year. it's just so alarming. >> all right, final question to jonathan lemire. >> that's me. your next project "beautiful gains" a netflix film that centers around footballers who travel around to england to rome. >> beautiful game is called about the homeless world cup. it happens every year. 60 nations send a homeless team to the homeless world cup. one of the things about making the movie -- you can laugh, i play the coach of the english team. it's basically me and a bunch of maniacs in rome. all of the other, the japanese team, the canadian team, they've been homeless and they're

rehabilitated and came to be in the movie. it's funny, it's touching, it's moving. it's written by a brilliant man. and the boys are incredible and can actually play football. >> it's a pleasure to have you on the show with us, award winning expert in avoidance. >> he won't watch the clips, though. >> if you want to watch "love actually" with us, we'll help you through it? >> have you ever seen " -- notting hill" -- >> actually, i've seen that, yeah. >> these are the other richard curtis films. i met a woman the other day on the street she said, i joined a choir, they're called choir actually. and this christmas they're performing. >> that's lovely. >> the film "living" is set to be released in the u.s. on december 23rd. it is a pleasure to meet you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for coming

on. it's one minute past the fourth hour of "morning joe." >> every time i hear that, it's like a pain. fourth hour. >> i know. >> and i'll be here every day this week. 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, and 3:00 a.m. on the east coast. a big question, will democrats remain their seat and the senate majority of why. is that important to us. steve kornacki joins us to break down where things stand. plus oil prices rise with opec cuts. we'll break down what that means for the global economy and here at home. and tens of thousands are in the dark in north carolina after police say someone attacked a power substation intentionally. we'll have more on this criminal investigation under way. also ahead, the latest on the murder mystery in idaho. as we hear from the victims'

other two roommates who were there. they were home the night of the attack but were not hurt. but we begin with the election eve in georgia in the runoff race between senator raphael warnock and his republican challenger herschel walker. and 2 million georgians have all right voted. the massive turnout already breaking multiple single-day records, the early voting total expected to rise as absentee ballots come in. let's bring in nbc news national political correspondent steve kornacki over at the big board. steve, what can you tell us as we're counting down to the runoff? >> yeah, it's not kwiept as dramatic as two years ago, almost two years ago, when the control of the that the came down to the majority. herschel walker versus raphael warnock. the democrats have a chance to get to 51, potentially if you want to think long term here

from the democrats' standpoint. they're looking at a rough point at 2024. any pad they can get in terms of their margin can be significant for 2024. it does come down to georgia. the most notable aspect of the preliminary in georgia, there was a disconnect. you see warnock or walker hit 50. libertarian got 4% of the vote. the candidate, republican candidate, did five points better than herschel walker. very comfortable for stacey abrams and the governor's race and yet there were a significant number of voters here comfortable voting republican in the governor's race who were not comfortable doing so in the senate race. some of them voting for the libertarian here, the libertarian candidate in the senate race got three times the

support than the governor's race. some left the ballot blavng or blank or voted for raphael warnock. those voters, do they stay home? do they turn out and if they turn out, where do they go? if you're with walkerer's campaign, one jumped out among independents, walker among among independents, kemp won yong independents one that jumped out in the exit poll is this, the good judgment. they asked this in the senate exit poll, does raphael warnock show good judgment? overall, voters, said yes, he does. and for herschel walker, basically 2 to 1 margin saying no. very high number of independents

and an even not significant number of republicans saying they question that. there was that talk, where was it that caused that disconnect where walker underperformed in the governor's race there kemp, was it the attachment to donald trump, is that part of it? or just the judgment and all of the sort of personal drama that attended the walker campaign. so that's what setting the stage for tomorrow. again, here's how it looked in the preliminary. all warnock needed to be seen, landed the 49, 49.5% of the vote. warnock came in 20,000, 25,000 more votes on election, if he would have gotten 20,000, 25,000 votes, he would have won is outright there wouldn't be a runoff. you'll hear me say this tomorrow night, this is the biggest vote republican counties in georgia. in the country, cherokee county, you're getting into the far northern suburbs, of atlanta

here. walker won this by almost 40 points. to the governor's race, kemp got 72.45. that's the kind of number that wins the race for a republican in georgia. that's the kind of number that's not enough so this is one of these places that we're looking a lot of those i'm describing voted for reference didn't vote for walker. this is the place to see where they go tomorrow. >> steve, you can bring it back to the 63% number. but john heilemann, this is what we were talking to rev about, especially the african american vote in georgia, with all they've seen with herschel walker, leave trump aside, especially with warnock's real aggressive ad campaign, letting herschel walker speak for himself. the sense it's a very

condescending choice for republican in the nominee for senate. and that there may be some -- some voters that just can't find them -- they just can't do it. they just can't do it. >> well, in fact, it's certainly the case that the contours of this race shifted a lot when democrats secured the unites senate. and the race in some sense became less -- had less space attached to it. so, for both sides, but particularly for raphael warnock's side, raising the stakes in the election for the turnout they need to get to win has been one of the main goals. it would have been easy if control of the senate was on the line, now, it wasn't on the line. they had to shift strategy - looking at them and -- >> yeah, and try to focus. i'm curious, steve, whether you think, on the basis of what we know about -- like, the composition of the electorate, obviously, it was a presidential year. the composition of the electorate in 2020, during the presidential election, the

normal election in november, then the composition of the electorate seems to have changed in the runoff. and how that's mirroring what we're seeing in this -- we obviously don't know yet for the runoff here. but what are you seeing in terms -- what difference there might be in terms of who's showing up to vote in this election? how much that matters in terms of how -- what the outcome is going to be. >> oh, it's the big x factor. one of the big surprises in 2020 how much the overall turnout in the general election in 2020, the georgia election that featured biden/trump on the ballot, how close the runoff in the two senate seats actually came to the presidential level turnout. one thing that the democrats successfully did, they increased the african american share. while there was a slight but significant -- this is the 2020 runoff that got warnock elected in the first place, there was a slight but significant dropoff in republican turnout in some of the cooler republican areas, northwest georgia, marjorie

taylor greene district in the state. areas of perhaps trump and everything that he was saying about georgia and its election at that point may have depressed the republican turnout. that was one of the features in the 2020 runoff, democrats are encouraged in terms of increasing african american turnout again for the runoff this time. the question is, on the republican side again, it's only answered once we see the election day votes, you know, it's that republican voter who went out there and voted for brian kemp for governor, gave kemp the convincing victory. does that voter show up tomorrow, vote tomorrow? and if so, does that voter vote for herschel walker in the senate race? because if he's to find a way to reverse that, essentially a point behind, if he's to reverse that, those are the voters. >> steve kornacki, we'll see you tomorrow for the results and whatever happens. both contenders are making their

final positions. it's how do i describe this potential. "the new york times" reports as warnock and walker crisscross georgia over the weekend to deliver their pitches, the candidates have unique messages and styles that have guided their bid since the election. the closing scenes and the candidates' divergent strategies through their election. walker preferred a less visible approach but walker was expected to pick up the speed of his events today with several bus tour stops in the northern rural reaches of the state. warnock is planning to speak in the morning to union workers and georgia tech students. and in the afternoon -- and hold a closing rally in atlanta. let's bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard live in atlanta with much more,

vaughn. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, that's right, he's going to be out in the rural part of the state today. in large part to try to make up for deficits in the greater atlanta area that steve was just laying out. let me be clear, i've been here over the course of the last week and here this weekend, to give you an idea of herschel walker's campaign, let's just go to saturday. the university of georgia bulldogs were playing the s.e.c. championship game against lsu just down the street here in the heart of downtown. and herschel walker, the former bulldog himself, you would think, would be walking around these tailgates here. we were kind of anticipating that ourselves. but instead, what happened is he, the walker team had an rv bus. in which he, only a couple of times, exited the bus. and went right underneath a tent where briefly took part in a photo line with supporters, but far away from the scene, there was no opportunity for questions and he never left the proximity, the safety of that bus area.

he has not talked to nonright-wing press in over a month since october. he's not answered the serious allegations laid out against him here. and quite frankly, his policy speeches have been quite simplistic. to give you an idea, let me just read you part of it from his speech. in fact he said, quote, we have these high gas prices, we have the high grocery prices we have crime in the streets, joe biden and raphael warnock is part of that. we have men and women's sports. this is herschel walker, chair that to the likes of raphael warnock outside of a union hall, led by 28 different unions. they're knocking on doors out here again in the rain. this is -- i think we would argue a historically conservative state but as you guys have just laid out here, yet again, because of the

nominee put forth, the democrats have a shot. at woman who put her name on the record, cheryl persa who was romantic with herschel walker for five years. she tells us about one incident which she alleges he put a hand on her chest and threw a punch, barely missing her. this is a campaign plagued by series of allegations and yet they still have that shot tomorrow. and the republican that could represent the state of georgia in the u.s. senate. >> wow. >> vaughn, certainly allegations like that, with herschel walker dodging media inquiries. his entire candidacy is being a football star. what a gift with georgia to play in a championship game in downtown atlanta and he can't be bothered to actually do campaigning. but that's how herschel walker is ending the campaign. tell us how the warnock camp is

we know they're heartened by the early record turnout. expecting to get more to the polls on tuesday. >> reporter: he was out at the college campus out in athens yesterday. he's going to be at georgia tech later today. he's going to be joined on the campaign trail by the likes of killer mike, jon ossoff has been out here with him. he's focused heavily on what the consequences of having that democratic vote in there with him over the last years. what they have had in the past as a consequence of the runoff result of january 5th of 2021. and he's been out steadily here. making himself available for the press out on the campaign trail. for all intents and purposes, raphael warnock is a clear presence here. and he is trying to capitalize off of the republican nominee here. really whittling away in the final days and trying to if you

can make the case, relying on the likes of governor brian kemp. you turn on the tv, you see more brian kemp on the tv that pro-herschel walker ads, guys. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard live from atlanta. i have a feeling we'll be talking to you again tomorrow. thank you very much. residents in moore county, north carolina, are waking up this morning without power again after what authorities are calling an intentional attack on the area's power grid. nbc news correspondent blayne alexander has the latest. >> reporter: this morning, thousands of people in north carolina are waking up to the second morning of no power after a gunman fired shots at two energy substations saturday evening. those stations provide electricity to tens of thousands of people in moore county. and officials say it could take days. this is being investigated as a criminal act with help from the

fbi to determine who is responsible. >> it appears to be an intentional, willful and malicious act. >> reporter: as officials work to determine a motive, speculation is percolating over whether the vandals targeted the area because of a drag show taking place nearby. planners already worried about potential violence had extra security in place. while officials say there is no direct evidence, they are investigating every possibility. >> i can promise you to the perpetrators out there, we will find you. >> reporter: andrew wilkins is visiting his parents in whispering pines, his family has a generator, but he says for so many of his neighbors this is a shock. >> there is no warning for this. most people don't have a plan for someone, you know, shooting up substations. >> reporter: for many anxious residents it's a desperate measure to leave time as local schools, stores and pharmacies remain closed. now with closed pitch black and temperatures below freezing, the

county has declared a state of emergency and issued a mandatory curfew. >> it is going to be very dark and chilly out tonight. we don't need anybody on the street. >>yne alexander. u.s. hospitals are seeing a post-thanksgiving uptick of covid-19 patients reaching the highest level in three months. according to "the washington post," 35,000 patients were being treated last week. hospitalizations across the country had stagnated throughout autumn. but the rising leading up to thanksgiving. daily new covid hospitalizations are up since the fall. experts warn that holiday gatherings are a prime time for covid-19 to spread. sad news from the world of children's television. actor and accomplished musician

bob mcgrath, widely known for his portrayal of one of the first regular characters on "sesame street" has died at the age of 90. mcgrath's passing was with his family on sunday, a founding cast member of "sesame street" when the show premiered in 1969, mcgrath played friendly neighbor bob johnson. he made his final appearance on the show in 2017. and a surprise on broadway last night at the opening of "a beautiful noise" the neil diamond musical. take a look. [ cheers and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪

♪ when you believe you belong ♪♪ >> that's beautiful. the legendary neil diamond himself surprising the cast and the crowd with impromptu performance of his most endearing hit "sweet caroline." it was the first time the grammy winning artist performed since 2017 when he announced his retirement. "a beautiful noise" continues his run. ♪ so good so good so good ♪♪ >> perfect. i never understood the "a" in that title "beautiful noise" would have worked out as much as "a beautiful noise." >> okay, you're not a beautiful noise right now. let's listen to him. ♪ sweet caroline ♪♪

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it's true, gas prices are on a downward trend, but the question is are they here to stay. nbc news correspondent sam brock

has more on how the fall in fuel prices could easily take a turn. >> reporter: it's hard to find a single staple of the american economy that impacts our collective pocketbooks more than gas prices. which is why, when they fall, it provides a noticeable lift for families. >> big difference. >> reporter: and falling they are, the national average this morning. 3:40 a gallon. that's down about 40 cents from a month ago and more than $1.60 from a peak of 5.02 in the middle of june. eight states are under 8 bucks a gallon. >> national average, $3 a gallon, even under forecast, a potential to happen by christmas. we don't see gas prices fall at a very brink pace. >> reporter: plunging oil and gas prices are being driven in large part by a deepening

recession. and the fragile fall in fuel prices could easily take a turn. starting today, the european union putting a price cap on oil at $60 a barrel. >> what is the impact of the eu, only buying russian oil at this price point or less? >> it's significant that the eu is coming together to make this fairly significant agreement and a risk potentially back firing, russia could simply choose to stop exporting oil. so this is kind of a high-stakes game here. >> reporter: at the same time, there's at arrival of cold weather, americans are likely paying in the neighborhood of 50% to 100% more. >> absurd, from a $90 bill a month to 360 some odd dollars. >> reporter: the good news, it could be worse with many utility companies locking in much of their petroleum supplies when

rates were lower and natural resources of gas still robust. >> nbc's sam brock with that report. let's bring in the co-anchor of cnbc's "squawk box" with andrew ross sorkin if you could add more to the trend and gas prices and where's it going. >> i actually think the biggest piece of this is not what's happening in russia today, it's actually what's happening in china and what's to happen in the next three to six months, which is to say, as you watch china open up and virtually eliminate what looks like that covid policy. it means people are going to get sick in china, but also means, economically, that demand, therefore is going to go down. that means that the price of oil is likely to go down in the short term. but there's a longer term question on the other side of that, as we've seen around the world, frankly, that when the world and the economies sort of resume, that then there's a supply and demand shock on the other side. so short-term, oil prices

actually may be low, artificially low in some cases. longer term, there's a real question now. >> all right. while we're on china, apple looking to cut production from china. implications? >> look, the big implication right now is that you see, there's not to dabble. this is a lot of companies that are looking at what's happening in china. looking at the unrest. the uneasiness. all of these cross-currents, human rights and issues and other thing has, though they're not citing that. but in terms of what was a very close relationship for a very long time, we talked about the idea of globalization and what connecting these economies would mean. and i think what you're starting to see is that is moving apart. and i think that apple which made a huge dent in china. almost to bet the farm in china, is saying, you know what, maybe we need to diversify a little bit. so that we have our eggs in a couple of baskets as opposed to one. that's a big move for apple. >> and while we're on apple,

apple and amazon looking to resume advertising only twitter. why? >> mika, i want to know what you think of this, last week -- let's put some context on this -- last week, had you elon musk effectively go to battle with apple because he thought that apple was coming down in terms what was on the app, whether they were censoring that, you saw him state that online. he started to attack the 30% tax. the commission they take on app sales. immediately tim cook calls him and invited him to apple's campus. in the coming days that became the largest advertiser again. now the cynics would say that apple effectively is buying his silence. there's almost something trumpian about this. if you attack a company long enough and loud enough, perhaps the company said, you know what, actually, i need that to go away

immediately. i also think there's a lot of people in silicon valley, i know we've debated this, are rooting for him. i did this interview last week, typically a democrat and a liberal progressive who was vociferous in his support for elon musk. there's clearly a lot more elements than just apple decide if the audience is there. >> whether it's elon musk, tim apple, mark zuckerberg. >> can i ask andrew ross sorkin a question? >> yeah. >> hey, andrew, i wanted to congratulate you. i didn't have a chance to weigh in on your sam bankman-fried. someone called it effortless. you made incredible news with

that. >> appreciate it. >> and the guy who is the ceo of coinbase. >> coinbase, yes. >> came out -- another crypto company for those that don't know, he came out at the end of the week saying it's baffling that sam bankman-fried isn't that jail already. and bizarre that the media isn't calling him ail criminal. i wonder what your take on that, if the next shoe is intending to drop. and whether awe agree, why aren't we calling him a criminal? >> look, a., i would say just on the criminality piece, a lot of the questions that were asked during that interview were about criminality and quite directly. >> yeah. >> but to the piece that brian armstrong is referencing, the department of justice is investigating this literally was we take. the doj would be a criminal issue and my understanding in terms of that investigation,

we're still just three weeks out from the bankruptcy. they're collecting emails, they're collecting text messages. it's not just about collecting those from sam bankman-fried, but likely, if there's a case to be built, by talking to all of the people in and around sam bankman-fried, that takes some semblance of time because i imagine, they would like to -- if they're going to prosecute, they want to find somebody to effectively turn on him. the other issue is that this is a case -- this is a company that is based in the bahamas. if it had been regulated like a typical financial services company in the united states this might be a very, very clear case. i'm not saying it's not a clear case but the rules of what constitutes fraud in the bahamas, what constitutes fraud in the u.s. may very well be different and we'll see how it plays out. >> it's easy to see in the bahamas, the rules are somewhat different. >> cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much. see you tomorrow. >> thanks.

there are still unanswered questions in idaho about the murders of four students at a public college last month amid conflicting police reports and stalled police. nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk has the latest. >> reporter: as snow blankets the crime scene in moscow, idaho, fears are mounting in the community that the case, too, is growing cold. the hunt for the killer who stabbed four college students to death in their beds november 14th is now entering its fourth week. for the third time this weekend we heard from the victims' two roommates who were at home but not hurt. a pastor reading a lady from dylan mortonson. >> my life was greatly impacted to have known these four beautiful people. people who changed my life. >> and a letter from bethany. >> they all lit up any room they walked into and were gifts to this world. >> moscow police say the two young women are not considered suspects.

authorities recently clarifying that the attack was targeted but have not concluded whether a specific victim was the target or the house in general. they are vowing to get to the bottom of the crime. >> they're putting the pieces together, i think when that picture is done, i think we'll have a real clear definition of what occurred and where to go. >> but with no answer, the heartbreak remains raw for kaylee goncalves, mad dimogen ethan chapin and xana kernodle. her father speaking out. >> the points of damage don't match. >> which would seem to indicate that one of the girls suffered different kinds of stab wounds. these are the kinds of things that would be distinctive and indicate, and perhaps establish the police by the police that it was a targeted attack. >> on the campus of university of idaho, a somber semester is

moving forward with only one-third of students returning to school after the thanksgiving break. >> people are really on eggshells, should i be leaving the community? is there a mad man on the loose? >> nbc's stephanie gosk with that report. still ahead on "morning joe," the executive director of "time" joins the table to reveal the 2022 person of the year. remember, it's for better or for worse. "morning joe" is coming right back. ing right back ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ ever wonder why they call it the american dream... and not the american goal? the joy of movement. announcer: derek jeter ...or plan? maybe... it's because in dreams, you can do anything. in dreams... you can hold your entire world in the palm of your hand.

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washington, d.c. to ask the senate to ban assault weapons. they will be joined by those whose lives were upended by mass shootings across the country. the "san francisco chronicle" covers the drop in home prices in california. in the san francisco area, prices are expected to plunge nearly 4% in the next year. meanwhile, statewide prices are expected to fall 9%. high interest rates and factors are a main factor why prices are expected to continue to drop over the next year, according to experts. and finally, in california, the napa valley register leads with how the pandemic has changed church services. a local poll finds more than 1 in 3 residents are not going to their spiritual centers as often as they did before the pandemic. more people continue to worship online. or have stopped attending altogether. the shift is forcing the bay area's religious institutions to

re-evaluate their roles as they struggle to adapt to the new needs of their congregations. and before we go to our next guest, you were just looking at some news out of russia. >> yeah. we talked earlier today about how the ukrainians seemingly have hit targets within russia. this morning, russian strikes within ukraine. and just now, you'll recall the bridge to crimea. >> yeah. >> for the ukrainians to up has been repaired. vladimir putin drove across it into crimea which would be his statement of defiance. but also his first venture in ukrainian territory that they claim -- >> they claim they got back. >> since the war began. >> wow, we'll be watching that. as 2022 winds down we're beginning to reflect on the year that was. that revealing the annual revealing of "times's" person of the year. last year it was elon musk. who now looks to join former president richard nixon to win

the award in consecutive years. joining us now for the person of the year finalist, executive ben goldsberg. we've been giving ben problems here. we think some are placeholders. john heilemann, take the first question for ben. i think some of them are placeholders. >> ben, would you like to explain -- just explain the nature of the short list. >> yeah, that's good. >> what is the short list? >> this makes sense, xi jinping. this makes sense, the u.s. supreme court. this could make sense, elon musk. liz cheney, volodymyr zelenskyy makes sense. mackenzie scott, protesters in iran make sense. ron desantis makes no sense to me. gun safety advocates -- >> in any -- in general --

>> yeah, by the way that was a blanket statement. but, no, this is -- >> janet yellen, does she make sense to you? >> no. no. although amazing. should we let that talk, i don't know? no, listen, who's really the short list here? >> this is the short list. as we start the process of person of the year, summer gives way to fall, we have a huge staffwide meeting and the goal is to take stock in influence across all of the forms across all different types of newsmakers -- >> negative or positive. >> well, i'm glad you said that in your setup. >> yes. >> it's often forgotten person of the year is for influence, whether good or ill. >> why not putin on the short list? >> that's a really good question. despite what you were saying, jonathan, putin's encouragement into crimea, if anything, he may

be one of the world's primary aggressors but his influence has distinguished. they were supposed to capture, what, kyiv, in three days? now, it's now a year. >> let's take the other side of that coin. >> go ahead. >> let's take the other side of that coin and say -- >> invading the country is pretty insignificant. >> no question there. how is it not going to be president zelenskyy, who is someone we know the story, comedian, television actor because there was expectation that the war would be over in a matter of days, people forget, back in january and february, there were plans to get him out of the country. instead, he stood there, he's a churchillian performer. and the revitalization of the person alliance. how is it not volodymyr zelenskyy? >> you frame the choice for him very well, thank you. because there's tremendous

influence among these other folks. we talked about g. briefly in that in october, hes was elevated for a third team. the most popular leader, ironclad grip, facing really, really serious dissent over his covid policy around the world. >> just the short list, short list, ten entries, that's not a very short list. >> that's not a short list. >> that's a long list. >> and ron desantis -- >> ron desantis, make him explain ron desantis. >> i can't. >> i don't mean existentially, i mean there. >> i can't on desantis. his presence on the list is because he won re-election on a massive landslide. and the former constituent is on

the cusp of really being the front-runner for the republican nomination. >> so, zelenskyy is about -- is on the cusp of winning the largest land war in europe against a country ten times its size. >> uh-huh. >> that's the victory he has in his sights. ron desantis won miami-dade county. those are kind of the parallels. in terms of influence, those are the kinds of things we're thinking about. >> miami-dade, i don't want to dismiss miami-dade. >> go ahead. >> this is my 17th year of leading person of the year, we do a lot of apples and oranges. >> that's more like apples and a watermelon. >> are you coming back? >> yes. >> okay, good. we give you a lot of trouble here. you do a good job, ben. >> well -- >> until we see who wins, okay. >> ben goldberger, thank you very much. we'll find out who the magazine names as the 2022 person of the year on wednesday.

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>> so the original intent of the film was to follow the last u.s. deployment, a group of green berets on the last deployment to afghanistan, and two months into filming president biden pulled out our troops and, you know, i was like i don't think we had a film. at the beginning of the film, we had the first act of the film, but clearly this story was not over. so the green berets had been working with general sami sadat who was in charge of southern afghanistan. i reached out to him and said, look, can we come back and film with you and see the end of the war, if there's an end to the war through your eyes. he said yes. he is a young 35-year-old general with, you know, basically the weight of the world on his shoulders, trying to hold his country together. >> what did you find when you decided to just keep going and figure out what the end of this story is? >> i mean it wasn't a fait accompli when we started filming that the afghan army would lose.

as time went on it became clear it was the likely outcome. to some degree the narrative tension of the film is every metaphorical neon sign was saying, stop, give up, surrender, this is all over. until the very end he had this unwavering belief maybe, just maybe if he held on to southern afghanistan that the country could hold together. obviously that didn't pan out. >> can you characterize for us whether it was this general, others you spoke to there, their attitudes towards the americans who had been there for so long, partnered with them for 20 years and left somewhat abruptly, we saw the scenes of chaos and violence that followed. was there a sense of betrayal, what did you see? >> definitely a sense of abandonment. there's a million reasons why the afghan army lost to the taliban. one of them was definitely a loss of morale. when the u.s. left there was a huge loss of morale and that's a

big part of what this film shows, is general sadat trying to rally his troops, trying to rally the towns people, trying to rally the elders that they could win because there's, you know, definitely a lack of faith after biden pulled out our troops. >> so this documentary is widely acclaimed. how did it change you? you have played so many roles in pulling it together, a one-man band almost in a way. i'm curious about your own reflections from the experience. >> i think all of these films change you to some degree. certainly this was many life-or-death situations, blackhawk helicopters getting shot at by the taliban, many sad and tragic situations at the airport in the final days as thousands of afghan civilians were desperately trying to flee. i think what i tried to do in my career and certainly with this

film is take huge amor fuss subjects and try to put a human face to them. it is easy to feel these conflicts are so distant and far away. i feel it is my goal to try to create an empathetic connection, to make you feel like, well, what if that was me, what if it was my brother, my cousin or my sister? certainly the war in afghanistan feels like a distant story. the war in ukraine has usurped so much of the oxygen in international news and i hope that the film, amongst other things, reignites a conversation about this, you know, longest war in u.s. history and how we left this country behind. >> the new documentary "retrograde" appears on "national geographic" channel on december 8th, streams on disney plus on december 9th, and on hugh lie december 11th. matthew heineman, thank you for sharing it with us. we appreciate it. thats do it for us this morning.

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