report will demonstrate in great detail how trump said things about the election, but privately said other things where he indicated he knew that what he was telling the public was not true, and the committee is interested in pursuing a case about defrauding the american people and making that case very clear in this report. >> yeah. so key. mind-set and the idea of fraud put upon the american people. luke broadwater, great stuff. appreciate it. thanks to all of you also for getting up "way too early" on this wednesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. an attempt, and making a big run. snuck in behind -- score! he scores! >> it is the goal that gave team usa the win over iran in the world cup. the hero of the game was injured

in the process but says he will make it to the knockout round against the netherlands on friday, full highlight. plus, concern for the iranian players if they return home and also for their families. we're also following the latest from washington this morning where a jury convicted the founder of the oath keepers and a top deputy of seditious conspiracy for trying to overturn the 2020 election. both now facing up to 20 years in prison, and a lot happening on capitol hill today as well. another shutdown showdown. a vote set for today aimed at avoiding a devastating rail strike, and house democrats begin passing of the torch by honoring nancy pelosi with a new title ahead of today's leadership elections. good morning, and welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, november 30th. along with joe, willie and me, we have former aide to the

george w. bush white house and state department elise jordan host of "way too early" jonathan lemire. good to have you with us this morning. >> willie what a game. >> wow. >> i will tell you, end of it, just talk about a nail-biter. >> yeah. a nail-biter, 1-0, the united states. the thing where you don't really know when the game's about to end because of the injury time, added time, extra time, whatever they call it. it just adds to the level of scrap. but here is all team usa needed. the pride of hershey, pennsylvania, scoring the only goal of the game, and suffering a pelvic contusion and ended up in the hospital. he didn't come back for the second half are and does say, you mentioned, he'll be back, though, for the big game now, into the knockout round. 16 teams left and they will play the netherlands. it's in all the papers up here this morning, guys. joe, you look at the back of the "new york post" guts and glory. then referring to that injury

suffered on the game winner, "the agony of victory." literally laying in the goal after the score. >> a euphemism i don't really want to get into much deeper but a pelvic contusion. >> seems okay, though. >> seems okay, yeah. >> going to be okay. >> yeah. but that's a heck -- we've all had pelvic contusions in our football careers. >> ah. >> but nothing that sent us to the hospital and wires in us. so he paid for the victory, but, jonathan lemlemire, this is jus quite simply, a play, a setup, a goal. played simply past usa teams could not have pulled off. there just wasn't this skill level. >> spectacular goal, painful one. some gave all, in this case, this player. hope he's ready for saturday. game could have been 2-0.

right? end of first half. we texted about it. u.s. had another goal wiped away due to an offsides call that was very close. questions whether it was legit or not and then, man, we barely hung on. it's a win, but those last 20 minutes or so, simply agonizing. iran controlled play. u.s. got tight. they had chance after chance after chance, but the game held and a spectacular win for u.s. soccer. >> you want to know whether they were excited afterwards or not. take a look at this video from the team hotel. this was put out. >> nice! >> yes. post-op, post whatever. [ cheers ] there, of course, tyler adams, the team captain.

represented the team so well. you know, a great piece in the "new republic" entitled the messy glorious team" and some american soccer fans, football fans would agree with every line of this. i am, usmmt hater. the new york knicks, oakland a's, some about -- always sees somewhat hapless. something pathetic about this even when they succeeded. sometime game against wales i realized this was an american team i could love. players a password of old and new invincibly. team's play with determination and energy and at times

abjectness of the u.s. team that features several players about who one of soccer's great cliches applies. tyler adams, do it all mckinney and -- making of an extraordinary attacker is unlike any americans who played before. attacking top line is all zip and energy, and ericsson comes home, downright combustible. first time actually building something instead of standing still for years. the team alternated between success and flop sweat failure. never seeming to make much progress between major tournaments. there's always a sense that the u.s. was not deep down a real soccer country. troubled by that anxiety. it is untroubled by the

defensive and just plays, and it plays well. so far, so good. willie -- >> nice. >> -- they're going to have to play very well saturday when they play the netherlands. >> yeah. i'm going to read from one of my best buddies who knows much more about soccer than i do texting this. see if you agree. our team is young and dawningerous. picked the team to be great in 2026 when we host getting out of group stage met expectations of winning and the next round exceed expectations but young teams have nothing to lose and no pressure on them are very dangerous. this could be a very exciting tournament, even if it is the youngest team in the world cup, ours is. 24 years and change on average. with an eye towards the future, boy, yesterday kind of looked like the future is now, joe. >> it really, really did, and jonathan lemire, you know, we watch an awful lot of premier league football and i've got to say. you can tell early on in this

tournament that especially the first half, this was a good team. they were better than past u.s. teams. moved the ball well. find lanes, make space. they do the things they need to do to stay in the game. they come up short at times here and there. again, but they're very, very young. but, yeah. this team was put together to be ready for the world cup. playing in america 40 years from now, they're ahead of schedule. >> they really are, and this is a team that's largely dropping european. playing overseas. not quite the same level as european leagues, of course, and, look. they don't quite have the overwhelming skill some of the other candidaters do. a striker or two short, perha pulesk is a superstar.

fitting he got the goal yesterday. willie noted, everything from here on out is a bonus. the experience they're getting coming through the group stage, playing a netherlands team that is good but beatable, everything, every minute they play right now is building towards 2026. it's going to be fun to watch. >> wow. we're going to have roger bennett coming up in the next hour to talk about all of this. >> so excited. >> yeah. he will be pumped. we're also going to talk about the geopolitical implications of this. hard not to feel for the iranian players. >> boy, felt bad for them on the field. really did. what they're possibly going back to, having the courage to stand with the people, with the women of iran. >> that's right. >> yeah. >> and facing possible threats to themselves or their families. we'll talk about what it will mean for them and that part of the story follow-up as well. moving on, a federal jury reached a verdict yesterday in the high-profile oath keepers trial. oath keepers founder stewart

rhodes and leader of the florida chapter of the far-right group kelly meggs found guilty with the january 6, 2020 attack on the capitol. the seditious charge carries maximum of 20 years in prison. rhodes attorney said they plan to appeal the conviction. the notice serious case to grow out of the justice department's sprawling investigation into the u.s. capitol insurrection. the trial lasted eight weeks with the jury deliberating for three days. three other members of the group were found not guilty on seditious conspiracy. that charge, and they include jessica watkins, harrison and caldwell. all five found guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting for their actions on january 6th. a sentencing date has not been set yet. federal prosecutors allege the

five defendants conspired to oppose the peaceful transfer of power from former president donald trump to president joe biden. attorney general merrick garland released a statement praising the work of prosecutors and federal agents affirming that the justice department is "committed to holding accountable those criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy on january 6th, 2021." >> elise jordan, obviously not easy to get this charge. a big win. >> seditious conspiracy. >> seditious conspiracy. a big win for prosecutors, and a big win for americans shocked and outraged by what happened on january the 6th. let me just say, a huge loss for those right-wing trumpers. the trumpiest of the right-wing trumpers in the chattering classes that kept saying, oh. wait a second. it wasn't an insurrection.

if it were an insurrection these people would be charged and found guilty of seditious conspiracy. well, they were, and here we are, and it was an insurrection. according to juries, unless they want to nullify juries now. >> well, what you hear from a lot of trump supporters who defend what happened on january 6th is that so many of insurrectionists are being held now as political prisoners. well, this goes to the very top of the operation, seditious conspiracy, which is a pretty heavy charge when you think about the gravity of what happened that day and to overturn the government. so now going forward, what does this mean for all the other men and women who were there that day, and who breached police boundaries, who went into areas of the capitol that they weren't supposed to go into. what does this mean now?

>> let's turn to some of our reporters on this story. former assistant u.s. attorney for the district of columbia now at nbc news and msnbc legal analyst glen kirshner and justice reporter, msnbc news, ryan. start with you. covering the case closely. both of you in the courtroom, actually, for most of this trial. so ryan, how did the verdicts that you saw yesterday and heard line up with what you expected? >> reporter: you know, i definitely expected stewart rhodes to catch seditious conspiracy verdict. i think actually the split verdict here sort of goes to the credibility of the jury and of the verdict, because we've seen a lot of attacks on d.c. jurors in a lot of court filings from january 6th defendants saying they're too biased, too left leaning to handle these cases and decide them comparely but they didn't give doj everything they wanted. looked at the evidence, applied facts. evidence, and came up with this mixed verdict. finding two individuals guilty

of seditious conspiracy but three of them weren't. i just think it's a well-reasoned and logical verdict that really does show that jurors took their duty here seriously. looked at what the judge instructed them to do. looked at the evidence that was available to them and decided that there was enough evidence to find at least two of these individuals guilty of seditious conspiracy. a win for doj overall and something that hasn't been seen in d.c. for decades and more than a decade since the last time the justice department tried this, and in that case didn't succeed. took a big shot here, and i think that, you know, doj headquarters chalking this up to a win. not great news necessarily for individuals who are still facing seditious conspiracy charges including other members of the oath keepers whose trials are coming up as well as members of the proud boys facing that charge and going to trial here in the coming weeks.

>> glen, oath keepers compared themselves to the founding fathers fighting tyranny, their bastille movement. we know they had weapons, huge caches of weapons in a comfort inn in arlington, virginia. in case it came to that. boats in the ready to go in. role playing. thought they were revolutionaries. what message does this verdict send to them? >> you know, willie, criminal trials are not supposed to be political endeavors. the question for the jury exclusively, whether the evidence introduced at trial proved charges beyond a reasonable doubt. prosecutors did a pretty good job keeping politics out of the trial. rarely did you hear a prosecutor even utter the name donald trump, but then the head of the oath keepers and lead defendant elmer stewart rhodes took the stand and blew it all up. now, it's rare for defendants to take the stand and large federal prosecutions. i've had some of my defendants take the stand, which, you know,

was always a happy time for me because i got to cross-examine them, but when rhodes took the stand very early on in his lengthy testimony he said and i quote "the election was unconstitutional." you know, said disbarred lawyer, and also helpfully added that he is a constitutional expert. i don't think he won points with the jury. once he did that, willie, he really put the big lie on trial. so ultimately, i view the jury's verdict nome as an affirmation that the evidence proved the guilt of these five defendants beyond a reasonable doubt, but it was a pretty direct rejection of the big lie itself. you know, in short, i think the verdicts were a victory of law, the rule of law, over lawlessness, and a victory of facts over, i guess, alternative facts. >> and it's jonathan. a watershed movement in the january 6th investigations and a

rarity to have seditious conspiracy charging convictions. talk sentencing. what could stewart rhodes face here? >> so rhodes and his top lieutenant kelly meggs also convicted of the lead charge, seditious conspiracy, are look the between 20 and 30 years. that's the statutory maximum. guidelines may be lower, though in a case like this. you know, the judge may actually feel compelled to go to the top of the guideline range. now, the other defendants who were also convicted of serious federal felonies, including trying to obstruct certification of joe biden's win, are facing more like 10 to 15 years but i really think it's the fact of the conviction, jonathan, that matters more than how many years or in rhodes and meggs case how many decades they may end up spending in prison. >> ryan, elise jordan here. what big cases are you watching now with january 6th defendants?

>> you know, there's a lot of them that churn through every day. biggest one right now i think in addition to the seditional oath keepers trial is the proud boys. their case from what we've seen so far is even stronger in terms of pre-planning. you might have a case you have more proud boys potentially convicted of seditious conspiracy charge than you did oath keepers. doj did get, before oath keepers trial, three oath keepers defendants to plead guilty to the charge of seditious conspiracy. none actually testified during the trial. interesting. a couple other oath keepers pleaded guilty to less serious charges who did testify during the trial, but in the proud boys' case so much evidence of pre-planning and intent in terms of they were dressed up, sort of as antifa and wearing bands basically to try to identify themselves. they didn't want to be identified as proud boys on that day, and then you just have so much more physical violence from members of the proud boys than

you did members of the oath keepers. in the case of the oath keepers, you really oent had one of these individuals actually physically engage with officers. jessica watkins, tried in this first case and admitted that she was in that crowd inside the capitol pushing up against police officers and in fact took the stand said find me guilty of this count, and the jury did, in terms of civil disorder. but predication to the proud boys, there's a ton of evidence of pre-planning and physically smashing windows. famous video we see over and over again of someone taking a police shield and actually physically smashing out that window to the capitol. that's on display during that trial as well as additional violence against police, along with a lot more violent rhetoric than we even saw in the oath keepers case. >> nbc news justice reporter ryan riley and nbc news and msnbc legal analyst glen kirschner. thank you for being on this

morning. a lot more ahead on "morning joe." politics of soccer go well beyond the pitch. we'll look at the serious situation iranian players and their families face following a protest at the world cup. plus, herschel walker wants to represent georgia in the u.s. senate, but does he even live there? that's what some are asking this morning after new reporting on his financial records. and as we mentioned at top of the show, there is a lot happening on capitol hill today, from leadership elections to a controversial vote to block freight and rail workers from going on strike. we'll get into all of that coming up on "morning joe." research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!!!

what does it do, bud? it customizes our home insurance so we only pay for what we need! and what did you get, mike? i got a bike. ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪♪ over the last 100 years, lincoln's witnessed a good bit of history. even made some themselves. makes you wonder... what will they do for an encore? ♪♪ first psoriasis, then psoriatic arthritis. even walking was tough. i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. cosentyx can help you move, look, and feel better... by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting...get checked for tuberculosis.

an increased risk of infections some serious... and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms... or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms... develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur. watch me. ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx. in one second, sara yes! will get a job offer somewhere sunnier. relocating in weeks. weeks? yeah, weeks. gotta sell the house. don't worry, sell to opendoor, and move on your schedule. yes! request a cash offer at opendoor.com

age comes with wisdom. and wisdom comes with benefits. dryer's broken okay... you want a socket.... that's especially true when it comes to medicare. so make the wise call and learn more about cigna medicare plans in your area. their tools and resources make it simple and easy. bears can smell wifi. visit cignawisecall.com today. you want to flip it.

24 past the hour. protesters who took to china's streets to challenge harsh coronavirus measures are now reportedly being tracked down

using the country's extensive surveillance system in an effort to prevent future demonstrations. the "wall street journal" reports "chinese authorities appear to be preventing fresh protests from taking root by deploying large numbers of police at the sites of planned protess in major cities. on tuesday a planned protest in shenzhen after several showed up according to review by the "wall street journal." similarly protests canceled on monday in beijing and shanghai." besides hundreds of millions of cameras some equipped with facial recognition software that line city streets the police can also access detailed mobile phone and social media data that shows people's locations at a given time. the rare acts of defiance began over the weekend in major cities

across china as frustration over the country's zero-covid policy came to a head. we'll be watching that. willie? meanwhile, we mentioned, the iranian team from the world cup is bracing for what could be an unwelcome homecoming by the islamic republic after failing to advance in six world cup appearances now. they did say ahead of the national anthem the display followed reports the players were threatened with imprisonment and torture if they did not behave after failing to sing the national anthem last week in protest. a win against the u.s. could have helped eased transgressions but a covert operations officers tells the "new york post" iranian players stuck in an untenable position, retaliations for disloyalty and failure to beat the united states. joe, this was a concern immediately. that's why we said again and again, an incredible act of

courage for those iranian players in that first game not to sing the national anthem. speaking out for the women of iran. some of them being attacked in the streets as we speak. they may now face the consequences when they head home. >> it was -- it was, willie, it was terrible, as i was watching the gail. obviously cheering on team usa, at the same time you couldn't help but feel for these iranian players who took -- we go back to the '68 olympics, and the raised clinched fists in '68, and that was so courageous. you look at these players on the largest of the world stage. it's like the '68 olympics in mexico city, not singing the national anthem with the regime that they know could kill them, jail them, torture them, kill their families. imprison their families, and it showed extraordinary courage, but, yeah. it was -- it was difficult

watching the iranian players afterwards. just, because what they may face when they go home. >> i know. joining us, carnegie endowment for international peace, karim who focuses on iran and u.s. foreign policy towards the middle east, and very interested in your thoughts on, number one, what these iranian players are facing. what you're hearing about what could happen to them and to their families, and what the geopolitical implications are of all of this? >> thank you, mika. that's a great question. first, this game took place against the backdrop of the largest national uprisings in iran since the country's 1979 revolution. over the last three months nearly 19,000 iranians have been imprisoned more than 500 iranians killed and, remember, this is a regime whose identity is premised on anti-americans and official slogan is "death to america" and it desperately

wanted this propaganda victory against the united states. in many ways similar to how the soviet union desperately wanted propaganda victories against the united states, as you alluded to, threaten the players, if they were to exhibit any acts of protest against the regime, their families would be in trouble, their assets confiscated and in the end, it ended very badly for the regime, because people in iran actually cheered the united states victory and i think this is a reminder, mika, that despite the fact that this is the most anti-american regime in the world, it's arguably one of the most pro-american societies in the world. >> that's always been -- i talk to friends in the cia who always said the great irony was that this was, a decade ago, said in the countries that are our greatest geopolitical threats, people who consider the united states their enemy, they talk

about iran, and at the time syria, said that, you know, they were in damascus or tehran, actually the people there loved americans. couldn't ask enough questions about american society where some of our allies actually have people who have an open hostility towards the united states, or at least did in the past. but can you talk about that? just -- it's, again, i always find myself in this -- this -- this strange position when i'm watching iran play, and in past world cups, because it -- the government's at the epicenter of international terrorism, has been since 1979, and yet the people, everything i've heard, are wonderful. most are pro-american. the culture, the civilization, the history, the heritage, just not a more remarkable

civilization on earth, than the persian civilization. talk about, i've never been able to put those two realities together. how could it be that these thugs have captured such a vibrant, wonderful civilization for almost 50 years now? >> joe, you have two very powerful forces in iran. you have young, modern society, which is desperately seeking wholesale fundamental change, and they have at their back a civilization that as you talked about is 2,500 years old and they're very proud of that civilization and they want to be an upstanding member of the international community, and then you have the, a regime, which has been in power for 43 years, and it's ruthless, and that it believes that it's either rule or die. they have no friends in the world and in contrast to the

shahs government in 1978, when many elite of the shah's government were able to remake their lives in london or los angeles, when the revolution happened, these guys are friendless. their own friend is in syria. so these powerful forces are going to continue to play out in iran, and there's no guarantee that people will prevail in the near term, but i think it's certainly guaranteed that this is a regime which is not sustainable. >> so karim, what changes things in iran? thinking back to the green revolution in 2009 and 2010 previously the largest demonstration seen inside the country since the revolution in '79. if everything you said is true and the joe is right that the country by and large is a young country and a modern country, wants to be a modern country, i should say. what breaks the small group the authoritarian leaders have on the rest of the population?

>> we know from history, willie, for popular uprisings to see you not only need pressure from below but a lead division at the top. we've seen iran, enormous desire for change. we haven't seen the elite divisions at the top. a professor in tehran told me about this regime. this regime are 20% idiots and 80% charlatans meaning only 20% of true believes. truly believe in the ideology. after four decades, 80% of charlatans don't believe in the ideology. they're in it for political and financial expediency. if these protests persist, i think you will start to see fissures especially within that 80%. >> senior fellow at the carnegie international site for peace.

thank you for your incite. coming up in a landmark vote the senate passes a bill to protect same-sex marriage. we're talk about what's next for that piece of legislation. and a look at what else is happening on capitol hill today. a lot. plus, the house select committee investigating january 6th gives an update on the timeline for a final report, but the panel isn't done with interviews just yet. "morning joe" is coming right back. the eat fresh® refresh just won't stop! now, subway® is refreshing their catering with easy-order platters and lunchboxes perfect for any party. pool parties... tailgates... holiday parties... even retirement parties. man, i love parties. subway keeps refreshing and refreshing

in two seconds, eric will realize they're gonna need more space... gotta sell the house. oh...open houses. or, skip the hassles and sell with confidence to opendoor. wow. request a cash offer at opendoor.com what if we wanted to electrify all of this... 100% carbon free... is it possible? ♪♪ aes has been leading energy transitions for decades... and is partnering with the worlds leading companies to decarbonize industries... cities, and nations. even the internet. is it possible? can we reliably power the things we love and green the planet at the same time?

yes... aes.

these days, our households depend on the internet more and more. families grow, houses get smarter, and our demands on the internet increase. that's why we just boosted speeds for over 20 million xfinity customers, on us. so you get more of the speed you need for day and night streaming. more speed you need when you're work from homeing. and more speed you need as your family keeps growing. check in on your current speed through the xfinity app today.

live pictures of capitol hill this morning at 38 past the hour. a lot going on in that building. the senate has passed landmark legislation to codify federal protections for same-sex and interracial marriages. the respect for marriage act was

approved by a vote of 61-36 with support from all democrats and 12 republicans. the measure now heads back to the house for a final vote, which could happen as early as next tuesday. it would then go to president biden, who said he looks forward to signing it. the president issued a statement yesterday writing in part -- "with today's bipartisan senate passage of the respect for marriage act, the united states is on the brink of reaffirming a fundamental truth. love is love. and americans should have the right to marry the person they love." >> elise jordan, it is -- i've got to say, when i saw the vote i was stunned. 61-36. i mean, i knew it was coming. i still couldn't believe it, because our recent past, politically, would never suggest this would have happened in

2022. 2004 republicans put, you know, a gay marriage ban, same-sex marriage bans on initiatives in every swing state they could, because they knew it was drive up votes and help them win the election. 40 years later barack obama as progressive as a president we've had when he was running. barack obama said he was against same-sex marriage, because he was a christian, and he believes marriage is between a man and a woman. 40 years later, in the 2012 campaign, just a decade ago, joe biden got absolutely crushed by the obama white house. was -- was -- i remember in realtime, getting reports inside of the white house that nobody would talk to him. he would go into meetings, he was dead man walking inside that white house, because he dared to

go on "meet the press" and say he supported same-sex marriage. now, think about that. that's just 10 years ago. right? and here we are 61-36. when that vice president who was attacked inside an administration for saying he supported same-sex marriage and artie duncan the next day i think came on "morning joe" saying he supported it, too, and then he faced a firestorm, went back to the white house. i say all that just to say, my god. ten years later -- it passes, bipartisan legislation. that's a pretty extraordinary decade. >> joe, what an example this issue is of how the american people are often farther ahead than politicians on human rights issues, and you look at where

vice president joe biden -- then vice president -- where he was, and how he was ahead of the politics within the democratic establishment, but he could tell what the pulse of the voters was. you look at today, and, you know, most republicans are behind this, and it's just such a human rights triumph in america that this isn't even a point of debate, a point of contention anymore, really. but it's just -- you look at the other issues that there still are outstanding, and we still have places to come. i wonder if women's health, though, is just another example of where politicians are out of step with where the voters are. >> got 12 republicans to vote for this, to get over 60 votes, still a bunch did not vote for federal protection of gay marriage. look again just over the last decade where barack obama was. guests on our show ten years ago, joe mentioned this yesterday. artie duncan, education secretary. asked him on the air, it was

seen as a big deal. yeah, i support gay marriage. i think people of the same sex want to marry we should honor that. big breaking news. if you look at the movement and the polls in the country, even among republicans, it's now a vast majority position to respect and honor gay marriage in this country. quite a movement in a decade. >> argue, nothing has moved so quickly in public acceptance as the idea of gay marriage. it's fine and the government should stay out of it. 12 republicans more than they anticipated would get. it was sort of a triumphant mood in the senate yesterday after this happened. goes to the house next week where it's expected, of course, to pass and president biden said he will happily sign it soon as he possibly can. biden, joe mentioned, ahead of many democrats ahead on this issue back when he was vice president and comes at a time taken up because of the dobbs decision and abortion rights overturned and a quick move to codify this, protect this. it happened, it happened

quickly. opponents are really pleased and see it signed in the next week or so. >> one of. agenda items on capitol hill this morning including houd leadership elections, a rail strike on paid leave and a government shutdown. ryan nobles, a busy day. looking forward to a busy week here. >> reporter: may be a busy month, willie. a lot congress has to get done over the next couple days. you're right. headline today, the historic election of a new crop of democratic leaders led by new york city's hakeem jeffries. the first african american to become leader on any capitol hill position, house or senate. elected by peers in a closed-door meeting this afternoon. pete aguilar of california will become the conference chair. still hanging around, though,

jim clyburn, serving in a role in leadership. what you see here, willie, is truly a change, a generational change in leadership. this new crop. three new leaders, are 30 years younger than the group they're going to replace in house speaker nancy pelosi, steny hoyer and james clyburn, top three spots. this shows the democratic party evolving getting to this next step and, of course, a big job of hakeem jeffries to keep all democrats in line given the fact such tight margins in the house of repetitives in the coming year even though democrats are in the minority. a lot to tackle right out of the gate. you mentioned a looming government shutdown. decide whether or not they're going to pass a continuing resolution that essentially kicks the can down the road or do fulsome omnibus spending plaen to get both democrats and republicans to buy into, and then, of course, there is the rail strike, which is a big problem right now for the biden administration. what they're going to deal with

today is a bill that will essentially, you know, approve the deal that they thought they already it with the unions and with the biden administration and the rail companies, but they are also going to do a separate vote on offering paid sick leave to many of these rail workers. that's a key sticking point and something that progressives are strongly in support of, but doing two separate votes in the house today so they can get it over the finish line and see if it has the votes to get it done here in the senate. a very, very busy day here just an example of what we expect is going to take place over the next couple of weeks. >> ryan, also, the january 6th committee final report. any word on when that'ses going to come out and who else they still need to talk to in the short amount of time that they have? >> reporter: yeah. it's crazy how busy they still are, mika. in fact, we reported for, among the first to report that robin vos, the assembly speaker in wisconsin is scheduled to meet with the committee today.

he, of course, was the leader in wisconsin, got a phone call from donald trump 20 months after the election was certified, where trump was demanding he retroactively attempt to overturn election results and vos turned him down. told him he con do that. while vos had that profile encouraged spent $700,000 in taxpayer money to investigate the election in wisconsin and turned up no fraud. where wrap this up, to your question. statute, have to be done by december 21st. bennie thompson said they're almost ready to put pens down, eight chapters in length. a ton of information. keep in mind, mika and joe, told us from the very beginning, yes, issue a report that outlines everything, points to all the key things they discovered but also going to release all the information that they've compiled. every deposition.

every piece of information that they've collected. >> wow. >> reporter: this is going to be a trove of information. much of which we still don't know about that this committee will ultimately release. >> all right. >> nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, thank you very much. >> thank you, ryan. really appreciate it. i want to go back quickly about joe biden. something you've always said about how he get politics. this guy from delaware that's been underestimated his entire life. gets politics. he was mocked, ridiculed, and just bluntly loathed by a progressive white house. >> uh-huh. >> when he was too progressive for their tastes on marriage quality. you look back 2020, that presidential feel for the democratic nomination. he was mocked and ridiculed, he was too old. he was too ssenile. all of these progressives, they

just looked down on him. they flat-out looked down on this guy. he won. he beat them all. >> yeah. >> history has proven him to be right. it was the obama white house that was wrong. i'm sure they're all embarrassed about how badly they treated joe biden ten years ago, for him being right on a civil rights issue. and all of the things that were written about joe biden in the 2020 campaign, that he couldn't win. he wasn't up to it. he's too old. he beat everybody, and then he beat donald trump, and then you look what happened in 2022. everybody's turning that red wave, red wave, red wave, except we weren't talking about a red wave, and he -- he out-plays everybody's expectations for him. it seems just about every time. >> he knows his politics. he knows the long game and knows how to walk through the naysayers and underestimating and sort of put the blinders on

to that and move forward, and whether, you know, if you look how he's handling ukraine, which is just unbelievably huge. >> massive. >> a huge issue. americans tuned in that that, they're less so because of the division and issues they face here at home and the economy, but at the midterms again focused on abortion. he focused on democracy. he focused on abortion. he held a speech on the state of our democracy and the future of our democracy and restoring our democracy. he knew exactly what the touchpoints were, no matter what everybody else was saying. >> and he was, willie, mocked and ridiculed, mocked and ridiculed for talking about democracy, talking about abortion. i won't mention the podcast, but i listen to a podcast, the week, weekend before the election. the entire -- people that everybody here knows. the entire podcast was mocking and ridiculing joe biden for

focusing on abortion and on democracy. he ended up being right. they all ended up being wrong. >> check the exit polls in pennsylvania. check the exit polls in michigan, any, know -- he wasn't alone in believing that abortion was going to be a persistent issue but a narrative formed red hot in the summer and kind of died down. most people who thought it was an important issue knew that wasn't the case and turned out to be decisive in a couple of those states where governors were elected and secretary of states elected, especially in michigan because of opponents on the issue of abortion. still ahead we're going to talk to a former employee of the oath keepers about the convictions of the far-right group's founder. plus, a potentially game-changing drug for alzheimer's patients. we'll discuss the latest results with an expert straight ahead on "morning joe."

this is a door. mom's holiday classic, tempting you to move closer to home, door. when life's doors open, we'll handle the house. who's on it with jardiance? ♪ ♪ we're the ones getting it done. we're managing type 2 diabetes and heart risk. we're on it with jardiance. join the growing number of people who are on it with the once-daily pill, jardiance. jardiance not only lowers a1c,

it goes beyond to reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease. and jardiance may help you lose some weight. jardiance may cause serious side effects including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, (that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function), and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, ketoacidosis or an allergic reaction, and don't take it if you're on dialysis. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. a once-daily pill that goes beyond lowering a1c? we're on it. we're on it. we're on it with jardiance. ask your doctor about jardiance. it's the subway series menu. 12 irresistible subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! you've put your dreams on hold.

remember this? but i spoke to our advisor, and our vanguard investments are on track. “we got this, babe.” so go do what you love. thanks for being our superhero. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor—you're an owner. giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. that's the value of ownership. i d d so my y quesonons eouout hicacase.y y son, giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. cacalledhehe bars s fi i d d soit was the best call eouout hii could've made. giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. call the barnes firm and find out what your case all could be worth.uld've made. giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪

and find out what your case all when a truck hit my car,ade. giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. ♪the insurance companyed, wasn't fair. eight million ♪ i didid't t kn whahatmy c caswa, so i called the barnes firm. i'm rich barnes. it's hard for people to k how much their accident case is worth.h barnes. t ouour juryry aorneneys hehelpou

55 past the hour. a quick look at the morning papers. lieding with the latest on the ongoing water crisis in jackson, mississippi. the u.s. department of justice has filed a proposal in federal court that would appoint a third party to stabilize the city's water. the third party manager has not yet been identified. the wichita eagle reports women in kansas could soon seek abortion pills through telemedicine appointments after a judge blocked a state law banning the practice. abortion providers say it will expand access to the procedure across the state. especially in more rural areas. in maryland, the "capital" reports republican governor larry hogan will host a pair of major fund-raisers tonight as he considering a 2024 presidential bid. while hogan repeatedly said he

will not make a decision until after leaving office next month he's committee raised over $1 million. and historic artemis i mission. the orion spacecraft yesterday shattered records after traveling 270,000 miles away from earth. the furthest distance any spacecraft designed to carry humans has ever traveled. now, this flight has no crew. it's a test in anticipation of returning humans to the moon. and coming up, top republicans in congress take different approaches to the latest controversy surrounding donald trump. plus, roger bennett will be here to break down team usa's big win at the world cup. "morning joe" will be right back.

nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. ♪limu emu & doug♪ it's nice to unwind after a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance

so you only pay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ find your beat only pay for what you need. your moment of calm find your potential then own it support your immune system with a potent blend of nutrients and emerge your best every day with emergen-c

republicans are pulling out all the stops. senators ted cruz and lindsey graham spent more time with him than he spent with all of his children. >> teamherschel coin pom.

>> teamherschel.com. >> team herschel.com, 21 -- 33, 34, 35. [ laughter ] >> i really think lindsey graham might be in love with herschel walker. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it is wednesday, november 30th. elise jordan, jonathan lemire still with us and joinings conversation we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and eddie glaude jr. those two guys sitting next to herschel walker all the time. >> elise -- elise -- elise, our former party. i can't even believe it. there's such jokes! >> it is so embarrassing. >> what i don't understand is, again, again it doesn't work. right? you know, if i were a car mechanic and i had a guy for six

years, like putting sugar in the gas tank saying, makes it run sweet. well, okay. you know. the first year i'd be like, well -- >> it runs sweet. >> got to try everything. you want to try sugar in your gas tank i'm not going to get in the way. you try it. >> car breaks down. >> 2018, 2019. >> car breaks down. >> car keeps breaking down every year. it never works! right? 2022. i go, you know what? we're going to -- you get to do -- we're going to get a -- a -- ten pounds of sugar. pack it into a five-pound bag and jam it all in the carburetor, gas, goal all-in on this because we think the problems, we haven't put enough sugar in the gas enough. >> get molasses. >> and then they go all-in. republicans with election denial. all-in with crazy conspiracy

theories, qanon garbage. the worst, least qualified candidates. the celebrity -- go all-in and keep losing. at what point do they get tired of losing? why do republicans not grow wary of losing? why will they not do what it takes to win elections? >> so next georgia senate, will there be another runoff and yet again trump will be some horrible candidate that trump's going to attempt to prop up or let history repeat itself this year? amazing to listen to ted cruz and lindsey graham debase themselves, except they do it all the time so it's not really anything that different here. they're just going to keep going out and keep embarrassing themselves over and over, and it's just patronizing the way that they act next to herschel walker. he didn't even speak for himself and he is the senate candidate.

let him speak. if you're willing to stump for him, let him talk, but this is where we are today. >> it's really -- it's embarrassing and condescending and almost -- well, in a subtle way, racist, what they're doing. propping up this guy who's totally unqualified. probably mentally not up to par, struggling, and intellectually struggling. not fit for the job, and we've said this from the very beginning, that, you know -- he's challenged emotionally, obviously. he's had mental, serious mental health challenges. he's talked about them. doesn't look like he's -- you know, we don't know where he is with it. you talk to his family. they say he's just not equipped in anyway. >> goes onstage and act ill-equipped. >> and goes and says the craziest, rambling on and on and on and the thing is, donald trump knew this. republicans that -- that pushed

herschel walker knew this, but they put themselves in this position yet again, and afterwards, if he loses what are they going to do? oh, my gosh. you know, they can't curse the stars. they have met the enemy, and the enemy is them! >> absolutely. i think it's a cynical play on a number of different levels. you know, you saw a black candidate, put them forward thinking siphon off, 10%, 12% are going to vote for herschel walker, the name, and bank on the fact that white republicans, in georgia would never vote for a democrat. images we see ted cruz one side, lindsey graham the other. that's probably the point, joe. he is a prop. he is a problem. we need to understand that for what it is and understand the republican party nationally and in the state of georgia as in some ways engaging a cynical play with regards to race in this regard and putting forward someone who's not only

incompetent, you put something like that forward, that imp competence poses i think a serious danger to the country. at least to the citizens of georgia. he won't represent them in any substantive way. >> new questions this morning whether herschel walker actually lives in the state. trying to represent in the united states senate. walker own as home in northwest atlanta but new reporting from the "daily beast" showing walker's wife collected tens of thousands of dollars in rental income for that residence between 2020 and 2021. that's according to his financial disclosure forms. the "daily beast" reports the rentedal income suggests the walkers not only not living in georgia before his campaign but had not used the home in georgia for anything but a passive cash stream. walker also has a home in the dallas area. lived there for many, many years. according to cnn tax records so walker is set to receive a homestead tax exemption worth

$15 million for a home in texas. home must be the primary residence, meaning living there most of the time. in texas. records show walker bought that property in 2011 and claimed exemption there in texas since 2012. technically, walker does not actually need to live in georgia while running, but running in u.s. senates seats only requires senators to reside in the state they represent after they are elected. joe, also reporting from cnn this morning that herschel walker has conducted some of his interviews and even campaign events over zoom from his home in texas. >> we've heard this before. mike barnicle, a guy from jersey runs in pennsylvania. how does that play in williamsport? scranton? not well. not well at all. a guy from dallas, texas, running to the senator in the state of georgia. how's that going to play? i mean, again, this is -- this

is all donald trump. i mean, donald trump destroyed the -- >> the party should have known this. couldn't the party have figured this out? >> yes, figured it out. could have. >> about this candidate? >> they could have, but, you know, again, you have to look at the voters. trump said, vote for herschel walker, they voted for herschel walker. trump said vote for dr. oz, they voted for dr. oz. trump said vote for blake masters they voted for blake masters. loss -- loss -- loss, mike and here you have again. you got herschel walker in georgia from texas. you know, replaying the dr. oz game plan. >> you know, if you take one step backward from the story, one step backward from the heat of the campaign and the rapid approach and climax of the special election next tuesday, this is a very sad story.

one person, herschel walker was selected by very few numbers of people for a seat in the united states senate. once a glorious and favored institution, now tarnished by really terrible politics over the last decade and a half, but herschel walker specifically. he has many challenges. he has verbal challenges. he has mental challenges. he has challenges that are visible to anyone who sees him or watching him perform on a stage. and yet this man has been both used and abused by a political process that doesn't give one whit about him as a human being. not one. >> uh-huh. >> yep. >> and that's really a tragic story that we're watching here. >> think about all the family baggage now unearthed for walker now on public display. he'll always be heisman winner herschel walker but so much of his reputation, joe and mika, has been tarnished by this and i

think a lot of republicans were willing, saw his challenges but willing to hold their nose for him if it meant the senate majority. now gone, certainly to republicans i speak to say that enthusiasm issues in georgia ahead of the runoff six days out, particularly seeing record early voting turnout there. >> watching georgia and now one week after donald trump dined with a white nationalist at his florida home, republican leaders in congress addressed the situation yesterday. speaking to reporters after a meeting at the white house, minority leader kevin mccarthy denounced the dinner but refused to denounce the former president directly. >> i don't think anybody should be spending any time with nick fuentes. he has no place in this republican party. i think president trump came out four times and he didn't know who he was. >> just said he didn't know who he was didn't condemn the

ideology? >> i condemn the ideology. it has no place in society at all. the president will do what he likes, and the -- you know what, knew kanye west and didn't know who fuentes was. i don't think anybody should have a meeting with nick fuentes. >> a tweet yesterday, the best way to avoid having dinner with an anti-semite that you don't know is to not have dinner an with anti-semite that you do know. >> yeah. come on. >> and now that we're all focused on this nazi, this knee ow nazi, this white supremacist, but even taking a dinner with kanye west, openly anti-semitic. bragged he could be as anti-semitic and he wanted to be

and adidas couldn't do anything about it. even taking that dinner is offensive enough. >> and mccarthy just couldn't say it. he couldn't say it. could not bring himself. >> also, four times, willie, he said that donald trump condemned this nazi four times, this fascist four times, never condemned him once. >> no. nothing of the sort. didn't know. supposed to be kanye, i didn't know who this other guy was. donald trump totally hustled by this guy. showed up at the dinner with kanye west, wants attention having his name out there. got there, and now condemning donald trump saying he's abandoned the base. donald trump got totally hustled by a 24-year-old white supremacist and holocaust denier. boy, must be awful to go through life the way kevin mccarthy has to stop and think.

is the thing i'm about to say going to make donald trump mad? no core in having to say something as easy as this guy's terrible. donald trump shouldn't have done it, he has to say this guy's terrible, but donald trump said he didn't know him. just say he shouldn't have had the dinner. he can't do it and never has, and see it in his face, body language. >> how do i, how do i, how do i say this without getting trumpy mad. >> and republicans said, came out, said ridiculous. can was crazy. should have never done it, and the thing is for republicans to say, all right. i want to talk about donald -- look what was said. forceful as could be, on the record. said, that's all i'm going to say about it. ivanka trump. that's all i'm going to say about it. >> won't be asked about it anymore. look what i said before. all kevin mccarthy had to do. lip the words. can do it himself lift the words from johnny ertz and from mitt

romney, lip the words from other republican senators that have come out and just said it directly. kevin mccarthy can't do it. >> left the door open it's okay in his mind for his friend donald trump to have dinner with an anti-semite and a white nashist. just can't do it. >> wouldn't condemn donald trump. >> on the senate side a little dist. mitch mcconnell gave a more forceful review although did not mention trump by name. >> there is no room in the republican party for semitism or white supremacy, and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be eselected president of the united states. >> so trump responded later to

comments in an interview calling mcconnell a loser for our nation and doubled down on his claim he did not know who nick fuentes was before they had dinner together and fawning all over him. listen, not mentioning trump by name, i would never have to say that name again. so i don't blame any republican who will say, yeah. i denounce that. nobody should do that. that's the same thing. that's fine. >> and majority leader, knowing what he's talking about. picking it apart. no. you know, just said he can't do it. disqualifying. i do thinks fascinating, though, that the term "loser," think about this. willie, let's throw this word around the table. donald trump calls mitch mcconnell, a guy who has been elected consecutively in offices, different offices since

1975, a guy who's been, who's been running the republican party in the united states senate for a very long time. donald trump calls him a loser, when it's donald trump who -- basically lost for the republican party 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022, first president since herbert hoover to lose the senate and white house in his first term keeps losing races for republicans? i mean, that's really, really rich. >> and he lost the popular vote twice, impeached twice. fating a number of prosecutions perhaps here in the coming months. the list goes on and on. at the table, joe, mississippi delegation is to my right and another delegation to my left. start with mississippi. eddie, shaking your head living to this. mitch mcconnell and others, what

do you say here? >> i find it rich the leader would say there's no room for bigotry and anti-semitism in the gop how many years dealing with trump? he was a race it and anti-semite when he came down those damn escalators and announced his candidacy. it's just, i find it morally bankrupt that people are saying that this dinner with nick fuentes is the straw that broke the camel's back. if that's the straw that broke the camel's back then you don't care about all the people he's been diminishing and degrading. i just find it especially rich and consistently hypocritical that today that matter broke the camel's back. >> shocking. who would have ever had any indication that donald trump had some racist tendencies? and the whole original birther dude back in the obama presidency. it's not like this is anything new, but -- >> mississippi --

>> mississippi -- >> there it is. the commonwealth of massachusetts. >> all of this, really, everything you just said, the both of you, it's all so, it's also historic. disappearance and disillusion of a single political party in business for this country for a couple hundred years. the republican party. it's gone. it's gone, because what they've done especially the last six years and a few years prior to that, but especially over the last six or seven years, they have opened the door to people like fuentes. opened the door wide to white supremacists and white nationalists. almost as if saying to themselves internally, we've lost a lot of moderate suburban republican women. we freed a new constituency. let's get these race-baiting -- i almost swore, and invite them in. >> yeah. the republican party enabled these people. they're a part of those politics. trump does a bit takes credit

more mitch mcconnell's win. mcconnell wins by 30 points. that's not the issue here and one could argue it was trump's lack of effort in 2020 and his poorly chosen candidates in 2022 that kept mcconnell as minority leader rather than majority leader, joe and mika. we shoe know as much as mitch mcconnell condemns donald trump by name days put to the question several times. if trump's the nominee for president in 2020, will you vote for him? the answer's always "yes". >> think about mcconnell, too. calling trump a loser. mitch mcconnell spent how much money trying to get republicans elected? and donald trump held on to his money. >> oh, he kept it for himself. >> he got working-class and middle-class americans -- >> he's such -- >> to send him money, justice like my grandma, sent jim bakker

social security checks. they believe donald trump. believe him. western civilization is under assault and we have to stop these race-baiting woke progressives. he took their money, and sat on $100 million. >> that makes sense. >> didn't spend the money. kept it all for himself. >> yeah. that's donald trump. >> and that's donald trump. >> how he does business, too. >> again, who's the loser here? just look in the mirror, donald. so let's turn from our delegations, our -- >> political delegations. >> our political delegations. our mississippi delegation, and our massachusetts delegation, and let's go to the mercy side delegation right here. we turn now to the big win for team usa. the world cup yesterday. for that. >> oh, boy. >> time to bring in nbc sports soccer analyst. >> this is going to be crazy.

>> the mercy site's own roger bennett. author of the flu book that many people say is actually changed the course of western civilization and is once again revived the faith of men and women, dogs and cats alike. roger, thank you so much. >> soccer. >> you know, we've watched u.s. men's teams before, and it's, at times, been ugly. ugh. couldn't they have made that pass? cleared the lane? one of those things i found early in 2006 when i started watching premier league football, you could always see things on the field that you may not even be able to verbalize, but it's just this -- this unit, moving together beautifully, and i'm serious. i noticed early on by the time

teams get to midfield, i'd soak, -- go, uh-oh. people go, what, what? a few seconds later, a goal would be scored. this team usa is different than past years. maybe the dutch beat us 20-0. i don't no on saturday. but talk about it. they're gutsy. they clear the lanes. they know how to make space. it's all very exciting. >> u.s. men's team, this team, half as good as the u.s. women's team and that means a pretty bloody, they're good, and yesterday, ran for the third game of the opening day of the world cup needed to win to qualify for the knockout round. first time since 2014, and run-up to the game against iran, full of geopolitics and also a remake of opening scenes of our game, young baby eagles. brave, constipated, however they

score 38 minutes, great american movement up there for a moon landing. pulisic's goal to finish and gives iranian strike right into the down belows. a pelvic contusion. best since someone called it and one moment for this young kid from hershey, pennsylvania. giving it everything for our nation in this moment. he will, please, god, be fine to go again on saturday. second half, going to watch it again. really, it's -- i don't like to be hyperbolic, but george washington, betsy ross, abraham lincoln, god, we needed that. second half, u.s. were gases. iranians played it in. backdrop of domestic chaos charging on this. a prayer like bon jovi, but go, go usa. and look at them. exhausted. proud.

joyous. play the netherlands in a round on saturday. our gents face a number in the world. anything can happen. to quote austin powers. only two things i hate in this world. people who are intolerant of other people's challenges and the dutch. back to you, joe. [ laughter ] >> wow! >> roger, i hesitate even interrupt you you're on such a roll from betsy ross to bon jovi, but for those of us casual soccer fans who really enjoyed the tension of yesterday and that great win, look ahead now to, to the dutch, that you just slandered. do we have a, a reasonable shot in the round of 16? how far can the u.s. men's national team take this? >> well, the netherlands team is considered a true contender ahead of this tournament. they've got a lethal front line. they've got an experienced battle line but can be got out

in transition where our u.s. young gents are so bloody good. they were really gassed yesterday, but honestly playing with house money. proved ourselves to ourselves. we've proved ourselves to the nation, and a wise man once said, pass the duchy on to the left-hand side. now the property -- i don't like to boast, but the u.s. men's national team, has never lost a world cup game in the world cup -- i think it's coming. >> it's jonathan, a few days to drum up a healthy dislike between the netherlands on that game saturday. and beyond the u.s., hosting it in 2026, talk about the rest of the world cup. what else have you seen? what other teams impressed you? what story lines grabbed you? would do you peg as favorite to win the whole thing? >> surreal world cups.

in qatar. talked a lot how brazen, almost ridiculous to host this incredible crown jewel of a sporting event in a state that's morbidly connected, and the geopolitics swooped the tournament. almost open season for every single global political issue to express itself and global football, when two teams meet they take the nation's the history alongside them. a big opening week. big teams delivered transcendent moments. brazil, the world cup thus far lionel messi, tiny little impotent argentinean. 35 going for the world cup first time in his life too win it fifth time, last time doing it, his team crumbling. lost beginning to saudi arabia. had a must-win against mexico. playing terribly and then in the 63rd minute, put the game on

back of his shoulders. weighted the mexicans and what you feel in those moments, despite the politics, despite the darkness, despite just horrific decisions hosting in qatar, a sense of ultimate connection that you are cheering where you are and you know in mumbai, in melbourne, in manhattan, every single human being is seeing a demigod performing and transcending wonder and to me the true joy of the world cup. >> roger, first time in my life i watched the entire game. from start to finish. >> wow. mike barnicle. >> you know, i'm not a soccer guy but surprised at myself. tension of the game got to me. intrigue of the game got to me, but watching it. i watch it, and like watching a hockey game. i noticed immediately to my eye the american players seemed to be quicker. they seemed to be younger, more spread out. seemed to be passing the ball around like great hockey players

pass the puck around. one small complaint. as the game wound down and the tension thickened, each passing moment, the announcer would occasionally say, there's probably about nine minutes left. well, maybe four or five minutes left. what can we do to, like, sort of specify exactly how much to stop the clock? >> it wouldn't be you, barnicle, that didn't have a complaint. you've got to know ultimately, football is a global game. electricity practically has only just been invented in england. so the technology of the game, cast you out with the wonders of america. football i don't think has a suggestion box but if they do send your advice. please, god, offer american glory this saturday. >> well, by the way, this just in. very excited. i remember in 2010, roger, after mika knocked over a table with

team usa's win and we got through down in tribeca. land the next morning. tyler adams on in five minutes, captain of team usa. very excited about that. go ahead. >> incredible kid. by the way, incredible kid. the iranian media under state guidance had a run-up to this game asked this kid, who 23, asked him making a statement about race in america. how can he play for the u.s. when there separational issues and divisiveness. gave an interview, hope you show on the show when he comes up. i swear to you, i have not seen a politician. i defy you to make him a politician who can handle with such grace, humility, intelligence. slightly biased, do one every month. a great american. made me proud and the joy of his country. i say this.

the joy of this country in a time of chaos to see this diverse, remarkable, young team that really reflects every part of this nation in such a joyous way. sew see them succeed, to see them prove themselves to themselves, when is important to themselves and the rest of the world, to me joyous and what football needs before it comes here in 2026. godspeed tyler adams. >> godspeed, tyler adadams. proud as i was watching the u.s. men's team yesterday, i got to say i felt as much or more pride in watching tyler's answer. just a great moment of american pride to see, again, his response. how diplomatic he was. how graceful he was. even was an aggressive questioner who obviously the iraqi-iran state apologized for

pronouncing iran. i might have said, apologize for my annunciation if you apologize for your regime shooting young girls in the street, but he didn't do that. far more diplomatic than i would have been. finally, roger, before we let you go, and thank you so much for doing this. it means the world to us, but before we let you go, let's talk about england. thought it was fascinating that the u.s. actually squared up very well against england. i'm curious, though. they won the group. still have to be a favorite to get pretty far, but what are their prospects? >> you know, english fans only have two gears, which are, we're going to win the world cup! and he's a witch! they kind of ricochet between both of those. it's always either glory or dom. just had the best opening through the girls of their world cup history. the nation still finds a lot to moan about the u.s. young u.s.

face them through the series and felt like a win. reality, i want to be clear to your viewers, despite my accent, i cheer for america, like, kenny powers cheers for america, because when piers morgan is on one side or the other, enjoy them. a great american. >> he's your podcast partner. stay on with us and bring you now the captain of the u.s. men's national team, tyler adams. tyler, thank you so much for being here. >> yea! >> congratulations! you know, when i was a younger man i would have wanted to talk about the game first. which i'm sure you want to talk about the game first, but let me say in the beginning, roger and i talking about it. you made us so proud as americans in that press conference. for not only talking about the greatness of america and how we are moving forward as a country. even with our past, and even

with our mistakes. but also the grace that you showed and even apologizing to this guy who obviously was trying to set you off. so i know it's not as exciting talking about press conference as a world cup game, but we just wanted to start by thanking you for that, and tell us, tell us how it felt yesterday. just how magical it was on the field, on the pitch? >> yeah. thank you so much for having me. it's great to see you both. yeah. listen, you know, first, on the press conference. obviously, it's part of the job and you have to deal with that. but it's just important that everyone knows there's so much room for growth in our country, of course, but just in general, as long as you're educating yourself and trying to make progress, that's the most important thing. yeah, that being said, an amazing feeling last night to get the win and get the three points and obviously qualify. not an easy group but ow our

young team navigated through that was unbelievable. >> tell us about christians? how's he doing? a lot of euphemisms used for the injury he sustained, is he going to be okay? roger talking how much he hates the dutch. i don't know if it's diplomatic, but will he be back in time to go up against roger's arch nemesis? >> he will be ready 100%. christian's a warrior. he wouldn't miss that game for anything. playing on one leg if that's what it took. he'll be ready. we're going to need him for sure. >> so -- so tell me about the match yesterday. what made the difference? through -- again, not just the first half and you guys were desperately trying to find that goal, but also the gutsiness? holding it together for about 15, 20 minutes that seemed to

last forever? >> yeah. listen, going into a game like that, it's great to know what you need to do, and the only result we could get in order to advance was a win. so we had to show a little bit of that american grit and had to be ready to compete, because that iranian team, they were unbelievable. you know, they competed throughout that 90 minutes and 9 minutes of added time felt like eternity. so, yeah. felt like it was never going to end. had to suffer a lot from it. had to be -- and the young group, held the pressure really well. >> tyler, great to see you. this is willie giest. thanks for taking a minute for us today. echo what joe said and said on the show yesterday. performance in the press conference was a model for a lot of people and we'll show that to our kids how to be smart, thoughtful, gracious, and show american pride all in one moment. thank you for that example you set. as far as the team goes, saying

this morning, the narrative about your guys youngest team in the world cup, kind of more built for 2026 when the world cup comes to the united states but looking like you were built for 2022. looking forward to this game saturday for usus. what do you expect out of the dutch? >> we know the dutch team has so much quality and knew coming into the tournament where we were as a team. made a lot of progress in the past three and a half, four years. grown a lot as individuals and as a team but knew we would be underdogs in a lot of these games. never coming into the tournament saying we have the most quality or talent. for men's u.s. soccer, more talent than ever. focused throughout all the games. looking ahead to the game against holland saturday, yeah. we're probably underdogs going into that but don't mind that narrative. don't mind that feeling. going out with confidence and continue to be fearless.

>> it's rog. mazel tov. incredible watching you. five hours drive every day as a kid, you've played hundreds of games of football now. explain to this audience what it feels like to play world cup football? how different this feels? this is what you dreamt absence a tiny kid, and now you're making it real. >> yeah. had enough conversations with you, rog, but, yeah. an amazing feeling. you know, you i'm a world cup, on the stage incredible. i didn't know what it would feel like walking out there first time. almost felt like my first cap again. able to represent 350 million people that could possibly be tuning into the game. i want to go out and be an inspiration to a young kid that

anything is possible. the whole team is giving the country hope that when you believe in something, anything is possible. >> saw it yesterday. captain of the u.s. men's soccer team. >> so great. >> tyler adams, thank you so much. congratulations and good luck. >> thank you so much, guys. all right. roger bennett, thank you as well. and good luck as you roam around. >> certifiable. >> if you see people in orange comingality you, run. >> yeah. >> not normal. getting texts. texts. >> all right. cheers, roger. cheers! >> courage! still ahead on "morning joe," a new experimental drug appears to slow the progression of alzheimer's disease. we're going to talk to an expert from the national institute on aging about this potentially major development. plus -- the united states has unveiled a plan to help ukraine rebuild its

energy grid following recent strikes by russia. we'll talk to senator and foreign relations committee member chris coons about that and also french president emmanuel macron's state visit this week. we're talk about that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. right bac. - [announcer] this is jabra enhance select. it's more than just a hearing aid. it's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive. with jabra enhance select better hearing doesn't have to start in a doctor's office. it starts with our free online hearing test. from there you can fine tune your settings

with your remote audiology team seven days a week so your hearing aids work when it matters most. jabra enhance select hearing aids cost thousands less than you'd expect. so hearing well is easier than ever. try it risk free for 100 days. visit jabraenhance.com we believe our military heroes try it risk free for 100 days. deserve a company who will fight for them just as they do for us. from buying to refinancing, the loan professionals at newday usa have given enlisted veterans a different kind of financial experience. with more ways to help more veterans, no bank, no lender, no one knows veterans like newday usa.

before we begin, i'd like to thank our sponsor, liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. and by switching, you could even save $652. thank you, liberty mutual.

now, contestants ready? go! why? why? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ first of all ub say you support the iranian paem but pronouncing our country's name wrong. our country is name the iran. not iran. get this clear once and for all. second, are you okay to represent a country that has so much discrimination against black people in its own borders and their sort of black lives matter movement over the past years, are you okay to be representing the u.s.? meanwhile, there's so much discrimination happening against black people in america? >> my apologies on the mispronunciation of your country.

yeah. that being said, you know, there's discrimination everywhere you go. you know, one thing that i've learned especially from living abroad in the past year is in having to fit into different cultures and assimilate into different cultures. it's that in the u.s. we're continuing to make progress every single day. you know, growing up for me, i grew up in a white family with obviously an african american heritage and background as well. so i had a little bit of different culture and easily able to assimilate in different cultures, so not everyone has that ease and the ability to do that and obviously it takes longer to understand and through education i think it's super important. like you just educated me now on the pronunciation of your country. yeah. it's a process. i think as long as you see progress that's the most important thing. >> that's tyler adams two days ago as a press conference at the world cup. just our guest a few minutes ago. eddie, you listen to that, first of all handled that probably

better than a lot of people would. iran state-run media lecturing me about human rights while women are being shot and beaten in the streets as we speak, but his answer. first of all, the class, the respect he gave the questioner, didn't really deserve it. talk about a star. not talking about playing soccer, but a guy incredibly thoughtful and understands the country. >> you know, first of all, you see why he's captain of the team. first thing. second thing, you know, u.s. athletes across our history, black u.s. athletes had to face this question. what does it mean to represent a question that seemingly isn't loyal to you? and at every turn i think we've responded in a way to suggest that, you know, the country has its faults, but our presence on the pitch, on the field, on the court suggests that the country belongs to us, too, and in that moment where he talks about progress and education, his on

experience, right? opens the door. he didn't kind of go pollyanish on us. right? he answered in an elegant way to say that, you know, the u.s. isn't alone. i've lived in europe. i've experienced the world and all of its complexity. for a 23-year-old evidenced the kind of maturity and reminded me of a line our paraphrase from james baldwin. we love our country enough such that we criticize it when it fails. just a brilliant way in which he did it. >> we have just witnessed a young man, 23 years of age. you could go to the halls of congress, both sides of the hill, congress, house of representatives, united states senate, and you're not going to find anyone with the eloquence to match what we just saw from tyler, and at one point during the questioning he was being goaded clearly. but he wasn't susceptible to the goading and in his response he said to the questioner, you are just educated me.

and turns it, really, back on the questioner. the maturity, the brilliance, calmness, presence of mind to do what he did was incredible. >> what an incredibly impressive young man with a bright future ahead. beginning on saturday against the netherlands. >> the thing is, did two things against the netherlands. boy, never saw that coming with roger bennett, by the way. >> wow! >> that was something. strong feelings. >> i thought austin powers hated two things, bigots and carneys, what i said. i said, i guess maybe a director that was -- dutch? i don't know. i guess i have to go back and see that. no. he did two things, and we won't dwell on it that much longer but it is remarkable. >> refreshing. all the conversations we have

about how people behave. >> because, willie, what he did, two things. both that actually speak to problems we've had in political discourse over the past several years. one, he did what eddie said. where he talked about the two realities. one, yeah. this country has had great challenges, and -- and the original sin of slavery. we've had to work through that, and at the same time, it's a remarkable country. it's a remarkable country that has moved forward, that keeps moving forward. sometimes we take steps back, but as tyler said, we keep trying to better ourselves, and, my god. if you go across europe, if you go across the rest of the world, you come back to the united states very quickly understanding that it's -- it's not -- there's not enlightenment on racial issues across europe or across the rest of the world.

that's one thing. the second thing he did, mika, which i think is even, i wish, more elected leaders would follow what he did is, he was pushed by a reporter, and he showed grace. >> yeah. >> it was so disconcerting, or so -- i mean, it actually puts you off balance. wait a second. he's apologizing. this guy is being a jerk and he's apologizing to him. he's showing grace, and that opens everything up. that makes everything possible, and in the age of trump we're told politicians are told media people are, seem to believe that the more you attack, the better it is for you. you can never show grace. that was a wonderful moment for that reason alone. >> it really was and worth really putting a frame around i

want to move to an experimental drug that may help treat alzheimer's patients according to the long-awaited results from a phase iii clinical trial. researchers say lecanemab is one of the first drugses that can appear to show progression of cognitive decline but raise concerns of side effects. brain bleeding and swelling. the alzheimer's association said e in a statement it is encouraged by the data. joining us now, adjunct professor at the john hopkins university school of medicine, a doctor who is a senior investigators in the clinical and translational neuroscience section of the national institute on aging at the national institutes of health.

what are you feeling and seeing in terms of the results so far on this drug that is showing in a phase 3 clinical trial. >> thanks a lot, mika, for having me. it's a real pleasure, following roger and ryan. in many decades, this is the first time an experimental drug has been shown to slow the progression of the disease, and as a scientists, myself, trying to discover treatments for this devastating condition, this is a milestone. as a physician who cares for those with alzheimer's and dementia, there are caveats we need to keep in mind. first, the benefit associated

with the drug appears to be small, and it's meaningful how beneficial this could be, and there are some concerns, like brain bleeds, and some patients do run into significant problems with symptoms like headaches, confusion and falls. there have been two reports of deaths associated with this drug, and some patients that take blood thinners, the significant concern of brain bleeds to be high. this is the first step in our attempts to find truly effective treatment for our patients.

>> thank you for your work, and there are other families living with it now. we will take that bit of optimism you just expressed with this new drug. can you explain why alzheimer's is such a difficult problem, and it's such a difficult and sad disease to have to deal with. why is this such a difficult problem from a scientific point of view? >> well, it's a difficult problem from a scientific point of view because it's a big challenge to try and design clinical trials that can help us test effective treatment for the disease. because measuring declines in memory and measuring declines in functional abilities, it's a huge challenge. but coming back to your question about what it does to families.

as a physician i see patients struggling with this disease on a regular basis. it robs a person of memory and robs a person for personality, and it places an enormous emotional toll on caregivers, and a financial burden on caregivers. this is a devastating disease, and i hope that this is the first step in what is likely to be a long road to its effective treatment. >> all right, doctor, thank you very much for coming on the show this morning. >> a great follow-up. tyler adams, thank you. >> yes, thank you very much.

members of the cherokee nation are calling on the united states government to fulfill a nearly 200-year-old promise to grant the tribe a delegate in congress. >> it's what is right and it was negotiated in a treaty and that treaty should be honored. >> that was a promise that was made to the cherokee nation in return for what they sacrificed and lost. >> it's important for the federal government to honor its treaties. >> they get our land and get resources, but they rarely fulfilled their role in honoring the other provisions. >> joining us now, cherokee nation principle chief. he will be among those speaking

today at the very first in-person tribal nation summit at the white house. this is the first one in six years. it's very good to have you on the show. i guess, first of all, if you could talk about the summit and how you plan to address this issue. >> well, the summit is very important. it's a chance for tribal leaders to engage with federal officials, and that's really the relationship in this country, sovereign to the states, and it's important. preservation is on my mind, and this goes to the core of what the country is. is this a country of its word? i think it is or should be, and this is an opportunity for the united states to make good on a promise to the cherokee nation. >> what would that mean for the

cherokee nation to get the delicate as promised so long ago? >> well, it's good substance. to see it all the way for advocating on the house floor, and that's a great deal of influence and opportunity to have a champion for all of indian country, and, yes, it's a cherokee nation, and our delegate is supremely qualified to hold the position. in terms of symbolism, this is one sentence and one treaty for one tribe, and it's about every treaty in the united states, and it's every treaty the united states has signed with every nation, and the united states has broken every treaty it has signed with every indian nation, and this could send a message to not just all tribes in the

united states, but it would send a message to the country that all promises should be kept. >> have there been discussions about the delicate issue with the white house. you have received push back? >> no, no pushback, and i had a call from the united states secretary to the interior, and she's a wonderful cabinet secretary and continued to be interested in this issue and somebody we can talk to it about, and we have had a real welcome from the white house and the biden administration on this issue. on a bipartisan basis, i think we demonstrated this a couple weeks ago when i appeared before the rules committee. there's interest in following through on this promise. there's a lot of promises on the

mechanics of it, and nobody said this shouldn't happen, and that's good news from my perspective. >> thank you very much for coming on the show this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. coming up, a big win for the justice department and its sprawling investigation into the capital insurrection. and democratic senator, chris coons. we'll be right back. in one second, sara yes! will get a job offer somewhere sunnier. relocating in weeks. weeks? yeah, weeks. gotta sell the house. don't worry, sell to opendoor, and move on your schedule. yes! request a cash offer at opendoor.com as a business owner,

your bottom line is always top of mind. yes! so start saving by switching to the mobile service designed for small business: comcast business mobile. flexible data plans mean you can get unlimited data or pay by the gig. all on the most reliable 5g network. with no line activation fees or term contracts. saving you up to 60% a year. and it's only available to comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities.

a top lieutenant, kelly phegz of seditious conspiracy in the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. the charge carries a maximum sentence of 20 years. rhodes' attorney said they plan to appeal this, of course. three other members of the group, jessica watkins, kenneth

heraldson and thomas caldwell were acquitted. a sentencing date has not yet been set. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst, charles coleman. >> thank you for being with us. ken, what do the convictions mean for the doj's cases? >> it's a landmark victory for the doj, and it's the first time in 20 trials a jury has ruled the january 6th riot was the product, in part, of an organized conspiracy. this is the first time since 1995 that the justice department has won a guilty verdict on the

charge, and it is defined the plotting to use force to overthrow or thwart the execution of laws by the u.s. government. that's exactly what this trial showed that these oath keepers did. more than that, it showed they believed they were acting at the behest of and on the orders of former president, donald trump. and the founder of the group, a yale law student graduate, he tried to get in touch with trump on several occasions in the weeks leading up to this and he made it very clear that his only regret as the jury heard on tape, on the tape-recording of a conversation a few days after is the riders did not bring rifles, and he wanted to hang nancy pelosi from a lamp post. >> i want to jump to the communications with

then-president donald trump. what implications did these verdicts have, if any, for any of the legal challenges he is facing? >> well, mika, i don't think for donald trump this bodes well for him at all under any circumstances. if you are talking about it from a principle standpoint, this absolutely undercuts the narrative that people have tried to advance about this being a rally gone bad or anything of that nature, and that's something that is important for somebody like donald trump given the position he's in now, and being embattled on so many different fronts in regards to the legal battles, and it's concerning for donald trump and i think he understands this. now you have something concrete that draws a line between donald trump and illegal activity, even more so than the other investigations that are ongoing. now there may be an additional link, because what you have to understand is with prosecutors

in the doj, gaining momentum after all these convictions, the likelihood of an additional cooperator goes greater and greater and that closes the walls in on donald trump even tighter. if there's information that could link these communications or another communication that we have not heard about yet that emerges, it's a shorter line to see donald trump directly connected to the activity and these convictions. >> can these guys, the oath keepers, they were playing the american revolution and they talked about the weapons they had a motel across the river in arlington, virginia, and they had boats at the ready in case it came to that, they were going to be washington crossing the delaware or something. what message do you think this judgment, this jury sent to people like the oath keepers about that thought, that, yes, they have the right to take up arms and they have the right to take back, in their view, the country from tyranny.

>> exactly, willie, and it was a reminder if people needed one, and i guess some do, that you can't plot to overthrow the government. we have people walking around with weapons, and these people believed they were the last defense from a country they thought they were losing. that was their ideology. they engaged in that rhetoric about defeating tyranny. it could have been a lot worse. they had a lot of weapons stashed in hotel rooms across the river in virginia, and they were hoping donald trump would invoke the insurrection act so they could come in as a militia and keep trump in power, and not only is that a crime, but you will go to prison for long time. these people of facing decades in prison, all five of them.

and they should face significant prison sentences. >> listening to you just now describe the contours and possible ramifications of the verdict came in, all i could think of was the word accessory, accessory, before and after the fact with regard to the former guy in the white house. >> i understand the way you would think of that, and on a certain level it's natural. an accessory is usually looked at somebody who is at the same level, who is participating with you at the time you are doing it. that's a bit of a hurdle in a case like this. i think the goal for prosecutors is going to be how do we really demonstrate that this was at the behest of 45. how do we literally demonstrate this was a direct order or very much so intentional in terms of carrying out instructions given

by the former president? that's the legal theory you would try to precede on in a legal case like this. we don't know, there could be additional cooperators that may have more information about this investigation or what happened on january 6th that we have not been privy too yet. with the doj gaining momentum with all of these convictions, there's more information that is likely going to come out. >> so with the backdrop of supreme court decisions, consistently going against donald trump, 65 federal cases going against donald trump in the election deniers, and juries coming out with these decisions. what does that mean? we have been talking about for sometime for good reason about challenges to american democracy and to the rule of law.

what does a jury verdict like yesterday's mean in that ongoing battle? >> i think it sets the stage for the ultimate question that we have to face. the man who has been at the center, at the heart of challenging our understanding that no human being in the united states is above the law has yet to be held to account. he's lost -- you're right, joe, the oath keepers, steward rhodes has just been found guilty. yes. we have seen folks indicted and found guilty who participated in the january 6th event, but the man who fundamentally challenged the idea that nobody is above the law is still wreaking havoc. so i think it's a step, joe, but until he's held to account, we will find ourselves still grappling with the question of whether or not the rule of law still obtains in the country. >> all right.

>> thank you. >> thank you both. let's bring in right now democratic senator, chris coons, and i am curious of your thoughts about the guilty verdicts yesterday? >> joe, great to be on with you again. i think this was an important verdict. the justice department invested a lot of resources making sure they brought and won a charge against the leaders of the oath keepers for seditious conspiracy, and not a common charge and one that carries a significant jail term as you were saying in the earlier segments of the show. this puts to rest the argument this was some organic protest gone awry. these were folks who were just a little wound up. they planned and resourced and

tried to execute an intervention. we watched the battle between armed protesters and capitol police that costs the lives of several police officers, and shattered the parameter of our building and threatened the lives of both, vice president presence and speaker pelosi. this was an appropriate outcome by an american jury. >> so a question for your other committee on foreign relations, iran, we have been talking about iran today, the usa/iran match yesterday and some of the iranian players, and let's talk generally where the united states stands in relation to the iranian government shooting young women in the street who are protesting. what's our view on iran? what can we do? >> joe, iran, we have hopes for the iranian people but we are

clear-eyed that the iranian regime is brutal, and hundreds of protesters have been killed. the iranian regime has publicly recognized more than 300 have been killed and the real number is almost certainly much higher than that. for decades the united states denounced the brutal human rights record of iran internally and the ways in which they have been profoundly disruptive to the region, by supporting proxies throughout the region and sponsoring assassination attempts and arming groups who have attacked partners and allies of ours, and iran is a country in which the united states has no diplomatic relations. we have tried to negotiate some way to constrain their nuclear program, but at the moment the current iranian regime and the united states have very little in common in our values and in our interests and direction, and i think it's important that we

lift up the iranian protesters. the iranian soccer team did something quite brave, and it may have consequences to them when they return to iran because they were joining in recognizing the legitimacy of the protests of so many young people across iran. >> no doubt about it. >> wow. >> senator, we will go to a member of our "morning joe" mississippi delegation, elise jordan, who has a question for you. >> senator coons, i want to thank you for your continued advocacy for our afghan allies who had been left stranded since the drawdown in afghanistan. can you give us an update on what the government is doing to help those afghans who are over here in limbo and is there progress on the act? >> so many veterans have reached out to me about this. senator klobuchar and i have

been working with a bipartisan group of senators on this, and there's precedence for this, after the fall of vietnam the united states brought tens of thousands of vietnamese to our home country. those who we evacuated from afghanistan are here under a two-year humanitarian parole. we are trying through this bill to give them an opportunity to come forward and be individually vetted in person here in the united states to reinforce the security concerns that many of my colleagues have and give them a legal status here in the united states, an opportunity to be here securely and pursue work opportunities and build families here and to join the american family. that's what happened to the vietnamese that came here and passed a background vetting here, and that's what we need to

do now, otherwise, tens of thousands of afghans in this country who served alongside our troops bravely for years, face the risk of deportation. there's no chance we should force them to go back to face the taliban. our office was working this week for a family where the taliban are going to their home day after day, trying to find an individual who was a critical part of our war effort there for 20 years. >> those fighters and translators were promised that protection. we will continue to cover that story. and then the respect for marriage act passing 61-36 with 12 republican votes. we have been talking this morning about the evolution just in the last decade even on the issue of gay marriage. now 71% of americans according to gallup support that, and that was 27% in 1996. can you speak to the

significance as a practical matter of passing that and also as a historic matter? >> this is a historic action of the congress of the united states to put in place a passage of what was protected by the supreme court like protecting the right to same-sex marriage. there was a lot of debate about it and it was something i was asked about on the campaign trail, and i supported marriage equality then and it was not the law of the land. because of the activism of the supreme court and overturning roe v. wade, and the opinions written by justice thomas opening the door to the possibility of reversing those

protections, we needed to take this up and act, and it passed with 61 votes. and the house will take it up, pass the senate version and send it to the president's desk next week. this provides some protection, a recognition that love is love here in the united states. >> senator coons, good morning. french president emmanuel macron is in town, and will be honored at a state dinner tomorrow, and there was a unity with respect to the u.s. and there is strain growing on the alliance and tension, and europeans upset about economic issues and opinions as to how and when that war should come to an end. what can be done to smooth over

differences between europe and the u.s.? >> one of the most important things we can do is to meet with our close and trusted allies to hear their concerns and do our best to work together. i think one of president biden's greatest moments of leadership is the way he pulled together our nato allies, our european in support of ukraine, and i recently had the chance to go to kyiv and along with senator rob portman with ohio to present the liberty medal, somebody who i believe has been an exceptional leader. our french allies joined this effort and provided robust military and humanitarian support. they are hosting ukrainian refugees. we do have points of difference on our views about domestic policy, industrial policy in particular. the incentives that are recently enacted, it provides for

electric vehicle manufacturing. i am hosting a lunch for president macron today, and it will be a conversation about conservation in an area where he has been a global leader and convened important global meetings, and we have a bedrock of shared value. the american revolution would not have been successful without the assistance of the french and french military. we are today engaged in a similar effort with the united states france, and many others are helping the ukrainians secure their sovereignty. these deep ties will help us to have a productive visit. i am very much looking forward to a series of important conversation with president macron of france. >> you wear a lot of hats. we appreciate it. i want to ask you about

another big story, the house planning to vote today to block a potential rail strike in the back and forth with the unions. president biden supporting that idea to block the strike. how is this playing out? >> this is a particularly thorny issue of the white house. this came up over the summer, early fall, there was a chance of a strike then and a deal was reached. i was in the white house when they reached an agreement, and now others backed out and there's a chance of a real strike again which could lead to significant economic consequences as we head into the holidays, as train traffic will grind to a halt across the country. this is a tough one for biden, not just because he loves trains, but he's so pro union, and he's perhaps our most pro union president in generations. now a lot of these railway workers are upset that he is not hearing concerns, and they are

looking at a few days of sick pay. biden is getting heat from the progressives to the left and the unions that have been firmly in his camp. >> progressives from the left are hitting it, and let's take it out of context for a second. they initially asked for 15 days of paid sick leave, and they went down to four. this industry made $20 billion in profit last year. that's all we are talking about is folk getting paid sick leave, right? it seems to me in light of covid, in light of the flu, in light of rsv, it makes sense. it's about greed and basic decency. >> and there has been frustration, and he said in the white house yesterday that this is a difficult conclusion, a difficult place to get to, but the sense is the national

economic gain outweighs these workers concerns. >> speaker pelosi said they will have that deal and a separate vote of giving rail workers seven days of getting sick leave. >> we will go live to capitol hill next hour for more on this. ahead on "morning joe," mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy are weighing in on trump's dinner with white nationalists. we will take a look at what each of them had to say. iran's national soccer team could face retribution after the loss against team usa. we'll be right back. ack. enough was enough. i talked to an asthma specialist and found out my severe asthma

is driven by eosinophils, a type of asthma nucala can help control. now, fewer asthma attacks and less oral steroids that's my nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. talk to your asthma specialist to see if once-monthly nucala may be right for you. and learn about savings at nucala.com there's more to your life than asthma. find your nunormal with nucala.

the protesters that took to china's streets to challenge harsh coronavirus measures are now reportedly being tracked down using the country's

extensive surveillance system in an effort to prevent future demonstrations. chinese authorities appear to be preventing fresh protests by taking root and planning police. a planned protest was canceled after large numbers of police turned up at locations in the city according to social media reviewed by "the wall street journal." and similarly, protests were canceled in beijing and shapb high. besides hundreds of billions of cameras, some equipped with facial recognition software that line city streets, the police can access detailed mobile phone and social media data that shows peoples' locations at a given time. the defiance began over the weekend in major cities across

china as frustration over the zero covid policy came to a head. the iranian team in the world cup could have an unwelcomed return home. the country did sing the country's national anthem, and the players were threatened with imprisonment and torture if they did not, quote, behave, after failing to sing the anthem. and a win guest the u.s. could have eased the transgressions, but iranian players are now stuck in an untenable position facing fines or arrests once they arrive home as retaliation as disloyalty and not beating the united states. it was an incredible account of

courage for the iranian players in the first game not to sing the national anthem, and speaking out for the women of iran, and some of them being attacked in the streets as we speak. they may face the consequences as they head home. >> it was really terrible as watching the game, obviously cheering on team usa, and at the same time you couldn't help but feel for the iranian players. we go back to the '68 olympics and the raised clinched fist in '68, and that was so courageous. you look at the world players in the olympics in mexico city, not singing the national anthem with a regime that could kill them and jail them and torture them and kill and imprison their families, and it showed courage, and it was difficult to watch

the iranian players afterwards because of what they may face when they get home. >> i know. joining us a man who focuses on iran and the u.s. foreign policy towards the middle east. very interested in your thoughts on, number one, what the iranian players are facing, what you are hearing could happen to them and their families, and what the geopolitical implications are of all this. >> mika, that's a great question. this game took place against the backdrop of the largest national up risings, and over the last three months nearly 500 iranians have been killed, and remember, this is a regime whose identity is premised on anti-americanism. its official slogan is death to america. it wanted this propaganda

victory over the united states, and as you eluded to, the threats to the players, if they were to exhibit any acts of protests against the regime, their families would be in trouble and their assets would be confiscated, and it ended badly for the regime, because people in iran cheered the united states victory. i think this is a reminder, mika, that despite this is the most anti-american regime in the world it's one of the most pro american societies in the world. there you go. >> that has always been -- i talk to friends in the cia that always said the great irony was that -- this was a decade ago, but they said the countries who are the greatest geopolitical threats, the people that consider the united states their enemy, and they talked about

iran and at the time, syria, when they were in damascus or tehran, people there loved americans and couldn't ask enough about american society, where some of our allies have an open hostility towards the united states, or at least did in the past. can you talk about that? again, i find myself in this -- in this strange position when i am watching iran play, and in past world cups, because -- the -- the government's epicenter of international terrorism has been since 1979, and yet the people from everything i have heard are wonderful and most are pro american. the culture and civilization and the history and heritage, there's just not a more remarkable civilization on earth

than that civilization, and i never have been able to put those realities together. how could it be that these thugs have captured such a vibrant and wonderful civilization for almost 50 years now? >> joe, you have two very powerful forces in iran. you have young modern society, which is desperately seeking wholesale fundamental change, and they have at their back a civilization, as you talked about, is 125 years old and they are proud of the civilization and want to be an up standing member of the international community, and then you have the regime that has been in power for 43 years and it's ruthless and it believes it's either rule or die. they have no friends in the world. in contrast to the shaw's

government in 1978, when many elites of the shaw's government were able to remake their lives in london or los angeles when the revolution happened, they were friendless, and so these forces continue to play out in iran. there's no guarantee people will prevail in the near term, but i think it's certainly guaranteed this is a regime that is not sustainable. >> so what changes things in iran? i am thinking back to the green revolution of 2009 and 2010 which was previously the largest demonstration we have seen inside the country since the revolution in '79. if everything you said is true and joe is right where the country is a young country and wants to be a modern country, i should say, so what breaks the strangle hold this small group of authoritarian leaders have on the rest of the population? >> what we know from history,

willie, is for popular up risings to succeed, you need pressure from below and also elite divisions, elite divisions at the top, and we have iran have a desire for popular change, but we have not seen the fissures at the top, the elite divisions. this regime are 20% idiots and 80% charlottetons, and what that means is 20% believe in the ideology, and now 80% don't believe the ideology, and they are in it for financial expediency. you will start to see fissures within that that 80%. >> senior fellow for international peace, thank you for your insight this morning. coming up, one of our next

guest is an outspoken progressive that represents an area once described as reagan country. we'll speak with congresswoman katie porter about her re-election, and the issues driving democrats next term. "morning joe" is back in a moment. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!!! what does it do, bud? it customizes our home insurance so we only pay for what we need! and what did you get, mike? i got a bike. ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

you've put your dreams on hold. remember this? but i spoke to our advisor, and our vanguard investments are on track.

“we got this, babe.” so go do what you love. thanks for being our superhero. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor—you're an owner. giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. that's the value of ownership. folks, it looks like we're gonna have to land this big old bird giving you flexibility to follow your dreams. earlier than expected because it's the xfinity black friday sale. get the fastest mobile service with xfinity mobile. yeah, we'll be cruising in to get the best price for 2 lines of unlimited for just $30 each per month. oh my! plus, for a limited time, get 500 dollars off an eligible 5g phone. even you in 22c. flight attendants, prepare for big savings. drop everything and get to the xfinity black friday sale. click, call or visit a store today.

the senate passed landmark legislation to codify protections for same-sex and interracial marriages. it was approved by a vote of 61-36 with all democrats and 12 republicans. the measure heads back to the house for a final vote and then it would go to president biden, who said he looks forward to signing it. the president issued a statement yesterday writing in part, quote, with today's bipartisan

senate passage for the respect for marriage act, the united states is on the brink of providing a fundamental truth. love is love and americans should have the right to marry the person they love. >> elise jordan, it is -- i have to say, when i saw the vote, i was just stunned. 61-36. i knew it was coming. i still couldn't believe it because our recent past, politically, would never suggested this would have happened in 2022. 2004, republicans put a gay marriage ban -- same-sex marriage bans on initiatives in every swing state they could because they knew it would drive up vote and help them win the election. four years later obama, a

progressive president we have had, and barack obama said he was against same-sex marriage, and four years later in the 2012 campaign, just a decade ago, joe biden got absolutely crushed by the obama white house, was -- i remember it in real time, getting reports out of the white house that nobody would talk to him. he would go into meetings, and he was dead man walking inside that white house because he dared to go on "meet the press" and say he supported same-sex marriage. think about that. that's just ten years ago, right? here we are 61-36. when that vice president who was attacked inside a progressive administration for saying he supported same-sex marriage and

ari duncan, the next day, he came on "morning joe" and said he supported it to, and he faced a firestorm when he went back to the white house. i say that to say, my god, ten years later it passes in a breeze. bipartisan legislation, that's a pretty extraordinary decade. >> joe, what an example this issue is of how the american people are often further ahead than politicians on human rights issues. you look at where vice president -- then vice president joe biden, where he was and how he was ahead of the politics within the democratic establishment, but he could tell what the pulse of the voters was. you look at today and most republicans are behind this, and it's just such a human rights triumph in america that this is not even a point of debate or

point of convention anymore, really, but it's just -- you look at the other issues that there still are outstanding, and we still have places to come. i wonder if women's health, though, is another example of where politicians are out of step of where the voters are. >> you got 12 republicans to vote on this, and still a bunch did not vote for the federal protection of gay marriage. but when you look over the last decade of where barack obama was, and we have had guests on our show ten years ago, and duncan was the education secretary, and it was a big deal when he said i support same-sex marriage, and that was big breaking news. and the polls in the country, even among the republicans it's a vast majority decision to respect and honor gay marriage in this country. quite a movement in a decade. >> yeah, there has not been nothing more quickly in the

public as gay marriage. 12 republicans, more than they anticipated they would get. it was a triumphant mood in the senate yesterday, and next week it's expected to pass and president biden said he will sign it as soon as he can. and biden was ahead of many when he was vice president, and this was taken up because of the dobbs decision and the abortion rights being overturned and there was a quick move to codify this, to protect this. it happened and happened quickly. proponents are really pleased. we will see the president sign it likely in the next week or so. coming up, the latest from the world cup where team usa is coming off a big win over iran. a preview of what's ahead when "morning joe" comes right back.

in 3 seconds, 15 couples will share a perfect moment. oh, wow. but we got to sell our houses. well, almost perfect. my place is too small, your place is too far. selling them means repairs, listings, cleanings. what's the market even like? this could take like... forever. or, more like days. skip the hassles and sell directly to opendoor. done.

yes. oh, yes. get your free offer at opendoor.com

♪ ♪ this... is a glimpse into the no-too-distant future of lincoln. ♪ ♪ it's what sanctuary could look like... feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part? the prequel is pretty sweet too. ♪ ♪ real-time ticket upgrade! meaning... i get to meet my childhood idol. that works. i named my dog joey fatone. when your customer experience works, the world works. that's why the world works with servicenow. if you run a small business, you need the most from that every investment.orks that's why comcast business gives you more. more innovation... with our new gig-speed wi-fi, plus unlimited data.

more speed... from the largest, fastest, reliable network... and more savings- up to 60% a year with comcast business mobile. all from the company that powers more businesses than any other provider. get started with fast speeds and advanced security for $49.99 a month for 12 months. plus ask how to get up to a $750 prepaid card with a qualifying bundle.

mika, i want to go back about joe biden and something you always said about how he gets politics. this guy from delaware that has been underestimated his entire life, and he gets politics. he was mocked, ridiculed and just bluntly loathed by a progressive white house when he was too progressive for their tastes on marriage equality. you look back, 2020, that presidential field for the democratic nomination, he was mocked and ridiculed, he was too old, he was too senile and moderate, and there were all of these progressives that were -- they just looked down on him. they just flat out looked down on this guy. outlooked down on s guy. he won. he beat them all. >> yeah. >> history has proven them to be right. it was the obama white house that was wrong. i'm sure they're all embarras

ed how badly they treated joe biden ten years ago for him being right on a civil rights issue. all the things written about joe biden in the 2020 campaign, that he couldn't win, he wasn't up to it, he's too old, he beat everybody and then he beat donald trump. and look at what happened in 2022. red wave, red wave, red wave, except we weren't talking about a red wave. he outplays everybody's expectations for him, it seems just about every time. >> he knows his politics. he knows the long game and he knows how to walk through the naysayers and the underestimating and put the blinders onto that and move forward. if you look at how he's handling ukraine, which is an unbelievable huge issue, it's masterful. americans are less tuned into

that because of the divisions and economy they face at home. he focused on abortion and the future of our democracy and restoring our democracy. he knew exactly what the touch points were no matter what everybody else was saying. >> willie, he was mocked and ridiculed for talking about democracy, talking about abortion. i wouldn't mention the podcast but i listened to a podcast the week before the election, people that everybody here knows. the entire podcast was mocking and ridiculing joe biden for focusing on abortion and on democracy. he ended up being right. they all ended up being wrong. >> check the exit polls in pennsylvania and michigan. he wasn't alone in believing

abortion was going to be a persistent issue but a narrative formed that, well, it was red hot in the summer and died down. that wasn't the case and it turned out to be decisive in a couple of states where governors and secretaries of state were elected in michigan because of the issue of abortion. coming up how the unions are responding to a possible block of the strike. ding to a possiblk of the strike. trying to control my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ enough was enough.

i talked to an asthma specialist and found out my severe asthma is driven by eosinophils, a type of asthma nucala can help control. now, fewer asthma attacks and less oral steroids that's my nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. talk to your asthma specialist to see if once-monthly nucala may be right for you. and learn about savings at nucala.com there's more to your life than asthma. find your nunormal with nucala.

if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, innovation refunds could qualify it for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee. all it takes is eight minutes to find out. then work with highly qualified professionals to fill out your forms and submit the application.

go to innovationrefunds.com to learn more. there were more than a dozen reports of possible tornados overnight, mostly in louisiana and mississippi. nbc news correspondent sam brock has the latest on the severe weather across the south. >> reporter: in the middle of the night, few things could be scarier than a black funnel

cloud filling the sky against the sound of sirens. this tornado in bassfield, mississippi, one of more than 20 sightings, storms bringing in massive wind gusts to the region. lounds county with roofs ripped off homes and the local fire station destroyed. >> this building will have to come down and we'll have to rebuild. >> reporter: power companies working through the night to clear downed lines and trees. fortunately, no serious injuries reported. winds ripped the steeple right off this church. in caldwell parish, louisiana, a tornado damaged several homes. these nocturnal tornados are historically 2 1/2 times more deadly than those that happen during the day. so far, though, no reports of

fatalities. lightning flickered with violent frequency. mother nature's wrath on display. the january 6th committee chairman betty thompson says the panel's final report is almost completed. he also said there is a good possibility the report is released before christmas, but doubts it would come before the house departs for break december 16th. the "washington post" has reported on concern among some committee staffers that the report will focus too much on donald trump. adam schiff says he hopes the report also includes findings unrelated to trump and that lawmakers are close to a consensus on what to include in it. we know the committee is still conducting interviews.

tony ornato, a former secret service agent who was deputy chief of staff under trump, spoke to the committee yesterday. you may recall cassidy hutchinson testified that ornato told her trump became enraged after being told he couldn't join a crowd of supporters the day of the capitol attack. >> i looked at tony. he said, did you effing here what happened in the beast? tony proceeded to tell me the president said something to the effect of, "i'm the effing president, take me to the capitol now." the president reached towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel and used his free hand to lung toward bobby engel. >> they probably want to hear