polls. >> 51 is better than 50 because it means that senator warnock will keep representing you at washington. [crowd chanting] that's the best reason. that's the number one reason. he was wondering if i was going to get to that. come on, reverend, you know i got your back. in case you're wondering, by the way, mr. walker decided he wanted to be a -- which is great. as far as i am concerned, he can be anything he wants to be, except for a united states senator. >> joining me now are jonathan alter, msnbc contributor on substack and shermichael singleton, host of screen share on peacock.

good to have you both with us. jonathan, i will start with you, if raphael warnock pulls this off, talk about what this means for the senate? what is the difference between a 50 and 51 seat majority? -- before the senate runoff on tuesday. and president biden blocks the rail strike, but workers get left out in the cold. i'm ayman. let's get started! kevin mccarthy should be very afraid, he might be on the cusp of a humiliating defeat as he scrambles to secure that 218 votes needed to become how speaker next month. navigating a razor-thin majority the california republican can lose just a handful of votes and the no's

are standing up against him. mccarthy faces a mounting challenge from members of the freedom caucus, this is the pro trump faction that has several members going to vote for anyone but mccarthy. mccarthy for his part says that he is prepared to fight till the bitter end, telling reporters that he will not drop out if he loses the first vote, promising a floor fight. meaning the house can have its first multi ballot speaker election in -- . congressman frederik went for two days and then rounds of votes he ordered to be reelected speaker of the house. it is in stark contrast to the smoothness of the transition of the other side. the one taking place in leadership for house democrats, this week democrats alerted their new leadership team without a hitch. congressman of new york is now the first to lead the congressional caucus. catherine clark is the new web, and aguilar is the new conference chair.

he's the highest ranking latino ever in the house. congressman jeffrey is just after that historic vote, thanking his predecessors. >> on the collective, broad, shoulders. build upon the incredible work that they have done, excited about the opportunities to advance the wall for every day americans, as we move forward into our future. but >> all right, let's bring into the conversation, democratic congresswoman bennett, she formally nominated jeffries to be a democratic leader. congresswoman, thank you for your time. let's start with your party's new leadership. tell us why you believe that congressman jeffries is the man for the hour, for the job, and what do you think both congresswoman clark and congresswoman aguilar will respect -- >> thank you amen. i have to say it was quite an honor to be able to nominate

hayden jeffrey, someone who got to know since the time in congress, he is a defender of democracy and he is a master for -- and he's a compassionate champion for the people, he left in 2018 on the messaging. he's led the caucus as a chaired, through the dockets of time. through a pandemic. through the january 6th insurrection, and i know that he is going to bring us back stronger than ever in the majority, so i think that he is the man that is going to lead us, and i was proud to be able to nominate him, and what followed of course, catherine clark. who when i think about her, and i think about what she has that as a woman who has reached out to me and many of the members of congress has come to my district and, just the historic nature and generational change. and of course aguilar who is the highest ranking latino now. a chair of the caucus. i should say the incoming chair

of the hispanic congress. i can say i can see pete there. i can see him at the leadership table, we have to continue to make sure that we are supporting people who look like america and bring a perspective like this new leadership does. >> it is not a surprise that the right has already started attacking congressman jeffries here, here's what mitch mcconnell said on the senate floor. take a listen. >> the newly elected incoming leader, house democrats, is up past election denier. who basically said the 2016 election was quote, illegitimate. and suggested that we had a quote, fake presidents. he has also -- on our independent judiciary. and said the justices that he didn't like, quote, zero legitimacy. unfortunately, when it comes to attacking our independent

judiciary, the democrat's new leader isn't an outlier. these are representative samples. >> so we saw how republicans targeted nancy pelosi for decades, making hurt public enemy number one. do you expect them to be the same for hakeem jeffries? how should he respond now he's in the leadership position? >> absolutely. this is a party that associates itself with bigots and antisemites. with a former president who wants to throw the constitution and put him back in power. this is a party who is supporting and going to put back on the committee, and only want to get rid of the apartment of justice that -- is critical to our national security. so i'm not surprised that president obama was attacking him under every way that they could. they have no policy, and they move forward, they just want to investigate an attack and bring people down.

we saw what democrats were able to do in the last two years, whether it was passing the american rescue plan, passing an infrastructure bill, and a jobs bill, and making sure that we are investing climate change. it's a sad, they and we know that we have to continue to fight to make sure that we come back stronger than ever in the majority in two years. to make sure that what they're fighting for the american people. that's what the country needs and that's what they want. >> let me get your thoughts on what is happening across the aisle with the leadership fight on the other side. do you believe, kevin mccarthy, will have enough votes to secure the speakership. what kind of impact does the scramble that we are seeing on top of on the rank and file members of the republican party? given the extremist nature of a big faction of the republican party? >> well it's interesting to see the fight play out publicly. but, we see the true colors of kevin mccarthy. and who is going to sell out to the soul of our country in the

constitution. we're gonna go back to the man who led this insurrection onside this insurrection. of january six, of our capital, of our democracy. so i'm not gonna be surprised if last-minute he sells out to make sure that he has the votes on the floor. and you know, if it doesn't happen. we're totally gonna see how that turns out. and we'll see what the republicans do. but for now, he just got a continue on our side to make sure that we are prepared to fight back against what we expect to be just a lot of investigations, not a lot of productivity for the american people i hope i'm wrong about that. >> this morning, you probably saw donald trump saying what i think a lot of people interpreted over the years as his actions to reflect. calling for the constitution to be suspended in order to overturn the 2020 election results. this is the man who is, by a lot of accounts, the defroster for 2024 republican party. he is certainly the standard for the republican party. and yet, it seems like he isn't

making any news in this country anymore because people just kind of say, oh he is the crazy old buckeye. nobody is listening to him. >> well that is something that we cannot allow to continue to happen. everyone should speak out, against this. including our colleagues on the other side. and making sure that we are protecting the constitution, our democracy. that is what america is built-in. so, to allow us to just go and not speak out against that? i think it just tells you how afraid the other side is of this man who. we know does not support the values of democracy in our constitution as he wants to throw it out so i hope my holly beach will grow a backbone. and speak out. and not support somebody like those who. we cannot afford it. certainly this country cannot afford it. >> before you go i just want to ask you about the push for immigration advocates, for democrats to take action on the deferred action for trial heard arrivals. known as daca. during this lame duck section

there trying to get something done in the session. that is something advocates want to see dame. those in the supreme court is all but certain determinate the program. leaving hundreds of thousands of immigrants at risk. do you think something can get done before january in this session? >> daca recipients need us to act, they need us to act in the congressional state of caucus. it has been leading this effort. and we are seeing a push across all our colleagues, we've got to get something done. whatever we can do. i know there's a huge push and i'm hopeful. i have to remain hopeful. for the daca recipients and for our country but it's not gonna be easy so let's continue to keep our voices up. and make sure that we continue to push and we are doing that with our congressional leaders. we're trying to see some action now. because clearly in the next two years, i think we're gonna see an anti-immigration agenda from our colleagues across the aisle. >> all, right congresswoman the nets thank you so much for your time. i appreciate you joining us for this evening.

>> thank you for having me. >> coming up! georgia senator raphael warnock makes his closing arguments with some help from president barack obama. but first, my friend richard is here with the headlines. hey richard. >> hey, good evening to you my friend. some of the stories i'm watching for you. a fedex truck driver in texas is charged with murder and kidnapping in the death of a seven year old girl who went missing just two days earlier. the disappearance of athena prompted a large search. with around 200 volunteers in the community. the pentagon has unveiled a next generation stealth bomber. it is called the 21 reader. the 21 writer is the first new u.s. bomber aircraft in more than three decades. it's part of the pentagon's efforts to modernize all three legs of its nuclear triad. the u.s. has been eliminated from the world cup after losing to the netherlands in the first round of the knockout stage. the netherlands, denzel dumfries, scoring a volley after sitting out the first two goals. this is the fifth time the u.s.

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umpteenth time in modern american politics, all eyes are on georgia again. on friday, the last day of early voting in the state senate runoff, a single day record was set, more than 350,000 georgians cast ballots that they. here is senator raphael warnock just this morning. >> let's show up and vote like we never voted before.

are you ready to knock on some doors? are you ready to keep this going all the way till election day? are you ready to send us the victory one more time? well, if you stay with me for three more days, i will stand up for you for six more years. >> and now that early voting is over, it's about election day turnout. senator warnock brought in big names to push people to the polls. >> 51 is better than 50 because it means that senator warnock will keep representing you at washington. [crowd chanting] that's the best reason. that's the number one reason. he was wondering if i was going to get to that. come on, reverend, you know i got your back. in case you're wondering, by the way, mr. walker decided he wanted to be a -- which is great. as far as i am concerned, he can be anything he wants to be, except for a united states senator. >> joining me now are jonathan

alter, msnbc contributor on substack and shermichael singleton, host of screen share on peacock. good to have you both with us. jonathan, i will start with you, if raphael warnock pulls this off, talk about what this means for the senate? what is the difference between a 50 and 51 seat majority? >> it will help the democrats on nominations for judges, for executive branch, it will smooth the process in several ways that give chuck schumer a freer hand. the really important thing, it would give them a little breathing room in the 2024 elections, where the democrats are defending eight seats. so you have democrats in purple or red states who are up, jackie rosen in nevada, christiansen in arizona, tammy baldwin in wisconsin, several others, i could go down the list, brown in ohio -- if they only had 50 seats, they literally have no margin for

error. they could not lose any of those seats in 2024 without losing control. now, as chuck schumer pointed out, if they win in georgia, they'll have a little bit of breathing room in the next election, which will be very important for them. >> shermichael, one republican who can appeal for herschel walker, the states lieutenant governor, not a significant figure within republican politics, at least in the georgia state. he said he could not bring himself to do it. do you think walker will have a turnout problem, especially if the senate is not on the line, and you have people like donald trump who is out there? >> i think it is possible. herschel walker is 37,000 votes

behind warnock, 60,000 votes from 50%. when you think about those numbers, you think about the fact that about 200,000 voters, 200 are split ticket voters but. that, many voted for republican governor kemp voted for warnock, a democrat instead of herschel walker. i've not seen any movement that would lead me to believe that those voters are somehow going to change their disposition. governor kemp has endorsed walker. he's on the campaign trail here and there, but for the most part, i think most -- voters have their minds made up. msnbc politically two or three days ago of republican voters, and they said they would vote for warnock. the woman said, and i remember this, she set or republicans, but not all of us are maga. there are significant number of

voters from those urban areas in northern and landa, where walker has not performed as well as republicans in the past. i think those things bode well for senator warnock. i think there is some significant concern on the walker campaign about his ability to win some of this split ticket voters, where i think he is struggling. if you can't win them, i don't know how he can also win the race. >> shermichael, do you think trump's presidential announcement hurt walker's chances? >> i think it gives democrats an incredible opportunity to say that we need to maintain control of the senate, because we need to prohibit someone like walker who is endorsed by donald trump so we continue to do the things that you all care about, such as abortion, education, all these other things that democrats really talked about, that clearly are possible for a significant

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>> that's president biden after he signed legislation to avoid a potential catastrophic rail strike. for years, rowers have endured grueling and unpredictable work schedules. in september, president biden brokered a deal between rail companies and the unions which would have given workers a 24% wage increase and caps on their health care premiums. but that deal was rejected by union members in part because it did not include paid sick leave. currently, rome workers in america have zero paid sick days, yes, you heard that correctly, zero. so congress stepped in but for the potential december 9th strike and passed legislation mirroring that september agreement. senate democrats included to include paid sick leave and a separate measure, but it was voted on by republicans. in the end, president biden signed the legislation in order to avoid a crippling the economy during the holidays, but his signature is in stark contrast to his pledge to be pro union. our panel is back with me.

jonathan, the washington post reported on a rock or who put off a doctor's appointment because he was called into work, and weeks later, he died of a heart attack. the lack of paid sick leave is serious, and we are seeing fatal consequences for workers. what is going on here? >> it's a terrible story, and 43 republican senators and almost the entire republican -- almost all of the republicans in the house are going to have it on their conscience, on their record that they voted against sick leave for these workers. having said that, i don't think it's fair to come down that hard on president biden. his job is to make sure that the economy does not collapse, which if you don't have motor fuel, if you don't have clean water, other things that a rail system provides, you have big problems in the country -- he got something pretty significant for these unions,

44% pay increase. eight of the 12 unions have gone along with this, so it's not like the entire labor movement is jumping down joe biden's there on this, and you had to take what you can get to prevent a crisis. >> biden said this, he said the fight is not over. we did not get it this round, but we does not mean we cannot get it in future rounds. shermichael, the real companies have been preparing for these potential respects for sometime. the intercept reports that since 2020, two major rail companies has spent nearly 1. 5 billion dollars on donations to congressional packs. do you believe these unions had a chance against the real companies when it came to the fight for their rights, given the political clout that the others had?

>> yeah, i don't think so, ayman, i think it was a parental battle to be frank with you. i have to agree with president biden on this. the last thing that the economy needs is any further disruption. when you look at the consumer confidence index, the confidence is pretty much at its lowest since july, despite how well black friday sales were. the confidence -- there is mixed confidence for most americans on the labor market. they just released an article a few days ago of a report that says we're approaching a recession or will be in one come early 2023. i think if you are the president, as previously stated, you want to do everything you can to avoid that as much as possible, so i applaud president biden who said, hey, this is not everything we wanted, but the fight is not over. that's the thing with politics, you don't always get the things you want initially, and i certainly understand how difficult that has been. i am a conservative, but god knows, i don't want people not being able to see a doctor one they're ill. that is something that is unconscionable for me as a

question. my hope is that my conservative friends, who i believe would have the same values as me with change their hearts on that issue. with that said, i think the president is doing the best he can to keep the economy on track. >> jonathan, there are progressive lawmakers who attempted to push through an amendment that would have included seven days of six they leave furlough workers, but were struck down in the senate. every democratic some percentage are joe manchin voted for it, and as shermichael set, you had 40 republicans voted against it. we know that members of congress have unlimited six paid leave. talk about the contrast here. what is the argument, the moral argument, the financial argument that these republicans and joe manchin are making as to why americans cannot have sick paid leave? >> the contrast is stark. this is why so many americans think politicians are hypocrites, but just to take

you into the details of this a little bit to give you some sense, the business model of the american free rail industry is set up in such a way that they have very little flexibility in their timetables, if they have people calling in sick more than a certain amount. so in order to dissuade that, if you want to call in sick, you have to take a vacation day. it's not like you can't ever call in sick, but you're not given the benefit that you really deserve for that sick leave, so in the negotiations, they tried to compensate for that with a significant pay increase, with some other benefits, that we don't have time to talk about, but i agree that the contrast remain stark between the rules that are politicians led by and does that even people with strong unions are forced to swallow. >> shermichael, president biden labeled himself a pro labor president. in 1992, he was one of only six senators who voted against stopping a rail strike. he said he's still committed to

fighting for worker paid sick leave. what do you make of his final decision here? >> look, ayman, again, i think the president looked at the bigger picture, that is to say, the economy. people have been struggling for the past two and a half to three years now. again, massive disruption, and it would lead to a recession. i think what jonathan was saying, as it pertains to the current business model, these rogue lines did -- i think you should give your workers the benefit of the doubt. if a person takes a sick day off, say, hey, supplied the medical documents, if the documents shook out, then fine. if the documents don't check out, then count it as -ification. there are ways from a business model where you can make this structurally work with efficiency and also hold workers accountable, but also employers should be held and countable on this. as it pertains to the president, i think a guy is doing the best

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expectation that the house of representatives will take swift action to see our delegate in congress honor our treaty right and therefore make the united states good on its promise to our cherokee ancestors. >> last month, cherokee nation principal chief chuck hoskin jr. testify before the house rules committee and a push for lawmakers to seek a delegate as soon as possible. 2019 chief hoskin nominated kim p he did serve as the delegations first bell get. tiki is a former obama administration advisor a native american affairs, the person ever to serve in this position. meanwhile, just this week, the biden administration announced new actions to support native americans in honor of the second white house trouble nascent summit, promising to give them a stronger voice in federal affairs but -- let start with the trouble nation summit which took place this week.

what do you make of president biden's new actions to support indian country and native american communities? >> those actions are meaningful, impactful, that's what we need to hear in indian country. we have a long history in this country,, neglect, suppression, aggression, great injustice, and we're in an era where we can make progress. we have to have leaders we can engage with at the highest level. that's what we saw last week at the white house tribal nations senate. it was very welcomed. >> let me look at your look to see the treaty being fulfilled. what would a delegate in congress, a long overdue promised by the united states congress mean for the cherokee nation? >> well, it would be both great simple and substance. i think both for the cherokee nation and u.s.. you think about the symbolism

of this. after 200 years, the united states keeping a promise in a treaty. the united states has broken every treaty as had with the cherokee nation. the time now is to make amends with that in a larger sense. in so far as the substance of it, a delegate in the house of representatives has great influence and power. right now, the jerky nation operates on the outside of congress advocating for issues, trying to stop policy that would be that tremendous. having a delicate be our voice on matters such as natural resources, tribal sovereignty, funding so that the united states would meet at long last its obligation to indian country, and in that regard, this is bigger than the cherokee nation. this is about a champion in the congress for all of indian country, which is what kim teehee would be. also, here's the deal, if the united states would make good on this promise, i think we can leverage that into more progress on treaty rights in this country, and we need to do it. >> let me ask you about that, you said yourself, and pointed out, the united states has effectively broken every treaty has had with native americans in this country. what confidence do you have the congress would see this promise to see a delegate through?

why would this time be any different? >> look, i am a tribal leader, and i know my history. i plenty of reason to be pessimistic. i can look back to centuries and generations of charities that have seen the united states disappoint us, men out injustice, dispossess thus of our possessions and livelihood, but i can also be optimistic. but i think because we're in a time at this country on a bipartisan basis, there is interest in achieving justice for native americans. i'm not saying it's widespread, i think it's a matter of educating people. as we have gone to congress on a bipartisan basis and talked about this treaty right, i have to tell you, i've been encouraged about the response because no one has said no, there's been a great deal of genuine curiosity about this, fair questions asked, so i have reason to be optimistic notwithstanding that this takes place against the backdrop of centuries of broken promises. i need to be optimistic, i need to help lead the cherokee nation to a better time, and

it's taking some optimism to do that. >> fair enough, and i think that's about it. i want to ask you about this interview with the new york times with kim teehee, who you have nominated for the delicate position in congress, and said it could be overwhelming to see what was bargained for and lost as a result of that treaty. it led to the forced removal and subsequent deaths of thousands. do you see this eating of a delegate in congress as a form of justice for the forced arm that the cherokee people have endured? >> this is a measure of justice. think about this, the united states effectively broke the treaty almost 200 years ago. the united states was quick to hold the cherokee nation accountable, in other words, they moved us across the map and really killed 4000 of our fellow cherokee's, a quarter of our population, ripped our political system apart, our political institutions apart, destroy this out of existence, which i think was part of the plan.

we stood strong and carried on. i think there is some justice to be had when we reach back into that treaty, which is such a symbol of pain and suffering for the cherokee people, we reach back into it and find that there is a voice for us in the government of the united states, i think we have to make good on the. i feel obligated to do it in the name of my ancestors, so that's why we're working so hard. i think we can get this done. >> chief chuck hoskin jr., let me apologize earlier, i mispronounced the name of the treaty, so thank you so much for correcting me on the, i apologize to you and everyone for mispronouncing it. thank you, sir, for joining us, i appreciate your insights. >> thank you. >> john fetterman's bold and engaging social media strategy helped him win the pennsylvania senate race. i'll speak with the woman behind that plan. i will see if i can recruit her to come work for us here on the show. don't go anywhere.

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his push for an assault weapons ban after another string of mass shootings, but it won't pass before the new congress is sworn in, and it will never make to a republican-led house, but the biden administration is doing what it can to recast the fight on their terms, going on the offense and using the gop as a foil. according to politico, this is the new way as planned for the divided congress. biden will elevate fringe republicans like marjorie taylor greene and make them the face of the gop in an attempt to turn off independent voters and sell his ideas to the public. one biden ally said, quote, pretending those threats did not exist would only help them grow. it is arguably one of the main tactics to help democrats win control of the senate. after all, john fetterman might not have one in pennsylvania had he not painted mehmet oz as a trump endorsed maga extremists. and my next guest played a major role in those efforts. joining me now is andy mchenry,

the social media producer for the john fetterman campaign. it's good to have you with us. i'm excited to speak to you about this and much more. let me start with how successful you thought your strategy was in the fetterman campaign? how important was it in his ability to get across the finish line? this was a tight race, everybody would agree that the social media strategy, your team or his team that included you ran was brilliant and effective. >> yeah, i mean, you set the team, and i want to be really clear that we had such a phenomenal team of people not only on the digital team doing things like social media and email fund raising and all those things but from the conch perspective. -- things like that and overall, our political team, everyone was so fantastic, and i think that we really showed john and his authenticity as being a pennsylvanian who has always stood up and fought for pennsylvanians, and being an authentic guy. he wears a sweat shirt and shorts, and he shows you what is. i think it was an obama quote

from when they travel together during events [laughs] and he said john fetterman is just a dude. he comes off that way. we wanted to show, including on social media, that, because that is what will resonate with the people of pennsylvania, and that worked very well to contrast with who limit oz is which is a fraud and he is in authentic. he has lied on his top, show and he is flip-flopped on positions and done all these things so inauthentic and contrasting that with john fetterman's authenticity and steadfast beliefs and standing up for the causes he believes in. >> let's take that from the moment of the lessons you learn from the campaign and see if we can apply to this white house and democrats. >> let's take that from the moment of the lessons you learn from the campaign and see if we can apply to this white house and democrats. do you think it would be an

effective strategy to apply that to -- for democrats to apply that to republicans in the sense that i talk about this contrast, to contest the republicans that the way the biden administration wants to with some of the republicans like marjorie taylor greene and make them the face of the republican extremist agenda in blocking gun legislation? >> i think showing what we did, we were not lying, we were just showing -- us owns ten houses. oz does not know where he resides. things like that that were very true. i think the white house is started to do that with the ppp loans. they started calling out the different politicians who were either taking credit or doing different things that they did not vote for those loans to be given out to the citizens of this country, so i think that they are starting to do that and show that these are who these people are, and or not

going to hide that, and i don't think it needs to be in a nasty way, i think you can show them who a lot of these extreme republicans are, and to the american people, you can see that they are extreme and harmful. >> how does one strategize around an issue like gun reform in this country are gun legislation? there is a movement in this country that i would argue is being led by gen z who are fed up with the lack of gun reform in this country. the politicians who are making these decisions seem to be very far removed from the generation, very far removed from where the majority of americans are, that something should have been. but how do you strategize and come up with a social media strategy around something like meaningful gun reform? >> i think the thing about gun reform and gun control, the epidemic in this country is

that, it's a very personal issue, and i think especially to young people that have gone through active shooter drills, a lot of people have gone through either a true active shooter experience or false alarm or things like that. i know i have. with anything and with communicating, whether it be in person, whether it be a social media, i think it's about making things personal and digging in to people feeling why these issues are important. i think it's a lot with gen z on social media sharing how they have been impacted, sharing about what their experiences were like in middle school or high school or even things like elementary school, doing these drills, having friends and family and people in the communities and people that they love impacted by a policy choice that is killing people. so i think it's really highlighting that from a personal way that we will hopefully let people care before their impacted because i hope that more people are not impacted by it. >> the campaign is obviously

over. you tell me before we came on that you are weighing your next options. not the put you on the spot but, what were some of your favorite moments in the campaign that you enjoyed that would make you say, i do want to do this again, i do want to stay in politics, certainly on a campaign? >> yeah, i think we were able to have so much fun on this campaign and, yes, it's very tiring and stressful and long hours, but i think we were able to show and hopefully it will to show for the social media side of things and in general that you can have fun and do politics and obviously, there are things you have to be serious about, and the stakes are really high but you can do things that are fun and it does not have to be boring. i think we were able to do a

lot of that and a lot of those moments were my favorites. i think also, it's cliché but winning, obviously, that felt good but i don't think anyone thought, including myself, that it would be called a night, simply because of mail-in voting regulations in pennsylvania and the larger population areas typically being more likely to have mail-in voting, and mail-in voting likely to be more democrat. like we saw in 2020 and even with some of the other states with the senate election was votes were trickling in, and we thought and be over the next few days. being able to be in person that night, not expecting it to be what it was, super late at night, with the team and being around so many people that are no put in long hours, so much heart and time and energy into this, it was really special. >> can i ask you quickly, we have about 30 seconds left, with everything that is happening now with social media and twitter in particular, how do you think that will impact the work that you and others do going forward? are you watching it with concern? >> yeah, for sure, a lot of concern, because i care about social media, i have done it on my own, and i do in a can professional capacity and obviously this. i think that social media is such a powerful tool and can be used for good or bad.

we are seeing that. i think as the power continues to expand with social media, as the u.s. continues to expand, the responsibility level will continue to be of most importance, and that it, yes, we need free speech, but we also don't need hate speech. we need people to feel like they are in a space where they will not be harmed, just like they would be in person. i think as we continue to utilize these platforms, that will continue to i think expand, i think we need to make sure responsibility is also being checked. >> amy -- any wu henry, thank you for your time, best of luck to you going forward. and thank you for making time with us at home. come back tomorrow night at 9 pm eastern. michigan state senator mallory mcmorrow will be here first off her and dressed at the famous grid iron. shoot discuss the biden agenda and her future plans to influence michigan and national politics. until then, i am ayman mohyeldin. have a good night. >> ♪ ♪ ♪

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