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that wraps it up for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back in the church more 2 pm eastern, simone starts right. now greetings, you are watching simone. the air just three days from very critical runoff election for the united states senate in georgia. the historic turnout in early voting has wrapped up, no more early voting now okay? senator raphael warnock and child herschel walker are making their final cases ahead of tuesday's election. we are looking at the latest polls, turn out and a strategy and this very competitive race. and the former president trump has had a rough week. and a major setback in appeals court slapped on the special master review of mar-a-lago documents. that air six community held a meeting friday with a criminal referrals for trump and others. and not to mention the oakland backlash over his antisemitic white supremacist dinner. and we are digging into all of it. plus in today's simone
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spotlight actress google and macabre is here we may know her they knew apple tv+ show surface. the morning show or marbles low-key. i mean the list goes on. we are going to get into her latest projects plus her work as a un, goodwill ambassador. i am simone sanders townsend and i have something to say. we have a lot to talk about today folks including my least favorite subject, i'm talking about former president donald trump. the drama just never ends. but first, let's talk about georgia. it is the minus three days until america knows whether the senate majority expands to democrats, solidifying president biden's chances of passing his agenda through the senate or if republicans lock in another seat to make it
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tougher for the administration to get anything done. early voting in the georgia senate runoff between democratic incumbent senator raphael warnock and republican challenger, herschel walker is officially closed. and more than 1.8 million people cast ballots, high turnout in key counties, it does bode well for warnock but this race is far from over yale. a new cnn poll out and it found that the democratic incumbent narrowly leads walker. 52% to 48%. and that is within the margin of error of 3.8 percentage points. reverend warnock also enjoys a favorable rating among 50% of voters compared to only 39% for herschel locker. former president barack obama, the closer, we came to the peach day once again, joining reverend warnock at a recent atlanta rally to rate walker over the calls. take a listen. >> 51 is better than 50 because that means reverend warnock will keep representing you in
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washington. that is the best reason. that is a. that's the number one reason. he was what if i would get to that. combined reverend, you know i have your back. in case you are wondering by the way, mr. walker decided he wanted to be a werewolf. which is great as far as i'm concerned, he can be anything that he wants to be. except for a united states senator. but >> you know, this is not an snl skit, all that israel. and earlier this week, herschel walker while he began holding events again after five days off the campaign trail. yesterday, he appeared in houston county which he won by 11 points in november. reverend warnock continued to hit the trail speaking at a labor in atlanta. take a listen. >> if you stagnant me for three more days, i will stand up for you for six more years. i will stand up for workers.
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i will stand up for a livable wage. i will stand up for essential benefits and i will stand up for the pro-act if you stand up for me for three more days, it's got this thing done. god bless you. >> reverend warnock taken a page out of his preachers playbook so what exactly is the strategy to get reverend warnock over the finish line? i recently sat down with georgia, democratic party chair congresswoman nikki met williams. here's what she had to say. >> so mtg we have been on the doors, we have 19 offices across the state. more than 900 paid staffers on the ground and that does not count all of the volunteers who are knocking doors, making phone calls because we understand that we play by the republican rules and 2021 and won the senate runoff. and then they change the rules we have a more compressed time period to get our voters back out but we know the impacts of direct voter contact. we are taking our message back
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to voters, we know that there is only one choice in this election, georgians deserve someone with a competence and character to lead our state and there is only one choice in this election and that is my senator, reverend raphael warnock. >> you know, there are other things that play in this runoff election, particularly i'm thinking about the georgia supreme court and the recent ruling about your state abortion ban in six weeks. it is now back into effect. you were once the vice president, public positive -- i want to play free what senator warnock had to say about abortion restrictions and the recent campaign event but >> when you are looking at something as frustrating as waking up one morning and women discovering one summer morning. that the supreme court is taking away a core constitutional protection and
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you recognize how important it is for us to stand up and vote. >> is this really going to affect voter turnout? i'm >> you know some of what we saw in the november election, not just in georgia but across the country, this was a motivating factor for voters. i think that up being the number to issue for voters and honestly, in georgia the only issue that herschel walker has been clear on. he has wobble on everything else but he has been very clear that he supports a national ban on abortion. and he thinks there should be zero exceptions in the cases of rape, incest or even the save the life of the mother. so we are making sure that we take this method to the voters that they understand the decision that they have to make when they show up to vote with the runoff election. >> you know what strikes me that voters say to understand that these type of rulings in georgia and across the country, the lawmakers are literally in your doctor's office with you.
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as actually having the final say. there is bipartisan support among voters regarding abortion rights. in our country, bipartisan support among voters in georgia and many places. your former state senator, do you think there is any momentum to rethink this ban through legislation and the georgia state legislator? >> some, and when the bills passed in the state senate i was actually there when it passed the general assembly. it only passed by one vote in the state house. and we have gained seats in the legislature but what we know is at the end of the day, the legal back and forth over georgia's abortion ban, and underscores that urgency and the need to elect the u.s. senator who will fight to protect abortion rights at the federal level. that is what we have to make sure that we show up and reelect our senator reverend roy file warnock. >> before we go congresswoman, i don't think we can talk about georgia without talking about voter suppression. this early turnout as historic but what is your response to proponents of georgia's 2021
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election law who say that this high turnout is evidence, and voter suppression is not the issue. >> so mom we saw just last week the republican party in georgia swaying to deny georgians the right to vote on a saturday in this runoff election. the democratic party along with senator warnock's team, we won that lawsuit. and republicans appealed. they have appealed the lawsuit, it went to the supreme court where all justices appointed by republicans unanimously sided with the voters and gave voters access to saturday voting. republicans in the state continued to try and make it harder for georgians to vote but georgians are showing up in spite of and record numbers. we will continue doing that again on election night on tuesday, december six so that we can send senator warnock back to the u.s. senate fighting for all georgians. >> congresswoman, thank you matt williams also chair of the georgia democratic party, thank you very, very much. >> thank you symone. >> now here to discuss with me is téa mitchell, she is a
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washington correspondent for the atlanta journal-constitution. i mean she is also, hear a democratic strategist and our good friend sure michael singleton is a republican strategist and host a bigger than politics on sirius xm. sure -- i don't know which michael is right now but he is somebody with inside honey and that is why he is still. i'm michelle, i will start with you. there is a lot of talk about early turnout in georgia. you. it's important for people to know the facts and the facts are that the top five counties when it comes to percentage of early voting turnout were green, towns, ray bon, a colony, and pulaski. these are less popular counties in the core atlanta areas that are crucial for warnock victory. these counties are walker strongholds. i think that's a get that republican enthusiasm. it's on the screen. do you think that senator warnock should be concerned? >> i think senator warnock's team is playing this rightfully so. they recognize that a lot of
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his, a lot of his supporters have turned up but he also strongly recognizes that a lot of herschel walker supporters have turned out. the republican party has put so much money in this, race they have advance in terms of elevating herschel walker in knowing that this is their guy. the important that this means for republicans and herschel locker, even though we saw october surprise after october surprise into november, now december. none of that has quite frankly shaken republicans who want to come out and support this man. it doesn't matter how many allegations of abuse, it doesn't matter you know his arguments about werewolves, versus anything else. this guy is not someone who should even be in the senate race. definitely not competitive but thus far, what we have seen is that republicans are turning out. and that i think is something that they want to campaign is on high alert for, also telling people do not pay tension to the polls, get out and vote. get out and vote. it's about the race. >> shermichael i one if you can respond to unleash as combat there and also this notion there that, all of this should
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not be a close race. i know a lot of people feel that way but the reality is that it is a close race because of the realities on the ground. i think people want to believe george's truly purple but it is a recovering right place as a like to say. what are the prospects of these numbers taken out on election day? are republicans going to turn out for herschel walker, given that camp is not on the ballot? that the senate is not in the balance here? >> let's amount i think if you look at the elections from the midterms, you saw a significant percent of what we call crossover voters are split voters. this is the people who voted for, count the republicans have been decided for senator warnock and democrat. i have not seen any trends that would lead me to believe that that standard is going to change, somehow during the special election. it ultimately becomes which of the two candidates can turn out a significant amount of their original voters. also the split photos which i
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think will come down to in order to cross the finish line. if you look at the numbers and the cross tabs for midterms, it would appear that senator warnock will indeed have the advantage going into this. ultimately, i personally believe at least looking at the numbers, he will probably be able to win by a slim margin but a win is a win. significant amara publican voters in georgia who are looking at herschel walker's and thinking that this guy is not represent the type of senator that i want to represent. msnbc i had a clip i believe took a few days over republican and said we are not all maga. i am voting for senator warnock. and i think there are significant enough of those voters out there who will cast their votes for senator warnock who ultimately lead to a victory for him. >> we'll see at you have been covering this from every single angle inside. you actually comb through both senator warnock's recent speeches and herschel walker's. you fact-check them, what are some of the patterns that you spot it? what do we need to know?
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what are we missing? >> so it's interesting you know, on the campaign trail, both of them tend to give the same speech but very few variations. so yes i took one of their each of their recent speeches, went through and pick fact-checks. what i found was fined senator warnock as the incumbent needs to talk a lot more about policy and what he is done and how he has walked work across the aisle with republicans. of course his position on things like abortion, and health care. whereas what you listen to herschel walker speak, he doesn't talk a lot about what he would like to do. he does talk a lot about what raphael warnock has done in ways that either lack context or are misleading about senator warnock's record. so a lot of talk about warnock but not always factually. >> well you know if you have to throw the people down to build
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yourself up, it's a red flag as a like to say. i want to shift gears and talk about yay. that is the artist formerly known as kanye west. i wanna talk about his interview with far-right conspiracy theorist, alex jones. after repeatedly praising adolf hitler and denying the holocaust, even when alex jones is basically like oh, not hitler. yay double down, triple donna fuel and he then tweeted a logo of a swastika i was blended into the star of david. this is a shocking image, so shocking that elon musk said too much for me and it resulted in the primary suspension of his twitter account. and then prompted this post from president biden. we will put it up on the screen. president biden writes i just want to make a few things clear. the holocaust happened, hitler was a demonic figure. and instead of giving it a platform, our political leader should be calling out and rejecting antisemitism wherever it hides. silence is complicity. donald trump surprisingly has yet to condemn these hateful
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comments and this is despite hosting kanye west, yay for dinner before thanksgiving. and michelle, the remarks were apparent, they were finally antisemitic. there are lots of people who have yet to speak out on this including donald trump. why do you think they are still silent? >> because quite frankly, a lot of people within the maga when of this party except antisemitism. they accepted it from the white house when former president trump unleashed at multiple times. they accepted it when he said that he essentially valued the jewish people in israel a lot more than the jewish people in america. this is a guy who hides a really strong hold on the republican party and i don't want to call him out. they want to call him out for his engagement with kanye west previously. they don't want to call him out that the fact a lot of people within the right actually believed an appropriate patch waiting at the summit system. >> i want to get your michael in here. shermichael, your thoughts very quickly. >> i mean look i think what mitch mcconnell said is right. republican party should not be
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a place for antisemitism and needs to call it. out i think it's also why. >> he won't say trump, he won't even say trump. >> they do not want trump to announce because of this reason. yes this stuff may be okay with some republican simone but when it comes to national elections, as we saw before, you need suburban voters. you need moderate republican voters and those people are saying wait a minute here, i don't believe in this stuff. i don't subscribe to this. i don't want to identify with the party that seems to be at least possibly okay with it. >> that's okay, we will drop the mic there. tim, michelle and michelle krause and shermichael singleton, thank you all very much for kicking us off today. next, not my legal panel is joining me to talk about donald trump's very terrible, horrible, no good, very bad legal week. plus, what other january 6th if and then should be thinking now that the head of the oath keepers was found guilty of seditious conspiracy. we will get into it but first, my colleague richard louis is here y'all with today's other top news stories. richard, the street thought i was not gonna make it back for
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the show from the commencement but i am here. >> you made, so glad to see it's a mom. get the seat as well. texas authorities by the way arresting a fedex driver accused of kidnapping and killing the seven year old girl you see here. authorities found her body yesterday, 11 miles from her home, northwest of dallas. she vanished two days earlier. the 31-year-old suspect faces murder and kidnapping charges. the sheriff saying the suspect confessed. president biden met with britain's prince william and boston on friday. the first meeting since the funeral of queen elizabeth. the crown prince also paid a visit to jfk library. and caroline kennedy and her children. william is following his father's footsteps, king charles iii in champion and byron mental causes. and that the lens, knocked out the u.s. from the world cup. 3 to 1 this morning. that's your favorite in this, scoring twice in the first half. team usa was hoping to get past the round of 16 for the first time since 2002.
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former president donald trump on the legal front. we are about to get into it but first conspiring to overthrow, put down or to destroy by force the government of the united states of america. that is seditious conspiracy under u.s. law and on tuesday, a jury found that stewart
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rhodes, founder of the far-right oath keepers militia is guilty of it. the government laid out evidence of our roads along with other oath keepers coordinated for weeks on what ultimately became a plan to disrupt the peaceful transition of power on january six. to call this conviction a big deal is an understatement, y'all this is huge. this is america's first successful seditious conspiracy conviction and nearly 30 years. and the penalty for roads? could be up to two decades in prison. joining me now to discuss are some experts, msnbc contributor charlie savage is here. the washington post bonded for the new york times and author of power wars, relentless rise of presidential authorities and secrecy. i miss nbc legal analyst grant kershner is also here. our former federal prosecutor and has been watching that seditious conspiracy trial like a hawk. he is our expert along with charlie. charlie i will start with you. charlie, speaks of the nature of this historic conviction in my words? do i have that right?
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is it in fact historic? >> it's extremely rare for the shots to be brought at all. it's a big achievement for the justice department. they were able to convince the jury to convict two of the five defendants of conspiracy. the trigger prosecutors who are looking at two more such trials in the near future and other oath keepers groups and in the proud boys group of defendants. some vote of confidence. on the other hand, cannot be overlooked that three of the defendants in this trial were acquitted of seditious conspiracy. there were people who are lower ranking and not the leaders of the group. the next role of oath keepers is also a cluster of people who were not leaders at the level of stewart rhodes. f that jury was not convinced of these three defendants, that's the reason for prosecutors to have some degree of caution going to the next trial or doubt. and then the other trial is coming up and seditious conspiracy, the proud boys and that does include pop leaders
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of black robe that sets the model here and on the other hand, they are not accused of stashing weapons, a bag depot for pence that there were gonna have ready to bring into washington just across the river in virginia, was him to be the central part of the oath keepers conspiracy. at least as possible -- they are accused of using ordinary people in the crowds as wobble, lower ranking people as their tool of insurrection. and so that's also not quite the same thing as this trial even though the charges is the same. remains to be seen and how a jury will react to that, simone. >> so glad, you noted the prosecutors did not invoke trump during the trial at all and what i am wondering if you thought that was a smart strategy, and then to, what does that tell us or doesn't tell us anything about how you know the justice department could involve trump in this particular case? so the question of his involvement in january six. and there will be any charges
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brought there. >> as my decision by the prosecutors to try and keep politics, to try and keep donald trump's name out of the courtroom as best as they could. that defendants are not check their politics at the door, now drag the right into the courtroom entered into the jury box. when they testified for example, the defendant elmer stewart rhodes, head of the oath keepers said the election, presidential election was unconstitutional. ladies and gentlemen, i am a constitutional expert. said that this part lawyer. he was pretty abrasive and off putting. he threw the big lie out there so i think one of the takeaways is that the jury rejected the big lie because that's what really all of these defendants and one form or another was offering the jury. and charlie is absolutely, right only the two lead defendants, elmer stewart rhodes head of the oath keepers and one of his top lieutenants, kelly meggs who were convicted of that top charge. seditious conspiracy but all five of them were convicted of serious, federal felony targets. >> i do not get off scot-free.
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>> now they are all going to prison, this one emboldened federal prosecutors as they move to the next seditious conspiracy trial against the oath keepers. and then one against the proud boys and here is one of the biggest takeaways simone. the fact that all five of these defendants were convicted are going to prison. i predict every other defendant who is pending trial right now a sock into their lawyer. they're saying maybe we should begin to negotiate our own pleas with cooperation. >> all right, we'll be watching that. i want to get you all to weigh in on the mar-a-lago documents case. a three panel for the 11th circuit court of appeals, throughout judge aileen cannon thrilling for special masters to review the materials which really i think snuff to delay tactic from donald trump's legal team. political called the unsigned ruling an embarrassing rebuke of judge aileen cannon. i want to pick this on the screen for folks. it's as part of it reads the law is clear, we cannot write a rule that allows and the subject of a search warrant to
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block government investigations. after the execution of the warrant. nor can we write a rule that allows on the former presidents to do so. charlie, if you could just very quickly tell me how this could affect the overall case especially in terms of the timeline? now that there is no special master? >> will it take the handcuffs off the justice department. they know of access to the full trove of evidence which was, has been withheld from them since taj judge cannon impose that and back in the beginning of september. they have all the other documents now that can go through them, they can ask people questions about them. what was being held with the classified documents, the heart of the investigation. that could help answer questions like who had access to this? i knew was up and move it around. they also help for the last few days has been more of trump's aides who have some line of sight on to the documents. they get called before a grand jury to be asked questions about their interactions with
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the former president about that matter, what they know and what they saw. and what they did until this investigation seems to be moving along had of risk clip now. a removal of this process. you are exactly right. >> it's not over, really delaying it. >> plan, you add one word to describe, we would call it? >> the investigation? dangerous to donald trump. >> dangerous to donald trump, all right glenn kirschner, charlie savage, thank you both very much. up next, michael steele joins me to talk about why his party still cannot seem to quit donald trump or their culture war playbook. let's call it a republican autopsy. that is next. that is next with a multi-flex midgate for extra storage. and an available 400 miles of range on a full charge. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet kevin, where are you?! kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here!
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has come and gone with republicans fumbling the opportunity to win back full control of the united states house of representatives. now congress as a whole i might argue. now it is time for them to face why that happen and where they go from here. now the wide tummy is clear folks. it's a result of donald trump's toxic presence, combined with republicans lack of a plan for the issues facing the american people because they are so focused on owning the liberals. whatever that means, i still don't know. to the republican party apparatus, the culture wars, they are not a distraction. they are in fact the playbook designed to rally up a part of the base that they cannot afford to alienate.
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now that we are clear on that, on friday, elon musk re-tweeted the quote unquote twitter files, a collection of documents that detail how the social media platform supposedly buried a story about a ukrainian energy company paying money to the president son, hunter biden. first of all, i just have to say that this whole thing is ridiculous and it's not true. but with me now to weigh in as a former chair of the republican national committee, michael steele himself. also an msnbc political analyst. mister chairman, you and i have started this conversation on morning the other day, i want to continue it. let's talk about elon musk efforts to draw tension to hunter biden's laptop once again. and donald trump's really absurd response on his social media platform. the way the president responded to basically say twitter's actions were not ignored the constitution and undoing the results of the 2020 election but to be clear, neither of those things are possible. what are your thoughts on all of this tom foolery over the last 24 hours? >> i guess with musk is to
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prove that, hey i am the right kind of republican meaning i am a trump republican, i am an election denying republican. i don't know any republican he is, i've been probably next year he will be an independent or a democrat depending on how the wind blows. but the reality of it is that putting those things back on the platform, it just a position with the argument that he is all about free speech. really undermines some of the essential tenets of free speech is that it is about the freedom of you to say things but not at the harm or expense of someone else. and so we protect perpetuating lies and so forth. you really kind of laughing in the face of this idea of what the platform he claims is supposed to be. for the party, they love it. i mean they have the world, one of the world's richest man helping them ferment that kind of distrust of the system and
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disinformation where their fingerprints don't necessarily have to be on it. >> like a little plausible deniability if you will. >> elon's that it. >> exactly, it wasn't me it was elon. okay so now you have the republican party earlier this week announcing yet another autopsy after the midterm losses. not the first autopsy, there was one i believe in 2012. and 2012. what is your take on that particular effort and do you ever think that the party will actually move away from this extremism and the tenets of the culture wars? >> they move away from the extremism in the tenants of the culture war when it does not pay anymore. it doesn't pay the dividends of votes, it doesn't pay the dividends of cash. so right now, it pays. the basis of continually doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on that. that will be in play. the autopsy, well okay. yeah you know they use a lot of formaldehyde in autopsies so
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you know the reality of it is that you get what you get. it is a corpse. and the fact that the last one went nowhere because they allow donald trump to essentially crap all over it when he came down and announced his run for the presidency by declaring mexicans as rapists and murderers. and the face of that autopsy report that today, we want to reach out to hispanics. i don't know where they hope to go with this. you don't need to get people in a room simone to tell you what happened in 2018. we saw what happened. 18, 20 or 22. you don't need to have a meeting on that, it's obvious and this is again one of the things that the party is known to do and that, is let's all regroup and we will put out a white paper and we vote just get the folks to believe something new about us. their actions belie all of that.
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>> it is just quite concerning and i guess do you feel hopeful at all? i know we have to go but do you feel hopeful at all that sometime in our lifetime -- no. >> not in our generation of the party. those of us who are still in it, the liz cheney, adam kinzinger 's, we are fighting the hole in the ground that we have as best we can. so that whatever comes after that, after this you have something to build off of. what the reagan ask, lincoln ask tenets. but with this leadership, that is feckless and committed to trump and trump himself, no. >> well i think we need to strong political parties in this country, i will just hold out hope that it happened sooner than later. michael steele, i'm very grateful for you, thank you my friend. >> good to be with you simone. >> thank you. now congress and president biden if at a week as well. they've waited a racetrack that could've devastated the
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personal day for workers. but no paid sick time. if we all workers don't go to work, america's kids will not get shipped. that sounds like an essential worker to me. don't they deserve the dignity of the paid sick time they so clearly have earned? here is what president biden had to say about the bill. >> i know this bill doesn't have paid sick leave. but these rail workers, and frankly every worker in america deserves it. but that fight isn't over. i didn't commit we were gonna stop this because we couldn't get it in this bill that we were gonna stop fighting for it. i have supported paid sick leave for a long time. i'm gonna continue that fight until we succeed. >> greg regan is the president of the transportation trades department of the afl-cio. thank you so much for being here is, craig. how does the union feel about congress imposing the deal that the rank and file basically rejected. basically forcing them back to work without making any changes on paid sick leave. >> yeah, obviously it is a shame every time he vote on
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your own contractors taken out of the workers hands. that is something that we as a labor movement fundamentally oppose. at the same time, however, there were four unions that did not accept this deal, eight of them however did ratify it. i think that at the end of the day there are a lot of good things in here despite the glaring omission of sick leave. >> okay, what you did say in a statement to end the real dispute. you said in part, this. the real industries unchecked corporate greed and bad faith bargaining efforts force this contract to run the full course of the railway labor act. manning at the doorstep of the biden administration and the united states congress. so here's my question for you, greg. why won't the rail companies provide that sick leave? i understand that there are other good things that made it into this bill that congress passed. but why do you think the companies are resistant? >> it is about their bottom line. they are not able to deny you sick leave if you are a worker and you need to take that time off to care for yourself or your family. i cannot reject that. they can, however, project your
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request on personal leave. and there is personal leave available. so for them it is about making sure that they can have the workforce there whenever they need it. and because of the fact that they furloughed so many people, a third of their workforce, 45,000 people in the last seven years. they need everybody year. that is what is creating such a bad morale in the entire industry. which created the need for sick leave during's contract. >> so how confident are you that the president will be visiting the paid leave proposal that he discussed? >> i am confident he will revisit it. because frankly we are not gonna let this fight go away. we are gonna use every available mechanism that we possibly can to bring this fight right to the real wood doorstep. whether it be legislation, whether it tive action. whether it is bringing them back to the table to talk about specific issues and hold him accountable on this specific issue. we are gonna keep this fight going. and we haven't stopped since this bill passed on thursday. we are going to be right back at it on monday. >> well, greg, we really appreciate your work.
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you know, my grandfather was a member of the union. i know the important work that you all are doing. thank you for your voice and thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. the simone spotlight, folks, is next. and i am so excited to be joined by google and buffet raw. she is an actress, she is a producer. and now a diplomat. we are gonna be talking about how she reached this moment. don't go anywhere. businesses nationwide are switching to verizon business internet. (woman) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything. from verizon. kevin, where are you?! kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays with chase freedom unlimited. you know i can't believe you lost another kevin. it's a holiday tradition! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ woah, surprised to see you here. how's your head? all good man.
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happened. >> we do know. >> no, we think we know. based on what we think happened. >> google mbatha-raw is here, thank you so much for joining us. i had the pleasure of seeing you last night, moderated a conversation. surface, as my understanding, has been renewed foresees into an apple tv plus. congrats, what was your reaction to the news, as a fan, i am excited to see what happens, honey, we need to know. >> i know. we just announced yesterday, as you said. but i actually have known for a while. so i've been having to keep it a secret. but it has been amazing to be here. i've been here with this show runner -- just to be able to share the news, finally, it's just so exciting. >> you are the star of the show. sophie, talk a little bit about that. this show is also your debut as an executive producer. it was the first time. so how do you juggle it. >> yeah, it has been amazing.
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i mean, the show is produced by reese witherspoon's company, hello sunshine. i got the company -- the morning show. it was really special to be invited back as executive producer and be a part of the project from such an early stage. >> you are not only an actress and now executive producer but you are also a diplomat as i like to say. you have jumped in. talk a little bit about your work as a goodwill un ambassador. what was your latest trick? >> yeah i just got back from the democratic republic of congo with unhcr, un refugee agency. it was an incredible trip. it was my first official trip as goodwill a master. i have made two trips previously to uganda and rwanda as a high-profile supporter. and it is just been a real privilege and a hugely eye-opening experience to be able to share and shed some light on the incredible work that they are doing.
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especially in terms of sexual and gender-based violence. the huge challenges they have right there right now. i think the needs are greater than ever. and you know, the repercussions of the war in ukraine. food shortages, fuel crisis, all of that is really happening and having rubble fact over there. >> i spoke with un ambassador, u.s. un ambassador to the united nations, -- and there is a lot of talk about, oh, maybe the un is outdated. i really think your work as a goodwill ambassador speaks to why it is so important. i don't really think realized the breadth of what the un does. and that is basically the point the ambassador made. what say you? >> yeah, i think, you know, for me, obviously i'm an actress first of all most. but i think what is wonderful is to be able to use my profile to be able to shine a spotlight on things that have fallen out of the headlines. and i think especially when it comes to refugees, you know, it
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can feel like such an overwhelming talk again there is a lot of challenges in the world for everyone right now. but i think for me it has been a real privilege to try to humanize those stories. take those personal and individual stories and try to bring them to a wider audience. >> you know, dina simone once said, it is an artist's duty to reflect the times. >> i love nina. >> yes! these times are tough. but it is also meaning we should use our platforms and our voices. >> exactly, exactly. it has been an incredible time to be able to do that. especially between jobs. and i think because i haven't been able to travel the last few years, no one has really been able to travel. >> the pandemic. >> to be able to make up for a bit of lost time and be able to visit the continent. beaten africa. drc, i also just came back from south africa on a more personal trip. and it has just been incredibly invigorating as well as shining a light on these subjects. you know, for me i also get a lot out of it as well it is
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incredibly rewarding. >> well, thank you for your voice, your time. gesture light. i will just say, you are just a joy, gugu. you are a good person, great things come to people who work for, and that applies to you. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you! and thank you all at home for watching, thank you for watching simone this saturday. i am symone sanders-townsend, you can catch me right here on msnbc weekends at 4 pm eastern and anytime over on the peacock arrive near opposites at the msnbc hub every monday and tuesday. and i have tomorrow on the show, former atlanta mayor andrew yang, joining me to talk about the upcoming georgia runoff. also a former un ambassador. and before i go i want to give a shout out to tennessee state universities class of 2022. it's morning i had the honor of giving today's commencement address. and i received an honorary plaque. go tigers, all right, thank you, dr. glover, politics nation with the great reverend al sharpton starts right after a short break, make sure you come
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