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back in town and back in action in the building behind me on capitol hill as we come on the air with lawmakers moving full steam ahead to try and keep the trains on the tracks, literally. but we're just here on the new developments to get a bill on the floor before workers walk off the job. also this hour, you've got the senate starting the last of the last votes on a bill that would help protect marriage equality. we've got our team standing by with the latest including new comments from the senate leadership. plus, news first here on msnbc. the new federal fight in mississippi for clean drinking water. what the justice department is announcing this afternoon to try to solve jackson's water crisis. and the global showdown going down now in doha. team usa up against iran as we speak in a world cup match with action on and off the field. we've got a live report coming up. i'm hallie jackson with you in washington and i want to bring in sahil, ali is with us, too.
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ali, let's start with the work to avoid a rail strike. we just heard from the white house press secretary that the president is confident there will not be a rail strike. are congressional leaders on your end of pennsylvania avenue having the same kind of confidence there's not going to be one? >> depends on which one you talk to. here on the house side, nancy pelosi in the last few minutes said she felt confident this bill would pass the house. they're going to bring it up tomorrow but when it gets to the senate, things get sticky. some reticence on the part of democrats and republicans weighing in here when this is something that could be a union negotiated issue. >> i don't like going against the ability of unions to strike but weighing the equities, we
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must avoid a strike. jobs will be lost. >> nobody wants the economy to fail. nobody wants this to happen. but this is another situation where an administration told us one thing. just like they told us about inflation. it's transitory. we found it was not. >> mccarthy there notably playing a bit of politics, which is notable because we're watching the way he's interacting with this administration just weeks before he could be the next speaker of the house giving us a little preview of what divided government could look like once we get into january, but first before we get there, we have to see them avert this rail strike and they have a few options. i'll put up on the screen for you. they could do the second point there, which is involuntarily impose the original labor agreement, but they could also give an extension for a cooling off period. just give everybody more time to get to a deal that union workers are more happy with then there's the ability to modify the
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original agreement to resolve the disputes. i think what's clear here in congress is that they had a long to do list for this lame duck period but now this is something that has come out with great urgency here in the halls of congress. a lot of lawmakers frankly feel they're playing a bit of catch up, but it's clear they are going to need to deal with this on a short time frame and this is not a building that does well with short deadlines. >> although they do better with deadlines than none. so the pressure of that would be inspiring some motion one would think and you're right this has rocketed up the to do list for lawmakers, but we know protecting same-sex marriage has been on the to do list for democrats for a while now. sounds like the last of the last vote is going to happen in the next couple of hours. >> that's right. the bill is in good shape to pass and the recent deal today was designed as a detour around any speed bumps so the situation
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broadly is that the legislation has more than the 60 votes it needs in the senate. the republican opponents can't stop it, but they can drag this out for several days and run out the clock and burn some time that democrats feel they don't have in the lame duck session. so what party leaders said is we'll give you some amendments, hold the final vote at a 60-vote threshold. republicans agreed to hold that series of votes today. i spoke today to tammy baldwin, the lead author of the respect for marriage act who said she expects all those amendments to fail and the bill to pass. this was after she revised the bill to include additional protections for religious freedom. the federal government is not required to protect polygamy to get the necessary votes. so there's a lot of optimism. i want to play what chuck schumer had to say earlier. >> first on the docket is the
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passage for respect for marriage. passing the bill is our chance to send a message to americans everywhere no matter who you are, who you are or who you love, you, too, deserve dignity and equal treatment under the law. >> now specifically what this bill does is that it codifies federal protections for same-sex marriages that were validly issued under state law. in addition, it protects interracial marriage in case -- as expected, the bill passes the senate, returns to the house where it needs another vote because of the revisions. it should pass then on president biden's desk for signature in the lame duck session before republicans take control of the house and have the power to stop it. >> i know you were yelling because we could barely hear you. we love hearing what we could hear of it. so thank you very much. we'll work on your mike
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situation. ali, thank you as well. lots of moving pieces today. not just where sahil and ali are. in just the last hour, mcconnell is making his first remarks on the dinner former president trump had with a white nationalist and holocaust denier. >> there is no room in the republican party for anti semitism or white supremacy. and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view in my judgment are highly unlikely to ever be president of the united states. >> here's the thing. after that, mcconnell was asked if he would still vote for donald trump should he won the party's 2024 nomination. didn't say yes or no, but you got his comments, the most powerful leader, have called out
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mr. trump for hosting this dinner which also featured who is also made anti semitic comments recently. kanye west. garrett, just to lay the landscape of the last call it four or five days, the dinner happened. the news came out about the dinner. people were appropriately disturbed to see the former president dining and having this dinner with a noted white nationalist and anti semite. then the question became so what is the republican party going to do about it. monday morning, didn't hear a lot. a little bit like susan collins. mitt romney. today, mitch mcconnell. no surprise mcconnell is not a huge fan of donald trump. it is interesting, i guess i would ask you. you cover both mcconnell and mr. trump. do you see this as significant break? of where mcconnell's head is at?
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talk us through. >> it's certainly a signal of where mcconnell's head is at, which is that he would like to have nothing to do with trump so long as the two men walk this earth. mcconnell has been done with trump for quite some time but has said that he would still vote for trump again if he were the republican party's nominee. what we're seeing right now is a republican party trying to take an opportunity to take what amounts to a political layup here. it is the easiest thing in the world politically to condemn anti semitism and white supremacy. you'll note mcconnell did not condemn trump by name. that's the tight rope all of these republican leaders are trying to walk here, but i think the other dynamic is this is not the campaign rollout that donald trump thought he was going to have. he was hoping to consolidate the republican party behind him either through love or fear and he's not scaring anybody. take a listen to two of the top republican officials in this country. his former vice president and perhaps the next speaker
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commenting on donald trump in the last 24 hours. >> president trump was wrong to give a white nationalist, an anti semite and holocaust denier a seat at the table. i think he should apologize for it. >> the president had meetings with who he was, i don't think anybody should have a meeting with nick fuentes and his views are nowhere within the republican party or this country. >> so in the republican political sphere here, those comments amount to a pretty significant break with donald trump, but if anyone believes it's a permanent one, i have two words. access and hollywood. this is someone who has survived much scandal. >> or john mccain. pick your words there. >> precisely. so take your pick. but i think -- i was going to say it's incumbent on donald trump to get those people back in his camp.
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he's going to keep his hands off the georgia race. the way he's gotten people back after these other scandals is by winning. he won the 2016 election. put in place policies these other republicans liked. how does he do that now as a candidate with no events on his calendar out in the country. i don't know. that's his challenge to solve. >> and the challenge i think for the party feels like is there any reason to believe and i think for people sort of watching what the party does, is there reason to believe this time will be different? you note we have seen this movie before. again and again. and for all the talk, god, how many times since 2015 have we had these conversations. is this the end for donald trump? it usually isn't. inside the republican party despite what it means for his run in the white house. that's different now? >> there are two school of thought when it comes to the people who want to be rid of
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trump in the republican party. either you ignore him and hope he goes away. that's the mcconnell strategy. or go at him directly. the liz cheney strategy. what will ultimately work is somebody has to beat him. somebody has to get into the republican primary and win more votes than donald trump. that's the only other way this ends. otherwise for this party, the gop, they're going to be answering questions about situations like this because we know there will be more. once every couple of weeks or so for the next several years. >> garrett haake live for us on the hill. thank you very much. let's talk about what else is going down on the hill. with the january 6th select committee still doing work, meeting with one of the men who helped oversee security for the then president, tony ornato. he's already met with the committee this year, but lawmakers wanted to hear from him again after the public testimony from cassidy hutchison
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in june. she told her president trump was angry at his detail for not taking him to the capitol on the day of the insurrection and reached towards the driver seat. >> i looked at tony. he had said did you effing hear what happened in the beast? tony described him as being i rate. the president something to the effect of i'm the effing president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up to the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. >> ryan, the committee has talked to multiple member of the secret service lately. the question is how these conversations play. there's a final report we think is going to be issued sometime in the next few weeks here. >> they've got it get it done by december 31st. they are very interested in the
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secret service role and in particular, tony ornato, who they heard from today, and bobby engel, who they heard from right before thanks giving. they are the two key characters in the bombshell testimony where she claimed the president was irate in the suv demanding to go to the capitol. right after her testimony, the secret service pushed back saying it wasn't 100% accurate. it's important to point out the committee had talked to both men but before they talked to hutchison. they're trying to close the loop, find the inconsistencies. there was also a level that ornato may not have been 100% honest in his first round ofd testimony. they're trying to clear that up with his testimony today and as you mentioned, they've got to find the time to put it in this final report in the next couple of weeks. >> thank you very much for that. coming up, president biden, who is set to speak about the
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economy soon. we think in the next 15 minutes as we're learning about his push to free americans from russia. plus, the new york city mayor making a major mental health policy change that could have a big impact on the homeless population as some people are already pushing back this afternoon. we'll tell you why. but first, the most important soccer game perhaps as we have seen in decades happening as we speak. we've got the political tensions and possible fallout in just 60 seconds. stay with us. we're back in a minute. ck in a e [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand elderberry.
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we've seen iranian players and the national anthem ahead of the match with team usa happening right now. if you're watching this show, i assume it's okay if i give you a spoiler on the score. good news for team usa fans.
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i'm told to say 1 nil. the match is a good one for team usa. win or go home. that is the showdown, but the most watched event in the world playing out literally against the backdrop of political tensions running high now between washington and tehran over the wave of anti regime protests in iran and you know what's gone down after the last 24, 48 hours. after the u.s. soccer federation tweeted out an altered iranian flag. i want to bring in megan, lindsey in new york. megan, so much of what is happening at the world cup is about the action that is not happening on the field. not at this moment when the game's going on. i love that our viewers are watching both, but i was interested to see the secretary of state saying today let's let the athletes do their thing, but this is more than just a regular
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soccer match. there's an undeniable geopolitical backdrop here. >> reporter: you're right. this is a tournament that is infused with politics. as you mentioned, we just saw the other day the u.s. soccer federation trying to make a stand in solidarity with the women of iran that are fighting for basic human rights. we saw and you and i have been talking ant the iranian men standing on that global platform not singing their nation's national anthem and the statement that sent. so what we are seeing as this resistance and we know that billions of eyes are watching the world cup so they're leveraging this platform to send a message to the world and the world is watching and listening. >> let me turn to you because you're watching the match with fans here in the u.s. are they talking about the politics overlaying this match? i'm assuming they're talking about how many beers they're
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going to order at 3:15 in the afternoon, but you tell me. >> yes. the focus is on the game. the wings, the beer, yes. but these fans are die hard. they know about all of that tension behind the scenes. some fans have told me you can't separate the two. others told me they kind of wish that the u.s. soccer federation hadn't sort of waded into that because they like everything to be separate. let's listen to what some people told me. >> i think it's a shame because it's much better to keep the politics out of the sport if possible. >> i just focusing on the game itself. that's it. >> i feel like that's put in the background to distract the players, but i'm just focused on the soccer. >> all right. so people like they just said, they're focusing on the game. they think the u.s. men's team is looking really good, strong, confident on both sides of the ball, but of course like you said, you can't separate the two. >> thank you.
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megan, thanks to you as well. now to what president biden is doing. he is taking the stage in michigan. i think he's still in the beginning. i don't know if we have peter alexander or if we want to dip in and listen. i know the president is in wind up to this speech. can you give us a 30-second preview? >> the pack backdrop to the speech in michigan where he's trying to focus on the economy is the risk of a rail strike. as you saw this morning, the president hosting the top two democrats and republicans in the house and senate. nancy pelosi among those there. the president warning that the reason congress would need to get involved with legislation to put an end to this dispute is because in his words, the economy is at risk. nancy pelosi saying the house could move on that action, which would be a challenge for joe biden's support among the union committee because he's been one of the most pro union presidents
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we've had. now we can listen to the president. >> stand by. president biden is beginning his remarks there in bay city, michigan. >> democratic values and we're seeing here today business leaders at home and abroad recognize the importance of your leadership. it's not a small item. it's significant. and debbie and gary both close friends had to be in washington today but i want to say thanks to them. true leaders in the senate. tireless fighters. representative dan kilde, we rode up together. one of the most effective members in the united states congress and a good friend. he really is. thanks for your partnership for the past couple of years. you're doing a lot to revitalize american manufacturing in michigan and the country. and representative slotkin came
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up in the plane with me. is she here today? there you are. i love her. i'm very careful with her because she's former cia. i'm really worried. she, good to see you. thanks for your work on so many important issues in the state and everything you do to support servicewomen and men and our veterans all over the world. and all those issues that as my dad used to say, we used to talk about the kitchen table. they're the bread and butter issue and we work like hell on all of them. appreciate it. i also want to thank the leaders of sk, css and i met with some of their folks as well in korea. they're a first rate operation and they're going to create a lot of good paying jobs here. they're going to do that pretty soon. i recently got back from a trip around the world. you know the around the world in
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80 day, well i did it in six. started in egypt, guam, then came on home. we were in a meeting in indonesia, with g20. 20 largest economies in the world. it was clear in those meetings that the rest of the world views the united states as better positioned than any other nation to lead the world economy in the 21st century. that's not a joke. we have a strong sense of what all the leaders in the world look to us about. they see resilience in the american economy. and we're seeing that here at home as well with investments like we're going to talk about today. together, with the help of your elected leadership today, we have an extraordinary two years of progress. we passed the american rescue plan. now, everybody knows that we did so much know one knows the effects of it yet. just coming into play.
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what that little plan did with the billions of dollars spent is we kept thousands of firefighters, teachers, first responders on the job because they lost income because of the significant reduction in employment in those states. provided them the money to be able to keep everyone employed. we fully vaccinated. when i came to office, there were 2 million people vaccinated. we vaccinated 220 million people, saving thousands of lives. and we're building infrastructure and governor, we're fixing the damn road. when i campaigned for the first time she ran for governor, ran on a platform, fix the damn roads. stuck in my mind. i kept my promise. we're going to fix your damn roads in a big way. bridges and airports as well. and we're lowering prescription drug costs.
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a senior citizen on medicare, the fact is it won't take effect until january 1st, but from that point on, you pay $35 for your insulin. not $400 a month for your insulin. >> you have been listening to president biden laying out his economic agenda with the backdrop of something peter alexander was explaining to us on the way into this speech, this rail strike. in the midst of like the holiday season, the shipping season, et cetera. this is a key issue to state the obvious and i'm sorry to do so, but it's a key issue for the white house. who knew that the economy matters to the president. i know that's shocking coming out of my mouth. but yes. >> i was going to say coming out of the pandemic obviously there were real concerns and problems that we witnessed with delays in the supply chain and the fear here at the white house and frankly throughout the country right now is that a rail strike
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which would afgt hundreds of thousands of rail workers throughout this country would have a real impact on the supply chain right now heading into the holidays. affecting everything from coal and lumber to chlorine to cars and other goods that are shipped across the country by train. the trucking association even in the last several days saying it would take almost half a million new trucks, additional trucks on the road to make up for that gap if it were to happen here. but again, the bottom line right now appears that after the president called for it, that there is support within congress right now to move forward with legislative action which would basically override the agreements, the back and forth that's been taking place between the rail industry and unions there, which is a gamble for president biden. the most pro labor president over the course of his time in office. this is a message to some of
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those in the labor union saying we have to do this because the economy has so much at risk and they undercut their own messaging and desires here. the agreement that had been pushed back on by about four of the 12 unions right now added wages for them but it didn't do enough in the eyes of some of these union groups in terms of paid sick leave. they don't get paid sick leave. they want that and that is a major sticking point. >> peter alexander, lovely to see you. thank you, friend, for being with us. talk about what else is going down. new this afternoon here in washington, this coming in from the justice department which is taking some new legal action against jackson, mississippi for the water crisis that is still ongoing in that city. they're filing a lawsuit against jackson for failing to provide safe drinking water there. the doj is also putting forward a proposal to improve the public water system. improvements that are badly needed in that town. i want to bring in yamiche. we know the doj has increased its focus on environmental
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justice recently. this seems to b part of that broader push, but what is this actually do for people in jackson? how is this going to make a difference to their actual lives? >> it's a great question and we were the first to report this news at nbc that the doj was taking this new legal action trying to address the water crisis as ongoing in jackson, mississippi. they are asking first for a third party through a proposed order that's been filed in federal court. they're asking for a third party to come in and take over the water system. i want to put up what that would be. they would operate and maintain the public drinking system. also take charge of billing for water usage and improve conditions within the system that endanger the health of the city's residents. that's what would happen for residents. they would get a new entity dealing with a water system. the attorney general is out talking about this lawsuit this
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is against the city. he said in part the department of justice takes seriously its responsibility to keep the american people safe and to protect their civil rights. together with other partners at epa, we will continue to seek justice for the residents of jackson, mississippi, we will continue to prioritize cases in the communities most burdened by environmental harm. now part of what the attorney general is saying here is that the doj has had a new priority on environmental justice. we've seen them open up investigations in alabama over failing sewage systems. we've seen them in texas looking at illegal dumping. i talked to a number of doj officials including kristen clark and she tells me this is part of the mission of the doj. part of their ability to protect civil rights violations in this country and to really take localities to task. now the doj said there's an agreement between the city and the mississippi state health department to go for that third party so what we're seeing is an agreement being filed by the
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court, but they are still negotiating so if you're on the ground in mississippi now and you're wondering is the water safe, is this going to change my life? is doj is saying we're trying to get there. >> thank you for being on this reporting for this for us. good to see you. still ahead, the new directive in new york city for police and other emergency workers to involuntary hospitalize people they think have significant mental illness. that's after the break. l illnes. that's after the break nt's frage disappears in the dryer? downy in-wash scent boosters survive the washer & dryer for freshness that lasts 6 times longer than detergent alone. release freshness with every touch... with downy in-wash scent boosters. we all have a purpose in life - a “why.” no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why? it's your last chance to shop wayfair's cyber week! save on kitchen and dining furniture up to 50% off. so let us focus on the how.
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in new york city today, a potentially significant policy shift that would take people suspected to have mental illness off the city streets, out of the city subways. this is coming from mayor adams who says the city is now telling police and other emergency workers that should involuntary hospitalize people they think have significant mental illness. the city is going to start training officers to ensure compassionate care. >> the very nature of their illnesses keeps them from realizing they need intervention and support. without that intervention, they remain lost and isolated from society, tormented by delusions and disordered thinking. >> tom winter is here to cover the story. explain more about how this works, the legality of it, the reaction since it's been announced just a few hours ago. >> so this is not an
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insignificant population in the city, those that have such significant mental health issues that they cannot take care of themselves. it's something that police, social workers, even homeless people say this has really reached a crisis level and anybody who's spent time in the city subways can tell you the same. the real focus is that under new york state law if somebody's posing a danger to themselves or others, you can involuntarily remove them from the streets or subway system. from there, they're taken to the hospital and receive 24 to 48 hours of care, sometimes longer. if you go to the courts and testify that person should be held so they can get the appropriate treatment, now the mayor says look, i am directing these city agencies that if somebody cannot take care of
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themselves, they're in a situation that they could potentially pose a hazard to others or themselves, that's the time to remove them. not until somebody gets hurt, the least of which those that are obviously having mental health issues. the legality of this, that's going to be a big question mark because the city, the state's law rather is pretty narrowly focused. the city says and admits, the case law here is not very deep. it may or may not be on our side, but we believe that under the law, we have the ability to do that. the new york city civil liberties union coming out with a statement talking just to that point saying the mayor's playing fast and loose to quote them with the legal rights of new yorkers and is not dedicating the resources necessary to address the mental health crisis you can be assured that there will be numerous court cases on this issue as this plays out. the words you used are the most accurate in that this is a policy change. you're not going to see 10,000
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cops on the subways tomorrow trying to enforce this or medics at every subway station, but it is an effort to help those who cannot help themselves and the most vulnerable in our society. >> thank you. next up, talk about what china is doing now to try to crack down on the protests against covid lockdowns. plus, the new concerns from the family of paul whalen and what the white house says they're doing to try to get him and brittney griner out of russia. o try to get him and brittney griner out of russia you've put your dreams on hold.
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today in china, streets that were full of protesters not too long ago are now walled off, guarded, with police cracking down in big cities in that country. even looking at people's phones, searching for pictures or messaging apps that could link them to those rare and extraordinary demonstrations. around the world, students in at least a dozen cities joined in protests. want to bring in raf sanchez from london. china's promising better covid rules. on the other, they're silencing protests. when we talked 24 hours ago, what does xi do. it is not the answer these demonstrators wanted to see. >> definitely not. we talked about -- able to xi as he decides how he's going to deal with this. but the sticks in a major, major
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way in the form of thousands of police officers in the centers of cities across china. in shanghai where we heard the most daring chants over the weekend, the people who dared the chant, down with the chinese communist party, down with xi jinping. there's an enormous barrier. you can't get to the road where those protests happened over the weekend. in other cities, chinese authorities are closed subway lines, stopping people from getting into the city center and in some places, they are stopping people on the street, forcing them to open their phone and going through that phone looking for evidence you have been to a protest or are going to one. so they have largely succeeded in pushing back the kind of mass protests we have seen. we are still seeing clashes. in guangzhou in the south, we saw a crowd basically rip down a covid testing tent which just gives you a sense of the scale of the anger for people who have
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lived under this three-year seemingly never ending lockdown. there are some carrots, we heard from china's national health commission today and they said they are going to speed up the vaccination of elderly people, which is really an acknowledgment of something we've known for a long time, that china's vaccination program is a lot slower than the rest of the world and part of the reason the chinese government has clung so strongly to this zero covid policy is they know if they ease the lockdown, it is likely case numbers and hospitalizations will go up and that deaths will go up. so this acknowledgment today seems to indicate that they are trying to get themselves out of this corner. the national health commission also criticized local authorities who it said had kind of overzealously enforced covid laws so that kind of looks like the central government trying to shift the blame to local authorities. but for now, it does look like xi has succeeded in his
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immediate goal, which is to make sure that today there were not protests on the scale that there have been in the last week or so. >> thank you for that reporting. the white house says u.s. diplomats in moscow are trying to find out more about how paul whalen is doing. his family sounding the alarm today saying they haven't heard from him in days. they say he told them if you haven't heard from me in three days, you should get worried, call the u.s. embassy. he missed his scheduled call from them on thanksgiving. i want to bring in monica alba. talk to me about what we know now. where he is, how he's doing, what is his condition? his family saying today, obviously they're worry about him every day he's in captivity, but when they haven't heard from him in this period of time, they start to worry with specificity. >> highly unusual for this to
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occur, especially on thanksgiving, according to his brother. a day he would have wanted to call and make contact with his family. he gave them that directive, if you haven't heard from me for our scheduled calls, reach out to the embassy. that's why president biden and those in the national security council are working together to see what information they can get. right now, they don't have a very good answer. they say they are still trying to determine more about what he would have missed this call. is he suffering from some medical issue? in the past, he's been transported elsewhere for something like that. so they're still working on that as u.s. continues to negotiate behind the scenes according to a top diplomat in moscow, to see if potentially there will be a prisoner exchange for not just paul, but also brittney griner who we know is being held in a in the most recent weeks. so the u.s. still trying to see if this is possible. channels of communication
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continue. this is something that there had been renewed hope for potentially after the u.s. midterms but could be more conversations that perhaps president putin would want to see if this exchange for a russian arms dealer was going to happen, but right now, there are just more questions about how paul is doing right now. >> monica, thank you. next up, an inside look at america's airport reno boom. which spots you may fly in or out of are finally getting some long needed makeovers and what it means for your next trip. phil lebeau is with us on that coming up. trip. phil lebeau is with us on that coming up. 't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance
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prepare yourselves, folks, for extreme makeover, airport edition, all across the country. at airports like denver, newark, l.a.x., putting the finishing touches on long-needed renovations. a lot of those projects were put into motion with president biden's infrastructure bill. the goal, of course, is to help people navigate these sprawling airports more easily, getting them to their gates on time, giving airlines the space to expand. cnbc's airline reporter is joining us from chicago. a lot of people were like, yes, please, my airport needed it. take us through it. >> well, this is basically what we've seen over the last several years. the realization that we need more airport space, more gates, more room for really to handle more flights and passengers.
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some of these projects, they've been completed. you see it in new york at laguardia. huge improvement there. but you're also seeing other airports now finishing their projects. denver adding more gates in the b-terminal. they need that, because they're adding more flights and there's more passengers than ever in denver. orlando adding a new terminal because it has more flights going in there. and you will see this, hallie, over the next several years, because the infrastructure bill alocates $25 billion for airports. a lot of that goes towards safety, but $5 billion goes for new and upgraded terminals and another $5 billion for air traffic control, that last rendering you saw there, that's the vision of the future for o'hare airport. huge difference compared to what it is right now. >> it's so interesting, phil. i'm looking at the images. it's so interesting, because, like, people had to go through -- flying in and out of laguardia all the time, not awesome during the renovation, while it was happening,
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obviously you want to get to the other side of it. >> what about the before the renovation? >> right. >> right, remember before the renovation. if you went into that c-concourse in laguardia, i mean, you had buckets collecting water on a regular basis. it was an embarrassment. and hats off to the port authority of new york city, they took the measures and steps needed to have basically a new airport built. and that's what a number of airports are doing right now. o'hare is a good example. the second terminal at o'hare, i mean, it needs to be gutted and redone. and that will happen over the next ten years. >> yeah. phil, real quick, you know airports better than anyone what is your favorite? >> probably denver. i'm partial of denver. one of the newest airports out there and i think it does a very nice job, except for when you are going through security at the beginning, that's long been a problem they have to correct. >> i would say mine is honolulu, phil. >> oh, yeah. >> great to see you, phil.
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