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>> good morning, i'm a live all, she saturday, the 26th. under the radar outcome, midterm elections, one that is extremely important, when the ongot for democracy. republicans are set to take control of the house of representatives in the next congress, one thing gop leadership out suggests, we should expect, is less funding for ukraine's defense of democracy. against russia's barbaric invasion. the funding that the chamber does improve, appears set to be conditional. now in the senate, democrats remain in control, an overwhelming support for both parties support america's back in for ukraine and there's a solid amount of senators on the ball on both aisles that believe the biden administration should be doing more with respect to ukraine. just this week, the bipartisan group of senators, the majority of whom are republican, senator letter to the defense secretary said they would express concern with reports of the u.s.

deciding against sending advanced drones to ukraine. who pledged around 19 billion dollars. russia's invasion started back in february. including next week, and it's cold in kyiv. it's called back in the war starting, and it's only getting colder. that's playing into russia's brutal strategy of trying to break the well of ukrainian people. recently, russia ramped up its attacks on civilians, and civilian infrastructure. very far from the front lines of battle, especially in the capital kyiv with a major target on power and electricity stations. they left millions of power all nine times and as one person in a uniquely cold -- terror in the ukrainian citizens. they are in fact terror attacks. the european parliament has designated russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, adding

that these deliberative attacks against russia and civilians constitute war crimes. a new report by the un commission for refugees for human rights, i'm sorry, not says more than 6500 documented civilian deaths. more than 10,000 more wounded, since russia invaded, and true civilian toll is likely significantly higher. yet another un report, documents widespread abuse of prisoners by russian forces, including, but not limited to, prolonged meetings, strangling, twisting, or breaking of joints and bones. attacked by dogs, taser-ing, sexual violence, used of stress positions, inserting burning cigarettes into nostrils, and hanging by limbs, for extended periods of time. this all comes as russia's to military backers of its war are also making moves and news. north korea, selling ammunition and arms to russia, continues

its increase provocation. conducting dozens of missile launches, while potentially preparing for a new nuclear test. gotta be the first one since 2017 and speaking of the mugshot estes, north korea leader kim drum own publicly debuted his daughter at a recent missile launch. it was known that kim has children but this was the first official confirmation of his offspring. and the first unveiling of his daughter both for the north korean population and for the world at large. as for russia's other major military backer, to u.s. officials and another official tell msnbc news help iran manufacture dive bombing self destructive drones. on russian soil. russia has been successful in utilizing these drones, that are made of on, since the summer. more than 400 of them have been totaled so far. the defense ministry says russia has nearly exhausted its

stockpile of the drones. notably, a significant number of the russian strikes on civilian infrastructure, they've been talking about. they're carried out using these iranian made drones. this creeping iran russia partnership comes with monumental anti government protests, in iran. which would initially indicted back in september 1:22-year-old mahsa amini died after being arrested by iran's morality police. for allegedly saying that they -- that she failed to cover her hair, the portis committed -- continued massive amidst crackdowns -- that's according to the human rights organization. as protests become more angry, and the iranian regime is becoming more hard lined. initially, there are six known instances of protesters being sentenced to death for the crimes of enmity against god, and corruption on earth this is

according to iranian state media. while an additional 21 people are at risk of the same fate, according to amnesty international, the protests have carried outside of our, on into policing ways. who world cup, country across the persian golf, members of the iranian national team did not participate in the singing of the country's national anthem, in what appears to be a silent protest. now, a popular former member of the team has been arrested, after speaking out against the regime. that's according to iranian media as well. all of this comes as over any -- iran treads to increase iranian. pulling the country closer to having weapons grade uranium and closer to potentially becoming a nuclear nation like russia and north korea whose nuclear arsenals seemingly allow them to float international laws and norms. there's a lot to unpack in the

international section joining me is -- msnbc's chief international security and diplomacy analyst. also with me is bobby, go to the editor and columnist of bloomberg opinion, former editor in chief of the hindostan times. thank you for joining us. bobby, you've written recently, iran is losing the public relations war. in iran and outside the protesting and criticizing iran in a way that has not been seen before. just some that would be good news, to others when you see a country cornered, as we watch with russia and ukraine, the bad stuff comes out. >> well, rob, oh, bad silva's been coming out in a constant stream for a long time. we don't feel it this far away from iran, but if u.s. qurans neighbors, they will tell you that they are constantly being undermined, or constant efforts by the running government, using proxies, drones, missiles, to attack targets in iran, iraq,

to create instability. the uae support rumble movement to yemen, keeping the political situation in lebanon. women often also unbalanced so robert. and the court, or it might tend to be more good. within the context of iranian politics côte d'ivoire. those who are privacy in front. this is especially aggressive for folks. it's always hard to know when you are dealing with people like that, whether you should be damned for doing something, or don't for not doing something. that is the challenge for the biden administration, for the, west for the wider world. my instinct would be better to

be damned for doing something, the protesters who support the democracy, robert aspirations for the people. >> this is an administration that wanted to do undo the damage that trumpet done by pulling out of the iran nuclear deal but iran has been a very weak. with the arming of russia with these drones, and the drones have been the most effective thing that they've used in this investigation of ukraine. >> they have, and news flash, unmanned vehicles are here to stay. you're gonna see them as very very important components. and women are going. but julia unmanned vehicles

from space, until, gents or links to get there with kyle got. and then they lead to service activities, frankly into the sea down to the bottom of the ocean, the guy -- russia and iran joining forces. frankly, you get. -- and then finally, ali, you can see this continuing air war, directed against the electric grid water, the power plants, potentially the nuclear sites. you, know there's another word that, tomorrow is, it's work arms, or get making the

argument that jacques and -- in russia you can't even say the. the toward a hard bond. but more importantly they are talking these fuel centers in lviv. ? in kyiv. and peace and places like that that are hundreds of miles from any battle line. to the admiral's point, there's a lot of people in the world to see these, our war crimes. these are terrorist. tax you're just charging the civilian population which are no country like ukraine without power is meaningful. >> i don't think there's a doubt about the stakes organizations and realtime documenting these were crimes. it is unquestionably a war crime with the specifically

targeting civilian targets, to create a sense of terror. and ukraine is done to listen 50% of its electricity generating capacity. festivals will be provisions to bow there talking hospitals, with the second wounded the largest of battle that was detectives got. and there are all these tactics of killing civilians in order to intimidate an entire population. and there's plenty of documentation there to, the question is what do you do what can you do with russia, a member of the security council, androids veto power.

so what if you collected all of those, does the world have the will, when the moment comes, to impose justice upon russia based on this flagrant violation. geneva convention, out the. window more, as the window. this is quick terrorism. what are we doing about it? >> bobby makes a good point. walker homes expert says if you can't arrest somebody, nothing can have them. but -- >> they go, there are republicans of the house who are saying that day that we are going to curtail some of the support that is going to ukraine. as the expression goes, that job probably won't hunt. you can see this for more people in america who believed that not only shut the level of support for ukraine continue possibly be increased. the only justice that may come is that russia may be defeated in this conflict.

>> yeah, let's stipulate, agreeing with everything you said, aly those, towards being far now. one is on the, ground and you are correct there on the march to russia, they're on the back but. but there is a second or, the war in the air, at the drums, the long range strike, but a blitz bombing of london in the 1940s. that won the war the russians are winning right now. up the game in terms of air defense. that means better longer range air defense missiles potentially aircraft, mig-29's from poland, f-16's from the u.s., the ukrainians can fly them, they've shown they can fly bravely. help them close the skies over ukraine. i think that is the quickest path to negotiation.

because in a sense, that's one of vladimir putin's last cards. is this terror bombing campaign. if we can shut this off, couple it with victories on the ground, we are on a path to negotiation. >> thanks for being with us this morning, we appreciate. former supreme allied commander of nato. bobby gauche is an editor and columnist at bloomberg opinion, former editor and chief of hindustan times. but the weekend in trump world, and get the former president still found time to not step halstead in oh with the holocaust supremacist and the individual formerly known as kanye wise. they're not playing in the world cup, at the national flag is becoming take a fixture in the tournament. it's a grassroots movement to bring awareness to palestinian struggles, in the biden administration may just have a given the movement a huge boost. a hug boost. doing with you. ok, i got it. (laughs) start medicare shopping today with walgreens

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watched international sporting event in the world. every four years, dozens of countries, hundreds of players, and tens of millions of fans assemble around the world at all hours of the day for competition, culture, and inevitably politics. if you are tuning in this year you might notice the national flag of the team that is not actually participating in the tournament. the palestinians. who are seizing on an opportunity that they don't often come back. qatar, the host company country of the world cup as a large palestinian community.

activists have launched several campaigns to raise global awareness during the world cup for palestinian plight. their goal ultimately is to make the palestinian flag at least as recognizable as the israeli flag. and to make the world care about their situation in the west bank ensure slim. so palestinians have been handing up lags, waving them in the stands, wearing palestinian apparel, and chanting palestinian songs. one palestinian told al jazeera, quote people from all of the world are here in qatar and when they see a stress like this, they come up to us and they ask us, where we are from. it gives us a chance to acquaint them with the situation in our homeland, to show the market culture and their hr history. they know about israel, but not about palestine. now the palestinians are determined to be seen and heard as if their players are the ones actually on the pitch, but the ultimate goal that the palestinians are defending is much higher stakes than a soccer match. it shouldn't fall on ordinary palestinians to mass support for the cause from the global community. the rest of the world has known

for decades what's happening there and should do its part. and this week saw a small step in that direction. the biden administration is appointing a new special representative for palestinian affairs. this is a big deal. the news was first reported by axios and it marks the first time that the u.s. has created a washington post position at the state department that is solely responsible for a palestinian affairs. the state department confirmed the news on its official website to inching how the amr 's title to special representative for palestinian affairs starting on november 22nd of 2022. amara served as deputy assistant secretary of state for palestinian affairs for the past two years. and while this is an important move, the context of the more important because for decades the u.s. consulate in jerusalem, the stone mansion on akron road, served as americans to facto at the c to the palestinians.

until, then president donald trump closed in 2019. it remained shuttered three years later. the former president reversed a long-standing american policy by recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital in 2017 and moving the u.s. embassy, which had been in tel aviv, to jerusalem. the control of jerusalem is contested by both israel and the palestinians. the u.s. consulate in jerusalem. remember there wasn't an embassy there before trump moved on from jerusalem. the consulate was an important symbolic and physical diplomatic tapestry knighted states and palestinians. but the former president felt it wasn't needed after he moved to the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. the reason closing the consulate was so problematic as because the u.s. consul general, the one of jerusalem, had a direct line to the state department. essentially it claimed the role of ambassador to the palestinians. merging the consulate and the embassy meant them all diplomatic communications went through the lens of one

american representative for both the israelis and palestinians. so when the consulate was closed, it was a major downgrade in diplomatic ties between america and the palestinian authority. according to israeli and palestinian national statistics, about 4.8 million palestinians lived in all of the land that is controlled by israel. that is israel's actual boundaries plus land than israel occupies on the east, in the west bank and his true slim. well israel will go out of its way to point out that those arabs who are citizens of israel have the same rights as jewish israelis which is a point that is highly debatable, all of the rest of the palestinians who are not israeli citizens, about 2.7 million of whom live and east russell on the west bank, are treated as second class citizens on the land of their birth. palestinians in most of the occupied west bank and east jerusalem do not have control over the most basic incredible aspects of their daily lives like water supply, electricity,

and for building permits. some don't even have the security of knowing that they will be able to continue to live on land that they legally rent or own. like israelis, palestinians have the right to exist but there are very few powerful global players willing to help them do that. the u.s. has often been very reluctant to do the right thing as it relates to palestinians. that is why the biden administration's decision to create a new official government post for palestinian affairs is progress. hopefully it will start to repair relations with the palestinians. relations that were injured by donald trump. but president biden did promise to reopen that u.s. consulate in jerusalem when he was running for president. to give the palestinian people and leadership their own unfettered line of communication directly to the american government. it has been two years. the doors that consulate remain shut. it is time for america to alter its approach to the palestinians and to israel so that all of the people who fight over that little bit of

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donald trump's term and. as of this week, it appears a u.s. court of appeals may be poised to end the special master review of the 11,000 government documents that were seized at mar-a-lago above summer, which would free up that investigation. on tuesday, the supreme court denied trump's request to block the release of his tax return, dealing a final blow to trump's now three-year effort to avoid a house committee requests to see the stacks of turns. according to the new york times, the justice department is now seeking to question the former vice president mike pence as a witness in connection with the doj's investigation into donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the times pence is open to considering the quest for the justice department, but the process could be very slow. pence has not yet been subpoenaed. it is also possible that trump would claim executive privilege to prevent or it limit pence's testimony. joining me now is the federal former prosecutor at and legal analyst cynthia --

. good to see. you you are someone who spent time in the justice department. let me first ask you about the special counsel appointment. there are a lot of people who have a sort of ptsd about robert mueller and what that did and you are outright hostile in critical of america garland's decision to do this as opposed to the yale turned to which is the justice department pushing forward its own charges and prosecuting the former president. your thoughts on that? >> well i think we need a decision-maker and merrick garland is a fine man and an honorable man. that he is fundamentally a federal judge and he sits on a mountaintop and ponders his name or something. i don't know but he hasn't been a decision-maker. and we needed decision-maker and it looks like this -- is a decision-maker and therefore i applaud. >> all right let's talk about the core being able to and the special master view. there are lot of people said it is fine. the special master's fine but it is just donald trump

continue to run out the clock. not a particularly controversial matter that he was appointed but it did slow things down in the investigation. now that ends. and you difference in what happens or what the outcome of the mar-a-lago investigation is? >> yeah. i think that it sounds like after reading the transcript of the hearing in the 11th circuit that they are going to get rid of the special master and they are going to slam this federal judge who put a wrinkle in the process that was totally unnecessary. and that will speed up the process and allow the government to really dive into those documents because remember, it is not only. when you look at this case to a prosecutor, it is not just does he have the documents, where they willfully maintained and did he not return when he was asked to. you also have to have sort of a global outlook on it like why did he do it? in order to do the prosecution, you kind of want to know. that isn't an ego thing as somebody leaks for the justice department or in any way to those documents make it in to the stream of his financial

considerations? is that why he ended up with these deals in the middle east? has chaired cushing the? documents who has touch them, who has seen them, who knows about them, who uses them. the sooner we get rid of the special master process where we complete it the sooner we can get to that point and we can move forward with the prosecution. >> we are going to talk about georgia lot in the show it in the weeks ahead because of the special election, or the runoff election in georgia. but in, fact the georgia investigation into donald trump's interference in the election also seems to be moving ahead quite a clip. the prosecutor there may be in a position at some point to file charges. tell me your take on that investigation and what that may lead to? >> well i think all of these investigations need to move quickly. just because the process of the presidential campaign is looming over them, what we don't want to the prosecutions to determine outcomes or affect outcomes in a presidential campaign. it does seem like the atlanta

prosecutor is getting ready to move, and as you, know she doesn't actually file charges. she filed a recommendation to the judge. so there are more hoops to go but it does seem like she is getting closer to making the final decision, making the recommendation. and the sooner, the better. >> what about the politics of it? what in your opinion is the distinction now that donald trump is a candidate or has declared himself a candidate for the presidency. does any of the calculus change, any of the investigations that were on their way to they have to be altered as a result of that? >> i think they. do i think it puts pressure on them to get done more quickly, just because you don't want it to affect primaries. the good news about it is apparently created the hook for merrick garland to say, now he is a candidate i need special counsel. so now it was good. but they really need, especially the mar-a-lago case which is going to be easier to put together that the january 6th case, just because of the concrete-ness of the evidence. these are our documents, we

have to fit the documents, you hit the documents, elated at the documents, you refused to return the documents and they were in your desk with your passport. that case is easier to make and so the sooner we get it done the better. the january six case is more difficult because, just because of the nature of the charges in the nature's of proving conspiracy. but with a living presidential campaign, every prosecutor is trained at the department of justice to do everything you cannot to affect the politics of the situation. and i think it is just sort of hanging as a cloud, a pressure point hanging over every prosecutor before trump. >> good morning to you, good to see. you thank you for joining us. we appreciate your. time sidney odyssey is a former prosecutor and nbc legal analyst. the early voting is underway in georgia efforts senate runoff election. both candidates are black men, coming up next we're gonna talk about the racist origin of runoff elections in this country. they were designed to keep

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race, one of elections in general have deeply racist origins and were designed to keep black candidates out of office. nbc news correspondent priscilla thompson takes into that fraud history. >> if you have heard mentioned georgia lately, chances are the next word in that sentence was runoff. >> one final senate contest remains in georgia. >> democrats of the potential to win one more seat. >> raphael warnock and herschel walker will be meeting in a runoff on december six. >> for more than 50 years, georgia has used runoff elections to decide races for members of the state legislature to who sits in the governor's mansion. but people really know why the runoffs stomach was established in the first place? >> i'm not sure really where comes from. >> no idea. >> we have to determine who the actual winner is, with a clear majority. >> but some experts say, that wasn't the original intent of the law. >> back to the civil war, blacks were a major part of the

southern electorate. once we construction in military occupation of the south and it, white settlers spent the rest of the 19th century squeezing blacks out of the electorate. >> white settlers delta county units section to get less populated but primarily right white rural parts of the state more political power. meanwhile, disenfranchising black voters. in 1962, the supreme court said the system violated the equal protection clause of the constitution. >> at that point, many southern states including georgia looked further devices and the runoff system was one of those devices. >> entered and mark river. gruver, a member georgia's house of representatives, fell out of power. and he blames, quote negro a block voting for his loss. according to a report by the u.s. department of the interior.

>> a focal sight ration estate, greer was determined to stop black georgians growing political power. quote, if you want to establish if i was racially prejudiced, i was. if you want to establish that some of my political activity was racially motivated, it was. quiver would say in a deposition years later. in 1963, one year after the supreme court struck down the counter unit system, gruver now back in office, proposed a new election system. the runoff. >> hoover explicitly talked about how even if the white votes were divided in the first election and a black bag the runoff, whites could come together as a majority to win in the runoff. >> in 1960, for the runoff system became law in georgia. >> no blacks had been elected to the senior offices in georgia, meaning governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state, ever. so apparently it worked.

>> former judge a public service commission david burgess is the first black candidate to face a statewide runoff in georgia. >> we are trying to recharge an reenergizing get out and encourage people to go back to the polls and vote again. >> in 2006, we are just beaten his opponents by more than 50,000 votes in the general election. but because no candidate received more than 50% of the vote share, the top two were forced into a runoff. >> they said david you won, you won by 70,000 votes. why are you getting a reelection for the same position? they were confused by. a people didn't just have an interest of them. >> versus ultimately lost the runoff by about 9000 votes, in a contest with about a tenth of the voter turnout. >> at the end of the day, in my mind if did that really reflect the will of the people or was it a result of some political missile and process? i don't think it was a fair

process but those were the rules of the game. >> in 1990, years before burgess's election, the department of justice sued to overturn georgia's runoffs system. jonathan, the assistant attorney general for civil rights said the system had a quote, demonstrably chilling effect on the ability of flex to become candidates for public office. calling the majority vote rule a quote, electoral steroid for white candidates. but the court didn't see it that way. >> what the federal courts that is at the justice department failed to offer sufficient proof and so they allowed runoffs to continue. >> not all runoff systems are rooted in racism. maine, for example, as a very small black population that it uses a ranked choice system that is effectively an instant runoff if no candidate reaches 50%. but if you look at the seven states that hold traditional runoff elections, if nobody

gets a majority, all of the states are in the soap. as for georgia, the states runoff system remains a glaring reminder of the systemic racism ingrained in the fabric of america, lingering. one of the values that we must hold dear. democracy. >> thank you priscilla thompson's for that import report. i kind of feel like i want to run the report several times in the show just to get those facts in everybody's heads about the origins of runoffs in this country. all right, coming op up next. the story of two dutch women who went hiking in the jungle panama never to be seen again. but it is what their disappearance has uncovered that is even more sinister. >>e sinister >>e sinister >>e lower the temp, the lower your bill. tide cleans great in cold and saves money? i am so in. save $150 when you turn to cold with tide. grandmom! walgreens find rx coverage is here to make medicare easy... even easier than those dances your grandkids love doing with you. ok, i got it.

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after saying in a panamanian town for two weeks, they travel to the popular tourist destination of bull cat near the border with costa rica. then the women disappeared. according to police, premiers and food were last seen on april the 1st 2014 when they allegedly asked an innkeeper for hiking directions. after, that nothing. a massive search turned up no trace of the women. this mystery as the basis of a new podcast called lost in panama. former msnbc correspondent and peabody award-winning journalist, mary on a ten ceo, my former colleague along with the investigator jeremy craig with the daily beast, retraced the last steps of these two women in an attempt to find out what really happened in their final days. but in reinvestigating these deaths eight years later, they discovered that the tragedy ran much deeper and broader than anyone ever thought. >> a massive search turned up no trace of the missing women. months later, their backpack

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the story about two dutch women who might within a panama in 2014. their disappearance revealed more than 15 cases of women missing women and girls in the area. it's the subject of a new hit podcast colossal panama. joining me now is the host of that podcast, my old friend mariana attend ceo. she's a former embryonic in the msnbc contributor and peabody award winner. good to see you old friends. many of our viewers remember mariana and i covered her case for a long. time the story happened in 2014. msnbc did report on it. and that is sort of went away. it was done. why did you go back to it? >> when i heard about the story i just couldn't turn away. first of all, it is a classic

tale of young girl gets lost in the woods. and the rumor mill was saying everything from, they were eaten by wild animals to, both of them fell off a cliff. i personally, as a 23 year old in venezuela where i am from, got assaulted on a hike. these two girls went missing on a hike. so i know what it was like to be a woman alone in the woods assaulted by a man in that part of the world and there was something that just drew me to that story where i said i have to go find out what happened to them. and as a journalist, getting on the ground and getting close to uncovering the truth, also pushing the authorities are trying to reopen this case, with something incredibly gratifying for me. >> when you say pushing the authorities, sometimes just the presence of a journalist covering their story gets to more. because most people just assume, some of the stories that are on death and nobody will ever bother. >> and i just didn't make any sense. how can two of them vanished completely? so if you body remains were found. and then a backpack was found with all of these delicate

electronics. things just didn't make sense. and as you and i have talked about, when that happens as a journalist there is nothing like boots on the ground. there is nothing like getting to the scene and seeing it for yourself and talking to people. and as you say, the presence of a journalist, especially an international journalist in this case, exerts the right kind of pressure. >> so i don't want to give away the will podcast people can watch it, but the thing that you uncovered. did you know this going into it? that there were dozens of other women who have disappeared for whom there was no cover? >> i honestly had no idea. oh the for 50 cases of local missing women and girls in this 40-mile panama corridors. we are talking about and and not an area in el salvador, not andrés, not known for its massive violence. this is a place of ex pats interests. so being able to shed light on that, talking about the case of a woman like stephanie rodriguez who, not only was killed when we were conducting this investigation, her body was left in a dumpster alley. i interviewed her husband to, he was so afraid to speak up. we had to interview him in a

car in a parking garage as he was clutching onto her photograph. that is how scared people are locally to talk about cases of femicide. >> so here is the distinction. it is something that we often talk about as missing white woman syndrome. these locals don't get any coverage. they were mostly women of color. >> absolutely. women like stephanie rodriguez up the world, don't get the media attention. and the fact that you are allowing me to talk about them on your show is amazing. one in three women in latin america in the caribbean will experience some sort of gender based violence. >> one in three? >> in their lifetime, just for being when. and i think in this case, one of the most shocking things for me as well, in the kramers food case was the fact that these women were dismissed as victims in the beginning because these were sources telling me, oh they are probably out partying. they woke up in some boys house. so precious time was lost in the search. the initial 48 hours which, as you know is critical because they were women. and you ask people involved in the search, if they had been men would have been the same? and they are like, absolutely

not. >> you mentioned the term femicide. it is not actually a term with which americans are familiar as a crime because it is not an enumerated crime in many places in the united states. tell me about that. because in latin america, and other parts of the world including the middle east, this is a very prominent way that women are attacked or killed. >> absolutely. here in the united states, maybe there is some really laid it pulled a homicide. there is not that additional kind of tear because it is based on the fact that they were women. in latin america, this is sometimes been called the silent pandemic because of how many women it does affect. i am honored that i will be going to washington d.c. with members of the administration and authorities of central america based on this investigation, lost to panama, to talk about this issue. and how does that affect women in the united states. they are considered as victims, they are dismissed, there's additional violence. it is almost like a hate crime but the.

>> we have the same with hate crimes the united states. we tend to be resistant to call them what they are. we like to just think it is bad people doing things to good people. there is an element of this that in latin america they are starting to realize is specific. >> and it up and realizing for a long time now, especially in countries like mexico. we are seeing the case of the american shangri-la robinson now prosecutors are searching for that potential person who assaulted her on charges of tampa side because unfortunately, that is the other thing. it affects women of color so much more than white women. >> thank you for doing. this we appreciate that you are covering this with a specific angle. we will continue this conversation. mariana, good to see you as always. >> mariana is my colleague my former colleague at msnbc, more portly she is the host of the new podcast, lost in panama. check it out on subscriber you get your podcasts. new episodes drop every monday. >> up next, we will head to georgia early voting in the senate runoff is underway despite best efforts by republicans to prevent. it another hour of velshi begins right now. begins right now

and good morning to you. it is saturday november 26th, i am ali velshi. election day is behind us but midterms aren't entirely over just yet. we know that come january, congress is going to be split. democrats have retained control of the senate, republicans will take control of the house. but the final makeup of both chambers is still unsettled with a few races yet to be called. result still trickling in. alaska for instance it will amend a rank choice voting system for the first time in a general election. there is also taking a little longer to tabulate, but a few days ago, msnbc news projected that republican senator lisa murkowski has won reelection. murkowski was one of only seven republican senators who voted to impeach donald trump following the january 6th insurrection last year. the ranked choice system meant that murkowski was up against a fellow republican, kelly

tshibaka, who was endorsed by