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lot of attention, not only because it was one of the costliest races of this year's midterms, because of the tightness of the race between the reference, who inherited the pulpit, and martin luther king junior church, and the trump endorsed former college why won't the kill of empire? do you know who i am? i never knew that. i don't to be of empire. i want to be aware. wolf you just stand there looking good and school and i'm thinking, oh, you better get down to that house. get out of the house! >> both campaigns were pulling out all the stops ahead of the december 6th runoff. even georgia governor, brian kemp, is ramping up his support for walker, and former president obama will campaign for her -- will people come back out to the polls? joining me now is the founder of the black voters in our fund, and the founder of the american dreams pack and the 2020 former candidate.

let's start with you, cliff. control of the senate is no longer at stake, right? we know this. in turn, you could say it's a tougher challenge to motivate voters to get out and vote. how significant is it that early voting is happening ants as actually allowed to happen today? >> hey, good morning. thanks for your question. we need to be clear that control is still an issue, because there's a big difference of controls of 50 votes versus control 51 votes, and among other things, that means that having the power on committees, not being able to get judges, for example, cleared faster, which is a major issue. there's a huge difference between 51 and 50. more importantly, the people of georgia deserve somebody to represent them who actually can represent them, right? that can actually deal with policy and speak about things other than whether or not they want to be a very fire or a werewolf. the early vote is going to be absolutely critical. we saw massive turnout in early vote, not as much on election day. there's a lot of reasons for that, including voter suppression, but this is what we have to keep in mind. two things, one, we would not

even be in a runoff right now if georgia was like other states. georgia's runoff elections themselves are part of a history going back to jim crow and segregation, but more importantly, that history was made worse last year when they changed the runoff election policies. they were mad because of, the republicans were mad at what happened in the runoff election two years ago, so they shortened the period. they made it impossible to register new voters. they decrease the number of early votes days, and as you said, they try to even get rid of saturday early voting even being willing to go to court not once, not twice, but three times in order to do it. and herschel walker has said nothing in the fence of the voters of georgia. >> an important point. access to voting is critical, and sarah, i want to bring you in. notably, the georgia supreme court also reinstated the states six-week abortion ban in the state. are we like you did see that impact decision and influence the outcome of this race as we did in other races the cycle? >> absolutely. this puts abortion rights squarely on the ballot in

georgia in this runoff election. and that's reverend warnock has said time and time again, he says he believes the doctor's office is too small for a woman, a provider, her partner, her got of she has won, and the u.s. government. so, we are going to see this energized, i, think that democratic base again, but more importantly, as cliff said, you're going to see georgians turn out and say we want to kind of representation, that understands the issues that will speak up for every community in this state. and herschel walker has told us time and again he is not that guy. he is not been able to be honest with the people of our state on any issue, whether it's the number of kids he has or the size of the businesses he's started, and as you mentioned, it's not just that he will have limited saturday voting and early voting because of a speed 202, that voter suppression law that five georgia republicans, they're actually trying to call off saturday voting in the state because of a confederate holiday celebrating the birthday of robert e. lee.

even though the deputy secretary of state gabe sterling said after that decision was unnaturally made, the secretary of state's office of course thought there would be saturday voting in the early vote period. it simply wasn't out of their hands. as soon as the judge that approved to saturday early voting, the secretary of state turned around and sued to have that saturday votes canceled. so we know this is not a republican party on the side of democracy and voting rights. this is an anti-democracy republican party. and i see them time and time again, i think, georgia voters are smarter than that. they're going to show up. nobody wants herschel walker, werewolf or vampire, representing as the reverend said, our bomb list. >> he said walker is not that guy. this has been the focal point of the country, as it often is, but for walker specifically, as a candidate, he has faced a slew of controversial news stories or moments. here's the latest. >> first of all, this election is more on her walker.

it's about the people. >> so sarah, i wonder what impact you think statements like moments like that will have on walker. >> i think honestly it's one of the least offensive statements he's made. he's talked about having a nationwide ban on abortion and contrary to wanting an early vote, he has said he doesn't understand why we need early voting. he doesn't understand why we have a quote unquote whole week of it. again, he is reflective of today's republican party. but you know that clip shows us why herschel walker had a 4:20 events in the weeks right after a runoff was announced. he never took questions from anyone other than right-wing media during those entire 20 events. now, we know why. he's a loose cannon. he's a risk to the gop here in georgia and nationwide. there were offense where ted cruz took questions with herschel walker, who stood mute next to him. this is not like i capable of doing the job. he is not worthy of sitting in the u.s. senate, and i believe

georgia voters will show up on -- on math to make sure he doesn't get that. >> cliff, i wonder what your take is on walker and the way the gop has been surrounding him in, a way. >> i think that image you just showed literally of having two senators side by side, literally propping him up, right? almost like a puppet, like a ventriloquist puppet. i think it's really symbolic of the situation we're in. and black voters recognize. this what we recognize that they selected herschel walker, particularly because they felt like they will put any blackface into this race to run against senator warnock, who is obviously black. and black voters see this as insulting when they see somebody who is being propped up like this, who doesn't understand the issues, who has all kinds of character flaws, who by no objective measure should be the one of the 100 people in the u.s. senate deciding policy. the way he gets propped up by these republican party members is actually insulting by -- two black voters, and as one

commentator and activists said, white men have been telling herschel walker what to do ever since he was 16, and this is no different. we don't need that in the state of georgia. >> and we talked a lot about his words. let's now talk about his taxes, right? sarah, i know this reporting from the new york times, and it states walker received a tax break because of his primary residence, which is in texas. this, somehow, does not preclude him from running in georgia. it's not about strategy with voters? >> absolutely. it's embarrassing for the georgia republicans that they had to go out of state to recruit a candidate they thought could take on senator warnock, and in addition to that, this is the best they could do. a guy who took his homestead exemption. that's the tax exemption you take for your primary state of residence. he took his homestead exemption in texas, and it's not the first scandal we've seen about his residency. remember, there are upping questions about his wife voting record. whether she should have voted in georgia or texas.

this is a candidate that carpet bagged into georgia because they needed somebody to stand against one of the most bipartisan and most effective senators, senator reverend warnock. honestly, i don't think georgia voters are going to be fooled by this. time and time again, the senator has delivered for our state. time and again, herschel walker has shown us he's not ready. this is not a tough contest. he should go back to texas and maybe one day he will have a chance to run for office there. but he is certainly not worthy of representing the people in georgia. >> time will tell on that. one, cliff, many people have been stepping into this race. president obama announced he will see capping with senator warnock on december 1st. do you think that will mobilize the vote? what about any high-ranking republicans coming to georgia? are we seeing any comparable comparison? >> well, i think definitely, it certainly went president obama or michele comes, for that matter, it doesn't hurt. i think we saw even in some of the other states, some

candidates did well when they had those kinds of visits, or visit even from the vice president. i think that will help. on the other side,, though in terms of high-profile people coming in for herschel walker, look. a couple of years ago, our president, then trump, the twice impeached former president, came three or four times along with vice president pence, and we see how well that went, right? especially right now, i think it's important. as the former president who was hosting a known white supremacists, neo-not see, racist, sexist, as he is hosting this type of people, what we're seeing is that this is the type of person who put herschel walker up to running. i almost wish you would come to georgia, because the more he comes, the more it helps us be able to mobilize our base and let us see there is a clear difference between somebody like senator warnock, who is consistently on the side of the people, and somebody like herschel walker, who is literally been put up to run by

a disgraced racist former president who hosts white nationalists and white supremacists and neo-nazis. there's a clear choice, i believe, at the end of the day that all voters in georgia, particularly black voters, are going to make the right choice. >> really important insights on this race, on early voting,. cliff all right, and sarah -- thank you so much. and still to come, cases of covid, the flu, as rsv are surging. have to stay healthy in what experts are calling a tripledemic. i, to communities healing from communities that took the life of their loved ones. how they are healing, that. ey are healing, that

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i'm sinclair san juan. two deadly mass shootings this week are adding to a grim death toll across america. according to the gun violence archive, for the third year, the u.s. has entered over 600 mass shootings. chesapeake, virginia, police say a walmart supervisor who shot and killed six coworkers

tuesday, left behind a note in his phone accusing his coworkers of harassment. that shooting came just 72 hours after a gunman opened fire at an lgbtq plus club in colorado, killing five people and injuring at least 19. warrant barrett has more on how the community in colorado springs is pulling together. >> good morning, it's in play. it's been a week since the shooting here at club q in colorado springs. police just yesterday listing the perimeter around the area, allowing people there last weekend to come back in and collect the property. as police continue their investigation. but as you could see behind me, a memorial has been growing for days, moved from out on the street in front of club q, another vigil held here last night as community members continue to mourn and pay their respects for both the victims and the lost sense of security here at club q for the lgbtq community. i could spend a week talking with community members about what they are looking for in terms of healing. and what they want people to know about their community.

i met why it can't. he was the boyfriend of one of the victims. daniel was a bartender here. he was friends with many other people inside. he said kelly loving, the trans woman who lost her life, took a bullet for. him and he made sure to note, to explain how this queer community here really protects each other, and even through all his pain and his tears, he made sure to point out how thankful he is this holiday season. >> we're family. we were always family, but we're a family through this horrible circumstance. i'm so thankful, i'm so thankful for rich. for joseph. for that trans woman who stepped on his head. for that trans women who saved me, for kelly, who saved me. i'm so thankful. i'm so thankful! for so many things, but i'm so

thankful to have known him. and to have been loved by him. >> why it, referring to his boyfriend, daniel, there he described at an absolute light, a public. why it's wants to get those palms published as well as to continuing to tell the stories of the victims to make sure their legacies live on. now, as for the suspect, the alleged shooter that came in and opened fire here last weekend, they remain in jail, being held without bond. remember, they are held, arrested on suspicion of those murder charges, as well as potential hate crime charges. police say as the investigation continues, they will be filing more formal charges. we are still waiting to hear whether the department of justice will be filing any federal charges. but last saw the suspect via video on wednesday during and advisory hearing. the defense attorneys for the suspect filing a motion just before that hearing, identifying the suspect as someone who wishes to identify as non binary, using they them pronouns. there's some contention in the community about whether or not that is accurate. we had spoken to a neighbor who

had said that the suspect had never told him that that is what he wanted to refer to himself as. and there's some speculation about what that could mean, especially as police were pursuing those hate crime charges. they said, if there's any evidence of a hate crime, they intends to pursue it to its fullest extent to make sure people know that is not tolerated here in colorado springs. the next court appearance for the suspect is on december six, but we expect to hear an update on the investigation from police on monday. sinclair? >> really powerful reporting, thank you for that report. the shooting in colorado springs happened on the eve of transgender day of remembrance. it's a day dedicated to those who lost their lives because of anti-trans violence. it also follows the rise of anti lgbtq rhetoric and legislation. a new glaad poll shows 72% of transgender people and 48% of the lgbtq community overall say the current political environment makes them fear for their personal safety. joining me now to talk about

this is nadine bridges, executive director of one colorado. thank you so much for being with us to talk about this, especially as your city's going through this tragedy. this shooting at colorado springs happens at club q, and lgbtq club. i want us to take a look at a recent glad report. it shows the majority of transgender people feel unsafe due to this political climate. as i said earlier, in the report, it also shows 120 attacks and 47 states have been against dragged events and performers. so, what does that say to you about the current political atmosphere of the country? >> yeah, i think we know there has been pieces of anti lgbtq legislation that was introduced across the country in the state of colorado. the numerous conservative politicians have used anti lgbtq rhetoric and

anti-transgender rhetoric, attacks on drag queens, schools who made it an intentional attack on particular transgender and non-binary youth. when that happens, and there is no critical thought education, people use this for their own attacks. their own index, their own death. this is what happens. >> this is what happened, and it's really awful. you referenced conservative lawmakers, notably colorado gop representative warren boebert, tweeted back in july, that's biden's assistant secretary for health, rachel levine, and it was about transgender youth. the assistant, excuse me, you can see that tweet on your screen. boebert has been called out pryor for anti lgbtq rhetoric. she did still acknowledge recently the victims and families, many of whom are lgbtq, are in her prayers.

but how does that hit you and sit with you? i wonder with the community at large? >> yeah, i mean, you don't get to set a pathway for violence and turn around and put us in your thoughts and prayers. that is not how it works. i just want to point out that we have folks on the state board of education that if you use terms like -- are saying parents who support transgender youth our abusers. you know? and blocking -- we know across the nation there are folks who intentionally try to block affirmative gender care, which is life-saving. she doesn't get to put us in her thoughts and prayers, as far as i'm concerned. she needs to look deep inside of herself and be accountable to the harm that's been caused. >> and really, what we're talking about is rhetoric. i'm mindful that nearly 300 anti lgbtq bills have been introduced just this year.

do you believe that rhetoric is a factor in the attacks we continue to see against the lgbtq+ community? >> yes. i think this rhetoric has been around for quite awhile, but we made great strides in the last few, ten, 15 years, and it seems that in this last five years, there has been an intentional attack specifically on our transgender, non-binary, gender expansive community. people need to ask themselves, why? why are they using young transgender youth, nonbinary youth, for their political gain? this is not what they're supposed to be out here doing. they are supposed to be serving the communities. they should be focused on economics. they should be focused on housing. they should be focused on serving our public health institutions. so we can thrive in this country, not attacking our most vulnerable populations. >> it's weird to talk about guns, because those are at the center of a lot of these attacks that you are talking about.

the shooter in colorado springs wore an ar-15 style rifle and a handgun. president biden recently spoke about his hope to pass a ban on assault weapons before the end of the year. first, let's take a listen. >> the idea we still allow semiautomatic weapons to be purchased is sick. it's a! it has no, no social values. zero. none! not a single solitary rationale for, except the profitability of the gun manufacturers. >> can you do something about gun laws? >> i will try. >> what will you try to do? >> i'm going to try to get rid of assault weapons. >> briefly, nadine, do you think his administration has done enough to address these shootings? >> i don't think any administration has done enough. we've seen this time and time again in our communities, they are being harmed anywhere from uvalde to charleston. now, here. no one should have access to

military style weapons that kill people within seconds. it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. we need to, again, take a deep look at our nation. what are we here? for democracy is not about killing 40 people in a matter of minutes. we have to do better. i'm exhausted by this. i think our communities, our nation, exhausted by this. >> yeah. we're all exhausted. i hope you stay well and take care of yourself during this difficult time. nadine bridges, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, cases of covid-19, the flu, and rsv are surging and overwhelming hospitals and what many are calling a tripledemic. we will talk about how you can protect yourself, next. urself, next just stop. go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette.

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with the flu, you may have general life, so you may fuel body aches, malaise, fatigue, you may also have a little bit of diarrhea as well. and then our s v often, when it impacts infants or small children, they can have difficulty breathing. so, if there wheezing, it sounds like they have asthma type symptoms. again, there's a lot of overlap and if you are concerned at all, definitely talk to your health care professional. >> and how do they differ in terms of vaccine availability as well? >> that is very, very important. unfortunately, we do not have a vaccine yet for rsv. there is some critical trials going on. they are showing great promise, but they are also two pretty effective vaccines against covid and the flu. so, i would recommend you look at what we're seeing, peace every high rates of flu, the highest in a very long time. we are seeing covid cases rise. if people are not fully

vaccinated and haven't got their flu shot or covid, go and get those, because those are showing great ad effective c against disease, hospitalization, and death. also, the flu shot is working quite well. the season as well. >> and dr. blackstock, of course, we are also experiencing and a mock sicilian shortage? i've reported on this prior. one pharmacist only he typically catch an unlimited supply of amok sicilian, but they, he is only given three shipments at a time. this tells me that's a big deal. so, what exactly is a mock sicilian so important? >> right. i think people need to understand, again, there are still supply chain issues and we know that there are actually a few manufacturers that are producing some of the most used medications that we take every day. and so tylenol and amoxicillin, those are two there are shortages off right now. they are important because a mock sicilian is used against infection such as sore throats and -- which we see this type of year

very, very frequently. tylenol is a fever controller. it's what we give our children. we take it ourselves who are having fever or pain. these are medications that we take very, very often there are much needed, but again, they are in scarce supply. again, consulting your health care professionals about when it's indicated for you to be taking these medications is really necessary at this time. >> and of course, these don't get everyone the same, right? especially when i think about the littlest among us, children. how can rsv in particular be dangerous to children? i know you are not just a doctor, but also a mom. you've had your own personal experience with this. talk to us about it. >> yeah, so i always say, especially with our as we, we know in children, especially under six months, they are particularly prone to getting severe cases of rsv that may require them to be hospitalized. i had my own experience with my younger child. he was born healthy, but at three weeks old, he woke up at night for me to feed him, and i

noticed he was breathing very, very rapidly. his little belly was going up and down. in my gut instinct, not just as a physician but as a doctor, i said, this is not right. he doesn't look like he's looked for the last three weeks. i need to take into the er. he ended up in the icu for five days. that was very, very scary. i know a lot of other parents are experiencing that right now. i always tell parents trust your gut instinct. you don't need to be a doctor to know what's normal or abnormal for your child. if your child is breathing quickly, has a fever that you can't control, is not eating, or urinating as usual, definitely calling your health care professional or take them to the er to get checked out. fortunately, most babies will do well with rsv. again, this season, it's a pretty rough one. trust your instincts to all the parents out there. >> absolutely. i'm hoping your son is okay now, yeah? >> oh, my goodness. he is! he is going to be six years old this week. he is full of energy. he is on our --

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essamuah, and it's small business saturday. shoppers are back after black friday's big sales. small stores hoping for a big turnout after two years of pandemic financial losses. but inflation looms as high prices for gas and groceries hit household budgets ahead of the holidays. even though 60% of americans are currently living paycheck to paycheck, a new cnbc survey reveals a majority of americans expect to spend the same or more this year. nbc's brian chung joins me from ridgewood, new jersey, to talk about this. hello brian,. i can see but looks like a lot of activity behind. you so, how are small businesses trying to bring in shoppers today? >> yes, zinhle, good morning

and welcome to ridgewood. small business saturday is getting started. the mornings just getting beginning, but you can see people having a bagel, fanatics in northern new jersey. small business saturday really important, especially when you consider this economic environment. inflation is the big story, and the backdrop of what we're seeing right now with prices this year 7.7% more expensive than it was at this time last year. that is crunching both people hoping to go out and spend, but also, the businesses that have to pay more to operate their business on a day-to-day basis for smaller companies. that's even more perilous, when you consider they don't have the scale like the large retailers do to absorb some of those costs. so really interesting to see how people are coming out and supporting small business. you can see behind me, there's actually some shots that have find outside that say, come and shop and support these small businesses. hopefully, not just on this small business saturday, but across the year is also. >> absolutely. shopping local is critical. something i wonder about a lot, brian, is should shoppers look at the discounts or the prices before buying?

>> really important there. you might see some signs out here on black friday and on cyber monday that say 20, 30, 40%, off 50% off in some cases, but of, course is percentage off of what starting price. again, the starting price that we're referencing right now are prices that are much higher than they were this time of year ago. so, as you're going out there and shopping, make sure you look at the final price tag, see if there are additional markdowns when you get to the cash register. if you're shopping in person. but if you're online, remember, there's also texas and then shipping costs. even if you do buy something online, remember that returns can be costly as well. if you try to return something, double check the policy. you might have to pay a fee to send it back to the warehouse. >> and bryant, of course, the small business saturday's coming in the midst of the pandemic. how are small businesses rebounding from pandemic losses? are there still pandemic loans available? >> yeah. the paycheck protection program is something that is largely over.

for that region, a lot of the small businesses are effectively on their over the holiday season in 2022. it's interesting, i was chatting with a small bagel shop out here in ridgewood, and the owner was telling me that a cost for him have gone up remarkably, actually. among the things that are the most expensive in 2022, things like butter and flour and eggs, the things you need to make bagels,, again can't emphasize this enough, so important for new jersey, right? and that has increased the pressure for these companies and businesses. they're hoping to get around that by keeping their prices low to keep the loyal customers in the area coming back. and important statistic for you, about two thirds of every dollar spent in a local area like this ends up staying in the local economy, so they're hoping people wanting to support small businesses are aware of that fact, aware of what it does for the community, and a big reason why you're seeing people come out here and supporting on this saturday. >> absolutely. support is key. hope you enjoy a bagel today. thank you, brian shunk. >> we'll do. >> and later, world cup mania. we'll go live to qatar for the latest on team usa and who

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essamuah, and we're actually delivering this broadcast from you from washington, d.c., the traditional lands of the -- native tribe. there are many many tribes are the country, and oklahoma, those skokie nation have a long history and claim to be the fourth largest native american tribes in the united states. but in a lawsuit, to black creek indians or just lodging discrimination by the tribe, saying they should be granted citizenship. the recent state all the way back to the 1886 treaty between the muscogee nation and the united states, which guarantees formerly enslaved people all the rights of privileges of tribal membership. joining me is tomorrow simmons,

who is a -- working to restore or obtain their citizenship from the muscogee creek nation. it's good to see you. i understand -- >> good morning. >> good morning. i understand this case has a personal connection for you, as you are a black creek indian. can you tell us about this law suit, and what it's about, and what it means to you? >> absolutely. this is a very, very personal case, because my family came to oklahoma on the trail of tears in the 1830s. by ancestors, by four time great-grandfather, cal thomas, one of five individuals who negotiated and signed the treaty of 1866 that outlawed enslavement and also guarantee the rights of creeks, of african descent, despite if you were enslaved or not. for this to be taken from my family and for the tens of thousands of black creeks throughout this nation it's something that has impacted families. despite of families, and it's devastated families. during the pandemic, the creek nation received funds and medications for shots, and

black creeks were discriminated and were not allowed to receive them. they were dying or other creeks are actually receiving those shots. cast of $45, 000, health care benefits, education benefits, and most importantly, denying us and stripping us of who we are, our birthright, our culture, and our history. >> and what exactly were the reasons the tribe gave for the denial of citizenship? >> very specific anti black discrimination. we have documents from the 1979 constitution that was voted on to actually strip our citizenship. it specifically says, we no longer wanted to have creek friedman or free blacks a part of our nation. this is in writing by the chief at the time. ever since 1979, they have utilized this particular discriminatory practice in tremendous opposition or against the treaty of 1866, article two, which specifically states creeks of african descent will have poor citizenship, rights, and benefits.

>> it's powerful to hear you talk about this, especially as you described your rich ancestral history. i imagine many of the plaintiffs share that. so, what benefits what these plaintiffs enjoy if they were granted that citizenship? >> number one, it would vindicate the rights of their fathers and their mothers and their grandmothers. we were creek citizens for hundreds of years, and then it was tripped from us in 1979. people like my grandmother, who died just two years ago at 87 years old, she spoke creek. she grew up on creek lands, increased reservations lands, and for that to be taken away is such a hole in our family, our psyche, and their history. when you talk about the particular benefits of being a member or a citizen of a native american tribes, you're talking about health care. you're talking about educational benefits. housing. scholarship. the ability to have access to life saving resources, and you know for black families throughout this country, that is something we have less access to, and for the creek

nation to disenfranchise their own brothers and sisters based upon how we look, it is so sad. it's so hurtful. but we're so excited about this case. we think the law will prevail, because the law and the facts are on our side. >> and demario, i'm mindful we're talking that to communities of color, right? the muscogee nation as well as the black community and enslaved, formerly enslaved people. we want to use the best case in the area for the situation, but how long has this fight been going on? it's not new. >> now, it's not new. we started with 1866 treaty. you have the confederate creeks, those who align themselves with more european values, we will even enslavement. they started trying to fight against our rights from that time. i do want to be very clear that everyone on the creek friedman role or the black creeks, they were not all enslaved. some were just -- when they got here -- but they love to salt into this creek freedmen, if it's just a badge of slavery. that's been going on since

1866. specifically, since 1979, the constitution has barred black creeks. i personally have been working on this case for almost 25 years. i actually had a trial in 2005 that i won at that time. the creek nation supreme court overturned that victory in 2007. we've waited 17 years to get back to this point. the nation is actually aware of how the anti-black discrimination impacts black people in the creek nation. the united states, and throughout this. world i feel really good about our chances to be successful on december 1st. >> and tomorrow, is this a unique fight we are seeing that you are working on? are there other similar cases around the country? >> there are similar cases around the country. similar cases here in oklahoma. the cherokee, black cherokee's had to go through this fight. they were successful in 2017. the black seminal indians also gone through this fight. they've had some success they, are actual citizens of the nation now. but they are treated as second class sediments. you have the black choctaws and

chickasaws, who are also fighting this fight, trying to get what's right, really deserved and get back into the nations. their ancestors, who are parts of and actually built up -- we've got to be very clear about this. if it were not for the black members of those five so called tribes and oklahoma, the seminal, cherokee, chalked off, creek, and chickasaw, the tribes, those nations will not be here today. and for these people to be disenfranchised, it is a travesty. for the creek nation is the one i've been working on the longest, but after we have this victory, we will work with our brothers and sisters in the chickasaw emma choctaws nations, because they deserve justice also. >> important work. damario solomon-simmons, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. we do have some sad news to bring you. oscar winning singer, actress, and producer irene kara has died. her publicist said she passed away in her florida home, but the cause of death is unknown at this time. irene cara what's best known for her socks in the movies fame and flash dance. she also appeared in films such as d.c. cabin city heat, and

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essamuah. when it comes to the legal cases surrounding donald trump and his team, admittedly, there are so many it can be hard to keep track. this time, the focus is on his former vice president, mike pence. according to reporting by the new york times, the justice department is seeking to interview pence as a witness in connection with its criminal investigation into the former presidents efforts to overturn the 2020 election. in another vein, the january six house committee is winding down its work. but according to the washington post, some staffers are upset at committee vice chair, liz cheney, for focusing the committee's final report too much on trump. joining me now to talk about

this is charlie savage, msnbc contributor and pulitzer prize-winning journalist for the new york times. the author of power works, the relentless rise of presidential authority and secrecy. also joining us this barbara mcquade, legal analyst. thank you both for being here with me. let's start with you,. charlie what insight the doj hoping pence can provide? >> well, pence talked trump directly about such things as trump's attempt to pressure pence into violating his constitutional duty, as pence and his lawyers saw it, when it came to counting electoral college mom generally six. we know a lot of what pence has to say about that's because he already put it in his book, but that's not in the form of walked in as evidence for a potential indictment or some other charge. >> charlie, it looks like you cut off. we will get you back. barbara, i want to bring you in

here, what are your thoughts on? this what executive privilege would potentially come into play? >> no doubt it is absolutely essential the justice department speak to mike pence. he is what is referred to as a precipitate witness. he had firsthand interaction with donald trump about this plot to throw out votes to undermine the election. so, his testimony is essential. even if it's not helpful for the prosecution, the government must know what he will say, so they have to lock him in to whatever is his view of the facts so they can proceed accordingly and follow the evidence where it lives. this idea of executive privilege is really very much a red herring. the supreme court decided in the watergate era and nixon case had executive privilege is a qualified privilege. that means it can be trumped by overriding government interests, and the court has held more recently that executive privilege could not block the national archives from producing white house documents

to the january six committee. and so those things in mind, i say doj will prevail in any battle over executive privilege. they want this testimony, and i think they will get this testimony. >> time will tell. charlie, i want to bring you back in. here you are just telling us about why the doj wanted to speak with trump. we also learned the supreme court cleared the way for a house committee to obtain former president trump's tax returns. so, what can we tell us about that? >> i apologize for whatever that technical glitch was. trump had a bad week heading into thanksgiving. he lost that supreme court case. he has been fighting it for almost four years to prevent the house ways and means committee from getting his hidden tax returns. remember, he broke with modern precedent as a candidate and sitting president by refusing to make public basic details about his finances. when democrats took over the house in 2019, they began trying to invoke a law that clearly gave the chairman of

that committee the right to see those returns and to publish them into a congressional record, if he chooses to do so. and for four years, trump has used the slow pace of litigation to try to run out the clock. he almost succeeded, but then of course, house republicans, when i take over in january. they would've drop that request. the supreme court decided not to get involved, and that means in the next few days, probably, the treasury department will hands of those tax returns to the committee we'll still under lame duck democratic control. that committee will have to decide whether or not to make them public. of course, we know more about trump's finances through leaks and through other means then we did in 2016. still, it's an important measure of financial accountability for a sitting president. >> financial accountability. we've been talking about the tax returns for so long. people may forget how useful they are in an investigation. barbara, how useful are they? >> tax records are the keys to the kingdom. tax records show sources of

income. they show expenditures. they show affiliations. prosecutors used tax records routinely in any kind of financial cases. it's often one of the first things that are obtained to provide that money trail to figure out what's happening in and investigation. although the committee here wants these documents to determine whether there needs to be reforms to ethics laws requiring presidential disclosure, these documents could also provide useful information if the justice department, for example, get these documents and they can using a very similar provision and that the statue, when they could show it is material and relevant to a criminal investigation. my hunch is the justice department already has these records, for the same reasons that other people have wanted to see them and provide and useful information. >> as we were talking with the former president, i would be remiss not to mention this week yesterday that president trump posted ye, formerly known as

kanye west, the white supremacist nick fuentes at his mar-a-lago club. my first question is, and the main question is, charlie, why? >> you know, a hallmark of the trump era, which doesn't and, is one has to pay attention to fringe characters and worry about what kanye west it's talking about or now, nick fuentes, this mid 20 something white supremacists cloud. here, the ex president is meeting with these guys and we're talking about it's in a very serious moment on the world stage, because he monday maybe precedents again, so the people who surrounds himself with matter. even if people like. this so, that's the world in which we find ourselves, and continue to find ourselves. >> and we started this conversation on mike pence, he has hinted he may reply with the doj's request for an

interview, but he says he won't testify before the january six committee. why the difference? either if you can comment on that. >> well, i think one of the differences is that the january six committee has been characterized by some as a political body. we've seen liz cheney and adam -- get a lot of pushback from. that this testimony would be public, and so everybody would be able to see mike pence say probably harmful things about donald trump. so i think to cover his political base, with loyalists of donald trump, that he may be willing to talk behind closed doors but not in public. >> important. >> if i could add something to that. >> yeah, please. >> real quick. it's probably the answer is, as she says, political considerations. but there is an important constitutional distinction as well. the vice president, or former vice president being hauled before congress, eight coequal branch to testify about internal executive branch things, is quite a different

separation of powers scenario than the vice president or former vice president talking to the justice department, another piece of the executive branch, about executive branch things. so, there is also, i would, say maybe this is naive, but there's a principal reason for a vice president or a former vice president to be more willing to talk to the justice department than the congress about what went on inside the oval office. >> and what about special prosecutors? smith, what role do you think he is going to play in that,? barbara? >> i don't know he's going to be the one asking the questions, but i think he's been certainly playing the role in these very high level decisions, strategic decisions, about how to conduct this investigation. no doubt, when it comes to someone whose testimony is as delicate as mike pence, they will try to work out some voluntary agreement. you will appear, having testified by video, maybe even agreeing to some parameters about the topics that they'll cover. that kind of accommodation has been given the former presidents before.

this is, of course, a vice president. so, it maybe they try to work that out. and jack smith will also have to be the person who decides if mike pence is not able to reach an agreement, whether they serve him with a subpoena and take him to court and compel him to testify. those are decisions that jack smith now has the authority to decide. >> charlie, northam the prosecutor? >> well, he is someone i had interviewed over the years, but in a much lower profile role. he is now finding himself thrust into the most scorching spotlight there is. bob mueller and people who work before him also experience that. so, it seems he seems like a tough guy from my previous memories of interviewing him, back when he was under the spotlight for how he was handling various congressional corruption investigations against members of both parties. but i'm not sure how anything can prepare him for what he's about to go through now.

so, i'm interested to see what pressures will be brought to bear on him and how he stands up the right. >> well, we'll be watching these investigations closely. charlie savage, barbara mcquade, thank you both. and up next, incumbent democratic senator raphael warnock and his republican challenger, herschel walker, gear up for their final push ahead of georgia runoff race just days away. over on the latest, after the break. th break.

>> families are struggling because of biden's inflation, and washington post change unless we make them. georgia's doing better than the rest of the country, because we stood up for hardworking families. herschel walker will help georgia, not be another rubberstamp for joe biden. that's why i'm back in commercial, and i hope you will join me in voting for him, too. >> georgia governor brian kemp has entered the chat. lending his support to

republican candidate herschel walker for the first time as running in the georgia senator runoff lace. the latest polls have the candidates in the margin of error, and what democrats have already clinched the senate, many and additional seats will provide more breathing room in president biden's divided government. so, once again, georgia is on our minds. joining me now is kendrick cotton, ceo of the new georgia project action fund, and fernando monte, democratic polls and nbc political analyst. thank you for being here this afternoon and morning. kendra, let's start with you. republican governor brian kemp is popular in georgia, and won his race outright. up until this new tv spot dropped, though, kemp kept his distance from walker before election day. so, what do you think of his waiting into the fray here, now that his position is secure? do you think his position will make a difference? >> i, thank you for having me on the show this morning. i really appreciate it. to answer your question, you're absolutely correct.

brian kemp didn't do a god darn thing for herschel walker until last week. during the election, he got about 200,000 more votes than walker did, which means a lot of republicans here in georgia simply aren't buying more herschel walker is selling. or maybe they can't figure out between the vampires or werewolves and whatever else comes out of his mouth. to add to us something elasticized effort to bolster a candidate who probably never should've been running in the first place. i'm sure the republican party is having a little bit of buyers remorse with that one. the ad doesn't point to what herschel walker supports or what he's going to do for georgians. it simply shows him in opposition to warnock and joe biden, and that's about it. >> and kendra, are there any other big ticket republicans headed to stump with walker? is this lack of coordination another sign of disarray in the party? >> well, i think we saw what ted cruz and -- television spot, can't remember the interview with walker in the middle, looking like he was a hostage.

but beyond that, i have no idea what the gop has to offer. we consider that down south, family business, and i have been taught not to get involved in the fray. >> all right,, fernando all right, fernando want to bring you in here. let's talk numbers. the latest numbers i am seeing a from the a i he pull with warnock leading by four points. that is well within the margin of error, so what is your sense on the ground, talking to voters, of where things are standing? >> what is interesting about the poll numbers is they have been remarkably consistent, really from what we have seen dating back to the november 8th election. we're not continues to maintain a significant. and i think it's right about governor kemp, they are trying to leverage the popularity that governor kemp has with independent voters which of the polling indicates where herschel walker has the biggest problem. he is badly underwater with

independents, certainly democrats, and even republicans under the age of 50. so it seems to be a remarkably consistent race. i think, as you outlined at the outset, it is critical for the democrats to hold the seat because that margin of error with that extra seat, that 54 seat, is critical for balance of power sharing. and more importantly, for allowing maybe other senators in the democratic caucus who don't wanna take a political votes in the election years, to have that benefit and still get through majority support for the federal government judges and the important biden appointees that need to go through the senate consent process. it is a critically important election. the it recognized what we all know. the democrats are favored, if they turn other base voter gonna win again. >> important points there. kendra, first i want us to listen to a recent statement by walker and have a question for you on the other side. >> first of all, this election is more than herschel walker. this election is about the people. >> so, let's talk about walker

because, on a national level a lot of these moments that summer calling it gaps, herschel walker seems to have a lot of them and they get a lot of attention. but how are they playing in the runoff race with voters in georgia, and how democrats and the war not campaign been hitting on these hard enough in your opinion? >> single, a what we know from our research is that black voters in georgia are not motivated to vote for specific candidates or political parties. they want to know what their elected officials have done with them lately, and that is why we in the georgia project action funders that reminding georgians, especially black votes, who will return the outcome of this election that because we showed up in record breaking numbers in 2020 and 2021 senate runoff, we have got student loan day relay, the first black women on the supreme court, the inflation reduction act which will expand medicare benefits and lower prescription drug costs. investments in clean energy, we have created more manufacturing jobs, more say shown and made oxygen more equitable, and now we have a chance to turn out

again to get it done for selves in our families and our communities and that is what we are focused on. so i think was correct when he stated that the voters in georgia don't care about herschel walker. >> and canada, you are touching on a lot of key issues voters care about and that brings my mom to abortion. so fernand, does the georgia supreme court temporarily reinstating the six-week abortion ban put fire back into this campaign? >> absolutely. i mean, we saw to november 8th a dobbs decision on overturning roe v. wade was absolutely a motivator for democratic voters, women voters in particular. so i think that is going to help supercharged that election. but as we talked about at the outset, and it is interesting taken back to brian kemp for second. this is this a political actor that made the judgment in the race in november to john vote for republican governor and vote for raphael warnock. now with were not on the ticket by himself, i just don't see the voters having any reason to change, fundamentally, the calculus they express. but again, it is so critical for the democrats not to get

complacent, to engage in campaign. i think that is why president bomb's getting about on december 1st. this last week, before the election actually takes place next week, you are going to see i think that enthusiasm gap and more importantly, i think you see signs of republicans may be taking their foot off the accelerator a little bit which shows that they may be feeling that this is gonna be a race that they can win. >> and we've talked a lot about division here, but i want to and talking about partisanship. kendra, what does that look like in 2023? >> we know that 50 plus one. so getting effigy first vote is really important. again, it has been mentioned. i think voters are tired of being progressive voters are tired of being held hostage by west virginia, arizona. we need a little bit of breathing room. and, so this is critically important. i want to stress again, it is a turnout day not a persuasion came. we know what our charges. the georgia project action fund is not going to as knocked on 1 million doors prior to the 76. our progressive ecosystem here in georgia is knocking 4

million doors total. we intend to drive out to our voters. i know a lot has been said during this electoral cycle about the lack of energy. but it is not about energy, it is about resolve. people in georgia want to see progress. they understand all the issues that are on the ballot and there's a resolve to get out and get this done on december six. >> well, georgia. mind thank you governor mcconnell i'm monte for those insights. >> up next, why a man called police on a little girl who braids lantern finds. her mother, joins me next. braids lantern finds her mother, joins me next. her mother, joins me next. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful,

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infected trees on our street inside of the solution to try by spring them on the trees on the actual bud. she's not only doing something amazing for environment, she was doing something that made her feel like a hero. >> that was 13-year-old hayden wilson, that the older sister of nine-year-old bobby wilson whispering lantern flies was a homemade environmentally friendly solution in her new jersey neighborhood last month, when a neighbor called police. the neighbor, a film former councilman described a nine-year-old as a little black woman with a hold on. bobbies mother said her daughter was racially profiled nfc is pushing for more open dialogue about racism in her community. joining me now is malik joseph, mother nine-year-old bobby wilson and 13 year old hated wilson. thank you so much for speaking with us. and first of all, i'm just so sorry that this happened to your family. how is your daughter, bobby, doing and how are you? >> i just want to thank you for having us. what i can tell you is that both fabian haden, they are doing a lot better than they

were initially. especially bobby. a lot of people and institutions want to support of the. they are doing a lot of work to make sure that she doesn't lose her's excitement for. stem and so she is doing well. >> that is really beautiful. and i want to, you get framework for this here is that you are saying your daughter was racially profiled. what deeper issues thus this expose about your community and the issue of race in the country overall to you? >> for me, i have been here for eight years. and i pretty much for the most part i can say i had never really felt here until that morning. that is when it became clear to me. and i have been receiving a lot of input. people been leaving messages in my inbox, leaving letters in my mailbox, and sharing their experiences that they have also had here in call swell that are related to race. for me the minute that i heard the audio, especially, it

became clear to me. i think the biggest issue are concerned i would say i have is that i wanted to be a teacher for my moment my community, is that i'm not quite sure people understand that racism is not only the word that starts with an. it is other language around the conversation. it is adulterous in little girls, adulterous in little boys. the language of calling the women and men when they are in fact children. >> no, that struck me as well. because your daughters are girls, and yet she was referred to as a woman. and so often black women are subject to adult-ification an overcentralization. how did that feel to u.s. their mother? >> sorry, it is so. that is hard to hear. you know, it is hard. how does it feel for me. often i question, and i think about what could've happened. but for me, i am just reminded

that i have bobby every night. i am reminded that, thankfully, we have the best caldwell police report meant that responded. i'm reminded that even though this outcome has not been the same for others, of our same hugh indifferent states, i am reminded that it didn't happen to bobby. and i'm grateful for it, but it is scary. you know it is very scary. >> it absolutely is so scary. and i am so glad that they are safe and it strikes me that in your speech at the town council meeting, you call out your neighbor, gordon law she who happens to be a former new jersey councilman. has he apologized to you, to your daughters, and is that enough if he has? >> i can tell you that and michelin i approached him the same day that it happened, there were two times that he offered an apology. both times the apology was offered to me, when it was prior to me hearing the audio and seeing the written 9-1-1 transmission report.

the apology that he gave me with him telling me, he thought bobby with either one a little lost girl, or if she was a little old lady with the -- . and i challenge him with the with that. we how could be lost on the same block where she lives? and number two, did you ask her, did you offer hurt yourself foam? so for me, receiving an apology based on a lie that was not the truth is not an apology. it is not an apology. >> and i know, you know following all of this you and your daughters were actually invited on a black girl lead science tour at yale. which is kind of. cool it sounds pretty wonderful. can you tell us what that meant to you and your daughters. >> oh boy. so it meant the world. that day, it was just our small family. it was the two girls, their dad, and myself. and like they said, we were the

all-female lead black female science trip. bobby was ecstatic. first of, all initially she is a little shy. but once the day got started and she started seeing at the different specimens and she was able to name her own lab rat. i think that the mouth i should say is named bob. that was an amazing day because i think for the first time, for us as a family we were able to recognize and just say, oh my god. our little bobby wonder, she is a scientist. she is a chemist. these women, they wanted to do this because they saw in themselves, bobby. and senior light up, her dad and i, we were like this is bodies on. and one of the biggest things that came out of that is yale university, the entomology department they offered bobby for her to send one of her specimens of the lantern fly and they are gonna name that collection after her. >> that is so redemptive. and it also just speaks to the

power representation. >> and i don't rabbi asking, you what are your hopes for daughters and other black earls in general, but in this space >> the number one hope obviously is for bobby not to lose her enthusiasm. for her not to lose her wonder, for her to feel safe. that is what is about. how do we explore, how to children explore? it starts with them feeling safe. so that is my job. i'm happy that my community is supporting us. the community near and far. but for both of them, i just want them to be able to explore their world, whatever it may be. whether it is science, chemistry, advocacy work. i want them to emotionally feel safe, physically feel safe, and i want to make sure that it is clear that my goal is that other black and brown children are safe. we cannot call the police on children when they are doing something harmless. it is just not what should happen. >> well, monique joseph thank

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law. this is a new development in the heartbreaking viral story of the 25-year-old north carolina woman, killed an cabo san lucas last month. jen coloradans family says, she went to mexico for a vacation with a group of six friends. less than 24 hours after her arrival, she was dead. according to police, robinson's family says her friends claims she died from alcohol poisoning. but the death certificate, obtained by a north carolina tv station listed the cause of death as severe spinal cord injury and atmospheric station.

meaning her neck was dislocated and your spinal cord was cracked. no mention of alcohol poisoning. msnbc news has not obtain the duster target. mexican prosecutors have now issued an arrest warrant and are working to extradite the american woman they say is likely responsible for robinson's death. the fbi has also opened an investigation. joining me now is sean wells father, bernard robinson. thank you so much for joining me, especially amid this time of grieving. first and foremost, i'm so very sorry for your loss. i know we just celebrated thanksgiving. your first without her. how are you in your family holding up right now? >> have we struggle in. we struggle. and we've never experienced nothing like this before. every mother, every father out here across the nation lost a child, i can experience their pain.

it is a very heard in court, deep cut feeling inside you. i mean, it just. your mind just. it is all over the place, you know. there is no one that you saw her a couple of days ago. and now, she gone. you know. >> yeah, who was your daughter to you? who was shown kuala? >> she was my everything to me. she was my only daughter. we had a very good father and daughter relationship. i always was in her life, i always made sure she had what she had. always want to know the group of friends that she hung around. but these fans right here, i didn't know nothing about him. you know. only thing i knew was that she

went to. i don't know nothing about them. only thing i knew, nodded nano. only thing i knew was that she went to college with them. other than that, if i would unknown who these friends was, i would've been as a father like oh it's been. always want to know who the parents are. what's the name, go and talk to him. or you know, just talk to him on the phone. these group of friends right here, i ain't have a chance to get to know them, no of them. only thing i know is they went to college with them. that's a. >> so you did not know the front you want to kabul. with >> not at all. and for the parents who had race they kids these kids, they hadn't reached out to me or nothing. as a matter of fact, the kids never reached out to me when they got back here. with that laying, story it was alcohol poisoning. and i know deep down in my gut that it wasn't no alcohol

poisoning. >> and mr. robinson, i know that social media has really brought the story to a wider audience. we will not play at here, but there is video of the alleged altercation that let your daughter's death. is that how you learned the truth of what happened to your daughter? >> yes. i asked god to reveal me the truth. i am a god fearing man. i serve the lord. and i brought up in the church the same way. so she got a good spirit and a good personality about herself. she not a fighter. she tried always p put people around here that you get a try to do bodily harm to her. same way her father's. so, c d b is the one that call me that following monday and really got it going and when he got the video, he sent the video out. and he got the video and he showed me the video and i put

the video out there, because i said the whole world need to know what happened to her. even though she was naked, i hated to see her that way, but i had to put the video out there so everybody around this world know that alcohol poisoning was a lie. just for them to do that and leave her in that house and go to our airport hotel and sit there. no i'm hearing money was stolen from her. and then for the men to be in that house and let that go down. so i want every last one of them back over there. and then the man who came to the house. >> mr. robinson, i do know that arrest warrant was issued for one of the young women on the trip for your dog with your daughter. the mexican authorities are working together extradite. it is that enough, it's not something you want? >> i want every last one of

them over there. that's a start. like i say, god fights my battles for me now. i'm a very patient man. very humble. i don't bother about it. i racer that way. she loved. people attached to her because of a personality and how she carries herself. i mean, she was just beginning to start her life, become an independent woman which she was on her way. she had so much stuff going for herself. and just for them to do that to her. >> is there any form of just a second research for you, mister robinson? >> whatever the justice's, for the mexican authorities to do that. like i say, god will fight my battles men. i just want justice for her. she gone now. as a father, i can do nothing but just stand and be her voice.

and not let her die in vain. i am standing here hurting. but i'm talking to you all the same time. you know, my life has changed tremendously. to the utmost. she's got a birthday hats that we come next year, we celebrate her birthday. so now i'm not gonna be able to do that. not going to be able to become a grandfather. not going to be able to walker down the aisle. you know that is a hurtful feeling. my legacy is, she was gonna be my legacy. >> absolutely. and i just know you are grieving and i thank you for making time to think to speak with us. her name is not forgotten and it is clear that you are a man of faith, so we will keep you in our prayers. >> i want the max kenneth orders to just do the right thing. i just want to mexican or it is to do the right thing. they drop the ball on this. >> what we will stay on the

story. >> they came back to, me when i was in that funeral home, i saw them. i saw the cut on her lip. how can they overlook that when they came in the house? no. they don't sit well with me. and the mexican authorities, they got daughters down there, they would've won nobody do that today daughters down. they're >> absolutely. well bernard robinson. >> united states citizen, i feel that the mexico doherty. they would come over here, we would do the same thing for them enough in like they should do the same thing for us as united states citizen to come over there on their shore. >> yes, thank you for speaking with us. we will stay on this. bernard robinson, thank you. >> and now we want to switch gears and talk about the world cup and the u.s. national team strong showing at yesterday's first round world cup group stage game against england. although it was a goalless draw, it left the u.s. in a strong position to advance to the next round if they win against around on tuesday.

let's bring in megan fitzgerald who is live at the world cup indo heart qatar. i can hear some buzz behind you. what is included meng fans after the match between the u.s. in england, megan? >> yeah, it's in clay, i can tell you that the fans here in doha are still buzzing. i know fans back home are just insanely excited because, as you know, team usa was not expected to win last night. we are talking about number fit in the world. england that they played. and what we saw yesterday on the pitch was the team usa that came ready to play. holding off england for the whole game into overtime with a 0 to 0 draw. we talk to fans in and outside of the stadium. i want to play for you just a little bit of what they had to say. >> no i think we could still fight. i don't like to give up. easily i don't think the team wants to give up easily so i say let's keep fighting and go usa. >> i feel like we actually were dominating the whole game. >> when you think the game? >> it was incredibly intense. >> how far the usa?

go >> hopefully all the way. alma need to do is get out of this level. >> listen, we have a talking with team usa for the last several days now. they say it is all about mindset. that is what the keep in mind. they can win any game they want, they just need to focus on the pitch and delivery when. and so, as you mentioned, sin. clay tuesday's matchup against iran is incredibly important. it is you are die. if they don't beat, rhonda. but the fans here are convinced that we will get a win on tuesday and they will advance to the knockout round. is in play. >> fans are convinced. i know that there have been a lot of surprises during this world cup, which ones are sticking out to you since you're there on the ground? >> absolutely. a lot of surprises. a lot of upsets. this is a tournament that is incredibly unpredictable. the biggest one of always saudi arabia buting argentina 2 to 1. argentina is a soccer

powerhouse. they barkley one of the best soccer players in the world, lionel matthew. anything can happen. we saw morocco holding off their opponent just the other day. tunisia, as well. so this is an unpredictable tournament where we are seeing underdogs shine in the global spotlight. >> and i know you've talked a lot of fans. what are they saying to you in terms of what they are hoping for for team usa and others? >> you know, it is a mixed bag. we've talked to some fans who are realistic. they don't believe the team usa is able to make it all the way to the end to get the world cup title. but then there are others who are convinced that they will. because, you never know. we are looking at a team usa here that is the second youngest in the tournament. but they are also young and excited and really quick and smart team that we are looking at here. they are energetic. they are looking forward to the next match, but they are taking it imagine a time.

so, you know. we'll team usa make it to the knockout round? we just had an opportunity to speak with some sports experts who say yeah, that is very likely. how they do up against the netherlands, who is who they will play after around if they beat them, it is up in the air. so of course we are going to be cheering and rooting for team usa and hoping for the best here sinclair. >> well, meghan i, see some folks during behind you and i know you'll keep us on. it magnifies, charles thinking so much. and coming up, tomorrow on the sunday show. jonathan capehart welcomes doctor anthony fauci who is stepping down as director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases and gave his final white house briefing earlier this week. that is tomorrow, at 10 am eastern, right here on msnbc. we will be right back. ere on msnbc we will be right back. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping...

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home for watching and stay tuned, because alex witt has the. latest hello, alex. >> it is such a pleasure to take this handoff from you. sin clay, it is great to see you. you did a great job of anchor to show their. thank you so much. but let me just say, that interviewed mr. robinson, heartbreaking. it was so hard. he is a dad who tried to do everything right. particularly he was talking about knowing his daughter's friends, and yet he did not know these three with whom he was shot she was traveling to mexico. just so sad. anyway, i will see you again. soon.

thank >> you thank you. soon thank >> you