and that does it for me. thank you for staying with me. but don't worry, many will be right back right here next sunday at 8 pm eastern. i am in for mehdi hasan, thank you again for making the time. now i will hand it over to san stein who is in tonight for a in -- a, sam. >> hi there, thank you so much. good evening, i am sam stein. i am in for -- and coming up tonight on ayman. donald trump has yet to condemn the white supremacist that he dined with. most of the gop is staying silent. plus, the biden administration 's plans to combat republican congressional investigations. and the democratic parties hail mary attempt to revive the

child tax credit. let's get started. all right, tonight we are following the file from donald trump's dinner with a man at the justice department is labeled a white supremacist. last week the ex president posted nick fuentes and kanye west at his florida home. sources told axios that trump, quote, seemed very taken with fuentes. and was impressed with his ability to rattle off statistics and recall speeches from trump's 2016 campaign. once word got out of the dinner, backlash in trump world reeled in. one longtime trump advisor called the situation a quote effing nightmare. told nbc news, quote, that people are looking at florida governor ron desantis to run against trump. here is another reason why. now, trump is trying to distance himself from fuentes.

saying he didn't know the 24-year-old was going to be at the dinner. and had no idea who he was. this despite the fact that fuentes has been a feature player in right-wing circles for a while. paddling around with maga republicans like arizona's paul gosar. and georgia's marjorie taylor greene. last year both members of congress attended the american first political action conference. it is an event organized by fuentes himself. where he took to the stage to felt ideas like this. >> our secret sauce here is these young white man. that is what we call the secret ingredient. the world has forgotten about them, but not us. we have got the white christian men that built this countries, the first time. we will do it again. >> look, it doesn't matter what

trump claims he did or didn't know at the time. what matters is that also what he knows now. trump underlined billy knows now that nick fuentes is an outspoken racist, an antisemite, and he is a holocaust lawyer. but in the statements he has put out after that dinner, trump has declined to condemn him or even denounced those views. will that change? for those who know the ex president's long history of refusing to criticize anyone who's complemented him, that seems to put eight generously unlikely. let's discuss this more with the just video -- democratic congresswoman barbara lee of california. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. i want to get your reaction to the dinner. obviously an explosive decision to have a dinner with nick fuentes. does trump's failure to denounce fuentes surprise you at all? and i guess, what do you imagine are the downstream impacts of a failure to denounce those types of viewpoints?

>> thank you, sam, for having me. let me just say first of all, wow, it is shameful. i am really not surprised. secondly, it is no excuse to say that i did not know. i mean, he knows what kanye's views are in terms of his comments as it relates to a summit-ism and hate. so you know, i think it looks like once again -- where he needs to apologize. if he were frio, he would say, i am sorry. i apologize. he didn't do that and he won't do that because once again that is who he is. he associates with these people. and he is constantly behaving and saying hate, promoting hate language, antisemitism, white supremacy. really it is very dangerous. because a lot of what he has done leads to violence, hate speech leads to hate violence. so he knew. but he said he didn't.

so if he didn't, why doesn't he apologize? why doesn't he disassociate himself from those he knows are antisemitic and saying anti-semitic things such as kanye? >> well, why do you think he doesn't apologize? >> that is who he is. and, you know, for some reason he has got to continue, hopefully, the public now understands who he is. remember the campaign of 2016 and the horrible horrific language he used towards mexican americans, towards muslims, towards women, towards african americans. towards people who were different or than him. who are not white males. and when we look at the policies that he put forth. when you look at the band that he put in place. this man's policies reflect who he is. so this is something that i think the republicans also need right now to disassociate themselves from him, what he says, and move on. i haven't heard many republicans say anything about

what took place at this dinner. and so we have to move forward as democrats, though, and we are gonna continue to work for the people. >> so as you mentioned, republicans. republican congressman james comer of kentucky, he was actually asked about this meeting on meet the press this morning. let's take a listen to what camera to say about this. >> well, you certainly need better judgment in who he dance with. i know that he has issued a statement saying he didn't know who those people were. i would not take a meeting with that person, though. i wouldn't take a meeting with kanye west, either. but that is my opinion. >> no, i mentioned this moment ago, trump is not the only gop lawmaker fuentes has met with. is this just an issue of bad judgment? comments like homers suffice for you? >> no, this is deeper than bad judgment. he should say that he condemns it and he needs to make sure

that he says that very clearly. and that that is wrong. and that it is more than badge -- this is who donald trump, is he was president, we saw his policies, we know what he said during his campaign. and the country, i think, is really beginning to understand this deeper level. but again, democrats have to move on and i think what is gonna happen is more people are gonna dissociate them selves from donald trump in terms of supporting him for president. and i think that the country is coming to really understand that even those who supported him the first time around are beginning to understand that this is a dangerous man and he is filled with hate. >> we will see about that, the republican drama doesn't stop at trump. in your chamber, gop leader kevin mccarthy is currently fighting for his political life for the speakership i should say in the house. he is trying to secure enough votes to become speaker. one do you think he will

ultimately get those votes? and to, will the concessions that he has to make to the freedom caucus and exchange for those votes, how do you expect that to impact the next two years in terms of what the house will look like? >> i can tell you one thing, the concessions that he goes to the freedom caucus won't be concessions that are going to address the climate crisis, childcare, the cost of living, the quality of life, housing and health care. they won't be concessions that speak to the needs and aspirations of the american people. and so whatever concessions he has negotiated. i can tell you that they won't be concessions that we are going to have to fight against. and they will be concessions that the public will understand who was on their side. so we are ready whenever their agenda is. and we are gonna continue to make sure that we put forth policies that are gonna make life better for everyone.

>> do you think he ultimately gets the votes to become speaker? >> well, i don't know, that depends on the concessions that he makes. i mean, he has got such a slim margin. i shudder to think what those concessions may be. but if he does, look out. that is all i can say. i know they want to be concessions about how we move forward to ensure that everyone has 35 dollar ceiling on their insulin in addition to our medicare recipients. so i know that they will be concessions that i will be happy with, probably. >> switching to, you talked about the agenda. the democrats do have control for another five weeks or so. both chambers of congress. what do you expect to get done legislatively between now and january 3rd? it's just gonna be about the debt ceiling? and game arrow ridge? or is there something else that you think the party will push through with its remaining majority? . we >> are pushing through many

efforts. congresswoman karen bass, mayor karen bass has several criminal justice reform measures that would provide for a second chance. we have the debt. excuse me, the debt ceiling to discuss and debate. i am not sure where we will go with that. but we have the budget. the omnibus bill. remember, we are negotiating the funding for the federal government. so we are in the process now of making decisions and trying to get the republicans negotiate with us on issues around the climate crisis and housing and health care and the entire federal budget. i served on the appropriations committee. chair of the subcommittee on state and foreign operations. we have a heck of a lot of work to do as it relates to our international diplomacy and development. we have issues around covid. so we have a lot of work to do. and we are gonna complete it. so that is gonna be a very busy december. but we are gonna stay there until we get the job done for the american people. >> you've got covid a, you've got aid to ukraine. the debt ceiling, game

marriage. a lot of stuff you've got to deal with. you think you're caught that done? >> democrats work hard. have you seen what we have done in the last few years? i mean to tell you that along with the biden administration, speaker pelosi and senator schumer we have worked today in night and day and night passing the inflation reduction act, we have passed the american rescue plan. we have passed the chips plan. we passed all of these policies that the president saint that are leading to good paying jobs that are leading to policies that are gonna make the world a better place and ensure that our country continues to move forward on the issues of justice and freedom for everyone. >> all, right congresswoman barbara lee, a pleasure to talk with you on this late sunday night, really appreciate you coming on and taking care. let's continue this conversation with my panel. joe one is an msnbc legal analyst, a former assistant watergate special prosecutor. she is also the co-host of the

sisters in law podcast. i must listen. hayes brown is a columnist editor for msnbc daily. jaylen hayes, thank you so much, really appreciate it. jill, let's start with you. the reaction to the nick fuentes dinner. and the i don't know him defense. is it good enough for trump in the context of a republican primary? >> in the context of a republican primary, donald trump seems to get away with everything. i think it is despicable that he had the dinner. but i think it is just as bad that we are only talking about, is dinner with nick fuentes. he also had dinner with ye, who is a antisemite. who has lost all of his business dealings because of it. if corporations can stand up to the former kanye west, then why can't the president of the united states? why is he consoling him on his business loss? why is he letting him come to mar-a-lago to have dinner.

it is because, as representative ali just said, that is who he is. and that is what the republican base that supports him has allowed. and no republican leader has spoken out about, i shouldn't say none. there have been a few who have been said it was bad judgment. and i would say that it is more than bad judgment. it is bad policy. >> yeah, that is a good point. he gets almost a pass for having dinner with ye, otherwise known as kanye. mccarthy, let's switch to him. he's in a tough spot. right? i mean, he had a lot to say last week when he was threatening to strip congresswoman ilhan omar of her committee assignments. he called her past quotes antisemitic comments. but so far he has remained silent on this trump dinner with ye and nick fuentes. is it tenable that he can be condemning airline omar in one breath and not saying anything

in another. i mean, how long can he go on without saying anything here? >> as long as it takes for the counting of the 218 votes in the next congress. it's a long time to keep going with this. i mean, the thing with kevin mccarthy is that he is between a rock and a hard place. he is between 218 votes. speaker and the freedom caucus. saying he is not gonna be hard enough on joe biden. so he is trying to bridge that gap in any way that he can. he is thinking about offering. one of the things that is fascinating about kevin mccarthy is that he is following in the footsteps of many republican men who have tried to be speaker of the house for the republican caucus in this modern day and age. and realized that what they want is a firm speakership. they want to be able to govern the way that nancy pelosi governs with democrats. and what they find is the sort of principles that republicans spouse in terms of decentralized leadership, yes that, era. house republicans, at least they say they want that to. they don't want a strong

speaker telling them what to vote for. what to push forward in terms of legislation. so they want to weaken the speakership under mccarthy. mccarthy knows, though, that if he gives the house freedom caucus the sort of concessions that they are asking for in terms of being able to have more power to oust a speaker that republicans change the rules to allow for back when john boehner was kicked out. nearly had to resign the speakership. then he realized that if he allows this he will have that sort of acts hanging over his head the entire time. but this congress is in session. but if he doesn't, he may not become speaker at. also he is going to ignore whatever he needs to ignore for the next couple of weeks. he is going to pretend that he doesn't know who nick fuentes is. that marjorie taylor greene, who supports, he managed to gain, did not speak at flint's comments -- at the same time, pushed the idea that ilhan omar is the real antisemite here for

questioning israel's policies towards the palestinian people. i think that, is completely fine for kevin mccarthy. >> joe, i mean, today's this point. i, mean all of mccarthy seems to be worried about is if he were to speak, out donald trump would say, hey, this guy is not fit to be speaker. that would be at, kevin mccarthy wouldn't be speaker. there are seemingly not a similar pressure point in the center of the republican party. i figure who would say, we're gonna withhold your vote unless you denounce this. are you surprised that no one is speaking up for us this just sort of the current incarnation of the republican party where you have to just watch for the pressure on the right flank? >> right now, that is the republican party. if you look at the statistics on who is supporting what. that is what we have in the republican party. and that's what the voters who voted in the republican party have supported. they don't care, they really are on the far-right side.

and the people in the middle seem to have gotten lost. so those people who might have spoken up aren't really loud enough to be drowning out any of the bad news. and, you know, you mentioned the agenda. the agenda for the republicans to stop democrats from accomplishing anything. their agenda is investigating, delay, and they're making up investigations. it is one thing to investigate. it is another thing when you have evidence of a crime. it's another thing when you -- are given investigations that have led to nothing. so they are gonna be wasting a lot of time and a lot of money, american taxpayer money, investigating things that are going to lead nowhere. >> all, rachel hayes, please stick around, we will have more for you later. when we get back, we will discuss the white house's plans to combat future republican investigations in the house.

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that is the message -- sending out in advance of unexpected illusion of gop investigations into the biden administration. at the start of the next congress. now, joe biden has promptly declared whether he will run for reelection. but that is not stopping democrats from treating the congressional probes to come as an open -- expect a 2024 campaign. perhaps a rematch with donald trump. what is, more white house officials and allies plan to take inspiration from biden's dark brand -- though on the offense. relying on the fact that less than three and ten voters think congress should focus on a

presidential impeachment investigation, or hunter biden's business dealings. back now with my senate panel. all right, jill, this one is ripe for you, because you were a watergate prosecutor. how would you advise the white house to prepare for the onslaught of congressional investigations that are to come? >> well, first let me say that preparation is a good idea. whether he is running for office or not. whether he is running for reelection. he will be a target. they are going to try to diminish the image of the president and of the democratic priority. so it will happen. and therefore, preparation is a good idea. i would say that they need to do two things. one, they have to obviously have the defense ready for any of the allegations that they can expect to come. we expect hunter biden to be a target. and then we expect them to allege that president biden

somehow benefited or helped his son get extra business. not in his role as a concerned father, but in his role as the vice president of the united states. so we need to prepare the facts on that. and then they also need to be prepared to take the offense in terms of what the accusers are guilty of. and, you know, it is sort of like what you are saying. how does mccarthy ignore what donald trump does in terms of antisemitism. and then say, well, i'm kicking people off committees because they made an antisemitic comment. it is the same thing here. they have to be prepared to know what the other side did. >> [inaudible] what are the chances the republicans basically overplay their hand here? by that, i mean, there's definitely topics that are, you know, worthy of investigation.

americans are interested in, like, for instance, the flawed afghanistan withdrawal, right? we can see probing interesting investigations. that one that would be embarrassing, perhaps, for the biden administration. at the same time, the voters really care about probes into clinical race theory? or hunter biden's business dealings? how do republicans manage to satisfy the base that wants those probes, but also legitimate exercises of oversight responsibilities here? >> well, i mean, that is the sort of thing that i think that republicans have been struggling with over the course of the last decade. as they have seen their ranks joined by more and more members of the far-right. as they have seen, you know, the tea party take over. you saw the benghazi investigations. you know, after -- you would think that they would learn from the over reach that they saw there. that they would have learned from the overreach during the clinton impeachment.

i feel for the biden administration in that they do have to cooperate with these investigations. like, one of the things that they have to do is even though many -- but they have to be prepared to hand over documents. they have to be prepared to not fight in court. me over absolutely all claims of executive privilege to keep these investigations from going. they need to push forward with them as though this were a say in congress and make sure that they feel the same about dotting their eyes and crossing their t's and have documents ready to be handled in congress. i know that the biden administration has been stacking up, i hope in the last few weeks of -- chuck schumer, nancy pelosi can slip a couple extra million into the budget for the council -- executive departments just to make sure they have the proper staffing to handle the wave of investigations they're gonna be coming. >> well, joe, let me ask you about that. much does the white house

actually have to play. right? -- very valid point, we all remember the clinton years where they were incredible internal disputes over just how much to cooperate with what they viewed as fishing expeditions. ultimately, i think they, you, know they were the day they did not cooperate. some say they should never have cooperated in the future. so if you are sitting with the biden people in the counselor's office. what do you think you would say to them in terms of, okay, do you legitimize these investigations? do you cooperate with them? do you turn everything over? or do you fight on some grounds citing executive privilege among other things? >> this is the hardest question that you could ask me. because you are in a situation where the republicans have completely thumbed their nose at all oversight. and i don't mean just in terms of the criminal or impeachment investigations. but even things like the immigration policies of the trump administration. when congress wanted to ask

questions they simply refused and it continues to this day. all of the people who have been subpoenaed now testify in various venues, whether it is georgia or the doj or congress. they have gone to court, delayed to the point where it may be and actually -- i think -- even though he won -- because he delayed it to the point where turning over his tax returns as useless. turning over any documents becomes useless. so that is a very, you know, interesting point. i am sure the democrats were saying, well, let's play the same game they played. why should we cooperate? why should we turn over anything? they said they didn't have to. that there was all these privilege. i am one of those people who believes the law is the law. and that you should not falsely claim that there is executive privilege when there clearly is none. that you should cooperate. i also believe that where there

is nothing there, cooperation maybe the best thing for your political purposes, it will show there was nothing there. on the other hand, it is a big waste of time. and that troubles me. and i am hoping that voters will have really spoken up about how they voted this midterms, it will do it again in 24 and say we can't have the governing gun by a party that wants to only waste time. we want someone who is gonna pass legislation and govern in a way that will help us. and that's not what the republican agenda is right now. >> all right julie hayes, stay with us again. we appreciate it. up next, as democratic control of washington comes to an end. a group of lawmakers is making a last-ditch effort to revive child tax credit. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful,

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the feature of the child tax credit, the pandemic-era program that helped cut child poverty in half? it is in limbo after expiring months ago. now, democrats wanted to revive these payments to families, setting continued evidence that they lowered hardship and nurture children, without reducing parental employment. but republicans who are about to take control of the house, they opposed bringing back the child tax credit, setting inflation concerns. but the heart of the matter isn't really politics, it is americans like thomas and his wife pamela. thomas and pamela raising three children. they say the payments helped to raise them above the poverty line. and now that those payments have lapsed, they are back to suffering. as thomas told the new york times, quote, we are back to the everyday struggle. let's bring back our panel to discuss this. jill, is it a realistic goal for democrats to try to revive the child tax credit in the lame duck section?

>> it is a good goal. but at this congress, in this divisive environment, it is not realistic. we are clear in the message that we are getting that the republicans would not allow this to happen. and when we talk about even in the lame duck section that the democrats have control of both houses, they really do not. as long as there is a requirement of 60 votes in the senate, and the democrats only have 50. they cannot get 60. there will not be ten republicans who will break a filibuster. so, it doesn't matter that there are 50 democrats who will vote for this in the senate or that there is a majority in the house that will vote for, it it will not pass. and kevin mccarthy has made clear that he will not allow it to pass. >> yeah, even if they had a 50 vote threshold, which they could potentially do on reconciliation, not off the democrats are there. senator joe manchin is among

the skeptics here. hayes, what is your sense of the politics here. first of all, how to get to the point where objectively, there is so much success in regards to the program. to, do you share jones view that it is just not going to be resuscitated politically in the east near terms? >> like you said, joe manchin, he is the main reason why this program lapsed. he did not want to include an extension of the child tax credit in the form that it existed. in the reconciliation packages, the reconciliation package eventually became the inflation reduction package. manchin believes that there was evidence that this would make it so that people wouldn't work. so that parents would lollygag about with their newfound riches. and opposed to getting jobs. there is not evidence of that, though. this pilot program basically show, like you said, that the reduction in child poverty by

half. which some critics say, oh, it is not that much. it is to the people who are no longer below the poverty line. and there were also concerns for manchin and others that it was inflationary. that these checks that people had this cash in their products, and it was kind -- of inflation over the last year and a half. however, there is also no evidence for that. there is not proof that this extra income and people's pockets contributed overall to the rising prices that we have seen over the last year. things that have gone priced are not the basic necessities that have not been because of people who are in poverty being able to buy more chicken, for example. there is no sign that the russian on demand on meat from people who, for example, people who received child tax credits, is contributing to the push in the prices in the meat industry. so i think that it is good

policy to try to revive this tax credit. is it politically viable? i have my doubts. but i think it is worth fighting for. it is one of those things that even though there is a chance of not passing, within this coming congress. it should be a priority for the democratic party moving forward to be able to make the lives of american families easier by giving them back the money that they already are going to be able to get back at the end of the year throughout the year. that is really what we are talking about here. it is an early tax refund to refund people who have already been paying those taxes, would be getting it back at the end of the year mostly anyways. >> jill, the republican in me here is will -- hayes is wrong. they are not arguing that haze is wrong. they are saying that it is wrong, that this is in fact inflationary. giving people more money to spend, they spend for money on food. prices can go up because food manufacturers can, you know, charge more. it is just basic fly and man stuff. whether or not the economics of

that is true, and i've seen certain on both sides of the equation. you know, the fact of the matter is political and this is an easy run for republicans. right, they can say any new spending is off the books. we are living with six to 7% inflation. we have to get out of that. is this just gonna be, you know, certifiably impossible for democrats to have any discretionary domestic spending the next two years until we get back cows control, if they get a black house control. >> i would say that haze is right. this is politically a good thing to fight for. it is what the democratic party stands for. it is what the voters want. and that people of all people should want this to happen. and it is worth fighting for. but i do think it is an easy argument for the republicans to make that this is just not going to happen. but at the same time, how can they then say that we have to give tax breaks to the rich? and that is what they do stand

for. and that is what they fight for. so it is the poor people who don't benefit, it is the rich people who do. and the question is, how can the democrats finally get to communicate those facts to the voters, so that voters realize that they are voting against their own interests when they vote for the republican party, who will take away the benefits for them. and this is something that really did help. and i think, you are right. there are arguments on both sides. there are statistics on both sides. but from what i have read, the statistics that scene most persuasive are the ones that hayes was referring to. that there is just no evidence that it caused inflation. there is no evidence that the people that got this money stopped working. they went back to work as soon as they could. they were able to live better with this money, and the two jobs that they already had to hold. so the evidence seems to me to

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details on 20 tokyo olympics, and was appointed to be a goodwill ambassador by the un refugee agency in thousand and 17. thank you for joining us, yusra. let me start with this, the swimmers, it is story based on you and your sisters journeys, fleeing syria during the civil war. it chronicles the many trials that you both faced. what is it like to see your personal story, the story of you and your sister and your family, portrayed on film? >> honestly, it is a great pleasure for us. those stories are not usually picked out to be the next hollywood movie. so we are very very lucky. and when we wanted to share this story, we said yes about the movie, it was because we wanted to share the story that millions of refugees are going through. and we think that the movie is doing a great job with. that is bringing a lot of awareness of what is happening with refugees. and netflix helped us bring it

to the whole world, basically. so it is really exciting and a very surreal moment for us. >> you know, there is a scene in the film where your character who is played by natalie isa tells your cousin as she is leaving syria that you are not refugees, and that you do have a home. talk about, essentially that. the toll that it takes to, like, know you have a home but you cannot stay in your home. >> yeah, i think it was really really hard for me to admit that i am abandoning everything and everyone i know, especially that i was 17 years old. to me, it was like, okay, maybe we will go for germany for a few years and then we will go back home. that was the idea. that was the plan. but i struggled with the word refugee, even when i started for the refugee olympic team, i did not want to go, as you can see in the movie, that is not

fiction, that was real. i struggled with the word refugee because of the misconception about what a refugee is. because when you talk about a refugee, you imagine them coming from, like, places where, like, you have no electricity, you have no technology. we are poor. and that was not -- that was why i was struggling with the word refugee until i became one. and i understood that being a refugee should not understood stop me from being who i am. i swam, then i was like, you know, when i go to the olympics, i'm representing millions around the world. especially competing under the olympic flag. which is an honor to me. and that is kind of how my whole, you know, idea of what a refugee has changed. and it sounds like i am gonna own up to it and bring more awareness about it. and all over the world. be an advocate for that. >> when you got to germany, you

had this incredibly dangerous track in which a lot of people have died. you get to germany and then you decide you are going to continue your swung draining. i guess the question is, was that because you felt like you needed something that you had in your past to continue doing. was it always with a goal to eventually get to the olympics? was there, what was the emotional baggage and having to do and commit to swimming all over again once in germany? >> honestly, it was my only hope. i did not know anything in germany or anyone. i had to learn the language, which took me awhile to accept. i had my sister and my cousin. you don't really have a life when you go to germany, because you have to learn language to do a lot of paperwork. as you can see in the movie, you are not really very free to do anything else. and the only thing that may be made me feel peace filled that

helps to flying zaidi and with my trauma so swimming. because since i was very young, my dad who was my coach taught me that once you enter the pool, you have to leave everything behind and focus on the sport. and your sports goal. and that is exactly what i did. and it helped me to find my community again and help me find amazing people that i still called family until today. so really, to be honest, it was my only hope and life at that moment, and i helped me stand up again and be okay again. >> all, right yusra mardini, thank you so much. an inspiring story. a must watch movie. and the great message for refugees across the world, thank you so much for sharing your story with us. >> thank you. >> and thank you, the fewer, for making time for us. a man will be back next week. you can catch a man back here on msnbc saturdays. at eight. sundays at nine.

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