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as we are coming on the air, the senate is coming back into session and back to work as we speak. wasting zero time, teeing up a vote on same-sex marriage protections in just a couple of hours. only one item on their long december to do list. we are live on capitol hill as the mad dash to the end of the month begins. but it's not just senators spotted on the hill today but a long-time trump insider. what we know about kellyanne conway's meeting with the january 6th committee today and how they got her to come. in and how the white house is responding as we speak to the extraordinary and rare scenes across china with crowds protesting the country's zero covid policy. you can see the national security council spokesperson on the left-hand side of the screen, that is a live look, we'll tell you what he just said, literally two minutes ago. i'm hallie jackson in washington. good to be with you on this post-holiday monday.
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with me now is ryan nobles and welcome back live anchor and lee leigh ann caldwell. let's start to the sprint to the finish. what democrats are hoping to get done in the last few weeks of controlling both chambers of congress, a couple of hours away from the key procedural vote from the senate on a narrow but important bill to protect same-sex marriage, leaders want a final vote by the end of the week to get on with another important thing, avoiding a government shutdown and making sure the pentagon has enough money to function. democrats want a year long deal at least on that stuff as opposed to something that kicks down the road for x number of weeks and the january 6th select committee with its work cut out for them, holding depositions today and racing to the deadline to get the final report finished up before the incoming house republican majority orders the whole thing ends. and the electoral counteract changes, to avoid a repeat of
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january 6th. all of that under a house led, for the last time, by speaker nancy pelosi, the democrat in the chamber set to sweep in a new set of leaders on wednesday. ryan, with that as a backdrop, a deep breath and let's begin. how are democrats expected to get this done in three or four wikes? >> after you lay it all out like that, hallie, i'm not sure. it is going to be a lot of work in a short period of time. i think for the most part, democrats have done a lot of the heavy lifting on a lot of these issues behind the scenes over the past couple of weeks leading up to the midterms and then shortly after. they knew that this lame duck session was going to be a very difficult one and it was going to require a lot of work, so therefore they got all of the pieces in place to get it done. now, as anything, as it happens with congress, the best laid plans can often be derailed and there are certainly some possible hiccups that could come with some of these pieces of legislation, government funding, you mentioned, there is a goal of perhaps putting sog that would last a little bit longer
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than a couple of weeks, there is no guarantee that they can get there, so there is still a lot of work that has to do be done now between now and the end of the year and it is a strict deadline, because once things turn over and a different set of lawmakers and specifically the republicans in the control of the house and a different set of members of the united states senate, it is going to be much more difficult to get a lot of this done, that's why you see the sense of urgency to make this lame duck session so consequential. >> what kind of hurdles do you expect republicans to throw up, road blocks at democrats during the lame duck. >> so hallie, that's the interesting dynamic here, is because each party has their own agenda, and their own challenges, especially knowing that congress is going to change control, especially the house of representatives, come january. and so what republicans might want, there's some republicans who want, instead of a year-long spending bill that funds the government through the rest of the fiscal year, through the end
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of september, some republicans want to do their own spending bill, and so they are pushing for perhaps a one, two-month continuing resolution, so that they can do the appropriations for the remainder of the year. these conversations are ongoing. they are way behind on how to fun the government. this is a conversation between the appropriations committee and the house and the senate, and also the leadership as well. and so these conversations are happening. there's no clear path forward. this can last until christmas. we could even come back after christmas to finish this up. this is not unprecedented either. two years ago, at the end of the 2020 congress, we were here after christmas, funding another, or doing another government funding bill. >> talk about what is ahead in the next congress, too, republicans have signaled they will not keep writing big checks for covid, for the war in ukraine and the next couple of
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years could look a lot different when it comes to that. >> that is absolutely right. and that's a reason why democrats now want to pass this nearly $40 billion of aid for ukraine. they also want to pass up to $10 billion for covid money, because they know it is going to be so much more difficult next year with republicans. mccarthy, assuming he gets the speakership which is a big question, come january, he has already indicated that there is going to be no blank check for republicans. for ukraine, aid for ukraine. now it is just going to be a lot more negotiating, even funding the government come next year, is going to be extremely difficult, so that's why democrats want to get as many priorities they can into this must pass government funding bill, and into this must pass, or want to pass defense authorization bill, and the interesting thing is so many of these components can be attached to those bills, including the electoral counteract, the election reform bill, and the
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tax extenders as well. and the child tax credit, but the question is, are republicans going to allow these democratic priorities to be included in this must pass bill. >> before we get there, you well know, this we have leadership elections happening on both side was aisle, think the messier side will be republicans in the new congress, but you also have what democrats are going to do later this week and things seem to be on track for hakkem jeffries for the house of representatives and frustrations around generational lines in which congressman clyburn will remain in leadership. the changing of the guard, if you will, has been smoother than the gop, that seems fairly objectively safe to say, but talk about some of this new reporting and how much this there is consternation about clyburn's presence in this role >> i guess the big difference between republicans and democrats, is that they did most of this hand wringing behind closed doors where republicans have chosen to bring some of it
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out into the public light. and that probably is something to do with the fact that the speakership will be voted on the house floor, and that's a recorded vote, versus the leadership of the minority party will be done behind closed doors. so that end, there was some concern among the younger crop of democrats, expecting that all three of the big leaders who are all october -- octagenarians, stepping aside and there will be those, room for those ascending. and jim clyburn said we like to stay in leadership. and this comes down to who has the votes and clyburn has shown that he has the votes to stay in leadership and that was a negotiated deal, so he will. but he did concede something, in allowing the top three to remain all part of that younger generation, hakeem jeffries of new york leading the way, katherine clark and pete aguilar, there will always be a
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little bit of push and pull with democrats and republicans in congress when it comes to leadership battles. this was done as cleanly as it could possibly could be. the big challenge for democrats and republicans is when they actually start legs lating, are they all going to be able to stay on the same page and passkey votes because there is literally no room for error for either party. >> thank you very much for your reporting. let's get to what we've seen on the hill for the past few hours, kellyanne conway wrapping up a deposition for the house january 6th select committee. you can see her here. she is the senior counselor to the former president during the first three years of the trump administration. now the panel hasn't said specifically when the interview happened because of a scene, but conway told reporters she was there, i'm quoting, voluntarily she said. the deposition comes during the last gasps of the committee which is said to be disbanded by republicans when they take over in january and there will be a final comprehensively report before that happens.
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let's bring in sahil kapur, and talk about what the committee wants to hear from kellyanne conway and what they want to know, and the report i have to imagine will drop in the next couple of weeks. >> it absolutely has to. first on kellyanne conway, this is turning out to be quite the long meeting. she has been interviewing with the january 6th committee for more than four and a half hours now, and exited briefly just to take one short break in that time. that's according to our colleague liz brown kaiser who has eyes on that room. she did say, kellyanne conway did, that she is there voluntarily. we're not aware of any public subpoena at the very least, issued to conway. she said that the last time she spoke to former president trump was last week, when he called her. she declined to divulge any details of that conversation. the january 6th committee has declined to comment on this interview with conway as a standard practice for them. now here is what we know. conway is a long-time top adviser to former president trump, she was not working for him on the day of january 6th, but her proximity to trump's
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orbit makes her a very interesting figure our to this committee. beyond that, there is reporting from the "washington post" that she reached out to an aide to donald trump at the time on the day of january 6th, lending her support for encouraging donald trump to speak out and ask the rioters to go home. the january 6th committee, again they're not saying exactly what they want from conway, but they know the philosophy is to talk to anybody they can speak to because you never know what they are going to learn, you can see on the screen who they're hoping to talk to, one is donald trump himself who has shown no willingness to comply and it is not clear what the committee will do with that. all of this comes as the committee has just 36 days, before it ceases to exist. there is no way the republican controlled house next year will revive it. in that time, they have to finish up these remaining interviews. they have to issue a final report. and the committee has to meet to adopt that final report, which always leaves open the potential for a hearing to do that.
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for a potential final hearing to roll out their finding, the committee has not announced that but they have also not ruled that out. and lastly, one of the big goals of this committee is to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again, and that involves legislative recommendations, making a new law to tighten up election, or rather loopholes in federal law, to make it harder for a future presidential candidate to steal elections, that bill has passed the house, and it is headed to a vote in the lame duck session in the senate. likely has to pass the house again before going to biden's house. but these are the last steps for the january 6th committee before next january on the 3 rz when republicans take over and its work will be over. >> thank you very much. keeping in mind what else is happening in the political landscape. early voting happening in georgia. we're about a week away now from the contest that will decide who the next senator from georgia should be. and one candidate is heading into this thing with more than double the cash of his opponent. democratic incumbent senator raphael warnock with 29 million in the bank, republican herschel
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walker working with just under 10 million. you saw georgians begin casting their ballots already over the last 48 hours after state republicans lost the legal fight to try to keep the polls closed a little longer. guess what, since these polls have been opened something like 160,000 plus georgians have voted in person in just the last couple of days. i want to bring in msnbc correspondent trymaine lee in atlanta for us. talk to me what you have heard from voters today, have they, and many instances in the last few weeks, taken to reconsider who they're voting for and a re-do in november, with one fewer candidate on the ballot? what's your sense? >> reporter: i'll tul you what. you mentioned those numbers, those early voting numbers. 160,000 voters voted in person just today and i'm not even seeing it is 3:0015 yet. and this line is stretching out the door and down the street and this aspirin from the finish line from candidates and voters, i have been randomly talking to folks about that very thing. have you reconsidered?
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have you thought about who you're voting for in a different way? and in everything, they say it hardened their positions even more. i spoke to one mother, a mother of three children and she said she's here because she is mission-driven, she has to be, and she hasn't wavered at all. take a listen. >> i'm a black woman, knowing that this was not always available to us, and i will do anything i need to do to make my voice heard, exercise my right and vote for the candidate that i think will align with my beliefs and my values. someone who values the basic rights of democracy, the principles that our country was founded on. >> hallie, this is about believes and values, and a matter of weeks, that hasn't changed for many voters i spoke with. >> thank you very much in atlanta. coming up on the show, a story you will see first on this broadcast. with keir simmons, meeting with a group of students inside
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the same, and consistent. people should be allowed the right to assemble and to peacefully protest policies or laws or dictates that they take issue with. >> that tracks largely what we've heard from white house officials on paper today. let's bring in nbc foreign correspondent raf sanchez live from london. take us through what the protests are and what is next, raf. >> reporter: we are seeing these protests at a scale and with an audacity that is certainly unprecedented in the ten years that the chinese president xi jingping has been in office, and some people will tell you, really unlike anything we have seen in china since 1989, and the tiananmen square protest, just to give you a sense of the scale, these protests started last week, in a little city all the way in the northwest of china and there was a fire in an apartment building there, and videos on social media, basically show fire crews unable to reach the scene in time to save the lives of ten people who
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died in that fire, seven adults and three kids. and basically, there was a furious reaction that seems that these covid restrictions stopped the fire crew from getting there, and over the weekend, we've seen these protests spread all the way across china, right into the center of beijing, right into the center of shanghai, and it is there in shanghai that we have been hearing these unbelievably daring calls from protesters calling outright for the fall of the chinese come nifrt party and for the fall of xi jingping. now the spark was the fire and the kindling is three years of built-up frustration over these seemingly endless lockdowns. if you live in china right now, you feel the impact of the zero covid policy every single day in the form of pcr tests to get on the subway, pcr tests to go to work, and if somebody in your neighborhood, not even in your building, gets covid, that can mean lockdown for you. that can mean your kids aren't going to school and you're not
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going to work, and people, it seems, are just exhausted. now, it was interesting today, we heard for the first time from the chinese government, the official response to these protests at the ministry of foreign affairs daily briefing, the spokesman basically saying there is nothing to see here, we are sticking with our covid policy and we have confidence in the leadership of xi jingping, in the leadership of the chinese communist party. and you can bet they are watching very, very closely in the white house right now, to see how xi jingping responds. he has some carrots, he could loosen these restrictions that have led to some frustration, but there are a whole lot of sticks and we have seen from xi jingping, with hong kong and the uyghurs and elsewhere, he's not afraid to use them. >> raf sanchez, that's the big question, what will he do next? thank you very much. still ahead on the show, our team with never before seen footage from inside russia. with vladimir putin now facing growing descent in moscow. new fallout at the world cup
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after iran says the u.s. should be banned from tay head of the big game between the two countries tomorrow. meagan fitzgerald has been all over this live from doha. >> reporter: it was an unexpected distraction that team usa says they were blind-sided by, we're going to fill you in with all of the latest details coming up after the break. coming up after the break. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze driftin' on... ♪ [coughing] ♪ ...by, you know how i feel. ♪ if you're tired of staring down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, ♪ ♪ it's a new day... ♪ ...stop settling. ♪ ...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy makes breathing easier for a full 24 hours, improves lung function, and helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed.
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the u.s. has a chance to move on to the next rounds of
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the world cup tomorrow if that team can beat iran but right now the biggest story is happening off the field with iran calling on the u.s. to be kicked out all together. the change that the u.s. team made to the iranian flag on the social media page, team usa players insisting they knew nothing about the flag and the flag has been changed back and the state department says there is no card nation on the decision, which is -- no coordination, on the decision, which is a sign of the solidarity with demonstrators in iran. one player answered this way when asked by a iranian reporter. >> you are okay to be representing the u.s. when there is so much discrimination happening against black people in america? >> there is discrimination everywhere you go. you know, one thing that i've learned, especially from living abroad, in the past years, and having to fit in, in different cultures and kind of
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assimilating to different cultures, is that in the u.s., we're continuing to make progress, every single day. >> joining us now meagan fitzgerald in doha and this illustrates, how much the controversy and the attention of the world cup has nothing to do with soccer and everything to do with the geopolitical rallies that are happening around the teams involved, and in this case, in iran. >> reporter: yes, you're absolutely right, hallie. you know, what we know is that the iranian government obviously was incredibly upset by this, saying that the u.s. soccer federation changed their national flag, they took to twitter, calling on fifa to put some consequences in place, they want the u.s. national team to be suspended for ten games, they're calling on fifa to actually kick them out of the world cup, we spent some time today combing through the disciplinary book and we couldn't find anything that would give fifa grounds to do anything around this with team usa. what it referenced was action that has taken inside the
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stadium. but look, we reached out to fifa, asking them for information about this, and if any steps could be taken, and what those would look like and we have not heard from fifa, as you mentioned, we talked to team usa and the players and they say they were blind-sided by, this and they knew nothing about the u.s. soccer federation's intention to remove the emblem. but what they did say is they stand in solidarity with the women of iran that are fighting for basic human rights, fighting for change. they stand with human rights across the board and they stand with women's rights. but as you said, we're seeing the infusion of politics, human rights, collide with sports, and team usa says they have a big game tomorrow, and while they do stand with iran, they empathize with the country, and what they're experiencing right now, their focus is on the game tomorrow, and the important game, because a win means that team usa gets to advance in this tournament, and of course, a loss means they're heading home, hallie. >> meagan fitzgerald, live for us in doha, thank you for staying on top of it.
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appreciate it. to a never before seen look in russia and growing opposition to president vladimir putin coming from a group of students in moscow, you can see them here, their faces are hidden so they can speak freely against the russian immediater. clear simmons who you see on the over side of the bench and earlier in the show, we talked about the extraordinary dissent inside china against that leader and you have something similar, obviously different reasons happening inside russia, with more people now speaking out against putin. talk us through it. and as somebody who has spent a lot of time in russia, what stood out to you as you were having some of these conversations? >> they're different pictures, hallie. on the one hand, on russian state television, we're now seeing criticism of the plans before the invasion of ukraine, and how it has played out in ways that we simply haven't seen in the past. even though on russian state television questioning the whole idea of the invasion. and that has been pretty
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extraordinary to see just in recent weeks. and then you have this extraordinary frustration that i felt, when i sat down with these five students, when i was in moscow, they are frustrated because from their perspective, they don't think actually things are going to change. i asked them, put up your hand if any of you think there are going to be mass protests often the streets that change, on the streets that change the leadership of russia and nobody put their hands up. take a listen to how they describe it to the emotional toil that they say it is taking. >> do you feel, you feel that you can do anything to help them, you just want to go to ukraine and say, stop it, and i think it is the choice of my generation, and we want this to
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end. we want to live in peace. >> hallie, it is incredibly brave for them to speak out at all like that. even without their faces shown. the punishment can be serious. but at the same time, they wanted to speak because they want people to know that even while they have stopped going to protests because of the way that those protests have been crushed they at the same time want people to know that there are those in russia who are opposed to what is happening. and we want to say, too, by the way there are many people in russia who support vladimir putin, support the action in ukraine, absolutely, for all kinds of different reasons. >> keir simmons live for us in new york from the reporting when you were in russia. thank you very much for that. we will look forward to seeing more of your reporting tonight on "nbc nightly news" with lester holt, that's coming up at 6:30 eastern, wherever you watch your local nbc station. next up, arizona counties facing a deadline to certify the midterm election results today. and there is already a holdout.
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in arizona, the midterm elections are not over yet. not technically, at least. and it looks like they will last a little bit longer, that's because at least one county facing today's deadline to certify the mid term election
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results in that critical state wit will not meet that county, cochise county voting to delay to friday, and mojave county is pushing back to 4:00 p.m. eastern and maricopa county has not voted yet because of hours of public comment and attacks on officials and bible reading at a rather extraordinary special meeting. watch. >> every single one of you ought to be ashamed of how arizona is now the laughing stock of the nation because maricopa county is inept. >> this is found in the book of psalms chapter 58. justice you high and mighty politicians don't even know the meaning of the word fairness, which of you has any left, not one. >> all of it of course is republican kari lake is still refusing to accept her election
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loss in the governor's race in that state, a state where voters chose to reject election deniers on the ballot. let's bring in brahm resnick, a friends of the show, with kpnx, we know one county is delays and the secretary of state office, and the office run by the governor-elect is planning to file a lawsuit with cochise later today. why what is the drama going on in arizona and why has it not been put to bed yet? >> cochise is the new one, and this is not a technicality, this is the law, they have to certify the election by today. cochise says they will not do it until friday and they have been creating showdowns with the secretary of state for weeks now, and because they voted today to come back on friday, miss can deadline, the secretary of state of arizona, governor-elect katie hobbs will
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sue cochise county to compel them to certify the election. mojave county in 2020 they dilly-dallied about certifying the election, went ahead and did it and looking at what cochise is doing and saying hold my beer, let's think about this and decide what we're going to do here. >> bottom line, brahm, is it expected that the results, however it happens, by the end of the day, not literally but figure tifl, by the end of the next x period of time, these results that we have projected will be certified by the state, yes? >> so the state is supposed to certify the results a week from today. governor doocy will be there as a witness. the attorney general is supposed to be there as a witness. meantime, one of his assistant ags is investigating maricopa county's election, with questions of her own and don't know if they will show up and katie hobbs as seblt secretary of of state will certify the results. i'm expecting a lot more drama
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before we get to next monday. >> what does it say to you, that drama, that that is where your state is right now and what does it say about what we could expect in 2024 where there is a lot on the line in the presidential election. >> january 6th never ended. 2020 is very much alive here. we're seeing the same kind of denial we saw back in 2020. remember what happened in november, right after the election, outside of maricopa county election headquarters? same things we saw with trump, we're seeing it again with kari lake. it has nothing to do with the actual elections. >> it has to do with a refusal to accept the results. with casting doubt on the elections. and with delegitimizing an historic victory by democrats here in arizona. and this will continue into 2024, i predict. >> brahm resnick, and of course to see you with your knowledge and breadth and depth of arizona politics. appreciate you on the show. we have news from the senate floor since we've been on the air. democratic leader chuck schumer
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denouncing that controversial dinner to say the least between donald trump and ye, the rapper formally known as kanye west and white supremacist nick fuentes. >> for a former president to sit down and have dinner with a high profile anti-semite is disgusting and dangerous, and to give an anti-semite a small platform, much less an audience over dinner is pure evil. >> it may not be surprising that democrats are denouncing donald trump and what about republicans, we heard from susan colins so far. listen. >> i condemn white supremacy, and anti-semitism. the president should never have had a meal or even a meeting with nick nuentes. >> and rep senator bill cassy writing on twitter, president trump hosting racist
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anti-semites for dinner encourages other racist anti-semites. these attitudes are immoral and should not be entertained. this is not the republican party. what will we hear from the gop's biggest leaders? so far nothing yet and mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy and the former president are insisting they didn't know anything about fuentes. i want to bring in natalie allison. this is the backdrop for south carolina -- for something you have been reporting on. and the former president looking to run a 2024 campaign and having a dinner widely condemned except by some in his own party and frankly by the former president himself. and we have some new reporting now about, a state level reckoning against the former president with one of his die-hard allies, gubernatorial candidate in pennsylvania, saying he will not back mr. trump in 20 24rks and barletta says i was one of the most loyal support ners congress but loyalty was only a one way
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street. where does this so-called reckoning stand? >> that's right, hallie. to your point, we're not seeing right now top republicans coming out and condemning trump left and right but we are seeing something happening at the state level with state party chairs, with contests surrounding who is going to take over the state parties in 2023 and the next couple of months, we're going to see months, like michigan, like arizona, pivotal swing states, make a decision about what kind of person the republican base wants to be their leader. and we are starting to see cracks there. another thing at the state level, we saw governor brian kemp in georgia today obviously not one of trump's closest allies, but he condemned the trump statements. so we are seeing a number of republicans at the state level beginning to speak out more and more against trump, in recent days. >> so what you've identified as somewhat of a split between national republicans, state republicans, and a look at michigan, where a gop operative told you that for the republicans to have any chance
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in michigan come 2024, a really important state by the way, the leadership has to be changed, and in their words a ton hangs on the decisions that will be made in the coming weeks and months. you think about decisions to be made in the coming weeks and months not just the state level but nationally, we've got news today that mike lindell, the ceo of my pillow, a noted conspiracy theorist pushing his election lies, he's announcing he will run against his opponent for the chair of the rnc, and it looks ahead to the republican party as they look ahead in 2024. >> that is right. and the question is, are we going to nominate people who are just as trump-y as these current republican chairs, as mike line dell would obviously not be a departure from having this pro-trump position. and you know, in arizona, for example, kelly ward, she's a die-hard maga supporter. she announced she is not going to seek re-election as party chair but that doesn't mean that someone who is maybe a trump
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skeptic or someone who is more establishment will take her place. in state parties all across the country we've seen over the last few years that lining their lower ranks with people who are very loyal to trump, and the precinct committee people, county leaders, things just like that, so just because some of these very pro-trump state party leaders are potentially stepping down or open to a challenge doesn't mean they will be establishment republicans taking their place. >> natalie with "politico," thank you very much for being with us. appreciate it. still ahead, it is the best day of the year, if you're obsessed with online shopping. we will talk about what shoe know on this cyber monday and the potential for supply chain issues and a whole slew of other headlines coming up. ther headlines coming up. ♪ ♪ jerry, you've got to see this. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks it gets a little old. i really should be retired by now. wish i'd invested when i had the chance... to the moon!
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beating heart of cyber monday a best buy in new jersey. talk to us about online trends and shopping and what it means as there's a lot of concern that we may be heading into a recession if we're not there already. >> you know what, it got off to a strong start to the holiday season, happy holidays to you, hallie, a holiday season a lot of people thought might be dampened by inflation, but cyber monday spending increased in the best buy fulfillment center and this follows a record black friday. it is showing encouraging signs about the consumer. i want to show you some numbers. these are the numbers from the black friday weekend. look at the friday online spending. $101 per online checkout. and if you look at the entire weekend, from friday to sunday, that jumped up to $113 per online checkout. and again, showing that strengthening consumer. and then looking at some emerging trends. looking at a record number of online buys, this cyber monday,
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being, excuse me, black friday weekend, being done on mobile phones, 52%, compared to less than that a year ago and more people decided they will go to the stores than get their numbers sent to them and curbside pickup numbers falling year over year. and looking at signs over inflation, with consumers, what you might want to look at, buy now pay later numbers. buy now pay later spending jumped 72% last week from the week before, and people are buying lower priced items from the year before and the items are cheaper and they're using it more often. so something to watch as people continue their holiday spending throughout the rest of the holiday season. >> thank you, frank. so let's talk about the consequences of what happened to ftx, the big crypto company that imploded. you're seeing the ripple effect firm block fi declaring bankruptcy today. in the court filing they said they had more than 100,000 creditors with liabilities and assets reaching as much as $10 billion joining us for now is
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kate rooney. kate, this is an interesting moment for crypto. there was that incredibly high profile meltdown over at ftx, the legal fight on that is set to stretch for months if not years. now you have block fi declaring bankruptcy. what does it say? what should people take away from this about the reliability and stability of crypto world in general? >> hallie, this is really symptomatic of this domino effect across all of those high profile crypto companies and the big domino to fall recently you mentioned it ftx. you probably have heard that name by now, it was one of the world's biggest global crypto exchanges, people would go there to buy and sell crypto krens yeens run by sam bankman freed. he was spending hundreds of millions of dollars on that effort, flash forward to where we're sitting today in november, ftx going through its own high profile bankruptcy and one of
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the companies that had agreed that ftx had agreed to buy was blockfi. this morning it filed for bankruptcy and blamed ftx, called out some of the contagion effects that investors have been worried about. in a filing they said this was due to the unprecedented and expedited collapse of ftx and said that what looked like a rescue back in the summer and it sort of stabilized blockfi they say that was short lived, it's struggling through its own bankruptcy. customers cannot access their funds. they don't know if and when they will get that money back. that's a consistent theme we're seeing play out in crypto. people have used exchanges, have their money locked up, a lot is shaking investor confidence. bitcoin is down 65% or so this year. >> over at disney what's old is new again with bob iger back and in a new employee meeting painting a picture of why he
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plans to take the company next. in a town hall today he's telling staffers, yes, that hiring freeze that is going to stay in place. he says disney is not going to try to make any new acquisitions anytime soon but they have to shift their focus to make sure their streaming service is profitable and he said that iger's wife told him to go back to disney so he wouldn't run for president, a bit tongue in cheek there. alex sherman, your reporting that disney is basically counting on iger to make hard decisions about where its future s how it handles streaming, how it handles the linear or traditional tv assets. talk to us about that. what changes people outside the business nerd world may actually see from iger's takeover. >> we were light on details today at the town hall and that's not surprise. remember bob iger just took this job last week, it was a surprise to him that it came together so quickly. not to say he hasn't thought about perhaps potential changes he may makes in the months since he completely stepped away from
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disney which was at the very end of december of 2021. he hasn't been ceo since 2020. as he steps pack to disney it's a little bit of a different world from the disney he left. as you mentioned one of the big differences is that before in 2020 the main thing wall street was looking for was growth in the streaming services. so how many more subscribers can you add each quarter to disney plus and hulu and espn plus, those are the three big streaming networks, streaming services for disney. now it's a different ball game. investors are looking for profitability. they want to say, okay, great, you can add subscribers, we want these businesses to look good. so that's on the streaming side of things. on the other side of things which is the traditional linear cable tv, bob iger actually made some very interesting remarks back in september when he was not disney's ceo. he said at the code conference that linear tv was marching toward a precipice and at some point eventually it was going to
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fall off. in other words, cable tv as we know it would at some point go to zero, it would disappear. those are easy comments to make when you are not the ceo of disney. now that he's back in that role he inn hashts a company that assay lot of cable networks including espn by far the biggest most lucrative cable network out there. that's one of the biggest decisions he is going to have to make. how does he refigure disney? does it mean spinning off espn, spinning off some of those legacy cable networks that disney owns? all of those things are going to be on his plate as he takes over this job. >> and real quick, alex, i have to think morale, probably a little shaky for folks at disney, too, if not morale the uncertainty around the fact that there is a broader macro economic picture here that isn't amazing no matter what company you are in. >> if you were to ask me why did bob iger get the job morale may be the number one reason. bob chapek did a lot of the
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