tv Alex Wagner Tonight MSNBC November 24, 2022 1:00am-2:00am PST
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and another black person who was an absentee father who was advocating for abortions for the people who he impregnated would be lambasted by these people. but because he is saying they want to -- they excuse it. he is any other black person hers happened to be liberal and ma seconds to conside nominee obviously it is not gonna happen. he is relatively popular. i wonder if you thin much that ma to stay in t the republican 's. races. ke herschel walker, but they have to stay in the good graces the republican party. so they do their due diligence. they do what the party is asking them to do. >> yeah, it has been quite effective this entire race. charles globe, great pleasure to have you on. have a good holiday, thank you. >> the two, thank you. >> that is all in on this thanksgiving eve. you know, i realize today that this is the tenth one of these where we have done. for those who have been thank you at home for joining us
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this hour, alex is of course off tonight. we have a lot to get to on this thanksgiving eve. details about the latest mass shooting in america. shootings plural. the suspect accused of killing five people in an lbgtq club in colorado springs this weekend faces a judge for the first time, even as thousands of miles away more were killed in a walmart in virginia. ahead. and we will talk to the democratic winner mary peltola in alaska, and we will get her reaction to victory in a few minutes. multiple conversations about accountability, legislative accountability, electoral accountable and we will start with legal accountability that may be coming to former
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president trump. and tomorrow, a law passed earlier this year in the state of new york goes into effect, the adult survivors act, the first in the nation law creates what is known as a look backward, essentially a one year period for adult survivors of sexual abuse who missed the original statute of limitations to bring civil lawsuits against their alleged abusers. that means for former president trump, that the writer who has publicly accused trump of raping her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s is going to file a lawsuit against trump on that claim tomorrow. that matter will finally actually get, it may get litigated. you might remember, that because ms. carroll had been previously barred by the statute of limitations for charging trump with the rape allegation himself. a legal fight with the former president had centered around defamation. carroll accused the president and called her a liar.
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carroll sued her for defamation. the crux of trump's legal defense was simple. the statements carroll was suing over were made while he was president and as president, he can say whatever he wants. no accountability. now as wild as that sounds that was a legally viable argument. last month, he called carroll again, and in the middle of statement, there is this. quote, e. jean carroll is not telling the truth. on wednesday carroll is expected to file a second defamation lawsuit against the former president for those statements tomorrow. and trump no longer the president which means that either he has to prove that e. jean carroll is lying or he could actually be held accountable for defamation. so that is on the schedule for tomorrow. but even before that, this week
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has already been a terrible week for the former president legally. on monday, we got the news that the manhattan district attorney's office is looking to potentially re-start its criminal investigation into the 130,000 dollars hush money payment former president trump allegedly paid to adult film store stormy daniels on the eve of the 2016 presidential election. that one also a little funny, because if trump had remained a new york resident for the past few years the statute of limitations on that case would also have passed, but in part to get away from his legal woes in new york, the former president legally changed his state of residence to, yup, florida. shortly after leaving office. that froze the statute of limitations for that case. so a bit of an own goal on trump's part there. yesterday we got the news that the supreme court ruled against trump and his case against the house ways and means committee,
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which means that finally, after all these years, the treasury department is going to sends them trump's tax returns. now, that came on top of the news yesterday, south carolina senator lindsey graham, testified for more than two hours to a grand jury in fulton county, georgia. he testified for their investigation into trump's attempt to overthrow the 2020 election. and then, on top of all that, in the past 24 hours, we have gotten two big pieces of news in the two cases against president trump at the department of justice, just handed over to newly appointed special counsel jack smith. first, the federal appeals court signaled yesterday they are likely to end former president trump's lengthy special master review in the mar-a-lago documents case. the federal judge in florida had ordered that the special master should decide what documents the justice department can get access to, effectively slowing
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the whole investigation down for months. and now, it appears the whole process is likely to go away. special counsel jack smith is likely to get access to all of those documents, sooner rather than later. and the second case, special counsel smith just inherited. the justice department investigation into january 6th and trump's attempt to overturn the election. "the new york times" is out with bombshell new reporting about that investigation tonight. the headline reads "justice department seeking to question pence in january 6th investigation." according to people familiar with former vice president mike pence's thinking, he is, quote, open to considering the request. pence was a central figure in president trump's effort to overturn the election and it would be, and would be an invaluable witness but when it comes to the house investigation matter, pence had staunchly refused to testify, so his cooperating with special counsel, that would be a huge
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leap forward. joining us now, michael schmidt washington correspondent from "the new york times" and one of the reporters who broke the story. michael, thank you very much for being with us tonight. talk me through the time line here. what is it looking like? >> so we know that in recent weeks, before the appointment of the special counsel, thomas wyndham, the lead investigators on the january 6th inquiry, the one looking at whether trump broke the law when he, and his allies, turned, overturned the election, reached out to pence's said, to say that they wanted to talk to him. now, it will be many weeks, if not months, before the government hears from pence, because pence will have to be subpoenaed and trump will try and stop this. trump will try to assert executive privilege. this is a play that he has run before, where he has tried to use these claims to stop former
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top white house aides from speaking with investigators. so far, for trump, this has not worked. but it has slowed the process. and when you have someone like a vice president and you have questions of privilege, that a former president is trying to assert, it becomes a very formalized process, this is not something where investigators or fbi agents could sit down with pence and do a quick interview. this will be something that there is a lot of back and forth in, i guess a judge will have to get involved at some point, and eventually, if the government really wants to hear from pence, they probably will. >> right, to your point, this is a play that we have seen before, and most of the time when it succeeds, what it succeeds in doing is slowing things down. part of your reporting tonight is that this request came before attorney general garland appointed jack smith as the special counsel in this case. do you have any sense if that has slowed this down at all?
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>> no, there's no indication that it has. and look, these investigations that special counsel has inherited are two fully formed investigations. the government has been looking for many months at the january 6th allegations that trump broke the law, when he and his different associates were trying to come up with schemes to essentially try and get the vice president to pick who won the election, despite what the actual results were. the other investigation, the mar-a-lago one, is well along. there has been a search warrant that was executed at trump's home in florida. the government has interviewed many different witnesses. those investigations have been done by these prosecutors absorbed bit special counsel's office. the special counsel himself, mr. smith, coming back from being in
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the hague where he is trying these war, he is a war crimes prosecutor, he will have to get up to speed, and he will be the one who has to make major decisions about whether to grant immunity or whether to execute search warrants, or whether to offer plea deals, major investigative decisions like that. but the work of these investigators will continue and can continue while he is getting up to speed. will it slow it down? my guess is not in a noticeable way that us standing on the outside looking in will be able to tell. the attorney general went to great lengths last week, when he announced the appointment of the special counsel, that this would not slow the inquiry. so that's sort of where it stands. >> mike, it strikes me, i'm sure it strikes you, that so much of what pence experienced has already been made public from his january 4th oval office meeting with trump lawyer john eastman, to the conversation between pence's chief of staff
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and lead secret service agent on january 5th warning that the president could turn on pence himself. your sense of what the justice department is most interested in hearing directly from pence himself. >> well, my guess is they want to know what trump's efforts were to pressure him, how under pressure did he feel from the president? did he feel like the president was trying to rope him into a criminal conspiracy? did they think that pence thought that what trump was doing was untoward? just hearing the account of the vice president, you have to remember, pence was the center of trump's efforts on january 6th. the people who stormed the capitol said hang mike pence. the president wanted pence to throw out the electors that were there for biden and pick his electors to allow him to stay in office. it all came down to pence. he was the central fulcrum of
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what trump, what trump wanted, what trump wanted this entire thing to pivot on. you would want to hear from him, you would want to know what his accounts were of his meetings with trump. we know that at times trump had aides in the room. >> were there other interactions that trump had with pence in which there were other discussions about this? how does pence's accounts of these meetings hold up with other individuals that were around the white house at the time? are there differences between the two? what kind of witness would pence make? how cooperative will he be? these are all things that if you're an investigator and you're trying to look at everything that went on around january 6th, this is one of the most important people you would want to talk to. >> mike, talk us through how pence sees this request from the d.o.j. as legitimate, while not seeing the request from the 1/6 committee, how does it square up? >> well, i think that there are
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two things. the congressional committee never subpoenaed pence. so there has never been a formal request for his testimony. he said while he was on book tour last week that congress was not entitled to his testimony. i think there's some argument out there that the vice president doing this would set a bad precedent of sorts, of some, you know, sometimes arguments of precedent are made when people don't really want to cooperate. he has criticized the committee, saying that it was partisan or whatever. at the end of the day, if the justice department subpoenas him, there isn't really much that he can do. if trump is not able to assert privilege, pence will have to cooperate. and it will be difficult for there to be a privilege claim for a range of reasons, one of them is that trump doesn't control it anymore, the current president does, and i don't think biden is going to allow trump to assert privilege to
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stop this. and pence has written about some of this, in his book. so if he was able to put it in a book, the government will make the argument, if you can put it in a book, why can't you talk to the grand jury about it? so he will be sort of legally compelled ultimately to answer these questions. and i think that he sees the criminal investigation from the department as something that is more significant than the january 6th investigation. >> we have about a minute left, but you point this out in the article, which is it's unprecedented for many reasons, but in part because three of the people involved, pence, trump, president biden, all considered or committed to presidential bids for 2024, how does that then factor in here? >> well, it certainly provides an incredible backdrop, because here you have a central witness who will also be a potential opponent in a republican primary
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of trump. he could do an enormous amount of damage to trump as a witness. his account could really help prosecutors. and this is way down the road, but certainly calling a vice president to testify against a president, while that's something that sounds like it is out of a novel or a thriller, would be pretty compelling, and it would be something that probably the government would want to use, especially if pence turns out to be someone who has a clear recollection of what went on, and a clear ability to recite what he knows and what he experienced. so in that sense, he could really damage trump. he could damage trump if he testified probably in front of the january 6th committee. apparently, he doesn't want to do that. often the justice department side, i think he will have far less of a choice.
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>> michael schmidt, washington correspondent for "the new york times." and coming up, the final balance of power for the house for the next congress, we will have democratic congressman mary peltola will join us after being re-elected against sarah palin again. and the string of shootings this week is bringing into focus the american gun problem. the executive director of guns down america joins me next to discuss the path forward to preventing gun violence. next. ward to preventing gun violence. next
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only five weeks left on the calendar, 2022 already on track to become the second highest year for mass shootings in america. more than 600 incidents reported, according to the gun violence archive, the nonprofit group that tracks gun violence in this country. the shooting broke the 600 market in colorado springs. five people died saturday in a shooting at club q, an lbgtq gathering place, making it the 601st mass shooting incident this year. the suspect in that attack made the first court appearance in court today via video and ordered to be held without bond. defense attorneys for the
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suspect said in court papers filed last night that the shooter identified as nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns and five murder counts and height crime charges, but the motive behind the attack remains unclear. the deadly shooting at a walmart in chesapeake, virginia, overnight, a mass shooting number 607 this year. the man armed with a handgun and multiple magazines opened fire inside the store. killing six people before killing himself. the suspect has been identified as a long-time walmart manager. and the motive at this point also remains unclear. as police release the names of most of the victims tonight, 38-year-old brian pendleton, 52-year-old kellie pooil. 43-year-old lorenz yose gamble. randy blevins. all from chesapeake. and 22-year-old tyneka johnson from portsmouth, virginia.
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police did not identify or release the picture of a sixth victim, a 6-year-old boy from chesapeake. the mass shooting 601 on saturday and 607 on tuesday, and in between those three days there were another five mass shootings in this country, more than one mass shooting per day. number 602 happened on saturday in washington park illinois, one person was killed, three injured. number 603 also saturday in philadelphia, mississippi, one killed, six injured. number 604, on sunday in tennessee, oklahoma, four killed, one injured. number 605, on sunday, in dallas, texas, four people were injured, number 606, happened yesterday in west palm beach, florida, two were killed, two injured. and today, an incident in philadelphia left four teenagers
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injured for mass shooting 608. the number 608 just refers to mass shootings. defined by gun violence archived as incidents where four people or more shot or killed. not including the shooter. but if you take into account the total number of deaths from gun violence in this country, all causes, that number exceeds 39,000. just in 2022. again, we still have five weeks to go. in virginia alone, there have been three mass shooting incidents in the last ten days. six people killed at the walmart store last night, three students killed at the university of virginia on november 13th and another incident in chesterfield county last friday, a mother and three children were killed in a quadruple homicide. gun reform advocates point out that virginia's republican governor, glen youngkin, managed to tweet about the latest mass shooting in his state without
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using the word gun, gunman, or shooting. governor youngkin was asked today about the gun violence in virginia and he said, quote, we'll talk about it, we'll talk about this. today is not the day. it's not the day. but it will be. and we will talk about it. well, if today is not the day to talk about it, when is the day? there's a shooting. every day. and the clock is constantly resetting. won't it always be too soon? joining us now, is the executive director of guns and america and guns down, how to defeat the nra and have a safer future with fewer guns. igor, thanks for joining us. we have more than 600 mass shootings so far this year, more than 39,000 victims of gun violence, three mass shooting incidents alone in virginia in the past ten days, it seems like it's not too soon to be having
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this conversation. >> no, we should be talking about this every single day, because we know that the families of the names you just read out are going to have that empty chair at the thanksgiving table. they're going to be talking about it, and frankly, our leaders need to be talking about it as well. and that extends beyond the virginia governor by the way, i think. it extends to virginia senators, tim kean and mark warner, when i think when they come back from the thanksgiving break, have a real responsibility to urge senate majority leader chuck schumer to bring to the senate floor and actually vote on bipartisan house-passed legislation, to ban assault weapons, to extend background checks, and we all have to talk about it, but most importantly, those elected officials who have the power to do something, they need to act. >> you think that can legitimately get done during
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that session? >> i think we should try. if we're not going to try to get it to the president's desk, like he called for, it will certainly fail, but i was surprised as the viewers when we got bills across the finish line as well. this is the thing. there is really not a lot of muscle memory for politicians even champions on this issue to actually fight, and as i look back, at the election we just had, when voters returned the gun violence prevention majority in the senate and voters in key states like wisconsin, colorado, and pennsylvania, said that they would prefer candidates who support gun violence prevention, when you saw that great poll out just a couple of days ago, young latinos say that gun violence prevention is an absolute priority for them. there isn't any reason that our elected officials, when they make us promises to fight for this issue in their campaign,
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that they shouldn't, in this lame duck session, before republicans take control of the house, that they not use every opportunity. i know the survivors i talk to and work with every single day are demanding and a lot of their viewers are demanding it, get caught fighting and get caught trying to resolve this problem. >> you can't talk about safety, can't talk about crime, without talking about gun safety, and it strikes me, one typical republican talking point is that america is experiencing a mental health crisis, not a gun problem, as though they're mutually exclusive. but back in september, had 205 republicans voting against increasing mental health access in schools, so which one is it? >> exactly, and of course, people with mental health conditions are much more likely to be victims of gun violence than perpetrating it. as those same folks who you point to as voting against meanting health funding, i
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remember for years trying to repeal the affordable care act, so there are certainly members of congress who don't want to solve this crisis, who want to use it as an opportunity to help the gun industry sell more guns and i'm convinced that the overwhelming majority of americans reject that kind of approach and support us doing what we know works. tightening our gun laws. investing in our communities. making sure we actually regulate the gun industry. and we just need our champions, our legislative champions, to build the success that we saw just this year and continue to fight. and frankly, again, the virginia senators and the colorado senators, whose states were rocked by the latest tragedies, it is their responsibility to privately with chuck schumer and publicly call for a vote, because we can't wait for two more years while the house is in republican hands until we actually try to get some of
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these bills on to the president's desk. >> executive director of guns down america, igorvolsky, thank you for being with us. the second time in less than three months, a democratic in alaska has beaten sarah palin to be elected to the house. we will talk to congressman nary peltola and elon musk may think he is strolling but in reality he is doing something much more dangerous ahead. thing much more dangerous ahead. on a ful arge. and a starting price around $30,000. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet.
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more than two weeks from election day, we can now say that incumbent republican senator lisa murkowski has survived a challenge from trump-backed candidate kelly tshibaka and democrat mary peltola has beaten sarah palin. held on to the state's sole house seat. if you are wondering why we are just getting those results, well, it's a little complicated. alaska is a huge sate, with some polling places in areas with no road access, so it takes time to get those ballots in. and the necessary checks of absentee ballots against voter rolls also takes time. and that is before you get to the tabulation of the new vote count that happened just a short
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time ago. alaska uses ranked choice voting in which voters rank their preferred candidates in order. since no candidate got more than 50% of the vote in these races, it went to an instant runoff, where the candidates with the fewest votes were eliminated. and their votes went to the next candidate choice, until a winner was announced. and in the case of alaska's single house seat, brought an end to the race that is the former governor of the state, and the republican whose grandfather once held. and the democrat mary peltola who first one the house seat in an august special election to serve out the remaining term of congressman don young who died while in office. joining us now, democratic congressman elect mary peltola of alaska and thank you for taking the time to be with us and first, your reaction to your win tonight? >> hi, it feels so good that it is over, and it is over seven
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months of this campaign, and two campaigns, the special and then the regular election, so it just feels very good to have it wrapped up now. >> good that it's over is a very honest feeling that i think a lot of us can relate to. across the country, we're seeing republicans question fair and free elections, attack the elections process, we see it even in this race, with one of your opponents calling out for a repeal of ranked choice voting, wanting to get to quote, fair, free, transparent clear elections. i wonder how concerned you are about this sort of movement gaining traction in a place like your state. >> well, i'm not sure how much traction there is to eliminate ranked choice voting at this point. clearly there were the detractors. it really takes power away from both of the parties, and i think we saw from both party establishments that they were not in favor of the system but
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clearly alaska has spoken and people have participated. it hasn't been nearly as confusing as others may lead you to believe. but i am very much a fan of ranked choice voting at this time. >> indeed. alaska voters are sending you back to washington with a mandate to get things done. your sense of what that can look like in this congress. >> well, it's very challenging. i served in the legislature for ten years, but that was 14 years ago, and i started 24 years ago, and things weren't nearly as partisan either in washington, d.c. or within state legislatures, or even at the municipal level now. we have really seen partisanship really take hold. and i think that is one of the good things about ranked choice voting is that it attracting more middle of the road candidates, it precludes party systems from creating a system where people are trying to out-democrat each other or out-republican each other and
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you get more mainstream folks messaging to the mainstream of voters. >> there is the process itself, and then i think there is the way that you have positioned yourself in this race. you have run what you call a pro-fish, pro-choice, pro-worker campaign, it is not often that you see all of those words side by side. and not only flipped a republican seat but then held on to it. i wonder what message you think that sends about what is possible for democrats to achieve in red states. >> well, i think as long as we're not using cliche type of language, i think most americans are very tired, certainly alaskas are tired of it, and alaskans, i can speak from personal experience, and my own experience, we like plain spoken language, we are talking about real issues, and that affect real people every day, things like inflation, things like
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access to medical care, things like abundance in our natural resources, and i think those kind of issues really resonated with alaskans. >> nothing cliche about pro-fish, pro-choice, pro-worker, democratic congressman mary peltola of alaska joining us tonight from her victory party. that is the noise you hear in the back ground. thank you so much for being here with us. >> thank you. coming up, hate speech appears to be seeing a hey day on twitter under the home of the world's richest man, elon musk. media matters for america president, angela carsone joins me after the break to discuss how twitter's inability to monitor content on the platform and how it is negatively impacting society at large. stay with us. s negatively impacting society at large stay with us go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette.
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it is a super sad situation, from what i can tell, it's not the majority of the city that feels that way, we don't feel that way, so we thought a big mural like this would show support, and we thought just, you know, club q strong says so much, so the mural needs to be just kind of that focus for everybody coming up and down the avenue, and read it right away and know exactly what it was about and to show support really. >> just a few days after the shooter took the lives of five people at club q in colorado springs, injuring several others, a local artist decided to join his neighbors in grieving the lives lost and
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grappling with the fear and anxiety gripping the community, painting a mural. the artist told local reporters, quote, i know art doesn't really solve any problems, but again, just want to put the message out there that we support the victims. art has a way to process, mourn, provide some support in the wake of an attack on a group of people that is often the target of hate and vitriol. the community that faced a steady increase in hateful rhetoric and violent threats ahead of the mass shooting on saturday. a recent study by the anti-bullying organization found that for the past three and a half years, 15% of the 10 million social media posts they analyzed were trans-phobic. that figure is not counting rhetoric from lawmakers who amplified the anti-lbgtq+ language found online, legislation, like florida governor desantis don't say gay bill and gender identity and
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sexual orientation from some public school classrooms and the proliferation of anti-lbgtq hate groups in the last few years, before the shooting threats against the lbgtq community had intensified across the country so much the fbi issued a nationwide warning to local law enforcement weeks ago. the national president kate ellis said to the colorado sun, quote, you can draw a straight line between false and vial rhetoric about lbgtq people spread by extremists and amplified across social media, to the nearly 300 anti-lbgtq bills introduced this year, to the dozens of attacks on our community like this one. so it raised a lot of eyebrows this weekend, when the new ceo of twitter decided to reinstate accounts that were banned for their anti-transposts. accounts that repeatedly ran afoul of twitter's long-held
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anti-lbgtq harassment policy. but those anti-harassment policies might not be in place for much longer. musk's twitter, the trust and safety team, turned the policy against deadnaming, and it meant the home of a social media company, and overseen a stream of layoffs and resignations and sig-outs that have gutted the company's ability to perform adequate content moderation and overseen the return of accounts such as kanye west whose account was frozen for anti-semitic comments and former president trump, and a russian embassy account for anti-semitic cartoons of ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy, and also since musk's takeover, hate speech, like the "n" word, jumped 500%. now musk seems willing to not only allow accounts on his platform to defy rules against hate speech, but instead, join
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the chorus. last night, he posted this video, making fun of t-shirts he found in the closet at twitter headquarters, having staying woke, written on the front. "the new york times" reported that the t-shirts were from twitter's black employees resource group and meant to support black employees at the company and draw attention to police violence against employees, after michael brown in missouri, and hard to process, to provide support, but musk apparently found them funny. what does it mean to the person running a platform where hate speech is surging decides it is funny when his employees stand against it? what does that portend? joining us now, angela carusone, president of media matters. i don't mean that last question as a rhetorical one. i want to know from you, what
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does it mean about musk's leadership? >> so i think there's three layers of harms here that people should consider. one is that, you know, when you start to invite this, as you point out, when you welcome these accounts back and say it is okay and roll back policies designed to protect these communities, you have direct harm to individuals who receive the harassment. that is number one. then this other layer on top of it which is the actual temperature, and you know, the more of this stuff that is streamed, the more of this hate and vitriol sort of gets injected into twitter, the more the rhetoric and the temperature ramps up, the climate gets worse for everybody and you need to, it just makes, it makes it much more violent, much more likely to lead to violence, and it ratchets it us. so that's the second thing. the third thing is the scale. where it becomes a problem for people that may never have even touched twitter and that is when twitter then, with the leadership, you're just not going to see more tolerance and acceptance of these attacks, you
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will see within the mechanics of twitter's engineering itself, not just changes to policy but shifting or allowing the algorithm to actually amplify and organize around this hate. and that's where these individual harms start to become much more system-tized. and all of these demonstrations demonstrate the trend line that we're moving toward, roll back the policies and enforcement and welcome these types of people back and it is organizing at an algorithm level >> i want to lean into the third point you that made, and there are people who say i'm 'not twitter, i'm not exposed to this. that's not how it works this. all shows up in our day to day life. it shows up in legislation that gets proposed in states we live in. so talk us through the mechanics of how that happened, and how it is more dangerous in a moment like this. >> right, when this kind of content gets left up, i think people say sticks and stones
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will never break my bones, why do we care about harmful content, especially when it is targeted toward marginalized individuals or this type of population. and the more you leave this content up, what twitter knows, what all of these platforms know is how long individuals stay on that content, how long, how much they interact with similar types of cone tent, and it begins to build profiles and look-alikes and what it starts to say is hey, you're somebody who maybe never thought about this issue before, maybe you never expressed any indication of anti-transviolence but perhaps based all of these other factors you may be really interested in this, you're already kind of bigoted, already kind of racist, would you like this, here are some lice an misinformation what they're doing at the local school, and that's the sort of problem with this idea that if you don't use twitter it doesn't affect you, because it does, because twitter then might like other platforms become engines of radicalization and they also
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provide the tools for online to offline harassment. because it is worth keeping in mind that part of what elon musk wants to do is build more capabilities on twitter for closed organizing like we have on telegram and these other platforms, so he wants to make it sort of a one stop shop, for both hate, harassment, abuse, and also offline action. and that's where it starts to affect everybody, even if they don't care about twitter. >> we've got about 30 seconds left, talk us through how this all gets rinsed and repeated by people in positions of power. >> what ends up happening is, if you're in a position of power, especially in the republican party, part of the strategy now is you organize power on what used to be considered the fringes and that's how partly donald trump added numbers to the rolls in 2020, he organized the power in the far right and what that means is you have elected officials that begin to validate and pander to this type of percolating extremism and
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misinformation, which makes it much more legitimate, but it also then starts to enshrine it in policy and every day life beyond just the norms, it starts to put this kind of hate and harassment in laws and it is happening everywhere, and what happened in florida also. >> president and ceo of media matters, thanks for your time tonight. up next, a major ruling from the georgia supreme court, that has democrats cheering ahead of senator raphael warnock's runoff election with herschel walker. coming up. coming up.
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warnock and republican herschel walker. a decision from the georgia supreme court to allow early voting to begin on saturday. and the court's decision blocks an attempt by the state republican party with strict early voting on the only saturday voters will be able to cast earlyballs in the runoff. the secretary of state brad raffensperger argued that georgia law fess spied that early in person voting could not be held on a saturday following a thursday or friday considered a public or legal holiday. of course, tomorrow is thanksgiving. and friday is another holiday in georgia. one that formally honored the confederate general robert e. lee, and fulton county overruled the secretary of state and now the supreme court has looked at the ruling, the georgia supreme court issued another ruling that could boost turnout in the runoff election, the court reinstated the state's ban on abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. while it is widely considered
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extreme, because it bans abortion when most people, before most people realize they're pregnant and the issue of voting rights turned out voters in the midterms for democrat can candidates earlier this week while some citing it a key reason why democrats were able to have a senate majority in the new congress, but it is a notably narrow majority, republican herschel walker wins, and vice president kamala harris will still be needed to break any ties on 50-50 votes. and here's why this race is still important to democrats, while many georgians might be thankful this year the opportunity to vote early in person this saturday. that does it for us tonight. i will see you this weekend on my show "american voices, 6:00 p.m. eastern, saturdays and sundays. now it is sometime for "the last word," hey, jonathan. >> hey, great to see you. have a happy thanksgiving. >> you too,
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