right now on "andrea mitchell reports," another tragedy. six more innocent lives lost in a horrific mass shooting, this time inside a walmart in chesapeake, virginia, devastating families ahead of the holiday. >> we are saddened at the tragedy that took place in our community last night. we are all praying for the family, friends and co-workers of everyone that's affected by this senseless violence. >> we will have expert analysis

on the challenges facing prosecutors ahead of the first virtual court appearance by the suspect facing five counts of murder for the mass shooting at an lgbtq nightclub in colorado springs. also this hour, house republicans prepare to take on the biden administration when they retake the majority in january. the former president combats numerous legal and political challenges, including the supreme court now clearing the way for house democrats to get their hands on six years of his tax returns. and i will speak to dr. john torres as families across the nation fear a potential tripledemic of flu, covid and rsv. good day. i'm chris jansing in new york in for andrea ahead of the thanksgiving holiday where another commune is reeling after a deadly mass shooting. chesapeake, virginia,

authorities say six people were killed. police are processing the scene and contacting the gunman's next of kin to learn more about his background and a possible motive. cal perry is in southeast virginia outside of the walmart. what other details did you hear from police about this shooting? >> reporter: we don't know who the gunman is. we know police have identified him. they are not publically identifying him. we know that s.w.a.t. teams went through a residence in the area, the residence of the gunman. we are waiting for details on that. it happened 10:15 last night. they were on the scene and entered the walmart behind me in less than four minutes. it seems like things at that point were just about over. police saying that they believe this gunman took his own life. we do know he was a man and he used a handgun. at least six others killed.

this was a disgruntled employee. add to that, you have at least four people in nearby hospitals. they will be key when it comes to the officials and their investigation. you can see behind me, the parking lot has been completely cordoned off. we have seen members of what we believe are the fbi and atf going through various vehicles in the parking lot. at some point, they will let people back in to collect their belongings. you can imagine how crowded this walmart must have been, just two days before thanksgiving. >> cal perry, thank you for that. let's turn to another story involving deadly gun violence. in colorado springs, the alleged shooter arrested on five counts of murder and hate-related charges will make a virtual court appearance in the next hour. steve patterson is covering this for us. what should we expect from prosecutors and the suspect today? >> reporter: that 22-year-old suspected shooter finally released from the hospital yesterday afternoon after being badly beaten by patrons inside

the club, including what police call several acts of bravery that helped save lives. the shooter remanded to a county jail, expected to face the initial hearing in a few hours. this is basically an advisory hear on the preliminary charges which are five counts of first degree murder, of bias-motivated crime, which is counts of a hate crime. official charges not expected until next week when we have an arraignment. the shooter still something of an enigma. low social provide. a name change shortly before 2016, which makes things very difficult for investigators. on top of this, the defense attorney for this hearing listed the client as non-binary, using they, them pronouns, which would make the suspected shooter part of the lgbtq community. you conflate with reporting on the ground here that says the

shooter was hail fulhateful tow community. a lot more investigators need to dig into. no solace to the families of the victims, the community trying to heal right before thanksgiving. >> steve patterson, thank you so much. joining me now is chris brown, president of an organization focused on preventing gun violence and civil rights attorney david henderson. david, let's start with colorado if we can. is today just the start? do you think there could be federal charges in the coming weeks? do you read anything into his lawyers writing in their filing writing the suspect is non-binary, maybe the bullying they say he suffered? >> i think the answer is yes to all. yes, i do think this is just the start. unfortunately, this case extends well beyond colorado. we think about the criminal justice system as being penal that we forget it's meant to heal, to provide people with hope that they can stay safe.

attacks against the lgbtq community for those of us who do civil rights work are rampant. what i expect to see is prosecutors come out and make a strong statement that people were targeted because they are members of a particular community and someone will be made to answer for that. i know they want to be reluctant to see what evidence they have to support the assertions. it's important to get out of in front of it the same way that the defendant's lawyer basically is. the reason they are pointing out their orientation is because they want to offset this being characterized as a hate crime. on the one hand, the murder charge is the higher level charge. at the same time, a big part of what juries do is respond to the totality of the circumstances. this being a hate crime is a huge motivating factor. >> chris, in both colorado springs and chesapeake, virginia, families are facing the first of endless holidays without the people they love.

you pointed out things like this happen and the word tragically starts trending again. is it safe to say with this, the 606th mass shooting this year, you are long over thoughts and prayers? >> i think as a nation, we are long over thoughts and prayers. it feels dizzying, horrific, nauseating to again and again and again wake up to reports of mass shootings in this country. it's appalling to think that we are over 600. of course, that statistic comes from the gun violence archive, which means more than four people shot in a particular shooting incident. think about that. more than 600. we were just reeling after the shooting at the university of virginia where individuals lost their lives on a school trip. obviously, we are thinking about all of the families and loved ones who lost individuals of the

lgbtq+ community in colorado springs. and now this shooting at walmart, on the eve of thanksgiving, having lived in smaller towns in my life, walmart and what it represents is really in essence the town square. we have to be asking ourselves not the particulars of any of these things, because not all of them have commonalities of the 600. what we have to ask ourselves is, what more can we do to stop the next shooting? and it's a lot. we need a better federal standard around background checks. we need to reinstate an assault weapons ban. that's just a start. >> to that point, this year congress did take what they say are big legislative steps. first ones to combat gun violence in decades. but they acknowledge that there

is more that needs to be done. when you look at the realistic list, and understand the new congress that's coming in, what would you prioritize, what do you think realistically where can the fight go? >> well, what i would realistically prioritize is that we have a lame duck session and that this existing congress has a huge and potentially generational opportunity and the vast majority of americans support that. 94% the last i checked. the house of representatives passed two really important bills. to expand brady background checks and an assault weapons ban. the senate needs to take them up. we know from president joe biden one of the greatest leaders on this issue ever to be in the presidency, he will sign both of those bills. why is that important? we don't need piecemeal state laws around public safety with

respect to firearms. hate and firearms is toxic and deadly in this country. these two laws at a federal level will ensure we have a uniform approach across the states. i want to see that happen in this lame duck. >> thank you both so much. we appreciate you taking the time today. taxing effort. after a years' long fight to keep his tax records private, the supreme court with three trump appointees on it, deals a decisive blow to former president trump. when house democrats could get their hands on those documents. that's next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc menu the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon. but what about the new boss? it looks so good it makes me hangry! settle down there, big guy the new subway series. what's your pick? (woman 1) i just switched to verizon business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america?

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his businesses. the treasury department is now cleared to hand them over. but how soon that will happen or whether the public will get to see any of them remains unclear. joining me now, "washington post" deputy national editor phil rucker, sam stein as well as former federal prosecutor glen kirschner. there have been calls for him to release these tax returns since the 2016 campaign. what are the chances democrats get them before the new congress in january? or the public ever sees them. >> the chances are good that the democrats on the house ways and means committee will get them. trump has exhausted his legal options here. there are six weeks remaining until congress shifts power, the house shifts power. it's ample time to get the tax returns. the bigger question is the

public. there are restrictions, as i understand, on what the house committee can do with these tax returns, including whether or not they can turn them over and make them public. because, in part, they need and had to have requested it for a legislative purpose. i think this should illuminate some stuff with respect to donald trump, including why he fought so hard to keep them from getting public in the first place. >> speaking of donald trump, he responded on his own social media platform saying -- there was movement on the mar-a-lago case. how is this going over? what are you hearing? >> not well. let's be clear about something. he is saying the supreme court ruled against him. but it's not a ruling based on

whether they support donald trump or not. it's a ruling based on their assessment of the law and whether the treasury department should provide these documents to congress. there was no dissent among the nine justices. that means the three justices nominated by donald trump when he was president all voted in agreement that this was really sound and the way forward based on their review of the law. so it's not a personal judgment about trump. it's just an assessment of the law. clearly, trump is agitated by this. he has fought for years now to keep these tax records from the hands of congressional investigators and from the public view. he lost that battle, as sam was just explaining. so now it's a question of what's actually in the documents and what that really means in the context of him now running to return to the white house as president in 2024. >> glen, from a legal

standpoint, what do you make of this ruling as phil just said the assessment of the law? where does had potential release -- or likely release, we say, fall among trump's mounting legal problems? >> i agree with phil that the supreme court didn't rule against trump. it ruled against a largely frivolous legal position that trump's lawyers took. it seems to make sense on the legal front that when you have a president who is involved potentially in all sorts of financial entanglements with foreign companies, with foreign banks, that congress really should and i think has the responsibility to see whether legislating some sort of reporting transparency by a president who is in donald trump's position is bragging about how he never pays taxes or can really dramatically reduce all of his tax liability and who

forever is saying that he has been under audit for how many years. we don't know if that's true or not. it does feel like this was a necessary step. it took a long time. but now congress will be in a position to begin to assess whether there is some legislation necessary to prevent this situation from recurring. >> sam, speaking of the house, we still don't know who is going to run the republican side. leader kevin mccarthy was back at the border yesterday threatening to impeach the homeland security secretary unless he quits, he said. let's watch. >> his actions have produced the greatest wave of illegal immigration in recorded history. this is why today i am calling on the secretary to resign. he cannot and must not remain in that position. if secretary mayorkas does not

resign, house republicans will investigate every order, every action and every failure will determine whether we can begin impeachment inquiry. >> a white house spokesman called the visit a political stunt without a solution. strategically, does it make sense as he is trying to find enough votes to become speaker? >> yeah, i think you need to consume this through the lens of what he is trying to do to win house republican votes for the speakership. he will probably end up with 222 seats, which is what the democrats have right now, in terms of the majority. very slim. he could lose four votes among republicans and still maintain the speakership under that. what mccarthy is doing is he is trying to signal to those republicans who may be wavering that he is serious about investigations, he is serious about impeachment, all without

admitting to impeachment. he never said i will impeach. he said i will take steps that could result in impeachment. this is performative. which is what he needs to do. he needs to perform right now so he can win votes for the speakership. it's also sort of what we would have expected anyway. house republicans were going to come in and pass a series of bipartisan bills on immigration. they were going to handle it. a lot of this is theater, in my reading of it. >> yeah. even if it's theater, it's theater with high stakes. it's pretty easy to say that getting the speaker's gavel is high stakes. does he have a credible challenger, phil? >> you know, there's no credible challenger that's emerged yet. but that's part of the calculus here. i think mccarthy would be in more trouble if there were sort of an option b for house republicans. a challenger could step forward very quickly and garner some

support. i mean, things happen fast in politics. at the moment, there's month credible challenger. so what mccarthy has to do is assemble the coalition that he needs to win those votes for speaker when there's not a clear alternative. >> phil, sam, glen, happy thanksgiving. thank you so much for being on the program. terror attacks, deadly twin bombings in. >> jim: jerusalem. tensions continue to rise. russia's targeted attacks on ukraine. the latest victim also one of the war's youngest. if you can believe it, a two-day-old baby. live reports from the region next when "andrea mitchell reports" continues only on msnbc. msnbc. ew puppy. thankfully, we also have tide ultra-oxi with odor eliminators. between stains and odors, it can handle double trouble. for the #1 stain fighter and odor remover, it's got to be tide.

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do police have any suspects? >> reporter: no one claimed responsibility for this attack. a massive manhunt is under way in jerusalem and across the west bank right now. police are saying these were sophisticated devices. they were detonated using a cellphone remotely. they were packed with nails and bolts. the first went off at the bus stop at 7:06 a.m., just the start of morning rush hour. that bus stop packed with people going to work and kids going to school. one of the kids was 15-year-old aria shupak. he was killed in this explosion. one of the things that's striking about this part of the world is how quickly the funerals happen. this little boy was killed this morning. his parents laid him to rest this afternoon. his father spoke at that funeral. he apologized to his dead son. he said he wished he made the

most of every moment that they had together. we spoke earlier to a member of the emergency services. he described the scene of absolute carnage when first responders arrived to the bus stop behind me. listen to what he had to say. >> the scene is one of chaos. people screaming. obviously, the explosion had just gone off. people were suffering from injuries of shrapnel. everyone is trying to flee the scene. it's a street -- a very busy street. >> reporter: as you said, this is the first bombing here in jerusalem since 2016. that also targeted public transport, blowing up a bus in the south of jerusalem. tensions extremely high right now. this is coming at a point of quite serious violence between both israelis and palestinians. it's coming as former prime minister benjamin netanyahu prepares to retake power for the third time at the head of a far right government. one of his ministers visited

this bus stop earlier today. he said when this new government is formed, they will take much harsher measures against palestinians who attack israelis. very tense situation. >> horrific re-visiting something israel knows too well. thank you. a newborn baby has become one of the youngest victims of the war in ukraine. killed in a russian missile strike on a maternity ward in ukraine's zaporizhzhia region. the mother and the doctor were rescued. president zelenskyy accused russia of bringing terror and murder to his country. ellison barber is in kharkiv. there's been a barrage of missile strikes all over the kyiv region. it's without power and water. what's the latest? >> reporter: most of the country is without power. ukraine's ministry of energy, they are calling this missile strike a terror attack that targeted critical infrastructure that provides basic things,

electricity and heating, to millions of civilians. they say this attack led to blackouts on thermal energy plants, hydroelectric, all of it in kharkiv, the city is mostly dark. when those air raid sirens went off, they went off across the entire country, forcing people to frantically flee to shelters like the one that we are in right now just to try to get some semblance of safety. right now, president zelenskyy, he says there are many people wounded, some people are dead in kyiv. the mayor says at least three people died because of the missile strikes, among them a 17-year-old, 11 people, this is just in kyiv, were wounded there. ukraine's military is saying that russia fired about 70 missiles in addition to five dive bombing drones this afternoon. they say they intercepted the majority, about 51. not all of them. we see the impact of that in kyiv right now as we are getting these numbers of the dead there

and wounded. this is something that ukrainian officials from president zelenskyy to the ministry of energy, they are saying it shows that russia is in their view a terrorist state, on the heels of the european parliament voting to designate russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, they are all saying here in ukraine today's missile strikes prove that that is exactly what russia is. >> ellison, let me ask you about the zaporizhzhia region where that nuclear plant is located. it has been the focus of repeated russian attacks. what else can you tell us about that area and specifically the attack on that hospital? >> reporter: the area itself is ukrainian controlled territory by and large. it's also an area, zaporizhzhia region, where russia held this referendum. they claim it as well. our understanding in terms of the specific attack on the maternity ward is it took place near the front lines in this

area. the woman -- the mother of this child was the only patient in the maternity ward at the time. her doctor as well as her, they were pulled from the rubble by rescuers. her newborn baby did not survive. yet another instance. all the officials are saying there's no question in their mind that russia is a terrorist state and that more countries, more nations need to recognize them as such. >> ellison barber, stay safe. thank you for your reporting. we appreciate it. joining me now, rick stengle and omna nuaz. rick -- well, both of you, the death of a two-day-old baby,

there are no words. after it happened, president zelenskyy a short time ago tweeted this. i have instructed our ambassador to request a meeting of the u.n. security council following today's strikes. murder of civilians, ruining of infrastructure are acts of terror. what can be done? >> it's heartbreaking and there's no excuse for it. the idea of russian precision missiles is an oxymoron. i think he is right about russia being a state sponsor of terrorism. the european parliament called it a state sponsor of terrorism. if you attack civilian infrastructure that has no military use like an orphanage, a hospital, then that is a clear violation of the rules of law -- the rules of war. you can attack infrastructure if it has a military benefit. this clearly does not. it seems obvious that russia has

been a state sponsor of terrorism for a while. the other good news -- there's no real good news here at all -- is that russia is running out of these missiles. all military experts think russia has used up more than half of their missiles. the good news for ukraine is that they can wait it out during the long, hard winter, like russia in against the nazis in world war ii. >> of course, the problem becomes how many people and how many babies might die between now and then. you hear about the power outages, no heat, no water. the world health organization warns millions of lives are threatened when you add in the coming winter, subzero temperatures. there's the military aspect. but the humanitarian aspect, what more can be done? >> i think it's important to point out the two are very closely linked. the reason russia has leaned more heavily into this uptick in aerial strikes is because the ground force game has been

stalled. they have suffered humiliating defeats to ukrainian forces who reclaimed territory in the south and east. there's an act of desperation that do end up targeting civilian infrastructure and critical infrastructure. power supplies, water supplies, people in cities left without heat. as you say, winter is coming. we know president zelenskyy has announced he is trying to set up points of invincibility, areas that are secure and open 24/7 to allow people to have access to heat and to power supplies and to water supplies. that will not nearly meet the need on the ground. i have been taxing with sources in kyiv who have remained there from the beginning of the war, managed to stay and decided to stay for a number of reasons. they tell me -- i'm sharing with their permission -- that people are doing whatever they can. there are parts of the city that go without water, without heat. they are trying to help each other, get generators and firewood. this one source says, i think we

could see another wave of refugees leaving and heading to europe if these strikes continue and if situations become, as she describes them, unlivable there. she says, we knew and we all understand russia is not stopping. we need to be prepared for a total blackout. there's a very disturbing and i think potentially devastating winter ahead for millions of ukrainians. >> help us to understand the mindset. we have all admired the resolve of the ukrainian people. having said that, when you are in the situation they are in, no power, no heat, food scarce, no water, i mean, you do wonder about decisions that are being made and how they have the wherewithal and what is going to happen now? is there a place for them to go? is there something set up for what could be a wave of refugees when you realize your kid could freeze to death? >> i think the number of people i talked to --

>> i'm sorry. >> go ahead. >> i just wanted to share the number of people i have been speaking with over the last nine months -- we cannot underscore the fact this has been going on for nine months, a war many people thought would not last a matter of days. everyone has their own circumstances and sets of decisions to make. i spoke with several people who made their way to lviv. many others decided to stay where they are. we have seen a number of european nations step up and receive a number of these arriving ukrainian refugees. the united states as well has stepped up and said if people can sponsor you and you are able to make your way here, you have safe haven here. the point i hear from ukrainian citizens again and again is this. their morale has not buckled. they stand behind their president in this fight. they say, what we need now from the world is unresolved support. we need to know that you are going to stand by us, give us the military support we need to beat russia. that's the only way this ends.

>> is there concern about support russia might get? there are reports russia is helping -- i'm sorry, iran is helping russia, for example, build drones. >> yes. the russians are now availing themselves of weaponry from iran, from north korea. neither of which is known as a particularly good military state. it's just a sign that the corruption, the problems in the russian military -- the thing i was going to say before is that there's probably no country in the world that has suffered more at the hands of violence and authoritarian violence than ukraine. ukraine lost more people per square inch during the 20th century than any other nation. they can endure. in fact, the last thing i would say is, tomorrow is thanksgiving. one of the things i will be thankful for is the incredible bravery, resilience and courage of the ukrainians who are

fighting for democracy for the whole world against this authoritarian power. president biden said we are at these crossroads. the ukrainians at great risk, at great damage, at great harm to them, are fighting for democracy for all of us. i, for one, will say thanks to them tomorrow. >> yeah. we often talk about if people want to support democracy in the united states, they should vote. huge numbers of people did, particularly in battleground states. when you look at what the ukrainians have done, it is really extraordinary. happy thanksgiving to you both. hospitals overwhelmed and key medicine in short supply. how to keep your family healthy this holiday season next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a mitchell reports" only on msnbc. . and since anyone can create a free plan at fidelity, nina has a plan based on what matters most to her.

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virginia. new details from chesapeake police on what they found when they initially entered the crime scene inside that local walmart. cal perry joins me now. what more do we know? it seems like from what i have seen on their twitter feed, we are at least getting a little sense of the shooter's movement inside that store behind you. >> reporter: exactly right. we are hoping that this will lead to motive. these are grizzly details. the city finds it important to update so we find it important to update. at least three of the victims were found dead in a break room inside the walmart. that includes the shooter. there was initial reporting that the violence was contained to the break room. it no longer seems like that was the case. there was a fourth victim near the entrance of the walmart. three people made it out of the walmart alive and died in nearby hospitals. they were inside the walmart within four minutes of receiving the call. it's surprising and it's an

awful thing to report that three people made it out alive and died in hospital. the last thing is that police are opening the possibility that there are more wounded people in nearby hospital who self reported, people who left and were wounded and took themselves to hospital. >> cal perry, thank you for that. i know you will let us know when you get anything else that might be new. thank you. with millions of americans traveling and gathering for the holiday, there's growing worry about a tripledemic. how can you and your family stay safe? joining me now, nbc's senior medical correspondent dr. john torres. the cdc just released its latest flu numbers. more than half of all states have high or very high levels of flu. is this an indicator of the tripledemic? >> i think it's an indicator that we are starting to get into that. we don't know when it's going to end. the numbers i can give you are what the cdc released.

it's a positivity rate for flu, 14.7%. that's higher than this time last year. we know flu is getting here earlier than it usually does and harder than it usually does. rsv, the other one we concern ourselves with, 75% of pediatric rooms are occupied right now, pediatric beds. it's other viruses. these viruses tend to affect kids. when you look at covid, 40,000 cases a day. we still have that number. the deaths are around 300 deaths a day. those haven't gone anywhere. we are seeing indications that those are rising. i think we are in a tridemic. we don't know what will happen once we get through the holidays. some of those might go up as well. >> i was coughing. immediately, when you do that, you are like, wow. what kinds of symptoms should people be concerned about? i'm fine, by the way. >> for the most part -- good. for the most part, when it's

mild symptoms and you are early stages, they look alike. that's why we have testing to tell the difference as doctors. sometimes we can't tell. if you look at the different things, flu, for example, you will start getting it very heavy early on. it's a quick onset. with covid, you start to get the no smell or taste. that isn't as much right now as it was early in the pandemic. people now are talking about sore throats and more respiratory issues, coughing, runny nose, congestion. rsv, it's a respiratory virus that goes into the lungs. that's rapid breathing and wheezing. the other thing, if you are going to test, don't forget the tests we have, if you have old ones, they might not be expired. go to the cdc website and see. this was supposed to expire in june. it doesn't expire until december. i can use it. >> i think i threw one away because i saw the date. that's very good. dr. john torres, thank you. up next, sweet as pie.

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the big getaway is under way for thanksgiving. nearly 44 million americans hitting the roads to spend time with loved ones. more than 2 million flying every day this week. nbc correspondent marissa power joins us from maryland. bill karins has the latest weather. marissa, i see -- hello, marissa? we have a little problem with her. bill, let's go to you. how is the weather looking, especially for the big parade tomorrow? >> i can tell you, it was sunny where marissa was. for her travel report. yeah. that's the case today. we've had a really lucky week. you know, starting earlier in the week through today, we haven't had a really nasty weather ever since that epic snowstorm around buffalo. a lot of people would get to their destinations.

i checked the airports and there's no significant delays anywhere, so that's great. we're seeing volume delays no weather-related delays at all. the map behind me, little bit of rain starting to break out in areas of arkansas and east texas, a theme throughout the next couple days. we'll be talking about a thanksgiving soaker sliding into areas of louisiana. if you have any plans for driving, interstate 30 from little rock back southwards towards shreveport that's the possibility of heavy rain and snow should be developing late on thanksgiving and then look out friday, of all places, west texas and north texas talking from amarillo to lubbock, could be getting heavier snow. on saturday we have a mess throughout the south and then all of that nasty weather heads into the northeast on sunday. let's break down the timing of this. so many people traveling and heading into different areas they're not typically accustomeded to. as we look towards the storms in areas of north texas, notice there's not a lot of green on

the map. overnight it really breaks out. as we go throughout your thursday not a good day to play games or football with your family, shreveport, alexandria to jackson and eventually this mess will slide through the southeast too and then another storm behind that will bring snow on friday. as far as total rainfall this is going to be a soaker. 1 to 3 inches, maybe isolated from the poblts of localized flooding louisiana to mississippi. we are wondering is any of this bad weather going to affect the parade in new york and the macy's parade looks fantastic on nbc. this should be one of the best forecasts we've had in years. temperatures in the mid-40s. the winds look light. all the big balloons should be flying high in the sky. ideal weather. as we lead towards thanksgiving day, especially on the east coast. >> and baby yoda coming at me right now. >> see, we had -- i had to pause long enough to get that in there. >> thank you for that, bill. we do have marissa back.

you are at a maryland travel plaza, rest stop along i-95. how are things going there? >> honestly, they're going really smoothly and that's been the theme of the morning. every single person we've spoken to, which is a number of them, we've spoken to people as they were filling up on gas behind me, people inside of this rest stop here and all of them were just as shocked as we are that the roads are looking as good as they are. i mean, when we talk about the number of travelers, right, 55 million across the planes, trains, automobiles across the thanksgiving week, thanksgiving holiday, 49 million by car, this really is the preferred method of travel here. of course, we talk about the busiest times and that's supposed to be today, until 8:00 p.m. and friday 8:00 to 11:00 a.m. there's a number of people we've spoken to that have done this drive before one of them we spoke as he was filling up on

gas expressed pleasant surprises as well as sharing some tips. >> years ago i left late one time, and it took me 13, 14 hours to get down there. normal i can make it within 4 1/2, 5 hours no problem. i've learned to leave early. >> any tips you have for drivers, people heading out for thanksgiving? >> just -- >> you're an expert? >> be careful. a lot of nuts on the roads. >> to be careful a lot of nuts on the road. >> they don't want to he slow down. >> so he says he's been doing this same drive for years and this is the best he's ever seen it. however, as you heard him say, his number one tip is to leave a lot of time, leave early, which is what he did. there's still time for the roads to get bad. one other tip to leave you with here, when it comes to saving money on gas because we know how more expensive it is this year compared to the same time last year, there are apps, gas buddy one of them, to get the most bang for your buck. back to you. >> thank you for that. bill karins, thanks to you as

well. bill was talking about it being a perfect day for the parade tomorrow and the macy's parade balloons are being filled right now for the big event. kristen dahlgren has her spot staked out at the start of the parade room route. who is that i see behind you? >> this is a new friend this year. we have a new diary of a wimpy kid balloon, up with of four new giant balloons that will be joint the parade this year. we have bluey, 52 foot tall and baby dino and stuart the mignon is an animatronic balloon, this year, that's something new and special. this is where they're filling them. they have the nets that holds the giant balloons from floating away. the handles down there are what the handlers will be using tomorrow. some of the bigger balloons have 50 handlers. we're not worried about the weather or wind this year. take a look down the road here

and we can see this is actually the pillsbury dough boy coming together getting air in it and acorns and pumpkins behind there. 40 novelty heritage inflatables going to be along the parade and 28 floats, chris, including baby shark. if you need an ear worm tomorrow, i think most of america will have baby shark stuck in their heads for thanksgiving. it is really just such an exciting time. take a look over this way. we can show you all of the people here. hey, guys, who is, cited for the parade? it's become we're filling up the balloons is almost as exciting as the parade itself. so a lot of people out here today checking things out and exciting 24 hours ahead, chris. back to you. >> about 90 minutes to fill up one of those balloons and yet i did go one year because it is cool to watch it happen.

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