tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC December 6, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PST
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in the last 90 minutes, we learned that the january 6th committee has decided to issue criminal referrals to the justice department. the big question now is who will be on that list? the chairman of the committee confirmed this news on his way to a ceremony honoring the officer who is served at the capitol that day. one of them former officer michael fanone who says officers haggled him on the way into that ceremony. the insults he sered down as they thought to lift hum up along with the the other officers who fought. plus we're hours away from the extraordinary election season with one of the most contentious races of all. the senate runoff in georgia. we'll go live to atlanta in just a minute and dig deeper into what the race means for the rest of the country. and the stunning numbers of hospitalizations and deaths not from covid, but from the flu. why one top doctor is calling it a, quote, perfect storm just in
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time for the holidays. but we begin with that breaking news. the chairman of the january 6th committee telling reporters they have made a long-awaited decision about whether their final report will include criminal referrals. >> we have not made a decision as to who, but we have made decisions that criminal referrals will happen. i wish i could tell you, all that is still being discussed. >> i want to bring in capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, who broke this story for us. jonathan lemire is host of "way too early." and frank fagluse served for counterintelligence. all three are msnbc critters. ryan, there were two press
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gaggles with the chairman. he seems to be pretty careful with his words. but you were there. what's the bottom line here? what's the take away? >> the bottom line is that we know for sure that the january 6th select committee is going to refer some sort of criminal tuft that they believe took place as part of their investigation. at least that they have uncoffered as part of thundershower investigation. but to whom remains an open question. it appears that final decision has yet to be made. the committee plans to meet later today to have more extensive conversation about how they are going to do this. but it appears it is going to be part of that final report that they plan to issue here in the next couple weeks and there's a lawn ri list of potential criminal referrals that could take part of the committee. they have already sent over a number of criminal contempt of congress referrals for individuals who have violated their subpoena requests. could we see more of that? could there be something to do
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with election interference or accusations of perjury in front of of the committee. that all remains a possibility. so all we know for sure is that the committee is settled on the idea of moving forward with these referrals. the form and fashion is still being debated. >> and he would not say who might be a subject of a criminal referral or what crimes. let's be clear, you have a committee that's full of lawyers and staffs, so they are looing at this with a prosecutorial eye. what seems most likely to you? >> well, chris, i think there are so many possibilities that it's hard to predict. i think what is important to keep in mind is while criminal referrals from congress are really not unusual and they are often really almost in the form of a question, here's something we would like for you to investigate, this is really unusual because these referrals
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are going to be coupled with a report that will have even more information than all the information that's already been publicized. it's not really a request for the the department of justice to do some work so much as a request for the department to act on the work that the committee has done. and one thing that i'm going to be looking for, ask this will help answer the question of what as well as who the referrals might concern, is will they be about crimes that occurred in the course of the investigation? so something like perjury, we just heard about. or will it be about the underlying issues that were being investigated in the first place like what happened on the day of january 6th and the election interference. >> was it was really face nating to me that the chairman was specifically asked whether he thought any of the witnesses had perjuriered them lss he said that was part of the discussion. what do you make of that? >> indeed.
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he could have said no, ask that would have directed us just to the second category i tribed, which is what they set out to investigate in the first place. but any prosecutor will tell you that the coverup is just as interesting or easier to prove than the underlying crime. and it is quite possible that people committed new criminal acts because testimony they gave the committee, and we have not seen all the system. that is important. it's not just what was publicized, but undies closed testimony, which as understand it, now is going to come out because the committee has made a commitment to publicize everything it has before it's shut down. >> knowing how much work has happened, how much they could give, how much weight do you think the referrals will carry at the justice department?
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>> i think they are important. technically, do they need referrals, no. there's an active investigation. but what it does is it removes the equivocation, the wiggle room and focuses the attention squarely on doj moving forward. the public's attention is important because this is also going to lay out with the referral. it will have a public release, if not all of the evidence that the committee has gathered. and we'll see that while the quiet behind the scenes investigative work goes on. so there's tremendous value. you'll remember attorney general barr when he was handed the results of bob mueller's special counsel got out in front and wrote a four-page summary misdirecting and misspeaking about the results. if the committee here issues a
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written criminal referral laying out their evidence, it's hard to misinterpret that. it's important. i think they are doing the right thing. think we'll see both. you'll remember the co-chairs talking about people threatening to intimidate witnesses. i thus we're going to see that. and then we're going to see the crimes. >> let's talk about the politics. maybe we think it's all baked in. how big a deal could this be. there's just the headline, which would be criminal referrals and who it might be or what it might about, but the second part of this really is what else might be in those pages of documents that we don't know about yet. >> certainly, the committee throughout its work all yearlong has turned up new details about
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what happened on january 6th and the weeks before, despite this event being so exhaustively covered. so we may learn more things in this report that could stun the american public. polls suggest people have made up their minds about january 6th. the referrals, it depends who it is. if it's secret service agents or lawyers or trump staffers, it might not move the needle all that muff. the big question is trump himself. and we know that even if there's a referral that doesn't mean the department of justice is going to act upon it. they have their own investigation going. that will still be significant. because it takes it one step closer. if criminal charges come, some thought it they were to happen, whether for this or the mar-a-lago documents, that would take us to a new place with the
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former president indicted for a crime. it's sure to stir up passions on both sides of the aisle. it will be a delicate moment. >> seismic political earthquake there. i mentioned that we heard from bennie thompson on to the ceremony. it was to award congressional gold medals to police officers at the capitol on january 6th. afterward, mike fanone was beat by the mob and says he was heckled in profane terms by members of his own department. he says members of the special operations division told hum he was a disgrace, that he didn't belong the at the ceremony, although the words he said they used were much more colorful. what do you make of that? what's your reaction to that? >> so, this is the real disgrace. the issue is the culture that
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still continues at the police department in the district of columbia. these were true heroes honored fighting for democracy. if the special operations division don't understand what a hero is, don't understand what it means to fight for democracy, they need to find another job. they can start with the donut shop that they hang out at every single morning. and they apply for jobs there. what needs to happen is the chief of police needs to announce publically there's going to be an internal affairs investigation. it's going to interview every member that was there today and get to the bottom of the heckling and then remove those officers. because it's unacceptable and it gets to a larger issue of continuing culture in law enforcement that starts at the top. as the chief can't figure it out, the chief can get another job. >> so we have some breaking news. the "washington post" just reporting that the new special counsel has subpoenaed local officials in arizona, in
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michigan, and wisconsin. those three states were key to donald trump's failed plan to overturn the 2020 election. and he subpoenaed them for any and all communications with trump. his campaign and a long list of aids and al loiss. the post is siting the clerks although nbc has not confirmed it. that said, how significant is this news n your opinion? >> it's enormously significant. so early in his tenure, we have already seen that the special counsel is moving on a bunch of different fronts. we saw last week around thanksgiving that he is quite engaged in the litigation around mar-a-lago and the documents that were taken there. and now we see a subject that is also been on the plate of the january 6th committee, which is was there interference with the conducting and the certiication
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of the election is also very much within his cross hairs. >> a lot of breaking news in this hour. thank you all so much. ryan nobles, we appreciate you. thank you all. now we have a pretty astonishing bit of developing news out of colorado springs. the suspect accused of killing five people and wounding more than a dozen others inside an lgbtq nightclub has been formally charged with more than 300 criminal counts including first-degree murder, attempted murder and hate crimes. we have been waiting to hear the decision by prosecutors what actually would these be, but 300 charges? tell us about it. >> the defendant in this shooting is charged with 305 counts for the nightclub shooting in colorado springs in which 5 people were killed, dozens injured. those charged inclues
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first-degree murder, attempted first degree murder, hate crimes. the defense says its cloints uses they/them pronouns anden hasn't stopped from charging them with bias. prosecutors say there's a volumous all the of evidence. the want suspect informs a yellow jump suit significantly less browsed than the last court appearance where at least two heroes inside club q restrained them and prevented them from doing more damage saving a lot of lives. prosecutors here pointing to a possible bias motive, but so far, we don't know for sure why they did thp and we may never know. the preliminary hearing is set for february 22 skpnd expected to last two days. we can expect a lot of evidence to be presented for the more than 300 crimes that he's
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charged with. >> thank you so much for that. today is the day the contentious georgia senate runoff comes to a close. we're on the ground with the final message to voters. 40,000 people in north carolina freezing in the dark and some without water as experts sound the alarm on the vulnerability of critical infrastructure across the country. and flu season hitting the health care system like a wrecking wall. what could be done with hospitalizations and a decade high. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ports,". ♪ today my friend you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. i know there's conflicting information about dupuytren's contracture. i thought i couldn't get treatment yet? well, people may think that their contracture
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the most expensive senate race comes to an end today. it's on the frnt page of every newspaper and as the atlanta paper puts it, the nation is watching. because it's not just a sipg the senate seat up for grabs. georgia will be key in the presidential contest. and this race is a political proxy for the national parties ask what they stand for. both president biden and donald trump weighing in within the last 24 hours while warnock and herschel walker in these frantic closing hours have been focused on energizing the base. >> said we have to the get out and vote. i'm feeling good. i feel very good about the
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outcome. the early vote was good. >> given my apoint, this race is not even about republican versus democrat, red vs. blue, right vs. left, it's right vs. wropg. and i think people see that. >> now the question is who can maximize turnout and if early voting is any indication t could be huge. the georgia secretary of state estimates that nearly 300,000 votes were cast in the first two and a half hours of voting today. i want to bring in vaughn hillyard in. and tia mitchell is washington correspondent for the atlanta journal constitution. great to have you both here. vaughn, what's the mood? have we seen any issues with voting so far? what are you hearing from voters today? >> take a look at this. this is a fulton county site here in the heart of atlanta.
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this is the second site that we stopped at. it's important to know looking at the map, which to note in last month's general election, warnock received 3 out of every 4 votes. this is the democratic corridor here. you have seen no lines of over five minutes at any site here in the heart of the lunchtime hour. so whour wh you're looking at this, compare it to the likes of last week. i was talking with a poll worker who told me at the site we just left that only 125 folks had passed through in the first 5 hours of the day. but she said at that site, in early voting, they had two and a half hour lines in early voting and thousands of folks were coming through here. we're seeing at this particular location a trickle of folks here throughout the day. and so that begs the question. how strong were the democrats numbers? early voting indicators suggested that the democrats have reason to be encouraged based off some of the the figures that were coing if from
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the early vote breakdown. at the same time, the question is what is happening in the rural parts of the state. we're trying to get a better grasp of what the turnout is looking like. the same day voting turnout is looking like in that area where herschel walker not only spent the last several days of the campaign, but a necessity for him to juice the turnout, in particularly those voters that voted for the likes of libertarian, 81,000 votes for the libertarian candidate in last month's election. but they voted for a republican, did the not vote for warnock. the conservative needed those folks. that's why it was important that brian kemp cut a television ad that's been running to boost the turnout for the republican. you also saw the likes of lindsey graham, john ken dirks other republican senators who came and tried to drive home the message to georgia republicans that let's look beyond questions about herschel walker the man.
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but this is a matter of having a republican senator serve the people of georgia for the next six years. >> between the candidates and outside groups, more than $400 million was spent on this race. that's mind blowing. by one estimate, 20,000 ads have aired just in the runoff period. have you seen any evidence it's changed minds that it motivated people, who weren't motivated before? tell us about your feeling about the lek toirt and how all that money played into it. >> i do think there are people who are motivated to vote in this runoff who did not participate in the midterms. we have seen that. almost 100,000 new voters that did not vote in november, it's not just the ad. it's the phone call, the text message, the door knocking, the grass roots organizations have been very active in this runoff. especially on the democratic
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side, but the republicans also have a grass roots apparatus on the ground. so we are seeing voters ready for the ads to stop. they are ready for all the texts to stop. but there's a lot of interest in a lot of engagement in this election. >> as you watch the returns come in tonight, what will you be watching for on the map. >> we're going to be looking at the rural parts of georgia, but also serving metro atlanta. those are the outer rings. that's where there are republican-leaning counties, but that have the bigger population. so because a lot of the very red counties in rural georgia don't have the numbers, but you have counties like cherokee county, hall county, those counties can
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bring this a lot of votes for herschel walker. thaps what that's what he's going to need today. we think he came in with a little advantage from early voting. herschel walker has to make it up from election day voting. he's going to need the right-leaning counties rich with voters to show up for him. >> thank you. going to be potentially long night for you both. thank you so much. tens of thousands in north carolina left freezing and in the dark and authorities can't explain exactly what the motivation was for this. how vulnerable is the rest of the u.s. critical infrastructure? get refunds.com powered by innovation refunds can help your business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too.
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new warnings from top experts about the vulnerability of america's key infrastructure in the wake of that targeted gunfire attack on two north carolina substations. nearly 40,000 people remain without power for a fourth day and governor cooper had had this grim warning. >> protecting critical infrastructure like our power system must be a top priority. this kind of attack raises a new
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level of threat. >> so what is that new threat level? and what can be done about it? i want to bring in antonia hillton. also with us security analyst frank figlusi. thousands without heat. some without water. you were right there in front of the sheriffs office. what do you know about what they are doing behind those doors to get people some answers about who did this and why they did it? >> we know that the the fbi and state bower row of investigation are here on the ground assisting local authorities. and you just played a clip of governor cooper here yesterday and not only did he speak with reporters and address people's concerns here, but he also got to tour one of the substations that was dismantled during the gunfire attack. there's really two sides to the
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story here. there's a community that has been plunged into darkness and chaos and destabilization in the span of just a couple minutes on a saturday night, and then there's the investigation side of this. and the reality is right now that authorities still have no motive and no suspects. they have a tip line open and are asking people who know anything about what may have happened that night to please report to them. in the meantime, residents say they are frustrated. they are cold at home. they are having to travel to shower and to find food. take a listen to a conversation that our colleague had with some folks. >> we have no heat. we have no cooking facilities. >> how are you getting by? >> barely. i have friends that have generated homes that we can sneak in and grab something to eat from them. >> reporter: this is incredibly disturbing and frustrating for people here. but it's also brought the national implications of this
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really into perspective for folks. the actions of a bad actor or small group of actors on saturday night has disdelaware stabilized this entire county for it's stretching into the third day now that people are waking up without necessities. they are making case by case decisions a about what they are going to do for kids in the coming days. and duke energy tells our team that the vast majority of the people living here are not going to et gt their power back until thursday. these are costly and complicated repairs to substations. the central thing we know for sure is the people who did this knew what they were doing. that's what the authorities here keep emphasizing. this was intentional and criminal who whoever did this to the substations knew what they were doing and were well informed about what the consequences would be. >> the the former secretary of homeland security was on "morning joe" and said this is exactly the heightened threat sbiermt that dhs has been
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warning about and tauds about those warnings in recent bulletins. take a listen. >> dhs has been putting out bulletins every sux months warning about the heightened threat environment. one of the things that i noted from the latest bulletin is that attackers can be inspired by prior attacks. and that's consistent with i many own experience here. so this is a dangerous environment. my guess is that the fbi, local police are hot on the trail. and wouldn't be surprised if there were surveillance cameras at the substation. and my bet is that they are arrested before a week. >> so two-part question coming out of that statement. how concern are the you about attacks on critical instra fra structure and could be this a suspect sooner rather than later? >> so these dhs fbi warnings don't come in a vacuum.
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they don't pull them out of thin air. they come from intelligence. the intelligence over the last couple years indicates that on the far right side of the threat, there has been much chatter, even guides that instruct groups and individual ises how to take down the substation as part of the ewe tulty group. in fact, famously, this happened previously back in 2013 at the station in california. sniper shots took out transformers. and it's never been solved. so i'm optimistic that, yes, they will get to the bottom of this in this small community, but let's remember 2013 still not solved. for me, this is a stark reminder that even though we pour resources into cybersecurity as part of our infrastructure protection, to protect from hackers, this old fashioned attack worked very effect i havely. it's not to say it was
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permanent. likely more than one person. but it's prim tuf, yet sophisticated if you know what you're doing and read the manuals that exist out there, you can do this fairly simply. so we need to kick up even more the kind of camera coverage, drone camera coverage around these remote grid sites and get better at this. but yes, i do think that we're going to apprehend these people. and i think it's like let we're not talking about teenagers out for a wild night. we're talking about people moat vated for a cause, for a mission and don't be surprised if we see domestic terrorism charges. >> thank you. we just got this in. the family of an officer who died on january 6th refusing to shake the hand of republican leaders at today's ceremony honoring law enforcement. they just told nbc news why. we have that, next. plus political challenges piling up for the former
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growing pressure as key senators begin questioning his viability as a presidential candidate. and the backlash is only growing against his suggestion to throw out the constitution and make him president president again. >> when president trump says he wants to suspend the constitution, he goes from being maga to being rhino. we're the constitution party. >> you take an oath to the constitution, you don't take it provisionally. >> certainly not an ex-president. i think this is irresponsible. >> obviously nobody's terminating the constitution. what's going on here is a clown is trying to sell tickets to his circus. >> that backlash now so intense he's trying to say he never suggested it. jonathan lemire is host of "way too early" and an msnbc political analyst. elise jordan is a former aid to
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george w. bush. so jonathan, senators are not only criticizing trump's comments on the constitution, they are also questioning his viability, which is a whole other thing. let's take a listen. >> >> . >> retiring senator rob portman said, i just think in the end he will not end up running because of the polling. the trend line is not positive. i wonder what you're hearing. is this a growing sentiment among republicans, among top republicans that he's less and less viable? >> certainly, republicans in the senate, a number of them have been tired of donald trump for a long time. and many blame him for electoral
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defeats in 2020 and just in the mid-tropical storms of a few weeks ago. and potentially, tonight in georgia. that said, these condemnations are still wishy washy. very few republicans outside of mitt romney and others are forcefully denouncing what trump does repeatedly. certainly his lying to terminate the constitution was a bridge too far for some. we have seen this before. mild criticism, but they don't go too far for fear out of what trump will do because let's remember sol of these republicans are reliant on trump voters to get themselves reelected. now there's no question the first couple weeks of trump's 2024 campaign bid have gone as badly as they can. this over his desire of the constitution, his dinner with a nazi, his support for the january 6th insurrectionists and on and on, we shall see. he's still the most popular
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republican in the party. that has not changed just yet. if past is prologue, it probably won't change at all. >> you do wonder, even the criticism that we heard, if they are just hoping it will all go away. after the backlash, then you have the walkback, you have trump denying what he said, even though he didn't take down what he said. that is what he said. >> the words are there. >> what do we make of this? is it just not challenging anymore for senators not to denounce the fact that somebody says i could get rid of the constitution and go back in office. >> donald trump has had a lot of unforced errors in days of late. he's actually starting to be slightly damaged by it. these constitution comments did not go every well. i know that there are always predictions of this is problematic for trump. this actually could be problematic with trump's base,
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who tends to be quite fond of the constitution, although there are authoritarian strains that have emerged among a lot of trump's most strident supporters. watching trump, you just think how many of these incidents can he take and not keep eroding himself when so many republicans are really ready to be done with him, but they just are too scared to publicly say it. >> this is interesting. one of our producers reminded me of what kevin mccarthy, who may be speaker, tweeted less than two weeks ago. quote, on the very first day of the new republican-led congress, we'll read every single word of the constitution aloud from the floor of the house. is it not a problem for a pop pol tigs to say i'm going to defend and read the constitution but doesn't disown a comment that's about getting rid of the constitution?
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>> trump has hit a pressure point. this is sacred among the republican party. at least in terms of their talking points. he's going to be trashing ronald reagan, probably has done that. but i do find the walkback interesting, even though what he said is clearly there in plain sight. we can read it and et get the meaning. it's pretty literal. but think about when he called john mccain horrible names and said he was a loser. he wouldn't walk that back. so he's gotten away with saying so many crazy, ridiculous things and he doesn't even try to walk them become. he's trying to walk this back. >> thank you both for sticking around. we appreciate both of you. we want to bring you more breaking news. stemming from the congressional gold medal ceremony held today for january 6th police officers. the family of brian sic nick making a statement by refusing
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to shake hands with republican leaders. i want to bring in garrett haake, who is on capitol hill. walk us through your new reporting on this. >> yeah, this was a moment that caught a lot of people's attention during the ceremony when the family of officer sicknic had an opportunity to shake hands. and when they got to mitch mcconnell, both the mother and father simply skipped that handshake. asked by our producer afterwards why they did so, here's what they told us. >> we're not going to shake their hands. there's much more to that response. it basically comes down to this. the family members said that there was the continued loyalty to donald trump that was the problem for them. that the idea that kevin mccarthy in particular to a lesser degree mitch mcconnell,
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going down to mar-a-lago in the days after january 6th that they couldn't take soorsly this idea they were now backing the police officers who stood up and fought on january 6. so kind of a silent protest there in the moment, but one that caught a lot of of attention for folks watching that ceremony closely. >> garrett haake, thank you. we appreciate it. more missiles raining down on ukraine as vladimir putin once again suppresses rights in russia. the controversial law he just signed. and the incoming president of the american hospital association will join us with covid, flu and rsv cases surging. we have the latest worrisome numbers, next. e thlae test worre numbers, next. e's a different wy to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal.
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meantime, the head of the american medical association is calling the influx of sick patients in hospitals right now the perfect storm for a terrible holiday season. covid hospitalizations have been going up since thanksgiving while there are growing fears over rsv and flu hospitalizations and depths are exploding. the cdc says over the holiday week, outpatient visits for the flu were three times higher than normal and hospitalizations nearly doubled including 4500 people, including 14 children, have died since the start of the flu season. here's an er doctor from california. >> we're already at mid january levels. so you know, the interesting and scary to see where this goes from here. i think we're all worried this is going to continue to ramp up and up and up and you know,
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we're not really seeing like peaking behavior yet. >> here with me now, dr. conroy. the president and ceo of dartmouth medical center and chair elect of the american hospital association. thank you for being with us, doctor. this is just the beginning of the holiday season and the numbers are already this bad. you just heard the doctor. he's worried they're going to go up and up and up. how is this impacting your hospital? what are you hearing from others? >> so, our hospitals are full. in fact, new hampshire is one of the top five in terms of the occupancy of our icus. and you're right. it's a combination of rsv, covid and influenza. all of which are peaking probably six weeks ahead of the normal cadence of these respiratory viruses. we we see now is we're simply running out of beds. it's not necessarily because we don't always have the bed capacity, but we really don't have the staff and every single
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hospital would say this. to staff the beds we have as well as additional beds to accommodate this type of respiratory outbreak. >> well, i mean, i'm assuming this is all about the last few years, fighting the pandemic. it contributed to a lot of people leaving the profession, but people who have stayed in it still feeling the strain. it feels like, you tell me, it never went away. it seemed maybe for some of us that things were better, but here you are again. what should people know about the concerns that hospitals have and if they start to have symptoms, what should they do? >> so, people are exhausted, you're right, chris. and they have managed surge after surge of covid and when they thought they saw a light at the end of the tunnel, here we have another surge. facing us during a holiday season. the holiday season is the hardest season for us to
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actually staff our beds because everybody likes to take time off with their families, but people still get sick during the holiday season. but let me paint a picture of what happens in the hospital or how it affects the hospital. we have people in beds currently that we can't actually move out of those beds because the post acute care facilities are not staffing all their beds. that backs up into the hospital which backs up into the emergency room which then creates problems for people that actually come for urgent issues to the facility to receive care in a timely manner. you know across the country that hospitals are boarding patients in the ed in makeshift tents outside the facilities just to make sure people receive the care they need. i think many people thought since covid is on the down slope, that all of our problems
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