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from msnbc world like this in new york. welcome everybody to alex what reports. we begin with the breaking news in the killing of a least five people and the wounding of 18 morrison lgbtq nightclub in colorado springs. we are hearing for the first time from a witness who claimed he was inside that nightclub when the gunfire broke out. take a listen. >> i was on the dance floor and i heard shots. 45 shots. i thought it was the music.

there was other the music whistle it we cannot hear anybody scream for help or we just did not hear anybody scream for help so i thought it was the music so i kept on enjoying myself and then i heard another set of shots coming out and i turned to my left and i saw the flash from the -- and when i saw that iran. and there into the dressing room with the drags queens change for the performances. and there were including me to other people in there and i made them lock the doors and we closed unlock the doors and gotten on the ground and cut off all the lights and we heard everything. we heard a third round of shots. we heard the assailant be detained by i assume the employees of club q. we heard the police come in. we heard the yelling. we heard the police yelling get your hands off -- we heard everything. shaking and crying and fearing

for our lives. i'm thinking, like, and then a second this man can bust through the door and kill us if he wants. to thank god he didn't really know i guess where he was going. the police did not even though we were in the dressing room. one of the young ladies heart of her commotion with the police and her father and she started packaging panicking. so i called it literally on my stomach and saw the police and they did not even know we were in there once they found us and we were escorted out. when we were excluded out, bodies were on the ground. blood. shattered glass. people dead. it was sad. >> that is awful police are now identifying the suspect who they say opened fire as soon as they enter that club.

>> the suspect has been identified is anderson lee all kvetch, a 22-year-old male. at least two firearms were found at the scene and we are still working to identify firearms in who they belong to, and i cannot confirm that the suspect used a long rifle during this shooting. detectives are currently seeking multiple search warrants. so please be patient with the release of information as this is a large and complex scene, and it will be time consuming to process. detectives are also looking to intensify if there were any other individuals who assisted the suspect. >> and investigators are now looking into that suspects passed. >> unconfirmed by the local police for the new york times another quote huts have found a person by the exact same name in colorado springs. of matching age last year, in june, he was investigated for a

bomb threat or a bomb scare. involving his. mother even the complaint may have been his mother, and the target of the threat may have been his mother's home. if that comes out to be accurate and confirmed, alex, of course it will raise questions of why this individual was permitted to possess a weapon. >> just minutes ago we heard from president biden on the deadly shooting. what is facing a statement saying in part while no motive is known we know that the lgbtq i community has been subjected to horrific hate violence in recent years, and gun violence continues to have a devastating and particular impact on lgbtq i communities across the nation. and threats of violence are increasing. joining me now is msnbc national security analyst mitt watts, and nbc news senior reporter brandi sand rock ski. glad to have you. here although i'm apollo the circumstances under which we have to have this discussion. clint, with the fbi aiding in

this investigation, walk us through what you think investigators are doing right now. where do even began? >> the one advantage we have as we know the perpetrator was taken alive. i mention their work with state and local law enforcement, to do interviews to understand what the motive was behind the stack. we have seen attacks on lgbtq locations before. you might remember the orlando nightclub shooting with a decade ago. there was a man named omar -- who claimed it was for isis as part of the terrorist conspiracy. but there was also believed to be some personal motives involved in those as well. i'm sure they're trying to flush that out. secondly, they've to make sure this was the act of a lone individual and not part of a broader network. or one including other accomplices. based on, frank i think he makes an excellent comment there. it seems it is. known there are some --

tied to this individuals. behavior than the next step is really going to go to what we are going to look on in these situations, which is social media footprint. why is this individual forecasting that they wanted to have this -- based on the ideology or cause on behalf of another network. or group of people. was there any indication about how they got their weapons or why they planned this? pretty consistent over the last 5 to 6 years, that we've seen some sort of pattern like this. where the target is a known type. but you don't know which one. and that the attacker is not known, but they're oftentimes when we look back lots of -- pointing to what their activity is going to. be so i'm sure that is where the fbi is out right now. >> i want to pick up on that. a point that frank our colleague made, clint. and while the point is it to be solidified and confirmed, every which way, that the past may be a prolonged to what happened today in this particular suspect, the fact remains that

weather due to the situation or any other in this country, when someone, anyone has a past, and they are able to access a gun, where is the disconnect there? how doesn't allow for the other? >> what is still sad and shocking about our system here in the united states is we are always looking to stop the frequency of these attacks but also the impact. and the impact of these attacks comes from the availability of semiautomatic assault rifles as long as those are being used it sounds like this individual did use a long gun. there's already reports these wearing body armor. we've seen this time and time again. advanced weaponry being used by the military. and body armor that law enforcement would have. when they go in there and have maximum impact and maximum damage. life and safety is totally vulnerable in these on guarded topics. when we are looking at a situation where in other

countries even if they do have a tax, they don't have them at the same frequency and they definitely did not have the same impacts. due to their restrictions on military grade assault weapons. >> a sobering statement right there but as i move on to you i know that you -- hateful and violent online rhetoric targeting lgbtq people has been rushing up for months now. that part four months just hours after the deadly mass shooting at club q. the worst of these hate accounts. lives of tiktok is targeting another drug event in colorado. so, what are you seeing on the internet? what is driving this rhetoric? and what is this worst of the worst group that you are speaking of? >> hi, alex. we cannot say what the motive was for this yet. but we can say that online in these spaces and in the lives of tiktok comment sections right now. on the club q facebook page, our people ally are celebrating

this deadly attack. they are very happy about. it's in part of that is because online, including the lips of tiktok's, larger media and fox news stories, what has happened is a demonization of lgbtq people. calling them groomers and pedophiles. police are looking into motives but it is hard to not look at this in the context. there's been hundreds of bills introduced across the, country most of them targeting trans. people it is daily. a deluge of attacks and harassment against drag queens. drag queens story hours. neo-nazis. arrested in auto for coming to a pride event. this is a scary time for lgbt q people and this type of thing, whether we can say it was a motive or, not what we say is that it is another reason why

lgbtq people are scared. and it is just really hard not to think about that, when you think about this attack. >> give me perspective on this, candy. how much is being done to combat hate and harassment against lgbtq people on the internet? how do we better protect these people and this community? >> that's a big question, content moderation is a hard task. twitter and where the bulk of the information, is that's where the biggest accounts are with matt walsh, and lives of took, again. where they post this stuff. what is being done, well, two days ago we know that elon musk who owns twitter now, he just reversed the policy that twitter did have -- against misgendering transgender people. so now it seems like we are

going in the wrong direction. i'm not sure what the answer, is but whatever doing now is not. >> nonetheless, i thank you for coming. on at least illuminating what is going on for better or for worse. , brandi i appreciate. that you, as well, always click walk. thank you. let's go to some new developments in politics. now new generation of house democrats led by hakeem jeffries aimed to succeed house speaker nancy pelosi and her leadership team in the next conference. earlier today, leaders denis hoyer told msnbc what motivated to the timing of passing the torch. >> i think we are going to take back the house in 20, for 2024. and i think those two years will give the new leadership the opportunity to have experience. deal with a. caucus get known by the. caucus they are already, known obviously. but in a leadership role. which i think will make them more effective in the majority. >>, meanwhile as donald trump announced his third bid for the white house, democrat david

cicilline is now pitching a way to by the former president from the presidency. he has worked on legislation that would prevent trump from taking office under the 14th amendment. believing an insurrection against the united states. earlier, today congressman dave msnbc more details on his efforts. >> it's very clear that somebody has engaged in direct contact by the former president is disqualified from holding federal office. will they have a new resolution is about 30 pages, and considerable detail. what we've learned both during the impeachment investigation, during the january six hearing, and then in public information. about the presidents involvement. i hope we will have a vote on before we get into the caucus. >> general merrick garland appointed a special counsel to weigh the potential charges against donald trump. in two federal investigations. house intelligence committee will see the importance of accountability in both these cases. >> for four years when he was,

president the department took the position which i think is a flawed as a constitutional matter, that you cannot indict a sitting president. you cannot now take the position but you also cannot indict a former president again. otherwise, that president becomes above the. law and the founders would never subscribe to that idea. >> joining me, now former brooklyn your prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. and -- former federal prosecutor and legal affairs analyst for politico. welcome, gentlemen. glad to have you. both were with you first, here. we support the special counsel and the attorney general's announcement on friday, what you think it is the right move, and what you make of the timing? >> first of, all i think it was a smart idea. actually, by merrick garland. creates a little bit of difficulty with -- this decision because it can only be really a good. they i, i think also, that jack smith and the special counsel is a more experienced prosecutor and i spent more of his time doing that the merrick

garland. so do not forget the prior two years as a federal judge. i do not really see any downside here. i also do not think that there is going to be much of a delay. attorney general made it clear that was his. intent and, really i view this as a special counsel. which is taking up an existing investigation, all with existing fbi. agents existing prosecutors. much like when robert mueller took over the investigation. and indicted mr. -- that's what i. see i would've done this earlier. , frankly by any criticism of the attorney general and said, i really think this did not need to be time for former president trump's announcement. i think it could've been done much earlier. in the investigation. >> i would love to comment on, that. charles your thoughts. do you agree with ronaldo? or do you have a different opinion? >> i think we're not always some good points. but i also think that there was an attempt to avoid the

politicization of what we've always seen. we have been, and with regard to this call for a special prosecutor, this was going to be done. the one thing that i will agree with is that it should have been done earlier. the idea that somehow this is not going to stave off calls from conservatives or from the right, saying that now this is not political. merrick garland has created a sufficient amount of -- wind itself and any notion of political mr. wing or wrongdoing is -- we not do know this is not which trainer did for the. right this, politicizing this investigation, and any potential prosecution against donald trump. for me, if this was going to -- it should've been done earlier. from public standpoint, and as a former prosecutor. understand from the public standpoint, it does reduce the amount of faith that they have in merrick garland. in part because i do not understand the complexity of the occupation of this nature. so, from that aspect it seems

like all this investigation has been done. , ultimately for merrick garland to pump the ball. and i think it is not only does well. to have confidence in the former justice. >> what about this new special prosecutor? he likes the public profile of the after mentioned faa director robert, mueller who won a special counsel in 2016. using that investigation that you mentioned. does that help him with acceptance, given the fact that jackson has a lower public profile? can you go about his business without a lot of people putting expectations on him? because of his past dealings? >> i think. so i, mean attorney general garland -- what you want the special counsel? i was just somebody who is not political. not well known. career prosecutor who essentially has his or her nose to grindstone for decades. that's really what you're getting in jack. smith here's someone he was a long career as a prosecutor. very experienced.

a prosecutor. but yes, has no. reputation and i agree, by the way. the right thing and trump crew are going to attack. can they would attack. anyone jesus christ if he is under from the clouds. and investigated donald. trump i am sure that we criticize him. but i think that the bottom line is that we have to do things the right way. and i think that happening with any division or separation between appointees and the ultimate decision-making here, is -- >> the broader smile to my face but your point is duly noted. , charles considering the is pledges that bringing a special prosecutor is not going to slow down the investigations, how about changing the trajectory at all? what do you think? will anything change? >> i do not think the trajectory. changes i think that jack smith is going to look at everything that has been done so far, how all information as we gather from these investigations. anything additional that may be

leading to january six report. and basically decide, where is the strongest ball. here where is the strongest pathway that we may have, to criminal wrongdoing. and what is the indictment or prosecution like. i don't necessarily think the trajectory, changes but, again he is picking up in the middle of an investigation. it is important to remember that while we have had greater insight into this investigation, and these investigations, than we normally would in a criminal investigation, meaning that members of the public, there is still a lot we don't. now as jack smith gets that information, he is likely to continue along that path. and, decide what is the strongest role he has to move forward? >> interestingly,. ronaldo you've compare donald trump keeping classified documents at mar-a-lago to a straightforward narcotics crime. rather than a more complicated to prosecute white collar crime. why is that and how does it differ from the other doj probe, in the push to overturn the 2020 election? >> i have spent most of my

career as a prosecutor, white collar, and now i do what color defense. and these kinds of cases, there is generally no question about what happened in. in other, words tax reforms were filed by an individual. but the question that ends up becoming a -- for our case wasn't willfully with the attempt to withdraw tax authorities. there is no question that trump did certain things and said certain things, five for example james comey. proving the trump's state of mind is always challenging, a difficult state of mind to read. but in the drug case, if you got the heroine on, you you are, guilty right? if you possess heroin, you could argue it was patrick or. something but the bottom line is it is much more straightforward. and i really view a documents case like this one as a very similar to that. because they to mar-a-lago the

doj asked for it back and made a personal visit to ask for it back. issued a grand jury. that's a pretty straightforward case. that's the justice department to get here. >> do, you charles, think it is an effective to set a defense to say it is a difficult state of mind that this guy? has donald, trump but it's hard to prove it? showing intense? is that going to be effective? >> in this, instance with regard to your question, i will point to the significant amount of investigative reporting, which has come out and delayed -- or display the timeline this entire time. in terms of when these documents were asked for. what the response was. when they were asked for oregon. the execution of the subpoena. and so on and so. fourth the search warrant and so on. i think what you start to begin to look at an entire, timeline and, again so much of that was laid bare by the excellent investigative reporting that we've seen from journals across

the country, it has laid that in clear fashion to show that even if you want to argue that she did not have the -- utility at some point became aware that you were in the wrong. and continue along that path. not to mention the request for workers in the order for workers to do things. like move documents around mar-a-lago. saying that they've been needing to return to the national archives. so, these things all diminish and undercut the notion of having the proper frame of mind necessary, in order to secure a conviction. that is, in large part, due to some outstanding investigative reporting which we have seen -- from across the country. >> charles, you just answer that question with you -- or as a former brooklyn your prosecutor. and i thank you for. that, ronaldo thank you as well. after decades of resistance and incredible developments to tell you about, it involves climate change. plus, a scathing remarks from one member of congress. kevin mccarthy, those details, next.

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>> eric swalwell cannot get a security clearance in the public sector. why would we ever give security clearance in the secrets to america? i will not allow him to be on intel. you have -- allow him to be on it. either we're not gonna -- allow it to be on. foreign affairs >> i suspect you will do whatever marjorie taylor greene wants you to do. -- saying he will adhere to the wishes of the lowest common denominator. who wants to remove people from. committees that's what they'll do. it is going to be chaos. with republican leadership. >> the gut check, here alex, is that house speaker cannot unilaterally remove members from committees. that takes a majority vote on the house floor. this is something that mccarthy is familiar, with because it is exactly what happened in 2021.

when democrats and about roughly a dozen republicans voted to remove congresswoman marjorie taylor greene from her committee assignments, over her past endorsement. some baseless conspiracy. theories she was spreading rhetoric about violence against democrats. some of that rhetoric even condemned by mccarthy. mccarthy has promised to reinstate her committee assignments, if he becomes speaker. and, notably we saw green last week break from some of her far-right colleagues in the house and indoors him for speaker. so this is going to be a interesting next 44 days before the house leadership elections. as we see mccarthy try to navigate this road. >> it is just extraordinary. as i, i say buckle, up everybody. especially marjorie taylor greene. as the mccarthy whisper going forward for the next couple of. years thank you, ali, for. that in the, meantime this breaking news that the un has reached a groundbreaking global agreement on climate change. the deal will provide financial

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compensate poor country suffering climate disasters. >> i hear no objection. still deciding. >> at the united nations climate conference, known as cop 27 in -- egypt, representatives from two and other countries work into the wee hours to reach the. agreement details including dollar figures have yet to be determined. developing countries like the u.s. in the european union and some international financial institutions are expected to be contributors to the so-called loss and damage van. vulnerable nations like pakistan raja ravaged by deadly flooding the, summer will be the expected beneficiaries. >> when you can do is provide the financial resources that countries will need to rebuild after disasters and help those who are migrating refugees. to help with food security challenges. >> president biden addressed the summit on friday. >> you see our mission to avert climate catastrophe? not only is it imperative for

president in a, future but through the eyes of history. >> the u.s. and other rich countries have resisted the idea of a fund for. years figuring that they could be sued for climate disaster. a new agreements takes away that potential legal liability. a show of unity from nations big and small to address a global crisis. >> now, alex this one is the. good news the bad news is it is not paired with a really ambitious plan to actually cut emissions. the un secretary general says that he hopes that this summit would go a whole lot further. trying to keep the world in that target zone of not warming above 1.5 degrees centigrade. that is a target that we are a long way off right now. the danger that this fund is going to address the centers of climate change but one talks address the root causes. >>, alex it is a step forward in some. ways but i think people were hoping for a few. more thank you very, much rob

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colorado springs at club, cue a safe haven for the lgbtq community. having minutes before midnight. police say the government opened fire upon entering the nightclub, and high praise for two patrons who attacked and detained the suspects whenever serves arrive just a few

minutes later. nbc's steve patterson has just arrived on the scene, steve, tumult you're seeing there right now. >> >> you can see behind me that there are police -- collecting evidence and talking to witnesses. also, this second-ing sense of déjà vu. on these mass shootings that we have covered over and over and over again. , really across the country. the same sort of pattern along with an assault style weapon in a long, gun body armor on that suspect. as he appeared to take aim indiscriminately, shooting as many people as he. could, as you mentioned 5:10 at least 18 inch or. we know those numbers generally go, up in a situation like this. but now, nearly sense of a president who was shocked and appalled. the governor shocked and appalled. mary was shocked and appalled. and this community, which must be an agony. we spoke to somebody that was inside. their his name was joshua.

he had several friends inside it was dancing and could not hear the shots when they first rang out. how the presence of mind to lock himself in the back dressing room, likely saving several people. as he was hearing the shots, continuing to wring out, he knew several of his friends may have been receiving those shots. here's what he told. us listen to this. >> he was a bartender. he was shot. as far as i know he was killed. my friend jericka, he was shot in the leg. but he is okay. the dj, she was shot but she is okay. as far as i know, those are the only people that are killed and injured. >> you can see the steadiest but the horror in his. voice listing friends that he believes were shot and killed. this investigation of course is just getting underway. we will expect to learn more as the briefings will likely spark off later on today. but for now our community is just in so much pain. alex. >> i tell. you that gentlemen was an

extraordinary witness and were able to hear two minutes of him talking specifically addressing the scene. what he heard at the very and he collapsed in tears. don't know how he is doing today. but we are, grateful at least, for the information and free bringing it as well. thank, you. steve let's see monica alba at the white house. with more reactions to this tragic shooting. as we're just hearing from, steve the president has made a statement. what are we hearing from, the? monika >> these killed statement, monica -- alex. as we have so often seen from the white house. after a string of mass shootings in this country. some familiar phrases of course. saying -- and the first lady are -- to the spike of the. started with the president also talking about the political implications. here especially when it comes to gun safety, and even though the motive is not yet clear this attack, the president wrote in this statement, he wanted to say that they know the lgbtq i community has been subjected to horrific violence in recent years.

gun violence continues to have devastating and particular impact on lgbtq a+ communities. across our nation. and threats of violence are increasing. the president also said that in other community in america has been torn apart by gun violence. more families left with an empty chair at the table. and a hole in their lives that simply cannot be filled. when will we decide we have had enough? the president also said, in the statement, alex, but he did sign into law a gun safety legislation and action, that was. historic one of the most significant in the last couple of decades. but, that more needs to be done. on the president calling again, for a ban on assault weapons. something that he had said he would like to try to do in the remainder of this first term. before deciding if he's going to seek reelection. that is going to be difficult in a gridlocked congress here in washington d.c.. the president speaking about this issue, many times he has reiterated that more often needs to be. dan and that he will be

continued to be briefed on this developing situation, and have likely more statements to come. i will be surprised if we hear from him in the coming days. and. weeks about how he plans to try to take action on. this one of the areas where there has been some bipartisan momentum in the past, but we will see if there can be more. of course, president biden back when he was in the senate did work on this issue specifically. i would like to do more, we are told. there is an area of common ground here. one that -- would like to see. >> thank you for the comprehensive report. now, to the latest in the saga. a former president trump and the appointed of the special counsel. as donald trump remains defiant. the next guest says -- is not going away, and is willing to spring the loyalty of his hard-core base like a cudgel against party elevators who are considering abandoning him. -- senior executive at bloomberg joins me now, the author of the book trump nation. the art of being the. donald that was 15 years ago,

now. you've certainly been following him for a long. time which brings me to the first, question. tim republican former allies of trump are among those who have the 2024 roma announcement low energy. but are you saying that does not even seem to matter? >> well, it certainly won't matter to him alex but it will probably matter to the party -- i think those who want to distance themselves from trump are trying to do it because they realize what the norman strike days on the national ticket? the most of the maga-ish candidates at the midterms got voted down a number of state houses which have changed hands. i think there is a recognition that while trump has a very tight grip on about 30% of republican primary voters, when it comes to trying to win the

national election he turns off modern republicans and moderate democrats. he can't really resemble a national coalition. so the party is actually hostage to him. because he scares enough of the party elders that they will not fully come at him. but they also have to make sure that they don't just absolve too much from his base. i think it is going to leave the republican party in a very fractured and schizophrenic state. they are going to have to try to work out before 2020. for >> let me ask, you though. just play out this hypothetical. for me. would that be for potentially just say an 18 -- before the end of the primary season, if he does not become the presidential nominee? does he just go away? that's the end of donald trump. >> as donald trump ever gone away, alex? he --

doesn't -- but it is significant, way with that to the end of him politically? you are losing here for the midterms in 2020. two and you are no longer going to be a candidate for president. we are done with you. >> the institutions can say. that the new york post, the empire starting to turn against him. the leadership of the gop, that's going to turn against him. but i don't think that his voters are. and as long as he is a power broker who has a lot of traction with a substantial portion of the republican electorate, he does not go away. he will matter to some extent in the primaries, for i think a good time going forward. because the republican party itself is split between traditional conservative forces and these more populist white nationalist monger in fluent sewers and candidates who are not going to go away. >> i want to show the viewers what happened when reporters trying to get kevin mccarthy on the record about supporting trump's reelection.

here it is. >> do you -- support run for presidents? >> -- >> do you want to? >> do you see? that he passed him like a full bus, tom. is he terrified that you might see something upset maga voters? >> i think he is terrified of what to do because he has fashioned himself as a trump puppet. the mere fact that kevin mccarthy has elevated somebody like marjorie taylor greene into the upper echelons of the house, on the gop side, says everything. he is willing to pander as much as he needs to to the trump wing because he has an affinity for it and he is scared of it. and that plays better in the house. the senate is going to -- mitch mcconnell has an audio path here. i think that mccarthy is trying

to preserve his own path to speaker. and i don't think he can do that entirely with the maga coalition. and so i think he is trying to tamp as much of the stand publicly as he can until that gets settled. >> in terms of the scared of it part, here is what almost a told me yesterday because she thinks that -- it's going to be a strong contender in trump's apprentice. here it is. >> this is the presidential vice presidential addition of the apprentice hailie huckabee green lake. oh my. so many candidates to choose from. you will see each of them trying to prosper in front of him to become the vice presidential running mate. but i think that she has a lot to battle i mean green has been out there and marjorie taylor greene green is probably his most vocal supporter and fighter for him. >> what would the trump and teegee or as you are showing you the video of a trump-like

campaign be like? and where that leave nonalcoholic ends? >> well i think it would be a very toxic maga combination. i don't think would make any sense from an intellectual standpoint or a politically strategic standpoint. but that has never stopped donald trump. if he's in the simply to make a statement and he knows he is not going to be the nominee i could see him pairing up with somebody like kari lake or marjorie taylor greene. if he is trying to actually say to the broader republican electorate that he knows how to assemble a broad coalition, there is no way he's going to partner with either one of those two. he would look to somebody like nikki haley possibly. but i think that if he is going to get to the point where you can name a running mate, yes to get to the primary season first. and it is going to be his first task. >> well, said tim o'brien. have you, thanksgiving my friend. mind-blowing weather that hit one part of the country this

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been left behind and we talked about how bad the driving conditions were we talked about how there is a travel ban in the lead. apart let's move you. here i want to show you this. car you can see some damage. here i cannot personally verify where the damage came. from what you can see is how packing that snow. was so you can see it between the winds and the height of the, snow you can see it here. this car made an attempt to get out of where it was and it was not successful and so it torque was able to drive it over. as we are walking over, here you can probably make out a bunch of other cars off in the distance. they do their best. governor hochul has applied for a federal disaster emergency fund. from president biden. and if approved, that would go towards 11 different counties. which were hard hit. obviously we have been talking about erie county where we are in buffalo. which is very hard hit. and governor hochul says she has seen her own fair share of snow. but even she said that this was

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pesticides. you can see with the save levels, are that we can apply these things without harming their life or anything like that. so, in doing little to restrict on these types of studies, i noticed that there were some lifespans in the past that were way longer than what i was experiencing. the student i thought was -- solicited to getting deeper and deeper. over the past 50 years the lesson was about half of what is right. now in terms of -- >> here's a question. we know they play a critical role in the natural world and this is so much of a cycle. but most do not understand how critical. dir can you explain that? the role of peace in our ecosystem? >> certainly. it is really a two part. answer and that you the honey bees that we think of in colonies and, hives are introduced as part of our agriculture. system are just huge in terms of food. security they pollinate are crops and capitals.

but there is also thousands of species of native bees, as well. but some are so specific to plants that are really great for the plans that we have here for -- and things like. that so it is really critical that we pay tension in terms of food security. >> yeah, in fact i think the summary was one third of our diet depends on the honeybee population. being zahau described. there you also have to think it accounts economically for about the six enough billion dollars in annual economic value here in the u.s.. the decline in this is huge. how whereas the government? what is being done with this, you can give me an answer in about 30 or 45 seconds? >> certainly. i know there is quite a bit of funding for quality research and it was certainly well placed on the national level. we are really focused on what we call the three-piece which are parasites pesticides and nutrition which are the real drivers of health but predominantly it is this parasite that really just feeds

on the bees and viruses. relying pretty heavily on better strategies to mitigate infections and understand by roger reading of that sort of thing. >> can this be? saved cannot be reversed? the decoy that you are seeing? >> i certainly believe. so it is critical to figured in terms of our food security that we have to move with the times like biology is very complicated and the way we interact with the environment. so i think we cannot really have much of a choice? >> okay you have to keep on keeping on thank you so much for talking with us. happy thanksgiving to you. that is gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports and i will see you guys next saturday at noon eastern. but to all of you in the meantime, have a happy thanksgiving. yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage. wow!

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