tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC November 28, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PST
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york city. voters lining up in huge numbers in georgia. officials telling us moments ago the totals are far beyond expectations. 84,000 people had cast ballots across the state today alone. we'll go live to atlanta for the latest. plus, millions of ukrainians who survived the russian onslaught now potentially beinged forced to flee their homes because winter could kill them. we are telling how they are living without power, heat or water and still facing down the threat of russian missiles. finally, the amazing story you have got to see to believe. how the people on board that plane managed to walk away from one of the wildest cashes you will ever see. that is later in the show. in georgia, early voting officially begins today after two dozen counties opted to start over the weekend. turnout extraordinary so far.
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nearly 157,000 people voting in person saturday and sunday. a holiday weekend, no less. yesterday's total, more than doubled the previous sunday record. and today the number is more than 80,000, quote, blowing the doors off expectations, according to the secretary of state's office. officials say the lines have been steady in fulton county, for example, some people are waiting up to two hours. in other places, no wait at all. rafael warnock before casting his own vote sunday. all of it part of an all-out sprint to the finish that saw him headlining half a dozen events in recent days. hammering herschel walker with new ads like this one. >> the other night i was watching fright night, freak night. i don't know if you heard of it but it was about vampires.
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>> what the hell is he talking about? >> is he for real? >> it's all the same air. >> not only does it make no sense, i don't understand what he thinks he's saying. >> i think it's a risk to me and millions of georgians. >> let's call it what it is. [ bleep ]. it's embarrassing as hell. >> well, you know. >> by comparison, herschel walker hasn't held a public event since last tuesday. although he is expected back on the campaign trail today. tim miller is writer at large for the bulwark and worked on republican jeb bush's presidential campaign. adrienne is a democratic strategy who worked on multiple campaigns. good to see all of you. we always say it. it comes down to turnout. we saw a ton of people waiting in lines this past weekend. now we are hearing from the
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secretary of state. it's happening today again. tell us what you saw and heard. >> chris, you mentioned some of these numbers at the top of the show. 160,000 people early voting through the weekend, a holiday weekend. and 84,000 today. it's not even noon yet. we are talking to folks what matters to them the most. we think about excitement and enthusiasm. democracy is at stake. one is not worthy of representing georgia. we heard it time and again. people in buckhead a relatively well to do section of atlanta, have been here all day. the enthusiasm is showing up in their commitment to democracy. for these folks, it's not just control of the senate. it is democracy hanging in the balance. they have a clear favorite. >> i have to ask you, what do you make of these kinds of numbers? our producer, who spoke with one of the guys in the secretary of
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state's office clearly they almost couldn't pwhraoeft numbers they were seeing. >> especially with so many of the barriers erected. sorry. go ahead tkpwhrfplt sorry. tim, go ahead. >> sometimes you can overinterpret the early votes. that is not what is happening in this case. there have been 11,000 people that voted who did not vote in the midterm already. that's 6% of the total turnout did not vote in the midterm. over half of those people are under 30. so these are young voters who are excited to get out in this runoff. i think they are buoyed by what happened in the midterms. a surprising democratic gain. it might make you ask where were they a month ago. you have that enthusiasm on one side. on the other side, when i was down in georgia for the bulwark,
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a lot of the soft republican voters were willing to vote for rafael warnock. some were just going to vote for brian kemp and leave the senate line blank. not the base but in a more casual voter. not excited about herschel walker. and many turning out for warnock on the other side. >>. >> that ad has been viewed 1.4 million times. i think the message is consistent, right? from his perspective, herschel walker isn't qualified. when you see the reactions, if the sub text isn't, aren't you just exhausted by these were kinds of candidates? >> yeah. chris, first of all,, the ad that you just mentioned is one of the most effective campaign
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ads i have ever seen. why? because the ad literally uses herschel walker's own words and saying i can't really understand what he is saying. what is this? this underscores the fact that a lot of people don't want someone like him representing their views in the united states senate. yeah, i think people are exhausted. they are looking at this and saying, gosh, we have a chance here to grow the democratic majority by one seat. we remember how difficult it was to get things done. we believe if we can help make that one gain, we will see more progress especially now that the house is in the hands of republicans. i think that's also top of mind to georgia voters. as tim mentioned, the turnout
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among young people is huge now. we are seeing it at emory university and other colleges across the state this past weekend. just an exciting thing to see democracy work. voters know there is a lot at stake. this is an effective ad. it underscores this is not the competent leadership. walker, tim, also put out a new ad yesterday attacking warnock. let me play a part of that. >> character is what you do when nobody's watching. >> uh-huh. and warnock thought no one was watching when his ex-wife called police to report his abuse. >> he's a great actor. >> and warnock thought no one was watching when he evicted poor people from their homes.
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>> and he's going evict you for 119. >> so also using real people i guess tim in that ad. but what's different about herschel walker's approach is he has not been seen at a public event since last tuesday. i wonder what you make of that ad and that strategy overall? >> you know, look, setting aside the facts of the case on that ad, just looking at it as an analyst, that's the kind of thing you run when you're behind, trying to drove up your opponent's negatives, usually run early in the campaign not later in the campaign. this is a sign that walker knows he's in trouble. his negatives are very high. and i don't know who you're convincing with that.
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they liked brian kemp in the general. walker still lost to warnock. it still went to a runoff. he's trying to make up this difference and trying to convince voters, the kemp/warnock voters to switch back with negative ads. it is hard to see how that works at this late of an hour. >> it is late. you know what it is like in the closing days of the campaign, the pressure you will be feeling. what will you be watching for in the final days of this runoff campaign? >> well, you know, chris, i'm going to be looking for turnout among young voters, some didn't even vote in the general election but are now voting in this runoff. does it go up, stay the same?
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where are the long lines for these democratic performing districts? this is not the way you want to close. if you are the walker campaign with a contrast ad like this. introducing new allegations to the campaign that are not necessarily backed up with evidence and fact. i will be looking at enthusiasm. we will look to see how much he uses his on prowess. he did very well in the general. walker lost despite kemp doing very well. or at least had a fewer number of votes. does he sit back and say, you know what, you're on your own. >> thank you both so much. tim, stay with me. the man accused of killing 10 people in a buffalo grocery store in may pled guilty to state charges this morning.
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19-year-old the face life in prison without parole. but there are federal charges to come that could bring the death penalty. i know you have been watching this. ron, what happened in court today so far? >> it was a very brief hearing. it was verify emotional. the da essentially went through the case what happened. in doing so, he provided new information that the families say they weren't aware of some of the detail about how their loved ones were killed and the sequence of events. it was painful for some of them speaking afterwards about what happened. basically the gunman pleaded guilty to 10 counts of first-degree murder. the big charge was domestic terrorism motivated by hate. this is the first time anyone in the state of new york was convicted of this crime, which was just put on the books about 10 years ago.
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>> in 10 years it had never been used before? >> exactly. that speaks to the heinousness and uniqueness of this particular crime. the gunman, you'll recall, videotaped what he was doing on his helmet camera. store surveillance picked up what he did. most were elderly shoppers on a routine day. here's what the d.a. said. take a listen. >> he even went so far as to do a google search of the zip code in new york state that had the highest concentration of african americans. his preparation included, but is not limited to, the diagramming of the interior and exterior of the store.
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taking notes of the security guards and their weapons. as well as noting the time of day when the store was most populated with african americans. >> there were mixed feelings of the families about the trial not happening and there being a plea. some said they wanted the trial to raise other issues like the gun manufacturers culpability, social media's culpability in any of this, white supremacy and racism in the country generally speaking. so, yes, there is a federal case coming up. there were discussions of a plea in that as well. there the big issues is the death penalty. i'm sure there will be convicting moral and other views of people in the community whether this individual should be put to death or not. that's to come in some month's time. today was a marker. many families said this was just
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a marker, a step along the way to what they perceive as more full justice. >> how would the federal case be different? how might it play out? what do you imagine is going on with those discussions. >> chris, in the state case we had swift justice. this happened seven months ago. he faces mandatory life without parole. new york doesn't have a death penalty. but this sentence means the defendant will die in prison. with the federal prosecution is it's likely to take a lot longer. the biden administration has paused federal executions. but prosecutors are still allowed to seek the death penalty in certain cases. the mayor of buffalo said the most effective legal response to this tragedy is for congress to pass a meaningful ban on assault
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rifles. >> some of the family members talked about sentencing in just the last hour. i want to play what the mother of a man who survived told reporters. >> his voice showed me -- made me feel sick. but it showed me that i was right in all the times that i've said that this country has a problem. this country is inherently violent. it is racist. and his voice showed that to me today. because he didn't care. you couldn't hear him in his voice. he was just a robot. >> paul, time and again we have heard from far too many families expressing their frustration, pain, wanting these very serious
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issues to be addressed, and they're not. you wonder, is anybody listening? >> the former president entertaining white supremacists and an anti-semite. part of this you don't want to talk about politics for a tragedy like this. certainly when we think about how inflammatory and violent the political process has become, you have to think about ways outside of the criminal law that responsible lawmakers and politicians can address these situations before they lead to these horrific tragedies. >> paul butler, ron allen, thank you so much. the jury is back deliberating at the high-stakes oath keepers trial. we're watching very closely for a verdict in that seditious conspiracy case against stewart rhodes and four others for their actions at the capitol january
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6th. today a really interesting note from the jury asking for clarification on language related to that charge. hundreds of people have been convicted in the 1/6 attack. each defendant could get as much as 20 years in prison or more. another reckoning inside the gop as donald trump dines with a white supremacist. is this a preview of big challenges to come for the party in 2024. plus, a firsthand account of the brutal and dangerous winter under way in ukraine. the world health organization official who was just there and the first to sound the alarm will join me ahead. two people today are so lucky to be alive. the stunning rescue of a pilot and passenger who crashed into a power transmission tower. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. y on msnc . 12 irresistible subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created.
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donald trump is wasting no time in making life more difficult for his fellow republicans. after having dinner last week with white supremacist and anti-semite nick fuentes, the former president has not disavowed fuentes. trump said he didn't know fuentes when he showed up and said the dinner was quick and uneventful. a handful of republicans have criticized him but not many. >> well, certainly he needs better judgment in who he dines with. i know he issued a statement and said he didn't know who those people were. >> it's very troubling, and it shouldn't happen. when you meet with people youen power. you can have accident al meetings happen. this was not an accidental meeting. >> keep in mind this is a time when anti-semitic incidents are at their highest level in years according to the anti-defamation
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league. it is 40% higher than at this time last year. so why aren't moreirense pushing back? "axios" spoke out for two dozen house and senate republicans, including party leaders, co-chairs and task forces on judaism and anti-semitism. granted, it was a holiday weekend. according to "axios", none responded. nbc's vaughn hillyard joins me in new york. tim miller is with me. chris christie did call this an awful lack of judgment. you wonder if that is the best case scenario. >> you mean, i don't have a private residence. i make sure who i know my friends are bringing. if donald trump wants to say this was a friend of ye, just
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last month he tweeted out there was definite con 3 on jewish people to come. i'm going def con 3 on jewish people. that is who he invited over for dinner. he is mott an unknown entity in conservative politics. at cpac i was attending. donald trump was even there that weekend. a big headline was that nick fuentes, he is a leader of a white nationalist movement. he was holding a conference just across the street in orlando. i watched way too many of that largely because marjorie taylor greene was there, paul gosar was there. i want to give everybody the chance to listen for themselves part of his remarks there that night. >> we've got the white christian
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men that built this country the first time, and we'll do it again. we are coming for you. your days in power are numbered. you think you can replace us? you're wrong. we will replace you. >> we will replace you. chris, you just sat here with ron allen talking about the buffalo shooting. that individual that shooter justified that on the great replacement theory you just heard from nick fuentes. this is legitmate. this man has a following. and when we are talking about this, chris, it is the former president of the united states and the current leader of the republican bunch of potential 2024 presidential candidates who we are talking about.
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he is not an unknown entity and donald trump made him that much more legitimate. >> he gave him another platform. tim, given everything we know, what does it say about the republican party? and, again, according to "axios", co-chairs of caucuses and task force folked on judaism and anti-semitism, even, again, holiday weekend. they stay quiet. even when they were specifically asked. >> yeah. even though we are in a post-trump era, trump is still with us. this is meaningfully different than how they behaved in pre-trump times. this was akin to george w. bush, bill clinton inviting david duke to their home to have dinner. that is what this is.
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nick fuentes is a leader. the clip was disgusting enough but mild compared to his life streams about killing people of color, killing jews, replacing people of color, the white national it movement. he has a group that follow him that is even more extreme than some of the other extremist groups that turned out on january 6th and turned out to support maga causes in other places. this is a very influential racist white nationalist leader that a former president had dinner with. not like some random guy that showed up at mar-a-lago. right now the current establishment is still living in the trump times. they want him to disappear but don't want to deal with it. they don't want to engage with him. we can't just get used to the fact that they can pretent not
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to see his comments on his failing social media site and not have to talk to them. if you look at the historic modern times in america, unprecedented to think that a former president of the united states would meet with a white nationalist leader. you cannot tell me if this had happened, had george w. bush done this, which he wouldn't, by the way, there wouldn't have been john mccains and others who spoke out and said this is absurd. every republican leader in pre-trump times would have done that. bob dole did it in '96. they're not doing it now because they are cowards and they fear nick fuentes has control over their base. >> but let me ask you about that. are you among those who believe
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that republicans can't win if they turn off the most toxic elements of trump space? >> no. it's just the wrong strategy. it was easier and safer to put your head in the sand and say nothing. the more you distance yourself from trump in the general election the better you did. brian kemp in georgia. stood up to him on the stop the steal efforts. ohio and new hampshire. they all won in landslide elections. maga candidates. but you can see that the voters are sending a different message. if the republicans had the courage to actually just draw a line in the sand for once and say no we will not accept white nationalist, anti-semites in the party, they will probably be rewarded in most cases by the voters based on the evidence we
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prevagen. healthier brain. better life. americans at this hour are on a shopping spree with discounts projected to drive record levels of spending this cyber monday. it's been a record shattering holiday weekend. online sales topped $9 billion for the first time ever on black friday. for retailers, it's a much needed boost after persistently high inflation hovering at four decade highs stoked worries about what the holidays would bring. i want to bring in brian chung, at an amazon facility out in new jersey for us. nbc's sam brock is at miami international tracking the people still trying to get home from the holiday weekend. so, brian, what do these say how the american people feel, not just the state of the economy
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right now but does it speak to consumer confidence going forward potentially? >> reporter: americans had no issue going out to spend. 166.3 million people are expected to shop between thanksgiving and cyber monday. for what it's worth, we saw that reinforced by adobe analytics. the dollar amount is inflated literally. prices are 7.7% higher than a year ago. it is forcing people to think about affording those types of things without paying up front. buy now, pay later gaining a lot of steam this holiday season. 78% was the increase in buy now pay later between last week and this week, the peak holiday
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shopping season. all of which is supporting the amount of packages out here where amazon is shipping to the many people who ordered over the weekend. >> get that back on the line. we don't want somebody not getting their package because you have it in your hand as a prop, brian. sam brock, maybe we are paying the price now. i think it was wednesday, thursday, everything looked good at airports. then we had something like 1,000 delays, dozens of cancellations. what are things looking like now? was it all weather? >> reporter: it is all weather. 7,000 total delays. that was yesterday. 2,000 today. this was weather driven. i'm at maybe international airport. you will see a steady stream of people. usually it comes in the morning and at night. which is to say people are trying to find the windows they
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can to get home. this is not an effect that affected everybody equally. it was the northeast and the mid atlantic that bore the brunt. specifically la guardia and dca in washington, d.c. where half of all flights in both locations were either delayed coming out or going in. >> i'm going back on monday. here's one mom explaining her reasoning. >> it was easier to find flights on monday. we tprged they can miss a day of school >> when you see 6,500 plus delays yesterday, does that make you cringe to think you could have been part of that crowd? >> yes. i feel vindicated. we had a day in the sun, went tout to a great restaurant and saw family. >> reporter: you're looking at 2.5 million people.
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not quite before the pandemic. that sunday after thanksgiving looked pretty darn close. airlines are doing a better job adding staffing, pilots trimming down schedules to handle the volume. cancellations was only 177 yesterday. that is about on par with a typical day when there's some weather. cue doughs for the airlines handling all the folks trying to get home. >> appreciate it. president zelenskyy with a stark new warning to the people of ukraine. plus, i'll speak with the world health organization director who just got back from the war-torn country and was the first to sound the alarm on the life-threatening winter ahead. that's next. life-threatening wi. that's next.
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playing out at universities all across the country. protesters angered by the strict covid policy are taking to the streets in defiance seen here clashing with police. demonstrators are calling for the resignation of xi jinping. president zelenskyy delivering a stark and terrifying new warning to ukraine. pay attention. more attacks are coming. the terrorists are preparing new strikes that could once again rock the country and its power grid. power has just been coming back on in most of ukraine after wiping out crucial infrastructure and leaving 12 million people without power. our next guest was one of the first to sound the alarm about the life-threatening winter ahead for ukrainians. concerns millions could flee in search of warmth and safety and
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face a new dangerous challenge. the world health organization region director for europe, dr. hans. you were just back from ukraine. from what you saw, how bad is it and how worried are you about how bad it could get this winter? >> millions of ukrainian people will be under set. i was there in april. we went to kherson. what we see in liberated areas, there is no primary health care infrastructure, no pharmacies. the elderly people struggle a lot to get the health care. but now that 50% of the civilian energy infrastructure is destroyed. this is an enormous attack on the health system. i was arriving at the hospital where 200 heavily traumatized
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people were in the hospital. and the hospital is going out in three hours. fortunately, they had a generator. but the needs are huge. this is the time for the world to stand with ukraine. >> we talk about one specific hospitalized. there was a story in the associated press where surgeons at the heart institute in kyiv were operating on a child's heart with only the light coming from head lamps and a battery-powered flashlight after russian attacks caused the power to go out. what does the health care system in ukraine need to survive this winter and be able to serve patients? >> first and mother most, i will stand inned myeration for all the doctors, the nurses. none of them fled. they stayed. they saved lives while the bombing happened. i was there. we also had to look for shelter.
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the most urgent need are generators and diesel. because maternity wards cannot function without incubators. they need fridges. people on dialysis need electricity. but what is worrying are the tremendous mental health needs. when i talked to volunteers who went to the front line i heard quite worrying stories about gender-based violence as well. it's very, very complex. and then looking towards next year, we should not forget that ukraine's traditionally has strong public services. so salaries need to continue to be paid and medicines need to arrive to the patients. >> i mean, the picture you just painted, the idea of the smallest of infants in incubators losing power is almost more than humanity should be able to wrap their head
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around. we are entering the ninth month in this brutal war. you have seen, as i said, the devastation firsthand. what would you want people to know, the natural human reaction is we move on, right? we feel for a situation. and then other things happen and we move on. what would you want people to know about ukraine and what the people there are going through? >> that this is the time to stand with the ukrainian health system. this is not a time for fatigue. because we are going to see terrible pictures of children with frostbite, people dying due to the cold with heart attack, with stroke. this winter is going to be critical, and we need to stand to the people of ukraine. >> dr. hans kluge, thank you for the work you do, sir, and thank you for taking the time to talk to us. i hope we have the opportunity to have you on again.
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threats to downslope communities at this time but note lava flows can change rapidly. the conservatory says it is closely monitoring that situation. right now, every single person in the fourth largest city in this country, houston, is being told to boil their tap water before drinking it. we're talking about 2.3 million people. a power outage at the city's water plant led water pressure to drop triggering concerns about possible contamination. as a result, schools are closed today. the mayor tweeted the city believes the water is safe, he says they're collecting samples now to be tested, but no word on how long that could take. and in maryland, an incredible rescue and story of survival. 100 feet in the air. take a look at this plane stuck in some high tension power lines. the pilot and the passenger trapped for hours. nbc is live in montgomery
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village. gary, i've seen those pictures so many times, and it is still incredible to me that crews were able to rescue those two. how are they able to do it? and how is the power outage situation on the ground now? >> reporter: really a remarkable situation. officials wrapping up a briefing with a few more details. as you can see the pictures and the videos, a small single engine plane crashing into the tower behind me, about 5:30 p.m., and immediately after they crashed, the occupants of the plane themselves called 911, and that is when the eight-hour process started of getting authorities to the ground here, figuring out a plan of how to get the passengers out of the plane and then the plane on the ground, and then power restored to the area, more than 100,000 people lost power in this incident. so how did officials do this? how did they get them down? they used two different cranes and you can see right now, two of the cranes being used right now to restore power to the area. they used these cranes, brought
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the folks down out of the plane on to the ground, and then took the plane apart, into two pieces and the engine and the rest of the plane itself, and brought that to the ground. so how did this happen? that is the question that is on the minds of many people, we're told by the faa that it was very foggy last night, it was certainly very cold last night, this is a plane that was coming from westchester, new york, so perhaps you do not know the area very well and we're told the plane, the pilot of the plane, they were relying on instrument technology. two ways to fly a plane. visually and by using instruments and we're told they were using instruments so perhaps there was a problem there as well. the faa, ntsb, local officials are all on the ground here and all saying these two folks are lucky to be alive. >> just the idea of hanging there, calling 911, but wondering is the plane going to stay or is it going to fall. the terror that they must have felt, and i mean, the way that they, the emergency forces responded, it is all just
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