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finish. in georgia, the candidates in one of the most expensive senate races in american history are appealing to voters for the last time. >> we gotta get in the game. we can't sit on the sideline anymore. >> this race is not even about republican versus democrat, red versus blue, right versus left. it's right versus wrong. >> will democrats break the senate tie and re-elect raphael warnock? will republicans stand by the controversial celebrity football star backed by donald trump? top political experts breaking it all down. senate republicans sound off against former president trump's talk of terminating the constitution, a week after many denounced him for dining with known anti-semite and the rapper previously known as the rapper kanye west. >> when president trump wants to suspend the constitution, he
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goes from being maga to being rhino. we are the constitution party. a live report from ukraine as new drone strikes deep inside russia put pressure on vladimir putin. russia's artillery striking back. more on the breaking news from capitol hill. chairman bennie thompson telling reporters, there will be criminal referrals from the january 6 committee in the weeks ahead to the justice department. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. after more than a year of campaigns and an expenditure of 400 million plus dollars, voters in georgia are back at the polls for one last time today. at stake, whether democrats will have a clear senate majority or be stuck in the 50/50 split that
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gave the republican party equal seats on all committees and the ability to delay key votes. joining me now, steve kornacki at the big board, vaughan hillyard and here with me in washington, kristin welker. and mark murray. steve, take us through what we should be watching for tonight and what the runoff electorate in georgia may be telling us about what to expect today. >> the backdrop for tonight, here is the general election result back in november. warnock did finish a point ahead of herschel walker. warnock was about a little more than 20,000 more votes, if he picked up a little bit more than 20,000 more, we wouldn't be in the runoff. he would have cleared 50%. from that, what warnock comes into today with a bit of an advantage and democrats have felt very good about what they have seen in terms of the early vote, in terms of demographics
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of early vote. if there was one area where democrats lagged behind expectations in november, it was turnout of black voters. you have seen in some of the data for early vote, democrats may be improving the share of turnout among african american voters. that could help their chances as well. i think what's most striking about november and what creates the biggest question mark for tonight is, this herschel walker result, finishing a point behind warnock in november, that was the exception to the rule in georgia when it came to how republicans fared in statewide races. brian kemp in november had no problem winning statewide. he won by eight points. republicans won a bunch of statewide offices. no problem. walker was the only republican who didn't win and actually finished behind the democrat at the statewide level there. there was a significant number of voters who voted republican in the governor race, in the secretary of state race, voted republican in other races who were not comfortable casting
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ballots for herschel walker in the senate race. i think one of the key variables that looms, democrats feel they have done a lot of good work in terms of getting voters out in the early voting period. one of the key variables is, what's the turnout like in some of the core republican areas of the state? i'm talking in particular, when you look for the big population, you look at the outer atlanta metro area. just outside this big batch of blue counties, you will get a cherokee county, these produce giant pluralities for republican candidates. these are places that walker won in november but he didn't win by the same kind of margin that brian kemp won by. that's the big variable here. those republican voters, those folks who voted for brian kemp but didn't vote for herschel walker, do they show up today? do they stay home today? if they do show up today, do they this time turn around and vote for herschel walker or do they show up today and vote for
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raphael warnock? the walker campaign hopes -- they have been campaigning with governor kemp. they have been tethered together more here than they were in the general election. they hope that will make the difference. that's what is striking. look back at the november general election, the preliminary for the senate, that's what's striking. on paper, this was an electorate that could have elect aid republican senator. joe biden's approval rating in november in georgia was 41%. republicans won the other statewide offices. there were specific doubts and reservations when it came to herschel walker, that's the conclusion from november. has he erased those doubts between then and now? >> thanks so much, steve kornacki. we will be watching all day and tonight. vaughan, what are the expectations when herschel walker was facing controversy and the republican party was trying to make him more acceptable to those doubters and you came out with a report just
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in the last couple of days with another woman coming forward who had a five-year relationship with him and claimed with some credible corroboration, which is why you aired it, that he was abusive to her. does that have an impact? >> reporter: that's the question, whether those very voters, those voters, the folks that voted for the libertarian candidate that steve was outlining, will they come out today? there's been little value add that walker is trying to say to voters. it has been additional allegations, including the woman who we spoke with, who outlined an allegation of a physical assault when they were together over the course of their five-year relationship. there has been not necessarily any good news for herschel walker ever since the general election took place at a time in which he needs to close that 38,000 vote gap. when we are looking at that turnout question that steve was
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outlining, it was the democrats who were encouraged by what they saw, particularly the democratic counties where they needed to really bulk up and add cushio ahead of election day. look where we are. we are at one particular polling place in the heart of fulton county which was the county that includes atlanta that went three to one for the likes of raphael warnock over walker one month ago. what you see today are few voters. i was talking to a worker at this voting location who said they just had 125 folks come in to vote here in the first four hours since the polls opened here. she goes by contrast, she worked early voting last week and they had thousands of folks that came out to the early voting center. she said at one point on friday, the last day of early voting, they had 2 1/2 hour lines, which is what democrats were expecting. they need it. now the question is, is the likes of herschel walker, particularly in the rural parts
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of the state, is he able to make up the early vote turnout that raphael warnock was able to secure over the course of the week and a half of early voting? that's what we are looking at in the next hours ahead. >> vaughan, they can't rest on that early voting, as good as those margins may have been. they need election day voters. from what i'm looking at behind you, they're not getting them, at least in that part of fulton county. quick question, vaughan, before we let you go. the weather right now, it doesn't seem to be a factor. was it raining earlier? is it going to rain later? >> reporter: no, it's been 50 degrees here throughout the course of the morning so far. unlike yesterday, when it was downpouring throughout the day, it's just been mist here. weather should not be a factor if they don't pull off a good election day turnout. >> vaughan hillyard, thanks so much. kristin welker and mark murray, let's drill down a little bit. you had the big interview with herschel walker a couple of weeks ago, which was a low point after all of the allegations about paying for abortions for
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two women, actually. he denied that, of course. he has been resilient since. they seem to have controlled him a lot better in the sense that he is not taking questions from any reporters. they keep him 20 feet away from anybody who could shout a question. >> that's right. what we have seen from herschel walker from the very beginning, andrea, including when he was at that low point facing those allegations from two women saying he paid for their abortions, and he is a staunch anti-abortion advocate, is that he has taken a page out of the trump playbook. he dismissed the allegations, denied them. the latest allegation, the interview vaughan did, his reporting, the walker campaign really hasn't engaged with. as you say, he hasn't been taking questions. the question is, will that work? will that be enough to get him over the finish line? this race is close. for all of the reasons that vaughan lays out, early voter turnout which seems to case a
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strong turnout for democrats, will he be able to make that up? that's a real question mark. he has not been campaigning with former president trump. he didn't do that during the first race. of course, you have raphael warnock who has not been campaigning with joe biden. president biden in arizona today. keeping a distance from the standard bearers. >> when you look at the republican rural counties, is this going to make the difference? can herschel walker do it? >> steve really laid it out well. herschel walker was the outlier in the general election. he ended up underperforming brian kemp, brad raffensperger. one thing that they had in common that was different than herschel walker was, they stood up to donald trump. they defeated donald trump in their home of georgia. herschel walker has been aligned with the former president,
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donald trump. donald trump picked him out of a host of other republicans. i think the question that i have going forward, we look at turnout, are the republican voters that we saw voting for brian kemp and for brad raffensperger, who skipped the senate race or ended up voting for raphael warnock, do they show up? to me, that's the difference between herschel walker possibly pulling off an upset or him losing. >> do you think democrats would find it surprising and troubling that there have been so few people in the fulton county stronghold that vaughan was at? >> the pattern is that democrats, by and large, are early voters. either in person, like you see in georgia, or by mail. republicans wait to the last second to vote. not only am i interested in, how is the turnout in places like fulton, i'm really interested to see, what do the precincts look
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like in forsythe county? looking at the rural turn outis the whole ball game. >> if i could add one more quick note. democrats have felt confident. they feel like they have the momentum. one of the unknowns, were they over confident? that's one of the big things we will watch. >> they didn't leave much on the table. >> they certainly did not. >> they outspent them. they brought in barack obama. maybe he could have come in earlier. >> they have made an effort to try to energize young voters. they had maxwell frost. you are right about that. the question is, what does today look like? >> that's why we love election day. thanks so much. criminal referrals. breaking news today from the
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>> joining me now, garrett haake and former u.s. attorney harry lipman. garrett, what do we know about the criminal referrals? what are you hearing about what's most likely when they come out of the meeting today? >> reporter: andrea, chairman thompson is now in two separate encounters with reporters, repeatedly said the committee made a decision to issue at least some referrals. the committee is out with a statement that they should pursue some referrals, should be considered is the language the committee's unsigned statement uses. the chairman is saying this has been decided. at least one referral will be made. this should not be a shock to anyone who followed the committee's work as we have on
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this network. the committee has leaned towards this idea of referrals. liz cheney has repeatedly quoted from u.s. statute and criminal code in some of her statements during the committee's hearings, major televised hearings and in others. there's more discussion to be done today. other committee members said this is something they will talk about today. they want to finalize whatever decision they're going to make about whom and when and how many referrals they might do. thompson's comments, which he has been given every opportunity to walk back or clarify, are that the committee has made this decision and that they will move forward on at least one of the referrals. >> what does it mean? it goes to doj. they can do with it what they want. we have seen how they have ignored some of them. >> that's right. i also heard that they made decisions on criminal referrals. it's from the department of justice's perspective, it's not
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that huge a deal. merrick garland says he will be guidd by what they had to say. congress is the victim. doj takes it more seriously. if they were to make a referral on donald trump, it would be a shot heard around the world. i don't think it would change the department's overall investigation and the way of going about it. a couple snippets. something to keep in mind on the perjury point that he said was in play. they specifically put people forward who were going to say good things. we heard just the tip of the iceberg. perjury, if it occurred, would have been behind the scenes, someone like, say, dan ornato seems to be a culprit. when you think about the subcommittee hear, who made the recommendations, raskin, schiff, cheney, it seems to me, even
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though it's the number one thunderbolt, i can't see them making a referral that doesn't include donald trump. >> garrett, let me talk about the hundreds of police officers who defended the capitol during the insurrection. they received congress' highest honor, the congressional gold medal. talk about the significance of the gold medals. >> reporter: it's a reminder of the gratitude that everyone in the capitol community, reporters and myself included, have towards these officers from the capitol police and the d.c. metropolitan police who responded on that day and were able to secure the capitol before the night was over and let congress continue with their work. this ceremony was voted on back in june of last year. it takes about this long to mint the medals and prepare the ceremony. it was a bipartisan vote, but not every house republican did vote in favor of the ceremony. a very emotional day here today. speaker pelosi captured some of
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that in her remarks. >> january 6 was a day of horror and heartbreak. it is also a moment of extraordinary heroism. it is my honor to present the congressional gold medal to the united states capitol police, the metropolitan police and every hero of january 6 from every agent that responded that day. >> reporter: an emotional ceremony, a significant ceremony. there were tears in the audience, according to our pool producers in the room. this could be the final january 6 remembrance, for the near term, with the 6th a month ahead for next year, there's been no announced plans for any remembrance or ceremony on this second anniversary. perhaps one final opportunity to thank the officers involved for their heroism on that day before a new congress perhaps turns the page on that moment. >> this was bipartisan.
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you had the leaders mcconnell and mccarthy, of course, both there as well and speaking. we can't thank those officers enough. many of them are still suffering from the effects of their injuries, emotional as well as physical. garrett haake, harry lipman, we should also mention those we lost, the officers who died as a result of that horrific day. tens of thousands of north korea -- north carolina residents are without power. the fbi and local authorities investigate an intentional attack on an electric substation. blayne alexander is in north carolina. this morning president biden said he has been briefed on the attack. what is the latest from what you are hearing down there about the investigation? how are people holding up? >> reporter: andrea, when you talk about the power. when will the power come back on? there are more than 30,000
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people in the dark today for the third straight day. i spoke with a representative from duke energy. they expect to see a few thousand more people come online today. the vast majority are still going to be in the dark until sometime thursday. as for how they are holding up, good news, temperatures are climbing a little bit. we started in the low 30s this week. we are in the 40s now. that's good news. the sheriff tells me he is concerned about the fact that traffic lights are out, they had reports of people trying to break into stores. all of those are things they are trying to mitigate as they get the power back up. as for the investigation itself, i just spoke with somebody who is part of the investigation with the sheriff's office. he tells me that one really unique factor in all of this is the level of knowledge that somebody would have to have in order to carry out a crime like this. he reiterated that whoever did this knew what they were doing, knew what they had to target at those substations in order to take out this power. he says because of that, that makes this investigation even more sensitive. they are keeping a lot of the information very close because
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of what that means. of course, it's raising a number of questions just about the security of critical infrastructure, not just here but around the country, when you talk about these power grids. i asked a representative from duke energy, how was somebody able to access this so easily? he says, they are regulated, the security does meet industry standard. but they are going to take a closer look at the security protocols in the wake of this. >> blayne alexander, thanks to you. back-pedaling. donald trump trying to walk back his widely condemned comments about terminating the u.s. constitution which republicans are now taking a stand about coming up. that's next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. my most important kitchen tool? my brain.
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donald trump is backtracking and blaming the media for what he calls misreporting his comments concerning his call to terminate the constitution after falsely suggesting there was voter fraud in the 2020 election, as if that, even if it happened, would justify terminating the constitution. on capitol hillmond ay, republicans criticized the former president's comments but
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stopped short of saying that would disqualify him from a white house run in 2024. >> joining us now, ashley parker and charlie sykes, editor at the bulwark. ashley, it's not as though he apologized. he didn't take it back. he just blamed the media and said that he never said it. but he had said it. he had written it.
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he is still obsessed with 2020. >> this is a pattern with the former president. right? he says something, whether he tweets it, now he puts it on truth social, he says it on a rally stage, and occasionally, he faces blow back for which he is unprepared and a little startled. then he basically claims he did not say the thing that he very clearly said, that you can watch him say on the video, that you can see him say in his truth social post. that's what we have in this instance. even in his duo of walk backs, he claims the media is lying. also in a second tweet reiterates the same thing just about saying, either the election should be handed to me or we should rerun the election. it's not an apology. it's the most unapologetic, disingenuous walk back one can
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imagine. >> you note in the past two weeks, trump pledged solidarity with january 6 rioters. he died with two holocaust deniers. and yet republicans are not criticizing him directly. cornyn is equivocating on whether he's a candidate. you have to take him at his word, he is a candidate. he declared his candidacy. >> once again, we are learning there's no red line for the republican party, even those who are appalled by his call to terminate the constitution are not willing to say his name and not willing to say it's disqualifying, that he should never be returned to power in the oval office. to ashley's point, this is not an apology. it is not close to an apology. he is not back-pedaling. donald trump is lying. he is lying about lying. what you see there is a classic
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case of gaslighting. we know what he said. he is now saying, what are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? this is a pattern of a man who honestly believes that he can throw anything against the wall and somehow it will stick or that he can change the subject and that his loyal cult will go along with it. if there was anything remotely close to a bride line, it is the former president of the united states saying that the laws and the rules and articles of the constitution should be terminated in order to restore him to the presidency. there's nothing unclear about that. there is nothing unambiguous about that. i don't think we should refer to ted cruz as constitution loving if he is not willing to stand up and defend the actual constitution. >> fair point there. also, if you look at it, the former president of the united
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states, who has been accused, not charged but accused in the january 6 testimony of trying to break the law in order to hold on to office when he was not re-elected is kind of confessing here because he is saying it's justifiable, in his post, if you believe there's election fraud to violate the constitution. i want to take a moment of personal privilege. i want to fact check what the former president wrote on truth social. my interview with the national intelligence directioner. mr. trump is falsely claiming she views the mar-a-lago documents investigation is a joke. i know you can't talk about the investigation into mar-a-lago. if somebody in the intelligence community took home documents, classified documents, and then resisted turning them back, what
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would be the impact? >> andrea -- yeah. please don't do that. >> the laughter from the audience as well as the director was over me pressing her to try to answer something that she didn't want to answer about an ongoing investigation, which is a very serious investigation. there's no doubt that she takes taking classified documents seriously. they are doing an ongoing assessment as to what the damage was to national security. the other point was he talked about the laughter of the studio audience. the studio audience was a gathering of leading generals and other defense officials as well as people from the defense industry and military and intelligence experts.
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the reagan national defense forum. ashley? >> that's right. you put what trump said about that in context. i think it's key for all of us. i am old enough to remember covering the tea party movement, which was a republican movement where you would go down and these would be republican candidates, republican voters who were all carrying around a pocket constitution that they wanted to show to you, because they believed it was so important. i am old enough to remember when republicans, many refusing to outright condemn trump, were furious with former president obama for using executive actions, which they could disagree, is within one's authority as a president. they began calling him king obama for daring to use an executive action on something like immigration. these same people would be
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absolutely crazy if the democrats tried to do what the former president did and not relinquish the presidency. what you are seeing here -- which we have seen for a while, during trump's presidency, is the way he has exposed or treated hypocrisy in his party. >> if he were to be re-elected, i think he would take an oath to defend the constitution of the united states, charlie. >> yeah. also i think it's important to point out that this statement, calling for the termination of the constitution, is on a piece with many of his other actions, including january 6, and is his constant display of contempt for the rule of law. to that final point, how do you take an oath, the oath of office to uphold and defend the
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unprepared. we know he is unqualified. it gives me no pleasure to say this, but as a preacher, i'm in the business of truth telling. he is unfit to represent the people of georgia in the united states senate. [ applause ] >> you gotta get out and vote. if you don't vote, you are going to get more chuck schumer and president biden. senator warnock has shown he is going to vote with them. >> joining me now, robert gibbs, white house correspondent eugene daniels and democratic strategist tom bonyer, ceo of target smart. tom, you first, on the data. what are you seeing in the modelling from the early voting? who is coming out more, as you would expect, democrats turn out more on early voting? >> that's interesting. as you say, we would expect democrats have an advantage. we saw that in the november general election where democrats had a big advantage. our model was about eight points
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more democratic. in this runoff, even with this compressed time period, it has become more democratic. we are modelling it plus 13. you have seen a five-point bump for democrats, even though it's a smaller number of people voting early. >> what about the youth vote? there had been some concern among democrats and some lops from republicans that young people are not turning out as they might have. >> when we look at the work both candidates need to do, even though the walker campaign has a steeper hill to climb, democrats, senator warnock's campaign are looking at today and counting on the youth vote to make up for some of the numbers that have been slightly behind in the early vote. >> robert gibbs, when you look at this today, what are you hearing from georgia? what do you think is happening? it's notable that the two part leaders, president biden and donald trump, were not physically there. they were remotely doing calls and doing a remote rally, but neither of them, because of
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their lack of popularity with certain constituencies, neither were able to go. >> yeah. i think a lot of us have been refreshing the twitter feed of tom to figure out how he is modelling georgia. i do think there's a sense of confidence among most democrats about the outcome that they think will happen later tonight. i think for democrats, it's important because there's a practical, a political and a psychological impact to this race. practical is to control the apparatus of the senate. not having it be 50/50 and not having the committee structure 50/50. politically, georgia is a really important state for 2024 and it's a really important state for democrats in the future and for the future of the democratic party. psychologically, this is going to give -- could give democrats momentum heading into 2023 and 2024 with a little wind at their back. it's a huge night for democrats. i think many are going into
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today feeling confident but needs to see that election day vote come out. >> exactly. i don't know if you saw vaughan earlier. there was nobody behind him. they said only about 125 people had turned out all day. we are hours into the turning today. the weather was fine. eugene, "the washington post" is pointing out today that the georgia runoff system was created by segregationist denver groover to dilute the black vote. how is it being felt today? >> this is something when you talk to activists, advocates and strategists on the ground in georgia, which i did earlier this year, they bring this up a lot. they talk about how it's kind of a pronounced system and the historic way that segregation dismantled and took away the power of black votes in the
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south. they feel that in georgia forever. they point to this as georgia using this process that was -- groover said and admitted was intended to make sure black people's vote was suppressed. they point to that as something they should get rid of it in that state. it's something that doesn't seem like georgia -- the leaders in georgia want to get rid of. it's something people feel. i will say, republicans are also feeling less confident about georgia than they were. robert talks about democrats feeling good. republicans are feeling less good. i talked to quite a few of them over the last few days who i talked to before the runoff started. they felt good about their chances. they felt good about a runoff going to walker. they don't feel that way anymore. that does tell you something about the things that people are seeing on the ground. >> robert, you talked about
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2024. one factor there is the senate map is terrible for the democrats the next time around in 2024. you've got west virginia, montana, ohio seats up that are going to be hard to hold. it would be critical if they could hold this seat. right? >> absolutely. grabbing as many seats ahead of the '24 cycle is really important. look, i think it would prove again that georgia truly is a purple state, which is important for democrats going forward. we know already that the biden administration and president biden want to push georgia forward into the early nominating process. tonight cements that for a place like georgia in a way that has taken over north carolina. >> didn't the secretary of state in georgia kind of put the
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squash on georgia moving up? is that going to be hard to pull off? >> it certainly will. i think psychologically, having georgia that far ahead and having democrats think of georgia as that important of a state i think is still a big deal. >> tom, are you going to be looking tonight at these rural counties like cherokee and forsythe and whether walker can run up the vote there? >> yeah. as a viewing tip, that's what i will look at. those are the counties that count fast. if you see that walker is running behind his percent from november, he is in big trouble. >> that's a great tip. thank you so much. that's why we love talking to you and gibbs and eugene daniels. thanks so much. we will be watching tonight. remember that friendly place where everyone knows your name and they are always glad you came? "cheers" of course. cheers lost its leading lady. kirstie alley best known in her
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these demonstrate the vulnerability of the sites. and also that if it is ukraine, they are getting more aggressive about striking deeper into russia. what about these drone strikes? >> it's pretty significant from the ukrainian side of things. we're talking different days of drone attacks in russia. the first day, yesterday morning when the two russian airfields were struck reportedly by drones sent over by ukrainian force, those strikes in particular are incredibly significant wauz they because they happened deep inside russia. we're talking about 300 miles beyond the border. if these were carried out by ukraine, then it seems to suggest sort of two things one, a new willingness among ukrainian forces to take this fight to are you shall ya at their mill mil tear bases and also it seems to suggest that their aublt to use some of the weapons they have and strike russian targets at a greater
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