. so as we come on the air, we're getting new details in the colorado mass shooting. the police now saying the number of people killed remains at five. an additional 17 people were shot inside that nightclub. the suspect also still in the hospital is charged with multiple counts of murder and officials are also moving to file hate crimes charges saying he targeted the lbgtq + community. more than a dozen victims are in the hospital with our teams standing by with the latest. and to politics, with the newest wrinkle of kevin mccarthy becoming speaker and what one congressman is saying now, and spoiler alert, it is not a done deal. and plus, why officials are downplaying comments about president biden after he said today he would be talking about avoiding a potential supply chain nightmare.

one of the country's big rail unions voting to reject a new contract. what the white house is and is not doing to keep the trains on the track and avoid a strike. i'm hallie jackson. we have more from colorado springs this afternoon. nbc news senior reporter with us. and former head of the fbi active shooter program. let's break down what we know and what we don't know about the story still developing. here is what we know. five people are dead. police just moments ago revising the number of people hurt to 19. hurt by some sort of gunshot issue. one person is hurt with what police are calling nonvisible injuries. and the suspect remains hospitalized, subdued by people inside the house wrkt mayor of the city saying one of them hit the attacker in the head with his own gun. police today say they have not been able to get details from the shooter himself or from his mother and here's what we don't

know. what was the exact motive of this person? law enforcement keep in mind is charging him with several hate crimes. we don't know how he managed to get his hands on the multiple weapons used, including an ar-style rifle that he brought to the club and we don't know if he was watched for law enforcement after an arrest that may have been for making bomb threats last year. and let's lay it out here and not just the details on the shooting itself but the lives it. tell us more. >> you can see the memorial behind me growing, and dozens of people coming out throughout the day to pay their respects. hundreds and hundreds of bouquets, conversations, people remembering the legacy of the victims that lost their lives, the people who are still injured, and the community, the lbgtq community that it is very much affecting here today, we do know two of the victims, ashley paugh, and she leaves behind her

family. and the family heart broken. she was just in town for a day trip with a friend and gone to the club to see a comedian apparently and looking to have fun and let loose. and meanwhile, daniel aston is another person who lost his life here, over the weekend. he was bartending and was an entertainer here in colorado springs. he is described as undeniably smiley and silly, and called him a master of silliness, and his mother spoke out about how she's feeling and about who her son was and we want you to hear about what she had to say. >> it is a nightmare that you can't wake up from. i keep thinking it was a mistake. but it's not a mistake. and he's really alive. he lit up a room. that's an old expression but he really did.

always smiling. always happy. >> reporter: emotions, understandably, still very raw. a lot of sadness in the community. but the emphasis of needing to come together and share the love, because the idea that love can be heavier than hate in this environment, something that has been brought up repeatedly with signs on the memorial and talking to communities, the idea that hateful rhetoric that has surrounded this community and as well as the country, in terms of the anti-trans, bills pushed by lawmakers and the anti-lgbtq rhetoric that is nonstop and many feel it needs to be scaled back, and what they're doing in terms of celebrating who they are and loving who they love and being comfortable in sharing that and that is something that has struck us as we have been talking to people here a lot of people looking for answers around those things that we don't know, that we are still looking to learn about the shooter, what had motivated him, where did he get the weapons, and what kpas exactly was the

plan because club owners did not recognize him when he opened fire in this club. we expect to get more updates from police later this afternoon. >> a few hours from now. a lot of people are looking for that. maura, thank you. >> on one hand, officials are filing hate-related charges. on the other, we haven't heard them specifically call this a hate crime. help us understand the distinction here. >> well, it's like any crime, there's just a specific element that you have to meet and that means that with the live shooter, as prosecutors, you know, i'm from the fbi, i used to be a prosecutor, and as a prosecutor, you look at how can we prove the elements of the crime, and unless there is evidence that specifically indicates that this individual intended and the intent was to damage and injure people who are in this particular community, or a particular community, we see the same type of struggle with prosecutions that have to do with attacks that might be especially in the jewish community right now, a lot of attacks in that community, and a

high number, a percentage increase, of incidents that we see in the hate crimes there. so i think it's really a question of can they prove the specifics about whether or not he intended an act of hate against this particular group. and if they don't have any evidence of that, and he's not talking, they might not be able to prove that crime. >> katherine, you know, this shooter may have been known to police, this alleged shooter because somebody with the same name and age as the suspect was arrested for making a bomb threat last year. should law enforcement have been doing more to keep tabs on him? maybe they have been and we just don't know about it? help us understand what happens from a law enforcement perspective when an incident like what happened last year goes down. >> i think that is the struggle that everybody has right now, we all want to blame somebody and the police are always obviously the easy target because they're there all the time. but the challenge with law enforcement is that they are always going to have to balance private civil liberties and civil rights against the investigative needs, and if there isn't an investigative

need, they cannot track and trace somebody and just follow them. so if something did happen, and there is the same person as you indicated, a year or two ago, i know that right now in colorado, for instance, they have red flag laws, and protection orders, and even those types of orders that might allow law enforcement to take somebody's weapons from them, they're very limited in time. i think in colorado, there's like 14 days to six months at the maximum. and so it is very limited in what law enforcement can do, and once there is an act, trying to act in furtherance, unless there is an intent that is seen by behaviors and actions and hopefully somebody saw some behaviors and actions before this incident, and next time, i think we want people to report them. and i would say one other thing about, you know, the fear about people that they have right now, that they don't want to go into clubs, you know, a couple of years ago, the fbi put together a great video that particularly was done in a bar, to show you what to do if you're in a bar or

nightclub and something happens and we posted that on the website, just so you don't live in fear, as you spend your holidays out there. >> let me come back to a second, and i want to talk about what so many people feel disturbing about what happened at the club and that is the backdrop of what we've seen over the last any number of months as it relates to anti-lbgtq plus legislation, or rhetoric, for example, this human rights campaign study from august, found that anti-lbgtq+ rhetoric surged online from 400% after florida passed the don't say gay law. there is a nexus here, right, to the language that is used by people and the environment that gay and lesbian people find themselves in, in this country. >> 100%. i mean right now, we're talking about the lbgtq community. because since april, they have been targeted as the bogeyman for the far right and right wing politicians. it starts with, you know, small internet accounts like tiktok,

and then it moves to podcasts, and then suddenly it is coming out of politicians, like marjorie taylor green, or lauren boebert's mouth. and people do this for money and political clout, and all sorts of reasons but it has real world effects. and we've done this so many times, right? we talked about it in 2019, anti-immigrant rhetoric led to many shootings, mass shootings, people died in el paso at walmart, anti-semitic online hate speech leads to a mass shooting in a synagogue, we have seen this as well. and this keeps happening and we keep finding out after the fact that this has happened and the shooter's main motivation, we don't know right now but it feels very familiar. we read the sort of plan festos so many times, and the idea now that the people spreading this online rhetoric, that are demonizing, dehumanizing lbgtq folks, calling them gloomers and pedophiles, and the people who

are afraid of this ecosystem, and now step away, and we don't have anything to do with the shooting but i think as you said, it is really, really important to look at this kind of violence and the ecosystem that is create and words have meaning and words have consequences. >> we are just finding out in the last couple of seconds as you were speaking, and maura, i have you jump in here, and president biden has spoken about the shooting that happened, obviously, that we're talking about here, at club q, this is something, maura, that has once again yet again, we're talking about on national television talking about a mass shooting in this country with a nexus clearly given the charges here to hate, maura. >> reporter: exactly. as a reminder, police have filed charges, five counts of murder and five counts of bias-motivated crimes causing bodily injury, that's what they're calling a hate crime and as a reminder, those charges, those murder charges carry life sentences, and i think it is incredibly important because something that was brought up to

me as i was coming out to cover this story, is the idea of a safe space, like lbgtqplus community, colorado, looking after the 2022 midterm, seemed kind of blue, but this is a more conservative area, this is a more rural area, it borders lauren boebert's district, as was brought up, so when you hear lawmakers, people who are speaking like that, that is why people in this community don't feel safe, because it does affect them, and so the conversation between the governor here, the first openly-gay man elected as governor, talking with president biden and people here are looking for that action, for change to happen, so i anticipate that would be good news for them to hear as well. >> thank you very much, appreciate all of your reporting and perspective. we'll talk more about this later in the show. coming up here, just before we came on the air, the prosecution has now rested the case in the trump organization's criminal tax fraud trial. we'll tell you what to expect from the defense with a live report. plus, closing arguments happening right now in the biggest january 6th trial yet.

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projection has republicans projected, estimated to have a majority between two to five seats. not a lot of wiggle room for kevin mccarthy and not all together shocking, what is interesting are the numbers here, and if this holds, right, and there are a dozen, let's say real no's for mccarthy's speakership, that's ball game right here and we are hearing from mccarthy and how seriously are they taking this? >> reporter: i believe kevin mccarthy feels pretty confident when the dust settles he will be the next speaker of the house and you're right, it is one thing to say that there are a dozen or so republicans ready to break with kevin mccarthy as speaker and have people to go on the record and say they're not ready to support him, and those two numbers are not quite matching up yet. there are maybe four or five republicans who have said emphatically they're not prepared to vote for him, or against him and not quite 12,

and between now and then it will be up to kevin mccarthy to figure out to get to the 218 number and we see him finding ways to do that, meeting behind the scenes with at lof of the conservative republicans, members of the freedom caucus not in complained to support his candidacy and he has won a few over, marjorie taylor green, who you might peg as someone who is distancing herself from kevin mccarthy and she will support him and jim jordan has stuck by kevin mccarthy's side because he is likely to be the next chair of the judiciary committee and it seems that kevin mccarthy will have a hands off approach in terms of what type of investigations he will allow someone like jim jordan to take on, as a member of the judiciary committee. but that doesn't mean that mccarthy is in the clear by any stretch. there is a lot of work to do now between now and the beginning of january and keep in mind this is not a closed door vote with republicans and it is on the house floor and it gives the far right membership measures of the

house of representatives to use every opportunity they can to get what they want from kevin mccarthy if he is going to be the next speaker of the house. >> ryan nobles live on the hill, thank you. across town in dc, lawyers for five oath keepers telling jurors today, the government they say lied about evidence when building the case for seditious conspiracy, as part of the seven week trial, kind of a big deal, right, because it is the most high profile january 6th profile and because of the charges of decision conspiracy, right now, it is just about to be in the hands of jurors, with the defense wrapping up its closing argues as we speak. justice reporter ryan reilly is outside the courthouse there. so the jury will be given instructions, and then they will begin to deliberate here, on the eve of course of the thanksgiving week holiday. break down the decisions that the jury will have to make, and then separately, we're looking ahead to some other big january 6th cases coming up. >> reporter: that's right. so you know, in a few moments here, the government will start its final rebuttal. the jury now has heard for the last time, from the defense, so the government will get the last

word here and make their strongest case they can. but this is a case that started 49 days ago now with opening arguments and there is a lot of evidence for the jurors to deliberate here. i think one crucial thing important for, you know, viewers to understand is that what the government is electing here is that there is not a precoordinated plans to invade the u.s. capitol but they said thats there wa a plan to obstruct the certification of the electoral results or stop essentially the peaceful transfer of power, in any way possible. essentially what the prosecution is arguing is that the oath keepers seized this opportunity, by going into the capitol, when that opportunity presented itself. and not necessarily that they had any really in depth pre-coordinated plans to invade the u.s. capitol. oath keepers found stewart rhodes, had written open letters to donald trump, offering essentially to bring up a militia in support of keeping him in office and there is a lot of evidence that jurors will be able to look over here, but you know, the defense says that this is just a lot of essentially locker room talk, in fact, that

argument was made explicitly by one of the defendants here, essentially that it is just a lot of heated rhetoric and not necessarily amounting to a pre-coordinated plan. so you know, there's, i think, also the defendants are hoping for, potentially is, a mixed verdict here, because on some of the charges certainly there is enough evidence but the big seditious conspiracy, that is the minutia that the prosecutors are going for and it is very rarely used in u.s. history. >> thank you. let's go to a separate trial now where the prosecution has just rested its case in a trump orb criminal tax fraud trial, that means obviously the defense goes next. starting, we think in the next couple of minutes, putting the case forward this afternoon. tom winter, nbc news investigative correspondent, is following this trial for us. tom, what did prosecutors leave jurors with at the end of the close? and what do you anticipate the defense will do in this trial now that is incredibly high profile, of course, because it

relates to the former president's business? >> reporter: well, of course, and as a matter of fact, we expected donald bender, he was the tax preparer for the company, the person who put together the tax returns for the trump organization, as well as the cfo and other members of the whole trump companies, and that sphere, if you will, basically prosecutors here, leaving the jurors with a sense that allen weisselberg, their key witness here, their cooperating witness, who pleaded guilty of course, earlier this year, to charges that essentially he said, look, i did this for me, but i also did it for the trump organization, and they saved some taxes as well in the form of medicare medicaid taxes when i received those benefits without us accounting for income. the defense really kind of going at him during the course of the cross-examination saying the prime beneficiary, allen weisselberg, is you, you are the one who didn't have to pay taxes

on this, it was a benefit to you, and your family, and kind of going at this notion that the trump organization was really involved, but potentially impact the line of questions there, hallie, was asking allen weisselberg if they did any sort of analysis, some sort of financial analysis, as to the benefit of the trump organization, by moving forward with this alleged scheme, and he said no. so i think for the juror, it is going to come down to weisselberg's credibility. he did say numerous times that he had no reason to not tell the truth on the stand, and prosecutors appeared to be happy with his testimony. we'll know soon enough if they go to the judge and suggest that he wasn't truthful in some way. then of course, the terms of the plea agreement could be violated, and we'll watch that. but donald bender as i mentioned before is expected to be the first key witness for the defense. their indications are, it could be one and done, with this witness, and they then might move on to closings, closing arguments, that is, as soon as a week from today, hallie. >> tom winter, thank you for

staying on top of it, appreciate it. coming up on the show, more and more concerns over what is happening in ukraine. with more shelling now at the biggest nuclear power plant in europe. plus, how the iranian soccer team at the world cup is showing support for protesters back home. megan mit gerald is in qatar following all of the controversy. >> reporter: that's right, a lot more to talk about in this year's world cup than just the game. it is shrouded in controversy. we will break it down for you, coming up after the break. ming . my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. ray's a1c is down with rybelsus®. i'm down with rybelsus®. my a1c is down with rybelsus®. in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus®

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soccer, i'm surprised you're watching this show, because team usa is playing for the first game in the world cup in qatar, it is not what is happening on the soccer field, there is a whole bunch of controversies, 24 hours into the tournament. we got the iranian soccer team today, refusing to sing the country's national anthem at its first game earlier, this seems to be an act of defiance against tehran after weeks of the anti-government protests across the country. interestingly that moment was broadcast around the world but not on iranian state tv back home. and take a look at what was going down in the stands, people holding up signs, freedom for iran, the words iran, women like freedom, another sign that we saw. and the team's captain saying in a press conference, we have to accept that the situation in our country is not good and that our people are not happy, they are discontent. it comes as european teams are

abandoning wearing one love arm bands, seen as a gesture of solidarity with marginalized communities and saying the players will not wear the bands out of threat of sanctions. and meagan fitzgerald. so much of the world cup focus is on soccer but in this instance, there is so much more going on beyond the field of play. >> reporter: yes, you're absolutely right. we have been speaking with fans who flew all this way to be a part of this massive event, to kind of get a flavor of what they're feeling and what they're thinking, and look, these fans are paying attention, they understand that this is a collision of sports, with social justice issues, and politics, all wrapped up in one and they are very supportive of the players who are trying in the case of the europeans trying to take a stand against what they believe is the right thing to do. they are in favor of iran, not

singing the national anthem, standing in solidarity with the women in their country, and this game is shrouded in controversy. and it certainly is hard to overlook. but you know, we've got a fan base here that is really embracing that, and really sort of, as you say, rolling with the punches. we asked them about the severe situation, the sudden reversal by fifa not to sell beer in the stadium and you will find some folks who are really upset about that, and not too happy that they flew all the way over here for that and the majority of people i talked to said look, we came here to support our team, we can drink later, hallie. >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you. do not miss by the way our spanish language coverage of the world cup on telemundo, and on peacock, if you are into the soccer side of things. nbc news just confirming right as we were coming on the air that russia and iran have gotten to an agreement to make hundreds of drones on russian soil. these are iranian-designed drones, relatively cheap and

destructive. they changed the war in ukraine, letting russia target cities and destroy infrastructure. nbc news correspondent ellison bar ber is on the ground in kyiv. it is not like russia has a lot of allies, the support for iran, for moscow, it feels significant. >> reporter: yes, very much so. and the time will tell how significant and how vast they can produce these within russia, right, because you think about some of the technology that's needed to manufacture something like this, within russia, both russia and iran are under sanctions that limit the sale of sensitive technology that would be needed for something like this, but this is significant. and if russia is able to produce massive quantities of these drones within russia, and deploy them all across ukraine, it could mean more attacks on critical infrastructure that is far from the front lines, and certainly it would mean more terror and misery for ukrainian citizens. the things about the drones and

the iranian drones that we've seen russia use today is that you, they can travel very far, right but they travel very slowly. they have a sound that people describe as almost like a moped, they're not flying overhead and then firing munitions, they are the munition, and flying slowly, very far and when they hit something, they explode. so what is happening is you have ukrainian civilians in cities like kyiv where the drones have been deployed in the past, seeing them coming, hearing them and having no idea where they will hand and it has terrorized ukrainian citizens because of it. there are people dispersing, running everywhere, trying to guess the safe place where they can seek some sort of refuge. and iran, they have maintained publicly that they are neutral in this war, and initially, when it was first reported in mid september, i believe, that russia appeared to be using these drones and while they changed some of the physical characteristics of it, the paint, things like that, that they were iranian drones, iran

denied that and backtracked and it was drones that we gave to them prior to the war. what exactly this means moving forward, hard to say. and i can tell you, from the use of these types of drones to date, they really haven't done much to change the trajectory on the battle field, right? ukraine just liberated the city of kherson, but what they have done, and what they will likely continue to do, and maybe even on a bigger scale, is terrorize ukrainian civilians in cities all across this country. >> ellison barber live in kyiv for us, thank you. next up a potentially big headache for president biden after the country's rail union rejected a deal that he helped reach. we'll talk about that and its implication with the new white house reporting in just a second. plus, a verdict just coming in now, on the defendant charged with helping to steal nancy pelosi's laptop. we'll take you live back to that courthouse in just a second. u ts that just don't smell clean? downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer

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new reporting just in from our team at the white house, where officials are saying they are, for now, for now, going to avoid getting involved directly to try and stop the huge rail strike that could be coming down the tracks. the administration is also downplaying some comments from president biden earlier today, when he said he would be talking about this whole thing later on this afternoon. so here's where things stand and how it could affect upcoming train travel. one of the country's biggest unions is split over pay, sick leave, scheduling policies on the rail side, and the timing of

all of this is right before holiday travel kicks into full year, and obviously, has major supply chain implications. and if you're thinking wait a second, haven't we been here before? yes, the fourth no vote by unions negotiating with the rail companies this year. and if these groups, the rail companies and the unions cannot iron out a new deal by december 8th you can see unions strike the very next day. i want to bring in mike memoli near the white house. this is, as one goes, go all situation, meaning any one of the big 12 rail unions decides to strike, all 12 of them are going to honor it, meaning mid december, you could see the rail system come to a screeching halt. you have some new reporting from the white house sources on how they're thinking about this from a strategic level, right? >> yes, that's right, and i think a lot of people are looking at this and they're remembering just not long ago, two months ago, in fact, we saw this really almost celebration in the rose garden of the white house then president biden joined by labor secretary marty walsh had representatives from labor, from management, celebrating what looked like a

tentative deal to avert this kind of major shutdown of the freight rail industry. what happened since then is the 12 different labor unions that represent all sort of speaks of the freight rail worker supply chain if you want to call it that had to go in individually and vote to vat fy that agreement. eight of the 12 unions have approved of the deal and four, including one of the largest showed results, narrowly, over 50%, just over 50% voted against the deal and that's why the white house is taking a hands off approach for now, because what with haepgs with the no votes from four of the 12 unions, you have cooling off periods so labor and management can try to iron out and get to a better deal, to avoid the shutdown, and so the white house's hope at this point is that the differences are so small, some of these ratification votes were so close, that they can iron out some of those wrinkles still. what we saw in september is the labor secretary convening, all of the stakeholders, 20 hours of marathon nonstop talks, that's the kind of intervention we

could still see again, if we get to about two weeks from now, and we're still on the verge of a potential shutdown. one other variable though, hallie, i'm hearing about, including from the head of the afl-cio, who i talked to recently about this, she said that congress has a role to play in this, and that is true. under the legislation, congress could actually vote to either extend yet another cooling off period, for labor and management, or they can actually impose the terms of that most recent tentative agreement on the labor union themselves. and here is the statement we got from the white house official, and reiterating that the president believes a shutdown would be unacceptable, but as they put it, the unions, the majority of those unions have in fact voted to ratify the deal, and the best option is still for the parties to resolve that themselves at this point. so hoping that the sort of urgency of the moment prevails here, on both sides, and both sides get to a deal. >> mike, outside the white house for us, thank you. speaking of the urge sif the moment, it is almost thanksgiving, right and the holiday season is set to be the priciest one for folks, for

people who are traveling, we've ever seen. millions of people all around the country are getting ready to make their first holiday trip, some of them since before the pandemic hit and a lot of them will be paying big time for very full flights. even with about 55 million travelers on the road, we're still just shy of what we saw in the pre-pandemic time. sam brock is at miami international airport. sam, i'm asking this not as selfish person who is set to travel the day before tlg but my job as an anchor here on msnbc, what is the expectation? how bad is it going to be? oorp of course, you're just curious for the maps. i was in your neck of the woods, and in miami today, both of the airports here are running like well-oiled machines and if you give you a broad brush stroke of what is going on across the country, 2,000 delays and roughly 60 cancellations, that is a typical day. the question is how will things look 24 hours ago, with the

busiest travel for the thanksgiving holiday. tuesday, wednesday, and the sunday to return, those are the busiest days. now we have seen a paradigm shift from airlines, and ul the way -- all the way back to memorial day with a cataclysmic disruption, with adding pilots and staffing for all of the demand that is there, and just a couple of tips if you're hitting the roads and specifically flying, what you want to do is book the the earliest possible flights, those arrive 95% of the sometime and later in the day, 65% mid to late afternoon. that is a big difference. and do not take, or do take a kairnz, do not pack your badge and sent it there into your baggage claim unless you are worried that you might be spending a few hours or days waiting to try to get that back pag. carry on if possible. that is the most important piece of advice i could possibly provide you. hallie? >> thanks, sam. my 17 bags i'm about to check, thank you for that. sam brock, thank you. we have breaking news back here in dc, developing news i

should say. we were talking about this verdict in a key january 6th case, riley williams, she is the rioter accused of leading the mob to house speaker nancy pelosi's office. she has been found guilty on six counts but the jury was not able to get to a verdict in two charge, specifically the theft of government property, in other words the speaker's laptop. ryan reilly. we thought this was coming. the jury had come in. the judge sent them back. basically a mistrial on two counts and guilty on six counts. help us understand the verdict and what it means. >> reporter: that's right. the charges in relation to the laptop, aiding and abetting the theft of pelosi's laptop and essentially what the prosecution words were her words of encouragement while she was going into the speaker's conference room and recording, it helped the crime but she wasn't actually physically taking possession of the laptop, even though that is what she had

claimed sort of afterwards to her friends. and she said she stole a hard drive and a gavel from the speaker's conference room, but it was not, it wasn't enough evidence necessarily of that for the jurors to reach a conviction on that count here. and also, she also avoided a conviction on the most serious count, which had the most potential prison exposure, i would would have been to the obstruction of justice count. but nevertheless, with the six convictions, just a few moments ago inside the courtroom, prosecutors asked for her to be taken into custody immediately and the judge will weigh on that at any moment and they referred to it, it is referred to as stepping someone back, and taken into custody by the u.s. marshals and detained until her actual sentencing, which will be about 90 days from now based on the court's schedule. we will find out momentarily whether or not she will actually have consequences immediately for her conviction on the six counts that we saw her. >> ryan reilly, thank you very much. still ahead, new details from an nbc news investigation into brett favre, the football

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another way that he is allegedly ooh misusing welfare money in the state of mississippi, with $2 million in federal funding from the state that was meant for families to lift them out of poverty but the money was apparently used for human trials of nasal spray to treat concussions. since 2018. the research hasn't gone all that far yet. four years later there is no data on whether this spray actually works. and keep in mind that favre has been under fire and under investigation for also misusing mississippi welfare money for college sports facilities in a separate multi-million dollar fraud scheme. nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian is driving the story forward for us and is joining us now. hey, ken. >> we will have more tonight on "nightly news" but this is kind of an unexplored aspect of the mississippi welfare scheme and we node $5 million from a volleyball facility and another million, and this is now $2 million that went to a florida drug company to study an

unproven concussion nasal spray that was supposedly going to reduce brain swelling. but the experts we spoke to say there is no evidence that this works, four years later no evidence it works in humans, it has been one layer of study that shows it doesn't do harm, and the company that is currently trying to market the drug, our financial analyst looked at the paperwork and said this company is in dire financial straits. and in addition to being a scandal and illegal according to the state aud thor, it was a bad business deal. take a listen to the state auditor who blew the whistle on this. >> what's wrong with using welfare money to help fund the development of a concussion drug? >> even if the concussion treatment had been a viable real treatment for concussions you cannot spend welfare money intended for the poor on a situation like this. >> and it was promoted even as

other famous athletes had cut ties, such as abby wambach, in the midst of the scandal. >> any word from brett favre's team? >> former trump adviser did not return phone calls and he is grateful for the fans and support and the truth will come out in time. ken dilanian, more on the ""nbc nightly news" with lester moment at 6:30 eastern on the local nbc news station. don't miss it. just looking at the clock. 11 minutes or so until the closing bell, with the disney stock up after a big and surprising change in the leadership lineup for the company, with former disney ceo bob leadership. but former ceo bob iger back at the hell. and his former hand-picked successor bob chapek out. he might be thinking how did disney get here. there's that disastrous account

that led for cnbc's jim cramer to call for a firing, watch. >> he's got to be fired. that's cut and dried. >> you're firing chapek? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> crammer can't do it, but disney can. last year, he came under fire for how he handled scarlett johansson's pay dispute by releaing black widow on disney plus. in march, disney was criticized for not speaking out against florida's don't say gay law. leading employees to walk back in march. and over the summer, disney made enemies by telling die-hard fans that profits would have been more had it not been for unattended mix. reporting on that, on disney and the move, we've talked about that on the other show about

what this means, et cetera, one of your takeaways is nobody really looks good here. explain why? >> yeah, it's not that bob iger isn't the right person to lead this company. he certainly may be, and i think a lot of disney employees are very happy he's coming back. but the process to get here has been so awkward and sort of full of deceit, that i don't think any party's involved look particularly good. start with the disney board. it's been less than five months since the disney board renewed bob chapek's contract for another about 2 1/2 years or so. saying publicly that bob chapek is the right man to lead disney at the right time. now, less than five months later, he's out of a job, so the disney board looks either deceitful at best in that they said they had confidence in him where he really didn't, or clumsy at worse where they're

now firing him and paying him tens of millions of dollars in severance. bob iger has said repeatedly publicly, he will not come back to this job. yet, here we are, and he is in fact coming back. one sort of negative thing about iger that people talk about in terms of being a ceo, he's not very good at secession planning. three times he planned his retirement, leading several people who were thought to be the heir apparentapparent, to l company and bob chapek being removed and in comes iger once more. and chapek comes across as a ceo whose tenor will be led with the don't say gay, and scarlett johansson outing her salary. and just recently in the fourth quarter, a big streaming loss. and subsequently, the stock

falling. before today, it was down more than 40% this year and that will sort of be his legacy. >> so, iger is coming back, and the idea, the thinking is that now he'll kick the next successor, and hopefully, that person will have better luck than bob chapek, right? >> that's the irony here, right, disney is now turning the company over to bob iger, whose one flaw as a ceo guy, i guess you could say, his lack of ability to pick a successor and now they're saying hey, pick a successor for us. bob iger is a little over 70 years old. he's on for two more years, maybe he stays on two more years, maybe that's his track record? >> what does this mean for disney -- nothing -- >> i think it means something. i think bob iger has a much better relationship with both creatives externally and internally. one of the major moves that bob chapek i hear disagreed with was

reorganizing the company to pull out budgetary responsibilities away from the creatives. in other words, the people that were in charge of making the content didn't have the power of the purse to decide how much to spend on that content anymore. that decision was made by his individual colleen daniel who reported to bob chapek. he was basically the right hand man. it's likely that bob iger will undo that change and giving back to the creative forces at disney. and incognitoer has been a champion for the creative side, even when he left at ceo, he was in charge of creative on that side. he didn't totally leave the company. it's a win overall, at least for morale. >> alex sherman from cnbc, good to have you on, alex. appreciate it. we should note, too, by the way, as we're talking about things that are happening as we head into thanksgiving week, what comes into thanksgiving, that is christmas.

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