good afternoon. i'm katy tur. we have an update on the shooting at the walmart in virginia. police have released details on the gun he used and the note he left. plus, it is another opportunity for change, the house has already passed an assault weapons ban. what the senate could do before this congress expires. and also, ahead, this hour, who is buying what this black friday? and what inflation is doing to the shopping season. you might not expect it. and grab a pint at a pub, or a bud at the bar, because the u.s. is taking on england, we're talking world cup soccer.

that's a little bit later on. but first, we want to start with the new details out of virginia. police are closer to a method and a motive as they investigate this week's deadly shooting at a walmart in chesapeake. let's bring in nbc news correspondent cal perry in virginia and former seattle police chief and msnbc law enforcement analyst carmen betz. cal, first to you. they've got a type of weapon and they found a note on his phone. what you can tell us? >> first, the weapon. the handgun was purchased, we understand, the morning of the shooting, legally at a nearby store. we don't know what the store is. police saying quote a nearby store. but again, bought legally here in the state of virginia. this note was found on the gunman's phone as the fbi and atf searched that house the day after the shooting on wednesday. and it is giving them a glimpse into the mind of somebody who was very clearly and we know this because of what happened tormented and deranged. i can share with you some of the themes in this note. this is somebody who was highly paranoid, thinking in fact that

perhaps his phone had been hacked. you can see some of the bullet points there. he felt like he was being mocked and laughed out by his co-workers. he expressed regret that he didn't have more of a social life. specifically that he was in fact not married and he even alluded to the fact that maybe he had been married, that this wouldn't have happened. he expressed his willingness to spare certain employees. we interviewed, katy, an employee who said that it was just completely inexplicable. the gunman had the gun to the back of her head and told her to run and killed everybody else around her. it is a lock way of saying for the families who lost loved ones, for the members of this community, this note doesn't make any sense. none of this makes any sense. we've been interviewing people here, yesterday, and today, who say it's just happening all the time, it's happened a number of times in virginia, and just the past couple of months, and this is a town that i don't think is going to find answers in this note. and again, i should say, the investigation does continue behind me, the police, the atf,

the fbi, still working the crime scene and working the parking lot behind me. >> what can you tell me about the victims, cal? >> so six dead, all of them worked with the shooter. one of them was a 16-year-old. he is the most recent to be named. we saw his family come here yesterday, and they were completely devastated. there is his picture. fernando chavez-barron, a temporary employee, 16 years old. the relationship between the employees and the shooter is obviously what officials are trying to figure out. the other thing i can tell you about these victims, this was a shift change, it was 10:15 p.m. on tuesday night, two days before thanksgiving, people were rushing to get those last-minute items, but it was also a shift change, you had the overnight shift coming in, trying to work and sort of stack those shelves and a shift on the way out. so unclear sort of why the gunman chose that time, but quite likely he close it because he had individual people that he was trying to target. >> cal, thank you.

carmen, you know, i struggle to figure out what to ask you here, because what can you do with a person who is deranged who has a gun who is intent on killing people. >> yes, it is a tough question, and i think that's why we really need to focus as much as we can across the board on common sense gun responsibility, on red flag laws, and other laws that can help curtail the proliferation of guns. we've had 610 mass shootings this year so far, in the united states. and a mass shooting is any incident involving four or more victims of gunfire. so we have in essence an epidemic, and in this case, obviously, any signs, any family members, others, who could pick up on, they certainly should report those, because you never know when you could be preventing some sort of mass shooting as what we've seen here at the walmart. >> so he didn't have, as i understand it, one of the high capacity assault style rifles. he did have a high capacity, a

number of bullets, i'm forgetting the term for it, blanking at this moment, the house has already passed an assault weapons ban, the senate could take it up if they want to, if they have the votes, is that the sort of thing what is going to curb violence like this? magazine. that's the term i was looking for. magazine. sorry. >> high capacity magazines, yes. all of those things will help. not having high capacity magazines, not having the availability for assault weapons, for people, particularly under the age of 21, you know, they there have to be ways that you help curtail the number of people who have access, who can have, you know, really the detrimental effects on others. you know, we want to make sure we have common sense gun responsibility, gun training, the people who know and own these weapons use them safely and if there aren't instances,

cases where they're criminally insane, or mental illness, that would get involved, or their impulsive nature, could lead to people dying. we have more handguns, according to the small arms survey, more handguns in the united states than we have people. more handguns than people. so you really need to take consideration about what laws will be in effect how to control these violent acts. >> thank you very much for being with us and for trying to answer the unanswerable here today. and given all of this, the president, president biden sees another chance to try and curb the violence. here's what he said. >> the idea that we still allow semi-automatic weapons to be purchased is sick. just sick. >> can you do anything about gun laws during the lame duck? >> i will try. >> what will do you? >> i will try to get rid of assault weapons. >> he will try. the house has already passed the assault weapons ban. so what is going on with the senate? let's talk to nbc news capitol

hill correspondent ali vitali, and punch bowl and msnbc political contributor jake sherman. he is going to try. what could that entail? >> it is probably going to entail what we've seen president biden do over and over again, over the course of the last two years, which is say that he wants a push on the assault weapons ban, have a house, over the course of the last two years, that was able to pass it, but a senate, where the numbers don't add up, so this latest push from him, you saw yesterday, while he was on nantucket, on thanksgiving day, the anger that he felt, about the latest mass shooting, was vis rabble. but at the same time, that anger doesn't change the realities on capitol hill, which is they don't have the votes to do this, during the lame duck, but certainly then, you get into next year and the republicans control the house, and it is a definite no go at that point, too. so this feels like a moment where president biden, his best chance is to continue to use his bully pulpit, when he think back over the course of the last year, we did see congress move on gun legislation, jake and i

covered that every single day, the way that they run through the negotiations, between chris murphy and john cornyn in bipartisan fashion, narrow and tailored in the final package and hailed as the most significant push on gun violence legislation that we've seen in decades. so the fact that that is supposed to be the thing that is celebrated, something as narrow and tailored as that, kind of gives you a sense of where the appetite is on this from a bipartisan perspective, to move forward on the gun violence prevention package. it's probably just not going to happen. >> so jake, explain to us why the senate doesn't have the votes. >> there's a million reasons, katy, if you talk to republicans, i agree with everything ali said and i would add one more thing. it was a modest package. it was, in the terms of republicans and democrats, listen, i think there are a lot of republicans who don't see this as the public health emergency that joe biden does. they believe that in their states, people want

semi-automatic guns, they use them safely, that's their explanation, that was taken off the table very early in the negotiations. i would actually think, i'm not even sure, i haven't checked this recently but at that time i'm not even sure there was every single senate democrat on a broad-based assault weapons ban. so i think that it's a, the president is going to say he will do something in the lame duck. it's not going to happen. it is not close to happening. and by the way there is so much congress has to do in the lame duck session of congress which begins on monday. government funding. perhaps debt ceiling. electoral reform. there is just a couple of weeks, we'll have about five or six weeks at the end of the year to get all the stuff done. and an assault weapons ban does no have anywhere approaching 60 votes. >> and they don't have republicans and all of the democrats either. i wonder, do you have a sense and you've seen a lot over the last decade and a half covering capitol hill, you've seen lawmakers get shot, steve

scalise, get shot with an assault-style weapon. what's it going to take? it's not going to take children get shot or shoppers at a walmart, even though that was a pistol, other places, other markets, kids getting shot, lawmakers getting shot, do you have a sense where the line is or if that line exists for lawmakers to say we're a little bit tired of this? >> the line is probably 60 senate democratic votes. the galley would agree with me on this. and remember, the house is going to flip over to republican control in 2023, albeit a very narrow majority and so they have to pass the assault weapons ban again at the beginning of 2023, which they're not going to do. and by the way, in 2024, the senate map for democrats is quite perilous. so i don't know if it is going to take any specific god forbid shooting incident. we've already seen some awfully horrific things in the last couple of years so i'm not sure there is any action-forcing

event that i see. >> ali? >> i have to agree, unfortunately, and i think that you have in this environment right now democrats who fully will paint this by and large as a public health issue and republicans who repeatedly say, even in the aftermath of the shooting that actually yielded change on capitol hill, saying that they wanted to focus in targeted fashion on things like mental health and hardening schools. each side has their talking points at this point. the democrats are really the only ones who want to push further and deeper into legislating around this problem. and republicans don't have an appetite for that. and democrats could have the numbers to go it alone. >> speaking of the next congress coming in and what might change, jake, you and i have been talking about who is going to be the leader, who is going to be the speaker for the republicans. how does mccarthy's outlook look right now? what is it like? >> yes, so he'll have a four-seat majority, katy and he has about six people who say they won't vote for him and he has about six weeks to change at least a couple of those votes to

yeses. i don't know whether he is going to be speaker or not. i'm not suggesting one way or the other. but he has his work cut out for him. the people around him. the people around kevin mccarthy, say he is going to the floor on january 3rd to stand for the speaker vote. something he did not do in 2015, when his speaker bid was derailed. but there has to be a massive sea change in the next couple of weeks, and i'm not saying it's not possible but there has to be a massive sea change for mccarthy to get those votes he needs, 218, the majority of those present and voting, so if there are people who are absent that day, and not voting, that goes down. if there are people who were present, that number goes down. but he has his work cut out for him and i'll add this, katy, i don't see any alternative that has emerged, number one, and number two, the next congress cannot get started until there's this a speaker of the house, people cannot get sworn in unless there is a speaker of the house. i do expect january 3rd to be

quite messy for kevin mccarthy. >> it doesn't have to be someone from the house. it could be someone entirely different. >> if you want to be the speaker, we'll talk about it and i'll text you, no it does not have to be -- >> that would be absolutely the worst job in the entire world. that's just me. >> it does not have to be a member, but it's not going to be not a member. it is not going to be somebody who is not in the house of representatives, i don't think. >> we're going to leave it here. and jake sherman, thank you very much. ali vitali, thank you as well. coming up, a major chinese city is in near lockdown. what does it have to do with apple and the plant that produces iphones? also, as you know, inflation is still painful. what it is doing to the holiday shopping season. and speaking of painful, what's happening in the sky that will affect those of us packing up to go home after thanksgiving?

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it is black friday, and if you thought that inflation would make the shopping season a little slower, you would be wrong. according to cnbc, a majority of shoppers say they're ready to spend the same amount or more this year on holiday gifts. brian cheung joins us from the garden plaza mal in the great state of new jersey. so brian, everything is so expensive right now. ask anybody who had to to go shopping for their thanksgiving turkey this year. why is the money being spent on holiday gifts going to be the same or more this year, even though inflation is still so high. >> well, because you can't have nothing under the christmas tree this year and here at the garden state plaza, plenty of people out here shopping right now, but again, that doesn't mean that no

compromises are being made and as you mentioned survey data shows they will spend the same, and if you consider that things are 7.7% more expensive this year than last year, and that budget might expand across fewer gifts and i spoke to many people at the mall in some cases they're having to shop for fewer people and might only give gifts to the immediate family circle as opposed to those extended you think -- uncles or family members and dolby analytics, show thanksgiving, people at home, shopping on their phone, clocked in at 3 5$.3 billion. that is a record. that bodes pretty well for spending, and cyber monday is coming up. >> what about the protests at amazon, all over the world, protesters, amazon workers walking out? >> this is part of an international effort that they're branding as make amazon

pay. this is a group that is advocating for, on a number of fronts, amazon to first pay higher wages and then pay a fair share of income tax, specifically in europe, and then lastly, to cut back on carbon emissions, these protests happening in the united states, in india, australia, across europe, and outside of jeff bezos's penthouse in manhattan, and a statement from the amazon spokesperson this afternoon saying, quote, these groups represent a variety of interests, and while we're not perfect in any area, if you objectively look at what amazon is doing on these important matters, you'll see that we do take our role and our impact very seriously, end quote. although it is important to note that black friday, a hugely important season for amazon, it remains to be seen whether or not these protests will disrupt that. but again, a lot of amazon protesters advocate for amazon to do better on a number of fronts. >> on the gift front, if you want my advice, my two cents, if anyone cares, i will say that i

have two children, who are small, who certainly love toys, but they love nothing more than the cardboard box that the toy comes in, or the wrapping paper the toy's wrapped with or the fort made of pillows and blankets. so if you're going to shop for a little kid, just do you know, remember it doesn't have to be expensive. sometimes the tv box is more fun than a gift you might buy at the store. >> a great tip. >> thank you. >> and it wasn't bad coming, but it looks like it could be bad going. with bad weather rolling in, you want to double check your travel plans, here's nbc's ron allen from new york's laguardia airport. >> reporter: it's friday and so far, it seems to be shaking up to be a relatively light travel day in the new york area, and we've seen a number of people who are trying to get ahead of the big rush that's going to happen on sunday, it could be one of the busiest travel days that we've seen in quite some

time. we ran into a number of people yesterday, thursday, thanksgiving day, who were traveling as well, the air fares were cheaper, and again, they were trying to avoid the big rush that happens on wednesday. this is a really focused and intense travel season, the thanksgiving holiday, and tsa, the airlines, have been gearing up for this, trying to avoid the chaos that happened during the spring and summer when people started traveling again, in big numbers, so far we've checked the tsa numbers, and the screening numbers for the last few days are not quite up to where they were in 2019. pre-pandemic. but they are ahead of last year and the year before and expect so much travel that is put off because of the covid pandemic. that doesn't seem to be the case now. we talked to a number of people who said they were so anxious to get out and see their families and finally have a real thanksgiving again, after putting it off for the past couple of years. the big bear in all of this is the weather and there are some travel, some weather threats that are looming in other parts of country, moving into the south and the middle part of the country that could affect things

on saturday and sunday. sunday of course will be a real day to watch out for and if you can travel sometime before then, on the roads, early in the morning or later at night, you will be much better off but again at this moment, very few cancellations and nationwide we've seen, things moving smoothly here in the new york area, as we gear up and move ahead towards a big day on sunday. now back to you. >> ron, thank you very much. now let's go to michelle grossman, our meteorologist, michelle, what's it look like there in the sky? i'm going to speak english. >> i totally got what you were saying. hi there, kany. so far today, becoming a little more active. it was so good at the beginning of the week. and active again tomorrow. sunday, unfortunately, the big travel day, we are looking at heavy weather moving in the big hubs in the east, and also chicago and detroit. so let's take a look at what we're looking at right now on satellite and rainfall. some rain falling in the pacific

northwest bringing mountain snow and bringing lower elevation rain. and also, a system in the southern plains, that is bringing heavy rain, we had heavy rain yesterday and severe weather in portions of texas and louisiana. and we're seeing some heavy rain once again on the backside of this system. it's cold. so we're seeing some snow falling in portions of new mexico and far west texas, and up to a foot of snow in some of those spots. we're seeing snow falling in northern new england and mixed precipitation in between, there is a cold front what is moving through. that will move through, that will clear us out on saturday. so for the rest of today, we could see some possible impact from boston, to dc, down to atlanta, and dallas and houston, seeing some impact as well. i looked at the air tomorrow, the east coast looking good, and hopefully you have flight booked tomorrow, boston, to philly to charlotte to miami looking really nice. minneapolis, chicago, detroit as well a new system moves into the southern plains and we're looking at heavy rain once

again, slowdowns in dallas, also in houston, and slowdowns possible in salt lake city, and we're looking at snow falling in the rockies. then sunday, this is the day to focus on, because this is going to be a busy one and we have a lot of rain moving into the mid atlantic, also in the northeast, that is most likely going to slow it down from boston, to new york, philadelphia, and also in dc, and possible delays in charlotte, and then atlanta and orlando. so most of the east coast seeing some slowdowns, or the possibility of detroit, chicago, same story, salt lake city, seattle, and the good news is we will clear it out in the central plains, dallas and houston, looking much better. roadways on sunday, rain and wind impacting the mid atlantic and the northeast. boston to buffalo, i-90, looking at slowdowns to savannah. this is what it looks like, showers continuing in the east coast. some of that has already moved off the coast. some of it in the southeast also. new england and also looking at lingering showers. also new mexico. and we will see that move onshore, in the southern plains

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new missile strikes hit a residential building, a school and gas pipelines and now the head of kherson is evacuating hospitals and relocating patients including children to other cities. joining me now from kharkiv is ellison barber, they just liberated kherson, there is a lot of celebrating for, this obviously the infrastructure there was pretty damaged, when they got in. but these missile strikes, what can you tell us about what is happening there, and why it is so urgent? >> reporter: the last 24 hours, the regional governor for the kherson region said at least 50 people have been injured, 10 people, all of these civilians, killed. they say overnight, last night, it was just a barrage of artillery attacks on the city. on top of that, you have president zelenskyy saying that he is getting reports, almost every hour, of air strikes in kherson. president zelenskyy argues that this is terror. he says it is russia's revenge for failing to make gains on the

battlefield but what we're seeing is it is having very real impact on people. there was already the aspect of people feeling like they had to flee, after it was liberated, simply because they wouldn't be able to survive in their homes, in the condition this winter. now, we're hearing of all of the evacuations, for people in hospitals, being moved to other cities, where they could more safely receive treatment and then there is this constant flood, constant sound of artillery, we're being told there, and these numbers of people targeted day in and day out. again officials are saying this is simply russia's revenge because they weren't successful there on the battlefield. >> ellison, near kharkiv, also pretty hard hit. what are folks telling you in that city? >> yeah, kharkiv was shelled overnight. there was already an air-raid sign tonight, as we were walking around today, you heard the constant just almost like a rolling thunder, the sound of outgoing artillery. it is surreal at times in

ukraine because you always are experiencing, or seeing these little moments where something good is going on in between all of the bad, we saw someone today who was taking weddingnotes in a park they're -- wedding photos in a park and on the other side completely blown out from missile strikes. and we visited a shelter for internally displaced people. and there, we met a man who had been living there for two months, with his grandchildren, and he talked about the horrific experiences he had when his village was occupied, and was in some ways having to relive all of that trauma because right now he is trying to find another place for his grandkids and himself because the shelter they were at doesn't have electricity. >> ellison, thank you very much. there are violent protests in china's iphone city. that's what it is called. workers are clashing with police, seen here in haz-mat suits, over their pay and their contracts, and the largest factory for apple's iphone, it is happening as people across that country, across china, are

getting increasingly agitated over still more covid lockdowns. nbc's janis mackey frayer has that story. >> reporter: the chinese government has tried tweak can its tough zero covid-19 policy to help the economy here but with cases at a record high, they're bearing down again. and consumers in the u.s. are going to feel it, especially people wanting iphones after protests this week at apple's main supplier boiled over. this morning covid cases hitting an all time high across china. the outbreak triggering fresh lockdowns here, along with rising anger. and protests. violence rocking the huge foxcon factory campus where the world's iphones are made. videos there showing workers there clashing with police, wearing haz-mat suits. the chaos was sparked by a pay dispute according to workers, along with covid rules at the plant which is under lockdown.

it is unbelievable this would happen inside china, says a foxcon worker who was there. he also claims thousands like him didn't get sick pay when they were stuck in quarantine with covid. in a statement about the arrest, the company says it's working with employees and the government to prevent similar incidents from happening again. most of the workers lashing out were new recruits. hired after an exodus from the factory last month with the lockdown. foxconn apologized and offered bonuses to any new workers wanting to quit but it poses a major disruption to apple's production ahead of the holiday shopping season. the defiance at foxconn along with protests in other cities show how patience is fraying here under china's harsh zero covid rules and it is a test for the government of xi jingping and officials are depauling to the strategy they know best. like it is the early days of the

pandemic in 2020. >> this is what they mean to a targeted lockdown. buildings sealed off with little notice, when even a single covid case is detected. >> the grinding restrictions have choked the economy and supply chains. making apple customers in the u.s. waiting weeks longer for delivery because the city where the factory is located is under lockdown, too. in a statement to nbc news, apple says they have team members on the ground and adding we're reviewing the situation and working with foxconn to look at employee concerns and the 1400 dollars severance to nose new hires who want to leave is a setback for what should be a busy season for apple. >> thank you very much. coming up next, with the economy struggling more than the rest of europe, some in the u.k. are starting to feel a little bre-gret. we'll explain what that means in

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very insightful, guys. the new subway series. what's your pick? it has been three years since brex it, when the u.k. officially withdrew from the european union, but as the country deals with skyrocketing inflation, amid its worst economy in decades, many are now using the world bre-gret. bre-gret, to describe the growing feeling of regret they feel for brexit. for leaving the eu. financial times editorial board claire and u.s. editor at large, joining me now, jillian, it is a fun little name bre-gret. explain to me what is going on there and why the country is feeling like i don't know, maybe i made a mistake. >> well, it is a bit like relationships, you know, sometimes when you break up, you think well, oof, not quite

right. i was in england earlier this week and i was struck by the degree of economic glue, and inflation rate, 11%, and the economy is contractor, and the worst performer right now in the g-7 and projected to be the worst under some measures in the g-20 aside from russia which is a humiliating position to be in for the u.k. and what people are increasingly realizing is that what they were told when they voted for brexit was simply not true. i mean people like my self have already said that but if you would like to use the phrase, the penny is now dropping across the country, and when the u.k. goes into brexit, essentially 51.8% said they wanted to have brexit, and very narrow margin indeed, and now, only 32% think it was a good idea. so that he there has been a big swing and it is a likely debate right now around the political world about whether there is any

possible way to start creeping back into close relations with the european union. several options on the table. >> so the video we were showing, i mean at first glance, you might think it is the brits celebrating the world cup, because that's going on right now but that was them celebrating brex it but as you said, only passed by a very narrow margin. there is talk about aligning closer to the eu as you were just saying, maybe getting in line with some of the laws that they could have easier trade between countries, and rishi sunak, the new prime minister has some words about that. let me play them. >> let me be unequivocal about this. under my leadership the united kingdom will not pursue any relationship with europe that relies on alignment with eu laws. now, i voted for brexit. i believe in brexit. >> he voted for brexit. he believes in brexit. the conservative party is also polling really terribly right now, probably somewhere in line with how brexit is polling. is this a winning stabs to keep

going on -- stance to keep going on? is there a way to start to turn this around if you're in the conservative party, to start to prove that brexit maybe wasn't a bad idea? >> well, it is worth noting that in the last few months, there have been italian style politics in england but without the sunshine and the good food, and the sense that you have real instability, changing of government, and change of leader, to a degree that you rarely see before the u.k. so what rishi sunak is defendantly trying to do is -- deftly trying to do is to show he is credible and stable and he can count and which the last government didn't appear to be able to do when it came to drawing up fiscal plans and win back the confidence of the markets and he is going about that pretty well. now rishi sunak has always been pro-brexit and he will not roll that back right now not the east of the tories who feel very strongly about this. the critical thing is what kind of brexit, there are several options on the table.

there is the swiss model which basically means that there is very close alignment, and essentially accept the eu rules, without writing them, and there's a norwegian model which is a bit furthermore distance and the canadian model and they call the albanian model which they have almost no rights or ties at all. and some people floated earlier this week that britain could try the swiss model really quite close ties with eu, that has been rejected by rishi sunak, and it is pretty unlikely that actually the european union would agree to do that anyway, because the dirty secret about all of this, that like a bad divorce or relationship, there is so much vitriol, so much shouting, so much heart break, and anger, that it is not clear the european union actually wants the u.k. back any time soon in a particularly close relationship. so i think the best bet is rishi sunak basically starts creeping closer toward the european union, by bringing a number of

different measures in alignment, but does it in a way where no one notices and doesn't create a new round of political fire storms. >> thank you very much. and i want to warn you for this next question, you are on an american network, so who are you rooting for, america or england? >> well, i have lived in america now for a decade but as you can hear from my accent, i grew up in the u.k., and my own kids would kill me if i was rooting for america right now. and one of them is a very keen soccer fan and keen soccer player, and they're definitely rooting for the u.k. >> all right, we'll forgive you this time. thank you very much. and it is day six. a segue to my next story. day six of the world cup in qatar and team usa's second chance to advance. it will be tough, they're tied against england right now, who is ranked number five in the world, coming off a massive 6-2 win against iran. the score is 0-0.

raf sanchez is in london for us and a very loud pub, i believe, and nbc's julia jester is at a watch party in washington, d.c. raf, as i can see, because i've been sneaking peeks during commercial breaks, possession has been pretty equal during these two teams. it is 0-0. what is it like over there? >> it is pretty electric. with a couple of minutes to go until half time. the official estimate for the british pub association is 30 million pints of beer dropping across the u.k. and i can tell you, it may be a little conservative. i think with these folks here, might get to that number on their own. i want to show you something. tilt the camera over here, you can see there are a lot of people here who are wearing rain coats. that is not because of the london drizzle. that is because of the expectation that when england

scores a goal in this game against the u.s., every single pint of beer will go up in the air, just like oath faithful and these people are ready for it. in westbly, northwest england, a couple hundred yards from the english national stadium, that is sacred ground and that is the site where the english won their one and only world cup in 1966. so england, a soccer super power, waited nearly 60 years. a close one right there. we've talked to fans before the game and we asked them their prediction. take a listen to the bravado of what they thought was going to happen here. >> i think it will be a fairly easy win for england. i think maybe 3-1 england. >> it's a lie. england, usa.

5-0 england. >> i'm sorry, i love you guys but no chance. >> love you guys but no chance. that was the verdict about an hour before kickoff. with one-half basically done now, katy, they are not in this pub showing that level of confidence anymore. there are a lot of serious faces down here. people thought this was going to be a walkover, and they are now watching england not struggling but dealing with a very determined, very dawning, very athletic american team. that is the half time whistle. it is still 0-0. and this is not the score the fans were hoping for. >> dangerous to have, all of that hubris, 5-0. it is 0-0 right now and they are taking shots on goal, yes but our keeper is getting them. and julia, what is it like in dc? >> katy, we are here at the nation's capital and i must say the bar we're at is mostly fans

but some rooting for team england and a boyfriend rooting for england, a girlfriend rooting for usa, we will see how that shakes out at the end of the match. i will check in with them. but the energy here is electric. and for fans here, they know team usa, a bit of an underdog in this match and take a listen to some conversations i had where they showed a little bit of hope here. >> do you guys think that usa will beat england today? >> of course, yes. >> it is always a chance. we beat them -- >> underdogs are in. >> we will give them a good fight and really exciting. and people love england, too, so if the u.s. wasn't in the world cup a lot of people here would probably root for england. so pretty cool. >> something else that fans here are hoping for, katy is, that win or lose this match, they

really hope that america gets more into soccer, more into football, it's been a long eight years, and men's national team, for usa, they have been in a world cup, and so they're really excited. and quite frankly, just to be here and to be able to watch their team play in this world cup, as raf said in london, there's a lot of beer here too, and a lot of fun here and hopefully for this crowd, it is fun by the end of the match. >> 0-0, half time and if you know anything about me, you know i have a giant soft spot for the u.k., for england. so i feel it, but you got to be patriotic on a day like this. go team usa. and julia and raf, thank you very much. raf, good luck. i hope you have an umbrella as well, if it happens. if that beer gets thrown. it might not get thrown in happiness, it might get thrown in anger. coming up next, netflix but for air travel.

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