. and i want to stress that's not the goal here. something i think gets a little bit lost in the eighth of the moment, is the fact that, you know, we've got smith coming to take this job, leaving a position, and prosecuting war crimes that he reportedly was very, very focused on. we've got other prosecutors
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leaving jobs, either in private practice, or in u.s. attorneys offices. in the middle part of the country, taking over this case. these are not people who are showing up to try to slow walk an investigation. and when smith says in his an -- announcement, that he intends to go forward without missing a beat, i think we can take him at his word. certainly, he's been through the wringer on this investigation. we should certainly all watch critically, to see what the next steps are. but all signs, right now, or very positive, that this will move forward as quickly as possible. >> and you quoted jack smith there. let me read you what he said, verbatim here, to understand the pace of the investigations, they will not, pause or flag under my watch. i will exercise independent judgment. and we'll move the investigations forward, expeditiously and thoroughly, to whatever outcome the facts and law dictate. joyce, vance, i'm going to take a bit, and ask you to stick around for a bit. republicans, officially taking control of the house in january. and they are wasting no time
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outlining their very first order of business. investigating hunter biden. it all comes as the fourth ranking house democrat, jeffries, and ounces his bid to replace nancy pelosi as the partisan leader. joining us now is nbc's ali refer. ali, good to talk to you. what is the latest on this historic into leadership, the changes in the pipe, as well as the republican agenda they have set forth? >> democrats aren't wasting any time trying to fill their leadership ranks as we saw nancy pelosi's decision this week to step down from leadership. we saw we had congressman jeffrey's trying to replace his democratic leader, if jeffries is elected in this leadership elections, that will take place after thanksgiving recess, around november 30th, to december 1st. he will be the first black leader of any party in either the house and the senate, and then you have representatives
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clot catherine clark and pete aguilar number two and number three spots in the leadership elections, pelosi endorsing all of them, in a statement yesterday, saying, they are, quote, ready and willing to assume this awesome responsibility. all of this is happening as republicans make it clear that their plan is to cause plenty of headaches for the biden administration, over the next two years, with their slim majority in the house. kevin mccarthy, who is still trying to cement the votes he needs to become the house speaker, releasing a statement yesterday, saying, quote, house republicans will be ready on day one to exercise article one authority to help the biden's ministry shouldn't count-able. we vowed for months to investigate biden and his son, hunter biden,'s business dealings. but we learned this week they are planning a lot of other probes into a lot of other things. take a listen here. >> i want to be clear. this is an investigation of joe
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biden. and that is where the committee will focus in this next caucus. >> this is to focus on the judiciary committee, the political nature of the justice department. >> we can impeach secretary mayorkas. [crowd chanting] we can impeach merrick garland. >> by introducing articles of impeachment against joe biden on monday -- >> all of those investigations wrapped up with what they have also vowed our investigations into the u.s. withdrawal of troops in afghanistan. the fbi search trump's mar-a-lago home, so all of this leading to what is definitely going to be an interesting time if kevin mccarthy does when the speaker's role. he's going to have to do a delicate dance keeping those far-right members of his party happy while also keeping the happy -- the moderates happy as well. >> looks like it'll be a rocky two years ahead, ali, thank you. let's head over to buffalo, some breaking news there, where residents are in the middle of a record-breaking blizzard. and in buffalo, for its famous
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lake effect snow, you know it's a lot. but try this. more than six feet, now, on the ground there, i want to go right to mercer who is standing on the side in buffalo. talk us through this incredible amount of snow buffalo has received, really, over the last 24 hours. and with the kind of the uphill battle, residents are facing. >> even for buffalo standards, this is a lot. so just to set the scene for you, every single person in the area woke up to a fresh coat of snow about 1 to 2 feet. now, let's take a look at where i am. where in orchard park and for some perspective, six and a half feet, that it's a foot taller than what i am. that's about the snow report that they were saying, that they got, out here in orchard park. now, this is about a mile away from the stadium, where the buffalo bills play. and what you will see, if we turn over here what they're doing is trying to compile all the snow that they're getting, in combination from not just the stadium, but also surrounding roads and areas. and that is crucial so one thing i can't stress enough is
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just how heavy this snow is. those dry, snow and wet snow. this is the ladder, and that causes problems for a number reasons. there's a number of stress that goes on to shoveling the snow. we've had two people who died as a result of cardiac arrest, as they were trying to do so. and take a look at this video. this is a roof collapsed in hamburg, a little further south than where we are. we are south of buffalo. hamburg is even farther south than we are. and that was really hard hit. this is a bowling alley, and you can see right through it. that wall right there, exposing, well it looks like some bottles inside. the back -- but back out to us live. that something that happened a lot in 2014. buffalo still remembers what happened in 2014. there was roughly a dozen people who died then. they really took a lot of precautions to try to make sure that this was not a repeat of that. but, we can see things are clear right now. keep in mind, this is not over. it was a little earlier today that those bands, the lake effect, was in niagara area. well, they're coming back down here later tonight.
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we are expecting up to another foot. so, let the games begin. there's more to come. >> marissa, you know, it's tough for a lot of folks to deal with this much snow, obviously, and we are incredibly sorry for the loss of those two lives, amidst all of this. but with that, obviously, comes a lot of, kind, of joy as well for kids who want to get out in the first snow of the year. really, this is the first significant amount of snow that up in a -- place like buffalo a scene, are you seeing any of that? right, on the saturday afternoon, at this point, can when kids don't have school, out of the thanksgiving holiday, being able to enjoy six feet of snow? but some could flooding. >> so you know, what i've seen a lot more of today are people that didn't look so thrilled, having to dig themselves out, maybe having to take the snow lower to try to, you know, find a car somewhere underneath. but we did see a cute family yesterday, they were actually here for the buffalo bills game that was supposed to happen here tomorrow, in orchard park, which we are less than a mile away from. they were already on the plane here, when they found out that
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the game was moved out to detroit. so they made the best of. it they said we they were from an area that doesn't normally get snow, and the kids were having a great time. i don't know about the parents, but the kids or. >> there you go. i, mean that's the thing, you and i talked about this a couple hours ago. which, is they weren't prepared for something like this. it is so early in the season. gotta remind folks, it's still november, it's not even winter yet. marcia, thank you, good to talk to you, stay warm if you can. still ahead of everybody, a group of legal experts laying out the case for georgia former president trump over the mar-a-lago documents, just as a special counsel stepson. plus, protests in iran and a third month, one organization aids in a global day of action, with demonstrations across the country. but up first, ticketmaster may not be able to shake off this one. >> i didn't get tickets to the taylor swift concert. [crying] and i waited in line for like six hours. >> fan frustration over the
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bloodbath. with thousands, millions i should say, of fans reporting massive glitches, doing both presales. things got so dire that ticketmaster canceled friday scheduled tickets ails for the general public. meaning, those who did not have access, to either presale, or -- were left with sweet nothing. and now, the new york times reports the justice department had already lost it launched an antitrust investigation into the parent company, before this week's events even happened. the attorney general announced new probes into the company as well. in a statement live nation said they take responsibilities of the antitrust laws seriously, claiming it holds a large share of the market, because of the difference in quality. james is a new york state senator and chair of the senate's investigations committee, joining me now. james, thanks for joining me on this. appreciate it. you wrote an op-ed this week talking about ticketmaster, and all that went down.
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take a master should essentially be considered an monopoly, and broken, up and you said, the latest drama exposes the secrets of a broken system. how did this all happen? >> it all happened because ticketmaster is a de facto monopoly whether regulators have duped them so or not and with that comes all the problems of a monopoly. if there is an issues that artists have, like taylor swift, or fans, or a venue, there is no alternative. that is what happens when there was a monopoly. so as such. , ticketmaster can do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, to every other stakeholder, and as it stands, because there's no competition, there's literally not anything anybody can do. we >> know the justice department approved the merger with live nation back in 2010 -- and statement from live nation. in 2019, after an investigation, the justice department from in the new york times found that
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live nation had repeatedly violated this provision of its decree. regarding forcing venues to use their platform. they actually adjusted some of the language around that, but has anything really subsequently changed? >> nothing has changed. as far as i am concerned. i actually proposed one of the reforms i propose this past year was to prohibit exclusivity provisions in contrast between ticketmaster and venues. because that is exactly what happens with all of these contracts. is a venue -- we want to use your platform for this show, and ticketmaster comes back and says, okay fine, but then you have to sign this contract, that secures us as the platform for every show that your venue offers. and it just reinforces that monopoly. nothing has happened as far as i can tell, since that 2019-degree. until ticketmaster is broken up, and this competition allowed to
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exist in the space, we're gonna see what happens with taylor swift's concerts, and bruce springsteen's concert a few months ago, back to pearl jam making noise about this in the early 90s, it's going to keep happening until we can finally get some competition in the market face place. >> we know telescopes up an arms in the. sanctions have got a lot of influence from fans, and a huge following. is there something that she can do, right, do artists have a responsibility to change things here? >> i do think so. and she is in a fairly unique position in that the only artists that have any leverage with ticketmaster are the really really a list artists. everyone else is at the mercy of ticketmaster. but the spring scenes and taylor swift's of the world they actually have leverage with pricing, they have leverage with then you, and concert locations, they have leverage with something called hold facts, which are the number of tickets that are
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literally held back for vips, and platinum credit card numbers, that don't go and are made available for on sales that general public, and so, if she were able to get together with the other a list stars, that currently used took a master, and basically say, we are done with you until you change your ways i think that would housing the impact. >> we're gonna have to watch and see how this will things plays out, james, so great to talk to. coming up next, a big day at the white house. something different happening there today. it is wedding day. we are going to tell you who in the invited to the very special affair, that cameras are not allowed into. and if the new special counsel -- council advice prosecuting donald trump, an ex guest has a, joyce vance is back with a prosecution memo that she has helped write. a roadmap, really, to holding the former president accountable. we will be right back. right back.
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we digest the news that a duke arland has appointed a special counsel to oversee the departments trump probes. former federal prosecutors and legal experts have created a model prosecution minimal, which creates a roadmap for the doj to charge trump, mar-a-lago residence. and one of the authors, joyce vance, is back with us, to walk us through it. joyce vance is always here, thanks, i don't know how you do it. writing up this model prosecution, i can barely write up a grocery list, joyce, but thank you for doing the things that none of us can actually do. let's dig into this a little bit, if we can, walk us through the case in which you and your colleagues have put together. how do you do it? >> well, first i should say it's almost as easy as riding a shopping list, when your federal prosecutor. we do this for every single case that we indict. and what across memo does is it compiles the admissible
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evidence that prosecutors believe they have. it takes a look at the law and legal charges that will be brought. and also any potential defenses that a defendant might have. and evaluates whether the government can reasonably believe that it would obtain a conviction and sustained it on appeal, if they decide to perceive it with the case. it's a formalistic view that they engage in. this one obviously is a little bit more weighty. this is a bit of a cross memo on steroids. it's extensively footnoted, and an exhaustive review for all of the presidents, particularly in regard to the use of the espionage act. which is a charge that we noted in this class memo, really fits the conduct your like a glove. it's almost like the statute was written for trump. the notion here is that by retaining documents, the that were classified at one point, the former president violates the law. and that crime is made even worse by the level of
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obstruction that continues around requests for the national archives in the justice department, four return of the documents, culminating, of course, with the false statement that is made in connection with the subpoena issued for their return. leading to the search warrant. where documents are recovered at mar-a-lago. so the case is a step by step procedure. it is a very strong case. i think it's important, the, to issue this caveat. we only know the evidence publicly available. doj might have far more evidence. some of that could actually be negative, could be more of a drag. on bringing the case. but it looks strong in the public record. >> i'm asking folks at home who is watching this conversation, they keep this in mind. the only operating and putting this together based on information that's a bail available to the public. and i ask joyce my last question to, i want to dig in six federal crimes that your pointing to in this memo, surrounding both the mishandling of government
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documents as well as obstruction, false information, and contempt. and under mishandling of government documents, the person you think about, or talk about, its attention, national defense information, followed by concealing government records, the third is converging government property. talk about these six federal crimes that they point do, specifically, and which crime you think that trump team should be most worried about. >> so, like always, the crimes that defendants are the most worried about are the ones that carry the longest sentences. and here are the focus is perhaps, largely on the espionage act, for that reason. when you think about what goes on here, this is really a theft crime. it is a very specific kind of theft, it's the theft of government documents, or the retention of stolen property. but, the origin story for these crimes is just like any other case. or a defendant steals something and then here it is compounded by the refusal to return, it
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which leads to the obstruction variety of charges. >> so you end here with this memo. you see the departments on president says the charging trump will be to treat him comparably without those gun engage in similar criminal behavior, with far few aggravating factors in the former president. couple that with what you told us earlier, and that you were all operating only with the information that you could glean from public knowledge and what we have heard publicly, and what we all know, your final thesis here, really, is what? is this a case that the doj should move forward on, considering where merrick garland is on this do believe they will now with the special prosecutor involved? >> prosecutor involved? >> so assuming there's no exculpatory evidence the doj is sitting on, i think the caveat that we have to live with here is to treat trump in a manner that does not result in an indictment on these facts, would be inconsistent with all of the precedent that we have examined in earlier cases. there's a number of people, who
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are in federal prison, or who have served time in federal prison, for crimes that were less serious than this one. and doj takes into account those sorts of considerations when trying to decide whether to indict a case. you want to treat defendants who have engaged in similar conduct similarly, and doj will be q acutely aware not just of the optics, but justice implications. of not inviting trump. that, i suspect, is why they have assembled the trial team, that they put together, and got the special counsel on board to make the final decision. >> joyce, as always, brilliant stuff. thank you. all right everybody, so good news, right, wedding bells at the white house. who doesn't love a wedding? 1600 pennsylvania avenue host biden's eldest grandchild, no biden, and her husband, peter neil. it's the first wedding to feature our presidents granddaughter as the bride. i know that press, monica, was
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not allowed in. but we want to know everything that you know. fill in the details. what was she wearing? who was there? how did go? who do you know? >> we just got a statement from the white house, and untold photos are coming shortly. and we are going to be also seeing some photographs from the official couples wedding photographers, that are coming on instagram later this afternoon. here's what i know so far, yasmin, the bride walked down that white carpet aisle earlier today, around 11 am. the ceremony had 200 people in attendance including u.s. secretary of state antony blinken. and of course the couple's closest family and friends, the president, and first lady hosting this. this is the first of her granddaughter of a president to marry -- to get married in the white house. they've been 18 white house weddings before that, notably, the history here is that this is the first one to take place on the south lawn. so after they did the ceremony, i do have to say, it's a little chilly today. high of 40 degrees, but sunny
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and not too windy everybody moved indoors to a private luncheon with family and friends, and then tonight, there will be a black tie reception. also inside the white house, and you're right, there wasn't press access to this, the couple decided they wanted it to be a private ceremony. but you see some photographs there. and i think we can expect to see more. the president, extremely close to all of his grandchildren but he does share a pretty special and unique bond with naomi who is the one who was said to really encourage him to run for office, ahead of 2020. it's actually notable yasmin that this couple that got married today, they actually live at the white house, they moved in here recently, so their commute out to the wedding venue today was not too far. they basically got married in the backyard except the backyard is, of course, the peoples house. and the white house. >> yeah. just a small backyard barbecue wedding. that's all it was. just a little backyard barbecue wedding. monica, thank, you good to talk
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to you. coming up everybody, people taking to the streets, protests in iran, months into, it over the killing, of course, of a young woman. demonstrations of solidarity across the u.s. as well. i talked to two of the leaders, within this movement, here in the united states. coming to you live in los angeles. and the next hour, twitter on the brink, latest moves by elon musk, experts fear that may bring down the social media giant from the inside. we'll be right back. 'll be right back. ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ get early access to wayfair's black friday sale. save on seasonal t decor from $30.nt. washable rugs up to 80% off. and living room seating up to 65% off. search, shop, and save at wayfair! ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪ (vo) verizon small business days are back. and there's never been a better time to switch!
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to be a total regime change. and they will not stop until that happens. and the fear is starting to get past the point of fear even. you see men and women holding hands, and women without their hair being covered. you see women riding bicycles with their hair uncovered. i saw a photograph, yesterday, of two girls kissing in the street. -- >> these are things you never would've seen just a couple of months ago and around. >> no. things are punishable by, you know, things that will definitely get you arrested. and possibly have you -- >> executed -- executed, yeah. i think at this point, they are doing these extraordinary acts
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of courage and bravery. and that is what i think when i see those home of -- being burnt. his childhood home being burnt. >> you 22 years old, you're living in the united states, you lived in a rod a few months ago. you start and then instagram, you have over 100,000 followers. what does it mean to you to watch your friends, your family, in our, on putting their lives in the line every day? in the streets, knowing that that could be you? >> i think every iranian who's outside the country right now has this guilt that they should be there, they should be protesting with them. and we have this guilt of, oh my god, we are here and we have so much freedom here. what can we do for them? and, that is why you see iranians every weekend, thousands of people on the streets, protesting in solidarity with people inside the country. and my generation is leading this revolution in iran, that is so significant because, we
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are extremely techs have a. and this generation has been able to reach an international audience. the testimonies you're receiving from iran, despite all the crackdowns and restrictions, and shutdowns, young people have found ways, to connect with the outside world. and this connection is -- >> freedoms are being deprived of. >> that's what i think is so incredible, molly of the protests that happened of the few decades, many fidel, because of crackdowns, and also because of technology was just not there. right? and now we are seeing iranians not only iranians in iran protesting, how important is that to this movement? >> it's important that they continue to amplify this protest and for world leaders to not ignore it.
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we talk about how important it is, for leaders to recognize this revolution. as much as it wasn't important to recognize it, you ukraine's attack on -- russia's attack on ukraine. revelation of the protests. as you said, they're bringing down the health of funding member. of this regime. >> mind blowing. >> they don't want this regime. they're asking for another government. they're asking for democracy and freedom, we're not asking them to work for us. >> if you're unsure as to whether or not you've seen protesters want to change in government and country, that that seems like the signal that they do and they're bringing down home in his home. what else needs to be down? what is the community need to be doing? >> i think governments, one by one, need to echo -- not to need to recognize this in a revolution. it's a revolution. not a series of protests. governments need to recall their ambassadors, and close
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their embassies that are in iran. and really put to shame this regime, in a very public way the regime needs to feel the shame -- >> what does that look like? putting to shame the regime? >> i think, you know, freezing assets of members of the regime who are living -- there are members of the regime living here in california. and have been given visas. these visas need to be recalled. and just as president macron did, last week, he stood by iranian woman who are, who have been part of this revolution. he recognize this as a revolution. and i think governments, one by one, need to do that. all eyes right now are on what is happening, this coming thursday. at the un. and, 47 member states need to vote to, at the very basic minimum, trigger an investigative mechanism into the human rights crimes that are happening in iran, by this regime. >> after you're done in the studio, you're heading to the protest in los angeles that are
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happening, what does it mean to standby stand side-by-side with iranians in los angeles, men, women, in solidarity? >> i've never seen iranians unified this beautifully. and that is a lot. that's a lot. this regime has drove out a lot of iranians from this country and now they are rising up outside of the country, and for non-iranians to stand with us to ask their governments to take action, it means a lot. because the islamic republic is a threat, not just to iran, but to everyone in this world. they are a threat to syrians. to ukrainians. to the national security of america. so if you are really scared of this regime we need to stand with the iranian people. >> thank you, thank you guys, as well, and good luck. all right, after the break everybody, new information in a murder mystery of -- in idaho, police try to figure out who stabbed for college students as a slip, it's a case that has a community on edge,
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horrific overnight attacks that left four university of idaho students dead, they are off campus home. while many details remaining unclear, investigators have learned that if physical struggle took place, but for the murders happened. and that two additional roommates were in another part of the house last night and not appear to be involved in the crime. want to bring us gaudy shorts in moscow, idaho. gaudy, talk to us what do we know and what are we learning today? >> well right now, we are watching investigators outside of the home and it appears as though they are taking pictures of some skid marks in front of the home. now there is a lot of people watching and a lot of wild speculation on this case. let me put some context to this. this right here in this is an area where police have been turning around, you have traffic coming in and out, this is a road that is been open for a week here. and if we can pull back out, we can see that the crime scene tape is been extended over here. and then basically locked out this parking lot which is where
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we are at. there is a student living situation behind us so they are not letting any cars down here and then they have taken this crime scene tape, which is for the house right here. use the drop off the driveway. for now, they have gonna stretch it here and they are taking pictures here in the road. now as before we jump to conclusions, this could be just normal documentation police showing skid marks that they may have left while they were turning around. or this could be something else. at this point we don't know an investigators have been extremely tightlipped about this investigation but we have seen over the last few days, investigators coming into the house, processing what looks like evidence inside. yesterday there were no back at putting on evidence markers, they can throw the leaves and pulling things out. so this crime scene is still very much active. and meanwhile the community is still in the same place that they were on day one. no motive, no murder suspect,
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no murder weapon and the fear and the community has grown and grown every day that the killer has not been caught. it's a college town so so many people in this community have decided to leave town, not feeling safe. the vacation of thanksgiving, the vacation is right ahead but a lot of people opting to leave town early because the killer is still on the loose. yasmin? >> yes i mean astounding what took place, some of the details as they emerge and so many questions still remaining. and then the loss of these four young lives, so much promise ahead. how is the university going to handle this going forward? >> well at this point, most of the professor that the university have put everything on hold. starting last week. so any tests that we're going to take place before the thanksgiving break had been called off, classes for the most part have been canceled and the university is in
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mourning. it's a very tight-knit group but for now, so much of this university, so much of that community has gone back to their homes, they are hunkered down with their families, they are processing what happened here. it is something that you can feel in this neighborhood. the house here, the victims car still here and police still processing the scene yasmin. >> all right gaudy shorts for us. as always gati thank you. all right everybody, coming up in the next hour, the differences between the attorney general's newly announced special counsel on the already ongoing doj investigations into the former president. plus now that house republicans won control, they are focusing on the quote real issues. like an investigation into hunter biden. and democratic congressman gerry connolly joins me with his reaction to all of it and more. be right back. be right back. car insurance, so you only pay for what you need.
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