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. , that evening and welcome to politicsnation, tonight's lead, overtime. ♪ ♪ ♪ tonight in georgia, activists are focused on getting voters to the polls on tuesday. election day and the runoff between democrat and senator raphael warnock and his republican opponent herschel walker. early voting wrapped up yesterday, more than 1 million georgians have already cast their ballot, including strong turnout from many heavily black parts of the state. the last major midterm contests is playing out as the battle lines are being drawn for the next election cycle.

on friday, democrats moved a step closer to making south carolina the first primary state. i change that would dramatically lose the influence of the black vote in the 2024 race for the white house. republicans, meanwhile, are reckoning with their hatred in their ranks. as they scramble to explain why the party's only declared presidential candidate is sitting down the dinner with antisemites and white supremacists, at a time when bigotry and violence is growing viral online and spilling over into real life. we have a lot to cover tonight, let us get started. joining me now is democratic congresswoman carolyn bordeaux. of georgia. >> good to be here. >> congresswoman, thank you for joining us. your state, your state is the center of the political universe right now. so let us start there.

as the last major race of the midterms, the georgia senate runoff has been drawing a lot of an out of state money, in quite a few prominent politicians. former president barack obama was in atlanta on thursday to campaign for senator warnock. and poked a little fun herschel walker, take a listen. >> mister walker has been talking about issues that are of great importance to the people of georgia. like whether it is better to be a vampire or a werewolf. this is a debate that i must confess i was once had myself. [laughter] when i was seven. [laughter] [crowd chanting] then i grew up. >> the washington post reports that republicans are privately extremely concerned about walker's electability.

and former president donald trump's impact on this race. what are you hearing, congresswoman, from voters and activists in the final days of this extended campaign. >> well, first it is great to be here. it is so much fun to hear president obama speak. no one can put down a burn quite like he can. so it is always a lot of fun to hear what he has to say. we have just had an extraordinary week of early voting. and we have had really long lines, very patient, very determined voters in a lot of those counties. so that is very positive. of course, george, we do expect it to be a really close race. so everybody's chest, you know, working their hearts out to try to turn out the vote as we go on tuesday. >> now, georgia republicans have turned to newly reelected governor brian kemp hoping that his relative popularity and

strong political operation can improve herschel walker's chances in the runoff. -- during the general election. but he headed a slate of republicans that won virtually every other statewide office in georgia. let me ask you, what impact do you think, if any, governor kemp could have at this point? >> you know, i think, we will call the mainstream republicans. they are very very conservative. but they did break away from trump. they have a lot of concerns about walker. and they really have all along. we just saw the lieutenant governor, jeff duncan, he waited for an hour to vote. walk into the voting booth and then walk out without voting for walker. >> he said this publicly, he let him know that he just couldn't bring himself to vote for walker or for that matter warnock either. he is a staunch republican. but he said he couldn't bring himself to vote for walker.

>> yeah, we are seeing a lot of that. he is from portside county which is in my congressional district. so i know a lot of the people like that. in a number of counties. they are just republicans that don't believe in walker. and i just have a hard time thinking that they are going to turn out for him. and vote for him. >> now, as the composition of the next senate is being decided, the current said it this past week, landmark legislation protecting same-sex and interracial marriage. 12 republicans voted for the legislation. along with every democrat. but 36 voted no, the bill now goes to the house which passes a similar piece of legislation earlier this year. why is this issue so important, congresswoman? >> well we all know that after the dobbs decision, they really

stripped away choice for women. there has been some concern that the supreme court might also circle back and strip away the rights around marriage equality. so it is really important that we get some better legislation on the books so that we, you know, protect game marriage. and the wonderful community there. that those rights continue to be secured and protected for everyone. >> congresswoman, before i let you go, i am sure that you are aware that the problems of homeland security warned this week about the continuing threat to lgbtq, jewish, and immigrant communities from violent extremists in the united states. at the same time, new research finds hate speech has exploded on twitter since elon musk took over the flat form. and yet as we speak this weekend, musk seems fixated on

a two year old story about hunter biden's lap top, rather than the clear and present danger posed by the bigotry going viral on his social media network. at what point do you think regulators must step in if this volatile and potentially dangerous situation cannot be brought under control. >> well i agree, it is something congress is really gonna have to take a hard look at. as somebody who was, you know, hunkered down behind multiple locked doors on january 6th, i am very very aware and very sensitive to how social media can be used. it can be manipulated. to really whip people into a frenzy. and it is extremely dangerous. obviously we want to protect free speech. so we want to make sure we are being careful and measured about how we go about it. but i do think we need to take a really hard look at some of these social media platforms. and the hate speech that they are allowing to spread.

because it often does really translate into violence if you are not careful. >> all right, thank you for being with us, congresswoman carolyn bordeaux. joining me now is democratic congresswoman donald payne of new jersey, congressman, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having me, rev. >> now, let me go to you with this first, congressman. we just mentioned in our last segment that the dhs, the department of homeland security, wanting this week about threats to the lgbtq, jewish, migrant communities. a senior official told reporters that americans motivated by violent ideologies pose a, quote, persistent and lethal threat, and of quote. now, you currently serve on the homeland security committee. what is your reaction? >> well, rough, you know, i am not very surprised by it.

these people that spew hate and feel that way are not surprising that they would include, you know, the whole issue around african americans. but added in there. immigrants, lgbtq, and you know, our jewish brothers. they don't like anyone that is not to like them. so they hate everyone. so it's we really need to monitor this. but department of homeland security is up on this and expressing it. you know, at different points in time. over about ten years in congress. there was a very difficult situation in us getting homeland security to even look at the issue. and what the congress changing hands again in january, we need

to continue to elevate these situations and make sure that we don't let it be quelled by the majority coming in. because they won't. >> congressman, let me follow this up. use threat warnings come as the republican party is poised to take control of the house of representatives, which you alluded to. there seems to be a real question about where the gop stands on hate. your republican colleagues on the house judiciary but out this tweet back in october. praising kanye west, elon musk, and donald trump. and only took it down this thursday while all three individuals who are under scrutiny for their relationships to extreme people. do you think the leadership of this republican party, especially the likely incumbent speaker kevin mccarthy, will be willing to confront this very

dangerous issue in a responsible way? >> well that is a great question, very questionable, rev. up until this point, you know, the gop leader has, you know, quietly said things, you know. in a manner which was not forceful or believable in terms of condemning these actions. so i am very concerned about in the freedom caucus and the leadership now. and the people that are moving to the top that i've influence in the republican party. there are more people that espouse this hatred that are moving up in the leadership and it is very concerning. >> all right, let me switch gears a minute. yesterday the democratic national committee moved one step closer to an acting president biden's vision for

drastically overhauling the party's 2024 presidential primary calendar. the plan would make south carolina the first primary in the nation. and elections in states like nevada, michigan, and georgia, would be held earlier in the process. amplifying the votes voices of black voters as well as residents of urban and more suburban areas. what are your thoughts of these proposed changes. changes to the primary election calendar. >> i am delighted to see it happen, rev. you know, we know what happened in south carolina in the last presidential race, which really turned the tide for now president biden. so is a very influential primary that takes place in south carolina. so for it to be first and to have african americans in that

position of influence and power is a real great c chains and a shift in this nation. and i supported wholeheartedly. >> congressman, while i have you. as you currently chair the subcommittee on railroads, pipelines, and hazardous materials. and help write a bill signed yesterday by president biden, of running a rail workers strike that would have had a crippling effect on the u.s. economy. some real workers are saying that president biden, quote, turned his back by passing a law that forced system back to work without meeting some of their major demands, including seven days of paid sick leave. the house bill you rode included the leave, but the final senate version did not. do you think the criticism is fair, or should rail workers view this deal as a positive step forward?

>> well, i think that the president played the hand he was dealt. we could not afford a strike in this country of that magnitude. during the pandemic, we saw the supply chains across the world to be devastated. and to have a real strike of that magnitude would just sink us back into that situation. so there was really not much of a choice to do it. unfortunately, in my position of leadership, it came to me. and i stepped up and i had to agree to. i am a pro labor member of congress, 100 percent voting record for labor. but the families that would have been impacted by a strike of that magnitude was just too large to just ignore. so we stepped up and it but we

had to do. but i said, well, since we are legislating, i have some questions about, well, can't we legislate the sick time for them. and we worked it out and that resolution 1:19 passed the house, you know, raf, it doesn't make sense. these workers stayed on the job during the entire pandemic. everyone gets sick. everyone gets sick. and not to have that basic right, i brought it up on the floor with my republican colleagues the other day. i said, you mean to tell me that you don't want other workers to have what you benefit from? i, as a person, cannot do that. that would be unconscionable. and so we tried to fix it. but as usual, you know, all good things go over to the senate today. >> all right, representative, thank you for joining me. always good to have you. good to see you. i usually see amy use my annual

-- after stretched in your district -- in to see you. >> i will see you again. >> all right, after the break, kari lake goes from rising republican star to sore loser in arizona. i have got a wake up call for her and other would-be election deniers in this week's gotcha. but first, my colleague with today's top news stories. richie? >> brad, good saturday to you. a christmas parade planned for saturday in kentucky was canceled after authorities are seeing threats directed at protesters of an emmett till rally. and the same day -- abundance of caution, according to a statement. the panic on friday lifted the veil of secrecy on its latest defense mega project. it is the next generations dolph palmer called the b 21 writer. it is capable of delivering both conventional and nuclear weapons across the globe. six are already at various stages of assembly at a secret

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technical glitch we have to straighten out. but let me pick up. democrats and republicans both had victories to celebrate after this year's midterms. but the real winner of the 2022 election cycle may have been democracy itself. that is because even after several years of former president donald trump trying to undermine american's faith in their voting systems, midterm candidates accepted the results of their races and almost every case, even politicians who ran on platforms of denying the 2020 election. seeing satisfied that the counts were legitimate. the one notable exception was the race for governor in arizona. where republican kari lake is as still not conceded to democrat katie hobbs. the outcome is not entirely

surprising. lake was always reluctant to say that she would accept defeat. and when maga republicans began to tout her as a possible 2024 running mate for trump, maybe lake became too big to fail for the far-right. but the election and in the denialism which played out as tragedy for arizona in 2020 resulting in a protest and an expensive unnecessary audit. it came back as falls in 2022. the only county willing to resist certifying the results was a small rural plot of the state lake had one in the first place. just days after coaches county officials voted to hire the same lawyers who represented the cyber ninjas. even they had to accept reality, signing off on the results after the federal judge ordered them to do so.

nearly a month after election day, the only place where arizona's gubernatorial election results remain in doubt are in the fever swamps of truth social. where former president trump continues to call for a new election in between posts, feuding with ron desantis. defending his friendship with kanye west. it is too early to declare democracy completely immune to the threat of election denialism. but it is becoming clear, voters are tiring of the -- when it comes to republicans like former president trump and kari lake who continued to fan the flames of conspiracy theories. it is time that they realize they are playing with fire. and are likely to get burned. i gotcha. ♪

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go back to my political panel for their analysis of today's top stories. joining me is susan del percio, republican strategist and juanita tolliver at, democratic strategist. they are both msnbc contributors. when you, to let me go to you first. let me start with the new primary calendar being considered by the democratic national committee. which elevates south carolina

as the first state to hold a primary, followed by nevada and new hampshire of hugh days later. and then georgia and michigan before super tuesday. now president biden is pushing for problems, which would greatly amplify the voices of black voters's when it comes to picking a presidential nominee. so i want to get your thoughts on that. but i also want you to put on your strategist hat for a second and tell me whether this proposal also makes biden the prohibitive favorite should he decide to run for a second term. >> it definitely does help president biden a lot if he runs in 2024, because let's remember, south carolina revived its campaign in 2020 when it looked like always lost. he had four really in iowa and new hampshire. but to south carolina voters came through under the guidance of democratic jim -- clyburn are, right? the recalibration of this

calendar, i have to say, rev. it's about damn time. black and brown voters shouldn't have to wait so long in order to be able to weigh in on selecting who the democratic nominee is, considering they form the base of the democratic party. the data is there, the evidence is there. and of course, south carolina is much more diverse than the states of iowa, new hampshire, and honestly, i cannot wait to see how this recalibrate how other campaigns move in this primary season. where they make their advice, where they exhaustion actually talking to voters. having more campaigns on the ground early, south carolina, georgia, nevada, michigan. it will pay dividends, as well, in a general election for democrats. >> and it will shape a lot of the issues that sometimes are not dealt with until later in the campaign. susan, how will the gop respond in this one? will they also change their calendar? >> will they immediately said no, of course, because of democrats say up, republicans will say down. it is interesting, because

south carolina would be a very interesting state for republicans to start ten as well. >> i mean they have a republican state wide officeholders. they have lindsey graham, they have -- what are they afraid of? >> i couldn't agree with you more. that is why i think it is an interesting play for republicans, because it also does get a different type of republican. maybe one that would've played better in new hampshire or iowa then in south carolina. so i think it was ted cruz who did very well in south carolina in 2016. there is room for other candidates to make a move outside of trump, let's say. >> talking about trump, let me bring this to you, susan. and you can finish your thought. but since you mentioned trump earlier today, donald trump took to his social media site to call for a suspension of the

u.s. constitution, and his reinstallation as president. he actually said this. apparently over a story involving discussions twitter had regarding the veracity of a story about hunter biden's laptop during the 2020 elections. the issue is apparently chief concern this weekend for twitter's new owner, elon musk. it has been fixated on releasing files related to the incident, rather than on the avalanche of hate speech on his own platform. republicans in the house promising to investigate biden in the next session. but they also have been trying to put some distance between themselves and the former president after this very disappointing showing in the midterm. where she think all of the pieces hit. >> i think if this was the first two weeks of trump's election campaign, because he announced this two or three weeks ago, it has been a rough

two or three weeks. so who knows where the wheels are really gonna come off the rails. i mean, if this is done in three weeks, imagine how it's gonna look in three months. now, looking towards what republicans will do. i feel like lucy with the football a little bit here. because we have seen it happen. we have seen republicans say that i had enough, they have used those words. and then they come back. the differences what do their internal polling's show? because they are going to start seeing a break in that extremism that donald trump is no longer playing to 30, 35% of the base. i would argue that he is playing to 20% of the base. maybe even a little lower. but to have, that is who he is trying to cement in. that is going to offend a lot more just moderate mainstream republicans. juanita, in three days, the senate runoff between republican herschel walker and democratic incumbent senator raphael warnock will come to an end.

today, the two candidates are making their final pitches to voters ahead of tuesday's vote. warnock rallied with workers and union members earlier and walker attended a football watch party. early voting wrapped up yesterday with a record number of votes cast that, a total of nearly 2 million georgians voted this past week. are you feeling optimistic about senator warnock's chances? >> i am feeling optimistic based on these early vote numbers, which we know are clustered in democratic counties which we know feature more young voters, some of them did not even vote in november but turnout for this runoff. and we also know that senator warnock has the momentum here with the slate of surrogates who are on the drive, get out the vote efforts like former president obama, who we all know brought all of his swagger which voters in georgia love. we also know that herschel walker is struggling right, now he is struggling not only for fund raising and money and saying on airways, he is struggling when the lieutenant governor says he cannot bring

himself to vote for him. republicans held their nose and november and they are probably going to refuse to do that now when though analysis on the ballots, as pole hochul walker up. remember, he underperformed about 200 plus votes in november. i expect that margin to be realized now that it is just walker and warnock on the ballot. >> yes we know susan, i've been having all week right charles and a song the james brown covered called georgia on my wine. i have been really humming that song. what do you think the gop is going to come out of this and what does that mean to the gop? >> oh i think at this point, the writing is on the law for the gop. it's pretty clear as far as the train, juanita is right. momentum is on warnock side. people do not want to come out and vote for herschel walker. and i think the republicans are going to say well, we will take our lumps here but more importantly, i think one thing for republicans to consider was

one presidential candidate, the only one who has announced so far was not welcoming georgia. and we can buy special election. that is crazy when you think about what you are supposed to do to turn out the vote. donald trump is not welcome and i think republicans are trying to make that point clear when elections are at stake. >> let me load you for one minute susan. the january six committee is close to wrapping up its final report which is expected before christmas. we have heard reports that wyoming congresswoman, liz cheney has been pushing the focus on the actions of former president donald trump will democrats on the committee want to take a wider look at what happened that day. when you expecting from the report? what do you think its impact will be? >> well i think its strongest impact has already happen and that was the hearing. that is hearing from republicans what happen, now

what i think the democrats should stay focused on is releasing all of the data. all of these interviews because that will allow for stories and for researchers to continue into what happened in, even if they cannot do it in a select committee. it will be the presidents actions that take front and center stage, i think for the media that whole concept of the fraud, with raising money and that is one that really has been particularly interested and could that be a referral to the department of justice? >> i am out of time but i must go to a responds juanita because you will never forgive me. >> well i think susan is right, and i am expecting the doj to pick this up and run with it though. we know that there are still waiting on some of these transcripts that will be featured in the report when it comes up before christmas. i just need the doj to follow through just like they did was stewart rhodes, and i'm the prosecution and let's see that again for trump when he is threatening the constitution in realtime. >> juanita tolliver and susan

el presidio, thank you both for joining me. now to a new documentary premiering for the first time on msnbc not examines the rebellious life of one of america's most iconic figures. >> i thought that i had a message but people did not choose to listen to what i was saying. >> she was part of a movement that was considered a threat to the united states. >> she let the dark to the next generation. >> rosa parks, the famed activists who his refusal to yield her seat on a montgomery, alabama bus in 1955 was one of the pivotal, viral moments that made america aware of the movement. but the activism began long before that confrontation. the film, the rebellious life of rosa parks looks at her earlier life and how her work continued, long after she was

forced to get off of that bus. joining me now is yoruba written and she is the director of the rebellious life of rosa parks and jean field harris, author of the rebellious life of rosa parks. the basis for this film. yoruba and gina thank, you both for joining us tonight. now this film looks at an iconic activists remain committed to the struggle before and after her most famous -- her refusal to yield the seat to a white man on a montgomery bus boycott started after that. she would not yield her seat on a montgomery alabama city bus in compliance with the city's jim crow laws. it's a history that i know. well i met this proximity times, i spoke at two, or three funerals. but, yoruba acting here first and from you.

what compelled you to draw from the book and make this film about park's life? what was missing from the story as you heard it in the past? >> absolutely, well thank you for having us on reverend al. you know and my co director, i co-directed this film with joanna hamilton who contacted me after making contact with jane and reading her book. and she told me to you know check this book out that rosa parks a story had never been told. and a feature one documentary and that was immediately the first thing that was shocking. and i read the book and of course intrigued by the name, the rebellious life of mrs. rosa parks. i had never heard her name put in that no contact. when i read the book, i discovered like so many of us so much that i did not know

about mrs. parks's. everything from her lifelong militant politics, where the backlash that she received after her stance on the bus which was a boycott. i know she had her family had to leave for detroit. there was so much witness and the book that we thought was important to tell and to really understand who mrs. parks was. >> but angie and you wrote the book and i'm so glad because so many stories that i did not know, are i grew up, i was just born a year after or the year before she sat on the bus. i grew up with a lot of myths that after meeting and talking with, her people saying oh she was tired in the not want to move that day. she was an activist, she intended to do what she did and nothing to do what she was juste from work. always struck by is the extent

to which park story reduce her actions on that bus. the lack of context about our life, before and after that ride seems to be the result of careful deliberation. what is missing from our historical understanding of rosa parks and why has it been so committed in your opinion? >> when will thank you for that question and thank you for having us. i mean part of what the film is trying to tell and what my book sought to show it is that she has a lifetime of activism. a lifetime of courage, the title of the film is taken and the title of my book is taken from a quote from rosa parks. where she described herself as having a life history of being rebellious. and i think just darting there where we take it from one moment on the bus which is usually the way we honor messes

parks to a whole lifetime of courage. as you are saying reverend al, part of the way that we get the myth is that it's comfortable. it's easy, it's one day that you can change history and then you shine a light against injustice and then justice has changed. if you look at mrs. parks's whole life, you have to reckon with a much harder, much longer struggle. we also have to reckon with what her legacy actually asks of us. if we see here also protesting police brutality, if we see her also spending decades working on issues of voting rights, if we see here for decades talking about the end justices on the criminal legal system. if we see here for decades, talking about school segregation and the need for black history and every part of the curriculum. then her legacy asked something much harder of us than a statue then a day right?

and asked for a continued commitment to a full some notion of justice. >> before we lose you, both what would you say is the through line between the documentary and the battles rosa parks fought and the battles we are watching here in the present day? jeanne, you first. >> i will take a couple moments you see in the film. one moment, 1967, after the detroit uprising, part of what happened during the detroit uprising it's what congressman will call a police riot. basically police then extensive police brutality during the uprising, including the killing of three black teenagers. the cops are not indicted, the mainstream news sources stop following a story and so black power, young black player militants holed the peoples tribunal to tell the real story and they ask rosa parks to be on that jury. when we see rosa parks and 1967, on that peoples tribunal, we see a through line to today in terms of thinking about issues

around the criminal legal system. >> yoruba,? >> yes so many three lines, but maybe want to pound and what one. >> yes, i will try to less. them reparations, she thought for reparations you know with congressman connors and now that's an issue for contending with today. their criminal justice system, voting rights, all of these issues that are still you know at the forefront of what we are fighting for in the forefront of the black freedom struggle. she never was satisfied, she knew that the faye continued and that as i, think it could actually give us hope because she never stopped. and never stop the fight and never stop believing that we would achieve justice. and all of those issues. >> she never stopped, that is how i got to meet her and talk with her and i'm so glad that this documentary is coming on msnbc. yoruba, richard and jean,

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