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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> since the last time i was here, mr. walker has been talking about issues that are of great importance to the people of georgia. like whether it's better to be a vampire or a werewolf. this is a debate that i must confess i once had myself -- when i was 7. >> four days to the georgia runoff and with that guy, former president barack obama in his corner, senator raphael warnock appears to have the momentum. while the walker campaign makes a desperate plea for cash. plus, rachel maddow joins me in a few minutes. we'll talk about white nationalism on the rise in america, eerily reminiscent of the 1930s which she explores in her amazing podcast, ultra. >> also tonight, 2023 is shaping up to be a very bad year for
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donald trump. as his legal defeats continue to mount. could we finally be on the verge of justice and accountability? and even newt gingrich is saying it. president biden is winning. my political panel weighs in on that and the big proposed changes to the democrats' primary calendar. >> we begin "the reidout" tonight with a tweet from president joe biden, one that rides simply, i just want to make a few things clear. the holocaust happened. hitler was a demonic figure, and instead of giving it a platform, our political leaders should we calling out anti-semitism wherever it hides. silence is complicity. >> four sentences we might read and think duh, but the fact the president of the united states felt the need to tweet today in the year of our lord, 2022, that the holocaust happened and hitler was bad, payments a pretty stark picture of where we are as a country. let's just take a look at everything that's happened in just the last week.
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today, the founder of the neonazi daily stormer website, andrew england, had his twitter account restored. this is someone who said just months ago, quote, hitler was aesthetically very cool. i don't think even the jews could argue with that, unquote. and then in a weird sort of one on for one off trade, you have a clearly diminished capacity person, formerly famous for his hip-hop game, but now known for saying things like i like hitler, and we have to stop dissing the nazis, namely, kanye west or ye, or whatever. was rebanned from twitter overnight for posting a picture of a swastika inside a star of david, because of course he did. meanwhile, ye's new side kick, basement nazi nick fuentes who has compared the victims of concentration camps to cookies in an oven, who drew a tucker carlson comparison from the daily show for rants like this. >> when you look at these things like abortion, it's popular.
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people like abortion. hate it. but it's true. and you can thank the jewish media for that. abortion is popular, sodomy is popular, being gay is popular, being a feminist is popular. sex out of wedlock is popular. it's all popular. that's not to say it's good. that's not to say i like that. popular means the people support it, which they do. and it sucks and it is what it is, but that's why we need dictatorship. that's why we need to get rid of all that. we need to take control of the media, take control of the government, and force the people to believe what we believe. >> that weirdo and ye were revealed to be the dinner guests of the former president of the united states. one-time reality time show star and serially bankrupt real estate developer donald trump because we all already died and we're living in purgatory. several republicans denounced that dinner claiming to be outraged trump would do such a
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thing, despite the fact he's it's completely in line with what he's done in the past, including members of his party are doing, paul gosar and marjorie taylor greene, sitting members who spoke this year at a conference for the organization that fuentes founded. and you didn't see the pearl clutching from republicans back then. and even if they are denouncing it now, it doesn't mean that they didn't give those very people a platform in the first place or that members of the party don't regularly traffic in anti-semitism adjacent hyperventilation over george soros and globalism. it all just goes to show how this kind of far right extremism is making a creepy comeback. to the point where the department of homeland security this week published a terrorism advisory bulletin warning about the, quote, persistent and lethal threats to the lgbtq, jewish, and migrant communities from violent extremists inside the united states. now this, as awful as it may be,
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should not shock people. we have seen this movie before. history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure often does rhyme. we're in a sort of 1930s moment. hate, specifically anti-semitism and white nationalism, they're on the right on the right, aided in some cases by politicians. in her podcast, ultra, my friend and colleague rachel maddow tells a story of a time not too long ago in our country's history when a nazi agent named george sylvester byron attempted to infiltrate congress. >> with the help of his pal, senator earnest lundin, george sylvester had roped in dozens of sitting members of congress to help him launder and disseminate nazi propaganda using the ressources of the united states congress. >> we have a number of the biggest figures in american politics in this period, men who were trucy household names, the biggest names in republican congressional politics, they all full under the spell of this
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nazi propaganda operation. >> joining me now is the great rachel maddow, host of the rachel maddow show, as well as the awesome podcast, ultra, which is my current binge. rachel, great city you, as always. i just want to let you talk because, i mean, we are in a moment where it is like, right, it's like people are like, oh, my god. there's nazis on the twitter again. it's like, yeah, because there's been nazis around for a long time. talk a little bit about it. >> yeah, first of all, thank you for having me, joy. great to see you. i mean, i feel like the big thing i took away from the research and all the time i spent to build out that story of this podcast is that it is easy and sort of tempting to look for historical analogies for our bad, inexplicable bad guys of this age. it's interesting to look back and say who was their trump or their kanye west or their elon musk or who was, you know,
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whoever it is you want to try to figure out some sort of context for. and you can do that. you can fine those people. but what is more pressing to me and more telling and actually more practical in terms of what the lessons of history are is that the real historical analogy is us. a certain proportion of the american public likes this stuff. and falls for it over and over again and discovers it anew, like the same way every new generation believes they discovered sex. every new generation of americans believes they have discovered this efficient wave of the future where democracy was slow, boring democracy, lets all the wrong people have decision making power instead will be replaced with this efficient leadership who makes everybody believe what we believe and we go back to the good old games where everybody was the same color. it's just the same appeal over and over and over again. and for me, that is helpful because it means you don't need to actually be good at it.
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donald trump isn't great at this message. elon musk isn't great at this message. kanye west is not great at this message. none of them are, but we are to a certain level, a certain number of us are primed to like it even when it's presented in this ham handed way. that's helpful because we need to have kind of a permanent anti-fascist consciousness to fight back against it. because somebody will always be peddling it. >> sometimes, i was having this conversation with a friend the other day. there's something about america that i think because it's such a young country without an old origin story, if we wanted to do an ancient origin story, we would have to acknowledge the indigenous. our sort of cultural story is super young. and so it feels like there's almost a constant quest to figure out, like, who's really controlling it all. and there's sort of, it's almost like a substitute for religion. as america and the whole west becomes more secular, people are replacing it with this need to
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have someone is orchestrating the things going wrong in my life. like, what's the ancient story? and here, now, you have for a lot of -- and i'm not talking about people who are openly nazis at all. i'm saying there's a common vernacular on the right that is the globalists, right, they can't just be that more people like to vote for democrats. george soros is orchestrating this. it can't be that black people wanted civil rights. the jews are tricking them and making them want civil rights. it feels like that's a common theme, which is why i do love ultra, because it's like, wait a minute, this is like a common theme. there are some -- and unfortunately, the train that's never late is that it's the jews. it's the jewish people getting attacked. >> always. and anti-semitism and authoritarianism are always sistered together. always, always, always. when you see not only a rise in the expression of anti-semitism but a sort of mainstreaming of it, and one of the major political parties of our two-party governing system
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flirting with it in a way that doesn't immediately get denounced throughout the political system, like that, there isn't a surprise i think that that's going with the sort of protoo authoritarian movements you're seeing in that party. those things always go together. joy, i think the largest point is exactly right. there's an american democratic experiment, which is not ancient. a couple centuries and still going. but the american democratic experiment is that a country that is made up of all different kinds of people, from all over the place, all get an equal say. and to the extent that freaks you out, it's hard to argue, although some on the right right now are, some in the ultra right are, it's hard to argue we don't want american democracy anymore. democracy is uncomfortable because we don't like everybody having a say. we prefer that just we have a say. it's easier to say, our country has been hijacked by demonic forces and shady people behind the scenes that you can't see. that always lends itself to anti-semitism or toward whatever
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kind of kabul you want to imagine. but at its core, it's just something you hide behind when what you don't want is to participate as an equal citizen with others who are different than you in a group decision making process. you don't get to be in charge. you just get to be a citizen among many. for people who don't want that, the idea is where they often first go. >> you know what's interesting, ben collins was on last night and he said something i thought was really smart. you have this radicalized elite now. so people like donald trump and people like elon musk, they're just subject to the same kind of radicalization that kids in their basements are getting, that are coming up with conspiracy theories, they just have this magnified power because of their wealth and their sort of kind of systemic power. what in ultra, not to give away the ending, but we kind of know historically how it ended. that build-up of kind of naziism in the united states eventually did get pushed down. i think is one of the lessons
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which is why i love history and i love what you did with ultra, because we do need to learn from history how we got out of it. what did you take away from the research for ultra of how we were able to push back those radicalized elites who wanted to overthrow the government and who had power, had monetary power and in some cases political power. there were members of congress in this. what did you take away from how we could actually push back? >> i think the very -- i'm never accused of being helpful. that's never been -- but to the extent that there's a little glimmer of a some sort of dark cloud having a thought about a silver lining, is that the members of congress, as you mentioned, who were involved with this nazi agent, at least two dozen members of congress working with a paid senior nazi agent in congress to use the powers of congress to do the work of the hitler government here and distribute nazi propaganda. it was crazy. the little glimmer of hope in
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that story is that a lot of those members of congress were really, really powerful. they were the most influential members of congress at the time. you know, it was harry truman's mentor from the senate. it was the senator from north dakota who very likely could have been presidential timber and was seen that way. it was perhaps the most influential member of the house who wasn't the speaker of the house. really the elite in congress in terms of their power. and they all got caught up in this nazi thing. and it was exposed. and the trial, the great sedition trial which includes that nazi agent and a bunch of people working with him, ends up going off the rails and all sorts of bananas ways for all sorts of bananas reasons. but there's journalism, activism, and there is basically the public communication function of that trial that communicates very clearly to the american people what those members of congress were doing. and even though they were the most powerful members of congress at the time, they were all voted out.
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they were all voted out, either by their political parties in primaries or in the general election. included guys who had held their seats for 20 and 25 years. and that sort of accountability that like, yeah, maybe you guys didn't end up in jail, but you did end up totally obscure and forgotten about and completely out of power because you were turfed out when people realized what you had done. that form of accountability matters. even if you're always going to have a violent ultra right and i think we sort of always will, when they get attached to power, people with political power, that's what supercharges them. if people in political power get voted out when it's exposed that they're working with these, that's something that does the country a lot of good. >> i love you for so many reasons. democracy is just the answer to it. unfortunately, it's the boring answer, not the most sexy answer, but democracy is the answer to all of this, and exposure and the great journalism of people like rachel
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maddow. you're amazing. thank you so much for taking the time out on a friday night. tell susan i'm sorry that this wasn't like the fun friday night of you guys' dreams, but it's tv. how fun is that? how fun are our jobs? >> you're going to be on joy? that's great. happy to be here. >> thank you very much. for the three of you who have not done so yet, join me in this wormhole. it's a great place to be because it's rachel maddow. why wouldn't you want to be in this wormhole with us. rachel maddow presents ultra is available. the final episode. listen to that episode. it's awesome. you can scan the qr code on your screen because it's magic and listen to all eight episodes and binge it or go wherever you get your podcasts. thank you so much. >> okay. we love rachel so much. up next on "the reidout," if georgia voters want to do herschel walker a huge favor, apparently the favor they could do is send him back to his home in texas. his beautiful home, apparently, and put a merciful end to the
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this is a debate that i must confess i once had myself -- when i was 7. as far as i'm concerned he can be anything he wants to be except for a united states senator. >> it's his delivery that makes it so funny. former president barack obama doing what literally nobody does better in atlanta last night, making the case against republican herschel walker at a rally for senator raphael warnock. warnock made his own case ahead of the last day of early voting ahead of tuesday's run pch off voting. >> he was an amazing running back. and come next tuesday, we're going to send him running back to texas. >> that's a good line. a good line, too. a short time later, herschel walker, who will not let reporters anywhere near him these days, weirdly, went to the friendly confines of fox news for another joint interview with
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his apparent handler, south carolina senator lindsey graham in what has become a routine, seemed to do most of the talking. >> they're afraid of herschel walker. he transforms the republican party. it's not just about this election. it's about the future of the party. >> it's all about turnout as of now. thank you. >> that was nice of lindsey to let herschel get a word in edge wise. today is the last day of early voting in the state of georgia in a week that already smashed records as evidenced by long lines at polling places. more than 1.4 million votes have been cast and officials said today should set another record. of course, those turnout records come with a huge caveat since georgia's new 2021 voting law added restrictions on mail-in ballots. since they did that, mail-in voting plummeted by 81% from 2020 levels, driving voters into those long lines at the polls. meaning it's on purpose. joining me now is roger solomon burger, a political reporter for
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the daily beast, and juanita tolliver, msnbc political analyst, democratic strategist, and co host of the what a day podcast. ladies first. it is interesting to watch sort of the way that each of the campaigns is using surrogates. obviously, president obama is the ultimate great surrogate and warnock is a pastor, he can speak for himself. you have maxwell alejandro frost who just got elected, the young star from florida, is coming up on monday and tuesday for warnock. on the other side, trump isn't coming, but marjorie greene, marjorie taylor greene is going to come campaign for walker this weekend. according to steve bannon, of course. your thoughts on the surrogate game. >> i feel like it's surrogates for warnock. it's chaperones for herschel walker. he doesn't get to talk when these people are around. they're literally like, shut up and sit there and be our token because that is exactly what he is to the gop. everybody sees it.
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everybody sees it. but on the warnock side, we know that when the most popular democrat in the country strolls onto that stage with all of hiswagger and delivers a closing argument for warnock, not only is it going to give the campaign a boost, but it's going to get more people to turn out because that's what it comes down to, and it's going to give the organizer who have been jumping through every voter suppression hoop that republican leaders put out there to try to bring this home for democrats. >> yeah. and kemp. kemp was the author of the voter suppression in the state. it's hard to get away from the idea, roger, that it's being made pretty clear that lindsey graham views herschel walker as a potential puppet for him, and a potential way for him to have power because he would then in his mind control this other senator as he already bullied the black senator from his home state. is there any thinking inside the walker campaign or any -- i mean, walker world, that he is
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being used, that he is viewed by people like lindsey graham as a puppet for lindsey's power? >> i really don't have too much insight into the walker campaign's view of their candidate outside what i have reported. and i think it's notable with lindsey that in september, he came forward and proposed this federal abortion ban, right? and walker was the only senate candidate who outwardly got behind it. and what i know is that after that was proposed, that is when the first woman told me, now i really do need to come forward and say something about this. the walker campaign, as i reported back in july, that herschel is a liar. they know that. he lied to them about the existence of these kids. so you talk about tokenism, i'm not really sure what the gop's plan was. i think this was a juggernaut
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maybe that they couldn't control, the bottom line is when he decided to run, he was running. he had donald trump behind him. he was able to raise, you know, millions and millions of dollars. he went dollar for dollar with raphael warnock in the first month. he was pretty much unstoppable. and the question that i have is why did they put their foot on the gas on the abortion issue specifically when he knew full well that this stuff was still out there? >> let me play what brian kemp had to say about your reporting. obviously, the new reporting coming out from you is there now is an on the record accuser, sheryl parsa, she's gan on the record with these domestic violence allegations. one of five people who spoke with the daily beast. this is your reporting. here's governor kemp's response to your reporting. >> i'm not an avid reader of the daily beast. i would always take, you know, these accusations very seriously. but voters have to ask themselves why is this coming out four days before a runoff
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election? that's the decision that voters are going to have to decide. >> i mean, roger, you're not a campaign person. you're a reporter. what do you make of his questioning of the timing of your story? >> i wonder if he's ever spoken to a woman about domestic abuse. that's what i wonder. why does it take so long? you know, i mean, why does it have to get to this place where they feel like they do need to come out and speak up here? she put her name on this, and she knew exactly what the risks were for doing that. she's incredibly brave. all the women who have spoken to me are incredibly brave. i can say a lot of women did not feel comfortable coming forward with stories. i'll put it that way. that there is, you know, just a great deal of personal pain behind it and embarrassment, risk, there's the political factor. there's a lot of reasons why someone would not want to come forward or why someone might want to wait a little while. this is not a democratic
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operative job. this is women who have had enough. >> absolutely. and you know, it doesn't shock me that brian kemp wouldn't have a lot of empathy for that. he presides over a state that basically outlaws abortion at six weeks. quickly, before we go, juanita, this has resulted in clear polling that is about walker. very few people have a favorable -- he's underwater in favorable opinion. he's underwater in whether he's well qualified and underwater when it comes to whether he has good judgment. to what do you attribute the fact that despite very few voters respecting him in the state, he's neck and neck with raphael warnock? >> you're going to have republicans who are going to ride with herschel walker to the very end. in november on that ballot, he underperformed every other republican on the ballot. i think he underperformed kemp by 200,000 plus votes, and since on this runoff ballot, it's only him and warnock, i think we're going to see a much bigger
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divide because republicans are fed up. >> yeah, indeed. roger and great reporting and thank you very much and god bless those women who did have the bravery to come forward, and juanita tolliver, our friend, thank you. >> a big announcement before we take a break. "the reidout" will be coming to you live from manuel's tavern in atlanta on monday. the eve of the georgia runoff finale. we will have a ton of exciting guests. if you're in the area, come by. if not, tune in. it's going to be an amazing show, and that invitation includes you, herschel. know that you're inviting so you can come on over and we can have that debate that you asked me for before you started ghosting my producers. call us. >> and up next, a stinging rebuke from an appeals court in trump's special master request as the january 6th committee needs to consider criminal referrals. we'll be right back.
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documents seized by the fbi at donald trump's florida resort. in doing so, they frankly dragged judge aileen cannon, a trump appointee, for her earlier decision to give trump that special treatment in the first place. the panel wrote it is indeed extraordinary for a warrant to be executed at the home of a former president. but not in a way that affects our legal analysis or otherwise gives the judiciary license to interfere in an ongoing investigation. to create a special exception here would defy our nation's foundational principle that our law applies to all, without regard to numbers, wealth, or rank. joining me now is jill wine banks, former assistant watergate prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. jill, thank you for being here, my friend. you know, i'm not a lawyer, but i read that ruling as nothing less than a dragging. because what they were essentially saying to judge cannon is, you made up a thing
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that isn't real. that because trump is a former president, when a search warrant gets executed on him, that should be treated differently as if it was executed on joy reid or jill wine banks. what did you make of that ruling? >> everything in the opinion, and it's a per curiam, which means all three judges agreed to everything in it. it's not signed by any one in particular. and that includes the chief justice of the 11th circuit, judge pryor, who is from one of the most conservative backgrounds ever. all three are republican appointees. and they all basically said the law is the law, and we are sticking with the law. they said none of the things that the judge did, judge cannon, have any relevance to the cases that we have ever seen before. and it would entitle every single person who has ever had a
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search to do the same thing because we cannot carve out just for one person. a man named donald trump. he does not get anything special. so it was really a victory for our system of justice, for the rule of law. it was a very well written opinion. and it did, i think you're quite correct in saying that it dragged judge cannon through the mud. it really slapped her down. at every opportunity they could, they just made it clear that she was completely off the mark. >> and it's not just, these weren't just republican appointees. one was his appointee. donald trump appointed, one, he was president, his whole mission with mitch mcconnell was to fill up the judiciary with trump people. well, with heritage foundation, leonard leo's people. 226 federal judges he put on the bench. that's 28% of the currently active federal judges on the bench are trump appointees. one out of ten of those nominees were rated unqualified. not qualified by the american
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bar association. eight of those ten were confirmed. this is literally a rebuke from his own people and from leonard leo's world. we have to point that out. while we think about that, as trump now faces potential criminal referral, we don't know what they're going to do, the january 6th committee, what does it tell you that they're rejecting everything, including the idea that pat cipollone, his former counsel, and pat philbin, could use executive privilege. they said nope, nope, republican judges have even said that. what do you make of donald trump's prospects given the courts are actually doing the real job? if he does face federal criminal referral? >> well, first, let me say i do not think there is any need for a criminal referral. the department of justice, number one, is already on the case. number two, they have the evidence or will have 100% of it because the committee says that they are releasing it to the public, so of course, the department of justice will have everything they have. and just because it could make it look political, i personally
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wouldn't advise them to issue a referral. it's just not necessary, and it could make it look political. in terms of what's happening for donald trump, all of the courts have said no to him. the supreme court has already said no, there is no such thing here. and so there is nowhere left for him to go. and the evidence is mounting. i don't believe that there is exculpatory evidence that we don't know about. that's the only thing that could change my opinion of whether there is an indictable offense, and right now, we're talking about the mar-a-lago document case. but there are other cases that could equally be indicted. just limiting it to mar-a-lago, the facts that we know are so clear. he retained documents. he lied about them. he covered it up. he didn't return them when they knew he had them. they asked for them nicely. they subpoenaed them. then they had to do the search.
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and he had already filed an affidavit saying there is nothing else here. well, within a few hours, the department found, the fbi was able to uncover more than 100 more classified documents. documents that pose a severe risk to our national security if they are ever revealed. and they were kept in an insecure location. so of course there was a risk. >> real quick, what's your pin? before we go. >> it's justice. it's lady justice. standing with a law book, so it seems to me we're heading toward some just accountability for the former president. >> we shall see. jill wine banks, thank you, as always. >> all right, guys, who won the week is still ahead. first, biden extend his winning streak with a deal to avert a railroad strike, as republicans begin to whine outloud about his mounting successes. that is next. stay with us.
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remedies, which means lower prices for furniture, cars, and electronics. gas prices also keep falling and could drop below $3 a gallon by christmas. earlier today, president biden signed a bill to avert a freight rail strike that he said could have plunged the u.s. into a catastrophic recession. house democrats had sent the senate legislation that would add seven days of paid sick leave to the deal. but every republican except for six plus one democrat, joe manchin, of course, voted against it. this is where i'll remind you members of congress have no limit on sick days or time off, so they're good. sorry, train workers. president biden vowed to keep fighting for sick leave for rail workers. under biden, the united states has created 10 million jobs, five times as many as the last three republican presidents combined. under biden, the unemployment rate for hispanics hit an all time low. biden's record is so strong, republicans are finally sick of
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all that winning. newt gingrich, who probably did more to break politics than any other politician, helping to bring about the current republican hellscape, wrote an entire column about how republicans need to keep underestimated the president who just keeps winning. joining me, deanoge obeidallah, and tim, i want to start on this. this rail deal, i think, is an example, we'll put up a little bit of what's in it, is an example of people really not understanding, joe biden has been doing politics since he was 29 years old. he was in the senate for a lifetime. this guy knows what he's doing. so why do you suppose it's some sort of news flash he actually knows how to president? he's been a politician forever? >> well, two things are happening here i think on the right. one is they're stuck in their own hermetically sealed echo chamber where if you turn on fox, if you listen to any conservative media, on digital media or radio, all you hear is
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joe biden is senile, and the squad is running the show, and joe biden can't do anything. and so you start to believe your own bs after a while. and i think that that hurt the republicans going into the midterms. and another thing that has happened and they haven't figured out a good countermessage on some of these bread and butter economic issues like what joe biden did right here. look, for example. as you said, there were six republicans in the senate, only three in the house that voted for this. the republicans i thought were pivoting to becoming more of the working class party, the working man's party, middle america's party, but only nine republicans in all of congress said they would go along with the deal that would give seven measly days of paid sick leave to actual rail workers? just, they're lost. it's like, well, on the one hand, they're still in their old tea party wall street world. on the other hand, we're trying to be the working class party. they kind of don't know how to do that. meanwhile, joe biden has been navigating these issues for half a century and knows very much how to navigate them.
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>> he's like like joe american. he understands politics and gets how to get things done. to the point, dean, where joe biden and i would say probably with jim clyburn who is still in leadership, they have orchestrated a coup against the whole system in which they create who is going to be president. putting south carolina first is a huge move. it's going to make black voters more empowered, which they should. it's going to dissempower iowa, and they're going to put other states moving forward like nevada and michigan. and it also kind of helps out if anybody tried to primary biden, south carolina was his secret sauce, so good luck with that. it's the use of political power. he understands that, too. >> and i'm getting that sense, joy, that he has that. could i just say, joe biden got a 24% raise with the rail ward railroad workers.
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and here, some people say 24% raise with the rail workers. i wrote an article begging for my home state of new jersey to be the first state. if you want to test people, let's see what the jurors expressions were, what are you looking at, considering the -- get off my log. but south carolina mixed. this, finally, people of color are gonna be represented the way they should in our party. you know, black voters are the key component of the democratic base, plus others, but that is the core. so, i think south carolina is great. i think michigan makes it. nevada, with that latino vote, very important. but, jersey, we gave you bruce bruce springsteen. we gave you queen latifah. give us the first primaries. >> talk to biden about it. i'm gonna stay with you for a second, dean. because some people don't know what they're doing. elon musk, okay? he takes kanye off, but he puts the not-so-back on. you have to know this guy. he is a not ceased not see, he's a guy who was ahead of the
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daily stormer. but don't doesn't owe any money? >> you know he owes four point $1 million because i've got a judgment against him because the 2017, he fabricated tweets to say that i was involved in terrorism, because i wrote an article denouncing donald trump for not denouncing white supremacy. and that was before charles's town. despite the daily storm which is named after hitler's favorite publication called hailstorm or fabricated these tweets and said go confront him. so, i've got a ton of death threats. and i sued him in federal court. i won $4 million. i was never gonna get the money. the money is to be given to organizations that fight bigotry. but if you are watching, i want my money, and i want it plus interest. so, i'll give it to organizations that fight antisemitism, anti racism, anti-lgbt, anti-muslim hate, and the idea that elon musk would help normalize a nazi shows you elon musk is no friend of the united states of america. and i say, i gave it a lot of talk, i don't believe elon musk is fidel.
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he's amplifying the visions, and it's very dangerous. >> it's trying to make a apartheid again. he thinks what that's what maga means apparently. on the other side, tim miller, you've got the governor of florida with the media has already crowned as the next king of the republican party, he passed this don't say gay bill that is so frightening to school systems, that one of them banned the hanukkah discussion. because they were not so sure of talking about hanukkah violates the christian nationalist rules that they live under now in schools. they had to rescind it because it got so much outrage when it got out. but that's how bad this don't say gay bill is. more than don't say hanukkah bill. at the time when we're talking about rampant antisemitism, well done, desantis. >> for starters, i went to second with that nazi, he needs to pay up. so, for doing these lies, $4 million. if you can be on twitter, he can pay your debts, brother. as for the don't say gay bill, i remember this when it was signed in the day.
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the bill, despite being unnecessarily cruel, despite being gross, despite solving no real problems, right? the main flaw that it was purposely vague. it was like, meant to create situations like this one, right? where, you know, i kind of had these broad strokes and the way that it was written. you know, so teachers, you know, and school systems would not be sure whether they would violate it. and so, out of precaution, some people would say, oh, we're not gonna have this book in the library that allude to gaping when. we're not gonna do this math problem that has two moms as the example of the math problem, because -- and so, while the bill might not specifically said something like, oh, don't mention hanukkah. this happens, right, when you have these over flawed discriminatory bills, these are the kinds of results that you get. >> it's meant to chill speech. it's working as intended. dean and tim are sticking around for who on the week. so, don't go anywhere. stay right there. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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you know what that means? it's time to play our favorite game. oh, yes, who won the week? back with me, dean obeidallah and tim miller. dean obeidallah, who won the week? >> honestly, you can't even debate it. it's hakeem jeffries. he came from brooklyn. he went to public school with the nyu. and then the state assembly. and now he made history this week as the first black leader in either political party's caucus and in 2025, he will be the first black speaker of the house and the history of the united states of america. so, hakeem jeffries and my view won the week. >> he did. and i love the fact that two of the most powerful men, black men in american history, where named barack and who came. deal with that, white nationalists. tim miller, tell me, in your view, who won the week? >> not a bad pick. one of the other side of the hill, though, chuck schumer codified the repeal of toma,
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got the call of his daughter and his wife to give him the news. and then, it's on pace. it looks like if things go as planned next tuesday, to even gaining a seat in the senate when everybody thought he is gonna lose this gavel to mitch mcconnell, good week, chuck schumer. >> and you know what, we don't get to say that very often. good week, chuck schumer. excellent. we don't get to say that often. all right, my pick for who won the week is not a political figure. it is a lebron james, king james, he won the week this week because he called out the media for their hypocrisy and asking him about everything and anything else, from college cabernet, to kyrie, but not asking about jerry jones. jerry jones was in a photo being against and being one of the people who was standing against integration. he has gotten a whole mass from the media, including the sports media, as has brett favre. same bridge that you've given to kanye and the rest. that's my opinion, and they agree with. me dean obeidallah and tim miller, thank you both very much. have a great weekend. that's tonight reidout's. i'll
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