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with a story that has to be so wound up, though and one of my producers flagged it last week i was away. i responded in an email, quote, it is outrageous, i just want to be on tv to discuss this. with all the simmering and serious geopolitical conflict involving the united states. but to get their, i want to go back to october the 2nd, 2018, when the washington post columnist, jamal khashoggi, it was murdered by saudi arabia agents in the consulate in istanbul, turkey. the cia and other foreign intelligence agencies concluded that the brutal assassination was in fact ordered by the saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman, mbs for short. although, mbs devise any involvement. a widespread saudi cover-up ensued. while there is some slight slap on the wrist repercussions for the kingdom, mbs has never been held to account. now, it appears he may never held to account by the united states and decision that prompted my outrageous email. the biden ministration has

decided to grant immunity to mbs from u.s. lawsuits, including his role in the murder. he is now the saudi arabian prime minister, in addition to being the crown prince. that is notable because that's what the biden administration sites for its decision. essentially saying that because mbs is a head of government, he is shielded from being held legally accountable for his actions relating to khashoggi's killing. the state department says that this is a long-standing u.s. president. but almost like an observed form of diplomatic immunity. like i said, it's outrageous. it is also profoundly dangerous. it is also the exact opposite of what joe biden promised on the campaign trail, to make the kingdom of saudi arabia a, quote, pariah for khashoggi's murder and a litany of other human rights abuses. yet, president biden made one of his first foreign trips to saudi arabia, meet in person with mbs, even greeting him with a smiling fist bump. an image that did not go well, go over well around the world. now, this decision about

immunity comes after the united states in your perceived what is essentially a giant middle finger from saudi arabia and opec plus, which last month instituted a massive cut and oil production. artificially increasing the price of oil, adding to the pockets, not only of mbs in his kingdom, but of vladimir putin and russia as well. some say trying to put the thumb on the scale of american politics before the midterm elections to make biden and the democrats seem weaker. by the way, make no mistake, this relationship has been a pattern across american administrations of all stripes. the trump administration made it a point of being close to the saudis. and saudis warn yemen, which is a humanitarian catastrophe, it is led to the world's current worst famine, it began while president obama was an office. in fact, received u.s. support during that time. all the while, mbs remains on the world stage, watching his nations team at the world cup in qatar. seen prominently front and center next to the fifa

president. so, i want to discuss is going on in saudi arabia, what should be going on in saudi arabia. joining me now is bill, he's the head of the global justice campaign. he is the reason the magnitsky act exists, he was this man's lawyer. the magnets dias is meant to punish human rights abuses. he's also the ceo of -- he's the author of freezing order, a true story of russian money laundering, murder, and surviving vladimir putin's wrath. bill, good morning to you, thank you for being with us. i noticed when this happened that you tweeted out responding to the mbs immunity decision, very ugly and dangerous decision. obviously you're very close to -- one of the world's most prominent spokespeople on issues of human rights, i assume you are saying mbs and saudi arabia are human rights abusers. why is the u.s. seemingly okay with this? >> yeah, so, as you said, you

have a guy here who has murdered a critic, you know, in a foreign country, chopped up his body and the u.s. has evidence of this and we've given him a free pass. this is very dangerous, what it does is it says to him and two other dictators and autocrats around the world, if you are important for another reason, we're gonna give you a free pass. by the way, this is exactly what they did with vladimir putin for a 22 years, which gave him the greenlight effectively to invade ukraine. if you do this kind of stuff for dictators or murderous dictator's, they do more bad stuff. so, it is not just a bad thing for justice for jamal khashoggi, it's a bad thing for justice all-round to give this guy the green light to say, no problem, because your head of state, you can go around doing these horrific and terrible things, there will be no consequences. >> so, when you say that what we say to these leaders is that, if you're important for another

reason, do you mean another strategic reason or the head of state? it seems weird to give heads of state blanket immunity for doing bad things just because the heads of state. there can be good heads of state and bad heads of state. why should the mohammad bin salman, the fact that he's the prime minister make him more less immune than anyone else against charges if human rights violations? >> there should be no reason. he is, you know, backed by the definitions of the u.s. government. he's a murderer, and as a murderer, you know, that disqualifies him from any kind of immunity. he should face the consequences. as you mentioned, one of the reasons why the u.s. has been going and treading lightly with this guy is because of the war in russia, the oil price being high, and wanting more oil. as you also mention, this guy has given the middle finger to us and the rest of the world by

cutting the supply of oil and pushing up the price of oil. so, you know, there is no other reason that i can think of why we should be giving him a free pass. he's a murderer, it's clear, it's been well-established. this idea that because he is [inaudible]. >> bill, we're about two weeks away from it being ten years since the magnitsky act was started, it obviously came into place at different times in different countries. how do you evaluate success as a tool for punishing human rights abusers? >> it's been an amazing tool in the sense that has scared dictators all over the world. there is more than 500 people and company sanctions by the magnitsky act -- visas canceled, and it breeds the fear of don into them and everyone around them. by the way, it was intended to be used in, against the saudis,

against mbs and the murder of jamal khashoggi, there is a provision that allows senior senators to formally -- the government to sanction those people, the two senior senators in the sun or foreign relations committee asked, this is back in the trump administration, for mbs to be sanctioned. there is that silence, they basically broke the law and did not respond. this is the best example of somebody who should be sanctioned. by the way, this whole idea of immunity, it might apply to civil cases and u.s. court, but it absolutely does not apply in any way to the magnitsky act, the u.s. can and should sanction mbs under the magnitsky act for what he's done. >> okay, this is an interesting point you make. in other words, this is a court protection, u.s. courts, somebody cannot sue mbs in u.s. courts for what he's done because he's the head of state. but the magnitsky act doesn't operate within that system? >> mondale, it is totally

within their judgment, and there is no restrictions, there is no hands tied behind their backs, there's no formalistic's to off that they turn to. they can easily slip sanctioned him under the magnitsky act, if they did, it'll tie him up in knots. he has assets all over the world, he would not have access to all's bank accounts, he couldn't visit his yacht, so on and so forth. this is a very powerful tool. he was desperately scared [inaudible] the trump administration on this is all being considered. this could easily be resurfaced and used on mohammed bin salman, i think it should be. >> on april 10th of this year, bill, as you recall, i was in lviv, ukraine. i interviewed volodymyr carr mosca, who had returned to russia. i said to him at the end of the interview i said, i'm scared for you, he said, this is where i need to be. the very next day, he was

obviously in violation of the law talking about a war there in a lot to call a warned russia, he was arrested the next day. you tweeted out, just reminded everyone that all these months later, vladimir remains in prison in russia. >> yeah, vladimir is in, he is now facing 24 years in prison for, quote, treason for basically calling the war and speaking about human rights and russia, vladimir kara-murza is a victim, he should be released. by the way, the canadian government has recently sanctioned the people -- under the canadian magnitsky act, i would be for the rest of the same thing. >> phil, thanks for joining us this morning. i appreciate always. the head of the magnitsky act campaign, he's the ceo of -- he's the author of freezing order, a true story of russian money laundering, murder, and surviving vladimir putin's wrath. he's also the author of the best selling novel, red notice. --

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2020. thanksgiving, but your home is not buzzing with its normal holiday energy, a global pandemic has ground your time honored holiday transitions to a halt. you sacrifice time of the family to keep a loved one saves. unpleasant memories from a couple years ago, believe come a long way, we're now entering our third holiday season in covid times. we seem, touch much would, to have this thing figured out. many of us got vaccinated, boosted, we continue to follow testing, and masking guidelines were necessary. and this holiday season is shaping up to be nothing like the last two, it feels almost like it's back to normal. we have a special group of people think that. for nearly three years we've relied on doctor spring's trusted and valuable information about an unprecedented pandemic. we turn on our tvs and welcomed these doctors into our homes, we share their videos on social

media, we send them to her friends and family. here on velshi, we relied on more than a handful of dependable medical minds to communicate the dangers of the coronavirus and to drill down the importance of getting vaccinated. we watched the birth of a new generation of tv doctors, real physicians, who literally walked off their hospital wards, found an empty space, turned on zoom, or skype, or face time on their phones, and exposed the horrors of the pandemic to the nation. they were saving lives in the hospital and with every interview in which they participated. those physicians had a blueprint to work off of. and his name is dr. anthony fauci, known as america's doctor because of his personal unrelated bill way in which he is engaged with the public for decades. he's one of the few scientists that just about every american known by name, by face, and by his distinctive brooklyn accent. fauci has been the government's top infectious disease physician, director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases for 38

years. before the coronavirus pandemic, fauci was known for leading the nation through another crisis, the aids epidemic. as youthful physician and medical doctor, but she helped martial a scientific response that help save millions of lives and his approach was surprising, it refreshing for someone in the government roll. this strategy was to engage directly with aids patients and with activists who felt they were not getting the answers they needed. >> we don't know a lot about its, but we also know an incredible amount about it from my experience over the past three or four years. and hopefully, our recent advances of being able to isolate, identify, and characterize the agent, together with the advances and understanding the natural history and pat of physiology of this disease will allow us over the next year to come back to you and tell you that we now not only have hope and hypothesis, but that we have a real prevention and indeed a

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it made him a target of conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxers, and the former president himself. but fauci never strayed from the truth or to his staunch commitment to science. after serving under seven presidents, last week, doctor anthony fauci gave it is likely to be his last press conference from the podium of the white house press briefing room. >> all other people judge the value or not of my accomplishments. what i would like people to remember about what i've done is that every day for all of those years i've given it everything that i have, i never left anything on the field. so, if they want to remember me, whether they judge rightly or wrongly what i've done, i gave it all i got. >> gave it all he got. after decades of public service, fauci will step down from his role in the federal government in the next few weeks. so, today, we say thank you to doctor fauci for his tireless and often thankless years as americas doctor. and to some of the doctors who came to know and trust on velshi over the last three years, ashish jha, nahid

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deadline for arizona to certify the results of the 2022 midterm elections. but in true arizona fashion, multiple election denying republican candidates in the state are making noise to further disrupts the electoral process. their main target is maricopa county, which spends the phoenix area.

after losing earlier this month, kari lake, the trump backed republican candidate for governor followed a lawsuit last week against a get election officials in the county, claiming that election laws were violated. lake is also demanding information about election day printer issues the county, which she said frustrated voters and lead to huge delays. maricopa county officials acknowledged there were technical difficulties with printers at some polling stations, but the issues are fixed before polls closed and they insist voters had multiple options for casting votes. according to nbc's count democrat, katie hobbs best late by a little more than 17,000 votes earlier this month. the same day like fall that lawsuit, the current republican governor, arizona's governor doug doocy met with the governor elect to ensure a smooth transition of power. in a statement issued on wednesday he wrote, quote, today congratulated governor elect katie hobbs on her victory in a hard-fought race and offered my full cooperation as she prepares to assume the leadership of the state of arizona. all of us have waited patiently

for the democratic process to play out. the people of arizona have spoken, their votes have been counted, and we respect their decision, and quote. remember, this is the outgoing republican governor, the woman who ran to replace him as a republican does not share those views, neither does a prominent, he's that election denying candidate for attorney general also filed a lawsuit this week, specifically with the merrick at the county superior court. he's suing his opponent, the democrat chris mei is along with state and county officials to blocked a morose or fixation. he's asking the court to declare him the winner is that the race still hasn't been called for either candidate. according to the nbc news decision desk, it's too close to, cauldron of mazes ahead of hamadeh by hundred and ten votes, so narrow that it automatically triggers a recount. joining me now is germ me he is a reporter with -- a veteran of arizona politics, a veteran reporter of arizona politics. he is the author of the book,

at this be treason, to the american robes and rebels who walked the line between dissent and betrayal. germany, good morning to you. thank you for joining us this morning. based on your reporting, what to expect to happen in the certification tomorrow the arizona election? >> what we expect to see tomorrow is, you know, nothing exceptional. they're going to maricopa county, i think if you're the counties will certify the election results and probably in that instance there will be undoubtedly some yelling and some anger from some folks who don't want them to do this, but you have to remember that this is statutorily required. the county boards of supervisors do not have a choice legally, they have to certify these election results by the 28. that has to be ready for the secretary of state's office to -- on december 5th. >> but the kari lake playbook is very much like the donald trump playbook. she laid the groundwork for saying that the election was not going to be valid long before a vote was cast. and now that is exactly what she's saying. she is refused to concede, she

is pointing to this maricopa county printer snafu. can you tell us a little bit about this? >> well, on election day, the county had 223 voting centers across the phoenix area, regardless of where you live you can go to any voting center, they will print out the ballot that is correct for you. at about 70 these locations they're having problems. they eventually figured out they were problems with the printer. the tabulation machines that the voters print their ballot, you fill out your ballot, you give it to the machine, you see it counted right there. those were not accepted into the ballots at about 70 of the 223 voting centers. what they eventually figured out was that the printer sightings or printing out the ink on some of the markings a little too lightly for the machines to read. took them a long time, you know, throughout the day to figure that out. once they figured it out, they got it fixed for the voters who ballots were not being accepted by the machines, they had the option of putting them in a separate box, dropbox, to have

them transported to the central election center to be counted later, or they could go to a different location. they're about 17,000 voters who put their ballots in this drop box known as door three. those were transported to be counted later by the central tabulators, which are little more technically advanced to read those ballots. >> the bottom line, this was a vote counting issue, everybody that his cast could be counted in a different fashion, and if someone didn't want to use that system, they could vote some rounds, it is not a voting issue? >> that is correct. i mean, there were certainly some folks who were, i mean, very wary of those instructions. these people, a lot of them, a lot of reason they're voting in person instead of voting early like most arizonans is that they don't really trust, they want to go there in person, the happen, so, i think some of these folks were certainly distraught when they were told that wasn't going to happen, they would have to have faith the ballots to be transported to the election center and counted later. some of those folks might have gotten turned away. >> what's katie hobbs roam this

whole thing? she is the existing secretary of state, kari lake is taking some issue with that, she wants the governor elect now, who she does it acknowledges the governor elect, to recuse herself from her role in administering the election. >> moving forward, katie hobbs's role as ministerial, -- again, just like the county boards and supervisors as required by law, she is not having discretion over it. her role prior to this as secretary of state has been top election official in the state, now, keep in mind that most of the actual election duties, these are administered by the counties, the counties that sent out ballots, collect ballots, count those ballots, secretary of state's role is again ministerial, now, kari lake had already for a while help to recuse herself because she was -- for governor. this would go against -- every incumbent secretary of state and runs for reelection, every secretary of state who's ever run for governor, which is a good number of them, has --

on election. legally, you know, secretary of state is required to make the requirement to recuse herself, no one ever brought court action anything asking for that to happen. >> jeremy, good to talk to this morning, think you for joining us from arizona. durham me is a reporter for access phoenix. georgia's second bill is just getting underway, early voting is starting in georgia senate runoff race between rafael warnock and herschel walker. my friend dr. william barber is on the ground in georgia. he joins us live from columbus, georgia, right after the break. a, right after the break it has long-lasting light scent, no heavy perfumes, and no dyes. finally, a light scent that lasts all day. downy light!

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polls in that early voter turnout is more important than ever. under the new georgia voting law, signed in 2021, the very controversial voting law, the period between the general election and a runoff is now reduced to four weeks from nine weeks. so, it has such a short window of time that voter turnout is critical. the secretary of state's office reported that at least 70,000 people voted early throughout georgia yesterday. efforts to drum up support for both candidates have intensified, including fundraising and campaigning. according to the new york times, quote, georgia democrats and republicans have a combined $38 million in the television ads, they've heard more than 700 additional field staffers, and have extended invitations to governors, senators, at least one former president ahead of election day and december 6th, and quote. the president, by the way, is barack obama, who is scheduled to campaign alongside senator raphael warnock again this thursday. the state's republican governor, brian kemp, has been stumping for herschel walker. kemp has been casting the runoff as a, quote, turnout election.

posing the question, who is more motivated, republicans or democrats? joining me to answer that question is the reverend dr. william barber, live in columbus, georgia, where later today he has a get out the vote event. he is the president of repairs of the breach, he's the court chair of the poor peoples campaign, which is announced, by the way, for the first time by dr. martin luther king at a staffer treat for the southern christian leadership conference, the sclc. mr. barber, good to see you, thank you for joining us. soon i had a great conversation yesterday about the importance of poor and low wage people, not just this election in georgia, but generally speaking in the midterm elections, particularly in the south. >> exactly right. now, that is why we're here, because this is not some data that you and i talk about, those people making under $30,000 a year voted 12 points higher for democrats during the exit polls. those making under $50,000 a year voted about 5% higher. there is not a state in this country where poor low wage

voters do not have at least 30% of the electorate, and then every state where the margin of victory is within 3%, poor voters have over 40% of the electorate. so, you cannot win by ignoring or low wage vote. for georgia, 1.2 million people here are uninsured, 1.9 million workers make less than $15 an hour, that's 47% of the workforce. you have to speak to them. 1 million voters in georgia did not for -- eligible, did not vote, the margin of victory in 2020, for instance, the president was only 150,000 votes. north carolina in 2020, 1 million or low wage people -- markers only 70,000. 645,000 poor voters did not vote in 2020, but the margin of victory was only 20,000. in arizona, in 2020, for instance, the number of poor and low income voters who did not vote was 756, 000, and the

margin was only 10,000 votes. so, you cannot ignore, that's one of the things we're saying that democrats and progressives, stop chasing the elusive suburban vote, but focus clearly and intensely on poor and low wealthy voters who tend to when they vote vote progressive if they're targeted. >> okay, so, there's two questions here. you spent all of your time around poor and low wage workers and voters. so, i guess the question, you say the democratic party needs to speak to them. but there are also actual impediments to them registering to vote and vote. so, what is the whole process of speaking to them through issues and campaigning and then getting them registered and then getting them to vote look like you? what is the democratic party perhaps not doing as well as you think they should be doing? >> well, one of the things, you have to actually say -- not call people average. you have to call their names, number one. you have to say then, if we get

elected, we are going to pass -- were gonna pass the voting rights act and restore it so that you don't have the impediments to vote. we are going to make sure that the issues that played on a daily basis happen. when democrats get an office, they have to fight for them, even if a couple of democrats and republicans blocked them, they need to keep fighting, keep fighting. i think democrats need to say, elect us, give us this majority, and we are gonna start, before christmas, before they turn over power, we are gonna have a vote on the voting rights act, we're gonna have a vote on minimum wages, we're gonna have a vote on women's right to choose, and we're gonna have a vote making sure that people have health care. but then we found out, the number one reason that poor low wage voters do not vote is that nobody talks to them, nobody goes door to door, nobody calls them, so, we actually have a program that in 15 states in the general election, we touch 5 million voters through calling him texting. we intend to touch every poor low wage worker in georgia

between now and december 6th. there is no way around it. you must touch people. and when you touch them, you must be clear about how if they vote for you, the policies that you will put in place will better their lives. poor people are saying this, all vote, they are not support, they are demands, their demands for public policy. >> is there evidence that in the last two years of the biden ministration a democratically-controlled house and senate that poor and low wealth priorities have been something that has resulted in legislation? do you think you can make the argument to low wealthy voters that stuff has happened free because of the democratic party? >> some, we can say some things, we point those things out that have happened with the american rescue plan, and the infrastructure bill. but we also have to be honest, the democrats have to acknowledge that it's not enough. the things that were left out of the bills, like living wage, if we had passed a living wage of $15, 55 million americans

would have been raised immediately from poverty in two, raised out of poverty, that did not happen. the voting rights acts have not been passed, to the john lewis for the people act has not been passed. so, what we have to do is be honest about what was passed. but i think people are ready, if they hear democrats say, vote for us, because we're gonna keep fighting for these things, we've said before the midterms, we call on democrats, a group of pastors that represented some 50 million people in this country. have a vote before the election on voting rights and not living wages. even if you lose the vote, the people need to see you fighting every day. what we cannot have isn't one vote on restoring the voting rights act and we quit. or one vote on living wages and we quit, or we can't pass child poverty tax credits and then let it go a different way, and not keep fighting for. the fight is as important as actually winning, the winning is ultimately the goal. how do you win? you recognize the poor and low

wealth voters are the sleeping giant in this country. they represent 30% of the election across the board and over 40% of the electorate in every state in the margin of victory has been within 3%. >> dr. william barr -- you have a lot of work ahead of you this morning, thank you for taking time to join us. william barber is the president and senior lecturer at repairs of the breeches, the co-chair of the poor peoples campaign. the supreme court's hearing arguments in a case that could overturn a federal law aimed at preventing native american children from being separated from their families. that seems sinister enough. but the case could also major consequences for native rights. explain after the break. plain after the break. we talked with my mom and was like, “hey do you think that we should do something like that for dad?” and she was like “you know what i think that would actually be really cool.” i figured this is a great holiday present since i won't be with him for christmas. it was the best gift that i ever received, in my entire life. because it opened up my life.

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tribes. for decades, if americans were stripped of their culture by cultural genocide. in 1920 a century -- was sent to burning residential schools and others were taken from their homes with tropical services. the goal was to force them to abandon their languages and cultural practices and native names. and essentially learn to be white. after generations of family separation, the indian child welfare act was in nafta to help. this the law says among other things that if the state decides a native child must be legally removed from their home then they must be placed with an american indian family or of possibly member of the child's extended family or tribe. it created best practices guideline for how to protect children when there is a cause to move them from their parents homes. well prioritizing their culture in. heritage of us for 2022, this supreme court case wants to dismantle the indian child

welfare act. they argue that icwa violates their constitutional rights and at least four different ways. one of the arguments is so encroaching that it could not only overturn icwa but up and the way of life for millions of americans who live on tribal land. the non-native plaintiffs say the law discriminates against them based on the race. after a quick break, i will explain why that very arguments could dissolve the ability for native tribes to govern themselves. and it icwa goes down, the native land rights, border rights, and health care could go down with it. go down with it. [buzz] you can always spot a first timer. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. ♪♪ choosing miracle-ear was a great decision. like when i decided to host family movie nights. miracle-ear made it easy. i just booked an appointment and a certified hearing care professional evaluated my hearing loss and helped me find the right device calibrated to my unique hearing needs.

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supreme court case it will decide the future of the indian child welfare act and they feature nato sovereignty. the non-native plaintiffs in bookie versus haaland argue that icwa violates their constitutional right by discriminating against them based on their race. here is where things get tricky. in federal law trumps in trouble citizens are doesn't use a political group, not a racial. group cherokee nation journalist points out that a host of federal statutes treat native americans differently based on this political classification. so if the court strikes down a quote than land rights, water rates health care, civil jurisdiction and tribal self governance, all of that could go. with a needle right in the atlantic quote if icwa it is unconstitutional because it's

based on race, then what of the clinic where i get my health care that serves only trouble? citizens if icwa discriminates against non native foster parents what are the -- medulla them to operate were non native casino earners can't? what group in the 90s as their own police forces and lands as tribes to. the possible shift is around. nicole the treats trumps and trouble citizens as differ from non native citizens, since the founding of the republic. if that is unconstitutional the entire legal structure protecting the donations could crumble. -- osha the practice this land on crooked media. rebecca, thank you for joining. us we tried our best to explain this, but for people who are not exposed to, this everything i have just said for the last seven minutes or so sounds foreign. for our nominee to viewers who do not understand but really want to understand why this is such a big deal, can you try to

expand whether, said or clarify what they said? >> absolutely. just like certain laws which or applied to me because i am a citizen of the united or a resident of oklahoma, certain laws apply to me because i am a citizen of the cherokee nation into those laws are not based on race but on the treaty relationship between my sovereign indigenous nations and the united states. the u.s. ratified those treaties through the same process and ratify treaties with foreign governments and so a lot of laws flow from this special nation to nation relationship between tribes and to the u.s. federal government and the fear is that because of the way that the plaintiffs are making arguments in barr keep that they are so broad and so sneaky they could turn all of this centuries of law on their head. >> it is important to know. that's what we talk about the

cherokee nation. or the knob he. nation because the relationship with these groups is sort of a nation to nation treaty's hourly ship. you talk about the arguments being made here. let's discuss. that the state of texas and several families who are adopting north of the top that canadian children are challenging icwa because they say they must win unconstitutional racial preference. and that the federal law impinges on state autonomy in that area. what is your take on that? >> they are making two big arguments which is one that the nominated foster parents are just being discriminated against. the irony is that actually for the most part the plaintiffs actually won custody of these native children. when the children also have blood relatives that wanted to raise them. when i investigated what actually happened in the custody cases, i think it actually showed how biased the child welfare system is against the native families. only one native grandmother was able to adopt her grandbaby.

and it took her six years. the other big argument coming from texas is kind of a states rights argument. they are saying that congress basically overstepped its bounds. by passing this law and that congress does not have the authority to pass a law like this. >> it was passed in 1970. eight it had broad bipartisan support. because congress had learned the decades prior to 1978, between 25 and 35% of all indian children nationwide were removed from their homes. 90% of those children were placed into non indian homes. so if icwa it is undermined, what's in your opinion in 2022 is the impact on the native children? >> ups elusively. i think there is a lot of evidence that there is a lot of bias in the welfare. system needed children or the foster care at really high rates. what icwa does it help kiet

keep native children with native families. it is kind of a guardrails to make sure that those systemic removals that happen generation before snow top in again. there are some states that have a state version of icwa, but it will be kind of like abortion. if it falls. it will depend on where the native family lives, and whether they have those protections. >> like roe, if it falls it falls under state jurisdiction. why would it be like that? >> because a lot of child welfare experts have recognized that icwa is a best practice, a lot of states actually -- the irony of texas saying that it violates what states rights is that there were 23 states who say that aqua was -- with this lawsuit. and many states have basically adopted icwa into the child welfare policies. what we go away would be the federal. lob and we should have a decision from the supreme by

late spring or early summer. >> earlier this month he wrote in the atlantic, quote, i feel that the brackeen lawsuit is the first in a row of dominoes. if the court struck down icwa, everything else could soon go with. it neil gorsuch, one of the court's conservative justices, seem to agree with that concern with the argument that we made last. week saying the other laws related to health care and many other civil liberties would become vulnerable if icwa was overturned. a lot of non native viewers will not really register about the things that people living on native nations enjoy today that could fall, and why that could be detrimental to somebody like you. >> absolutely. gershengorn i like you said in that quote go to a health care clinic to get my health. care we have laws where we have land rights. we pass environmental regulations. there is a lot that tribes it's trouble governments and tribal citizens do because we are part

of that political body, the death we are just a racial group and any lobby treatise differently as discrimination, the shift could be radical. i think something that is really important to point out is that the pro bono law firm for the plaintiffs, the lawyer actually filed a lawsuit in the state of washington making a very similar argument. making almost an identical legal argument. but instead of on behalf of non native foster parents, it was on behalf of the non native casino developers. saying that tribal gaming in the state of washington was racial discrimination. in other words, kind of the follow on a lawsuits that has ulterior motives has already been filed by the probe on a law firm. >> rebecca, what a great conversation. thank you so much. there are a lot of us who just didn't understand the nuances of this and we are a bit smarter as a result of. it i would recommend, however,

that folks read the stuff you have. written in the atlantic. to get a better understanding of this court case and the decision that could come, as you, say. inspiring rebecca engel is an author and writer and member of the cherokee nation and host and podcast, this land. don't go anywhere, we are weeks away from the final report from the january six committee. there is some reporting with disagreement within the committee. the colorado preventative diana guest joins us on what we should expect, and how could affect the future of american democracy. another hour of velshi begins right now. t now. good morning it is sunday november the 20. seven-time l.a.. velshi full democratic control of congress is about to come, tonight republicans likely to shake things up when we takes power in the house at about five. weeks one of the things that is widely expected to occur is the end of the house select committee, investigating the january 6th insurrection. it is a possibility of the

committee itself has been preparing, for long before the fighting began in this year's midterms. that's part of this reparations the committee plans to publish a final report of its findings by the end of this year. before the new congress is seated. according to the washington post, that final report is now the source of discord among members of the committee who disagree on what she deserves to be included and what will become the definitive document of the committee's work. washington post reports builds upon a november 11th and d.c. news story, about how the final report will largely focus on donald trump and how he fomented the january 6th insurrection. that report is expected to be about 1000 pages long is expected to be an encapsulation of the committees wide-ranging investigation. over the past year and a half, committee members and their staff have conducted more than 1000 interviews with witnesses. and they reviewed hundreds of thousands of records related to the events leading up to the january 6th insurrection. and its aftermath. but according to the 15 former and current committee staffers