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show. live for miami,. florida we have got lots of news to cover and lots of questions to answer so let's get started. donald trump does not want to talk about his meeting with an infamous white nationalist, but that white nationalist sure does. what we have learned in the last 24 hours about what really happens during the dinner that sets trump's 2024 into. panic speaking of 2020, for where exactly to president biden other high-profile democrats stand? i will break down all the news surrounding the 2024 race with my power political panel. plus, this week could bring the return of nearly all suspended accounts on twitter. on top, with the head of the anti defamation league about why did elon musk's latest new could be particularly dangerous in our current climate. and the, later life on mars might not just be a great david bowie song. what the mars rover has discovered about the red planet. plus, are we betting off more than we country when it comes to the future of space travel?

all of that and more is coming up. and they're good sunday morning to you. i am katie fang. president biden mike spending the holiday weekend and nantucket cannot escape questions about 2024 and whether he has talked to his family about his political future. >> mister president, how we are 2024 conversations going? >> -- >> biden said earlier that this month he plans to run for reelection but will make a final decision by early next year. well this comes as california governor gavin newsom's told politico that he will not challenge biden for the democratic nomination and is, quote, all in for biden. for more we will turn to ali vitali.

>> hey, my friend, good morning. if we are looking at what this might look like for 2024 it is clear that for democrats they are starting to clear the field especially when biden says that he will actively be pursuing reelection bid or that least that is the plan. it really does freeze the rest of the field in. place especially when you look to the vice president kamala harris. somebody who people widely it wonder what the show making the run for the presidency. she of course will not do that if she's running with the current sitting president. that's just one of the pieces,. here look at the country and other governors who may have taken a plus charge, gavin newsom was one of. them actively talking about the, fact over the course of the midterm elections, that he wanted to see better national leadership problem democrats. also challenging people like ron desantis on flying migrants to nantucket. all of those key things trying to effectively nationalize the profile that he he had in the. party now is telling jonathan

martin that he's not going to. run we saw something similar from gretchen whitmer. saying that she does not want to run for president in 2024. what it does is freezes the rest of the field in. place you and i have watched biden for a really long time. we know that when he says a decision is coming early next year, that could mean any number of months. january through. april it is not necessarily that the decision is. immigrant imminent. on the democrats side things seem pretty stark. it is really on the republican side of things are starting to take. shape former president donald trump already announcing his bid and that is really the starting bell there. there is so much conversation around other people like governor ron desantis who has the potential air apparent. so 2020, for even though we're still in 2020, two with still a second -- left and called in the runoff still to be, ron we are still already skipping ahead to the 2024 presidential cycle. because a shudder primary has been happening over the course

of the last two years already. >> i'll, a really quick question for you. do you think because there is that runoff coming up that it is a bit premature to be having all of these conversations about a 2024 race? >> yes and snow. you and i both know i love presidential politics. but i think at the same time, for most americans i remember voting in iowa mind 20, 19 the first week of iowa, asking people about the presidential election. and while i owens were aware that it was happening in that people have been already coming to their state, trying to build our profile, at the same time they were, like can we just take a beat? and i think that might be where most of america's. certainly the operative donor class and all of these political parties, their luck to have their ducks in a row early. if you want to build a paid presidential campaign with talent, you already have those conversations. that is true for people thinking about, running say they are, running all these conversations already

happening. it's just the question whether we are emotionally ready to move on to that face of politics. then the calendar returns, we'll get into 2024. but, certainly it is happening. >> well, i think, with anything with politics, especially with you early with hallie, we will be walking at the same. time thank you, ali. retaliate joining us live this. morning now, we will turn to breaking news out of atlanta. where police are investigating a deadly shooting near a popular shopping center saturday night. officers say that at least one person was killed and five others are in charge, with all of the victims believed to be between the ages of 15 and 21 years old. >> group of juveniles were a score to off of their properties by off-duty atlanta police officers and atlantic station personnel. the crew moved off to the 17th street, where this occurred.

it escalated gunfire. >> police say they are still working to determine what exactly happened. we will keep you updated as we get new details. now it will turn to toronto airport to suffer up to the across the country and in response to chinese president xi jinping's draconian zero covid policies. they won thing unrest is said to be a test for president g who began serving a norm breaking third term last month. for more on all of, this we turn to nbc news correspondent raf sanchez. >> the weight of protest sweeping china has reached the streets of shanghai. in the country's largest city, demonstrators and again -- demanding an end to covid lockdowns and openly calling for the régis resignation of leader jinping. protests led to, unrest but they're not sure if they can stop it is now a national outcry.

yang, authorities in hazmat suit trying to hold their ground against crowds and families trainers. the spark for the protesters was a deadly apartment fire on friday night that killed ten people, including three kids. videos on social media appearing to show emergency crews slow down by covid messes around the high-rise. it took three hours to put out the flames. residents, many lockdown for three months, were trapped. eugene jinping has never faced public anger on this scale in his ten years in power. chinese government had tried tweaking covid rules. with cases now at a record high they are bearing down once again impression hopes of a gradual reopening. and zhengzhou this week there were clashes of the foxconn factory, making iphones. videos out social media showed crowds and police shoving workers, angry about brown's pay and covid rules at the plant. foxconn apologized, and gave payers to workers wanting to leave. forcing apple to warn that

output will take a hit. the future of china's covid policy now attested will between the people and the governments. >> our thanks to raf sanchez. this morning millions of travelers are heading back home from the holiday weekend and severe weather is expected to cause delays. the national weather service reports of heavy rain and winds could impact travel in major cities, from chicago to new york. it is a recipe for disaster and one of the busiest travel days of the year. nbc news correspondent emily al-qaeda has the latest from newark liberty international airport in new jersey. >> hey there, katie. even at this early hour i saw lines coming into newark liberty international airport this morning. as millions of americans gear up to head home after celebrating the thanksgiving holiday with family and friends. many u.s. over the first time in several, years you're more comfortable to get it and travel with evading the

pandemic. aaa estimates some 55 million americans got out for the thanksgiving holiday. the majority of those getting behind the, we'll despite the higher price to fill up their gas tank compared this time last year. we saw some relief in the past month of price for pound dropping roughly 20. sense some good news there. if you are taking to the skies, be prepared to experience crowded flights. that is because air travel is up some 8% this thanksgiving holiday season. you may have gotten a smooth trip to your thanksgiving destination but experts say to be worn. you could experience a bumpy or one. that is because we are seeing this wall of rain that first hit the south east plains even spinning up a tornado in louisiana and now moving orth. north. to the impacts a major air flows and slow down some -- in the. northeast if your flight is disrupted there are few things to keep in. mind check to see if your credit card offers any kind of trip protections. also consider calling the

airline international hotline for faster service. if you are heading out on the road. you want to try to leave in the early morning hours or late evening hours. try to avoid that midday span, especially in the infamously clogged regions like atlanta, new york city, chicago, or l.a.. , as katie, so many are gearing up for this big holiday exodus to return. home, katie back to you. >> awe thanks to emily al-qaeda for those of you who are traveling. we wish you the best of luck today. and coming up, was donald trump very taken with a holocaust denying white nationalist? nick fuentes confirms reporting the details a dinner he had with the ex presidents. and kanye west at mar-a-lago. those details have trump's team in a tailspin. my power political panelists here and we are going to break it all down. it all down.

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still have not heard anything in the way of contrition from donald trump for breaking bread at mar-a-lago on tuesday with nick fuentes, a known antisemite and white nationalist. all trumps i was and he did not know who he was. meanwhile, fuentes is all talk. in a live stream of the far-right holocaust denier confirmed details outlying in this axios article that trump was, quote, very taken with fuentes. it was apparently very impressed that he could rattle of statistics and remember trump's speeches from six years ago. the 24-year-old had some advice for trump, to. recommending the trump go back to being unrestrained in his speeches and that his 2024 announcement speech was not the trump fought styled his base wanted -- and. and, apparently at one point trump turned to the other dinner guest, kanye west and said, quote, i really like this guy. he gets. me that says it, all doesn't? it president biden weighed in,

take a listen. >> mister president, what do you think of donald trump having dinner with a white nationalist? >> -- >> in a statement, deputy white house press secretary andrew bates said, quote, bigotry hate and antisemitism have absolutely no place in america. including at mar-a-lago. holocaust in aisle is repugnant and dangerous and it must be forcefully condemn. we have lots to talk about. here i am glad to welcome my sunday worn morning power political panel. so michael singleton is a political, consulting former republican contributor to the boston globe. crystal vault alex is a former senior adviser to the biden campaign, the former president of the latino victory project, and an msnbc political analyst. gentlemen, good morning. thank you for being. here for michael, i will start

with. you let's assume that donald trump is telling the truth that he did not know who nick fuentes was well at that dinner. what does it say to you that trump has yet to distance himself or disavow any further connection with fuentes now that he knows who he is and what he stands for? >> i mean this is par in the course for donald trump remember charlottesville and david duke? i am not surprised by this at all, katie but i will say that i have several advisers to the former president, and let me tell, you they are not very happy about this. this is not what they want to be focusing on. they are trying to build a campaign operation. they would rather be trying to take messaging and policy dispositions coming into the new year. and not, this because of the conversations that i've already had with my former close friends. they, say here we go again. he is just not being disciplined. and it is causing a lot of headaches for the individuals close to the former president. >> krista vought, to sir michael's point, the headaches

they're being caused by the people with whom trump's associating. a longtime trump advisor is telling nbc news that the situation is a, quote, nightmare. it does not seem like trump's team has on the ability to gatekeeper he brings to mar-a-lago. do you think we will see more of these nightmares, and what can the biden administration or top top democrats do to spin this in their favor right now? >> good. morning it is great to be back with you. i do think we are going to see a lot more of. this as you just, her this is par for the course for donald trump. think about it this way. he has a dinner and answer some eyes, 20 west, come. over here is nick fuentes come over. and he calls it an eventful. an eventful for trump because that is a sort of person he is. when i was a kid, my grandma had a saying. -- tell me who you walk with and who you stand with i will tell you who you are. we've already seen who donald trump is. both with the david duke piece and the star charlottesville comment that both sides are fine people. in, fact there is a question

that i think i have which is what joe biden be president today forewarned for donald trump's behavior and especially his comments in charlottesville after the unite the right rally? and i say that because that really sparked for joe biden his process about whether he should run for president and really that is what got him to this battle for the soul of the nation's campaign slogan and true belief that he has got. and to your earlier guest in the discussion about when joe biden will decide to run. well he will take his time. but this will definitely factor into it and it is something that really touched joe biden in he will speak more about it and i think leadership across the democratic party needs to be very forceful and pushing back against this type of hatred we cannot have this be a normal thing again as we had before with donald trump. >> krista bald, quickly before i go back to sure michael let's talk about that timing. you worried adviser to president biden.

what do you think could be the best advice that you would give him in terms of how to capitalize on announcing if he is going to officially make a run for the 2024 opal office again? >> i really appreciated when he was in nantucket this weekend saying i'm here with my family. he is very much a family person that he will get to that question when he gets to that question. i remember working for. and he was saying if i found that you missed a family event like a birthday or an anniversary, something important, for your family, because you are working either you will be a big trouble. so he will take his time and be thoughtful about it but while he does that let me just say that there is a lot of other activity happening just below the surface of the water. to build what will be a juggernaut campaign. part of that is the democratic national committee, which i think is the strongest dnc we've ever seen. donors are lined up, they are ready to go. you see the other candidates are getting behind joe. biden other potential candidate somebody's been interested in running are getting behind them, accordingly. and i think they will have plenty of time to sharpen the

campaign. it really sharpen their message and contrast. about uniting the country, which is what joe biden has done. what we are seeing here is an attempt to almost unite the right again. with the trump pointers reunion. >> sure michael california governor gavin newsom has been pretty open about his national ambitions and obviously we know his name has been bandied about for a while as a possible run for the-able oval office but politico is reporting now that he is told biden directly that he will not challenge the incumbent president in 2024 and it will support biden if he runs for reelection. field it looks like he is clearing out for a biden reelection bid. is it better politics, though, shermichael, for democrats to keep their heads, down get the job done, and keep any questions about who is the 2024 nominee out of the spotlight right now? >> i don't think it really matters. i think democrats do is exceptionally well in midterms and they maintain control of the senate.

you look at the house and while republicans did not regain control marchand was very sit slim and democrats are very competitive or practically every single race. for my disposition as a former's strategist if i was a democrat i would be thinking that everything is on my side and for the most part we have momentum and want to maintain that momentum. i think trump is a blessing in disguise and is in part why many of my friends that i have lunch with and d.c. often as republican strategist we all discussed the fact that nobody wants donald trump because he does give democrats an opportunity to remind swing voters and suburban voters and even some of those moderate republicans who voted for president biden and even some democrats in this most recent midterm why they need to stick for biden going into 2024 it's not donald trump. from a republican disposition there is a serious liability there and the party clearly wants to move in a new direction. they have the internal polling that showcases of donald trump were to move he could not get

enough between urban voters and suburban voters and would literally 7% of moderate leading republicans. if you are a democrat or president biden, i don't think there's anything wrong with coalescing around the president. i don't think there's anything wrong with saying he is very likely going to be our guy and i think you want to build that momentum an expectation as early as possible with donors and with your activist base. so that everyone can begin the process of building the necessary steps going into 2023 and beyond. >> cristobal, how much do you think the announcement by donald trump that he is going to run for the oval office again has created a situation within which we see somebody like gavin newsom, whose name was definitely forefront as possible competitors saying i am out. do you think the trump announcement influence the fact that perhaps joe biden who beat donald trump is going to try to do that again on behalf of the democrats? >> i don't think the trump announcement had an impact on

folks who were considering potentially running for the democratic nomination because let's face that there is going to be somebody with a giant ego and maybe a screws who decides on with a throw my hat in the ring and run against joe biden in the primary. , again i think they'll be absolutely crazy. we have the most successful democratic presidents since lbj just in terms of looking at milestone legislation that has been passed. the most successful midterm in modern history. great work abroad to uniting the world against russia and supporting democracy in the ukraine. so it would be absurd to somebody's to step up and decide to challenge the president. that being said, there is work to do to make sure that our message as democrats is extremely tight. and that would create an echo timber and then we begin to raise the resources that will be needed for a multi billion dollar campaign. , again to defeat donald trump or whoever it is if we take a country in the wrong direction.

those, conversations i, know among high-level donors and strategist are already happening. and unlike a democratic primary that we saw leading up to 2020 where you had 20 different candidates, you have the incumbent president. so you have all the staff and the talent coming to joe biden. >> sure michael singleton. and -- alex at my power political panel this morning. i want to thank you so much for being. here >> thank you so, much katie. >> and coming up, another chapter in the twitter chaos. as elon musk gets sent to reinstate accounts for some of the worst of the worst. and how the anti defamation league is sounding the alarm the adl's greenblatt gets into it next. 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today.

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users. 3 million votes were cast one mosque posted a poll, asking whether to grant amnesty to suspended accounts. as long as they have not, quote, broken a law or engaged in the egregious scam. 22% voted yes although it is unclear how many of those votes came from bots. that means this week we very well could see the reinstatement of the afro mentioned white supremacist nick fuentes, former kkk leader david duke, conspiracy theorist alex jones, and infamous misogynists andrew tate. this comes one week after musk brought back donald trump's twitter account which has been banned just after january six foreign citing violence. masks free speech campaign has been one of his main priorities. he first floated the idea of taking over the company back in spring but now it appears as though he is trying to justify it. just last night when sharing this slide on tour there he was showing that hate speech has allegedly gone down on the absences takeover.

nbc news has not independently verified that information but the center for countering digital hate is reporting that there has been an increase in racist antisemitic and other toxic speech on the platform. including the fact that twitter failed to act on 99% of racist tweets directed at soccer players leading up to the world cup. let's not forget that a large number of the contractors responsible for content moderation were either let go or resigned in the chaos that ensued sense mask took over. joining me now is the ceo and national director of the atl, jonathan greenblatt. jonathan it is always so good to see you and we have some tough times going on right now. the adl has warned that there will be dire consequences once this twitter undersea rolls out this week and you are some of the names that i just listed an intro to your interview can you explain more what those consequences could look like? >> katie, it is good to see you,

as. well i would say that it is rather starting to think at this point in the process in terms of elon's acquisition of a new management of twitter, that for someone who said he did not want the site to defend into descend into a house cape that it appears that he is ready to open those gates to hail. the reason why those accounts were suspended over the years is because of disinformation and bigotry and hate which these people were pouring forth onto the surface. so as i think about where we are in america today we have a presidential candidate dining with unrepentant antisemites and bigots, last weekend we had an antisemitic attack in new york city which was averted by the quick action of the fbi. we are still mourning the people who were shot in cold blood in colorado springs and now we have what elon musk said he wanted to be the public square, prepared to be a place

where prejudice runs amok. so i will be really honest katie. i am someone who is cautiously optimistic with elon's reforms. he solve big problems in the past. but this notion that it is somehow free speech to allow slander and incitement on the platform is something i simply do not agree with. i think most americans do not agree with it. and he runs the risk of really jeopardizing what twitter once was. >> yeah, you know, i myself am an avid twitter user. i have seen how it has deteriorated in terms of the quality of the content that has been there. what is the adl doing specifically when it comes to social media platforms to either educate or warren or maybe assist in some way to try to get the reins and on the u.s.? to be able to put it under control if that's even possible? >> that is such a great question into the atl as a percentage of technology in society which works actively

with all of the companies of silicon valley from apple to zoom, from amazon to microsoft. to meta. and, indeed it to twitter. we've dealt with him for. years tackling the challenge of hate speech on their service. we play things out, we share information. but what we have seen again and again and again, and i have the privilege of speaking directly to a lot of here times, is that the reason why we are so concerned is because we think twitter is such a consequential service and we are allowing people who created the toxicity on the platform that led to real word world violence. keep in mind that the conspiracy theories that dominated on twitter for so long exploded in places like pittsburgh and poway and el paso and of course ultimately in washington, d.c., on january the 6th. so well i would say very clearly is to you as i told elon musk and others, we need

these companies to engage constructively and smartly. users of asian to tackle hate speech. i see the chart you put up contradicts what we are seeing it adl. we have seen anti-met some other speeches stay up longer than that before. we have been indicating an obscene toxic content. it is not coming down nearly as quickly as in the past. and considering that human resources have been massively depleting in the company, that would seem to figure a little large as to why it is happening today. look, at the end of the day, katie, adl and i think some of us want to twitter to work for all of its users. for journalists like yourself and watchdogs like my organization. for the whole country. tackling hate speech needs to be all of our commitment because freedom of speech is not the freedom to slander people,. katie freedom of expression should not be the freedom to incite violence.

that should not be okay no matter who is running the company. >> jonathan, i have less than 30 seconds. i want to get your opinion on donald trump's mar-a-lago dinner earlier this week. what does it tell you the trump is hosting not only kanye west, we know as recently made many antisemitic comments, but nick fuentes, of all people? a holocaust denier, white supremacist, question nationalist. go ahead. >> yes, i mean. i think he is showing the world and demonstrating the demonstrably white nationalist -- in. history it is remarkably undignified for a former president to be hosting such haters in his home in that suggested he publicly does not know any better. if he does not know any better, fully once, shame on me. fool me, twice shame on me. we learned who david duke was. we should learn today that this is who donald trump. is i think it is unacceptable. whether you are republican or

democrat. to embrace antisemitism in any form. or any form of. hate >> last thing i will, say. jonathan if you will go to the atl website that you have the statistics. last year there were more than 120 instances of antisemitic hate. still skyrocketing. important to have people like you here to have this conversation. thank you. i always thank you for taking the time to join us. >> thanks, katie. happy thanksgiving. >> thanks. coming up, georgia runoff states are so high that both sides are bringing out the big guns as campaigning heats up. we will break it all down as early voters are heading to the polls this weekend. polls this weekend asy-order platters and lunchboxes perfect for any party. pool parties... tailgates... holiday parties... even retirement parties. man, i love parties. subway keeps refreshing and refreshing

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the countdown is on to the crucial runoff in georgia for the united states senate. we are just over a week away from the runoff between -- in a real economically herschel walker. what democrats have already won control of the senate, holding on to the warnock c could make their lives a whole lot easier. 51 seat majority would give the democrats an extra seat on each committee. making it easier to legislate and confirm nominees including in charges. and control investigations. plus it would weaken the power of any one individual democratic senator. like joe manchin or kyrsten sinema. to derail the process. emblematic of the high stakes's newly reelected governor brian

kemp. now starring in an ad to boost walker after refusing to campaign with him during the general election. the democrats are also pulling out the big guns and for president obama returning to the state of georgia to campaign alongside raphael warnock on the thursday. for more on all of this i'm joined by former georgia state senator and democratic candidate for attorney general of georgia, john. jordan dan my friend there that was so good to see you. you know the people of georgia so well. do you think that they understand how important the senate runoff is to both parties? or do you think maybe there is some election fatigue going on? this is the fourth fourth race for the same seat in two years. >> good morning, and katie. there is a fatigue. i'm tired just thinking about. it it is so incredibly important. and i think specifically with democratic voters, what we saw yesterday in terms of saturday voting, the lines were crazy.

all in democratic stronghold counties. because a lot of the republican counties chose not to do saturday, voting even though the high court let it move forward. even after republicans came in and tried to stop. it hopefully people just need to keep showing up to keep roads are. >> in the general election he was able to defeat his opponent by more than seven. points while herschel walker trailed warnock by about one point. is camps backing of walker really going to make a difference to voters and theo come of this race? >> i do not think. so if they were going to vote for herschel walker just because he was a republican then they would have done it the first time around. walker's real problem is that he failed to get about 200,000 republican votes that governor kemp got. that is a real issue. because we know with respect to run off turn the, road it is

all about energy. if people are excited about you as a candidate, especially with so much election fatty, they're not gonna show up with herschel walker the mother who brings into the state. >> switching gears slightly and especially because i have you here, senator lindsey graham testifies before georgia special grand jury this past. week the grand jury investigating efforts by donald trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election results. fulton county prosecutors are wanting to question lizzy graham about phone calls he made to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger in the weeks after the election. jan, should lindsey graham be worried about his legal exposure? >> yes. they all should be. look, the way that the district attorney in fulton county has been putting together this case, brick-by-brick, clearly from my perspective it looks like they're trying to build a rico. case that is really problematic for anybody who is involved. that is the whole point with rico.

if you are just kind of, one of the bricks, one of the causes, one of the people who did something to move the conspiracy along, and you are gonna get called up an. it the district attorney has been very very serious about this. if i were lindsey, graham if i were any of these folks, rudy giuliani, i would be incredibly worried. >> you yourself testified before the fulton county special grand jury back in june. because you witnessed the actual crimes being committed by people like rudy giuliani. how soon do you think we could possibly see indictments from district attorney fani willis in this investigation? >> the way it is is a special grand jury so they will have to issue a report first and here in georgia this is kind of a weird thing that we have but a special grand jury can issue a report that will tell the district attorney give her a recommendation. and then you can move forward. so it will not be necessarily forthcoming from the grand jury itself but i think that the report will be incredibly

important in terms of laying out a very specifically the meaning of any kind of the elements of the events that she made and relieve her exactly where she needs to go. hopefully soon around a ventilator. i think everybody is ready for there to be some kind of resolution of this case. hopefully it will be by the end of the year. if not i would expect at least the first couple of months. of 2020. >> yeah. me too. i would expect maybe the first quarter of 2020. three former state senator of georgia, jen. jordan thank you so much for joining us. i'm happy when your for your bill to be on the show. thank you. >> coming up next, life on mars. it may not be a little green men, a nasa rover has dug up some intriguing clues about the red planet's. when that might have been like three billion years ago. we will get into the big discovery coming up next. y coming up next ever leave your clothes in the dryer

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the last 31 days. i gotta make water and grow food on the planet with nothing grows. if i can figure it a way to make contact with nasa the none of this matters anyway. >> i've got an incoming message. >> oh my god. -- it's still alive. >> in your, face neil armstrong. >> this week's big nurse marcia move might not be on the level of matt damon growing food in space. but some latest findings from nasa tell us that simple forms of life may have existed on the right play about 3.8 billion years ago. nasa's perseverance rover just saga rocks that show signs that the planet had water in the past. and organic molecules that are a key ingredient for life.

the rover has been exploring mars for almost two years now. and eventually its samples will be returned back here on earth. nasa and the european space agency plan to of their vehicle tomorrow to launch the samples into orbit. and then a spacecraft would carry the back to earth. all of this focus on morris's tied to the relatively young field of astrologically. which focuses on the search for life in space, and potentially habitable worlds beyond earth. here to answer all of our burning questions, the editor in chief of space.com. i know he is the perfect guest because he has been to space camp. five times. all kidding aside, i know that you are going to be able to help us understand why these rock samples of the perseverance rover drug dug up are so important. and what it means for us earthlings. >> katie, this is really exciting because the perseverance rover the nasa built is the most advanced most capable car sized rover we have

ever sent to the red planet. and that question has always been there. is there life on mars now and was there ever life there in the pass and what can they tell us a bit of special earth is where we see life everywhere? what we discovered three separate studies that came out at the same time show that they have confirmed that this place where perseverance has been rolling around was awash in water on earth. everywhere there is water there is a life and they found hints of the building blocks of life as these organic molecules that are locked in the rocks that the rover is fighting. and this is probably the most exciting part he is collected those samples. and store them away so that eventually we will get them back to earth and scientist can crack them open and hopefully answer that question once and for all of was their life on mars. >> there is another big space headline just about 24 hours ago. nasa's orion spacecraft which

is part of the artemis program set a new record for the farthest distance from earth traveled by a spacecraft designed to carry humans to deep space and to safely return to earth. is this a sign of bigger things to come for the artemis program? >> i think what this shows is that nasa's big test flight of the orion spacecraft is the new moon shaped that they cast to mars hopefully as soon as 2024 there will be astronauts landing on the moon in 2025. on a separate lander. it seems like they are tracking all of their boxes. they are setting new records now the farthest distance is going to get even farther until this as it goes further and it is a really long orbits. there are a lot of milestones to go and you get that spacecraft back. the biggest heat shield ever will be coming in much more harshly than the apollo

capsules and so there is still some urged to go. but so far everything seems to be going well and the big question is -- >> i have less than a minute left but i do have to ask. because as we speak, during this, our spacex's dragon craft is talking with the international space station to deliver supplies like tomato seeds. what can you tell us about what is happening right now? >> very busy in space. this is just part of what life spaces. like astronauts on the international space station needs supplies and spacex is one of the two companies that flies those missions for nasa and the drive with over three and a half tons. some tomato seeds which have been used to grow as well as test their exposure to the space environments. also has new solar rays for spacewalks here and food and sometimes there's ice cream in the freezer. and the astronauts really enjoy that. it is just something they need

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