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politicsnation from washington, d.c.. tonight's lead, closing arguments. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the final weekend in the georgia senate runoff is drawing to a close with election day looming on tuesday. democratic senator raphael warnock spent the afternoon crisscrossing the state, right now he is due to hold -- for warnock event in athens, home of the university of georgia. his republican opponent, herschel walker, whose football prowess is unchallenged but his

fitness for office has come under scrutiny. he appeared this afternoon alongside south carolina's senator tim scott in loganville. former president donald trump hasn't made any appearances in georgia during the runoff, but he seems content to gin up destruct distractions from afar. on a post on his truth social network, trump called for a suspension of the u.s. constitution and the reinstallation as president of united states. the biden white house responded with a stern rebuke, stating, quote, you cannot only love america when you win, unquote. it is a busy sunday, let's get started. joining me now, stephen foxland, incumbent chair of the congressional black caucus. congressman, thank you for joining us and congratulations on your championship. >> thank you, reverend for

having me. i'm excited to be coming in as the 28th chair for the congressional black caucus only 118th congress. we had a lot of historic events that happened, also, with the election of congressman jeffries as the next leader of the 118th and the next speaker when we take back the majority. >> yes, well, we are certainly happy about both our key menu and, i take personally privilege on both members of the national action network and we work together on many issues. but let's start with this runoff in georgia, which we must point out has been historically significant. a race between two black man for a senate seat in georgia. the new york times writes, today, and quote, the contest might have been a showcase of black political power in the deep south but many black voters say herschel walker's campaign has marred the moment,

unquote. congressman, what have been your feelings? what have your feelings really been as we've watched this campaign play out. >> without question the voters of georgia have a clear contrast in the choice that is leading up to two states runoff. i am confident that reverend warnock will be reelected to a full term. he is a champion on so many issues, including voting rights and it is one of the reasons why many of our members are actually on the ground in georgia, helping to make sure that he winds successfully this tuesday. >> now, as important as the georgia senate races. the most consequential -- this week could be the democratic party moving forward on a plan to re-order the primary calendar, putting south carolina first in the nation.

then, your home state of nevada three days -- president joe biden personally pushed for the plan, saying the nomination process should better represent non-white voters. . as a soon to be head of the congressional black caucus, what are your thoughts about this proposal? how do you think it could transform the democratic party overtime? >> well, where banal, i am very pleased with the recommendation and the fact that the dnc rules committee has approved south carolina as the first state in the nation and that nevada will follow, because our state, has a multi racial state reflects the diversity of america and the america that will continue to diversify. i am proud in nevada will have a greater voice in helping to select our nominee in the years

to come, cycles to come, and as we did in 2020 in helping to position, now president biden, as he went on to south carolina to win that victory. i am proud that our state is now moving up in the calendar and we have a greater say in the process. >> let's turn to the next congress. you will be assuming the cbc chair as republicans take over the house and it seems like the gop is having a real problem with racism in its ranks. you have former president donald trump dining with the white supremacist just days after announcing a third run for the white house. the likely next speaker kevin mccarthy will be have is under immense pressure to give status and power to a far right lawmakers with a history of inflammatory behaviors filters representatives matt gates and

marjorie taylor greene. what is the role of the congressional black caucus in that climate? >> well, revenue, the congressional black caucus isn't has been known as the conscience of the congress. as you know, we have been in existence since 1971. we have started with 13 founders we now have 58 members representing over 80 million constituents across these united states. 17 million black americans. we, as a congressional black caucus will continue to protect and preserve our democracy which is fundamental. whether it's voting, protecting our courts, ensuring access to public education for our children. we understand the importance of this moment and pushing back on white supremacy, antisemitism, and other forms of hate against

any group. the congressional black caucus is not only about representing the issues of the black community, it is about fighting for the needs and over the issues have all communities and to stand against discriminate shun and hate wherever it is. >> you mentioned hate. let's finish on twitter. it has been nearly a month and a half since elon musk took control of the social network and we continue to get new reports that hate speech has exploded on the platform. as mask offers amnesty to ban accounts and fire content moderators. mosques response on friday was to say that even if the amount of racist messages is going up, the number of views each individual hateful tweet gets is going down. this is a private company, but it also is a public resource.

it has been an important for him for black people. isn't there a role for regulators to play and getting this situation under control? >> absolutely there is. i was just reading an article about the level of hate posts that have been made and the level of his increased, just since elon musk has taken over it is over 200% against the black community alone. that is why they're doesn't need to be regulatory oversight, not only of twitter but of smother social platforms that do not protect what is put out there. particularly, misinformation and that is something that the congress as a whole, and are in the commute committees with jurisdiction need to take up. >> all right, thank you for being with us.

the newly elected chair of the congressional black tongue kiss, representative stephen hawks representative stephen hawks furred of nevada. now to the center side. welcome to the show -- democrat of wisconsin. senator, -- >> great to be with you >> great to have you with us. i want to start with the most pressing issue right now. we mentioned that in just about a day and a half, voters can turn out in person and vote for the senate seat in georgia. the race between incumbent senator raphael warnock and herschel walker. we know that more than 1.8 million georgians, just over a quarter of active voters, cast their ballots during the early voting period that ended friday. of them, more than 76,000 of them say they didn't participate in the 2022 general

election last month. that is according to georgia votes.com. what do you think this race, why do you think this race is so important to georgia, democrats in the senate, into the country? >> well, let's start with the national numbers. we have been working the last two years with a 50/50 senate. we are in the majority only because the vice president of the united states, kamala harris, can come and break ties on issues that only take a simple majority to move forward. it will make a critical difference to have a majority of 51 democrats and 49 republicans. that all is at stake in georgia. not to mention that senator warnock has been an outstanding senator for the people of georgia. i have had the honor of working with him on so many issues, including lowering the cost of

insulin for seniors and trying to close the medicaid gap that stands -- we need him for these fights, georgia needs him. i am hardened by the number of folks who have shown up in the early voting, really proud that they have fought so hard for weekend voting. not this past weekend, but the one before. all of that is making a difference and these numbers are really encouraging to me. i do think that this is -- i think we are going to pull it off. i can't wait to celebrate a victory for senator warnock. >> at this pivotal moment, when the balance -- is being decided. former president trump, who has not been welcome in georgia to campaign for herschel walker,

is calling for a suspension of the u.s. constitution. which is an unusual position to take for a self professed conservative. many political analysts blame trump for republican losses two years ago in the 2020 georgia senate runoffs. does his antics still matter in 2022, under your judgment? >> well, i think whenever a former president says something outrageous as that and certainly should raise a question with everyone about his confidence and certainly, as he dances around with running again in 2024 it shows that he is clearly not confident. the idea of suspending the constitution. the idea of looking backwards and trying to redo of 2020,

again it shows a lack of grip on reality and it is quite disturbing. >> senator, you are the first openly gay politician elected to the senate. you were instrumental in bringing together a bipartisan rule of senators for the passage of this past week of the respect or marriage act. a landmark bill that will establish federal protections for same-sex and interracial marriage. you had 12 republican senators who joined democrats in passing the bill, which will now go back to the house for final passage before it reaches president biden's desk. first, congratulations, but seconds, did you expect an even more -- support to come from your republican colleagues? does this fully codify the constitutional right to marriage equality established by the supreme court in 2015? >> -- so, let me start with the

second question. it is extremely challenging to codify the o bird or failed to fish in that established marriage quality 39 states, because at the time by decision, 35 states in america had -- or i, constitutional amendments or laws that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman or otherwise banning same-sex marriage. it's hard to legislate, at the federal level, and require all those states to change their laws. instead, what we did, was a little more hung bull in the respect for marriage act. its first repeals the defense of marriage act and takes it off the federal books. second, it says that any lawful marriage, if it was lawful when and where it was entered into must be respected by every

other state, regardless of what their constitutional or statutory law looks like. this is not as far as we would want to go, but what we had to do was create some sort of certainty for those who are in interracial marriage or same-sex marriage, should the cases that decided marriage equality or bans on interracial marriage -- should those be overturned. that, of course, was all brought into question with last summer's dobbs decision, overturning nearly 50 years of precedent. overturning roe v. wade and putting all of these other cases which were decided on similar grounds. they are uncertain, because of this dobbs decision. >> now, while i have time. the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection is expected to issue its final report in the

coming days or weeks. sometime before christmas. it is expected to focus heavily on trump's central role in for mentoring the resurrection the committee's hearings that gave americans some times dramatic accounts of what happened on that day. what purpose do you final report will -- serve. >> i hope it will bring a measure of accountability. we all remember that day so vividly. lives were lost. but i brave people in uniform work injury handsome guy and there has to be accountability. i will believe the final report will add a matter of accountability. i'm looking closely to see if there are sort of criminal referrals that are made for the department of justice to pursue,

following the disbanding of the committee. i am sorry that they will be disbanded, because i think they had more work to do. it was very clear that the new majority, the republican majority in the house of representatives next year not only wants to discard their work product but perhaps even investigate them for investigating january 6th. it is astonishing, but that's what i have heard. >> senator tammy baldwin, we thank you for being with us tonight. after the break, georgian voters have their chance to rise up against racism in a big way this tuesday by simply casting their ballots. i will explain why, after the break. later, how trump -- black spiritual leaders about how they plan to get out the vote in the last couple of days before the runoff election. first, my colleague richard louis with today's other top stories. >> richard? >> reverent, good savings

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will head to the polls yet again to decide a runoff election for the u.s. senate. supporters of senator raphael warnock, one of only three black men it in the senate, might be wondering why their candidate is being forced to run for the same office for the fourth time in just two years. the answer goes back to this man, denmark gruber junior during his long career in the georgia senate state legislature, gruver was a segregationist who voted to slap the confederate stars and bars on the georgia state flag in 1956. nearly a century after the civil war was over. in 1964, he hung from the walls

of the state house, literally, trying to stop the clock during a debate over congressional redistricting wherein group or lost the senate race that year and didn't question his campaign or lessons. instead, he blamed black voters for his defeat and set out to undermine their power. so, he wrote a lot georgia's elections to a two rams system, which required one candidate to win a majority of the vote. the racist intent of the plan was no secret. in 1990, the department of justice under a republican president challenged georgia system, citing 35 examples of black candidates who lost to white opponents in runoffs. the u.s. vote foundation calls the law a, quote, vestige of gym crow, unquote.

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two days ahead of tuesday's senate runoff in georgia, black evangelical groups in the state are trying to keep black voters engaged -- one month after the general election. joining me now is the bishop reginald jackson of the african method just a pistol pull church. and shaquille cherry, -- of 1000 women strong. bishops, starting with you. you recently joined 11 of the black clergy in georgia have signing on to -- calling on black voters in your seat to mobilize. your support for a rub raphael warnock made a claim in the document. what do you say to critics who say that the black church leaders are blurring the lines between politics and -- either explicitly supporting senator warnock or by encouraging black voters to vote against walker, when you

clearly stated that you are not speaking for your churches you are speaking individually just telling outreach members to come out and vote? >> the first thing i would do is to tell them to take a look at evangelical preachers across the country who stand in their pool pitch and endorsed people. therefore, they can point out to us where we have crossed a line. without them crossing a line? my thing is, demonstrate it. the second thing is that the black church has always, historically, been in issues of social justice. ministers have the same night as any other citizen to make their own personal endorsement. that is what we do. we make our personal endorsement, not our denomination, not our local church, but our personal endorsement which we have every right to do. >> schiff -- president obama were turned georgia last week to rally for reverend senator warnock,

making his most direct criticisms to date of herschel walker's senate candidacy. judging from your action with black georgia voters, did you get the sense that his presence has worked as a mobilizing force for democratic voters that will be voting on this tuesday? and will be voting for senator warnock? >> so, obama's presidents this past week reinforces the important of black people, black voters engagement and they are commitment to the democratic party. but the reality is that it, in this moment, voters in georgia recognize that the party powder is in their hands and, as you spoke about before the commercial break the messages of racism and jim crow segregation that is helped held back black voters in georgia is rearing its ugly head yet again

and understand that they must show up and show out in order to ensure that our voices heard and democracy is seen in full. no, who voters vote for on tuesdays we will find on election day. we understand where polling trends are happening for black voters, but as the reverend said before it is important for us that we are delivering the communities that we serve. that their voice matters, they go out and vote no matter what. >> talking about delivering for who we serve, bishop, the price of insulin has emerged as a key issue in the runoff. georgia, like many southern states, dealing with high incidents -- incident rates of diabetes, senator warnock has made lowering the cost of insulin one of his core campaign themes. sharing stories of watching his congregants at ebenezer baptist church in atlanta struggle with diabetes and its complications.

introducing legislation to cap insulin prices. legislation which gained bipartisan support in the senate. do you think that this is the kind of issue that will motivate voters to turn out on tuesday? >> you know, reverend, you make an excellent point because the issue is much more than herschel walker's lack of character. it is also the fact that he has no position, no policy, no proposals. senator warnock, to his credit, got through this legislation which casts the price of insulin has $35. there are more than 1 million georgians who are diabetics and need insulin. herschel walker says he opposes that legislation. yet, one of those 1 million georgians supposed to do when the cost of insulin is increasing? he needs to explain why he is against it and what he would do to address the problem. it is not just with the insulin,

it is with a whole host of things. he is opposed to the student loan problem and yet he got a 182 dollar ppp t loan which was written off. why stall right for your loan to be written off, but on a student going through college for the last little bit. he has to address issues. right now he has said nothing about issues. he tells some stories about wearables and guerrillas and whatever. >> shaquille, i want to ask you first while there is still some time. what will these next two days look like for your group and others trying to mobilize black voters after this extended campaign season on this runoff. >> it is just about contacting voters by any means necessary. do or, knocking infamous text messages that everybody is sick of. we are almost there, guys. phones, get out to that people see is visible in communities. at all times of days. when they are dropping kids off

at school tomorrow morning, going out for lunch tomorrow, and when they are going home to remind them how important it is to get out on tuesday and vote and if they have already voted, because we did see record numbers to remind everybody their entire household, entire community, what is on the line and that they must go out and vote. >> bishop, what will the next two days look like from your vantage point? what will look like in georgia? >> well i am very proud of black churches in georgia. we have already contacted thousands of voters in our congregation. we have much more than 1000 churches which are involved over the next two days, we will be doing door-to-door canvassing to hundreds of people around the state. we will also be doing phone banking. and every black church in georgia that we have reached out to will be participating. i am extremely proud because the black church is demonstrating that it still matters and that it still has

some muscle. i am very pleased and i think everybody in our congregation, they are being called to make sure they have voted if they need transportation, we are going to demonstrate that the black church is still very critical of the progress of action in the state and in this country. >> bishop reginald jackson and shakya terry donaldson. i want to say that on a personal note, the morning after the 2020 debate in atlanta, we got a breakfast for clergy that you keno did, bishop jackson. you might want to know that when this documentary movie on you comes out this weekend and, i believe there are seven or eight years in atlanta alone showing it. the sermon that morning is part of it, i had nothing to do with it. i know editorial control but they put it in there. he just might want to know. you might want to chill after tuesday voting and watch yourself.

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analysis on the day's big stories. joining me now is former republican representative for the -- david jolly. and democratic former democratic senator from alabama doug jones. doug, let's start with the new primary -- president biden. it could be ratified by the democratic national committee next year. south carolina would get the first primary spot followed by nevada and new hampshire and then georgia and michigan all before super tuesday. this shakeup, prioritizes states with more diverse electorates. and especially black voters, a group that helped get the biden nomination in 2020. how with this new calendar impact the 2024 democratic primaries and looking down the road, how would that change the party in the years to come? >> you know ralph, thanks for

having me again and number one, i think if joe biden runs again and all -- i don't think it will affect that very much at all because i don't think he is going to be seriously challenged by anyone in the party. but if he doesn't run that is a different story and one would think it would help vice president harris although i think we have to wait and see will run. the fact is, i really think that the idea behind this is a really good one. to get into states and have -- because that is where the democratic party is. but it is at the same time, i do worry about leaving a state like iowa how, leaving our voters across the country. it sends not a really great message at a time when democrats need to be reaching out to those voters as well. not just -- we need to be expanding that base, continue to win elections. >> david republicans voted earlier this year to keep the existing early state lined up for their primaries and if you

have criticize the plan. senator joy hearst called it a quote, middle finger to middle america. when i spoke with republican strategist susan del press show on the program just yesterday, she said that gop could actually -- similar changes to the ones that the democrats are making. what is your take on that? >> yeah, of course, senator ernst gets a pass, she is representing the interests of her home state but what i would tell the senator is that there are planted or of senate -- in the state of south carolina and georgia and nevada. and elsewhere. and what the democrats have actually achieved's diversity, that they did not have in iowa and new hampshire and particularly in communities of color, that are at times the heartbeat of the republican party. i kind of laughed when i saw the democrats do it in realize james clive or will be the most powerful democrat in the entire country, 24 and 28. i do you think republicans

would benefit from this. there is a question of the directions that the republicans want to go in, instead of reaching to a growing diverse electorate across the country, they are downsizing to only their white, evangelical place and frankly it is why you see them become less and less competitive in national elections. >> let's shift now to tuesdays georgia runoff election. more than 76,000 georgians that did not vote in the general election have cast early ballots and historically this could indicate an advantage for democrats. polls have shown warnock with the slightly lead before heading into early voting but this is still a pretty republican state. the gop holds every state -- in georgia. dog, you want to -- as a democrat in the's out so you are familiar with the dynamics here. what is your, what does your

gut say about tuesday? >> oh i think, i really believe that senator warnock, he has shown a tremendous leadership a capability in the united states senate. he is a unique voice in the united states senate and i think he will win the race. clearly, i think he is running against a -- candidate in herschel walker, i think just about everyone recognizes that. but i want to, i don't want to take anything away from raphael warner, he is just a superb candidate and a superb united states senator and he's built coalitions from one end of the state to the other and that is what it takes. and in georgia you we have seen that going over the last ten or 12 years to be able to build -- those beyond just the democrat base. >> david, let's talk about the future states of the georgia election. yes, the democrats will already have a majority in the next senate, but look king ahead to the 2024 senate race, the democrats have asleep steep climb ahead of them.

there will be three senate seats up for grabs in 24 and states that trump won with sizeable margins in 2020. and five seats open in states that biden only narrowly carried in 2020. in other words, isn't it critical for democrats to hold on to this seat as a firewall against potential losses in the next cycle? >> yet it is, you're exactly right. the 2024 map for senate seats is incredibly challenging. so anytime you have a chance to put a point on the board like they do in georgia next week, you want to do that. but i think there will also be lessons from this georgia race, -- use the word coalition, and i think one of the opportunities for democrats to learn, coming out of georgia is that it is not a fight for democrats over you are too progressive or too moderate or something in between, and what is the goldilocks flavor, i think it is actually about coalition building. building a party where everybody can see themselves, that means if you are a

moderate, white, working class evangelical or a heartbeat, progressive from a community of color, building -- big enough to coalesce and say look, we want to move the country forward. what we see in the republican party is a party trying to go backwards, but today's democratic party is a party we can see ourselves in. that is the coalition democrats have in georgia, that is the lesson they can take into 24 despite the challenging map in front of them. >> you know, i am out of time but dog, i have to ask this when david went, talking about back in the past, how do you as someone who was involved in justice, how do you look at former president trump talking about suspending the constitution and re-installing him as president? >> i got no words for that ralph, i mean, that is just something beyond the pale. it should be a disqualifier for him. it also, i think should be evidence of what his attempt

was in january six, he is basically losing at this point, he has lost his support, he is being criticize around the republican party, his -- and he is a desperate attempt, when politicians that have a kind of following like donald trump has gets this desperate, better hang on because we have got to cool this thing out quickly or else it could get really out of hand in the next couple of years. >> all right, well david, you say he is losing some of this from his horror town in new york, i wonder if you ever have it. david and doug jones, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. r! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft, wrinkles don't want to stick around. make mornings smoother with downy wrinkle guard fabric softener. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: make mornings smoother

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