he was pulled deceptive by coast guard helicopter about 20 miles south of the louisiana coast and sign of hypothermia and dehydration. his family was aboard the cruise ship, they got a call from the coast guard. take a listen to how they reacted. >> a lot of tears, lost shouting, a lot of thanksgiving prayer and hallelujah's. >> the best news of all of this, the man is expected to fully recover. that does it for me everybody, i am yasmin vossoughian, i'll be back tomorrow, 2 pm eastern right here on and this and bc. simone starts right now. w. great things, you are watching simone. the mass shooting at a walmart and jazz a peak, virginia. the latest gun violence leaving a community and morning and less than a week. gunmen and two different cities left a trail of fear, pain and of loss with some victims

saying that they are now experiencing feelings of rage. we are talking to one of the survivors of the colorado springs mass shooting. about he and some of the residents are moving forward. and we also have to talk about my least favorite subject. i am talking about donald trump because he seems to have a lot going on, congress can finally get their hands on his tax returns, special counsel's work not to criminal investigations. not to mention, donald trump's meeting up mar-a-lago with kanye west and a white supremacist. we are getting into all of it. plus, since the 19 80s, the great reverend al sharpton has been fighting injustice and many have tried and failed to silence him. we are talking to the reverend himself about the new documentary, loudmouth the chronicles his life and his career as an activist. i am simone sanders thompson, and i have something to say. hing to say.

you know i have been the host of this show for just seven month and it feels like i have come to you on countless weekends already talking about one deadly mass shooting after another. buffalo and uvalde happen in the first month of our show. in may. and then this past week, when many were preparing together with family and friends for the thanksgiving holiday, yet another mass shooting before the victims from the last one where even laid to rest. on tuesday, a shooter opened fire at a walmart in chesapeake, regina killing six people and injuring at least six more. the shooter who took his own life at the scene was a longtime walmart employee. this tragedy is further evidence of america's gun violence epidemic. according to the other gun violence archive, there had been more than 600 mass shootings in 2022 so far. the organization considers my shootings as having four or more victims injured or killed, not including the gunman.

this is the third straight year with more than 600 mass shootings. it is not just the guns that are the problem we, all it is a hatred that is spread before the trigger is even polled. online extremism played a part and some of the nation's most horrific mass shootings in cities like buffalo, and el paso. a recent report from the new york times and it found that an uptake in white wing protesters openly carrying firearms and demonstrations are grants election centers, demonstrations at pride, events at juneteenth celebrations, local libraries. abortion rights demonstrations across our country. and there's a true it is not just limited to the dark corners of the internet. while we are still awaiting an update on the motive of a suspected shooter who killed five people, the lgbtq nightclub and colorado springs last week. and as they suspected but i do believe he pulled the trigger. some of the nation's most prominent right-wing influencers, even members of congress are singled out lgbtq americans for a tax, pushing

the lie that the community is growing children to perpetuate a so-called agenda. the accounts on extreme right now, these are just a few examples combined. these accounts of more than 9 million followers. these attacks have only continued and even as lgbtq+ people and colorado springs and beyond friends and family are killed in the club q attack. joining me now is one of the bartenders at club q and a survivor of the shooting, michael anderson. michael, thank you so much for joining me today. i really appreciate your time and your willingness to chat. you know, today marks one week since the shooting. and i'm really interested and how you another humidity husband coping. to you all feel safe? >> i can tell you personally on one friend, i do spend a lot of time worth my family there but it is found best that we stick together, hang out together,

top it all together. it's really like group therapy. that has been really helpful. and i will say going out in public, we are a little concerned. a little things that the not bother us before are now looking like warning signs. and it gets a little concerning and that is something we are dealing with. >> you know, a number of my lgbtq+ friends of often talk to me about how historically sacred bars like club q are to the community because you, know chosen families, spaces like, these movements are organized in the spaces. so has this attack changed any of that for you? >> 100%. i was just at a club q yesterday for the first time since the attack happened and it's a beautiful memorial on the front of the club but it is just heartbreaking that our space is now a memorial instead of that which is a safe space.

i used to go to work to see my friends daniel and eric, work alongside them and see their faces and talk to them and not the only place that i can see their faces on the side of q. >> you know michael it strikes me that when tragedies such as this happen, unspeakable tragedy's, there are multiple responses that communities can have. some people decide to organize and their morning and in their grief. some people the responses anger and some people response is drawing in. it's what as the response from colorado springs residents been like and how are our people, are people angry? >> i will say everything you just mentioned is a part of this healing and acceptance process. it is all of those feelings but eventually, at some point in terms to anger. it turns to rage at our country, our governments lack of ability

to value human lives more than they value gun rights that our founders never intended us to have. owning an assault weapon on the streets of america? that is not what they intended when they wrote that we have a right to protect ourselves. >> a republicans are set to take over the house in january, and i think we talk about the need for meaningful gun safety reform. and i think it's less likely that we see that, and an extra years it's not possible and it is less likely given the and power in the house. what is your message to lawmakers who are standing in the way of progress for gun reform in this country? >> it's 100% and i have a lot of time to think about this and the last week. but i appreciate you having me on your platform, i do appreciate every cause that you bring to light because they are all important. and i do want to have a chance to speak directly to our republican legislators and our government. if they are listening, i want

them to hear me because they're denial of our reality that we are going through, children and schools, lgbtq's in clubs, christiansen churches. their denial of that reality -- is not a policy proposal. i understand how important it is that we have a right to defend ourselves and protect ourselves. i studied political science, and constitutional law and i get that. it's a very sacred right in our constitution. but what we don't get and what we don't understand frankly is how they continue to line their pockets with that dark and are a money, refusing to make these comments and reform changes to our policies. they are continuing to allow people to die while they do nothing. this you and i both want common sense reform. ballot polls just earlier from this, year 57% of americans support stricter gun laws. 83% of americans support red flag laws. 50% of american support and national assault weapons ban, something we have already had in the past. but unfortunately, the

republican party allowed that ban to expire under president bush in 2004. and they are on the wrong side of this issue. i mean americans want to feel safer, lgbt people to feel safer. i want the public to go to the store and not be afraid that when i hear a balloon pop, somebody is coming in with a gun and a gun of russian to walmart. rush into anywhere. i really want to challenge the republican legislators to bring something to the table because all they do is deny, deny, than i and they stand in the corner and they offer empty thoughts and prayers. and they do nothing. if they truly value -- yes ma'am? >> michael, i was going to say that you you, know it is not sunday but i believe you have preached the word here. and i really hope that you have, i really hope that folks across the country were listening in some elected officials are listening because you are absolutely right. i promise you, this will not be the last conversation that you

and i have. you had something to say today, i am so happy that you came to join us and i'm so happy that you brought a word because we needed one. >> that is, why simone always have them to say. i am glad to be a part of that today. >> thank you so much, michael anderson we appreciate your time. i am so sorry for what you and the community of colorado springs has experience. i am so grateful for your voice. thank you. >> thank, you thank you for your time and your platform. >> thank you. u you, now what michael and i just discussed, the acts of hate that brought about that tragedy in colorado springs, this is not happening on social media or in right-wing media outlets. people are taking what they read and what they see on the internet and they are spreading this hate into their communities. it is all connected. i want to bring in the great reverend al sharpton who has the host of msnbc politicsnation and president of national action network. rubber, and i want to talk about you new documentary interest a moment. i want to get your reaction to

my conversation with michael. you know, he talked about the community as feeling everything. they're feeling, anger they feel angry, if they are feeling the need to do something. how can folks take what they are feeling and turn this into something positive? something that will create change? >> i think that you must turn your anger into action. don't lose her anger but channel your anger in ways that he was talking and michael was talking. that is putting the pressure on those officials that stand in the way of what most americans want. and that is legislation. the fact is that we are talking about these killings that are happening one right after another, whether it is coming to lgbtq, whether it's against blacks, buffalo, juice or asians. and the laws have not changed. there is been no legislative response to any of this and i think that we must channel that anger into legislative action

by voting and by putting pressure on those that hold office. >> reverend, what is the remedy in this upcoming congress then? i will say you and i both know, there was bipartisan gun reform legislation that passed and this current congress. but as many people, you and i both said it was not monumental right? it was not transformative, it was quite important. it was a first step so what is the plan then going forward? how do communities organize and if you could also speak to the fact that this hateful rhetoric that we are hearing, it is sparking many of these attacks, does not seem to be going anywhere. >> i think that we must put the pressure on this congress, they're only maybe eight seats and majority. we must organize to change that but we must put the pressure on, they must feel the pressure, they should not have a moments rest. and we must put pressure on the nra and those in the gun business.

i have worked a lot in terms of dealing with gun violence and african american and in brown communities. they don't have gone manufacturing plants in those communities. we don't have great distribution outlets in those communities. these things are brought in and we need that challenge the congress and the regulators to calm down on the source. that is how you cut it off. >> all right reverend al sharpton, please stick around revved because after the break, we are getting into folks this brand-new documentary coming out next month. it is all about reverend sharpton's extraordinary career and public service fighting for equality and justice is called loud mouth. you do not want to miss this conversation but first our bestie, my colleague richard louis is today with the other top news stories. richard, i hope you are recovering from thanksgiving? >> i, am i still a big rally but i have some big news for you. early voting is underway today in the georgia senate runoff between democratic senator raphael warnock and republican challenger herschel walker.

voters waiting in line to get their votes in. and incumbent senator warnock, the walker and general election by more than 30,000 votes but fell to reach 50% of the state. that triggered the runoff which is december six. we have some new video of the aftermath of russian missile strikes and ukraine. similar talks happen in kherson in recent days as well. ukrainians are without power or hot water as temperatures plunge as a result of these attacks. ukrainian officials say russian shelling killed at least ten and injured dozens in the past 24 hours. an oscar winning actress and grammy winning singer irene kara has died. she was 63 years old. kara made the best known for the title drugs to the 80s blockbuster films, flash dance and fame cara's publicist says the cause of death is unknown. more simone after the break. imone after the break.

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the only thing you did wrong was he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. >> and new york city, and the 80s, what we wanted to say, people do not want to hear. >> so you had to be loud because you are not invited to address the public. [crowd chanting] >> this is the beginning of a civil rights movement in new york. >> reverend al sharpton is back with me now. reverend, i think that a lot of people are aware of the fight against racism and the south but not as many people are aware of the racism in the north which is you know, just as bad as racism in the south. if i do say so myself. it is always been important to you to expose these racial injustices that were taking place there. talk about how that's incorporated in the documentary? >> you know the fact of the matter is that most of the focus on the south, and no --

northerners took an attitude like they were better and what we knew, i was born and raised in brooklyn, new york. we knew that there was no real difference. there were neighborhoods that we knew we could not go in, there were schools that we could not get in and with this documentary does is document how since the 80s, some of us would come out and fight because there were literally blacks killed for being in the wrong neighborhood in brooklyn. not mississippi. and we fought many of the cases. we talk about the mistakes made, we talk about the things that we did right. and it documents from the 80s and then it goes all the way until 2020 with george floyd. and yes there is been some victories, there have been some defeats but we still have a president racism at this field that is not been dealt with. i think the importance of this simone is that if you see this documentary movie, you will

understand the new york that produced donald trump. donald trump is nine years older than me. and he was born and raised in queens, where howard beach which is one of the cases of this documentary showing had people coming out in the streets calling us the n-word which was believed out and throwing watermelons at us. to understand where we are getting this hate from now, it did not start here and it was not always down south. >> you know in the documentary, loudmouths we talked about footage from the 80s and the 90s. and where you march, he always made sure that the media was present. so there was a spotlight that could be put on that people. literally the black people that you were fighting for. that communities that you are fighting for. you talk about in the documentary, add a chance to see it, folks it's five plus. you have to watch it. you talk about being criticized of someone who is there to seek attention. you talk about how the media tried to turn you, the media

apparatus try to turn you into someone else when asking who us is reverend al sharpton when you have been around doing this work since you were 16 years old. so talk to me a little bit about the importance of the media apparatus here and speaking up and taken the role of a spokesperson? >> when i was 12 years old, i joined the operation bread basket which was the economic -- for the kings organization, the chapter in new york. and i learned from those that had done the southern movement, i was mentored by some of dr. king's lieutenants. i was too young to know dr. king, i was 13 years old. by the time i was 16, i knew that the media was a part of the strategy. what was the cell march? it was to draw media tension to voting rights. what was the march on washington? we love, that lionize that in the south but don't do that in new york, the capital of wall street and broadway lights in

times square. so i became this crazy figure because i did it in new york and we were loud. yes we were allowed. and new york, you would be ignored just having a church rally in the press release. we had to do what would put the victims out front and what was being done out front. and this documentary goes and shows the footage. this is not acting, this is showing the actual footage of what we faced and what was collected by news reels. some of which they were even put on the news and these, the john legend company was a part of putting this together. they were going to archives and showing it had not been shown. >> it is absolutely amazing, people need to watch. it jonathan kate wired has an op-ed in the washington post, i also think people should read about you and this documentary. before you, go can you talk to me about how you shifted from the reverend al we saw on national television 30 years ago today to the reverend al that we know today? have your views changed or is

it just the way that you deliver your message? >> i have just grown and how i deliver the message. the same message in the same message that i did at houston hawking's funeral and the late 80s when he was killed for being and benson are. the same message i get by george floyd's funeral or at mrs. whitfield's funeral, one of the ten killed in buffalo. the message hasn't changed, the tactics have not changed. i just would look silly walking around with platform shoes and bell bottom pants. so just because i dressed a friend does not mean what i'm addressing is no different. but i can say this, that in my 40 years of being out front and known, my greatest honor is on weekends to be introduced as the great reverend al sharpton by simone sanders towns in. that's an honor you have to work for. >> thank you reverend sharpton, you know i love you and have to take a point of personal privilege to say we are all grateful for you and your voice. you stand in the gap for every single one of, us you are personally said in the gap for

me. and as my greatest honor to introduce you every weekend. so thank you, thank you, thank you. you guys make sure you watch that country. the documentary film loudmouths comes out on december 9th, we will see you reverend sharpton on politicsnation at the top of the hour. i will let you go and get ready for your show. thank you fox, make sure you all watch. it don't we love reverend sharpton? just watch it. shall right now, there is a big win for lawmakers and a big fight with donald trump or you know what? his tax returns. that went out to the supreme court, that fight. the january six committee is reportedly preparing its final report and what about that? department of justice special counsel? legal analyst charles coleman helps us break it all down after the break. after the break. after the break. ...or plan? maybe... it's because in dreams, you can do anything. in dreams... you can hold your entire world in the palm of your hand. and turn time inside out... again and again.

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cleared the way for the house waives committee to have access to six years of former president donald trump's tax returns. the committee has been asking the treasury department for them since april 2019. when the trump administration put up a fight against handing them over which turned into a lengthy legal battle. and this week, the supreme court decided it is constitutional for the committee to have them. democrats want to know whether trump administration's policies helped him financially. we are also waiting on the final report from the house select committee investigating the january six insurrection. which we are hearing will focus mostly on trump's role in that

insurrection and attempts to overturn the election. nuggets bring in msnbc legal analyst charles goosen. -- former prosecutor in brooklyn, new york and house of the charles coleman podcast. you are busy my brother, you are booked in busy titled and busy honey. okay charles, let's get into it. how exactly will this work? will all of us get to see these tax records? what would you expect the house committee was going to learn from this? and i'd like to know that usually, they released their tax returns? >> usually some, and we see presidents release their tax returns when their candidates for office. it's a peculiar case and that donald trump has fought this for years now, under the guides of being under an audit. he also fought and under the guise of being a president. what we found this week was the supreme court said you no longer president, you are no longer a sitting president and so the protections, whatever they may have been that require for you to report no longer apply. the issue now i think is at the supreme court has put the house and a very difficult position

because the race committee will only have a short amount of time to actually review those documents before they make a decision as to whether they are made public. and january, when everything flips run and you have new committee heads, a lot of this stuff is likely to go away unfortunately. we are going to see the end of many of these things that have been lingering for years now. >> i mean this also applies to january 6th select committee right? they are also trying to beat the clock before the new congress, which will be led by republicans. it begins in january. now it is basically decision time on final interview requests, but entrepreneur referrals. when's fanta report is released, what could the impact be? >> i think the last thing that you said is the most important for viewers to understand. that is the importance of criminal referral, we know of jack smith who is in place as a special prosecutor, in terms of litigating any potential charges against donald trump. and i think that what we need to see as whether congress is actually going to make a criminal referral over to him

as a special prosecutor for potential brain jury review or an indictment. that is the question. merrick garland for me, months have been sort of under pressure as to whether he was going to move forward with the information that was made from that committee. he is essentially off the hook at this point. so the issue now is regardless of where proud to have the top two, with the information that you already have, is a january six committee going to make a criminal referral to jack smith? if it does, how long will it take him to make a decision as to what he does with it? >> so when i think i will also say from my you know the political peeps out, there i think that january six committee does not make a criminal referral, the work is not in vain. because the threat is still very real and it does not just rest with the former president. let's talk about jack smith because i and i think a good number of people watching are wondering you know should we expect his investigation to lead the donna champing and that it for his role in january six or four the mar-a-lago document case or both? what is going on charles? >> well i think that you can

actually expect the mar-a-lago case to be the hottest one and i think the reason i say that is because it is the most direct line to trump in terms of being able to a display consciousness of guilt as well as actions to put that together. because of the timeline and because of the investigative reporting that we have seen. at the same time simone, i think a lot of people have not prepare themselves for an ending to the story that could ultimately be anti climactic. even if he has prosecuted, even if he is convicted, i think that we have a very wide range of feelings as to what punishment looks like for this person? if we don't get our sort of pound of flesh, are we going to feel satisfied? what would feel like accountability was actually something that carried the day? is that going to be justice? i don't know that to be the case. even if we see a former president actually indicted and convicted which could very well happen under jack smith swatch. >> i hope you can see my face charles, we have to wait and see. i want to shift gears a bit and i want to talk about the death of an american woman in mexico.

i am talking about 25-year-old sean quallo robinson of charlotte, north carolina. she died near kabul st. lucas and in a video that apparently shows shanquella being beaten, all over the internet and the particulars of what happened to shanquella, we do not know all of the details yet and we will not be showing the graphic video. i will not that unrest one has been issued in mexico for the u.s. woman believed to be the one beating robinson in the video. mexico's also started an extradition process and the fbi charlotte field office has also open an investigation. now mexico open a femicide investigation. what is that charles? do you think that we will see the united states extradite a citizen to mexico? >> we have seen this before but i don't necessarily know that that will be the case here. femicide investigation is one where essentially, a woman is killed because of her sex. it is typically something that

occurs when you are talking about a woman who was killed by a man and most cases because of the fact that she is a woman. i don't see that as being the case here, in terms of the facts in and of itself. i am not intimately familiar with in terms of how mexico's going about their investigation. we would have learned more about why they are investigating in that particular light. given the charges that are likely gonna be placed on the american part, i would say it is more likely than not, not going to happen that this person is extradited to mexico. and it seems in my opinion, not understanding again the consulates of the mexican investigation because there is a current investigation going on in charlotte vis-à-vis the fbi that we don't know all of the contours about. we don't know necessarily what it is that they're looking that but knowing what we do, it seems a bit of that they are going for femicide because that is not what we have here. >> charles clement, thank you i will say shanquella robinson went on vacation, she should've came back and she should be alive today. thank you very much for your

time charles. ahead, we are getting into the controversy around donald trump's recent dinner at mar-a-lago. he was a dinner with kanye west, and a white supremacist. plus we get into president biden, he is pushing for gun reform amid a string of mass shootings. my political panel is next, you are watching simone. watching simone. feel the difference with downy. want luxury hair repair that doesn't cost $50? pantene's pro-vitamin formula repairs hair. as well as the leading luxury bonding treatment. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene.

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when trump would not initially condemn former klan leader, david duke. he did it after charlottesville with this fine people on both sides comments. and he did it when he told the proud boys not to stand down but to stand back and stand by. here to discuss as my political panel told all-new new reba, the white house bureau chief at the washington post. chuck broach a is a democratic strategist and host of the latino vote podcast. reena shaw is a republican strategist and founder of relax strategies. all right, folks told luther, we'll start with you because foreign days is a non white supremacist that before this meeting, this dinner if you will, many people did not know his name. and, now we are sitting here talking about him. not just us, many outlets have talked about him. what dinners organizations need to be vigilant of when it comes to the extremist figures, especially going into the 2024 cycle? >> that's a great question. it's incredibly important for

reporters, journalist, generally to call out people like nick fuentes for what they are and not beat around the bush, not mention words that don't specifically identify him as a white supremacists as someone who and the extremist behavior. it is important for us to focus on that and make sure that we are using the right language. and now it is also important for us to not dwell and not elevate people like that who have meetings with donald trump because they want to be in the news. because i want to be elevated, they want to be in the national conversation. it's important for us to call out what happened and then move on and talk about the importance of what it means for former president to have dinner with a white supremacist and not condemn his views. and not, not remove himself as opposed to associating himself with such views. so it's important for us to write about what this means, what this means for where we are in this country's history? such a person who not only was the president could be running for president again or is running for president again and

could be the president again. important for us to write about it and talk about it in ways that are responsible. >> spoken like a white house bureau chief y'all. look i agree with this toluse and i think is right on the money, but reena let me just say this. donald trump was having dinner with kanye west, who brought nick fuentes. and i think it's important to note that a few weeks ago, kanye west was blasted for us antisemitic comments. and if it was anybody else who was having dinner with kanye west this week, we would be talking about the fact that this person had dinner with kanye west, we would be asking if they denounce antisemitism. we would be asking you know if they stand with kanye. we would not be talking about the what supremacist plus one. >> so i have a few thoughts on this. number one, where are the gatekeepers? there are none it seems anymore. also, where did the standards go? again, there are none anymore. so this the man's a public conversation that is not just robust, it is one that should call to the carpet the people

that are most guilty of doing the most obscene things. and nick fuentes is one of those people. he is a holocaust denier. in my generation, your generations amount, we know this. this is just begged in. take a history class, we know that the holocaust is real so i am one of those people who have never been a part of the journalistic or. i will say this, i genuinely believe in this country, justice comes along with great journalism. and if we do not have twitter to expose the fact that kanye and nick fuentes can watch right into mar-a-lago and say whatever they want to say and do whatever they want to do, we would have no accountability. it is up to republican leaders again to denounce the very underbelly the party. but will they rise to the occasion? likely not. so i think again, it demands us the public to do our part and pushback, have corporations pushback to. >> i mean i guess that's what i am saying. and the last one i will say illness and shock if you can quickly respond but i have heard nothing about the antisemitism. i think it is terrible that a

white supremacist was able to sit down and have dinner with the former president. but as i just wonder before i the segment, power to the course for donald trump. we also have to call it out at the same time and i think this, i frankly feel like people need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. then we just forget about the antisemitism chuck? >> you're exactly right, the point you are making this the most important part of this politically and policy wise. we cannot stand by and let any of this stuff happen and turn our head and go oh, it is just crazy being crazy. you know how donald, as he is just crazy. he hangs out -- no, we don't allow it, we condemn, and we call it out for what it is and we say we are better than this as a country. we will not stand by and let this just go by as another crazy thing that donald trump has done. this man wants iran to be president, let him run but you cannot let him run and be around these crazy folks and not call about every single day that is the job. >> all right, i want to turn to the events of this last week

because not one but two mass shootings right? they have made national news, resulted in 11 total deaths. i want to play some promise from president biden who has once again calling for a congressman to do something. calling for an assault weapons ban, something that has happened before that he intimately was involved with. he pushed for, i want you all to hear this now and get some comments on the other side. >> the idea that we still allow semiautomatic weapons in this country is sick. it is just sick. it has no, no social redeeming values. >> so banning assault weapons is virtually a nonstarter in congress. it could not even get into the last bipartisan gun reform bill. at least for the next two years for sure. but again anything is possible, i don't to be pessimistic. here things can happen. what are you hearing from the white house and whether president strategy is for calling on the body to ban assault weapons? >> they say they continue to be

optimistic despite the political realities that you just mentioned. they want to continue to put public pressure on this congress. they're looking at what happened during the elections in the midterms were a number of republicans who thought they would be in progress or watching from home and realizing that maybe their position on guns was not popular with some of the younger voters who came out and drove the voters for democrats. rs who camthey are trying to coo make this a public effort and put pressure on members of congress but it is a difficult situation. republicans will be taken over the house and they do not want to pass anymore gun control, gun safety bills. they made it very clear that they don't want to do. that it is not yet clear what president biden is going to do other than putting pressure on some of the state governors who now in some states, states have majorities that they did not have before to try to push laws of the state level. and use as an executive authority to try and expand some of the gun safety positions that he has that could not make it through congress at this point. >> right, not very quickly, do you think there are even a handful of republicans in my vote to ban assault weapons?

>> right now, does not seem that it is like unlikely. i know in private conversations because of the ones i had with, them there are republican women in the house today that are willing to do something in next congress. and, look i can't say anything more than that at this point except for i know these people are privately saying it. no mothers like me, i want to country or my babies are safe. i will go to walmart and peace and for thanksgiving. i can say nothing more except for that my party has blood on its hands. they have to do better because for ten years from 90 42,004 we had assault weapons ban, we saw matt shootings decrease by 70%. we need to look at the empirical data and we need to remember that words of our founders, well regulated militia. assault up an's -- and civilians we have to do better as a country. i will hold republicans to account until the day that i die to make sure that they do better. >> all right chuck, i have ten seconds. one word to describe what we are seeing from our republican friends on this fight on guns? >> crazy will be crazy, coming to a political year, you want to put up or shut up. time to get the guns off the

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in the fight against climate change, it did not get a lot of attention last week. after the annual united nations climate conference wrapped up in egypt, okay this conference of the party for cop27 gets industrial nations together to work on solutions for climate change. with the urgency reaching new levels as rising -- rick of ick worldwide. here in the united states, you'll have to look to our stronger hurricanes, our heat waves, droughts and flooding emergencies to see what carbon emergencies are doing to the environment. and while it is bad, here it is for us and other countries that don't have the means to pay for recovery or already have food shortages. this year's cop27 came to an important agreement to get funds to smaller developing countries suffering from damage by larger wealthier nations. let's take a little deeper. french is cologne as the singer director of international climate policy for the center for american progress. welcome to you francis, francis also spends a little bit of time and the state department session is a little something

something if i do say so myself. okay francis, talk to us about this loss and damage agreement. that the united states and other more wealthier nations just agree to. how exactly is this going to work and you think that a republican-led congress will agree to give money to a cause that some of them even say is not a real issue? >> that's a great question, thank you for having me simone and let me tell you, this is a cause that has been 30 years in the making where the small, developing countries dumping and have been asking the bigger, biggest polluters to step up and help them as they get hit super hard by these impacts right? and so it means how to these countries not just temporarily relief for not humanitarian aid, this is how do you rebuild or how do you really milk and stand up a community after you get hit hard by climate impacts? and so for the first time, countries big polluters got out of the way and agreed that a fonda needed to be created. how we will work, we do not yet

know but they have a two-year mandate to solve this. so two years from now, it will have a final resolution of how to work, who pays, how much, how do you determine who gets the money? who is the most vulnerable and how that works? >> the question for 2024 election. your second question i was going to ask, do i think republicans will vote for this? >> i don't have any high hopes for republicans voting for more money for specific funds. but what i do think will happen is that the united states, our negotiators are people of the state department but mainly people from other countries that are at that table are going to start thinking a lot more creatively. we have not done a great job of meeting our international climate pledges to countries. but what we have not done that we can do now is start thinking about how this gets funded. and one of the places that folks are talking about already is why are the fossil fuel

industry companies that have such a big hand and causing this paying up into funds like these? they cause this, they have a hand in it, let's, they are making in the profits right? huge profits the last few years taken advantage of the energy crisis. they need to be at the table paying up. so countries will get a lot more creative, the united states and other countries will get a lot more creative about how we do this using those avenues. and many more -- >> so far this talk to me quickly about china though and russia because china emit more greenhouse gases than any other country but xi jinping, he did not even attend the cop27. either that the prime minister of india, -- vladimir putin was not there okay of russia, we probably know why vladimir putin was not in the room. real progress depends on these countries cooperating right? >> yes. so first of, all india was

actually playing ball at this cup. there were leading a push for language and talking about phasing down all fossil fuels. the final language did not make it in the final language of the cover text of what the call. the final paper that everybody sort of get behind but they lead. so we are seeing some changes there. they conversation between our president and the leader of china also signaled that we are able to come together on certain things. maybe we'll be areas of cooperation, maybe continue to compete with each other but get to solutions faster to that competition so that also gives me hope. but you are right it cannot just be the united states and i can just be the european union. india, china and others will have to step up into funds like these to help those that are suffering the most. >> all right well it remains to be seen but we will be watching. francis cologne, thank you very

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