statement reacting to donald trump's suggestion. we suspend the constitution and declare him president yet again. for some republicans, even this is nowhere near where they draw the line. >> whoever the republicans, think they end up falling behind. even if it's donald trump and his call for spent in the constitution, again it's going to be a big field. i think donald trump is going to clear out the field. the remarkable statement. you support a candidate who's going up for suspending the constitution. >> it says a lot of things you have to take into context. >> he was the president of the united states. we are also down to the wire in the last minute campaigning in georgia. we are seeing one candidate a lot more than the other. also this hour, iranian state media question reports morality police has been disbanded. a claim already met with skepticism by one activist inside the country. >> several of us have gained

confidence we. fearless, we walk around with our head scarves around our necks. you could say there's a lesser chance of someone formerly approaching you to notify you of a pending hijab laws, that doesn't deal that is no threat at all. >> more of my reporting on this story ahead. it sounds like something out of a movie. >> your move, creep. science fiction may soon be reality and san francisco. a voter to allow police to use armed robots an extreme situation. i'm going to talk to one official who thinks this is a dangerous idea. that conversation is coming up as well. first, let's start at the white house. responding to the outlandish call to overturn the 2020 election. reinstate him to power the. the white house responded to the former president's comments saying the comment should be

universally clamp condemned. joining me now is josh lederman. with more on this. josh, a few, we'll talk us through some of what we've been hearing from the white house and reactions to former president donald trump. >> he has been, this is a white house that has been low for the last two years to weigh in on a day-to-day basis on former president trump's comments and controversial actions. the last thing that they want to do is give more oxygen to offensive things from the former president by giving them the attention of the white house. in this instance, white house officials did feel that this was one of those rare moments where president biden and his team needed to take a stand, needed to go on the record saying that what former president trump has put out there is absolutely not acceptable. that came in a spokesman statement from andrew bates, one of the spokesman for that white house who called the constitution the ultimate monument to americans who have

given their lives for our freedoms and our rights. bates going on to say that attacking the constitution and all it stands for is anathema to the soul of our nation and should be universally condemned. he says, you cannot only love america when you win. that is a similar mission to what we're hearing from what we have a lot of democratic elected officials. of course, the real question is, how many of the members of former president trump's republican party are also going to condemn his comments. is this the nick fuentes lunch where a lot of republicans say that was a bridge too far. it is this as we're starting to see one of those comments that republicans prefer to simply ignore? as we heard from congressman david joyce, a republican from ohio, played a little bit of an inch or. there he was on abc this morning really trying to dodge having to explicitly condemn president trump for these comments. here's what he had to say. >> first off, he has no ability to suspend the constitution.

since -- >> he's for it. >> he says a lot of things. that doesn't mean that it's never going to happen. you have to take fact from fantasy. -- we are moving forward. we are going to continue to move forward as republican majority and as a republican conference. >> joy stephanopoulos went on to press congressmen joyous on how they can move forward as he says he wants to do when the punitive leader of their partner and former president is calling for suspending the constitution that all of our government is based on. but have no doubt about it, yasmin every republican elected official as they come back to washington, as they are going through this lame duck session is going to get asked about former president trump's comments whether it's something they can tolerate and whether it disqualifies him from being a presidential candidate going forward. >> the question is, of, course how are they going to answer? josh lederman for us, as, always we thank you. let me bring in msnbc political

contributor and founder of country party matthew dowd. great to see you, matthew. our beautiful christmas tree behind you, as. well i find that ironic, i've got to, say i was on the steps of the capitol on january six. the following day as well. i remember talking to this couple ungenerous evident and the aftermath of the insurrection. th e aftermath of the insurrecthey are both wearing bl has its had 1776. they were there in support of the former president, to overturn the results of the 2020 election based upon what they saw as the tenants of the u.s. constitution. here we have now,, write a former president of the united states saying, all, right list to spend the constitution and reinstate me as the president, for no reason once lever. what do you make of it and the fact that you have now republicans not even stepping out to disavow. mike turner, congressman-elect mike lawler as well, disavowing the firm president.

a top republican's remaining silent. >> yeah, i think you point out something very good. go on social media and look at all of the supporters of donald trump. most of them have the constitution in the background on one of their pictures are we the people as of phraseology they constantly use. the level of disconnect here, yasmin, is sort of outrageously unbelievable to me in this moment. i mean, i think the appropriate question to ask republicans who seem to sketch this line and refused to condemn the president on this, which you would think be a red line is what is the line? what could the president do our former president to do that would be enough for you to say, no, i'm done with him. it doesn't seem to be an insurrection at the capitol. it doesn't seem to be welcoming antisemitic people and racist. -- we had a clear picture which is always a good thing.

a clear picture into people's real motivations. what seems to be the real motivation is not preservation of the constitution. it's not defending our democracy. it is the accumulation of power. and that's all you can see and this. and the cumulation of power by thinking they can state link to donald trump, they think they have a greater access to power. the november election showed. otherwise they still seem to be in that mode where anything they do against the president it's going to take away their power. so, the constitution be damned. they don't care, democracy, they can get rid of it as long as we can get the power. >> yeah, power really and, any cause. so, this is kind of a part of this really convoluted timeline. much of which was stemming from something that was happening on, twitter right? with elon musk. it seems like so much estimating that these days. it was release of these twitter files, right? they were related to this

controversy surrounding a new york post article and hunter biden. who's with the washington post said. by the time the dust settled saturday, even some can's servants were grumbling that it was a dead. musk's twitter files released no smoking gun showing the detective had been to the little democrats. the twitter thread based on communications posted by substack writer mattei be showed the company independently tried to limit the spread of the article without a democratic politicians or fbi exerting control of the social media network. this happens, i believe it was, october 2020 when trump was president, biden was in fact at that point running for office. what do you make of what even musk did? the dissemination and distribution out of so much misinformation. what we have become matthew.

>> ever since elon musk took over twitter, we've seen it devolve into something that is nothing close to truth and nothing close to unifying in the country as we see it today. what amazes me, elon musk might have spent a little bit more time speeding the first amendment and what it said. is immediate thing, this is a violation of the first amendment, as far as i can, tell no government authority told twitter not to do something. it seems like they're upset. upset that some pornographic revealing picture of hunter biden went revealed in this. i think anybody, no matter if you're red, blue, purple on this thing, are glad that twitter exercise some discretion in this regard. this goes in line with what elon musk tweeted out right before the november election. basically, vote for all republicans in the election. aloha doing whatever he can in the midst of this to try to further these conspiracy theories. it was amazing to me that all

of these sort of fox news whoever else jumped on this without ever fully understanding that it was basically meaningless. actually, it turned out to be a good thing. >> matthew dowd, thanks for sifting through it with us. we appreciate you. let's switch gears if we can for a moment. we're going to head overseas. let's talk around for a moment. state media, they are questioning this report saying that the morality police had been disbanded. this is coming after earlier reports that the country's attorney general said the controversy over morality police will be quote about quote abolished and that is ongoing nationwide protests. we also know that muhammad jeff are who made the statement is not responsible for overseeing the morality police and his role as attorney general. there's also been no comment or confirmation from iran's leadership -- after the story broke, i spoke to a protester inside of iran

who disputed the idea that the morality police had been disbanded even before state media did. >> it is a gross must and return to say that the morality police have ceased to exist. the way i see it, the focus has merely shifted. the authorities have been too busy trying to crack down on the protest by making political arrests and watched not so recently this has been their main priority as opposed to taking in women for improper her job. the fact that they aren't currently operating as it doesn't mean that they've been formally abolished. >> the protests would in fact continue even if the regime made small concessions because this is about a much bigger picture. >> i don't think the protests will stop. even if the morality police or some of the passive i.t. is the euphemism fashion disease

legally and formally abolished, that would not at this way the iranian public from obtaining the higher collective goal that has formed which targets the core and the sense of the dictatorship we've been living under. with all the murder and bloodshed and arrest and that looming danger of execution for those detained, most iranians have grown exponentially angrier and see it as betrayal to go about the usual lives and pretend that nothing's happened. some recent chance we here in protest, we will not forgive, forget or we swear on the blood of our compatriots that we will be standing until the very end. and this is our last message. our goal is the entirety of the regime. >> therein lies the gray of the black and white of so much of the reporting that's been going on. let's bring into this conversation the founder of the iranian diaspora collective. you saw some of the reporting i did yesterday with her when it came to the protests that are happening online, helping

spread the word of some of the protesters in iran and across the internet. talk to me, this has been seen as a very black and white issue. you saw the headlines splashed across newspapers saying the morality place there -- so much gray and all of this because no laws have changed and is that -- is telling me. even if there are these incremental changes, i, 80 she camacho out without a head scarf on, it doesn't mean they're going to stop. this is just a tip of the iceberg. talk to me. you are muted. >> the red, my apologies, thanks for having me back. important story to cover today. look, it's fair to say that the islamic republic feels like they are on the ropes at this point in time. it's fair to say the diaspora

of the audience are running the information war. they're looking to fight. back more importantly, they are looking to put out the news of these big general strikes that are happening here. later this week with the iranian people calling for three days a spray strike, that's, worker students, people across medical fields. i think these strikes are one of the greatest threats to the islamic republic. i think this is their attempts to squash these stories. it's unfortunate the story that came out this morning, we are happy to see various different media sources correcting the headlines and pulling down the stories, the story has no credibility, it's of substantiated, it actually causes, it's not helping the protesters on the ground you are calling for, not just reform but regime change. i think also kind of one of the distinctions that has been made to me personally has been, even

if you don't see them in the streets, because that has been consistently told to me from a lot of people on the ground here, that they are not being taken in as they once were if they're showing hair or showing ankle, right? it is not because the government has stepped up and said okay, we accept that change is needed. it is on the backs of these iranian protesters. there are still making sacrifices and risking their lives every day when they walk out of their homes without a head scarf in spite of all that is being reported and what we are seeing. >> there are over 18,000 political prisoners right now today and iran. we're talking about 450 some of people have been murdered, over 64 of them have been children. if they're going to release all these political prisoners, we will consider that. that will be a statement. if they were going to allow

families to hold funerals, that would be a statement. but they are not doing that. this is an attempt to squash the news around these general strikes. i think the islamic republic knows that as these strikes grow, these protests grow, it becomes more and more dangerous, their power is dwindling. i think the iranian people are growing encouraged. i think the western audiences are coming to be their partners in terms of communication and how we can support on the other side. but i think this is a big sign that they know that their time is up and they are on borrowed time at this point. >> but how long could that borrowed time last? >> i mean, look, i think you have amazing organizers inside and outside of the country, working across many lines, trying to communicate, how to push these strikes to the next level, how to get more people on the streets. and how to get the western audiences, and importantly, the

western governments, involved in non military support of regime change. that is what needs to happen here. we are dealing with 18,000 people. the amount of sexual violence and the stories of women being brutally raped, gender based violence against men and women -- children. we are talking about people as young as four, 12, 16. this is the work of the un. this is the work of many nonprofits out there, reporting on this. but we need is accurate reporting. we need the voices of the iranian activists here in the west. the iranian academics. the people who have been working on these issues for the past 20 some odd years. we need them to have the opportunity to start to come forward. and we need the west to really aid them. but if you see these protesters, they are not scared, they are not backing down. and i think you will see big news coming out of iran over the next few days with the strikes. because the strikes are no small thing. and i think the islamic republic's terrified. >> we will keep our eye on it. -- thank you.

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it has been exactly three weeks since four students at the university of idaho were murdered in their streets -- asleep. -- has moved from shock to anger and confusion -- answers and justice remain elusive. -- the latest developments and what we are hearing from the victims families. we are in week three, as you are just saying, in the case of four stabbed iowa university students. and it feels like it could be like week one of this homicide investigation. no suspect, no motive, no murder weapon. and a victim's father is angry. >> it is ridiculous. it is angering. you know? this amount of time and i can't even get them to say that this is a -- we can't have that kind of closure with that guy still on

the streets. >> then, in the last 24 hours, we got information on evidence. police are saying they received more than 20 emails related to all of this. more than 2700 phone tips, more than 1000 submissions to an fbi length. also, more than 110 pieces of physical evidence. in addition to that, roughly 4000 crime scene photos. that helped little in the case of several hundred students who gathered wednesday. you see here. this is a hall normally for celebrations. they cried. and they mourn the loss of their classmates. some were confused with what authorities were saying in recent statements. the mix of messages started week one with police saying it was an isolated, targeted attack. that was november 13th. that moved to, we cannot say

there is no threat to the community on november 16th. then, this wednesday, they were saying, one or more victims targeted. same day, different place, saying, unknown if it was a residents or victims targeted in this entire incident -- here is what they told nbc's morgan chesky. >> was it one individual? multiple individuals? or the location -- we have not made that determination yet. >> while they were not clear what the case does involve, authorities have been clear about what it does not. let me go through some of those for you. victims were not gagged or tied. this was not about reports of a skin dog that happened weeks before, also not connected. deceased animals on a property, not connected.

related to two other stabbing incidents in neighboring states? also not connected. and then, an argument between people, to people, that involved a folding knife are not connected. they are very clear about what's not involved. that is why they cautioned that crowd sourced information is sometimes not right. let me show you some of the numbers they have so far. one private facebook group has more than 32,000 members. read it formed 27,000 members. idaho murders on tiktok, 94 million. yasmin, the concern here is from the family specifically because as evidence starts to dry up, they don't want this to become a cold case. >> and just all the questions that are out there. those families must be in so much pain. just hurting so much with the loss of their kids and not knowing who to point a finger at and just getting answers to all of this for any type of closure. so tragic.

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every day, campaigning his heart out in the lead out to this runoff. herschel walker has been a little bit more quiet throughout the last few weeks. what do you make of these kind of differing approaches in the lead up to tuesday? >> yeah, it has been a mixed bag for herschel walker. he had no public events out a day. he had one sunday, today. that's the one i'm attending right now. but he has five events on monday schedule. so, it has been less consistent on his side. not a lot of explanation from his campaign about the method behind the schedule. as you mentioned, raphael warnock has been much more consistent. his campaign has been much more robust with different kinds of offense. different types of voters throughout the weekend -- and we expect him to also have a packed schedule tomorrow. so, again, it's harder to

explain or understand exactly what herschel's campaign is doing as far as why it's been so inconsistent. but clearly with raphael warnock, what he's trying to do is make sure every possible group that might support him feels touched in the final weeks of this campaign. >> what do you make of the 76,000 number? voters showing up who did not vote in the midterms. what do you make of that? that is a pretty big number. what is driving that? >> well, i think enthusiasm is driving it. all the attention on this runoff is driving it. what we are seeing is that particularly among folks like younger voters, voters of color, there are a lot of grassroots activists organizations really focused on getting out the vote for this runoff. so, it is not just the campaign, particularly those folks that

are supporting raphael warnock, there are so many types of activists and political organizations also on the ground. so, there is a huge effort to contact voters. they're sending text messages. they're making phone calls. there are knocking on doors. and it looks like they got people to vote who may be worn as a gauge for the general election. >> sounds like that party is just getting started there behind you. i will let you go so you can do your job. we appreciate you joining us this hour. thank you. all eyes on that runoff on tuesday. new reaction today, everybody, to the suspension of rapper ye from twitter after he posted a swastika and made antisemitic comments. -- he has a message for his good friend, donald trump. >> first, let me say that president trump did great things for israel. he recognized jerusalem as our capital. long overdue since king david

proclaimed it as such. he moved to the american embassy there. he recognized are -- out of what i believe estate disastrous around deal that would have paved iran's path with gold, hundreds of billions of dollars of sanctions relief towards a nuclear arsenal -- he's done great things. i appreciate it. and i remain appreciative. on this matter, on kanye west and that other unacceptable guest, i think it is not really unacceptable, it is just wrong. and i hope he sees his way to staying out of it and condemning it. >> joining me is the anti defamation league's vice president. if you would react for me with what benjamin netanyahu just had to say. praising donald trump and what he did for the state of israel as he sees and what he expects to happen from the former president, considering the fact that he hasn't -- >> yeah, i think a lot of

people who understand the impact that antisemitism can have from influencers such as ye and others, we expect people, who provide them a platform, to stop providing them that platform. and secondarily, to condemn them. to say that there is no space in our public discussion, no space online, no space at our dinner table, frankly, for antisemites like that. because we know how those types of tropes and conspiracies animate people to action and the community feels very vulnerable right now. >> what is your reaction to kind of this normalization of hate speech that we have been seeing from the likes of people like kanye west bringing his, quote unquote, friend, nick fuentes, an antisemite, white supremacist, to a lunch or a meal or a dinner, whatever it was, with the former president?

over and over again, we have been kind of the normalization of this hate speech. what do you make of this position that we are now in? not only does it seem that it is acceptable, it is being seen as freedom of speech to a certain extent. but it is also not being condemned. >> so, i think we are seeing some people, again, on both sides of the aisle, recognizing that having a white supremacist dine with an antisemite who has more followers on twitter than there are jews on the planet earth, along with the president, is a bad idea. that serves to legitimize that point of view any type of hatred that we all need to condemn. unfortunately, this condemnation does not always come easy. it comes a little bit late. and frankly, it is beyond the fact that we have a white supremacist and kanye meeting with the president. but a week later, they show up and speak on a platform that we know has animated people to

violence. whether it's sandy hook, or in front of a pizza place in washington, d.c., there are consequences to this type of antisemitism. look no further even than what the dhs just warned about. domestic terror threats against the jewish community, lgbtq community, and migrant communities. in part because of the mainstreaming of these ideas online and off. >> i want to talk, as you mentioned, i think it's very important -- talking about some of the stats that both you and your group have stated along with the center for -- talking specifically about elon musk, since he has taken over twitter and what you have been seeing specifically online. hate speech against gay men's at -- against black americans, up to hundred 2%. and social media experts are warning that the increase in antisemitism unites fringe groups. and it could contribute to more

violence. and by the way, they are also using many of the social media platforms to talk about their hate speech. to write their kind of 40-page diatribes of why they hate and what is compelling them to act on this hate. >> that is right. we have seen way too often how online activity, the ability for extremist to communicate their hatred, has animated real world activity and violence. frankly, look no further than just this week, where we have seen a series of extremists come together and target the lgbtq community in different parts of the country. trying to intimidate them at the events that they are holding. look no further than plots against synagogues in new york and new jersey. and honestly, it is just a reality that nobody can debate any longer. when you look at the manifestos that are created, you look at the ways extremist communicate and try to reach and recruit and radicalize people, these

are happening in online spaces and it is not unreasonable for people to expect those platforms to a better job to try to stop and push back against that hate. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. coming up everybody, the latest on kevin mccarthy's bid to become house speaker. a look at the handful of people in his own party who are working against him. after the break, is it science fiction come to life? ion come to life the city of san francisco has approved police robots that can use deadly force. and my next guest says this is very disturbing. very disturbing. kevin! kevin! kevin? oh nice. kevin, where are you... kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays

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of the movie robocall up. but in the city of san francisco, it could soon become a reality. this week, the san francisco board of supervisors voted to allow police to use remote controlled robots with lethal capabilities in emergency situations. in a statement, the san francisco department said, robots equipped in this manner would only be used in extreme circumstances to save or prevent further loss of innocent life. -- he voted against the measure and he is joining us now. thank you for joining us on this. we appreciate it. tell me about this. because i'm actually curious. first, i'm curious about why you voted against it, then we will get into the details. >> thank you so much for having me on and focusing on this issue. i voted against it for a very simple reason. i don't think that a local police department should have robots capable of inflicting

deadly harm against the residents of our city. i have to say, i was amazed that this was ever proposed in our city by the mayor and by the police department and even more amazed that the majority of my colleagues voted for this earlier this week. >> so, you talk about the majority of her colleagues. i want to get your response to one of your fellow board members. they said, there's larger questions raised when progressive and progressive policies start looking at the public like their anti police. i think that is bad for progressives. i think it's bad for the sport of supervisors. i think it's bad for democrats nationally. do you think your position of being against these robots's anti police? >> no. i think with all due respect, my colleague was pretty off-base on this one. you know, there was no showing whatsoever and there is a need for police to have robots.

it's just not there was no showing that it was needed for any law enforcement purpose. for any kind of event anyone could even imagine in san francisco. and at a certain point, we need to be more honest when we are talking about public safety. people have fears and legitimate fears. and they want to be safe. and just offering more and more deadly technology to police departments doesn't automatically make peoples safer. so, i think there's a lot of things we can invest in and san francisco that will make us safer. this is definitely not one of them. i want to highlight, since this, i have heard from thousands of people across san francisco, who are totally opposed to giving the police this kind of technology. and overwhelmingly, all the civil rights crews and residents of the city have been saying that they think it makes no sense to do this and they feel less safe if police have killer robots. >> quickly here.

i am curious as to what they mean by extreme circumstances -- do they have specifics about that type of statement? and then, who decides to deploy these robots? who subsequently is responsible for them, especially if they do any kind of wrongdoing, i.e., they shoot the wrong person? >> right. the policy was amended so that the chief of police or the assistant chief of police have to sign off on this use of robots as deadly weapons. that did not give me a lot of comfort. when the very assistant chief, who has discretion to use these, was at the hearing last week and was giving examples of when they might need this. and the examples were, number one was, in case there was a suicide bomber. so, somehow he thought it was a good idea to send a robot armed with an explosive to try to subdue a suicide bomber. that makes absolutely no sense to me. and then, the other example was

a situation like the -- mass shooting. and again, the suggestion that these robots with their explosives would be used to go into a fully occupied hotel and blow the hotel up. i mean, these are the kinds of examples being given by the very people who have the discretion on whether to use this technology. so, i think it would be extremely reckless to give this final approval and i am really hoping that my colleagues change their minds and on tuesday, we have the final vote on this. >> got it. dean preston, thank you. all, right coming up everybody, we will tell you what former trump administration official could potentially take on their former boss in the 2024 presidential election. plus, the length that kevin mccarthy could go to in his quest to win speakership. >> dear laura jesus, i do not often speak with you and ask for things, but now i really must insist that you help me

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with this slim majority, the california representative can only afford to lose for. but as some republicans are pointing out, you can't -- with no one. >> right now, we hear that they will not vote for kevin. but he deserves the opportunity. and he has done his hard work that is necessary to bring together the majority. he laid on an outline in which we could represent this constituency and this country moving forward. >> a month as a long time in politics. but i am confident that kevin mccarthy will have 218 votes. kevin is the only person that i will be voting for force speaker if it is one vote or multiple votes. >> a senior political reporter that has been following this power struggle for sometime -- talk to me, tara, because it seems at this point, will he get speakership only because there is really nobody else? >> i don't think that's the case. already, you heard from the freedom caucus that they are

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what happens then? >> okay, so, i think there's a few hours in between. so say mccarthy is voted down. he could possibly go back to them and renegotiate and someone could submit his name again for a speakers vote. but more likely than that, scalise or someone else would be nominated. and there would be another vote. you are seeing a lot of these moderates from new york in california, who actually handed republicans the majority, like mike lawler, who we just saw on cnn. i'm only voting for mccarthy, he says. mccarthy is a big part of the reason. and the truth is that the house freedom caucus is throwing its weight around. it's able to be in the majority right now, but moderates in california overwhelmingly want mccarthy. i'm not sure it is scalise different from mccarthy -- >> give me your reporting pretty quickly if you can.

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