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push for assault weapons ban. with republicans set to take control of the house and promising to investigate the administration is there any chance the president can deliver on that? today millions of americans taking advantage of black friday deals online and in person with concerns about inflation. advice to spot the deals this hour with the u.s. set to play england in the world cup that epic goal from brazil against serbia. wow. still has the world in awe. but we are going to start with the breaking news from virginia where the city of chesapeake identified the 16-year-old victim of the mass shooting as fernando barron. one of six killed there. joining us now from virginia is nbc news correspondent cal perry. the other piece of news is a
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note found on the phone of the alleged shooter. >> reporter: a little bit of an insight they think into why this shooting took place. we won't quote directly from the note. i can tell you that the note was full of concerns that the gunman has about the employees and we have a better understanding of targeting the people. it is a highly conspiratorial feeling. it was this relationship with the people that he worked with. he thought they were talking behind his back and had it out for him. it was this discussion we now know is sort of what led to this. he asks for forgiveness from god in the note. the people of this town continue to come here to the scene to put
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flowers and balloons here to try to federal government your out how it could happen and how to prevent it. added to what the police released about the againman's message he bought the gun legally the morning of the shooting and the ammunition. another indication how easy it is to get a firearm in the state of virginia. >> thank you. the shooting in virginia and in colorado springs have put america's gun epidemic back in the spotlight with 610 mass shootings just this year. president biden railed against assault weapons yesterday calling on congress to reinstate the ban against military-style guns. >> the idea we still allow semiautomatic weapons to be purchased is sick.
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just sick. it has no, no social redeeming value. just profit for the manufacturers. >> can you do anything about the gun laws in the lame duck? >> i will try to get rid of assault weapons. >> joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell with the president in nantucket. charlie sykes at the bull work. donna edwards and harry litman. good to have you here. kelly, the president little vague beyond saying he would try. has the whout been anymore specific? >> reporter: they have not. this is a long standing issue for the president and talking at it it draws out emotion and feeling about it. he believes that he was successful in the past and the law banning assault weapons that had a 10-year sunset provision. we go back to this state of
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affairs of today where the weapons are available. the president walked over to the reporters while visiting with firefighters on thanksgiving and talked about a couple topics and asked for reaction to the shooting and the response that he got and when asked about what to do legislatively especially in the limited period of time when the current congress in the remaining weeks of their term until january 2 what could he do. the president was candid about the fact to like to pass an assault weapons ban but there is not a specific to do that. he doesn't say that that is specifically on the agenda. he said he wants to assess where the votes are on that. the house has greater ability to do that. but in the senate you would need ten republicans. that we know is a much harder thing to try to achieve. the president talks about this
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issue and others that don't have the votes today because he believes that the public weight of bringing the voice of a president and the issues like this that people feel strongly about is an incremental value in talking about them and bringing political pressure to bear and reminding people that when these terrible violent acts occur there's a legislative path forward if people choose to take it so don't expect an immediate action beyond what the president has talked about here but see what's important and right now we know that the political reality in washington does not suggest there's an easy fix to this. >> let's talk about red flag laws because a thing we hear and talking to joyce vance about this in the last hour is that let's just use the laws we have in place but looking at the numbers in places like colorado, the red flag law exists but
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often isn't used. a ton of places where you have prosecutors, political figures saying we are a second amendment area so nothing happens. so what can you do about that? if you're someone whose family member has died, if you are someone who fought to get a red flag law in place and see that it's not being used, what legal resource do you have? >> it's all true. the red flag laws do exist. everything else that biden says it is an outrage. some shootings come out of the blue. others don't. virginia maybe not predicting. colorado we could have. the red flag law means that law enforcement or family members can go to court, get a petition and somebody wouldn't have a gun for a time and this shooter had a terrible incident with his
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mother the year before. these laws do exist. there are certain second amendment hesitation by some law enforcement. that's completely illegitimate. that's a matter of public pressure. enforce the damn law. people don't know how to use them. we need training programs. the attorney general in colorado called for it today. that is a small thing the federal government can do, arrange and fund training so that officers and others who can use the red flag laws know they can go to court and disable individual shooters with a credible threat of doing something crazy. >> whatever happens in georgia, charlie, we are at square one. president biden needs ten republican votes to get anything done. that's significant and there's really no sign as kelly knows
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that republicans are going to budge. having said that, why hasn't there been any change? we hear about how the nra lost the power. not putting enough money in like it used to. they have cut the support by millions of dollars. what is the hold that this has on congress and in this case in the senate in particular? >> chris, a quick correction. i'm not a republican. had not been one for years given what happened to the republican party. the hold on the congress is basically this is become part of the culture war, where you stand and why you have members of congress who fetishize guns and christmas cards showing the families holding basically weapons of mass destruction. unfortunately this is becoming more than simply the second
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amendment. and this is something that has been locked in and unfortunately you have some of the most prominent voices on the right to demagogue this issue. even though this is a lost cause for the biden administration and gun control advocates i think it's worth pursuing because otherwise the world looks at the united states and wonder why are we so indifferent and unable to do the kinds of thing that is virtually every other civilized country on the planet has done. i hope they go ahead with it because i think we need to constantly challenge the conscience of the nation and put people on record. >> can that be something, donna, to change things? newtown and uvalde didn't do it. you see lives' snuffed out. you would think it would move. what does it take to look at the
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polls that show the support for many of the changes and transfer that to members of the senate and congress? >> i think we have to keep in mind that people said that the first gun safety legislation passed in 30 years could ptd happen but the president signed that into law in the spring. so the impossible became possible. i think that this is true on the assault weapons ban. the assault weapons ban sunsetted in 2004. i think the president is right to call for its reinstatement now and the one thing that the president has even if he doesn't have the votes in the house and the senate right now is a bully pulpit and we no there's majority support in the public for an assault weapons ban. it is narrow. the president can move that needle and move public opinion so that it then forces the
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congress to deal with the issue. i think that in some of these moderate districts that there is support among moderate republicans and among independents for an assault weapons ban and the president's job to use the bully pulpit to move that needle so i don't believe that the impossible is not still possible. >> on that positive note, i thank all of you. charlie sykes which is not a republican. kelly o'donnell with not a bad backdrop there. i hope you have a great holiday weekend black friday. as we watch the finances what you need to know if you hit the stores this weekend. new allegations of war crimes against russia. one calls it soccer. the other calls it football. two countries with a long
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it is the biggest shopping event of the year. black friday. americans lined up in the morning to try to score the best deals but even with big price drops will inflation mean sticker shock? joining us from elizabeth, new jersey, correspondent emilie ikeda. what are you seeing? it looks busy as far as i can tell behind you. >> reporter: it is busy and getting busier by the hour. this place is buzzing with excitement with the resurgence of foot traffic. nearly 1 in 3 shoppers plan to do the holiday shopping in
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person. the lines out the front door so there's an increased level of excitement on this black friday and the retailers are paying attention rolling out the red carpet if you will for customers with an emphasis on the in-store experience with customer service and displays to allow them to try if you buy -- before you buy, if you will. we talked to customers what is luring them to stores here evenality an early hour. >> i look to come to the store to touch the clothes. i don't know. i can buy video games online but other stuff i need to see the product because online stuff can be deceiving. >> reporter: while still strong retail sales are expected to grow at a slower pace.
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slowed down by inflation. the importance of stretching the dollar as far as possible. finding the best bargain out there. we could see some hiccups for one of the biggest players on black friday. amazon workers expected to strike around the world including the u.s. we did reach out to amazon and not heard back for comment. while today is the official kickoff, retailers are slashing for weeks. chris? >> okay. thank you. so let's talk travel, brian. if you are a family bigger on experiences than stuff where do you look for deals and how do they compare to pre-covid? >> the mall looks like airports this season. we are seeing robust numbers for
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christmas and new years travel. book as far in advance as possible. procrastination will year will not get you the best deals. i like google flights to let you search for routes and then use data to say a low, medium or high price and you can set alerts for if they drop and today airlines and hotels are running deals. you can get 30 to 40% off hotel bookings. the deals are out there. you got to be proactive. >> look. you provided us info for the december holidays. these are averages for christmas season. domestic $463. so hells $219 a night. cars $53 a day. is it too late now or will it be too late if i wait any lornger
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to get deals? where are people going? >> yeah. international, the best deals are international because the u.s. dollar is at record highs against most global currencies. going to europe right now is a bargain, especially seeing wild hotel rates in miami $900 at certain times. more people are traveling abroad. dublin is hot and do what but domestically there's fare sales. the airlines come out with flash sales on twitter. most airlines let you cancel free of charge within 24 hours. seeing a deal book it. have that 24-hour window to firm up the plans. if you wait you will lose out. >> thank you both so much.
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this week russia missiles struck power plants knocking out electricity. no power. no water. no strike. one strike hit a maternity ward killing a newborn baby. for expectant parents the stakes could not be higher. nbc's molly hunter has their story. >> hello. hi. i'm three days old. >> reporter: you are one of the newest little cute ukrainians. new parents found out they were expecting in the first days of the war. >> we were waiting for this but we were not waiting for the war. i started to cry. i didn't know what to do. and he was, everything is okay. it is very good news. >> reporter: he is so perfect. he is beautiful. congratulations! and good news still comes to
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this maternity hospital in kyiv. down on the third floor at nine months pregnant yulia is attending a prenatal class filled with expecting mothers. nine months into the war and these women have chosen to stay and start their families right here. it was scary. it was joyful, she says. it was the highest and lowest at the same time. did you and your partner think about leaving the country for your safety? yulia says she felt safer staying here with her husband. she wants to give birth in kyiv. what do you hope for your child? and it's certain, she says, our children will not grow up to know this war. some 7 million people have left the country according to the united nations. but the women who have stayed behind this doctor says encourage each other to keep up the fighting spirit. life goes on. children are still born, she
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says, even in the current reality. the reality for tatyana, who is five months pregnant from mariupol, is that the russian military bombed the maternity hospital in her hometown back in march. a close friend was giving birth there. it was very scary, tatyana says, for us to even dare to have a child. so amid all of this horror, you and your husband decided that actually you wanted to have a child right now? the war changed us a lot, she says. the decisions we are making now, we never thought we were capable of. but a child, she says, would bring great joy and keep her company if her husband is drafted into the army. as russian missile strikes continue to knock out power and water across the country we meet yulia again at her apartment. we are in the middle of a rolling blackout. no elevator. and she is on the 20th floor.
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candles are the only light in the evenings and looking out at the normally bright capital city it seems to me like the apocalypse, she says. but even still, back on the maternity ward another birth, another life-changing moment, another new mom. maria galvanizing the kind of strength, the hope that even this war can't defeat. >> the child born in the war will be very strong. we've made a decision to make it all happen here. >> reporter: molly hunter, nbc news, kyiv. >> it's certain our children will not grow up to this know this war. joining me is former ambassador to ukraine william taylor. we talked about this before. you lived there. where does this resilience and this hopefulness come from in the midst of this horror?
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>> of course it is a horror. it is a horror. and the ukrainians have shown to be very strong. not just their military but as you just described their people, they're mothers and families. they're taking care of each other. ukrainians take care of each other. they organize themselves. they don't want for the government or someone to do it for themselves. they bring it to themselves. they will make it through this and win why they know they will win. >> the secretary general of nato talked about this today. i want to play a little bit of that for you, ambassador. >> what you have seen over now several months are horrific attacks against civilians, residential areas, critical civilian infrastructure andal
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against schools and hospitals. with the high number of civilian casualties. intentional targeting of civilian infrastructure and civilians is a war crime. >> we often make a lot of that phrase but does it have any meaning really? and what can be done? >> of course it does have meaning. there are war crimes every day. every time the russians target a civilian hospital, a civilian apartment, every time a civilian dies at the hands of another strike from the russians. they need to be held accountable. the ukrainians needs to win. the international community has to step up and support the ukrainian justice system already
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in action. the international community has recognized this for war crimes. this is war criminal activity. this is terrorist activity. this is actually an attempt by the russians to wipe out the ukrainians from the map. this is genocide. this has to be held accountable. the russians have to be held accountable and the leadership of russia and this will come. the ukrainians will win and they'll be held accountable. >> will they? what will happen? i was watching president putin meeting with mothers of russian mothers of children. women that lost the husbands. what happens to vladimir putin? we know that there are war crimes and what's happening but
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what happens to vladimir putin? >> the russians will answer that question and what happens to vladimir putin. he's losing this war. often when dictators lose wars they lose their jobs and they might lose more than that so russians will determine vladimir putin's fate. however, as i say he'll be held accountable. there are no statute of limitations on war crimes, on wars of aggression, on genocide. he will be tracked down. he will be unable to travel for the rest of his life. he will be held accountable. >> ambassador taylor on this thanksgiving weekend, we are grateful for your expertise. thank you. >> thank you. today on this native
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american heritage day, the santa fe indian school, a boarding school with a traumatic past but now making a huge difference in the lives of students. nbc's antonio hilton has more. >> for generations families have shashed stories about the history of boarding schools run by the federal government to assimilate the children and separate them from the families. recently the federal government is investigating the lives lost and ruined by that system. there's a new era on old land and turning tragedy into triumph. >> don't be late. >> reporter: for christa becoming superintendent was a dream job. she is not just an adviser. >> for some people it is too painful to come back here?
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>> uh-huh. >> reporter: it was one of more than 400 boarding schools that used separation and violence to stamp out the traditions and spirit of indigenous children. >> you still hear stories from families who say, you know, we'll never send the students to an indian school because of the experiences of my grandfather. >> reporter: this is all that remains of the original building from 1890 where children separated from families, beaten if they spoke the native lack wages. chained if they broke the rules. now it is a reminder of how far this place has come. in 19 76 the tribal governors took control. and now native language and culture are celebrated here. tribal elders teach history. that is a highest graduation
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rate in new mexico. on indigenous people's day the campus transformed. students and families ate, prayed and danced together. >> back in the day we were not allowed to speak the languages, punished we did and dressing up in the regalia and to dance freely shows the resilience. >> reporter: for this senior separated from her pueblo at 5 being part of this is healing. >> i feel like that sparked more of an interest for me to want to go back home and relearn and regain everything lostz. >> reporter: now they teach six native languages. this man teaches the navajo. >> these are the change agents. they're the one that is will make the difference. and we'll see the -- continue to
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hear the lack wage, the prayers, the songs. >> reporter: christa hopes the school is a model. as indigenous americans push lawmakers to create a commission to study records from the boarding schools. >> there is a movement to talk less about race in school. are you finding that you are doing this when there's less support for it? >> there is always been this resistance to accepting that people aren't all the same. if you want to reach your kids you have to acknowledge who they are, where they come from and what's important to them. >> many students we spoke with say their grades and the self confident soared once they switched from traditional schools to this one and hope it's an inspiration for schools across the board. >> nbc's antonio hilton, thank
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you for that. there is a growing debate within the january 6 committee about how much focus for the final report should be on former president trump. that is a priority of liz cheney which details how with just six weeks before the committee is set to complete the work staffers are angered at that focus by cheney on donald trump. possibly at the expense of what they feel are findings unrelated to the former president. joininging me is ali vitale and woo and jeremy parties and susan. this "the washington post" report that describes a brutal back and forth builds on reporting you did several weeks
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ago but it's taken on new intensity. what can you tell us? >> it is clear that they are finally at the point where things are put into the report and also where things are put out. all of us worked on project where is the job is to find out as much as we can and figure out the best way to present that. what's striking about the piece that "the washington post" has done is that these tensions are now spilling out publicly from a committee that has been pretty leak averse. they felt that things were leaking out they did a good job of being able to tamp down and we covered things in the ending weeks and that's where they are. they're making big decisions. they're also at a point with big key questions still outstanding. they are still actively interviewing key witnesses. they met with the lead secret
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service agent on january 6. they're interviewing as they write the final report. with threads lingering like the fact that trump completely bucked the subpoena and other republican lawmakers who they subpoenaed that ignored those and probably will hear about after the committee is done because republicans have shown on the receiving end they flaunt them. that is an interesting thing to come back around now the shoe is on the other foot. >> yeah. niklas, donald trump jumped on the criticism of cheney. what are you hearing from her or the staff? >> the quote from cheney's spokesperson in that "the washington post" story is revealing since like at the end of the day the committee's goal is to produce a compelling
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report that could potentially change the way the american public sees january 6 and means that things will have to be prioritized. so congresswoman cheney seems to think that current parts are less compelling than others and want people to tune in to a tone. that's a challenge for them. same time we that the committee wanted to drop the transcripts and the remaining evidence and release that to the public. so it is a moot point to argue over certain material might be suppressed as the staffers quoted in the story might suggest. it will arrive at the end of the day but the question is the billing the pieces get. >> what impact it will have. we know that it's going to be part of the historical record. that's a key part.
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the political impact given exactly that republicans will take control of the house, where do you see that going? >> once the committee finishes the work it will be interesting the see how they set up the report against donald trump because that's the most gripping part of the findings and what niklas talked about is what i'm interested in to put out the other findings, the other interviews. i understand being concerned on the financial side who paid for these, the people attending january 6. i think that's where democrats can maybe still continue to use the report to fight bag against the republicans and that will be important because the republicans are about to take control of the gavel and whether it's kevin mccarthy or someone when you have someone like jim
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jordan it's going to be subpoenas all over the place and i think the democrats will be able to use this information against democrats. >> yeah. arguably also to tell us as we see this unfold and the reaction where the republican party or the leaders stand right now. you wrote an interesting piece. sarah palin lost her bid she was at the very vanguard of the dog whistling no apologies political culture that donald trump embodies. does the loss tell us anything? >> i think that it tells us that the republican party has largely moved on from the likes of sarah palin.
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to think of sarah palin's taunts could seem almost quaint compared to those of donald trump is remarkable and tells you a lot about how much the political culture in the country degenerated. sarah palin was to use her phrase the mama grizzly of the hard right and the hard populace right in american politics and she in many ways gave rise to the top of politics that donald trump would take up and watched her choicely plotting the political future and without sarah palin i don't think you have somebody like donald trump to capture the imagination of the american electorate the way that he did and everything about her, use of social media and fox news, picking of very strategic
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political enemies and the espousal of the us versus them political culture is all trump. >> i have to ask you, ali, women in the new congress and the role that they will play and so no sarah palin. kind of on the opposite end of the republican spectrum, there's going to be in liz cheney. tell me what you are looking for in the new congress. >> the women to be in republican leadership. people like stefanik. the way she maneuvers the trump question is fascinating and stephanie bias on the republican side. going to be fascinating. the bigger thing in alaska to me as someone on the ground is rank choice voting made a real difference there. they didn't like that she wasn't spending much time in alaska
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campaigning. >> ah. that is a tried and true thing running a political campaign is you got to show up. >> be there. >> thank you for being with us on this holiday friday. we appreciate it. on the world stage, the closest of allies but not on the soccer field. in a few minutes the u.s. and the uk go head to head in qatar. what to expect in the most highly anticipated world cup matchup yet on this side of the pond, next. business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood.
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set the stage for us, and are there plenty of americans there to cheer on team usa? >> chris, first of all, the atmosphere here is electric. i mean these fans are pumped up. they're so excited. they're ready to go. they're ready to cheer on team usa to victory. and they're not worried about other things, they traveled in from all over, from california, from north carolina, new york, kansas, and many of them just got in today. i asked them if it is worth it, and they said they would do it over and over and over again for this moment. they're not worried about the odds. we know that team usa is going into this as the underdog. england is ranked fifth. the reality of it is, it is not all lost, it puts more pressure on them and they absolutely have to defend next week against iran. and what we know about this tournament, it is unpredictable. we have seen upsets, over and
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over again. we saw saudi arabia, versus argentina, obviously that's the biggest one, but we also saw japan beat germany. so what we know for sure is that anything is possible. all eyes on team usa, as they kick off in just a little bit. chris? >> i'll let you know. thank you very much for that. so raf, the u.k. loves its football. is there a pub anywhere in that town that isn't showing the game? >> there's not, chris, there is only one show tonight, and i hope you can hear me, they're playing three games, unofficial english national anthem, after god save the king. so just to set the scene for you, we are here at wembley, a couple hundred yards from the national stadium which is where england won their one and only world cup, back in 1966. the song they're singing right now is all about the decades of
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going so long without winning a world cup. we spoke earlier, i asked what would it mean to win the world cup. take a listen. >> with the heartbreak, i know i can only imagine what the winning feeling would be. >> unbelievable. >> just in case it happens, i took the day off work because it would just be the best day. >> and chris, the official estimate of the british pubs, it is 30 million pints of beer will be drunk across the area tonight. i think that feels a little bit conservative. it feels like these folks might get a significant portion of that on their own. there are a couple of americans here, with the flag, proudly draped over their shoulder. this is very much a hometown crowd. i will tell you, england fans are taking nothing for granted tonight. usa may be the underdog but there is a lot of respect how
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this game is played. >> you should be respectful because you're going down. but thank you, raf. we appreciate that. all right, i know, there's lots of gatherings in new york, and how are things looking in dc? >> chris, sports fans here were lined up down the block, just to get into this bar to watch this match. i chatted with a bunch of fans who are so pumped for this rivalry, mainly because they loved the fact that soccer or rather football is getting this much attention here in america. take a listen to what fan told me about his hopes for the outcome of the match, win or lose, for team usa. >> i have a soccer crazed nation, and i think u.s. is getting into a game that is so popular and if the u.s. makes a deep run, i think it will help the game.
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>> so a lot of energy here, and it is the middle of a weekday, but it is a holiday, which gives folks a reason to come out and have a beer and watch the match, and i spoke with the house divided of friends rooting for england and a girlfriend rooting for usa, so i will be sure to check in with them after the match to see how they're doing. chris? >> can this relationship survive? let me go back, really quickly, i've got one minute for you, raf, because i didn't even let you respond to my prediction for the game, but for people who don't follow soccer, but are going to watch just because of the rivalry, what are you going to be watching for? >> you know, chris, there's a whole lot of pride in this england team, outside of the people who are normal sports fans. this is a young team. it's a very diverse team. in the u.k., it remains a country that loves their team. with a full-out love of the
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team, and this is a point of unification, people feel really good about it and they can get together, whatever their politics, and support the team. they are singing "god save the king" right now. >> i'm hearing none of that british reserve, that's for sure. raf sanchez, julia jester, with a front row seat at least for the tv. thank you very much. that will do it for us. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" 1:00 eastern every weekday here on msnbc. katy tur is here, i can see her from where i'm sitting. she will pick up the coverage right after this short break. le 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. what if we wanted to electrify all of this... 100% carbon free...
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