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live from nbc headquarters in new york city. we have lots of questions to have an answer, so let's get started. donald trump and full damage control mode over his latest dinner guest at mar-a-lago. who he hosted, that is the serious backlash, including from one of his own advisers. plus, another wave of mass shootings has president biden renewing his push to ban assault weapons. how he hopes to use congress's lane and accession to his advantage. and later, frustration on the january six committee, why some staffers are reportedly angry with list cheney over the panel's final report. all of that and more is coming up. and good saturday morning to, i am katie phang. thanks for starting your saturday with us. in the last seven days, 23 people have been killed, and another 53 have been hurt in mass shootings in the united

states according to the gun violence archive. that includes the shootings on an lgbtq bar in colorado, and a walmart in virginia. and, fresh off a better than expected performance in the midterms, president biden and the democrats are renewing their push for a ban on assault weapons. capitol hill correspondent -- joins us live this morning ali, this is quite a goal that president biden has set for the lane duck session. >> yeah, it is quite a goal, but it is hard to see this push go anywhere. nevertheless, you heard from the president just in the last few days, reacting to the latest in a string of mass shootings. you can hear in his voice, he is emotional, and visceral. this is what he said. >> the idea we still allow semi automatic weapons is sick, it is just sick. it has no value, zero, none,

not a single solitary rationale. >> can you do anything. >> i will try to get rid of assault weapons. >> and look, you can hear him there, katie, saying he is going to try, but again the numbers are not there in the senate for him to do anything on banning assault weapons. of course, you and i both know those, well a lot changes -- the senate wants to take on yes, funding the government, that is the essential thing they have to do an electoral reform at the senate wants to take up in these next few weeks. and so, this is something that

biden's best work will probably come from using the -- trying to keep the focus on this, but legislatively it is hard to see anything getting done. >> sounds like big plans, and a very short runway. ali vitali, live in washington, thank you so much for joining us this morning. so, what can president biden actually do about this problem that desperately needs a solution? coming up, later i will ask chris round that exact question. , she is the president of the group have been fighting gun violence in this country for nearly 15 years. now to ukraine, where russian forces have escalated their attacks on the southern city of kherson, killing ten people and injuring at least 54 others. that is according to local officials. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says this recent shelling is, quote revenge for ukrainian troops, reclaiming the city for russian control. this as the british defense

ministry claimed that the ministry is removing the or heads from nuclear missiles, and firing the unarmed munitions at ukraine. for more on all of this, this, morning and the growing concerns about the power situation there, we turn to nbc news correspondent alison barber in kharkiv. >> blackouts continue in most regions in ukraine right now, about 6 million customers here are set to be without power. according to president zelenskyy, that is half of what it was wednesday evening. life here in ukraine, it is full of contrast, things like this, blown out buildings next to beautiful churches, beautiful parks, we spent some time yesterday at a shelter for internally displaced people, and there we met a man who has been living in that dormitory with his grand children -- he's in a position, a place where he has to forgot what he will do in winter months,

because it is without electricity. listen. >> my grandchildren saw me being taken away, then got my head tied up, and threw me. we will go spend the winter with my daughter, our house is destroyed, might everything in this round. i'm a person without any documents. >> the general armed forces of ukraine says they were able to repel -- in settlements in the donetsk region, meanwhile the russian ministry of defense says they were in their words it will denuclearize -- katie? >> thanks to alison for that reporting, we have breaking news out of qatar this morning. a fire broke out in a city set to hold a world cup match later

today. that is according to the associated press. they are saying the fire started just after afternoon local time, doha where many world cup fans are staying. this comes as the u.s. men's national team -- to miss is now in third place empty, which means they have to be in red on tuesday in order to make the what cups lost six teams. and, after two years of pandemic restrictions, brick and mortar shopping is finally back. americans are starting to source and full force this, week hunting for deals amid record high inflation. online shoppers not shining away from their favorite sites either, with cnbc reporting online black friday sales are set to talk a record breaking nine billion dollars. and, today, mark small business saturday, where mom and pop retailers hope to get into the

block after u.s. of a very challenging economy. for more on that, we turn to nbc news business and data reporter brian chung. brian, good morning, are people out there spending? >> good morning, not yet, it is a little early out here in new jersey, katie. but i was at the mall yesterday, garden state plaza, and a lot of people coming out to shop for black friday. a few numbers for you, all this against the backdrop of high inflation. 7.7%, that is how much more expensive things are this year compared to this time last year. the ask used american budgets. we had data from delight that showed americans one of spending about 1400 $55 this holiday season, that is about the same as it was last season. of course, with everything more expensive, that means that budget is going to stretch across fewer gifts so americans say they might only be able to afford about nine gifts without budget instead of 16 as they might have spent in previous

holiday shopping season's so inflation crunching on americans but that did not stop them from going out because of course you can't have nothing under the christmas show this holiday season. >> brian chung, thank you for braving the shoppers, and we appreciate your reporting. coming up, kevin mccarthy desperately wants to be speaker of the house, but how far will he go to get it. the new threats is making against democrats as he's trying to win over extremist republicans. plus, the doj wants to talk to mike pence about what he knows about january six, and he is reportedly open to it. what that could mean for donald trump, and whether he could try to stop it from even happening. joyce vance is here. e vance hisere. but static says “whoa.” try bounce lasting fresh dryer sheets. ♪♪ more freshness. more softness. less static. less wrinkles.

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the driver even knowing about it. now with one grieving mother is warning -- >> this is her as a baby. >> it has been nine months since -- lost her daughter alex. i have really been taking things a minute by minute, forget day by day. >> alex wasn't recovery for seven months, but died from a fentanyl overdose just two days after her temporary release from a sober house, needing to quarantine from covid 19. >> we made sure that she was in a good place where she was safe. >> alex was staying alone in her family's home in a gated community, where and treat was monitored by security, and her mother. one morning, she received an alert from the front gate, it was an uber with a delivery for alex. >> she used to always order food, and it wasn't anything out of the ordinary.

>> but it was not food, alex connected with a friend online, and bought fentanyl from him, he used uber connect to deliver it to her. >> never in 1 million years what i think that they were delivering a lethal dose of fentanyl. but that is what happened. >> wilbur connect was created during the pandemic, a fast way to santa goods with drivers, unlike the postal service and other major delivery services, uber connect packages are not randomly inspected, and drivers are not allowed to open them. nbc news spoke to six former and current drivers telling nbc, they worry some of their packages were suspicious, and they are unwittingly being used as drug mules. this driver asked us to conceal his identity, and disguise his voice fearing retribution. >> -- [inaudible] >> uber says using a services

for illegal activity is expressly prohibited, and if a package looks suspicious, drivers are advised to take it to law enforcement. in the case of alex, and over spokesperson confirmed they provided information to law enforcement in this investigation. the man who allegedly sold and sent alex drugs through brooklyn act now faces charges in connection to her death. >> what do you hope other families can learn or take away from what has happened to you and your family? >> watch their kids closely, their loved ones, our country has a serious fentanyl crisis, i would say just pay attention. nbc news, phoenix, arizona. right now house minority leader kevin mccarthy is so close to becoming house speaker, he can almost taste it. he just needs a few more extreme friends on his side. and that is what we are seeing

him pile on the threats about what he will do once this party controls the house. here's what he said about homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas this week during a trip to the mexican border. >> secretary mayorkas does not resign, house republicans will investigate every order, every action, and every failure will determine whether we can begin impeachment inquiry. we will hold our hearings at the border, so the democrats can no longer hide from the crisis they have created. >> you heard that, right regular hearings are not good enough for kevin mccarthy, he quite literally wants to take his show on the road. it seems to fit what we are seeing so far about what republicans will do when they have the house majority, plenty of, performance not much in the way of governing substance. this morning, congressman -- democrat from massachusetts joins us. congressman, thank you so much

for taking the time to be here, look, you and i both know there's quite a difference between the two parties in the house right now. while democrats are rallying around a new generation of leaders, the top republican is doing whatever he can to check up to some of the most extreme members of his caucus. are these idle threats, or do you think mccarthy will follow through on that? >> well they are idle right now because kevin mccarthy hopes to become speaker of the house, but need to continue a trend that we have seen over the last several years. it was the gop is increasingly playing to its extremist base in order to rally out the votes here. we saw the 2022 midterms they are rejecting extremism, and i hope he heats that lesson. the gop wants to come and take the initiative and focus on lowering costs for families, and its independence, democrats are ready to work with them. we just came off the hills of one of the most bipartisan

congress in history. bipartisan investments in semiconductor manufacturing, science, gun safety legislation, when speaker pelosi's leadership and now with hakeem jeffries leadership, democrats are ready to work together to put face on the problems facing the united states monopoly tickle fear and made an embed scurrilous attacks on a president design only to weaken him. >> on top of all the investigations, house republicans are -- off of committees like eric swalwell, adam schiff. people who are actually getting the job done for americans. what is going to be the result of a party with control of the house for two years, that seems completely focused on political revanche and nothing else substantive for america? >> there are problems that we have right now the cost of housing, cost of health care, fossil fuel emissions that simply can't wait for two years. we cannot afford to do nothing for two years while kevin mccarthy engages in showmanship

and political theater for the delight of his freedom caucus and hard-core base. so just disappointing to me, but make no mistake, with hakeem jeffries, with john goose, democrats have a new generation of dynamic leaders, and we are not going to sit back for two years and let them launch hearings and allegations and attacks without merit. we are going to fight back ferociously. >> congressman, mccarthy has also threatened, as have other high-profile republicans, to reduce financial aid to ukraine if the gop were to take over a majority of the house. i know you served as a captain in the marine corps for the united states in active combat, how dangerous is this proposition to american national security if the republicans follow through with that promise? >> it is another example of brinkmanship and squabbling to the base as opposed to doing what is best for the country. ukrainians are fighting on the

front line of the free world, -- engaged in three separate initiatives, one is strong alliances to byzantine a different to russia, to has been the effect of sanctions on russia, we will add to those this coming month with energy sanctions. the third has been essential being sanctions. as well as financial military support for ukrainians fighting. this has been effective, it is working, ukraine is on the march, kherson has fallen. the last thing we need right now is a divided united states trying to rally the world going into a long winter. >> our thanks to congressman this morning, thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> and coming, up trump's team and for damage control mode after he hosts a white supremacist at mar-a-lago just one week after announcing his 2024 run. does this give republicans yet another reason to get behind others like ron desantis? might power political panel is here next.

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2024 campaign, donald trump is already a major damage control mode. on tuesday, trump posted kanye, formerly known as kanye west, and a white supremacist nick -- for dinner at mar-a-lago. one longtime adviser telling nbc news, it has been a quote death nightmare. in the statement, friday trump called the dinner quote, an eventful. trump must have different definitions of that word, let's take a closer look at that guest lists. kanye west is currently losing billions of dollars in brand deals for his recent antisemitic comments on social media, and -- is a white supremacist holocaust denier who attended the unite the right rally in charlottesville. he openly uses his platform to spew hate speech, and shout about the american population

becoming less white. despite his high profile on the far-right, including ties to marjorie taylor greene, trump denied knowing who he is. this, despite the fact that -- there's a verified user of trump's own social media platform truth social. kanye shared his own dignity brief on twitter. take a listen. >> so trump is really impressed with nick, nick unlike so many of the lawyer so many of the people who was left with on his 2020 campaign, he's actually loyalist. he did not know what the loyalist, is you will still have your loyalist. >> and, speaking of loyalty, this latest move comes as trump is already facing criticism from his own party, after many of his chosen midterms candidates lost. could this be more fuel for many republicans were hoping others like ron desantis will bump trump out in 2024? joining me now is former white house aide alina beverley,

alina, thank you so much for being here this morning. trump's own former ambassador to israel david friedman called trump out on twitter, saying even a social visit tournament and testament like kanye west and human scum like nick fuentes is unacceptable. does this dinner gives republicans more of an impetus to dump trump in 2024? >> absolutely. look, it is just a little over a week since donald trump announced that he was going to run for 2024, and already he's breaking bed with those who would spew antisemitic and white nationalist rhetoric. nick is characterized by the anti-defamation league as being a white nationalist. this isn't a time when antisemitic hate crimes are on the race, we already know that kanye west now known as ye has been dumped by his endorsers with adidas and others. just recently, got back on social media with twitter. but the larger picture here is

that donald trump knows what he is doing its base is white nationalists. this is not enough for him to play he did not know who these people are, we know that donald trump tries to claim ignorance when he is at his worst, when he is doing his most damage. we can't afford to give him a pass based on ignorance when folks like nick were present at the january 6th riot, at the january six insurrection. that is why it is so important that we have the report coming out from the select committee on january six that can capture all of trump's wrong doings all the ways in which he has fulfilled hit in this country the ways he helped to foment an insurrection and how he sought to overturn an election in order to consolidate his power. ignorance is not enough. >> elaine, i want to talk about that 16 report, shortly but it

is not funny but funny. apparently nick is the new -- because trump denied knowing who nick is, why do you think that is the case, putting aside the obvious for you and me and the most decent people of the world, because back when he was in office, trump called white supremacist who marched in charlottesville very fine people. so why the denial that he knows or knew that nick actually stands for what he does this is donald trump's mo. he always tries to claim he doesn't associate with white nationalists. he doesn't know them. he also well wink and nod and the same breaths and so proud boys, stand back, stand by. this is a man who will use the defense and ignorance all the time. but continues to further the types of violence, hate crimes, white supremacy that has helped keep him in the public eye.

and secure him in office. >> as we mentioned a year ago we switch to news about the 16 committee. they were floored to find out the final report would focus entirely on donald trump. one staffers at the 16 committee became makes cheney 2020 -- 2024 campaign. ellen, i do think it's misguided for the 16 finals report to focus exclusively on trump and not allow other parts of the investigation to be included? >> i don't think it's misguided too focused on trump. i think those important reasons, mainly that this is the first ever president, as i mentioned, who tried to overturn the legitimate outcome of an election, that tries to insinuate an insurrection, to consolidate power. this is an opportunity for the select committee to potentially

make criminal referrals to the department of justice. this is edging not only the evidence into the historic record, because as americans, our national memory, when it comes to difficult things, can be very short. and this report will make it endure. but, it also plays out the case for the department of justice, of trump's actions. i think that's important, it's important to focus the national consciousness, and the department of justice especially with that appointment of special appointment of jack smith as special counsel. who has to get up to speed. i don't think that the focus on trump should be to the ultimate exclusion of other important evidence, about the rules and -- of security and failures of intelligence and, failures of security at the capitol. or to the radicalization of extremist groups. but, there are other ways of getting the information out to the public, other ways to ensure that this is part of the

potential legislator records going forward. i do think it is important for this report to lay the case plainly out against donald trump. >> so elena, we've got jennifer horn to join us, jennifer, good to see you. and thanks for joining us right now. in the time that we have left, jennifer, i want to ask you the same question. the washington post reporting, other critical parts of the 16 investigation including a lot enforcement response, financing of the attack, domestic extremism, all of that could be left on the cutting room floor if the -- liz cheney gets away. jennifer, what is the public's best, interest when it comes to the final report of the 16 committee? >> of course we have to know how this happened, where it's organized, where it came from, there's so much more than what happened behind the scenes before trump took the stage before the rally that day but there is no question the most important thing is that this committee lays out, as our guest said, barry plainly and

clearly, what the president of the united states did, how he participated, how he led this, the very -- the lead role that he played and literally trying to stage a coup, against the united states of america. we can't forget the lessons of the mueller report. it seems like there is a very clear obvious finding, and yet went nowhere. we cannot let the mueller report happen again with this. . >> the, words welcome to the world of live tv. we have a general warm cameo. just in time from a power political panel, i appreciate you, and welcome you both back soon, thanks for being here this morning. and, and favorable scoreless ruling, and possible doj, when

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vice president mike pence lately, largely because he's been an immediate georgia promoters notebook. but the biggest prior pence related headline isn't about what he said in those interviews it's what he might say next. the justice department might want to talk to pence about the january, six insurrection, according to two people familiar with the matter. pence was reportedly open to this particular request because it came from the justice department, of the house committee and they have not come from this reporting. for the record, chopped not asked this week, if trump committed a criminal act, implementing the insurrection. >> i don't know if it is criminal to listen to bad advice from lawyers. truth is, what the president was repeating is what he was hearing from the gaggle of

attorneys around him. >> pence went on to say, this should be a time of healing. and pointed figures at the justice department. when plotted by chuck todd, he added no one is above the law. here to dig deeper's former u.s. attorney, current professor at the alabama school of law, and msnbc analyst joyce vance. thank you for being here this morning. you and i are lawyers, mike pence is not a dumb guy, but apparently mike pence believes that a president listening to bad legal advice makes him innocent. what are the chances that that is what pence tells the doj, and whether it's actually going to be different than what he's saying publicly? >> right, it's an interesting response that pence gave to chuck todd. for one thing, it's not up to pence to determine whether the president engaged in criminal conduct. that's up to the doj in the first instance and ultimately to a jury, of the former

presidents peers. but pence's characterization of the evidence here is also berry -limited. saying only that trump took a repeated bad advice from a gaggle of lawyers. and that of course is exactly what doj will want to talk to him about, under oath in front of a grand jury. it's clear to anyone who is even, you know, engaged momentarily in watching these stories, that trump did for more than just repeat what lawyers were saying to him. and pence was involved in some one-on-one conversations with the former president, at key moments, trying circumstances, able to shed light on what trump knew, what trump was planning, and what his level of engagement was. so this will be very important testimony for the justice department. whether it tends to establish the former president engaged in criminality, or if it's exculpatory. whether it does diminish the notion that they might be

criminally was responsible pence's testimony is essential. >> i don't think it's gonna be exculpatory, but it sounds like it's crucial testimony for the department of justice. can donald trump invoke executive privilege in an attempt to prevent mike pence from appearing before a grand jury and providing testimony? >> right, not successfully. the reason for that is the individual who has the ability to claim executive privilege is the current occupant of the white house, joe biden, but even beyond that executive privilege is not absolute, that's good case law from the nixon era, that has to fall in the great need for testimony. that is the case with pence. and katy, you, know reflects of -- as a former prosecutor, i feel compelled to point out that prosecutors don't go into these during pre-judging the guilt. they listen to the evidence, follow where it leads, sometimes it establishes, guilt

sometimes it tends to provide some barriers that make it difficult for prosecutors to get their. but it's important for prosecutors that they have access to all of the evidence in this situation executive privilege is not something that will prevent that. >> let's talk about trump who has zero to be thankful this week. the house gets a look at his tax returns, and federal appeals looks like they're ready to end the review in the mar-a-lago documents case if. that happens, many believe an indictment of trump for unlawful possession could come soon thereafter. how far have viewers leave re-write these tea leaves, joyce, how important are these recent developments? >> they're incredibly important in two different ways. although this congress is one winding to a close, it's not clear the house will be able to make much use of trump's taxes, which of course could be very

important for writing new legislation to prevent abuse of the emoluments up. what they did do was establish a legal precedent, that could be used by the senate, if they choose to pursue the activity. that's important in a former, and future looking way, but when you think about the mar-a-lago case, that poses a far more immediate threat to the former president. that is the prosecution that looks like the furthest along in terms of where the investigation is headed. the evidence is a little cleaner, it's more narrowly focused in the january six investigation, which has a lot more moving parts. and, so this progress in mar-a-lago, which could be aided if the 11th circuit roles as many people including myself who heard that argument expect, then it's time for federal district judge aileen and her

interference in the investigation. once that ruling issues from the 11th circuit, doj will be able to use all of the evidence in that case, and continue to move forward towards indictment. >> joyce, i've got about 30 seconds left. i want to ask you a question i've asked you about -- on other shows i've had with you. we know lindsey graham has testified in front of the grand jury in fulton county. brian kemp, for example. there's been some high-profile witnesses appeared in front of that special grand jury down in georgia. do you think the fulton county da investigation and with an indictment sooner than we get one from the doj? >> it's a really interesting question. the fulton county special grand jury is about to wind up its investigation. and fani willis will need to go back to a regular grand jury to seek an indictment if she chooses. but prosecutors fast does never virtual. getting it right as what matters more. i think we will see all these

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including the mass shootings this week, at a colorado lgbtq, nightclub who killed five people, and a massacre at but you know walmart that left six people dead. recent shootings igniting some unfinished business for biden, who is renewing his -- foreign assault weapons ban he signed into a first law gun central legislation in decades providing grants for red flag laws and the closing the boyfriend loophole which prevents people convicted of domestic abuse for mourning a gun. and funding additional mental health stoppers this. because of gop obstruction, noticeably absent, was a ban on assault style weapons. biden is holding out, home that during congresses session, they may be able to convince some departing republican senators, who are unlikely to face voters again, to support an assault weapons ban before in new

congress is warning on january, and republicans retake the house. joining me now, for more, on how we can address the, gun violence epidemic in a country, its president of brady, chris brown. chris, thanks for being here on this incredibly important topic. we saw this ban on assault weapons pass in july. how should biden make the case to senate republicans that they should vote for it now? he needs ten gop senators on his side to break the filibuster, but only six are outgoing. >>, katie thanks for having me on. it's such an important topic because all of us as americans are reeling from one mass shooting after the next. you noted we have more than 600 mass shootings this year. and of course, what we see time and time again, assault style weapons are the mass shooters weapon of choice for a reason. these are designed to kill as

many people as quickly as possible. so i think biden who was use the bully pulpit so very well during his presidency so far on a range of issues including passing up first major comprehensive bill in more than 30 years to address gun violence, needs to speak to and he's already done that, but the way he blends the both the pragmatism, and heartfelt lead and desire to make this change, it's important. and it's also practical. not we saw a huge number of millennial and gen z voters, vote for gun violence prevention. there are millions of people turning 18 between now and the next election. so i think sending u.s. senators, as much as those leaving have to understand that

those voters, those voters are voting for their lives, and they are prioritizing gun violence prevention, including us assault weapons ban. i'm >> so glad you brought that up. because statistics show the people who want laws to combat gun violence or the young people you just mentioned. the gen z, millennials, they are now voting in record numbers, as we saw in the midterm elections, we are even seeing them win seats, like maxwell frost, is gen z, and he ran on a gun control platform. they are voting for democrats right now. do you think this will false republicans to change their tune, especially, as you said, they want to be able to retain their seats, or get a seat. >> regardless of what party you affiliate with, if you're running for office, you want to win. and it's clear that if you want to be on the winning side of this issue, you need to stand for gun violence prevention. for gun safety. and candidates can do this, as we saw, to get the bipartisan

safer communities to the u.s. senate. took more than 60 votes, but we've got more than 60 votes. including republicans who had never voted in their career, for this kind of gun safety legislation. and i think they're reading the tea leaves already. and understand that they can't side with the gun industry, which is about profits over people, and not pay a price at the ballot box. that's just the reality, katie, as you noting. we're looking at the trends, and they're not new. this is been going on since 2018. every election since then, we've seen since those generations. millennials and gen z consistently bought for gun violence prevention champions. >> quickly before i let you go, 1994 salvo up an's ban, then joe, biden not president, able to get it done. it was allowed to lapse under george bush in a ten-year run.

this is not a novel concept for congress, it's not a novel concept for america. do you think climate is prepared, that they haven't become as americans tragically numb to all these gun violence, and were able to upper embrace another assault opens ban? >> i think we absolutely are, katie, you know the sunset provision that allowed it to last after a decade was a almost a fluke? it was inserted at the last minute, when the senate was going to vote on that. and we saw, over that decade, a huge reduction in the number of mass shootings, involving those weapons. americans are desperate for this. and i do think the time is now, we have the president to help deliver. this >> chris brown, i appreciate you being here, an important topic. i know sometimes we talk about it too much but that's not possible because is too much at stake. i thank you for taking the time should be here. now we will be right back.

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