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sunday. joining us with the weekend you know we had forecast. three crises, the >> hi there. civil war, the hopefully most of your plans depression and world war ii. will be for but never saturday, moving around, and about. were things like the sun will shine, a free and fair and will be dry all day election, or the long. peaceful transfer of the clouds rolled power, or the independence in tomorrow night of the judiciary questioned. well now they're questioned. >> filmmaker ken burns with an historical perspective on the election deniers. and how we almost lost our democracy once before. rachel maddow also joins me to discuss one of the darkest periods in american history. and why there's a reason to stay optimistic about the future. >> we have had confrontations with authoritarianism and fascism in this country before. i hear too much defeatism from people in our generation. oh, this is so terrible. there's no way to fight it, it's a juggernaut. no. >> also tonight, a new film explores the history of emmett till's lynching and its aftermath. i talk to the 15 year old actor, jalen hall, who planes till. >> i looked at this as one of

the things that needed to be done. it had to be done to the best of my ability. so that the world can really connect with him on a different level. >> plus, my conversation with the amazing angela bass it on wakanda forever, and how the cast pulled together after the death of chadwick boseman. >> we all have such a deep love and respect for chadwick. we gathered together before we even began to shoot the frame, to remember him, recall his brilliance his love and his tenacity. >> we begin tonight with a victory for american democracy. although the fight is far from over. in the midterm elections, voters all across the country rejected donald trump's slate of election denying candidates. giving some hope that republicans will not succeed if they make a second attempt to hijack a presidential election. i recently had a chance to talk about are in danger democracy with ken burns, for more than

four decades, the award winning filmmaker has been one of our countries preeminent historians. we also talked about his latest book, our america, a photographic history. where burns presents a collection of his favorite photos that is described as embodying nearly 200 years of the american experiment. and in his most recent pbs documentary, burns examined a period -- difficult period of that excess -- leading up to and during the holocaust. >> challenge as americans to think about what we would have done, what we could have done, what we should have done. >> in our better moments, we are very good people. but that's not all there is to the story. >> we talk about that documentary, but first, i asked burns about his new book. >> it's been a labor of love for 15 years, joy, i worked on

nights and weekends on it while i was doing my films. i'm rooted instill photography, the basic building block of all the films are still photographs. my father was an amateur still photographer, my mentor was a still photographer, jerome -- who was photographed in 1949 graces the cover of the book. so, i want to go back, i've been thinking about this for years, and just try to return full value to the photographs. so, there's 250 of them, one to a page, minimal captioning, you look at them you drink it in, it's all of us, good, bad difficult as you are saying about the holocaust. joyous, funny, wars, peace, natural beauty, the whole story of us. is there. all the things we're talking about today, you know, indian schools in carlisle, the capital building in its earlier architectural version. and aguirre shins and peaceful transfers of power, the statue of liberty and the meaning of liberty, jewish immigration, all of that stuff is there. i mean really, to be honest,

it's my america. but i think there's too much of that division now, and we have a website called ken burns -- .com, which is trying to take the evergreen themes of america, represented in these photographs in the films i make, and try to have a conversation with people and celebrate what we share in common, what i've learned if i've learned anything over the more for decades, is that there's only us and there's no them. and when everyone tells you there are them, we're in big trouble. and just run away. >> you've chronicle everything from the civil war to latest hakeem enoree which i thoroughly enjoyed, it was so good. but you confront issues that are difficult to talk about. in this country. i want to play a clip, i just play a clip from the documentary, this is cut for my wonderful directors there, this is the part about charles lindbergh. because a lot of the things that are fastening about history and why i love reading

history, is that it is so cyclical. human beings, because we're fallible, tend to make the same mistakes more than once. and in this country, we have some heroic moments, we have some wonderful moments, but we also have some really difficult moments that we have to confront. so, this is charles lindbergh and something at the time that was called america first. take a look. >> charles lindbergh testified against it. he favored neither a british nor a german victory, he said. and warned that u.s. entry into the war would be the greatest disaster this country has ever gone through. >> it's not just something that is hypothetical. england can fall, hitler will take over all of the european continent, and america first fails to see the danger to the world at large. tyrants will go as far as you allow them to go. they're always testing the borders. can i go further? can i push stronger?

and the american first and the isolationist refused to acknowledge that. >> i've had holocaust survivors, you know, and their children tell me that they feel like we're in a sort of 1930s moment. in this country. where there's an openness to fascism that they haven't seen since that era. what do you make of americans resistance to understanding the difficult parts of our history such that we won't repeat them? >> you know, it's such a wonderful question and it goes to the heart of all of my work. history doesn't repeat itself, as mark twain said, it rhymes. all the films i do seemingly in the distant past, aren't safe. there's an america first committee, what does trump have? there is lindberg who isn't out and out antisemite. he's finally banished, if you will, he says something in this

speech and everybody says, that's too much. if you go back to the declaration, before the list of complaints and after the famous sentence that we know, jefferson talks about how human beings are disposed to suffer tyrannies well evils are sufferable, which seems to suggest that the new thing, that they're inventing a republic of democracy is gonna take a lot of hard work. and people don't generally want to do that work. and they do become susceptible to the authoritarians. and in the 1930s, it was not even clear whether we wouldn't go that way. there were many people urging fdr to take that. and he steadfastly refused to do that, and in some of the ways, the lack of what we would call a gutsy reaction to the immigration crisis, he couldn't do anything, he hamstrung by congress. he wasn't a furor, he wasn't a king, he wasn't a dictator. and somebody said to him, you know, you're either gonna be the best president or the worst president. if i don't succeed, i'm gonna

be the last president. we're always on the precipice, and we see all of this flirtation with authoritarianism. as you put it. in fact, the new york times about a month ago, ran a piece about how people are concerned about democracy, but its way down on the list of the midterms stuff. the midterms have passed. we're taking a sigh of relief that the battle isn't over. but what it said was that that concern about the fragility of our institutions, we had three crises, civil war, the depression and world war ii. but never were things like a free and fair election, or the peaceful transfer of power, or the independence of the judiciary questioned. now they're questioned in the middle of a pandemic and all sorts of bullying and divisions. and so, i would urge people to look at this, winton marcellus said in my guest thing, sometimes the thing and the opposite of a thing or true at the same time. you can actually appreciate this if you marinated, if you

are -- a good friends. you understand it's not absolute. i understood the great progressive writer was asked in a disappointing fashion, by an acolyte, why he liked thomas jefferson. clearly, i suppose because of it ownership of slaves. and stone said, because history isn't melodrama. it's tragedy. which means, to me, that in melodrama, every villain is perfectly villainous, every hero is perfectly virtuous. but life in history, which has recorded life, isn't like that. we have to figure out a way to understand each other, the book is an attempt to do that, all the films were an attempt to do that. and nothing is ever achieved if you run away and put your head in the sand and don't confront the really tough stuff. >> it's so brilliant. it's so brilliantly said. no one is perfectly good unknown is perfectly evil, but it seems there is a faction in this country that is demanding that, for instance, the founding fathers be portrayed is perfectly good. otherwise, they won't allow

anything else to be taught in school. they don't want anything taught about thomas jefferson but does it make him into some sort of saint. but no one's a saint. i want what you would say to some of these governors in a lot of these red states who are saying, well, we can't teach anything about the founders, for instance, that isn't absolute virtue. because it's gonna make white children feel badly. or it's gonna, if you teach about slavery, it's gonna make white kids feel guilty. if you teach anything about the founders that isn't that they were perfect, it's gonna make people hate america. what would you say to those people? >> it's just so simple, joy. in most of those states, the state religion is not christiana tv or whatever, it's football. and if you had a football coach who in high school on a friday night or ask in college on a saturday night, didn't tell it like it was, or really stop on defense the offense was good or special teams where this, if you're not telling the unvarnished truth, you don't

get better and you don't get a new contract, in fact you get fired midseason. so why wouldn't we, if we assume that we're the most exceptional country on earth, why wouldn't we be harder on ourselves than anything. it's not harder, it's just true. you want to look at this fact, that the guy that you articulated and distilled a century of enlightenment thinking into one sentence, we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, he owned 600 human beings in his lifetime. didn't see hypocrisy in the contradiction. that's the story. that's interesting. that's who we are. and if you want to sort of -- you've got to basically essentially say, we want to abdicate our position as the best country on earth. that is to say, we want not to be the best, we want to be ordinary. we want to be nativist. we want to stare -- and have our head in the sand and be ostriches. you know, have at it. a lot of this is just political

posturing. there's more than half of one political party in the country, that believes that the other political party are pet arrests and stop the bloody of young children. this is just a two party system in which we often disagree with each other about whatever, but we don't demonize the other people into some subhuman thing. it's just a function of an out-of-control media environment in which the aid of everyone is allowed to do, and the ego, and the super ego that keeps us in check, but our election just said, you know what, we don't election deniers. we don't want these people who think, you know, these fabulous stories are true. maybe it's compelling and it gets a good laugh at rallies, but we basically want our democracy to continue, and we want to have at least two party system, and we want to respect people who we disagree with just as we hope they will respect us. so, my work is always been

about telling a complex story that doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. isn't so revisionist that it is, you know, everybody is a villain. that's the same melodrama as the other end of the scale. and you just say, you have to be honest. >> yeah, ken burns, you're not a pastor, but that was a sermon. and i'm just gonna go ahead and say, ayman. and hallelujah. this is the book, it's gorgeous. i cannot wait to do everyone is doing, i'm gonna flip through each and every one of these pages and just enjoy them. because i two love photography, i love history. i love this image. i feel scene that you put a black image on the front, the image of african american. >> of course. somebody asked me earlier today, is there one photograph in the book, i said no, but go to the abraham lincoln picture and then look at the cover. because that last picture is taken of abraham lincoln before he was killed, and this little kid in 1949 in harlem with his hockey shirt and issues untied and his hat and the curves of

the car, that's about as american as anything on earth. >> amen. i love it. i absolutely love it, ken burns, you are the greatest. thank you so much, i really appreciate you taking the time. thank you. up next on the readout, the great rachel maddow joins me on the original america first movement, and how history really does seem to be repeating itself in this country. stay with us. lf in this country. stay with us stay with us welcome to my digestive system. it's pretty calm in here with align probiotic. you see... your gut has good and bad bacteria. and when you get off balance, you may feel it. the bloating, the gas - but align helps me trust my gut again. plus, its recommended by doctors nearly 2x more than any other probiotic brand. just one a day naturally helps promote a balanced gut. and soothe occasional bloating gas and discomfort. align probiotic. welcome to an align gut.

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mccarthy got a verbal smackdown from congresswoman liz cheney, for threatening to limit military aid to ukraine if republicans took control of the house. mccarthy told punchbowl news, i think people are going to be sitting in a recession, and they're not going to want to write a blank check to ukraine. it is mark twain who once said, history never repeats itself. but it often does rhyme. and what mccarthy is saying here, sure sounds like something we've heard before in u.s. history. specifically in the 1930s, when fascism was on the rise, across the globe. back then, the u.s. had its original america first movement, centered around opposition to our country, getting involved in world war ii in any capacity. even by sending aid. the original america first hers wanted the u.s. to just live with hitler. some even supported him. and aligned with the not seize hatred of jews. among those leading the charge, where charles lindbergh, radio host father charles cognition and automobile industrialist, henry ford. and their ideas were supported by sitting members of congress.

like senator earnest -- as my colleague and friend, rachel maddow, points out in her amazing new podcast, ultra. >> fellow americans, america prepares to take the last step before entering another world war. i call upon the youth of america to put a stop to these an american pro european doctorates. the people should make known their protest, write your congressman and senators, telephone them, wire them, come to washington to see them. you must do this now. immediate protest will block the way to militarizing our nation. >> and recently, rachel maddow joins me to talk about her podcast and how history is rhyming once again. >> the podcast in the final episodes of the season is about the great sedition trial of 1944, where there's more than two dozen people on trial for seditious conspiracy, they're

charged, not only were trying to overthrow the government by force, all a january 6th, but being hooked up with the hitler government, why they did it. so, it's about sedition. which were confronting now. it's about authoritarianism in fascism in the united states, which we are confronting now. i will tell you, the other piece of it, which i also feel like you and i are of the same mind about, is that it's about there being really, really, really terrible members of congress. you know demean? we think that we're not as bad as they get, and there couldn't be a worse bunch. but like, ernest -- the podcast opens with him dying in a plane crash. in a very mysterious plane crash that stays mysterious. and what emerges is that he's involved in a plot with a made -- from hitler's government. and that's where we left the story of him at the beginning of the podcast. but as we head into this next episode that's gonna drop on monday, you get to meet ernest london's widow.

his wife who is left behind when he died. and you get to hear her try to explain away everything that he did, saying, definitely wasn't not see, all the stuff you guys are saying about him seeming like a not see totally isn't true. it's all just a big misunderstanding. and so, we have a little sound from the senator, but i want to give to you, no results as ever heard this, the sound from senator london's widow. >> roland. >> a number of photographs of my husband were taken well he was speaking. one of those photographs was taken at such an angle as to convey the impression that my husband was standing beneath the swastika. as a matter of fact, he was standing under the stars and stripes. i have beside me for photographs proving the truth of my statement. >> and as chris hayes would've said, though -- >> you think you've seen a photo of him standing underneath a swastika banner? i'm sure he didn't.

well here is the photo of him. you tell me. >> i don't know which is richer, that old american accent where everybody talk like this back in the day, that's part of it. but it is the denial of reality that you can see, to me is the other thing that is resonant between that error in this one. because, if you hadn't put like henry four or lindbergh on tv at that time, they would've denied absolutely that they were part of a not to government. it's like the denial of reality that you can see. and the determination to sedition. it feels so parallel to today. >> and we talk ourselves into this idea that there's something magic about facebook or social media that has allowed people to create an alternate reality where the facts don't count and you can deny reality and it really gets to live in their own bubble. you know what, i'm sorry,

normal -- in february 1941 was on the radio in a nationwide broadcast being like, don't believe your lying eyes, that didn't happen. that was not thanks to twitter. we have had confrontations with authoritarianism and fascism in this country before. they are often fought with -- in fights that will involve very powerful, politically connected people on the wrong side of that fight, and they're often fought in what feels like a post-truth environment. where people deny that they're doing the things they're doing, the worst people among us aren't at all having any complexion about lying. and people who have compunction about lying out there for at a disadvantage in debate. i just feel like, to me, it's a depressing subject matter. forgive me, if the fbi is investigating may based on the things -- in terms -- they need to get back to work. it's a depressing topic, but also feel like it's heartening to me because i hear too much

defeatism from people in our generation. oh, this is so terrible, there's no way to fight it, it's a juggernaut. no. we have fought the stuff in the past in almost the exact same ways. >> you know, the thing that actually does scare me is that the thing that if you go back and you look at that era, what finally rests america out of its america first bubble that we can let hitler be, is number one, an attack on the united states. that brings the country together -- but also the moral authority that fdr was able to wield. and that presidents could wield of that era. the thing that is different between then and now, it's hard to imagine any president of the united states in this hyper era, being able to wield the kind of moral authority or bring the country together under that authority to reverse this push towards fascism. i think that's probably what scares me at least more than nothing else. >> although, when you look back at the hostility to roosevelt, it reminds me nothing so much as the hostility -- it reminds me of the insane

hysterical hatred of barack obama. >> very true. >> the anti-roosevelt forces in this country in the lead up to the 1940 election, literally included a group of well connected, well off, well funded americans, very high resource, high capability americans. who were planning, in the immediate aftermath of the 1940 election, to have 13 man sells all around the country's launch attacks that would set up a violent revolution this country, they figured enough american to be dissatisfied with roosevelt winning reelection, if people would rise up and join. that was happening. henry ford was the most prominent industrialized in the country, charles lindbergh was the most famous person in the country not named president roosevelt. all the titans of industry or part of the america first movement, which was taking support from the hitler government. the hitler government was -- bragging in their internal memos about their great community with those folks. it was very powerful interests

o against roosevelt in a completely hysterical way. and yet, through all these different ways of fighting it, americans did the right thing and beat them back. that's cronies to be told, we need to know those tactics were and how those people were. >> thank you, rachel maddow. and be sure to check out meadows msnbc original podcast, rachel maddow presents, ultra. up next on the special edition of the readout, 14 year old actor jalen hall joins me to discuss his powerful role as emmett till in the new movie, till. which details -- bravery in her pursuit of justice for the brutal lynching of her son. stay with us. stay with us. when it was time to sign up for a medicare plan... mom didn't know which way to turn. but thanks to the right plan promise from unitedhealthcare she got a medicare plan expert to help guide her to the right plan with the right care team behind her. ♪ wow, uh-huh.♪

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for -- down there. are you listening. >> yes. >> you have to be extra careful with white people, you can't risk looking at them the wrong way. >> i know. >> go. the small down there. >> like this. >> that was the morning -- gave her son emmett, or bobo as her family called him, just before he boarded a train to visit mississippi to visit his cousin's. he would never come home a life. well true to life, that was actually a scene from the new movie, tail, by young director

-- the movie portrays a gut wrenching detail mrs. till's journey from excruciating pain and anguish, to steal a determination in her quest for justice for her only child. her son, emmett, who was just a 14-year-old boy, was abducted, tortured and lynched in mississippi after being accused of making advances at a white woman, caroline -- the two white men accused of this barbaric crime, -- and his half brother -- both world war ii veterans, were acquitted by an all white jury. a year later, they proudly admitted to murdering emmett till for money, from look magazine, saying they did it because they wanted black people to stay in their place. caroline bryant, who accused -- later admitted to lying about what happened that. earlier this summer, a grand jury in mississippi declined to indict bryant, who is still alive. even though there was an served arrest warrant for her role until subduction.

it was -- to publish the excruciating images of her sons battered, disfigured body, and her decision to hold an open casket funeral, attended by thousands, that helped galvanize the montgomery bus boycotts in the civil rights movement. the date of his death was deliberately used in 1963 as the date of the march on washington. to this day, not a single person has been held accountable for emmett till's murder. in the new film, viewers are spared the gruesome violence, because the director did not want to make a movie about black trauma. but what we do see, is the story of a mom who loved her outgoing, carefree boy. the task of bringing till to life was left to 14-year-old actor, jalen hall, who had only learned of emmett's story when he was 12 or 13. and he joins me now. i said i only love it when you 12 of 13, you only 15 now. so to me, just a little k little kid. hey, jalen. how are you. >> i'm good. i'm good. you know, my eyes might be a

little glassy, right now because it brings me to tears even thinking about this. and where we've come, i'm just so excited to be a part of it. >> listen, i have to tell you, i had a hard time reading through that script. i'm not keeping it real. there's something about emmett till's story that just does make me cry, it was the way you portrayed it really is what brought it home. he was so joyful and you portrayed him as such a fun, happy boy, he reminded me of my kids. >> yes. >> how did you approach doing a story that is so tragic, what was your approach to it? and what did you know about emmett till going into your addition? >> yeah, so, as far as information-wise, i didn't know everything. i didn't know in such detail. i really only knew the tragic events that happened to him. and i was kind of told to me as a cautionary tale, a means to prevent something like that

from ever happening to me. my mom was the one who share the story with me. but even she didn't know in great detail about the series of events like we do now, with going through the production. so, when embodying a human beings like this, there is the research that you do. to try to gain those traits and those aspects and understand the time period so the dialect and things of that nature. but it's also, like, conveying a authentic accurate 14 year old boy, a joyful boy. a curious boy. and that was my approach on it to really fall into that sort of dynamic. i was 14 when we film this. >> yeah. that had to be hard though, because we live in an era where this is happening to children. >> right. >> it's happening to boys and girls and trayvon martin traumatized my kids, because

they were his age at my time. was it hard to get through playing this role, when he's your age? >> yes. well, i wouldn't say it was hard for me, i looked at this as one of the things that needed to be done. that had to be done to the best of my ability. and as efficient and accurate and as authentic as possible, so that the world could really connect with him on a different level. and of course, there is that kind of first instance of pressure. with giving a voice to historical figure who never really had his own, at least for our world to see today. but after that, that little realization, i embraced the responsibility, the honor with open arms. i'm so blessed and thankful to be able to have done that. >> you're out here working with

whoopi goldberg's is executive producer of this film, who originally thought about playing his mother at one point. you're working at a high-level, young man. give us a little bit of where you came from, your background, this is your first big thing. you're about to be a star. >> well, this is my first big movie. at least in theaters and stuff like that. yeah, this is really big. i started out in atlanta, atlanta georgia which is where i'm from. and moved out to l.a. which started my career. i made my ways there, starting with all american which is now on its fifth season. and yeah, just continuously going on my journey climbing and stuff. i'm really appreciative, and most really appreciative of my mom. who was there with me

throughout everything, who was really the main reason that i'm here. because without that support, without that push that she gave me, and that nurturing of my dream, then i wouldn't have been here today. >> you're gonna make me cry now, because his mom, you left your mama. you played basically a perfect mom son, mama's little man, beautiful boy. and you did such a good job. it was hard for me to watch it. but you made it easier because you are so good in it. jalen hall, we're gonna see a lot of you, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i would have to call you nephew know, -- >> please do. >> okay nephew, have a good night. thank you for being here. >> jalen hall star is on the rise, angela bassett is a hollywood legend. i recently had a chance to speak to queen -- about black panther, wakanda forever. and the loss of the late great chadwick boseman. and that's up next. chadwick boseman and that's up next and that's up next my most important kitchen tool? my brain.

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wakandan's fight to protect their nation from intervening world powers in the wake of king to china's death. actress angela bassett reprises her role as we conduct queen mother. >> there was another attack on one of our outreach facilities. proof of the involvement of a member state. as being uploaded to your mobile devices as we speak. and as for the identity of the attackers. [speaking non-english] we're ready. long live wakanda. joining me now is the one and only gorgeous, incredible regal angela bassett, who plays queen

ramonda in wakanda forever. oh, it's so wonderful to talk with you. i don't even know where to begin. i'm so excited about this film, i know everyone is so excited about it from the soundtrack dropped by rihanna, to seeing you in that gorgeous regal outfit. but i think we're all prepared to go in there and cry a lot. because of the absence that so glaring in this film, i just want you to talk for a moment about doing this film and doing it with that loss that you all had to endure. >> oh, yes. absolutely. we all have such a deep love and respect for chadwick, and for what he meant to us individually, what he meant to this film, you know, the way he led us and shepherded us and that's the love and respect and

energy that we brought to wakanda forever. the loss was monumental, and every day on the set, there were tears. all over the place. you had to watch yourself and keep from slipping. there were so many tears. but we had each other. and we gathered together before we even began to shoot the first frame, to just remember him, recall his brilliance and his love and his tenacity. and we pay homage to him on screen in such a beautiful and respectful and incredible way. i'm very proud of that, very proud of the heart, the soul and the caring of the filmmaker led by ryan kugler. and we just were behind the men, and stands a strong women. we can drive this film, we

carry it. it's exhilarating. >> and you know, that is one of the most beautiful things about the first film and what emerged from it, just watching those of you who are in the film interact with each other. you were clearly a family. which was one of the most beautiful things about it. yes, what you just said is the next day i will talk to you about, this is a genre, a sort of theme of empowerment of women. and the women in wakanda are the warriors, the women are the heart and soul of the kingdom. and so, i'm just excited to see what is the evolution of the women of wakanda, what are we gonna see from them in this film? >> well, the loss of -- four is there. we need it -- we meet it head on in the beginning. and the women, she has to step in as mother in wake of the great loss of her brother. she has to step up to protect and secure the nation in the

loss of the king. and also, to just shore up the hearts and souls of the people. and we had to carry on. we have to carry on anyway. -- they -- heard her brother were extremely close, her in chadwick, extremely close. you have to, i guess, meet this grief and find a way to process it. so we see that happening with the character. the general, she fought by his side and for him, and the charming banter between one another. so, even though she's a warrior, she's a warrior with a big heart, and we sense her loss. and what does his love, the love of his life, and how she manages that. so, in a different way. we all have our different ways of dealing with it.

but we are there in time of need. we're there for each other. >> you know, this film is coming out at a time that's very difficult in this country to say the least. and difficult in many ways, particularly for women, with a loss of so many of our fundamental rights. particularly for people of color. who i think feel really that sort of targeted. by the politics that we're seeing coming out of one side of our political spectrum. i want to show you really quickly, something that you said. this was at the glamour women of the year awards where you received a lifetime achievement award, i want to play you for you. this is what he said when you achieve that award. >> we are courageous. like -- until. we are underestimated. like rosa parks. we are fearless, well like --

coleman. we are resilient like tina turner, the legacies of these women, and so many more, are what keep me going. >> okay, i'm gonna resist the urge to comment on that fabulous, gorgeous dress, and just ask you, give us some encouragement. we need some encouragement from the queen mother. give us some encouragement. what keeps you grounded and centered at times when i think a lot of women do feel like their strength is faltering. what keeps you going? you just mentioned your heroes, but what else can you give us, just a word, we need a word from you. >> oh lord. well absolutely be a person of faith. you know, i look to the healers from which commit my strength. so, that's first and foremost. and i look to the side, to each side and in front of me. into the strength of women who are, whose feet on the ground

just like mine, who do not walk on air. but who have struggles. we all do. and that is what makes us richer. and more complex and gives us strength. so, each of those women that i mentioned, you know, they went through things. they went through things. they gave a lot of themselves for the struggle. and i just don't take their sacrifices in vain. and whatever it is you do, whatever it is you are, you can make an impact. you can make a difference. be a big, or be it small. and everything. everything positive, which is euphoric. so we need you. we need you. we need each of us. >> the great angela bassett, queen mother ramonda of wakanda, wakanda forever my sister, thank you so much for being here. you are brilliant, we love you. thank you so much.

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what better time to focus on what we're thankful for. i for 1 am thankful for many things, my wonderful family and friends, including my amazing readout family. all the producers, graphics team that behind the scenes folks in the fabulous crew get this little train running five

nights a week. i'm also thankful for the u.s. constitution, you know, the one that justice alito is so disappointed that they amended in the 19th century. it leads with freedom of speech, the first amendment, which believe it or not, is not the freedom to slick people on twitter. it's about being able to speak freely to power, without being punished by the government. i'm thankful that the 20th century, be at the constitution in america -- better by giving women the right to vote. workers the right to unionize. imposing an income tax that the rich theoretically have to pay to and opening the door to racial integration. the right of the descendants of slaves to vote. and civil rights that thankfully came to include lgbtq americans. and for a brief 50 years, gave women control over their bodies. maybe we'll get that back in all 50 states one day. i am thankful that america finally elected its first black president, and that his former vice president's president today. along with a woman vp.

at a time when russia is running roughshod over human rights, and fascism is reasserting itself worldwide, it's good to have an adult in the white house. i'm thankful for nancy pelosi, who showed a generation of women what power looks like when wielded in an expert female hands. and i wish the outgoing speaker and her husband healing and peace this holiday. and i'm thankful for you, our viewers. you give me the strength to speak truth to power. and to hate, which as we know, is not a cost free endeavor. so thank you, for watching the readout, and we will see you on the other side of the turkey, or in my case, the korean roti. one love, pham. and that's the read out, enjoy your weekend and we will see you back here on monday.