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six women are making history as the first female referees to officiate the men's fifa world cup which is underway in qatar. on tuesday, stephanie reports of friends became the first sworn into officiate a match in the club's 92 year history. there's japan's yoshi media mushy the who -- united states and england on friday. rwanda's elinda mullen got will be taking the field herself to referee the games. three women will also service as the same referees. you have brazil's now back, mexico's cameron diaz media --
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united states. for more than a century, fifa banned women from refereeing males soccer matches. but that policy is easing in recent years as women officiate matches. in a statement the train at the fifa committee says, quote, i would hope the future, the selection of elite women's match officials from port-au-prince competitions will perceive does something normal and no longer as sensational. coming up on the second hour of war ayman, the fight for the 2024 elections has begun, bring it. now and our crowds are fighting to leave the. change, plus -- in the georgia runoff. why the rays still has big implications for democrats for control in the senate. and, supreme outrage. lawmakers are calling for a new code of judicial ethics in the lead of the second week. i am paola ramos in for ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪
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the 2024 election starts now. that is the message a host of democratic organization groups have announced donors and activists. officials are still counting the ballots and a handful of meters, is by the democrats remain packed is already gearing up to retake that house in 2024, creating a plan to win back seats in places like california and new york. and it isn't alone. leaders from three groups focused on down ballot races, you have arena run for something, and sister district, all of which were founded in the wake of donald trump's 2016 elections, have told their members that the fight to build on their winds from the midterms and needs to begin immediately in both state level and district level races. and one of those district level winds caught our attention. 23 year old nabeela syed de -- were making her one of the youngest members of the illinois general assembly in
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the first muslims elected to the state legislature. and joining me now is illinois state representative herself -- representative-elect, sorry, i'm so excited. it's so good to be with you, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thank you so much for having me. i appreciate it. >> of course. representative-elect, now that you've had a couple of weeks to ponder, to think about what just happened, what do you contribute the success of your campaign to? >> i think it very much comes down to the face to face interactions we've had with hundreds of thousands of voters in this community. i myself knockdown 20,000 doors, our team has knocked on over 50,000 doors because it is so critical for people, for campaigns and candidates to give people a reason to vote. and to give them hope and issues that they care about and promise to fight for them.
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and i think that's what we did when we showed up peoples doorsteps so it's been -- to see we actually did it. we flipped a republican held seat a seat that was not gone for a democrat and it comes down to the ground game to knock on the doors. >> tell me about those conversations that you are having while you were knocking on the doors. because as you said, you are talking about white suburban voters, you are talking to independent voters, you are talking to republicans. perhaps many of whom had never seen someone like you facing them. telling them that you will be in power to represent them. so what were those conversations like and how will that help you as you are in power? >> it is so important to remember that there are many people in the community that have never interacted with someone like me. they've never talked to a hijab wearing muslim, they've never talked to someone who is 23 years old looking to run for office. and having that conversation about what issues are most affecting them, matter most to
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them better keeping them up at night, prove to break down many barriers. people who are much more open to conversing with, me people felt comfortable in the conversations. not just with me but with our entire team. and it was incredible to see how asking a very simple question and genuinely wanting to hear someone's answer and reflect on that answer and engage in a meaningful conversation can make all the difference. because i had folks who are coming up to me on election day at the polling locations saying that they had never voted for democrats in their entire life, but somehow they decided to vote for me. and i was the only democrat on their ballot that they were voting for. and i reflected on that, and i, thought the one democrat they decided to vote for is a 23-year-old indian american muslim hijab wearing woman. >> what does that say to you? >> that just goes to show that the importance of that face-to-face conversation of actually bridging gaps -- bridging -- creating bridges in the
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community and talking to people goes a long way. and it's easy to say that someone like me could not win and a republican district, but at the end of the day we've prove many people wrong and i'm hoping that this can service an inspiration as example to invest in younger candidates, and invest in people of color, and not just shut them down from the political process because they're not, quote, unquote, electable. they're electable if you invest money, if you invest, time and if you invest the energy to make them electable. >> electable and you're on your way to govern. what are some of your priorities as you're looking at the future and also as you may have heard, there's so many democrats that are already thinking of 2024. how to get young people -- had to get young people like you in power. what advice would you give them? >> it is easy to be cynical and politics under seeing it's the case with many voters in our
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community. eight people are very much turned off by politics. but there is a way to get to a door and give people hope and give them excitement about politics that we frankly have been missing a little bit with the political advertising, the negative campaigning, but i think that's what we're able to do three out our race and i'm excited to see this upcoming election, what people come up with to give people hope and give people reasons to turn out. it's so easy to look at young voters and say, you're lazy, you don't turn out. but we need to be continually providing young voters with a reason to turn up. and make promises but also deliver on those promises. and i think that will very much help with not just turnout for young people but turnout up and down the ballot. >> congratulations to you, we will all be looking at you to see everything that you do and how you pave the road for future generations. thank you so much, illinois state representative elect nabeela syed. joining me now is my saturday night how no, molly joe fast --
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immigration advocates, and dean obeidallah, host of the dean obeidallah show on sirius xm and and msnbc daily columnist. i want to get your reaction after hearing someone like representative elect nabeela syed, what comes to mind when you hear her and someone like her? >> you're asking me? >> yes. >> sorry. it's very exciting. but the truth, as we saw this midterm was about the american people rejecting a lot of this base rhetoric and the republicans very inflammatory language and voting for candidates that connected with. she knocked on doors, people connected with her and liked her. she's very charismatic. they vote for the people. and i think that this midterm was really a rejection of a lot of the kind of trumpist
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rhetoric that we've been held hostage to for the last three elections. for the>> astrid silva someonee her is the future. how can democrats continue to govern as people like her and continue to inspire people like her to run for office. what would you tell them? >> most importantly is to pass bills that are going to actually get things done in communities and that's what so many of the young people and not only the young people running for office but the young people voting, they are trying to get that message across. they need to be able to deliver to communities in order for our communities to not only go and vote and believe in the system. and i think that's being done by so many organizations and it's being done on the ground by so many. states we just make sure that we're amplifying it even more. >> dean, i feel like we are basically 2024. everyone's talking about 2024 like right in it. what do democrats have to do in order to win back the house and can they do that if joe biden continues to be at the top of
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the ticket? >> >> can i take a second as a fellow muslim to say congratulations to her, and it was not a red wave this election but it was a muslim wave. we won elections everywhere! we won in illinois, georgia, maine, in states we have no business winning. and that is all because response to donald trump. so you see them running again, raise my -- in 2016, when he ran a campaign demonizing, us and latinos, of course, saying that islam's hadas -- the response, selina was a spike in hate crimes that we've never seen before. and then there was 2018, a record number of muslim americans running for office. because we understood the adage firsthand. if you're not on the table, you're on the menu. and we do want to be eaten by donald trump and his bigots. so people reacted. 2022, it was a record number of muslim americans waiting. and i hope looking forward to 2024 for the democrats, which is remarkable that during planning because we're not big on planning. run more responsive, not planning. rapidly planning.
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it is great to see an actual plan going forward and candidates who look like america, and i think it's a remarkable time. democrats didn't have to -- it's not the red wave, it's about a 45 seat margin. we can win this in 2020. for so i'm so heartened that there are already planning for the future cause it's winnable. >> i'm going to stay with you, because nabeela is the future, the future in a couple of 20 years is the majority and minority. do you think republicans will be willing to adjust, not just how they adjust in the face of someone like nabeela syed. >> donald trump told us, how he had -- and white supremacists. i think it might be generational, i don't know where that turning point what might be in the gop where they finally reject bigotry. and embrace. people have different backgrounds different religions, different sort of trouble orientations. but it's not now. to me, the most shocking part of donald trump -- and tenuous, is that people were surprised by. it how can you be surprised by
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the guy -- that's the gop brand. he is leading still in the polls. so i don't have a gun pivot because it's a white supremacist fascist movement, and at its core right now. not all republicans but that the core of the party. so what's gonna make them change? losing more elections, i think. that's the only chance. >> molly, what do you make of donald trump's fancy dining with the quaint's? >> i mean, i agree that -- his previous ambassador saying that is who trump is. that's very much to trump's. and that is who he ran on being. so you don't see him say i disavow this person. i disavow all cause denies. and even kanye who wasn't the sort of headliner of that event as recently been dropped by all his committees for antisemitic rhetoric. i mean when people show you who they are, believe them. i would say trump has made this sort of very craven flag to tell you that values
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conservative views he's not antisemitic towards, but you, know you hang out with antisemites who are antisemitic. so i do think this is ultimately a bad look for him. but you know republicans are gonna have to keep losing elections, right? the middle has already said that they don't like this and until they can get -- until they can understand that this is not a popular message, they will lose. >> molly, as usual, reminding us when someone shows you who they, are believed. then you saw trump. panel, stick around there's still so much uncover. coming up, democrats might not need to win into senate seat to control the chamber, but it will need the ability to govern a whole lot easier. we'll explain. but first, richard louis is here with the headlines. hey richard. >> good evening to you, paulo. some of the stories we're watching for you. now the youngest victim of the -- was identified as 16 year old fernandez chavez baron. city officials previously --
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due to being a minor. one of six killed. he was an employee at the virginia walmart. belarus says its long-standing foreign minister vladimir mckay died suddenly saturday. this was two days before he was going to meet his russian counterpart, the 64-year-old attended a military conference in armenia earlier this week. and a ring car, the oscar and grammy winning musician best known for singing the total tracks to the movies fame and flashed us, what a feeling, has died. she was 63 years old. more with food paola ramos right after this break. ter this break (limu squawks) he's a natural. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ wayfair's black friday sale is here! onl save on mattresses &ed. bedding up to 70% off. living room seating up to 65% off. and get free shipping on everything! search, shop, and save at wayfair! ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪
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beginning today. the georgia senate runoff. and let's make one thing clear tonight, just because democrats have control of the chamber, doesn't mean this runoff is any less important. in fact the opposite. there are two big reasons why democrats still want raphael warnock to win the senate seat. a win would allow president
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biden's judicial nominees to pass through the senate more quickly in a win would also mean that senate committees which are currently split 50/50 would be under full democratic control. think about what that could mean. our panel is back with me right now. molly, first of, all what does it tell you that republicans tried so hard to try and block early voting from happening in georgia? >> i think they are worried about, you're always losing when you're trying to stop people from voting. herschel walker is a terrible candidates and, i mean, he's been plagued by scandals. he has a lot of trouble getting his points across. he's really been not a great candidate. so i can see why republicans would want people to have as little time as possible to vote. this has been also a play they've done before. remember one party fundamentally disagrees with a lot of this sort of promise of democracy which is every person should ever vote. so i do think that this is not
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super surprising. ultimately, this is a really important election for democrats. also, the 2024 map is not a great senate map for democrats. so the more seats they can pick up now, the better, and i also do you think ultimately they're going up against a slim majority but the gop is controlling the house and they're going to do a lot of wild stuff and the more the democrats have the room, the better. >> the democrats have real concrete possibilities in front of them. if democrats win the senate seat, senate committees will be under complete democratic control. so can you talk to us a little bit about the importance of that? what's the significance of having that full control? >> are you asking me? i'm sorry. >> for you, dean. sorry. >> for me. first of all, can i say, senator warnock deserves a full term. he's a conscientious thoughtful leader. he's been a public service or two years and 16 years before that as a senior pastor at the
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ebenezer church. first of foremost, i hope you will come out to give senator warnock a full term in georgia because man deserves it. and as a senator he's been championed voting rights and more. secondly, look, it makes life easier. right now the senate committees are evenly matched. they have the vice presidents vote so they have the majority of the senate technically on paper. instead, it will be a 51 senators will have one more senator in these committees. making easier for things to get out of committee, easier to issues subpoenas. easier to do investigations to counter the gop in the house the misinformation expecting to see from there. and the other one thing as a human quality, we the democratic's have had -- out of the senate for many months. that resulted in as only having 49 senators as. well this can happen. again having 51 senators gives us more of a cushion. i know it's hard to, say but that's a reality. when senator warnock deserves a full term and that's the bottom line and that's why i think you should vote for. him >> it could be a huge
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concussion, astrid, if they go -- the majority in the senate will streamline the process for biden to nominate federal judges without the threat of republican inched obstructions. and i think we saw the way that donald trump was so deliberate and so calculated in the way that he pointed specific judges that were against immigration, not for deportation. so what does it mean for you, what does it mean for the immigrant community, to have liberal and diverse federal judges confirmed? >> not only for the immigrant community, but the -- all of us as americans have seen what is happening with all of the candidates across the country. and now more than ever, i think we can see candidates like walker shows us that the difference between electing competent people between electing people who are actually, there who care about our communities, versus electing people who are just pumped up as puppets. and as an immigrant, as someone who has been depending on the courts for so long now, the -- just seeing the judicial
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process and seeing what else can be done, again, it's not just a numbers game, it's about actually seeing who was there for communities and who is going to ultimately make those steps. we're not gonna see a lot of big steps, i don't think the reality is we're gonna see these big dreams that are gonna come true. but we can see the tiny the progress that's being made. and those baby steps for our community are huge. >> dean, astrid says that we may not see these big dreams come true, but let's talk about biden's overall agenda. can you expand on how a democratic stronghold in the senate could impact his vision, his agenda, and perhaps those dreams coming true? >> one is obviously confirming the judges and potentially justices if something was to happen supreme court. also confirming joe biden's nominations in his administration that need confirmation. that's important. but i think the hope would be you get a few republicans in the house because the majority might be four, five seats. and for five in a swing districts and need to vote for
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democrats to keep the seats maybe you can have some compromise and legislation. without having the democrats having the senate. that's out of the realm of possibility. so look, i'm hopeful. i'm hopeful this really helps president biden and makes a great case for 2024 when he runs for reelection. give us the house back, let's keep the senate. we can really pass legislation that's meaningful to change peoples lives for the better. >> molly, it may come down to independent voters. there's a new poll by the arp that shows just how tight this races but it also shows independent voters might be willing not to continue voting for democrats. even though you saw governor kemp campaigning today. but it's not entirely clear that's going to -- how that's going to play out. what do you make of this shift? what do you make of the sudden shift of independent voters facing warnock and giving him a shot? >> warnock is a better candidate. he's a better person. he's a known quote today, he doesn't live in texas, so that helps.
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he is also just some one georgians now. also, this midterm was really a referendum on trumpism. you did seize the ticket voters. you saw people vote four republican governor and a democratic senator. you saw people reject these trumpy candidates. so i do think it's possible. warnock is a really good candidate from the state. he is running for senator. i don't, i think that walker got a lot of help for having kemp on the ticket. because kemp is popular. look now this is a second term. i think that now that kemp is not on the ticket i think it will help warnock but we'll have to see. >> and astrid, what would you like to see? imagine if democrats do get this in control, they can make
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a change. what do you want to see from the senate? >> i'd like to add that it's important that in georgia the organizers on the ground have never left, they've continue to work throughout this entire time. so that's very important to remember that in georgia there has been work that's been continuously done. for me, what i would like to see is most importantly that there is actual legislation, there's making it through. there's legislation, there is one to benefit families. and again, i wish this was only an issue that is affecting immigrant families, but we've seen across the board that it's been very difficult to get anything across. it's been very difficult i think for someone who got involved in this political world because of my situation, not because i wanted to run for office or because i wanted to join the campaign or anything, for me, even learning what a filibuster was at 20 years old and understanding that 55 lane ducks session vote in 2010 was not enough, i think a lot of americans like myself that don't understand this process or don't understand what's happening for them it's making sure that these people that
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they are electing are actually able to get bills passed. >> and that's a good reminder, we're having this conversation because of the organizers were having this conversation because of the stacey abrams of the world. so molly, a street, and dean, stick around. ahead, the democratic push to achieve some immigration reforms before republicans take control of the house. our panel discusses that, next. scusses that, next eping leaks off her mind. comfortable in shapeware fabric she moves with ease. confident on nights like these. depend silhouette. the only thing stronger than us, is you. (vo) after fifteen years of the share the love event, subaru and our retailers have donated over silhouette. two hundred and fifty million dollars to charity. in fact, subaru is the largest corporate donor to the aspca... ...and the national park foundation. and the largest automotive donor to meals on wheels... ...and make-a-wish. get a new subaru during the share the love event and
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deathly blow. that's why this moment matters so much, that's why it's important. for hundreds of thousands of dreamers and might be an hour and never legislative moment. my panel is back with me to discuss all of this. astrid, i want to start with you. i want to start with that question. do you feel like this is truly a now or never legislative moment? is this the time for action? >> every single time that this happens is a moment for action. i think unfortunately i don't have the privilege of having hope that this will happen. because my life depends on it, my future and that of over 1 million people who are waiting and have been waiting for legislation on this. i think that's why from it so important that our community understands that while they are voting and while the things that they are doing or the right things, is just that legislation isn't getting through and so it's always disappointing for me to see how our community says, i went and voted. they're telling us that they did the right thing. and while that continues to be true, for me, i have to continue to hope that this is
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the moment that it's gonna happen and there will be others who realize that they have in their hands the power to vote in favor of our futures. >> molly, that's it, republicans have the power in their hands to do something and it's also happens to be one of the very few issues like daca dreamers, one of the few issues in which the majority of people agree. the majority of people see why it's so important. so important to protect dreamers. so why do you think congress has continued to fail? why do you think republicans continue to turn their heads the other way? -- >> because republicans don't want to solve immigration. there is no incentive. this is their favorite wedge issue, the southern border. if we had a legal path to immigration, there would no longer be able to use it as a wedge. so it's like there's so many of these issues that are so popular with americans. most americans -- i mean, we're all related to immigrants unless we're related
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to indigenous people. my great grandparents came here -- i mean, this is how it works. so the idea that somehow we are not going to have a path is completely and totally insane. and i mean most americans -- this is an easy one. but they will come to the table because they've had a lot of success using this as a wedge issue. so i think it's really unfair and it's not the way the country was founded. and it's not how things should be in this country. >> you've been in so many of these prints with people with a lot of power. you've been in rooms with lawmakers, with democrats, and republicans that are trying to figure something out that are debating this issue. what are can you tell us about those meetings? what happens in those rooms? >> the biggest change that i've seen is the difference in those conversations. when i started it was 2009 and i was freshly in college and i
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had the dreams that soon i would be at the 2010 world cup. that was my excitement, that in 2010 it was going to happen. and as these years have gone by, the conversations have gotten more and more divided. they've gotten -- people often forget that the dream act which was originally introduced in 2001 was a bipartisan bill by senator dick durbin and senator orin hedge. these bills have been used, as molly said, as wedge issues. and for me, it's my life. it's not just a bill that i hope passes, it's not a bill that i'm lobbying for, it's not a bill that i think it be really great. it literally is my life. and i think what i've seen that has made me very sad and has made me disappointed in our system is that people don't realize, and especially people that can take these votes, their staff, their teams, they know the consequences that we face. it's not something abstract to them. it's not me writing them a letter anymore.
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this is me in their face. hundreds of dreamers. years ago, there was only a few of us who were public about our status because our families were constantly threatened to be deported. and now, it's difficult to avoid us. now we're working in their offices, were working in the districts, we're working in schools, in hospitals, it's difficult to avoid someone who has daca or to know someone who will benefit from immigration relief. so if anything i've seen the consequences that they don't realize, not that they don't realize -- i'm sorry, that they realize the consequences they are facing real people. and i wish it would go back to a moment when it wasn't about these big issues and these big conspiracies. it comes down to the people in the districts and voting in favor of bills that are important. >> dean, astrid mentioned senator dick durbin. and actually, senator dick durbin has expressed confidence that a bipartisan deal could be within reach. he set, and i am quoting right, now a republican colleagues
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particularly those who are leaving and have told me privately they've always wanted to vote for the dream act. dean, you know more than anyone, there are things that we say in private, and the things we say in public. >> sure. in private i say i'd like to keep the dreamers and deployed donald trump, but i can't say that in public as much as i'd like. to the reality is, can you get ten republicans in the senate to agree to overcome the filibuster which is the procedure presenting a vote. to say let's give the dreamers who have been here and living in limbo over 1 million for ten years a chance to have the american dream? to simply dream about life where they can plan? and the cruelty involved in republicans saying no to me is outrageous. but it's part of the gop. and think about it, what if some republicans in the senate were voted for up -- and permanent residents? but what to carlson do? he would go crazy on his show, the number one show for republicans.
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-- his great replacement theory. so they fear that as opposed to aspirationally what's good for people, but 70% of american support giving permanent status for dreamers. children who are brought here by their parents. so to me, am i hopeful? can you find ten republicans in this lame duck session? maybe. it's unlikely. but maybe. maybe. >> a reminder we are talking a peoples lives. these are real lives. the panel, please -- go ahead, astrid. >> sorry, i just want to say, it's also so sad to realize. that 2013 we went from a senate vote that had passed and waiting on congress to pass it for an entire immigration reform bill and here we are in 2022 just hoping that dreamers, people like me are allowed to stay. just those conversations have to go back to making sure that it's not just dreamers. unfortunately, that's where we're at. compromise, it will have to be made. and it's sad to see how far the conversation has moved in these
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past few years. >> i couldn't agree more, straight. thank you for saying that. all of you, please stick around. after the break, of former native american boarding school reckons with its dark past. ckons with its dark past and it could strike at any time. think you're not at risk? wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention.
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had been lost and ruined by that system, but one school system in santa fe has already building a new era on old land and turn tragedy into triumph. >> come in guys! >> for christina better becoming -- was a dream job. she's not just an administrator but a steward of history. overseeing the school that has overcome. >> for some people it's too painful to come back here? >> yes. >> founded in 1890 by the u.s. government, it was one of more than 400 boarding schools in the 19th and 20th centuries, they used separation and violence to stamp out the traditions and spirit of indigenous children. and took hundreds of lives all in the name of assimilation. >> you still hear stories from families who say we will never send our students to an indian school because of the experiences of my grandfather and what they lived through. >> this is all that remains of the original school building
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from 1890, children were fat separate from families, even if they spoken eight of languages, and change if they broke the rules. it was a sight of incredible pain but it's a reminder of how far this has come. in 1876, the trouble -- of the local pueblo communities took control in indigenized the curriculum. now, native culture and language are celebrated here. >> tribal elders teach history, they have one of the highest graduation rates in new mexico. indigenous people staying on campus was transformed, students and families eight, prayed, and dance together. >> back in the day, we weren't allowed to speak our languages we were punished if we did, punished for just dressing up in our regalia. so to be able to dance freely shows our resilience as native people. >> for senior alexis ville who had a tough childhood and who was separated from her pueblo at age five, being part of this
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is healing. >> it sparked marvin interest for me to go back home and re-learn and regain everything that was lost. >> now the school teaches a six different native languages. i'll be no sandoval teaches the dine language, also known as navajo. >> these are the change agents. and they're the ones that will make the difference. and we'll see the -- continue to hear the language, the prayers, the songs. >> chrystia beta hopes the school will become a model. as indigenous americans push lawmakers to act on two bills, that will can create a congressional commission to study records from the indian boarding schools. >> there's been a movement to talk less about race in school. so are you finding that you're doing this at a time when there's less and less support for it? for it
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inexcusable supreme court -- ethics. senator sheldon whitehouse, along with congressman hank johnson, have released a letter this week that the two lawmakers sent to chief justice john roberts in private two months, ago before this times report came out, saying, quote, the court needs to get its house in order and adopt a binding code of ethics. my panel is back with me to discuss all of this. molly, i want to start with you. what is your reaction to this second supreme court leak? >> i think it is insane that there is not a code of ethics for the highest court court in the land. this is the most powerful court. they have lifetime appointments. they -- even if they are not doing anything unethical, which i'm not saying they are not, even the appearance of being unethical is -- you have a court that is very right leaning. it's a 6 to 3 court. it is a lifetime appointment. and you have clearly a lot of
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you -- have these two leaks. it has justice thomas's wife, who's very involved in republican politics, whatever that looks like. and you don't have a code for these people. so, this seems like a no-brainer. again, the problem is you have this republican party that is so dug in that even though the american people >> -- i mean, remember, the court is very unpopular right now. it's probably the most unpopular it has been for many decades. but this republican party does not really care about that. they just care about the -- >> right, and molly jong-fast, i'll stay with you. that's something senator durbin has pushed, to have these types of code and ethical norms. what type of impact do you think that that would have? >> i think it is a game-changer. and first of all, the idea that it was does not exist is so wild to me. yeah, i think it would be huge. i also think that --
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i personally think the supreme court should be term limited. that you could sort of -- i mean, there are ways to change the makeup of the court that are not necessarily adding more justices. and i think -- look, i don't think democrats are going to be in the position to do it now. but there may be a time when there are. and this court has so much power. they are already in the last session. they have overturned roe v. wade. this is their first session. it is huge. they took a right away from us that we have had for 50 years. they have also gutted the epa. and they are going after voting rights this session and they showed no slide of sowing down. >> dean, obviously, the supreme court were very efficient. they were very quick to launch an investigation after the leak of a draft decision overturning roe v. wade. and yet it seems unclear if the same thing is going to happen with this 2014 lead. why do you think that is? >> it is remarkable.
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and it's a great question. i had congressman hank johnson my radio show earlier to talk about this. him and sheldon whitehouse -- the chief justice, going, you have known about this for months. and you have been silent. and you have not talked about it in any way and you know what is even more? remarkable all the other federal judges are covered by code of ethics, except for the supreme court. -- they are controlled by a federal statute. the supreme court is not. and tamales point, the -- has supreme court down to 20 or 25%. the lowest ever in gallup polling and earlier in this year, chief justice roberts felt concerned about legitimacy of the court, because people criticize the court. how about have some ethics rules? don't take women's fundamental rights away. how about that? and those strike out state gun laws in the same week. so, if chief justice roberts is concerned about legitimacy of the court, you do your own ethics rules or congress has to act. and again, republicans won't overcome a filibuster in the
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senate to do the right thing. >> yeah, at the heart of this discussion is, there has to be a matter of accountability. how do you hold the supreme court accountable? and if democrats to win the georgia runoff, they will have a better chance -- what is the importance of that? >> it seems wild to me that the other two branches of government have so many roles, so many ethics, and this -- most important, the highest court in the entire countries look up to us -- but seeing the importance of this, it's my life. if we do not pass a daca, a dream act, anything immigration in the lame duck session, my life will be decided, likely by these courts for the next however many years. and it continues to be wild to me that americans don't realize how the court has been hijacked. the court has been taking bipartisanship. -- 20 or 30 years ago.
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the court is completely radical. it's not something we can even recognize. and so being able to take it over, being able to get those 51 senators. and that's why it is so important that we not take our eyes off of georgia, that the organizing continues. but going back to the very beginning of your entire show is, that democrats need to realize that the race for 2024 started a month ago. it started two months ago. it started in getting on the ground in our communities and making sure that they are actually listening to voters, listening -- i live in nevada. nevada, we are latino voters. are consistently coming out to vote -- black voters, black voters, everyone is coming out to vote because we want to make sure that these things are done for our communities and that is going to be the bottom line, no matter what, that these voices need to be heard and every single one of our branches of government. >> it's a matter of how do we go from here and how do we reinstate confidence and public trust in this incredibly important institution. -- , molly and dean obeidallah, thank you so much for joining us tonight. and thank you to you.
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