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final briefing from the white house podium. dr. fauci urged americans to get vaccinated one last time before he stepped down as the head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. his public service has spent decades, from the aids crisis to the ebola outbreak. but anthony fauci did not truly become a household name until the coronavirus pandemic that began in the spring of 2020. during the past two years, dr. fauci has faced soaring infection numbers, still mutating virus, and continuing rapid dangerous disinformation from some of those on the far-right. today, the 81 year old brooklyn native, we just highschooler alumni, and former point guard was asked how he would like to be remembered. >> i'll let other people judge the value are not of my accomplishments. but what i would like people to remember about what i have done is that every day, for all of
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those years, i've given everything that i've had and i've never left anything on the field. so they want to remember me whether they judge rightly or wrongly what i have done, i gave it all i got for many decades! >> he gave it is all! and we will forever appreciate him and his sacrifices and courage. so i will say it again, with all my heart, thank you dr. fauci! and on that note, i wish you all a very good night! from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. we are off tomorrow night, have a safe and happy holiday. i will see you monday night! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i saw the night, off during the 2016 campaign, donald trump gave a plethora of excuses as to why he would break decades of precedent and not releas his tax returns returns.
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he said repeatedly, and being audited so i can't. then he offered this classic one quote, i don't think anybody cares. it was this one quote, the only ones that care about my tax returns are the reporters. he even said a handful of times quote, there's nothing to learn from them. now house democrats did not agree with any of that. in fact, during his presidency there were multiple house committee requests of trump's tax returns all to no avail. but one committee, the ways and means committee, a very powerful committee in congress, because it is a committee that oversees tax policies in taxes in general, they had something other committees did not have. it is written in federal law that the chairman could request any taxpayers tax returns. so, they had the law on their side with their requests. in april, 2019 when the house ways and means committee's chairs requested six years of
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then president donald trump's enterprises tax returns, it seemed at the time like an open and shut case. chairman richard neil explained at the time that his committee needed to examine trump's tax returns or quote, legitimate legislative legal and oversight purposes. to examine the irs's policy of auditing the tax returns of sitting presidents to see what, if any laws, needed to be amended or clarified. to no one's surprise the trump treasury department refused to hand them over, and as you can imagine a legal battle ensued. but then something happened in 2021. a new president took office and a deal was reached with the committee to finally get those tax returns. and then as again, you can imagine, trump sued the committee to block them from obtaining those tax returns. and finally, today after a long court battle, today, just today--the committee finally got their answer. the supreme court of the united
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states in a two sentence order denied trump's request to block the tax returns from being handed over. trump's last-ditch attempt to stop the committee from obtaining those tightly held tax returns failed. and now the committee is cleared to get those six years worth of tax returns from donald trump and some of his businesses. but it's not exactly clear as to when they will get those tax returns. while that all is welcomed news for house democrats, the reality is the clock is ticking in terms of what legislative priorities the committee can recommend by examining trump's tax returns. in just 42 days, the new republican controlled congress will be sworn in and democrats will officially be in the minority, meaning in political terms, republicans as they have said will shut down that request for the tax returns. tik tok. over in one of the federal investigations into trump today, federal appeals court in atlanta heard arguments in the justice department's appeal of
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the special master appointment. you know, the special master who is reviewing the governments records that were found at mar-a-lago. now, justice department today calling the appointment today and intrusion, arguing that the trump nominating judge in florida should never have appointed special master in the first place. the three judge panel of the 11th circuit court of appeals seem poised to agree with the government and tossed out that special master order. here's the washington post report about today's arguments. in part, reading quote chief judge william prior seem to criticize trump's team for asking for a special master without proving that the initial search was illegal. if you can't establish that it was unlawful, he said, then what are we doing here? ouch! look, we don't know when a ruling will be handed down, it could come at anytime, but the fact that in the last 42 days of being in a majority,
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democrats have finally cleared the way to obtain six years of trump and his tax businesses and their tax returns that is a big deal. period. what could they learn? what are they planning on doing with that information and most importantly, when will they get their hands on those tax returns? joining me now is congressman bill pascrell of new jersey. he's a member of the house and ways and means committee and chair of its subcommittee on oversight. congressman pascrell, thank you so much for being here. a very significant development today. let me start with this pressing question that i think is on everyone's mind: when do you expect your committee to receive donald trump's tax returns and will it be before the end of the session of congress? >> it better be ayman. [laughter] it better be. we have waited 1329 days. since the beginning of the litigation.
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i'm telling you, it's going to be the first subject comes up at our first meeting when we get back from thanksgiving. it has to happen. i already talked to the chairman of our committee richard neil, who's done a great job in using a very deliberative and fair approach. this is not about one man. this is about the constitution. we say it all the time. do we mean it? we are showing that we mean it! i started this quest in february of 2017. i've introduced with my brothers and sisters in the congress 18 resolutions! i asked the chairman of the ways and means committee at that time, my very good friend from texas, i asked the chairman, let's do this together! in february of 2017, president
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has already been sworn in. let's do it together. any question of partisanship. he laughed at me! i guess i should've known better. but i pursued it because that's my job. when i am elected, when i was elected 25 years ago, my job was to work for the american people, not only in the district i was elected, but for the entire country. we don't have a constitution for every district. this is the same constitution for the entire nation. and i'm proud of what we've done and i intend to pursue guaranteed a week from today when we get back into the congress, that will be the first question on my mind when ways and means committee meats. we are not going to joke around. nobody is above the law! hear me. read my lips mister president
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former! >> yeah, very important words. obviously oversight is an incredible part of this. you just outlined that this is been years in the making. my question to you realistically, when democrats get their hands on this, or when the congress committee gets their hands on this, you're only going to be in power for a few more weeks. realistically, what can ways and means do with the information the committee leans from these tax returns? >> well, 6103, subsection j, subsection sorry f is very clear. we are not allowed to scream to the heavens when we get this document. we have to honor, it's confidential, we will decide one way or another what will be made public. and i believe that the entire nation should have the main knowledge from this report of what happened, and how did the president of the united states
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use the jive about having an audit of his own prevent him from telling us or showing us, like every president since richard nixon--show and have his income tax returns made public. we will decide that. we can't just go willy nilly and we're not going to do it. we will utter the law and that's why when i dusted off 61 or three back in 2017, no one understood what the heck i was talking about. because when you're dealing with tax law, you have to understand that it's not just about how you put a budget together or whether you tax people or don't. it's the law itself! there are some caveats, there are some very important messages in the tax code that's over 100 years old, before we
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even had income tax! our brothers and sisters back then knew what they were talking about! the public needs to be protected! so when nixon said, i'm not a crook, we'll show us that you're in your tax returns. we want to know if there's any special interest in there. the public has a right to know that. the public has a right to know whether you invested in another country. this country knows right now with the knowledge that has been put in the papers, without having the taxes in front of us, we know that richard nixon, donald trump made deals with the oligarchs in europe, all over the world. and what are the commitments that he made to mr. putin? or the oligarchs in the soviet union? what are those commitments to. that's another day, so i'm telling you when answering your question, we will be on this next week. we are already on it discussing
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it, when we get back into committee for we will do this. ayman, this is critical for the nation. this is a big deal! this is something very important. >> i was gonna say, indeed, all very important questions and allegations worth looking into. we will see after next week what comes of these tax returns. congressman bill pascrell, chair of the subcommittee in the ways and means committee, thank you so much for joining us tonight. greatly appreciate it. i want to turn out to neal katyal, former acting solicitor general during the obama administration of professor law georgetown university. neal, it's great to see you again. thank you so much for being here tonight. let me hone in on trump's tax returns for a moment. is it surprising to you that the court cleared the way for the house like this? >> it's not surprising ayman. not a single justice decended today, says a lot about trump's application. it reminds us what our chief
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justice john roberts was in practice and one day call his clients that i got bad news for you, we lost 9 to 0. and the client says, how could that have happened? and john roberts, without missing a beat says, well it's because there weren't ten justices on the supreme court. [laughter] >> and for donald trump today the weren't ten justices on the supreme court, you would've lost all ten. the third time is lost at the supreme court this year, most notably losing to the january six committee on executive privilege 8 to 1. it's significant because he's been trying to hide these tax returns for over three and a half years, first modern president to do so and the supreme court was having none of it. not surprising. >> so neal, on the hearing today in the 11th circuit court of appeals in atlanta over the appointment of the special master in the mar-a-lago case which is the other case we have been tracking, you tweeted, you don't think you've heard an oral argument go worse for someone. why do you think the hearing went so poorly for trump?
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you just described all the legal setbacks he's had this year and a host of different fronts. now you have this one today, and you're describing it as pretty bad. >> yeah. this is what deals with say, this is a totally different thing than the tax returns. this is about the mar-a-lago investigation where trump stole a bunch of documents, highly classified and otherwise. he went to a judge that he basically shopped for that he said i need a special master. and you got that special master, but the government said, hey we're gonna appeal this thing, and today was the appeal this thing. >> we are following breaking news out of chesapeake virginia, people say multiple people were killed after a shooting took place in a walmart store. several more people are set to be injured, according to early reports. there was a single shooter who is believed at this point to be dead. the first report of the shooting came in at about 10:12
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pm eastern tonight. joining us now to discuss, jim kavanaugh, retired special agent in charge and former hostage and associated for the atf. jim, i don't have very limited information. so do we. what is your response thus far? >> well it looks like, it looks like it might be some contained in the area, based on the colorado spring shooting. so close in time, of course we have another place where people are at a late night hour and we don't know, stephanie, quite who the victims are or the employees of the store or customers, or both, with the story open or close at that hour? we don't know quite exactly at that point. so that could be maybe tell us something but you know it's just a horrible case, we are learning about multiple fatalities. once again -- >> from a police perspective, we are just looking at images of the store.
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a walmart store is a massive, massive footprint! what is the first thing that police do when they enter a building like this with multiple entrances, multiple back exits? >> yeah, exactly. what it is is really all armed patrol in the initial stages. what i mean by that is the patrol officers who are patrolling our neighborhoods in their cars and around. it takes 20 to 40 men to get a swat team there, and these things all unfold within the first 3 to 6 minutes. so the responding officers who are in the action are the uniform patrol, and they are swarming in their based on the training that we all took years ago, post columbine. so they are swarming into the open doors. we all know that what the storms are like. we have been in them. there's two or three and business in the front, usually,
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and the officers, as they get two or three officers, 3 to 6, 6 to 9 officers, they start going in all of those doors and sweeping and trying to engage the killer and stop the killings. that is the initial action that takes place sometimes -- you know like we saw in colorado, springs, the heroic patron who saved everybody else. but in this case, we don't quite know how it all unfolded. >> jim, i want you to stay close, i want to bring into this conversation leo kaczynski, he's a chesapeake police department public information officer. he is joining me now. let's get some more information. leo, are you there? >> yes ma'am, i can hear you! >> i am so sorry for what you are facing tonight. what can you tell us about the shooting? >> so it looks like around tuesday evening, around ten, 12, we responded to that walmart located on sam circle here in the new city chesapeake.
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then a call came in reporting a shooting, was the initial officers came, and we were quickly able to ascertain and that is an active threat. we middle ages to our active that response which is well within our training, kind of our way that we do things. over the course of the next 30 or so minutes, multiple responding patrol officers flawed officers with the help of a fire department able to provide tactical lifesaving measures to injured persons. unfortunately we were not able to save, multiple fatalities, multiple injuries. we can say that there is -- right now, it looks that it appears to be a single shooter and that single shooter is deceased at this time. any the very active scene right now, investigators are still on the scene, we are still sweeping the building, we are looking for other victims that maybe hadn't or you know scared, or whatever. so, very fluid, very active scene right now. >> so i have a number of questions. you say the shooter at this point is deceased -- was that one of the officers on
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hand who shot him? is that how he died? >> i do not believe so, but i cannot -- i cannot definitely confirm that. >> and it's a male, correct? >> i do not know that for sure, either. >> got it, we just know that it is a shooter, or was a shooter, the shooter is now deceased. you said multiple fatalities, do you know how many? >> i do not have a number right now, no ma'am. >> do you know how many people have been injured are taken to area hospitals? >> a fortunately, i do not know, no ma'am. >> at this, point are the people still inside the store? >> only police officers, the store has been evacuated. >> can you describe the area to us? i know the call came just after 10 pm. how busy would the store be around that time and really tell us about chesapeake, how active things are? you know how busy things are? >> yeah -- i'm not really sure how busy it was, it is a walmart super center, open 24 hours a day, 70s, awake and that time of the night in this area, it's kind
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of a shopping business district. it's hard to say -- we are a couple days before the thanksgiving holiday, all of the last minute shoppers were going to be there. i haven't gotten any reports on how many people were inside, and is not sure, i apologize! >> do we know -- and i'm guessing that you don't, but i want to ask -- the multiple fatalities, do we know if it's store employees? >> i do not know. >> do we know much about the kind of weapon or weapons that were used? >> no ma'am, i do not. >> from here, what's happened over the next hour? where is the investigation go? >> once we can verify that the building is secure, that there is no other hidden gunmen, so to speak, it gets turned over to our criminal investigation, the forensic section, and i just do a poll -- i just like the basically like any other, we work in the homicide, active shooter type, the group of investigation at that point. >> do you know at this point if the shooter acted alone?
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did he or she come into a car? is there a vehicle with other guns or weapons? >> we do not believe so. we believe the shooter was alone, but we are not one of the center. that's the part of the investigation. we have to realize, we are just a little bit over two hours into it, so we have way more questions than answers right now. >> understood. but -- at this point, given that it appears that that shooter did act alone and they are deceased, at this point, would you say there is a public threat or not? >> we are not treating it as a public that, no ma'am. we believe that it was a single shooter and that shooter is deceased. >> how many people do we know have been taken out who were injured? do you have any idea of that, you know how many area hospitals will be expecting to be getting injured people in the next few minutes? >> while they have already been there by now, and i do not have that number. all the injured and transported were transported a while ago. there are no longer still pulling injured out of those people that we know who were
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injured, there's already been transported. >> so as i am looking at live images of that walmart super center, who is not? there is just police? anybody in the store, any employees, they have already left and gone home? >> no, any person that was on the scene or witnesses, so any witnesses that would have been on saying that would have been moved to a safe location. we have a staging area for them to be followed up, they will be followed up with the criminal investigators. anybody who's inside that's running right now would be with police, forensics, basically and parts of the people that were involved in the investigation. >> help us understand who would be involved? as we are looking at images, right? i can see flashing lights all over the screen. obviously the chesapeake police department is there, who else is there? >> which in a state police is assisting, and then a virginia police is sitting here whip traffic control. >> and you are on the scene, sir? >> yes ma'am. >> can i ask you, what did you witnessed when you arrive? did you go inside the store
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yourself? >> no, i didn't. i didn't witness. matt i'm gonna cut the short, i can do two more questions, real quick, and i'll have to go. i have a lot of meeting up here -- >> you know, what i'm going to let you go. i understand you have a lot more serious business to handle. >> yes ma'am. >> i appreciate you joining us, please let us know any other information -- thank you so much for joining us tonight. i really appreciate it! >> yes ma'am, thank you! >> teresa for viewers who are tuning in, early this evening at about 10:12 pm, a call was made to the chesapeake 9-1-1 call was made to chesapeake police -- a shooting took place at a walmart super center and chesapeake, virginia. we know that there's been multiple deaths, there have been multiple injuries. the shooter is now deceased. we do not know the sex of the shooter. we do not know a motive. nothing about it -- it is not a current active threat at this point. we know a number of people have been taken to area hospitals. the store, at this point, has
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been evacuated. as i said, a walmart superstar that will be open 24/7, so the store was open. we do not know how busy it was, we do not know how many people were in the store, but i'm asked shooting has been reported with multiple casualties. but in a state senator, louise lucas, who represent that portion of chesapeake's chaired a statement earlier tonight saying this, quote, absolutely heartbroken that america's latest mass shooting took place in a walmart in my district in chesapeake, virginia, tonight. i will not rest until we find the solutions to this gun violence epidemic in our country that has taken so many lives. remember, this is happening just several days after the mass shooting that took place at club q and colorado, the colorado springs colorado. a shooting that took the lives of five people, injured 19
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others, a shooting where a couple of civilians and set up stopping the shooter from what could have been a significantly, significantly worse situation. that shouldn't has been released from the hospital this evening. is expected to appear virtually, in court tomorrow. we don't know anything, at this point, about motive in that shooting. we don't know anything about the motive in tonight's shooting. but as we're tired atf officer, jim kavanaugh, said moments -- this is likely -- the shooting that we are seeing tonight is a likely part of the aftermath, a reverberation after saturday nights shooting and colorado. obviously a devastating night in chesapeake, virginia. jim kavanaugh is back with us. jim -- hopefully you heard the conversation i just had with the information officer in virginia. what are your thoughts after hearing from him? >> well i think that they have got it, it's a real hot stain, stephanie, but what they have is kind of settled down because they believe is just one active
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killer and he is deceased. so they kind of -- they what's real hot on them, they are still searching, looking for any other people in the store room that might have been a victims or are hiding. but then what they have to do, this is how it's going to proceed -- you don't know if other homicides preceded this attack. so, a person or a killer like this could have killed someone in their home, relatives, girlfriends, boyfriends, mother, father, in their home or even in their neighborhood. and then went out on a killing spree. so they have to go back to the home and make sure that there is nobody injured. they have to go to the vehicle in the parking lot and make sure that it's not rigged with explosives. they have to do the same thing at the home. so that is the still hot nature of this for chesapeake pd. but at the scene, instantly, they've got a calmed down and now. now it's emergency, you know,
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procedures for the injured, settling that down, getting the on scene commanders to make sure there is no other players with this guy. make sure that his body is not strapped with explosives. his car, which may be outside, it's not great with explosives or his home. so that's still the instant problem for the on scene commanders. >> it sounded as though, in the first comments that we got from the information officer, almost as though he was saying -- and i don't want to jump to conclusions, maybe this was a copycat or inspired by what's happened in colorado. i mean it was just a few days ago -- >> yeah, well i think clearly it's a contain -- we call it a contagion, you know -- people a lot of people unfortunately who sit idolizing killers. and it's at the front of their forehead. they are on the web, they are in the span some dark communities, they idolize these killers. and they kind of live in this fantasy world and they are on
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the edge of things all the time with that. they are going through the motions of live but they are obsessed with this thing, with this mass killing. and then when they see something like that, i don't like to use the word triggered -- but it's, you know it's a little bit of inspiration for them to move on their obsessions. so that they may already have the firearms, they may have already required the firearms, and like we talked and -- ♪ ♪ ♪ colorado springs, a lot of times there is no passing the events -- there is no escape plan, there is no my life is going to go on at this plan. if this guy committed suicide, which many of them do, that is it! that's the whole thing for him! it's the end -- suicide often is -- is very tied to these events. that is something that we have to always watch for and try to
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stop one ahead of time. somebody who is suicidal. we hear the word mental illness thrown out, but that's only a very few instances. we really get different motives, stephanie, like as you know, and colorado springs, they're looking deeply out a hate motive. that's not mental illness. i don't think this is mental illness, haters, you know that's not mental illness, it's repulsive but it's not mental illness. here, what we have, we don't know what we have but oftentimes we do have suicide as a part of it. one indicator of that maybe if the guy who are women, very slight chance it's a woman, it does happen but it's very slight, is there a suicide here? or the police, the patrol, with a tactical rifles, as per the training, swiftly and engagement kill? we don't know what the answer is yet. >> one walmart of our store employee told our local
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affiliate quotes, thank goodness i showed up late tonight! >> tomorrow is going to be one day before thanksgiving. if this person was inspired by what's happened in colorado, and again, we don't know the motive in colorado, what does law enforcement do? right? we always have law enforcement what do they do? how do you prepare for something like this? no one obviously saw this coming -- >> yeah. well, law enforcement prepares to the limits that they can. i think when they respond to an active shooter with seems like what chesapeake pd did tonight, and what colorado springs pd did the other night is respond as best that's any force can. they are quick, they engage, they go right in, they put their selves in harm's way, they try to stop the killing. that's -- that's the present tense of stopping an active killer. the other questions are what
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you do before the act of killing? those questions are longer and deeper. >> and of course, we didn't even mention it. we are coming to a few days after the colorado shooting, but it was one week ago this devastating shooting took place at the university of virginia in charlottesville, virginia, which took the lives of three uva football players. jim, we are going to leave it there. just a recap for our audience. a number of fatalities in chesapeake, virginia, tonight after a shooting took place in a chesapeake walmart superstore. a story that was set to be open 24 hours a day, the call came in at 10:12 pm. multiple deaths, multiple injuries, the shooter is believed to be deceased. jim, thank you for joining us, for you at home we are gonna stay on top of this breaking news throughout the night and bring you updates as they come in. thank you. u. it's not time to escape.
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today, the colorado springs community continues to mourn the five lives lost at club q on saturday night. while many survivors continues recovering in nearby hospitals. one of those survivors named anthony was accompanied by his spouse, jeremy, as he spoke to the press from a wheelchair about what happened to him that night. he was injured and two of his friends were killed. what he has been going through ever since: >> first time something happened like this to me, but i just want to say that we are all strong. the community is strong, and we will all get through this. i lost two of my dear friends
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in this shooting, and being in here, i could not go to any vigils. they took everything away, as if they were trying to take my life as well. >> anthony, who has decided to keep his full name private is one of several survivors remain in the hospital receive a treatment after saturday's attack. earlier today, i spoke with another survivor, 63-year-old ed sanders, who was still in the hospital after being shot in the torso multiple times on saturday, he was just there for a night out with a friend. >> ed, thank you so much for being with us tonight, i know you must be going through so much. we greatly appreciate your time -- >> my pleasure. >> first, tell me how you are feeling physically, mentally, as you focus on your recovery? >> mentally, i put it off until i get out of the hospital. i think i can grieve privately, but i knew four of the victims,
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and kelly was the one that was standing next to me who did not make it, and derek and daniel were standing to the right of me and did not make it. so, i am very grateful to be alive. >> we are very grateful as well. and again, i'm very sorry that everything you had to experience and what you are going through. my heart goes out to you and everyone else. what do you remember about that night? what do you remember seeing and hearing when the shooting started? how did you and the people around you tried to care for each other once the shooting stopped?
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>> well, i first got hit in the back. i turned around and looked at him. the first volley was over after the first hit, and then the second volley got my leg, and i collapsed onto kelly and wyatt. wyatt is one of the performers there. she does comedy routines. we were just quite at first, people were calling for tournequets helping each other and somebody check on me, and i said i was okay but the lady next to me was in bad shape, kelly, and we tried to
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encourage her to breathe, and she faded away pretty fast. >> i can tell how emotional this is-- >> -- and it was chaotic, the police officer applied my tourniquet, and then four of them carried me out. they triaged us in the parking lot, and the ambulances were waiting, and they took me pretty quickly because my leg was bleeding out, and--it's a blur from there, the ambulance ride, and the e. d. people were so wonderful. i can't praise them enough. >> ed, i can tell how emotional this is by hearing it in your voice. you obviously knew people that
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were there and you called club q and everyone who goes there your family. you knew some of the people who worked there pretty well -- >> they are family. >> tell me more about what club q meant to you and everyone has been time there? >> i have been going there since they opened 20 years ago, and 2010, when i moved closer to club q, i became a regular. i go a couple times a week to support the drag shows and then we have bingo on wednesdays that i support. i call bingo sometimes, and it just meant the world to me. it's like home, home away from home. i am close to my family in missouri, but club q filled the
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void of not having family in town, and it still does. they're wonderful people, i just can't say enough about their community here. is very close knit, and everybody knows everybody, and we treat each other like brothers and sisters. >> ed, what would you like to say to all the people that were at club q, and what do you want to say to everyone around the country who is watching this about club q? >> well, club q is an example of love--they love their customers, they love their family, it's just about love, and i want to say to other people that have lgbtq friends
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that they need a little love right now, they need a kind post on their facebook or whatever. reach out to your friends and your family that are lgbtq right now--i think it's more than appreciated. >> ed sanders, thank you very much for your time tonight, we are praying and wishing you a speedy recovery, and to everyone else, thank you so much ed. >> thank you. >> up next, the midterm elections aren't quite over, and in arizona, election fraud conspiracies have sent one election official into hiding as republicans continue to delay the certification of key races that have been called. we will talk with the democrat who is leading the race for attorney general by just over 500 votes. stay with us!
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candidates on the country have already admitted defeat. arizona is a different story, two weeks after election day, you have republican kari lake still hanging on, blaming her loss on voter disenfranchisement without providing any evidence. her campaign sent this fund raising email to supporters today asking them to chip in,
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so she can, quote, make sure that republicans know that their ballot may not have been counted. kari lake is not the only one using these kinds of claims to their advantage. in cochise county, the republican controlled board of supervisors voted to delay certification of election results after conspiracy theorists persuaded them that their voting machines were not certified. unsurprisingly, these men were also part of an effort to get the arizona election in 2020 thrown out. coaches county supervisors will certify those results on the state deadline next monday. in mojave county, republicans where supervisors ask no complaints for their own election director but they have decided to delay certification anyway as a protest against election voting issues in maricopa county. maricopa county was the epicenter for election denialism back in 2020 and the glitches that affected dozens
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of voter tabulater machines during this election have renewed false claims of corruption. now, the efforts of the county top election officials to push back on those claims have made him a target. he was moved to an undisclosed location for a night with a assigned security detail after someone made a specific threat against him on social media. despite technical issues and threats, maricopa county finished its ballot count and updated the tally of arizona's outstanding race state attorney general. those results should democrat chris mays with a narrow lead of just 510 votes over republican abraham hamadeh, activating an automatic recount next month. the republicans in this race appear to be playing from a well known handbook. abe hamadeh is a trump endorsed candidate who promised on the campaign trail that he would prosecute and jail election officials over their handling of the 2020 election. he even tweeted this image of handcuffs alluding to arrest
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and saying that a quote, day of reckoning was coming when he took office. does that sound familiar to you? joining us now is democratic candidate for arizona, attorney general, christ mayze. miss mays, thank you so much for being here and making time for us tonight. lots of concerning developments i would say taking place in arizona right now. how are you feeling going into this recap? >> thanks for having me, ayman, it's great to be with you. we are really confident going into the recount. as you know, we are up by 510 votes. we feel good about it, we feel as though the people of arizona has spoken loud and clear against these election deniers, against these dangerous candidates up and down the bell in arizona, as you just talked about, people who quite frankly don't believe in democracy, and
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i think the people of arizona came through for the country, and american democracy ran through the state of arizona, so we feel good about it. obviously, we have a re-count coming up. we will go through that process, but for the most part, recounts don't overturn elections, generally speaking, so we feel good about it but boy, it was so important that we win this election. >> you're beginning to see, as i was saying there, that this election denialism is beginning to percolate back again, and your opponent has not been shy about his view on the outcome of the 2020 election, which raises questions about what will happen now? do you believe he will accept the results of this recount? >> you know, i don't know, ayman, and you are right, it really boggles the mind some of the things that he has set on the campaign trail. he has numerous times said that the 2020 election was rigged.
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he has already questioned this election. i don't know what he will do. i hope it does the right thing but at the end of the day, this is a legal process, a process that is well established in arizona. arizona has fantastic elections, very well run elections. our election officials are terrific. as you pointed out during your lead in, we have election officials who are literally having to go into hiding, that because of the death threats that they are experiencing. when i am attorney general of arizona, we will put an end to that. i will prosecute anyone who engages in death threats, against election officials. law and order includes protecting our election officials, our volunteers, regular citizens to participate in the democratic process. that kind of behavior just has to stop.
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>> can i ask you, miss mayes, finally, as you mention, if you become, the result holds and he becomes the attorney general, arizona has become ground zero for election denialism, how will you take on these challenges if you become attorney general? >> you know, ayman, we start by saying that i will be the attorney general for all of the people of arizona, whether you're a republican, a democrat or independent. i will be a lawyer for the people, for all of the people of arizona. we really have to come together. we have to go out and do a lot of education, go out and come together as a community around our election system and make sure that people know that our people know -- arizona counties and county recorders and election officials run fantastic elections, so it will be a long process to get over the situation that we have been put in by donald trump and by his acolytes and his followers, but we will get there. we will get there in arizona
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and across the country. >> democratic candidate for arizona, attorney general, krist mayes, thank you so much for your time tonight. up next, dr. anthony fauci is about to retire, but he is one last message for all of us before he goes. that is next, stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ go for 10 runs! run a marathon. instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infection, some serious and a lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reaction may occur. best move i've ever made. ask your dermatologist about cosentyx®.
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value or not of my accomplishments. what i would like people to remember about what i have done is that every day, for all of those years, i've given everything that i've had and i've never let anything on the field. >> today, after nearly 40 years as the nation's top infectious disease expert, doctor anthony fauci gave what is probably his last briefing from the white house podium before he steps down in early december from his positions as chief medical adviser or officer to president biden and director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. dr. fauci's korea has been marked by exceptional
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accomplishments. he's been a key figure in the fight of hiv a.i.d.s., most recently against the covid-19 pandemic. he reflected on that ladder today. telling reporters that combatting misinformation and disinformation was probably one of the hardest parts of the pandemic response. dr. fauci then talked about his own personal battle between the trump administration to correct those who without medical expertise provided dubious advice to the american people. u.s. or scientist to speak out more and made one final pick for people to get vaccinated amid rising cases of covid, flu, and rsv. >> so my message and my final message may be the final message i gave you from this podium [laughter] please, for you on safety, that of your family, get your updated covid-19 shots as soon as we're eligible, to protect yourself and your family, your community. >> some important words to live by. that does it for us tonight! we will see you again tomorrow.
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