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plus, for a limited time, get 500 dollars off an eligible 5g phone. even you in 22c. flight attendants, prepare for big savings. drop everything and get to the xfinity black friday sale. >> again, tonight, nbc news has click, call or visit a store today. projected that the winner of this senate race in the united states senate seat, georgia, is
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raphael warnock, the democratic incumbent defeating his republican challenger herschel walker. steve kornacki, we know with the result is now. we have been watching with you over the course of the night over as the results come in. what can you tell us about how this ultimately came down? what was the bottom line story here about how warnock won? >> yeah. i think there are a couple of stories within this here. you start with the core democratic strength which is this immediate atlanta metro area here. it is where warnock, you remember he finished first, he did not get over 50% but he finished first in the preliminary and this is the area that powered him in the preliminary. we are almost all in fulton county right now but i mean, warnock is sitting at 76. 5%, just compare that to how he ran in fulton county. this is atlanta, the biggest in the state, back in november he had 73 and a half percent of fulton county then. this was a great number for warnock in november, and he improves on it tonight, again, a few more votes to come in fulton county. we expect that they will be warnock friendly. they may not be quite 76. 5% but he will
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finish, it looks, like above where he finished in november. if you place where he finished in this was a huge one for him. gwinnett county, one of the biggest growing counties in the state, again, right outside of atlanta, he finished just under 59% in november tonight, he is just over 62%. this was a great number for warnock back in november, this was an even better number for him tonight. so, in these core democratic areas, he didn't just to the numbers he needed, he exceeded them. so this was one problem for walker right away, he needed warnock to underperform the core atlanta metro area, that didn't happen. the other thing that walker was counting on was again, if you look back at that november general election, in georgia if you took the senate race out of it, it was a good night for republicans in georgia back in november. brian kemp got reelected, brad raffensperger got reelected, they won statewide elections. the one who is lagging behind all the other republicans was herschel walker. so that was the other question, these big republican vote producing counties. we talk tonight about cherokee county, this is the biggest republican
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votes producing county in the state. you can see that walker wins it, he doesn't do that much better than he did in november and this is what camp brian kemp -- and walker could not even -- he barely got a 69% tonight, he needed to be in the 70s in cherokee county. he needed bigger numbers and the big republican counties that are just outside of the atlanta metro area. so he had some good numbers and the rural areas, but the bottom line is in the big republican counties he didn't improve enough, and then the core democratic areas he did not contain warnock's strength, and warnock wins the race. >> not enough offense and not enough defense. i think we can go live right now to herschel walker's campaign headquarters where he is speaking. he is just wrapping up. did mr. walker concede? we go live to this right now, he looks confused. herschel walker just
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gave remarks to his supporters in which he didn't formally concede, but he said conciliatory words. he talked about having fought a good fight, which implies that the fight is over. so concession and conciliation, i am parsing, but that is it. i will take it as positive. >> the other big quiet winner tonight is a president of the united states who becomes the first one since 1934, since franklin roosevelt, to not lose a single senator of his own party in the first midterm election. there are so many astounding comparisons that you can make between joe biden and other presidents, but you have to reach very far back, you have to go back to franklin roosevelt, and no one has been more underestimated as a presidential candidate going into the presidency. what governing he would be capable
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of with a 50/50 senate all along, and how obviously he was going to lose the senate and his first midterm, and he held on to it. >> what about the other quiet winner? sanity. america showed us again that they were not going to vote for crazy. herschel walker was a fully unqualified, out of the box candidate, and america said, -- georgia said no thank you. the question is, is the gop watching and listening? because if you look at the house, it does not appear that way. >> well, that said, the house in any normal political science model should have swung 30, 40, 60 seats to the republicans. >> yes. >> and kevin mccarthy maybe it is going to be taking over as house speaker if he can put together the votes. with a majority that you can fit in one hand. >> -- >> that itself is almost as a historical a result as a senate result that you are talking about right now. and the combination of those two things
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tells you that it is not any one race and not anyone crazy candidate, it is joe biden leading this democratic party in a way that is honestly not having had electoral success like this since fdr. >> and the thing is not joe biden always had, he is the arithmetic mean of normal. he's just normal, average, moderate guy. and it turns out that that is a very popular model because remember, barack hussein obama put the name aside, what was he? arithmetic, mean a normal guy. he gives you non-cuckoo. and i think that at the end of the day, we talked about this a lot tonight, the republican strategy has always been theatrical. really since ronald reagan. it has been give you theatrical character, give you former actor, i think we said it before, they nominated guber. -- they keep looking for ever more
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theatrical celebrities. -- temporarily, but at a certain point people do get exhausted, and they actually do like policy. and biden has proved that policy actually works. >> the thing that you are seeing in biden is someone who has done this better than anyone i have ever seen which is that he is using his experience wisely. you know, experience can sometimes be a way to when you move up to the next level in politics and in governing. and you did not quite know how to use it. he has used it so wisely. when you look at previous presidents who have anything comparable to his experience, you have to look at lyndon johnson who was majority leader of the senate and then the vice president. lyndon johnson wrecked his presidency, just direct it. he could not use his experience to make it work. joe biden has been so wise in the use of his own experience. >> i believe that this is an election where no incumbent lost their primary or general election bid. which is an important distinction. >> no -- >> in the senate, sorry, in the
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senate. >> in the house there were. >> there were a number who decided i have to go home. they gave up. >> oh, sure. >> waving the white flag -- >> we are waiting for the victories speech from incumbent senator raphael warnock has been reelected in the state of georgia. we are awaiting his victory speech we will bring back into the conversation congresswoman nikema williams, who chairs the democratic party of the great state of georgia, which is having a moment right now. congresswoman, thank you so much, and congratulations! >> hey, y'all, we won! >> you are lighting homes across america with the expression on your face right now. we have to give you a warning, if senator warnock start speaking, i will jump in, and i apologize in advance if i need to interrupt you. >> that is okay, i want to hear him as well. >> put into words how you are feeling in what you attribute this victory tonight? >> rachel, i think earlier tonight, i knew that we were going to show up. we organized and every corner of every county, and never took any vote for granted. we knew that this
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would come down to the wire. we knew that every vote would count, and that is why we kept working until the polls closed today. actually, until 7:20, because one location in my district stayed open until 7:20 pm and we never stopped organizing. so this victory is for democracy, it is for the voters of georgia who have been the center of the political universe, cycle after cycle, i think that someone said earlier that this didn't just happen in 2020, i have been an organizer on the ground in georgia for over a decade now. and we have been gaining cycle, after cycle. even in the state legislative seats. we picked up seats in the house, and the senate this cycle. we are putting in the work in delivering for every day georgians for the work that we are doing at the democratic party in georgia. i am proud to be the chairwoman, we have partners in this work, all over independent groups, my husband, shut out to my husband leslie
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small with american votes, who has been organizing independent partners. and i mean, it has been a collective. we built a multi racial coalitions. because it takes all of us to win for the people. >> tell me, what is your secret, what is the secret sauce in the georgia democratic party? right now you are firing on all cylinders, and you are not always on the most favorable terrain. but as you say, going, back election cycle after election cycle, democrats and georgia have been showing the rest of the country how to do it and have been winning improbable races and making things that once seemed impossible, now seem likely. i think that there is a lot of democratic parties around the country, different state parties who really wish that they had some of that secret sauce that you all have in georgia, that you have been able to apply to not always favorable terrain in your state. is there something that you are doing that other state parties aren't doing that they could learn from? >> it is building those multi
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racial coalitions, rachel. and the year round organizing cannot be overstated. we have to stay out there and meet voters where they are every single day and that is what we are doing at the democratic party of georgia. i am proud to be the chairwoman, i am the first black woman to chair in the state party. and i am so proud of the work that we have done and i think that my senator, did he just come out on the stage? >> everybody is getting there, we can tell, we have got eyes on, it don't worry. we won't miss it. >> my senator, my constituents, i am excited tonight, rachel. >> let me ask you one other question just from pundit land -- i feel like some of the way that we talk about this, i include myself in this, and it is reductive and wrong, but some of the ways that we talk about this is about the strategic decision to try to energize the base, feed the base, serve the base, turn out the base, organized a base, versus appealing to swing voters, appealing to defectors from the other party, appealing to independents who might otherwise be not necessarily motivated to turn out for an
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election like this. i say we are being reductive in that because i think we often present it as an either or. and now looks like the way that senator warnock won this reelection was by doing both and almost in equal measure. is that fair? >> you are absolutely right, we do not have the luxury to pick and choose voters, we need people where they are, and that includes the urban dwellers in atlanta, the moderate somewhat i'd like to call the pearl necklace around rural atlanta. and i grew up on a farm in rural alabama. we meet people where they are. >> nikema williams, the chair of the democratic party of georgia, i told you that we would have to say goodbye when your senator walked out onto the stage, and here he is. congresswoman congresswoman williams, congratulations tonight. tonight, america, you are looking at the newly reelected democrat u. s. senator from the state of georgia, the reverend raphael warnock. let's hear what he has to say. [crowd
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chanting, six more years!] [crowd chanting, six more years!] >> wow! [applause] >> well hello everybody. y'all settle down, now. settle down. [applause] [crowd chanting] >> thank you, georgia.
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[applause] thank you. i love you, too. all right, y'all settle down. [applause] >> we love you! >> i want to say thank you. thank you from the bottom of my heart. and to god be the glory. >> [screaming] [applause]
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. >> -- for the great things that god has done. and after a hard-fought campaign -- >> [applause] >> very hard! >> or should i say campaigns? >> [laughter] >> it is my honor to utter the four most powerful words ever spoken in a democracy. the people have spoken. >> [applause]
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[crowd cheering] >> i often say that a vote is a kind of prayer for the world we desire for ourselves and for our children. voting is faith put into action. and georgia, you have been praying with you are lips and your legs. with your hands and your feet. we have we your heads and your hearts. you have put in the hard work, and here we are standing together. >>
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[applause] [applause] i want to say thank you. and i want to say, i want to say thank you. >> you are welcome. >> i want to say thank you to my mother, who is here tonight. >> [crowd cheering] [applause] >> you will see her in a little while. but she grew up in the 1950s. in waycross, georgia, picking somebody else's cotton and somebody else's tobacco.
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but tonight, she helped pick her youngest son to be a united states senator. >> [applause] >> my dad has long past into the light. but he is still very much with us. i watched my dad, a pastor and a small businessman, take care of his family by working really hard with his hands. and using his brain, and he picked up old junk cars, and loaded them up on a rig that mechanisms of which he designed himself. one on top of the other. and that is how he took care of his family. but on sunday morning,
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the man who lifted broken cars, lifted broken people. >> [applause] [crowd cheering]. >> and convince them of their value. i would not be here were it not for them. i am a proud son of savannah, georgia. >> [applause] >> it's a coastal city known for its verdant town squares and it's cobblestone streets. and tall, majestic oak trees, dripping with spanish moss. bending back in the love of history and horticulture, to
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this city, by the sea. my roots, like the roots of those oak trees go deep down into the so of savannah and he waycross and -- burke county and wake county. i am georgia. i am an example, and an iteration of its history. of its pain and its promise of the brutality and the possibility. but because this is america, and because we always have a path to make our country greater, against unspeakable odds, here we stand together. >> i want to thank my mother
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and my late father, i want to thank my siblings who are here. -- clearly, my folks read the bible, be fruitful and multiply. and our family was short on money but long on love, long on faith. and i want to thank my to darling children them, chloe and caleb. their brilliance and eyes inspired me to work for all of our children. georgia, i don't want you to miss what you have done, in a moment in which there were folks trying to divide our country. and those forces are very much at work right now, george did
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an amazing thing. in 2021, it sent its first african american senator and it's for us to jewish senator to the united states senate in one fell swoop. >> [applause] >> and you have done it again. thank you, georgia! now there are those who we'll look at the outcome of this race and say that, yes, you are right, we won. . >> [crowd cheering] >> there are those who look at the outcome of this race and say that there is no voter suppression in georgia. let me be clear.
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just because people endured long lines that wrapped around buildings, some blocks long -- just because they endured the rain and the cold and all kinds of tricks in order to vote, does not mean that voter suppression does not exist. it simply means that you, the people, have decided that your voices will not be silent. >> [crowd cheering] >> let us not forget that when we entered this runoff, a vestige of the ugly side of our complicated american story --
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state officials said that we could not vote on saturday. but we sued them and we won. >> [crowd cheering] and the people, once again, goes up in a multiracial, multi religious coalition of -- conscience. you endured the rain. you endured the long lines. and you voted. and you did it because you believe, as i do, that democracy is the political enactment of a spiritual idea. this notion that each of us has within us a spark of the divine, that we were created in the --
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[speaking non-english] in the image of god. and if you are not given to that kind of religious language, that's fine, our tent is big. >> [crowd cheering] [applause] >> simply put it this way. each of us has value. and if we have value we -- to determine the direction of your country and your destiny within it. and so, we stand here tonight on broad shoulders. our ballot is a bloodstained ballot. we stand here on the shoulders of the marchers -- marchers. schwerner, chaney and goodman.
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-- louis so, james, read a white sister and a white brother, who also lost their lives, and, fannie lou hamer, that indomitable mississippi sharecropper. and my parishioner. god bless his memory, john lewis. , he one day crossed a bridge, knowing that there was danger on the other side, and yet he crossed that bridge while building a bridge for the future. and now, it is on us. the latest generation of americans, and of georgians, to keep building that bridge. >> --
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pastor. >> to keep walking that long walk, pushing the nation towards our ideals. so georgia, this is my promise to you, the work that we must do is difficult. the issues are not simple, they are complex. but here is my promise to you, i will walk with you, even as i work for you. >> [applause] >> because here is what i have learned as a pastor. you can't leave the people unless you love the people. you can't love the people unless you know the people, and you can't know the people unless you walk among the people. you cannot serve me if you cannot see me. and so
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during these difficult days, even as i work on specific public policy proposals, and i offer bills, and work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to get those bills passed, i just want you to know that i see you. i see you parents as you are trying to put your kids through college, community college, and technical college, i see you students as you are trying to make a way. and i see you essential workers, fighting for a livable wage, to participate in the prosperity that to create for others. farmers who are an answer to our most basic prayer, give us this day our daily bread, yet they struggle to hold on to the farm. farmers, i see you. i am
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here with you. and together, we can work through all of these issues. and i want all of georgia to know whether you voted for me or not -- >> [applause] [crowd cheering]. >> i get it. but i want -- i want all of georgia to know, whether you voted for me or not, that every single day i am going to keep working for you. i am proud of the bipartisan work i have done. and i intend to do more. because i actually believe that we are all americans. i believe in that american covenant.
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e pluribus unum. and it is that confident that drives me to lower costs, to lower the costs of prescription drugs, to create jobs all across our state. and to address the issue of criminal justice reform. because i believe that you can have justice and safety at the same time. so, thank you for this high honor. after a hard-fought campaign, you have got me for six more years >> [crowd chanting]
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[crowd cheering, six more years!] >> thank you. thank you. let me quickly, quickly do a couple of things. i want to thank my amazing campaign staff. it's led by quinton falke's. i want to thank my amazing senate's team, led by mark and labelle my state team, led by meridith lilly. and i want to thank lawrence bell, who had a crazy idea that i should run for the senate and
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here we are. and i want to thank the amazing people of ebenezer baptist church. they, amidst the attacks, stuck with your pastor. thank you, ebenezer church. so, let's celebrate for a little while on this mountain. let's dance. because we deserve it. but tomorrow, we go back down into the valley to do the work. i know that the days are still difficult. and the times are dark, but the light, the scripture says,
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shines in the darkness. and the darkness overcometh it's not. i'm ready to do this work. i can hear my dad, who blessed me, saying, get up, get dressed, put your shoes on! get ready. are you ready, georgia? i am ready! stand up for workers to -- stand up for women, to stand up for our children! i am ready! ready to build a stronger georgia. god bless you, keep the faith and keep not -- up! >> making the -- implicitly for the election of more pastors as politicians, at least those who could speak as eloquently as the pastor of the ebenezer baptist church in
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atlanta. senator raphael warnock, the first african american elected to a full u.s. term, a full term in the united states senate and from the great state of georgia. talking about a vote as a a prayer for the world that we deserve, for ourselves and our children. talked about his mother who picked cotton, who picks others people tobacco, and who today helped pick her son from the united states senate. what a room! >> yeah. >> and when you elect elect a pastor, you are going to get a sermon. >> every time he talks! >> this is one of the reasons that raphael warnock really is one of the greats political stars of the democratic party. first, winning in what is still a red state, and winning, you know, against -- i guess, the kemp machine. -- oh, there is his mom. he featured her in some of his
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ads. but if you elect a pastor -- get a shout out. you are going to -- being there. i think he also speaks to a kind of fundamental moderation, that the democratic party has become very good at modeling, whether the candidate is a white or black, whether it's shapiro, whether it's him, you know -- whether its governor of michigan. the big gretchen, gretchen whitmer, you get a good moderation with democrats. the big risk for republicans is that they've let go of moderation. so that means that independent voters, including college educated white voters, the temptation now is that you can take the risk. lindsey graham, i, think is one of the biggest viewers loses tonight. the daily show put out a twitter said that he called on conceive concede on behalf of herschel walker, that he called raphael warnock. the idea that the only way to appeal to white voters is with while the metrics that appeal to their fears about races, and
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religion, it's a problem long term. because fundamental moderation he's actually really sound political strategy. -- >> point of him as a star of the democratic party right now, let's look at the practical consequences the fact that he has had to run for office four times. -- and you heard the crowd, you heard them saying, six more years. , six more years. one of the things that he can now do is that he's gonna have six years and which he can just be a senator. >> that was the first speech he got to give to an audience, both in the room, and actually nationally without a pending election hanging over him. >> and now he gets to the united states senate, where we expect he gonna be a national party in the republican party for a moment. >> even though he had to run 17 times -- whatever the actual math, was made his mark in the last two years. you know? became the face of the -- was really involved in the key priorities for the biden administration. he mentioned working across the aisle with republicans in the speech, but also said repeatedly, i see you.
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i see you, struggling parents. i see you, essential workers. and with warnock, you get the sense that it's not just rhetoric. this is the -- the foundation of his candidacies to help vehicle. >> yeah. >> and the american covenant it's also illuminates. >> strong -- coming from a strong, place and beside people who are struggling, the state of georgia right now comparatively speaking, is doing quite well. and he is in office. the economy, they are back to better jobs numbers than they've had before the pandemic. it's becoming an electric vehicle hub. gas is now under $3 in georgia. so a lot of people in georgia are doing quite well so that argument from the republican party, the democrats are and in such a horrible hand and they are suffering. they are, not what they want is something better. and he spoke tonight about delivering that. >> but he also -- georgia also has a lot of hospitals closing. they all have a fundamental economic issue. and so at this, point moderate issues include health care.
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it includes making sure that people can actually go to the doctor. he has been -- he's done a lot of legislative work in that area. and i think that you -- know we have to expand kind of the vision of what kind of moderate politics looks like. it looks a lot more progressive now. because people have really real economic needs. >> lawrence, can you talk a little bit about his prospects in the senate? not talking about electoral prospects, but his prospects as a senator? i mean obviously, one byproduct of the georgia runoff system, despite its troubling origins, is that a senator who wins a runoff in georgia, has a spotlight to himself. there aren't other senators who when they win their lives and get the whole night dedicated to it like this. you combine that with his fundamental competence and his brilliance as an order. in fact that he is a young, man he does have the entire democratic party across the country pulling for him, and he's incredibly recognizable figure. what does that portend for this term for him in the senate? >> he just changed the lives of 50 democratic senators.
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they are now part of a real majority, and for the first time, they are actually part of committee majority. which is going to change their lives dramatically! they -- the chairs of those committees are all indebted to him because they now will have a majority of one on the committee where now they had even members of both parties on the committees. it changes the way that those committees work in profound ways. they all -- all 50 of these democratic senators, all you know every one in the senate is watching this tonight. republicans, every one of them, they heard every word of that. lindsey graham listened to every word of that. but the democrats listening to every word of that, know that they have not just a new star, they have someone to whom they are all incredibly grateful. for giving them that this real majority for the first time that many of them will experience. many of them have never been in this kind of majority before.
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>> let's test that live. because the senate will be a 51 to 49 split with the democrats and the majority and one of those senators. amy klobuchar, senator from minnesota, chair of the democratic steering committee joins us live now. she's been watching these results along with all of us. she does not senator warnock's speech. senator klobuchar, congratulations to you and your colleagues! as lawrence put it, we expect you live, will be bit easy the senate with senator warnock back among you. >> well, for sure, right about the practicality of this. our lives are easier. but for, me this night was just a celebration. i was so happy and joy's point, when you have a picture preacher, you're gonna get a sermon! it just gave me goose bumps as he's that moment, a national, stage as he does time and time again, in the senate. not mincing words, and focusing on things like freedom to vote and making sure people understand that yes, he, won but he just didn't talk about hey, great, i won. he went back and talked about
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that there was voter suppression here. people couldn't vote on saturdays. we fought it and he pledged to go forward and fight for voting rights. i sat in rooms with them when there was no media, no, stage and no glowing audience in front of them. and he did the same thing. so here in the valley, as you know, he ended the speech saying that we must go back to the valley and to work. here i am! we are very excited to have raphael warnock back and i can just tell you that every senator loves a guy. and yes, this is about the big issues and reducing drug prices and fighting for health care, having peoples back, and, yes senator schumer and our team. it was an incredible team effort. but in the, and there is one guy on that stage giving that sermon and leading us through this night to the light. so we couldn't be happier for raphael, tonight. >> it's great to have that insight for you from what he he's like as a colleague. we've seen an interview subject and as a campaigner. but as a senator, he's had to
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fight -- he's had to go back to the voters, again, and, again and again. and the two years that he has been in the senate, but now he's settling in to a six-year term. and i wonder, looking at georgia, thinking about your own, state thinking about the other purple to red to blue, the swing states -- -- they didn't all winds that are wide in these midterm elections. but he managed to. he did and some of that is about herschel walker, but some of that is about him. >> it is, and the work that nikema williams and stacey abrams have done with him, in jon ossoff, in building the party, they're reaching, out of bringing a new voters, bringing enough course african voters, hispanic voters, asian voters, it's incredible -- but also as you talked, about, reaching out to the independents and moderates. but i think the other lesson here is, you know, the shadow of donald trump, it was a
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looming over the midterms, looming over this election. it was only this last week where he said he want to terminate parts of the constitution. well it is georgian voters, democrats, independents, moderate republicans, who stood up two years ago, some stunned the nation, when, as raphael warnock said, they elected the first african american senators, first jewish senator and basically defeated two incumbent republicans. who would've thought that would it flip the senate? they did that. and a lot of this was georgia saying we believe in democracy. and you saw that repeatedly where over 30% of people that voted democratic in this election, said they did it, in large part, because of our democracy. i don't want us to forget that and how important it is, that's why raphael warnock talked about voting. but also, freedom of women, freedom of their own health care reproductive choice. that was on the ballot throughout the midterms. so all of this, i hope our republican colleagues, as you
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said, we're watching, and instead of trying to cut down the number of voters that they change their policy, and they change their candidates. because what we saw here, once again, was an incredible candidate that rose to the occasion and. >>,, here as we are reacting to the speech, and also great to. great to see you! >> great to be on. thanks, rachel. >> all right, we got much more as we come. back nbc news projects that democratic incumbent u.s. senator raphael warnock has won reelection in georgia tonight, much more ahead, stay with us! ♪ ♪ ♪
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i mentioned earlier that the losing candidate tonight, u.s. senate -- republican herschel walker made remarks to his -- the crowd at his headquarters tonight, that we're not technically a concession, but they were conciliatory words. we want to play for you some of what mr. walker had to say: >> i want to thank all of you nt to th ank all of you as well, because we had a tough journey, had we not? >> yes. >> one of the things i said, that when they call the race, i said, the numbers doesn't look like they are going to add up. but one of the things i want to tell all of you, you never stop dreaming. i don't want any of you to stop dreaming, i don't any of you to stop believing that america, i want you to believe in america, continue to believe in the constitution, and believe in our elected officials, most of all. >> believe in the constitution, believe in our elected officials most of all.
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my colleague chris hayes is standing by with our team of political insiders. chris? >> all right, i'm back here with jim psaki, simone sanders townsend and michael steele. well, i suppose that could have been worse, simone? >> you know what -- i thought it was -- i thought that was good. he said believe in the constitution, kind of maybe a jab at donald trump who essentially said he wanted to tear it up, or have someone validated, believing your elected officials they are people across the country who have lost faith in the system. >> he also said that numbers don't add up. which is like you know, that's the big -- lie >> it's another way of saying, we did not win. and then he shifted to but let's still be dreaming. i don't know that means for a future, but he sort of conceded, sort of conceded. >> he struck a tone. and it's a tone different from what we have heard from republicans who have lost races. we still have kari lake who is challenging, right now. it's a race that has been certified for heaven sakes.
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>> although, we have to, say herschel walker, with that, again, herschel walker with that conciliatory but if not outright constituents, because essentially a concession -- join the ranks of republicans that essentially have done the same thing that now stands on an island, with our donald trump. the two of them on the island in mar-a-lago. like physically -- >> vice presidential nod hard. but >> just, final, quickly, tonight it struck me tonight that we talk about diversity, and diversity our strength, the multi racial coalition, -- the prophetic -- one of the great outstanding contributions of this nation, of the human civilization. the prophetic black church, seeing that there, and seeing how complicate the coalition, the democratic party has to keep going, to eke out these two point winds. you know, one accomplishment it is, frankly, to get all that work, right? to get all the oars in the water in the same direction, like it has now four times in a row in these races -- >> yeah, i think what they did really well is that they continue to evolve. there is no question that the
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warnock campaign finisher finished the general election they had an actual meeting and they said that, where did we not do well? where can we do better? that's why they ran all those ads targeting asian american communities, where there was a decrease in vote from the 2021, and you have to continue to meet voters where they are, and try to reach them in a variety ways, and they did that very well. >> and it has to, be to jim's point, an infrastructure, to -- outside infrastructure. and it -- i go back to stacey abrams and she was not successful in her bid for governor this time around. but the work that she did to invest in that state, to demonstrate that -- >> going back a decade -- >> going back a decade is the reason that raphael warnock -- six years the senate. >> republican party 1 million dollars. okay, this is what you are going to do, no autopsy. call the candidates, go back to what we did in 2010, and before, and the absentee ballots, vote by mail. >> yes.
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>> given the early voting is one of the craziest strategic blunders of the party. >> -- voting one-on-one. this is not a complicated process. have a message, have a candidates, and put those to work on behalf of the parties. >> the last point i would like to hear today i like to hear thoughts on this one, michael. i think it will be better if american politics were less racially polarized and if both parties were essentially multiracial coalition that have to deal with the complexity on the diamond-ism dynamism that have to make up for the -- herschel walker was the sort of strange symbolic end this year, recruiting class, had more -- of color than ever i'd seen a long time from the republican party. but the deep work here, at the coalition level is still not happening. >> the deep work is -- we did the deep work in 2010. nikki haley, tim scott, suzanne martinez. we had -- we had it, we had the work. they undid the work. so the reality right now for
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this party is, you have good quality, you have that diversity within the party. it's elevated. you elected john james to congress and michigan. very strong, fine, military guy. a strong businessman, a family man. you have packages. just let them rise. let that cream rise and get rid of the sour milk that is trump and the infection that he gets to the party. jen psaki, simone sanders, and michael steele -- >> we prefer to think of ourselves as the liminal -- sort of neither here nor there -- we are just on the edge, always. listen, i want to go back to just one practical point. we have just about 90 seconds here before we need to take a break. but in terms of what happens next year, i think you guys were right earlier, to say, what happens next year's judges. the democratic party right now can has free room to maneuver
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in terms of democratic nominee, joe biden's nominees to the federal bench. and there's no reason -- if the republican-controlled house is not going to sign on to constructive legislation for joe biden to sign, which i don't think anybody is expecting, i mean, we should expect them to be sprinting on judges now, should we not? >> he's already set a record in how he's going to go even faster. and we have seen in all this trump litigation the importance of this, and the supreme court rulings this, year more than we have ever seen it before. republicans ever since roe v. wade have been obsessive about the courts, and a federal judge appointment. this is the year, it seems to, that many democrats voters finally got it. and they've got a former chairman of the senate judiciary committee, as president of the united states, and he has been ramming them through! >> a historic night, as georgia elects senator raphael warnock to a full term in united states senate, the first african american elected to a full term in the united states senate from georgia, it gives
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>> good evening, once, again i'm stephanie ruhle. it is midnight on the east coast and 9: 00pm out west. and the final election of the 2022 midterms has officially been decided. senator raphael warnock is keeping his seat. nbc news projects that he has won the georgia runoff, defeating republican challenger herschel walker. warnock will be georgia's first black senator to serve a full six year term in the senate. >> it is my honor to utter the four most powerful words ever spoken in a democracy. the people have spoken! >> [applause] >> the race, however, was extremely close with warnock and walker, swapping leads all
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night long. democrats will now have a clear majority in the senate with a 51 seats. let's bring back in tonight, jason johnson, a politics and journalistm professor at university, and at morgan state university and msnbc political contributor. he joins us live from warnock's campaign party. jason, you have been there all night talking about the enthusiasm, the excitement. they have got to be happier than ever right now. >> oh yeah, stephanie! the real party is a starting now! people are breaking out, going upstairs, going downstairs, cheering. i gotta tell you, stephanie, this was a national election. so you had people, while the results were coming in, texting their friends in california and michigan, pennsylvania, and telling with them what's happening on the ground. you had celebrities, a lot of african american celebrities showing up because they wanted to be a part of tonight's celebration. it is going to be a party throughout the city of atlanta for the next day to have. don't be fooled, rafael warnock said tomorrow, we go back to work, but the city of atlanta,
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going to be doing a different kind of work tonight! >> what do people there got warnock over the finish line? again, it's a different that he did win, but it was very close. >> well, stephanie, here's a thing, it wasn't that close. georgia's only recently a purple state. and there is an advantage for a lot of republicans. so it was -- it wasn't close if you really think about what the ground actually look like. but the difference was the number of organizations that were here. we heard about the new georgia project. we had about operation black votes, but there are other organizations, we votes we win. other organizations for latino -- making this work. and at the end of the day, raphael warnock had more organizations working for him than herschel walker, who really took pretty much a vacation between the midterm elections and now. >> so you talk about the new georgia project. it's just about to be the model for all sorts of states across
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the country? >> it would be the model if every state has stacey abrams. but they don't! so -- you know stacey abrams was one of the cofounders of the new georgia project. i think it's a mistake, and even the activists who organizers, says ages abrams herself would say. this is a mistake to try to repeat the magic of georgia in texas and mississippi. they have to find their own indigenous political heroes. they have to find organizers who are committed to not just showing up six weeks before election day, but six years before election day and setting the groundwork. people here were telling me the importance of this race is because in six years, and then i somehow file warnock has to run, this will be a blue state. georgia will become a like virginia. and that is because they've been putting in the work over the last ten years. so that's what you have to do in south carolina. that's what you have to do in north carolina, to make that change. it's not about one person, it's a coalition of organizations. >> jason johnson, stay close to us in georgia, we'll be back to you soon. i want to bring in our experts,
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democratic strategist james carville, who helped of course elect former president bill clinton in the early 90s. juanita tolliver, a veteran political strategist to progressive candidates and causes, and reed gallant joins us. cofounder of the -- he's worked on a number of gop campaigns including john mccain, i don't schwarzenegger, and george w. bush. -- for more public, and former u.s. house of representatives, he is now chairman of the serve america movement and an msnbc political contributor. mr. carville, i turn to you first, what a big take away? >> well, first of all, it was an election that we lost in november by -- we got wiped out statewide. came back in one. let me give you the tip of the hat to post this. pauses got this exactly right and i was so gratified to see that senator warnock gave his political professional great shout outs. the young man you know -- really great, quinton folk's campaign manager.
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and -- and i think that this is a value of good campaigns. and i think what it really did well is -- like foresight, and cherokee, in fayette, and we got -- we are learning to compete in a lot of different places, not just be an urban open educated party. and i thought there is some real positive takeaways here tonight, and senator warnock's campaign, and the democrats. and i will to congratulate them. >> juanita, what is your take away? >> look, i think reverend senator warnock said it best, the people have spoken! and i think a lot of that comes into also what jason mentioned, the representative and the chemo will williams mentioned. this is about year round organizing, multi cultural rising organizing to be able to turn up because what we are seeing in the counties that senator had won, he outperformed himself even from
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just a month ago. that shows a steady stream of workouts was ready to go, on the, ground the mom of the runoff was confirmed. but i also appreciate senator warnock's talking about how this was, that he personally defied the odds. talking about his mother's history picking cotton, picking tobacco, to not picking his son up as senate, or a senator, but also the systemic way that he has defied odds with voter suppression, running rapid in the state of georgia. espy 202 it was clear and present throughout this runoff cycle and try this election. remember, they cut the runoff time from nine weeks to four weeks. they eliminated drop off locations, close polling locations, purge voter rolls, did everything they could to prevent people from turning out. but through that multicultural, through that every single day effort to turn out and mobilizing engaged voters,
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georgia organizers, georgia volunteers, and georgia voters defied the odds again tonight. >> david, herschel walker -- was not qualified because of the position, obviously. clearly a major outlier. were you surprised with how close this still was? >> no. and i think that this is a very important. says that this is not a close election. i get it, it doesn't feel like a close election tonight when you are on the winning side. this was an exceedingly close election! >> 1. 7 million people voted for someone who just weeks ago was talking, where was versus vampires. >> and exceedingly close election with a terrible republican nominee. and i think sober minds in the covering weeks will be saying, what if there was a different republican nominee? and some, ways in the runoffs, we had bad nominees two years ago chris purdue and loeffler were so tangled by donald trump. now you have, you know herschel walker. but let me just -- in the realm of opportunities. what are the opportunities for democrats coming out of this? they did see, as you heard the georgia state cherry mentioned this. coalition building. and that is different from consider what we saw this cycle, different from what we saw two cycles ago. democrats was wrestling about who is more moderate, or progressive, and what is the goldilocks temperature of ideology. it was actually about building a coalition and letting voters
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see themselves in that coalition. neither party has perfected that. if democrats continue to pursue that narrative of building a coalition, or mo voters can see themselves in the party, watch out! now it won't be a close election. what about for republicans? i am amazed tonight, stephanie, that's after a few weeks of antisemitism, a white supremacy, of saying that we are worth a shred the constitution, and now being reminded that donald trump cannot pick candidates -- that we have not seen the person who says -- i'm going to take republicans to the next level. where is timid ron desantis tonight? where is make mike pence tonight? what is shy mike pompeo tonight? because they are not looking to lead the party tonight to the next up, because now is the time! we're coming up a conversation of white supremacy and hate, antisemitism, and terrible candidates like herschel walker, and desantis, pence, they're not able to out-and say that we are done with this guy? but it tells me that they just waited for donald trump to die. and -- and -- think about this. [laughter] nobody's actually ready to say that now is the time to take the republican party forward? that's the time!
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and now in brass tonight -- we're gonna hear on the morning show. tomorrow >> we'll, great return right here, within the last, our fox news lower income says on his. i shouldn't say that she was placed at donald trump. who brought us herschel walker, courtesy of the celebrity apprentice. she saying that she is mad at the establishment gop. the establishment gop has been biting their tongues, quietly hating trump four years, but never had the guts to say it. >> they say that, loud it is his party. it does party tell us. not as david, said they want him to go away, whatever that means, and i think to -- >> what is a party no one wants to go to. [laughter] >> but you know? what or 50/50 country. we talk about 50 1:49 as it gets a majority. it's two seats. but in today's america, that is a majority. republicans have a nine seat majority in the house, that is a big majority. right? we are 50/50 country.
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remember, that if it's a little bit different weather, right? if some people decide not to stay in line in november, right? herschel walker could already be senator-elect. he had the benefit in november of brian kemp's machine to pull him along, he didn't have it this time, even though brian kemp, botox brian kemp i like to call him, wanted, wanted walker, why? because you want to run for president to anyone or knows he needs that maga piece, and he has to find that bona fides after getting a fight with trump. >> mr. carville, what do republicans learn from this? right? it is anything that we see, the country wants something practical, we don't want the extremes -- but when you look at congress, when you look at who kevin mccarthy, might be surprising himself by the coming weeks, that doesn't seem very practical centrist. >> what this point, don't nominate the cool young which is a south louisiana word, for wow! but i want to go to something that mr. jolly said that i completely agree with. the democratic party is a party coalitions. and coalitions have to learn to
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live with each other, and build on the coalition. not overly emphasize one or the other parts of the coalition. and the republican party, and i'm sure mike jolly would agree with me, it's allowed itself to turn into a cult. only a cult would nominate someone like herschel walker. all right? a coalition is what -- what senator warnock talked about. it's expanding him. and he branded all over georgia, and he made himself accessible to all of georgia. that is the model of how we win elections. we are part of a coalition! and everybody in that coalition has a responsibility to move the ball forward. because a coalition is always a better way to go then a cult. -- >> can i just, i'll just add, very quickly, and thank you james -- democrats right now are just tapping the potential here. we know there is this restless independent, this disaffected voter base that has swung in the last couple of elections. and it swung towards --
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it swung away from republicans. democrats need to grab that! they need to own it! and you know what? it will be a party of 60% of the country if it figures out how to do that. >> and i thought it was important to that senator warnock invoked his fate, which is something that a lot of democratic candidates don't do, obviously he's a pastor, so that makes sense for him. but also, i think that case may be some white soft republicans who are churchgoing, saying, you know what? maybe this is a part of that it could be a part of. because a lot of the party now is identified by its coastal elites, not often identified with religion. and then the coalition piece is absolutely right -- it's a large block of democrats, enough republicans, and just enough independents, who say i can't do it anymore. i'm just done with them. >> juanita? >> but republicans are going to learn absolutely nothing from this exercise. they are going to still fall behind trump! he's lost in three elections,
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he's lost them plenty of senate seats! i think it was said earlier tonight that this is the first, i guess, first time term presidents who didn't lose an incumbent senator since roosevelt? like that is thanks to trump! he said republicans up for this loss, he handpicked herschel walker, and they cleared the field for him falling in line behind him as the other gentlemen has seen! because the gop is a cult, and they will bow down to trump, every single time. so even though he has cost them so much, i expect them to learn absolutely nothing from this exercise! >> but do they have a choice, read, because even if trump's base is shrinking, he's got a stronghold over than? >> we don't have any evidence yet that his base is shrinking. we don't know. no one is running -- >> they're not big enough to win elections? >> well that's, right where they are big enough to win a primary. right? and everyone is like, oh, he only needs 30%. he owns well more than the 30% of the republican party right now. >> while republicans -- we'd say, why don't they just
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dump trump? can they? >> i don't think so -- >> well possible -- >> they say that they can't win with them and you can't win without him. and guess what, they own this moment, all those cowards created this moment. you cannot win a national general election with donald trump, but republican nominee cannot win without his base. and -- and so what happens if trump runs in the primary and loses to pompeo, pants, and desantis, and then alleges fraud. and the maga stays home? >> and then make sure they stay. >> republicans on this moment. welcome to the wilderness. enjoy your walk. >> mr. carville, what do you think? >> i agree with a lot of what people are saying. this is obviously a good night for democrats. but we have got to remember, it's a red state. they won the governorship in november by seven. they won every statewide elective office and we have to build our coalition. we cannot depend, in the future,
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on nominating -- they may wake up and not -- i hope they continue to do that. but i think jolly is right. we have a golden opportunity to build a real coalition. i'll remind people, listening to the show, that the 2024 senate map is not very good for democrats. and we have to get on this stick, and broaden our base, broaden our appeal, and campaign everywhere. i just want to make that point. you know, feel good tonight -- but go look at that 2024 senate map, it will sober you up. and it will reinforce the things that we are saying tonight, and the necessity of building a broad based coalition, appealing to voters all across the. country >> juanita, i see you nodding your head -- >> right, when -- when james carville said campaign everywhere! that was the other big point of representatives that -- representative nikema williams, who is also chair of the georgia democrats, emphasized. they didn't take anything for granted!
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and if i'm the dscc, if i'm the democrats in the senate, i am making sure that that 2024 map is early investments! steady investment! and infrastructure developed, starting tomorrow. this shows that with those early investments, with that long term engagement, something can happen for democrats! they can flip some seats. they can hold some states that our risk in 2024. so that is critical. is, define your opponent early. because what we have seen is, republicans put up all these low quality candidates, trump handpick these low quality candidates, i fully expect that to be the game in 2024. and so if that is something that democrats can do well if they are consistent and defining those republican opponents, one thing senator warnock did extremely well is he stayed level. he let herschel walker's words speak for themselves. they had ads, the last and he put out was a voters reaction
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to the asinine -- coming out of herschel workers walkers mouth. that's how you come across the map. >> >> reed, what is that all that say with joe biden and what that says now. -- talking chips manufacturing in a city, phoenix, that actually is doing extraordinarily well from an economic perspective. that's compared to the rest of the country. >> yeah, he's doing what he should do. he's out there being a successful president. right? legislatively, politically, they understand what they need to do on capitol hill, with a very narrow majority. again, this was not president obama in 2009, with 60 votes in the senate. he did this also with republican votes, which you mentioned over unbox, they're just going bananas about -- >> they're not being honest about who they are angry about. >> well listen. >> how can you really blame ronna mcdaniel -- >> 24/7 of lies over the, as they are never honest about anything. they're blaming everyone because they hate the
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establishment, they hate mcconnell, they hate mccarthy, even though they are going to use him like a rag doll. and so i think what you are seeing now is the opportunity for president biden to go out -- there if he wants to -- know when he's going to tell him no except for doctor biden, would be my guess. >> okay, we are out of time, but david jolly, i would say you know him best. what are we going to hear from mitch mcconnell tomorrow? >> so who's going to step out and blame candidates and donald trump? mitch mcconnell is probably early in person. he was a candidates matter. understand, mitch mcconnell doesn't care so much about herschel walker, he'd love to have the georgia seat. he wants to twist the knife into rick scott. rick scott is mitch mcconnell's nemesis, rick scott had a terrible cycle as head of senate campaigns, mitch mcconnell is going to drive the bus over rick scott and backup, drive it over and again. >> i'm pretty sure he knows how to do. we will leave that there, james carville, juanita tolliver, read gallon, no one needed -- simone sanders townsend,
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for a 50 to 49 majority and they've got it! nbc news projects raphael warnock won tonight's senate runoff in georgia. so let's bring in former white house press secretary and msnbc host jen psaki and symone sanders-townsend, former spokesperson for vice president
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harris and host of the show symone on msnbc and peacock. let's talk about tonight. senator warnock said the people have spoken. you've been speaking to people in georgia not just today, tonight, but for weeks. what is your take away? >> yeah we had a peacocks peacock special on georgia. one of the takeaways is that reverend warnock built very fast coalition, a coalition with infrastructure, that stacey abrams worked to create in that state over a decade. >> isn't that sad for stacey abrams? stacey abrams built this house and she doesn't get to live in it -- >> someone recently described her to me as moses. look, i think unfortunately as a story, and i said this right after the general election. this is a story that black women know all too well. sometimes you do not get to right reap the benefit of the work that you put in. the but because of what stacey abrams has done, georgia is competitive. i don't believe it's purple, i i think it's you know my read is that it's pink. georgia's competitive, the work
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that stacey abrams did in 2021, a lot of georgians saw themselves in the election of a young jewish millennial, john ossoff, and a black pastor, to sense of georgia, one who a passer. ebenezer baptist church was just reelected tonight. so i think the coalition is piece is important here. and what this means for electoral politics going forward. >> 51 to 49. explain to us what this means. why it's so different. i mean, kyrsten sinema, a lot less powerful tonight than she was yesterday, but beyond that. >> well, look the huge difference between 50 and 51 in part because of committees. because committees with the 50/50 split are split, 50/50, depending on you know whatever the numbers are. and that means that this means the democrats will have the majority in committees. that means they can push through judges on the judiciary committee. that means they can pursue nominees and other areas. it also means that they can push policy votes to the floor more quickly. now maybe that doesn't mean that you are getting a major piece of legislation pass, but it does mean they can make republicans vote on tough
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things. and i'm sure that they will do that too. >> let's talk about that. we often hear, listen, republicans still have the house, they're not gonna get everything, or anything done. not all republicans in congress are hard-core maga republicans. >> no. i mean maga, the hard-core maga republican candidates are rejected in those most recent midterm election. the margin in the house a small. maybe i'm -- maybe i'm just an optimist, jen, i don't know. but do you think they're going to be republicans that are gonna be willing to play ball with democrats in the house, democrats in the senate, and the white house on key pieces of legislation. they come from part -- they got elected in trouble purple places. purple places where folks want to see things getting done. they do not want to see their elected official spending time on oversight hearings that don't mean anything that aren't substantive, and are a very affront to the constitution and founders that many of these republicans in congress say that they were revere. playing games for the constitution, and games with
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the republic -- now. i do think that this is going to -- be i think that people should buckle up. it will be very interesting right. but i do believe that some things are going to be able to get out. it's not going to be easy. but this is a different house, a different dynamic than we've seen in a really long time going into 2023. >> joe biden coins himself the bipartisan president and he's out already gotten a quite a bit down from a policy perspective. what do you see in the months ahead? >> i think you have to wait and see. i hope that this is the case. >> i'm optimistic! i'm optimistic! it's true and symone and i were talking about this moments ago. for those republicans that are available, they can't just go full marjorie taylor greene. -- there were more than 80 bills, bipartisan, bills that had passed in the first year of the biden presidency. >> do people -- i want you to look in the camera and say that one more time. >> they were more than 80 bills, bipartisan bills, that have passed in the first year of the biden presidency.
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there were things that made peoples lives better. it is possible that that sort of thing could happen. will it be the big one with huge bill signings at the white house? maybe not. but that's okay. >> the infrastructure bill was bipartisan. >> that's true. >> people forget that. >> but even if it's not that big they are still things that make peoples lives better. and if you can get the majority votes, that's what you need to get things done. >> -- this idea about judges or the now judges can get confirmed more quickly. the biden administration was confirming judges and this president has put more black women on the federal bench than any president in history. and given that we nowadays, everything has a legal angle people are just running into the courts to federal courts, and appeals, courts to run into the supreme court to elevate something and get something done. and so it's very, very important that the courts are represented at the depth and breadth of the american people and people who were sitting on those federal seats are people
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who have experience. >> but some, where ron klain is highlighting a list of judges and more people to get through. >> he's sending emails right now. >> he sending emails. because it does make it easier for them to move them more quickly through the judiciary committee and that means republicans cannot play procedural games and delay it. and they did, as symone he said, get a record number of judges through. and they can get even more. that's a bench that democrats have not always been good at building. >> okay. stay on that. because ron klain might have his highlighter out and he might be marking it all night long. >> -- make a digital. >> what he does not have, though, is the federalist society, which republicans have been building over decades. and to your point, democrats have kind of been slow in figuring out how important this is. and judges are on the bench for life. >> okay. here's where i disagree. because the federalist societies actually dictating who republicans should nominate and be confirmed. what democrats have been -- doing and there are a number of good judicial groups out there,
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democratic groups, -- justice does amazing work. there are a lot of good ones. they have been really researching, vetting and building slates of a diverse candidates. and not just diverse in demographics, but diverse in terms of their experience. and that is important to have representation on judicial benches as well. >> you have, people who are public defenders not just prosecutors. >> exactly. >> not just ghost hunters or -- >> practice law -- >> one other point that i think this vice white house is looking at, at least the vice president's, office now with 51 senators, vice president kamala harris is no longer the tie breaking vote on everything. that frees up for schedule -- >> she can go out and travel! she doesn't have to be handcuffed. >> honey, i remember when i worked at the white house, i was, like when is the senate vote, we or can we go, she can't go on this day. these changes thing for the vice president and the work that her team is doing. >> well we will be watching. thank you so much, symone
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> just because people endured long lines, that wraps wrapped
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around buildings, some blocks long, just because they entered the rain and the cold, and all kinds of tricks in order to vote, doesn't mean that voter suppression does not exist. it simply means that you, the people, have decided that your voices will not be silenced! >> [crowd chanting] [applause] >> this edge of your seat senate election in georgia has been a learning opportunity for campaigns in both parties. we're happy to have monica simpson with us executives director for the sister song women of color reproductive justice collective. kenda scott joins us, ceo of the new georgia project action fund. and political strategist, and ace election forecaster rachael bitecofer. she almost perfectly predicted the 2018 blue wave. i want to talk policy, ladies. monika, let's start with abortion. democrats wanted to make this a
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big issue in the senate race. was that a guy strategy? who came out? >> absolutely! this was an issue that no one could ignore. when we have the dobbs decision that was just so traumatic, so to so many people, this issue was something that this any candidate was looking to look in political office. they had to make sure that they were addressing, and it became a huge issue for everyone on the ground. when will for people in georgia and all across this country, we know what abortion access is something that people need, something that they deserve, and so it was really important for everybody who was coming out during this political season to really center, this week because our bodily autonomy, our ability to make our decisions, about our family creation, about our rights, our bodies, is something that is fundamental to the liberation work and the social justice work. and the political work that we are also so committed to. >> kendra, the new georgia project has spent years mobilizing, activating voters. what did you see as the top issues driving people to the
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polls? >> in addition to reproductive health, and the reproductive justice, as has already been mentioned, voters want expanded health care, voters want affordable housing, voters want an increased living wage. and all of these things from the ballot. people were proud of the fact -- and we sell real, tangible benefits -- from the 2021 runoff and the 2020 election, when we got joe biden to the presidency. what folks realized was, the student loan forgiveness, you know, the public service loan forgiveness program, the debt relief that we received with student loans, all of those things are real things, tangible things that we could point to on the doors. what we know here, the new georgia project, is that our voters are very sophisticated and they both on policies! so, what we do is, we connect the dots, we take those heart issues, and we teach people how to be super voters. it's not ever about a particular candidate, it's
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about the policies that people want to see over the long term. and that is what this long term relational organizing is about. campaigns come and go, we are going to be here, three 65, 365, regardless! teaching people the importance a voting and we connect them to the electoral process. >> we often hear that people get motivated to about because they are angry, because they are last, out because they want something different. rachel, in many instances, tonight, we're people voting for raphael warnock, because he's delivering? because they are doing well? because if you look at the economy, in georgia, in many cases, it's doing better than other parts of the country. think about the port of savannah, city of atlanta, it's extraordinary the success that they've had. so are a lot of people voting because they are saying, this is going well for me and i want more of it. >> yeah, i mean it come -- it's incumbent on campaigns and candidates to convey that message, and i think the warnock campaign is pretty ace in that regard and i do think
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it is necessary but not sufficient, i think the two ladies that are on this meeting with me are really as pivotal, that on the ground organizing and this happened in the state of georgia over the last half decade. it's just really does provide that framework for a strong and successful statewide candidacy. so i wouldn't want to take anything away from that organizing but ultimately, i think that message components of warnock -- the jobs, not mobs. and ultimately, that's what the message was. it's about delivering for people, verses lawbreakers and sham investigations. and you could hear that's on the stump. every time i heard about her a voter on the stump, hey, i'm voting because i'm afraid, or i'm afraid of democracy, i'm afraid for my bodily autonomy, i feel threatened -- right? and i understood that that was also a component part, and we really need to acknowledge, i think that there is to some degree a backlash effect happening in states like
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georgia where we we are seeing political realignment of some longtime gop voting blocs, especially white college educated voters joining this coalition of democrats and coalition all democratic traditional supporters. and it really does provide, i think, a really bright opportunity in the sun belt, across georgia, north carolina, in florida, texas, and arizona, and other states. >> kendra, one of the night's biggest stories is the even deeper divide between blue urban and ruby red rural georgia. just how divided is the state now? because truthfully, when you talk to both of those people, there are just looking to take care of their families. they want a good job, they want health care, they want good schools -- yet they don't see eye to eye on almost anything. >> well i agree with that, i do want to make sure folks understand that there are a lot of black and brown folks in those ruby red counties, and we reach out to those folks every day. and those folks, we poll those
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folks, we talked to them, and you are absolutely right. people do want the same thing. and there is a political divide -- i think that urban rural divide is always going to be there. but i want to be clear in this moment that rural is not synonymous with white. and i think across the country, a lot of people make that assumption. there are a lot of latino voters that live down in south georgia. there are a lot of black voters are lit out in south georgia, and those folks are showing up and showing out. and they want real results. what is happening at you are seeing is a result of extreme gerrymandering in our state. while i agree that yes, there some coalition in this runoff because herschel walker was such a unqualified candidates, i want every one of the viewers to understand here, that -- understand here, georgia, inside of the 1 to 59 counties outside of the federal elections, it will be red itself. because of gerrymandering. we don't have won a state constitutional officer that is not a republican. both chambers of our state legislature, are controlled by the republican party.
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so yes, we have these winds, federally, but we have a lot of work to do which is why i continue to do investment in these organizing, these grassroots apparatus is, is critical if we want to continue to move the needle towards progress in the state. >> do you feel like you can't move the needle in those counties that are so, so barry gerrymandered? >> i think that we can. let me be clear. i am a person who is gerrymandered. i was recently gerrymandered into marjorie taylor greene's district, so i'm living this reality in cobb county georgia right now. and i still have a smile on my face, we are fighting the good fight, because people out here that believe -- again, it takes that 365 days a year relational organizing, to build trust in these communities so that people get out. we can out organize bad policy. we shouldn't have to, but we have, proven ourselves time and time again when people have thrown us away and left as for dead. the south has something to say,
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and i think tonight -- everyone has seen it. this is not a fluke. georgia, the demographics have shifted -- we are resolved too make a difference in this state, and we intend to spread our knowledge across the rest of the region. when you hear people make these little quips about, oh, let them succeed. that's crap, man. we are down here we're working, hard we are excited what's going, on and kudos to all of the organizers who have been out on the ground, working hard for this victory tonight! >> all right, i know i'm out of time, but monica, of to, i have to ask you, before we go, yet again, how important were black women voters tonight? >> black women voters continue -- continue -- to be the driving demographic that continue to push the needle, that continue to save our democracy. black women were so incredibly important to this vote and black women continue to show up across all of these issues, from voting rights to reproductive justice to
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economic security, because we truly understand what this means, not only personally, but for our communities and for our families. and so, if we just continue to trust black women in this country, then we will continue to get wins like we got in georgia tonight. and i'm excited about the energy that black women bring to this democratic process, to democracy. because we continue to show up over and over again in this country. and we continue to lead this country in terms of progressive values. >> raphael warnock's mother once picked other peoples tobacco. and tonight, she picked her son to be a senator of the state of georgia. monica simpson, kendra cotton, and rachel bitecofer, thank you for joining us tonight. when we come back, it's been a very, very tough day for donald trump, not just on the political front, but on a legal one. barbara mcquade is here. on what the former president and his businesses are up against -- against --
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problems are stacking up yet again. -- found his company guilty of tax fraud. special counsel jack smith subpoenaed local officials in swing states for their communications involvement -- trump. and the january 6th committee says it expects to make criminal referrals of the justice department. so, let's break it down and bring in barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. barbara, let's talk about what this means for the trump organization.
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because it was a week ago we heard the news that trump penned a huge real estate deal with a saudi arabian real estate developer for a four billion dollar project in oman. does this -- put all this at risk? >> it does, not necessarily. but i think anytime that you have got a conviction for a felony by a corporate entity, there is some concern. oftentimes, whenever there is a deal, a loan that is secured by a company, there are often clauses in it that say that things can trigger changes in those terms, like a criminal conviction. so, it could be that an entity like saudi arabia or anyone else could call a lone, loan as a result of it. if this is -- the company, a fine of one one point $6 million, probably not a huge price tag in light of all the other kinds of transactions that the trump organization does. but the reputation will harm that a criminal conviction does
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with all kinds of other things in jeopardy, like loans, like business deals. >> i don't know. 1. 6 million dollar sounds like pennies. jared and ivanka made 600 million while working in the white house. and he is now running two billion dollars of mbs's money. talk to us about jackson's jack smith's subpoenas. how big a deal are they? >> it strikes me is interesting in a couple regards. one is, jack smith is wasting no time. the date on these was november 22nd, which was within days of his appointment as special counsel. subpoenas requesting communications records from courts offices in three of these swing states, where they were fake electors -- so, it could be really revealing, really interesting to see if there are any of those kinds of records between those counties and donald trump or others. the other thing that it says to me is, how could they not have asked for this already? how is it that, here we, are almost two years after january 6th, and they are just now asking for these? i can only imagine the conversation that jack smith had, we are all the communications records -- trump and all these clerks offices?
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and the group is saying, oh, what? we have not asked for those. yet you have not what? let's get those right away. so, it's a, he's looking hardworking looking for important things but perhaps some gaps that have existed in the investigation to date. >> was he asking or perhaps with the screaming? what do you expect about these possible criminal referrals from the january six committee? we heard they could be coming. but we don't know to whom. >> yeah. i think it will be interesting to see. there was even a question as to whether these would even -- and i think chairman thompson said we will have to wait and see what they are for. so, it's hard to speculate before then. but you have to really take liz cheney at her word that she thought the committee had produced evidence of conspiracy to defraud the united states, obstruction of an official proceeding. you think about all the people in that cast of characters and it's hard to imagine that that
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would not include donald trump and john eastman, jeffrey clark, and some of the other people who were part of that plot to try to subvert the election. so, we will wait and see. but i would imagine it includes at least those three, if not others. >> all right. adding to the long list of hard-core trumpers who do not want to open their mouths, michael flynn has now been ordered to testify to the georgia grand jury, the one investigating this election interference. and we know what they want to learn. but let's be honest, it's michael flynn. what are they really going to get? >> maybe not too much, stephanie, but it's really important for fani willis to talk to anyone who might have been involved in these efforts. because you want to lock in their story now. it may be that he does not tell you much. it may be that he truthfully cannot tell you much. but what you don't want you to have happen is you -- mike flynn strolls in and he's got some big story about how it -- is all a big mistake. so, we want to find that all
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out now and a grand jury is the way to do that. >> all right, barbara mcquade, thank you very much. and for you at home, thanks for watching. i wish you a good night and, based on the time of day it is, a good morning. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying late a late with us, next -- i will see you at the end of today, basically. see you later. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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protected the winner of the senate race in the united states senate seat in georgia, it's raphael warnock,
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democratic incumbent defeating his republican challenger, herschel walker. steve kornacki, we know what the result is now. we've been watching with you over the course of the night as these results have come in. welcome to us about how this ultimately, although i came down? what was the bottom line story here about how warnock won? >> yeah, i think there are a couple of stories here within this, we start with the core democratic strength which is this immediate atlanta metro area here. and this is where warnock, remember that he finished, first to get over 50% but he came for us in the pulmonary. this is the air that pardon in the preliminary. we are almost all in fulton county right now but i mean warnock is sitting at 76.5%, just compare that to how he ran in fulton county, there's atlanta, this is the biggest in the state bakalova. he got 73 and a half percent in fulton county then. this was a great number for warnock in november. and he proves on it tonight. again few more votes to come in full can county and -- were not friendly. might not be quite seven 6.5%.
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it looks like above where he finished in november of where he finished in november. this is a huge one for him. that county, big one of the growing passes counties in the state. right outside of atlanta, he finish just under 59% in november tonight. he's just over 62%. this was a great number four were not back in november. this was even better number for him tonight so in these core democratic areas just hit the numbers he needed, he exceeded them so that was one problem for walker right away. he needed warnock to underperform the core atlanta metro area, that's not happen. the other thing that walker was counting on again if you look back at that november general election, in georgia, if you took the senate race out of it, it was a good night for republicans in georgia back in november. brian kemp got reelected, brad raffensperger got reelected, they won statewide elections. the one who is lagging behind all the other republicans was herschel walker. so that was the other
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question, these big republican vote producing counties. we talk tonight about cherokee county, this is the biggest republican votes producing county in the state. you can see that walker wins it, he doesn't do that much better than he did in november and this is what kemp in november, this is what kemp was getting out of cherokee county. he was getting 74% of the vote. walker still couldn't even get, he barely got a 69% tonight, he needed to be in the 70s in cherokee county. he needed bigger numbers and the big republican counties that are just outside of the atlanta metro area. so he had some good numbers in the rural areas, but the bottom line is in the big republican counties he didn't improve enough, and then the core democratic areas, he did not contain warnock's strength, and warnock wins the race. >> not enough offense and not enough defense. i think we can go live right now to herschel walker's campaign headquarters where he is speaking. he is just wrapping up. did mr. walker concede? we go live to this right now, he looks confused. ♪ ♪ ♪
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herschel walker just gave remarks to his supporters that he didn't formally concede, but he said conciliatory words. he talked about having fought a good fight, which implies that the fight is over. so concession and conciliation, i am parsing, but that is--i will take it as positive. >> the other big quiet winner tonight is a president of the united states who becomes the first one since 1934, since franklin roosevelt, to not lose a single senator of his own party in the first midterm election. there are so many astounding comparisons that you can make between joe biden and other presidents, but you have to reach very far back, you have to go back to franklin roosevelt, and no one has been more underestimated as a presidential candidate going into the presidency. what governing he would be capable of with a 50/50 senate all
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along, and how obviously he was going to lose the senate in his first midterm, and he held on to it. >> what about the other quiet winner? sanity. america showed us again, they were not going to vote for crazy. herschel walker was a fully unqualified, out of the box candidate, and america said, or georgia said no thank you. the question is, is the gop watching and listening? because if you look at the house, it does not appear that way. >> well, i mean that said, the house in any normal political science model should have swung 30, 40, 60 seats to the house--to the republicans. and kevin mccarthy maybe it is going to be taking over as house speaker if he can cobble together the votes. with a majority that you can fit in one hand. that itself is almost as a historical a result as a senate result that you are talking about right now. and the combination of those two things tells you that it is not
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any one race and its not anyone crazy candidate, it is joe biden leading this democratic party in a way that is honestly not having electoral success like this since after--. >> and the thing is not joe biden always had, he is the arithmetic mean of normal. he's just normal, average, moderate guy. >> joe! >> average joe! >> and it turns out that that is a very popular model because remember, barack hussein obama put the name aside, what was he? a normal guy, right? he gives you non-kuckoo. and i think that at the end of the day, we talked about this a lot tonight, the republican strategy has always been theatrical. really since ronald reagan. it has
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been give you theatrical character, give you former actor, i think we said it before, they nominated goober. they nominated the guy from the love boat. they keep looking for theatrical celebrities, that model works temporarily, but at a certain point people do get exhausted, and they actually do like policy. and biden has proved that policy actually works. >> the thing that you are seeing in biden is someone who has done this better than anyone i have ever seen which is that he is using his experience wisely. you know, experience can sometimes be a weight to when you move up to the next level in politics and in governing. and you do not quite know how to use it. he has used it so wisely. when you look at previous presidents who have anything comparable to his experience, you have to look at lyndon johnson who was majority leader of the senate and then the vice president. he just wrecked it, he could not use his experience to make it work. joe biden has been so wise in the use of his own experience. >> i believe that this is an election where no incumbent lost their primary or general election bid. which is an important distinction. >> well, now -- >> in the senate.
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>> sorry, sorry. >> yeah just on the senate. >> there's a number who decided that you have to go home. >> oh sure. >> give up. >> winning the white flag. >> we are waiting for the victories speech from incumbent senator raphael warnock has been reelected in the state of georgia. while we are awaiting his victory speech we will bring back into the conversation congresswoman nikki mel williams who chaires the democratic party of the great state of georgia, which is having a moment right now. congresswoman, thank you so much, and congratulations! >> we won! >> you are lighting homes across america with the expression on your face right now! [laughter] we have to give you a warning, if senator warnock star speaking it we will jump in, and i apologize in advance if i need to interrupt you. >> that is okay, i want to hear him too! >> put into words how you are feeling in what you attribute this victory tonight? >> rachel, i think earlier tonight, i knew that we were going to show up. we organized and every corner of every county, and never took any vote for granted. we knew that this
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would come down to the wire. we knew that every vote would count, and that is why we kept working until the polls closed today. actually, until 7:20, because one polling location in my district stayed open until 7:20 pm and we never stopped organizing. so, this victory is for democracy, it is for the voters of georgia who have been the center of the political universe, cycle after cycle, i think that someone said earlier that this didn't just happen in 2020, i have been an organizer on the ground in georgia for over a decade now. and we have been gaining cycle, after cycle. even in the state legislative seats. we picked up seats in the house, and the senate this cycle. we are putting in the work in delivering for every day georgians for the work that we are doing at the democratic party in georgia. i am proud to
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be the chairwoman, we have partners in this work, all over independent groups, my husband, shut out to my husband leslie small with american votes who has been organizing independent partners. and i mean, it has been a collective. we are both multi racial coalitions. because it takes all of us to win for the people. >> tell me, what is your secret sauce, what is the secret sauce in the georgia democratic party? right now you are firing on all cylinders, and you are not always on the most favorable terrain. but as you say, going, back election cycle after election cycle, democrats in georgia have been showing the rest of the country how to do it and have been winning improbable races and making things that once seemed impossible, now seem likely. and i think that there is a lot of democratic parties around the country, different state parties who really wish that they had some of that secret sauce that you all have in georgia, that you have been able to apply to not always favorable to rein in your state. is there something that you are doing that other state parties aren't doing that they could learn from you? >> it is building those
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multiracial coalitions, rachel. and the year round organizing cannot be overstated. we have to stay out there and meet voters where they are every single day, and that is what we are doing at the democratic party of georgia. i am proud to be the chairwoman, i am the first black woman to chair the state party. and i am so proud of the work that we have done and i think that my senator, did he just come out on the stage? >> oh, everybody is getting there, we can tell, we have got eyes on, it don't worry. >> my senator, my constituents, i am excited tonight, rachel. >> let me ask you one other question just from pundit land. i feel like some of the way that we talk about this, i include myself in this, and it is reductive and wrong, but some of the ways that we talk about this is about the strategic decision to try to energize the base, feed the
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base, serve the base, turn out the base, organized a base, versus appealing to swing voters, appealing to defectors from the other party, appealing to independents who might otherwise be not necessarily motivated to turn out for an election like this. i say we are being reductive in that because i think we often presented as an either or. and now looks like the way that senator warnock won this reelection was by doing both and almost in equal measure. is that fair? >> you are absolutely right, we do not have the luxury to pick and choose voters, we need people where they are, and that includes the urban dwellers in atlanta, the moderates is what i like to call them, and i grew up on a farm in rural alabama. we meet people where they are. >> the chair of the democratic party of georgia, i told you that we would have to say goodbye when your senator walked out onto the stage, and here he is. congresswoman, congratulations tonight. tonight, america, you are looking at the newly reelected democrat u. s. senator from the state of georgia, the reverend raphael warnock. let's see what he has to say. [crowd chanting] ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> six more years! six more years! six more years! >> wow! [applause] >> well hello everybody! y'all settled down, now. settle down. [applause] [crowd chanting] [applause] >> thank you, georgia! [applause] thank you. [screaming] [applause]
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i love you, too. all right, y'all settle down. [laughter] [applause] >> we love you! >> i want to say thank you! from--thank you from the bottom of my heart. and to god be the glory. [applause] [screaming] for the great things that god
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has done. [applause] and after a hard-fought campaign [applause] >> very hard! >> or should i say campaigns? it is my honor to utter the four most powerful words ever spoken in a democracy. the people have spoken. [applause] [applause]
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i often say that, a vote is a kind of prayer. for the world that we desire for ourselves, and for our children. voting is faith put into action. and georgia, you have been praying with your lips and your legs. with your hands and your feet. your heads and your hearts. you have put in the hard work, and here we are standing together. [applause] i
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want to say thank you. >> thank you! you're welcome! >> and i want to say, i want to say thank you to my mother who is here tonight. [applause] [applause] you'll see her in a little while. but she grew up in the 1950s. in waycross,
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georgia, picking up someone else's cotton, and someone else's tobacco. but tonight, she helped pick her youngest son to be a united states senator. [applause] my dad has long passed into the light. but he is still very much with us. i watched my dad, a pastor and a small businessman, take care of his family by working really hard with his hands. and using his brain, and he picked up old junk cars, and loaded them up on a rig that mechanisms of which he designed himself. one on top of the other. and that is how he took care of his family. but on sunday morning, the man who lifted broken cars, lifted broken people.
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[applause] and convince them of their value. i would not be here were it not for them. i am a proud son of savannah georgia. [applause] a coastal city known for its town squares and it's cobblestone streets. tall, majestic oak trees, dripping with spanish moss. then in the back of history of culture into the city, by the
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sea. my roots, like the roots of those oak trees go deep down into the soil of savannah, and waycross, and burke county, i am georgia. [applause] i am an example, and an iteration of its history. of its pain and its promise of the brutality and the possibility. but because this is america, and because we always have a path to make our country greater, against unspeakable odds, here we stand together. thank you georgia! [applause] so, i want to thank my mother and my late
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father. i want to thank my siblings who were here, i'm one of 12 in my family, and my folks read the bible, be fruitful and multiply. [laughter] her family with short on money, but long on love, long on faith. and i want to thank my two darling children. [applause] chloe and caleb. who is brilliance, and whose odds inspired me to work for all of our children. georgia, i do not want you to miss what you have done, and a
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moment in which there were folks trying to divide our country and those forces are very much at work right now, georgia did an amazing thing. in 2021, it sent its first african american senator and its first jewish senator to the united states senate in one swoop! [applause] and you have done it again, thank you georgia! [applause] now there are those who will look at the outcome of this race and say that yes, you are right, we won! [applause] but there are those who will look at the outcome of this race and say that there is no voter suppression in georgia.
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let me be clear, just because people endured long lines, that wrapped around buildings, some blocks long, just because they endured the rain and the cold, and all kinds of tricks in order to vote, does not mean that voter suppression does not exist. it simply means that the people have decided that your voices will not be silenced. let us not forget, let us not forget that when we entered this runoff, a vestige of the ugly side of our complicated
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american story, state officials said that we couldn't vote on saturday. but we sued them, and we won! [applause] and the people, once again, rose up in a multiracial, multi religious coalition of conscience; you endured the rain, you endured the long lines, and you voted. and you did it because you believe, as i do, that democracy is the political enactment of a spiritual idea. this notion that each of us has within us a spark of a divine,
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that we were created in the image of god. and if you are not given to that kind of religious language, that is fine, our tent is big. [applause] simply put it this way, each of us has value. and if we have value, we ought to have a voice, and a way to have a voice is to have a vote to determine the direction of your country, and your destiny within it. and so, we stand here tonight on broad shoulders. >> thank you stacey! >> our ballot -- we stand here on the shoulders of the martyrs, cheney, goodman, to jews, an african american who lost their lives, fighting for the great american to vote. >> i will
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always, our james, fadeaway, sister white, brother who also lost their lives. family nohema, that indomitable, that indomitable mississippi sheriff -- and my parishioner, god bless his memory, john lewis, who when they [applause] lost the bridge, knowing that there was danger on the other side, and yet he crossed that bridge while building a bridge for the future. and now, it is on us. the latest generation of americans, and of georgians, to
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keep building that bridge. >> take a time pastor! >> to keep walking that long walk, pushing the nation towards our ideals. so georgia, this is my promise to you, the work that we must do is difficult. the issues are not simple, they are complex. but here is my promise to you, i will walk with you, even as i work for you. [applause] because here is what i have learned as a pastor: you cannot lead the people unless you love the people. you can't love the people unless you know the people, and you can't know the people unless you walk among the people. [applause] you cannot serve me if you cannot see me. so during these
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difficult days, even as i work on specific public policy proposals, and i offer bills, and work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to get those bills passed, i just want you to know that i see you. i see you, parents, as you are trying to put your kids through college, community college, technical college, i see you students as you are trying to make a way out of no way. and icu essential workers, fighting for a livable wage to participate in the prosperity that you create for others. farmers who are an answer to our most basic prayer, give us this day our daily bread, and yet they struggle to hold on to the farm. farmers, i see you! i
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am here with you. and together, we can work through all of these issues. and i won all of georgia to know whether you voted for me or not [applause] [applause] i get it! but i want -- [applause] i want all of georgia to know whether you voted for me or not that every single day i am going to keep working for you. i am proud of the bipartisan work i have done, and i intend to do more. because i actually believe that we are all americans. i believe in the
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american covenant. -- and it is that covenant that drives me to work to lower costs, to lower the cost of prescription drugs, to create jobs all across our state. >> two address the issue of criminal justice reform. , because i believe that you can have justice and safety at the same time. good >> so thank you for this high honor! >> you're welcome! >> after -- after a hard fought campaign, you got me for six more years! [crowd chanting] [applause] [screaming] [applause] [crowd chanting] >> six more years! [laughter] six more years! six more years! six more years! six more years!
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six more years! [applause] [crowd chanting] >> so, let me -- let me quickly do a couple of things. i want to thank my amazing campaign staff. [applause] >> led by quinten fulks. [applause] >> i want to -- i want to thank my amazing senate team led by marc libel and my state team. [applause] >> my state team led by meridith lilly. [applause] >> i want to-- i want to thank loris bell who had a crazy idea!
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[applause] that i should run for the senate -- i laughed, and here we are! and i want to thank the amazing people of ebenezer baptist church! [applause] >> who amidst the attacks, stuck with your pastor. thank you ebenezer church. so let's celebrate for a little while on this mountain! let's dance because we deserve it! >> yes! [applause] >> but tomorrow we go back down into the valley to do the work! [applause] i know that the days are still difficult, the times are dark,
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but the light, the scripture says shine in the darkness and the darkness overcomes if not, i'm ready to keep doing this work! i can hear my dad and blessed memory says, get up! get dressed! put your shoes on! get ready! are you ready georgia? ! >> to do the job! >> i'm ready! stand up for workers! stand up for women! to stand up for our children! i'm ready! to build a stronger georgia, god bless america, keep the faith, and keep looking up! [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> making the case implicitly for the election of more pastors as politicians. [laughter] at least those who could speak as eloquently as they ebenezer baptist church in atlanta.
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senator raphael warnock, the first african american elected to a full u.s. term, a full term in the united states senate of georgia. talking about a vote as a player for the world that we deserve, for ourselves and our children. talked about his mother who picked cotton, who picks other peoples'tobacco, and who today helped pick her son from the united states senate. what a room! >> yeah. >> and when you elect a pastor, you're gonna get a sermon. >> every time he talks! >> this is one of the reasons that raphael warnock really is one of the greats political stars of the democratic party. first, about winning and what is still a red state. winning, you know, against that race, you know against a camp
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machine because that's really who is running the other side of that race. winning a second time -- >> all there is is as mom! he featured her in some of his ads. but you know, you're gonna -- if you are electing a pastor, or you are struggling to get a shout out, you're gonna get a little god review in their! [laughter] but i think he does speak to a four fundamental moderation. the democratic party has been good at modeling. whether the candidate is a white or black, whether it's shapiro, whether it's him, you know -- whether its governor of michigan. the big grand gretchen whitmer, you get a good moderation with democrats. the big risk for republicans is that they have let go of moderation. so that means that independent voters, including college educated white voters, the temptation now is that you can take the risk. lindsey graham i think ois ne of the biggest viewers loses tonight. daily show put out a tweet saying that he called on conceive on behalf of herschel walker, that he called rafael
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warnock. the idea that the only way to appeal to white voters is with wild theatrical that appeal to their fears about races, and religion, it's a problem long term. because fundamental moderation is a small political stretched. and democrats argue that. >> test point of the democratic star of the democratic party right now, let's look at the practical consequences the fact that he has had to run for office four times. and you heard the crowd, you know, saying six more years, six more years. one of the things that he can now do is that he's gonna have six years and which he can just be a senator. >> that was the first speech he got to give to an audience, both in the room, and nationally without impending election hanging over him. >> and i guess i'll be united senate, and we see that he's gonna be a national figure in the republican party in the form. >> even though he had to run 17 times -- whatever the actual math was--made his mark in the last two years. you know? became the face of the-- was really involved in the key priorities for the biden administration. he mentioned working across
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aisle with republicans in the speech, but also said repeatedly, i see you. i see you, struggling parents, i see you students, i see essential workers. and with warnock, you get the sense that this is not just rhetoric. this is the foundation of his candidacy it's to help people. >> yeah. >> and the american covenant it's also illuminates that. >> coming from a strong, place and beside people who are struggling, the state of georgia right now comparatively speaking, is doing quite well. and he is in office. the economy, they are back to better jobs numbers than they've had before the pandemic. it's becoming an electric vehicle hub. gas is now under $3 in georgia. so, a lot of people in georgia are doing quite well so that argument from the republican party, democrats are handing you such a horrible hand, that they are suffering. they are not! what they want is something better. and he spoke tonight about delivering that. >> but he also, i'm a daughter
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of a lot of hospitals closing. they all have a fundamental economic issue. and so at this, point moderate issues include health care. it includes making sure that people can actually go to the doctor. he has been -- he's done a lot of legislative work in that area. and i think that you -- we have to expand kind of the vision of what kind of moderate politics looks like. it looks a lot more progressive now. because people have really economic needs. >> lawrence, can you talk a little bit about his prospects in the senate? not talking about electoral prospects, but a prospect as a senator? i mean obviously, one byproduct of the georgia runoff system, despite its troubling origins, is that a senator who wins a runoff in georgia has a spotlight to himself. there aren't other senators who when they win their elections and get the whole night dedicated to it like this. you combine that with his fundamental competence and his brilliance as an order. in fact that he is a young, man he does have the entire democratic party across the country pulling for him, and he's incredibly recognizable figure. what does that proton for this term for him in the senate? >> he just changed the lives of 50 democratic senators.
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they are now part of a real majority, and for the first time, they are actually part of committee majorities which is going to change their lives dramatically! they -- the chairs of those committees are all indebted to him because they now will have a majority of one on the committee where now they had even members of both parties on the committees. it changes the way that those committees work in profound ways. and they all -- all 50 of these democratic senators, all you know every one senator is watching this tonight. republicans, every one of them, they heard every word of that. lindsey graham listened to every one of that. but the democrats listening to every word of that know that they have--not just a new star, but they have to whom that they are all incredibly grateful. for giving them that this real majority for the first time that many of them will experience.
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many of them have never been in this majority before. >> let's test that live. because the senate will be a 51-49 split with the democrats and the majority and one of those senators, amy called, wishart i senator from minnesota, chair of the democratic steering committee joins us live now. she's been watching these results along with all of us. she does not senator warnock's speech. senator klobuchar, congratulations to you and your colleagues! when it, but we expect your lives will be a bit easier in the senate with senator warnock back among you. >> well, for sure, right about the practicality of this. our lives are easier. but for, me this night was just a celebration. i was so happy and to the point, when you have a pastor, you're gonna get a sermon! i mean i just gave me goose bombs! and he used that moment, on the national state, and he does time and time again, in the senate. not mincing words, and focusing on things like freedom to vote and making sure people
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understand that yes, he won, but didn't talk about hey great i won. he went back and talk about that there was voter suppression here. people couldn't vote on saturdays. we thought it and he pledged to go forward and fight for voting rights. i sat in rooms with them when there was no media, no, stage and no glowing audience in front of them. and he did the same thing. so here in the valley, as you know, he ended the speech saying that we must go back to the valley to work. here i am! we are very excited to have rafael back, and i can just tell you that every senator loves the guy. and yes, this is about the big issues, and we do think drug prices and fighting for health care, having peoples back, and, yes senator schumer and our team. it was an incredible team effort. but in the end, there is one guy on that stage giving that sermon and leading us through this night to the light. so we couldn't be happier for raphael, tonight. >> it's great to have that insight for you from what he is like as a colleague. we've seen an interview subject and as a campaigner.
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but as a senator, he's had to fight -- he's had to go back to the voters, again, and, again and again. and the two years that he has been in the senate, but now he's settling into a six-year term. and i wonder, looking at georgia, thinking about your own state, thinking about the other purple to red to blue, the swing states -- -- they didn't all winds that are wide in these midterm elections, but he managed to. ¦> > he did-- >> and some of that is about herschel walker, but some of that is about him. >> it is, and the work that humid and stacey abrams have done with, in building the party, they're reaching, out of bringing a new voters, bringing enough course african voter voters, spanish, voters asian voters, it's incredible. let us know as you talked about reaching out to the independents and moderates. but i think the other lesson here is, you know, the shadow
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of donald trump, it was a looming over the midterms, looming over this election. it was only this last week where he said he wanted to terminate parts of the constitution. well it is georgian voters, democrats, independents, moderate republicans, who stood up two years ago, stun the nation, once in raphael said they elected their african american senators, first to our senator, and basically defeated two incumbent republicans. who would've thought that would've flip the senate? they did that. and a lot of this was georgia saying we believe in democracy. and you saw that repeatedly where over 30% of people that voted democratic in this election said they did it, in large part, because of our democracy. i don't want us to forget that and how important it is, that's why rafael talked about voting. but also, freedom of women, freedom of their own health care reproductive choice. that was on the ballot throughout the midterms. so all of this, i hope our republican colleagues, as you, said we're watching.
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and instead to cut down the number of voters that they changed their policy, and they changed their candidates. because what we saw here, once again, was a candidate that rose to the occasion and won. >> senator a. b. klobuchar,, senator thank you for being here as we are reacting to the speech, and also great to see you! >> great to be on, thanks rachel! >> all right, we got much more as we come. back nbc news projects that democratic incumbent u.s. senator raphael warnock has won reelection in georgia tonight, much more ahead, stay with us! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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losing candidate tonight in the u.s. and race in georgia republican herschel walker made remarks to his -- crowd at his headquarters tonight, that we're not technically a concession, but they were conciliatory words. i want to play for yourself of what mr. walker had to say: >> i want to thank all of you as well, because we had a tough journey, had we not? >> yes. >> one of the things i said, that when they call the race, as of the numbers don't look like they are going to add up. but one of the things i want to tell all of you, you never stop dreaming. i don't any of you to stop dreaming, i don't any of you to
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stop believing that america, i want you to believe in america, continue to believe in a constitution, believe in our legit of officials, most of all. >> believe in the constitution, believe in our elected officials most of all. my colleague chris say the standing by with our team of political insiders. chris? >> all right, thanks rachel. i'm here back again with jen psaki, simone sanders town, and michael steele. well, i suppose that could have been worse, simone? >> you know what -- i thought it was -- i thought that was good. he said believe in the constitution, kind of maybe a jab at donald trump who essentially said he wanted to tear it up, or have someone invalidated believing your elected officials they are people across the country who have lost faith in the system. >> he also said that numbers don't add up. which is like you know, that's the big lie-- >> it's another way of saying he did not win. and then he shifted to but let's nola be dreaming. i don't know that means for a future, but he sort of conceded, sort of conceded. >> well he struck a tone and it's a tone different from what he heard from republicans who have lost races, we still have kari lake who is challenging, right now. a race that has been certified
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for heaven's sakes. >> although we have to say, we have to say with herschel walker, as herschel characterized it up how concessions speech. join the ranks of republicans that essentially have done the same thing that now stands on an island, with our donald trump. the two of them on the island in mar-a-lago. like physically -- >> eyes a presidential not hard. >> just a final quickly tonight, it struck me tonight that we talk about diversity, and diversity of our strength. the multi racial coalition. just watching what hour, not picking about prophetic tradition, the black, derek one of the great contributions of america, one of those outstanding contributions of this nation, of the human civilization.
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the prophetic black church there saying that there. and seeing how complicated the coalition, the democratic party has to keep going to eke out these two point winds. you know, what an accomplishment it is, frankly! to get all that to work, right? to get all the oars in the water and the same direction like it has now four times in a row in these races. >> yeah, and i think what they did really well is that they continue to evolve. there is no question that the warnock campaign finisher general election they had an actual meeting and they said that, where did we not do well? what can we do better and that's why they ran all those ads targeting given american american communities. there is a decrease in both in 2021, and you have to continue to meet voters where they are, and try to reach them in a variety of ways, and it is at that very. >> and to that point that has to be an infrastructure just to see what those capping decisions are outside infrastructure. and that is the work, i go back to the stacey abrams. you know she was not successful in her bid for governor this time around but the work that she did to invents in that state, then much of the georgia is a -- >> -- >> going back a decade is
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the reason that raphael warnock would now serve 68 senate. >> the republican party 1 million dollars, okay, this is what you are going to do not topsey. -- the candidates, go back to what we did in 2010, and before, and the absentee ballots, but by mail. >> yes. >> given the early voting as one of the craziest strategic wonders of the party. >> voted one on -- on one people. it's not a complicated process. have a message, have candidates, and put those to work on behalf of the parties. >> the last point i would like to hear today i like to hear thoughts on this one, michael. i think would be better that american politics were less racially poor lies and if both parties were essentially multi racial coalitions, would have to deal with the complexity and the diamond-ism that makes up pluralistic multi racial politics. you know herschel walker was the strange sort of like symbolic, and this year the recruiting crowds had more kind of color that i've ever seen in a long time from republican party. but the deep work there at the coalition level is still not happening.
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>> the deep work is - we did a deep work in 2010. nikki haley, tim scott, suzanne martinez. we had -- we had it, we had the work. they undid the work. so the reality right now for these party is -- we have good quality, you have that diversity within the party. it's elevated. you elected john james to congress of michigan. very strong, fine, military guy. strong businessman, a family man. you had the packages. just let them rise. let that cream rise and get rid of the sour milk that is trump and the affection that he gets to the party. >> dan sake symone sanders, jen psaki, i feel better about myself, i feel like i got more insider. >> rachel, back, to the outsiders, i suppose. >> yes, exactly. [laughter] we like to think of ourselves as the limit of figures. side of not, here not, they are not, helping not hurting, we just on the edge. always. [laughter] it's and i will go back to one practical point that we just got about 90 seconds or before we take a break.
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but, it's a little happens next, here i think that you guys are right earlier to say, what happens next year's judges. right? that the judges democratic party can, three rooms remover -- joe biden's nominations, the federal bench, and there is no reason, if the republican gets, arouses they're not gonna sign on to construct legislation, for joe biden to sign, which i don't think anyone is expecting. i mean, we should expect him to be sprinting on judges now, should we not? >> we'll already set a record, and i was gonna go even faster. and what we have seen in all of this trump litigation, the importance of this, and in addition to the supreme court rulings this year, more than we've ever seen it before. republicans, ever since roe v. wade had been obsessive over the courts, and federal judge appointments. this is the year, it seems to, many democrats voters finally got it. and they've got a former chairman of the senate judiciary committee, as president of the united states, and he has been ramming them through! >> a historic night, as georgia
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alex senator raphael warnock to a full term in the united states senate, the first african american elected to a full term in the united states senate from georgia, it gives democrats a clear 51 seat majority in the united states senate. still a lot to unpack and our coverage continues right after this! stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ who's on it with jardiance? ♪ ♪ we're the ones getting it done. we're managing type 2 diabetes and heart risk. we're on it with jardiance. join the growing number of people who are on it with the once-daily pill, jardiance. jardiance not only lowers a1c, it goes beyond to reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease. and jardiance may help you lose some weight. jardiance may cause serious side effects including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, (that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function), and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection
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good evening, once again, i'm stephanie ruhle. it is midnight on the east coast and 9:00 p.m. out west. and the final election of the 2022 midterms has officially been decided. senator raphael warnock is keeping his seat. nbc news projects he has won the georgia runoff defeating republican challenger herschel walker. warnock will be georgia's first black senator to serve a full six-year term in the senate. >> it is my honor to utter the four most powerful words ever spoken in a democracy -- the people have spoken. [ cheers and applause ] >> the race, however, was extremely close, with warnock and walker swapping leads all
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night long. democrats will now have a clear majority in the senate with 51 seats. let's bring back in tonight, jason johnson a politics and journalism professor at morgan state university and an msnbc contributor. he joins us live from warnock's campaign party. jason, you have been there all night, talking about the enthusiasm, the excitement, they got to be happier than ever right now. >> oh, yeah, stephanie, the real party is just starting now. people are breaking out. going upstairs, going downstairs, cheering. i've got to tell you, stephanie, this was a national election, so you had people, while the results were coming in, texting their friends in california and michigan and pennsylvania and telling them what's happening on the ground. you had celebrity it's, a lot of african american celebrities showing up because they wanted to be part of tonight's celebration. it's going to be a party throughout the city of atlanta for the next day and a half.
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don't be fooled, raphael warnock said tomorrow we go back to work, but the city of atlanta think it's different tonight. >> again, it's extraordinary that he won, but it was very close. >> well, stephanie, it wasn't that close. georgia is only recently a purple state. and there is an advantage for a lot of republicans, so it was -- it wasn't close, if you really think about what the ground actually looked like. but the difference was the number of organizations that were here. we hear about the new georgia project. we hear about operation black vote but there's other organizations, we vote, we win, there's organizations for latinos, asian americans, it was a huge coalition of people who were on the ground making this work. at the end of the day, raphael warnock had more organizations working for him than herschel walker. who really took a vacation between the midterms and now. >> you talk about the georgia
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ground, is this going to be the model for all sorts across the country. >> is it would be a model if every state had stacey abrams, but they don't. it's a mistake, even the activists and abrams herself will say this, it's a mistake to try to repeat the magic in georgia in texas and mississippi. they have to find their own indigenous political heroes. they have to find people who don't just show up six weeks before election day, but six years before election day and setting the groundwork. the importance of this race, in six years, the next time raphael warnock has to run, this will be a blue state. georgia will become like virginia, because that's what they've been putting together in the last years. that's what you have to do in south carolina, to make that change it's not about a person, it's a coalition of organizations. >> jason johnson, stay close. i want to bring in
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democratic strategist james carville who helped elect bill clinton in the '90s. juanita tolliver. and bill gamlynn joins us, he's worked on a number of gop campaigns including john mccain, arnold schwarzenegger and david jolly is here. he's chairman of the movement and msnbc political contributor. mr. carvelle, i turn to you first, what's your big takeaway? >> well, first of all, we lost in november by the votes, and then back, a tip of the hat to postis. got this exactly right, i was so gratified that senator warnock gave his political professionals a big shoutout. the young man they tell me is really great, quinton falk, his
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campaign manager. i think this shows good campaigns. i think what it did well is the counties like forsyth and cherokee and fayette. we've got to learn to compete in a lot of different places and not just be an urban overeducated party. i think there were positive takeaways tonight from senator warnock's campaign and the democrats. and i really congratulate them. >> juanita, what's your takeaway? >> look, i think reverend senator warnock has said it best, the people have spoke. and as jason mentioned and wyokemia williams mentioned this is about multiorganizations turning out. senator warnock outperformed himself even from a month ago, that shows a steady stream was ready to go on the ground the moment the runoff was confirmed
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but i also appreciate senator warnock talk about how he personally defied the odds. talking about his mother's history, picking tobacco for now picking her son for a senator. also the systematic way, he defied it, voter suppression running rampant in the state of georgia. sb 202 was clear and present. remember, they cut the runoff time to four weeks, they did everything they could to prevent people from turning out but through that multicultural attempt to mobile ice voters georgia voters defied the odds tonight. >> david, herschel walker would not qualify for the position. >> right. >> obviously. clearly a major outlier. were you surprised with how close this still was? >> no, and i think this is very
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important. jason says this is not a close election. i get it, it doesn't feel like a close election when you're on the winning side. this was an exceedingly close election. >> 1.7 people voted for someone who was talking werewolves versus vampires. >> i think in the coming weeks, we'll say what if there had been a different republican nominees. in some ways in the runoff you had bad nominees because purdue and loeffler were tainted by donald trump. and you hear coalition building. consider what we saw this cycle from two cycles before. democrats were talking about what's the temperature of ideology. it's actually about building a coalition and letting voters see themselves in that coalition.
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neither party has perfected that. if democrats continue to pursue that narrative of building a coalition where more voters can see themselves in the party, watch out. now it won't be a close election. what about for republicans? i am amazed tonight, stephanie, that after a few weeks of anti-semitism, of white supremacy, saying we're going to shred the constitution and now being reminded that donald trump cannot pick candidates, that we have not seen the person who says i'm going to take republicans to the next level. where is timid ron desantis tonight, where is meek mike pence tonight? where is high mike pompeo tonight? they're not looking to lead the party to the next step because now is the time. we're coming off the conversation of anti-hate and anti-semitism, but pence and desantis aren't saying we're done with this guy.
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what it tells me is they're waiting for donald trump to die. if there's a republican with brass in the country tonight, you'll hear them on the morning shows tomorrow. >> reed, weigh in here, fox news laura ingraham saying i'm pissed. she didn't say she was pissed at donald trump who brought us herschel walker courtesy of "silent apprentice" she said she's mad at the establishment gop. the establishment gop has been biting their tongue quietly hating trump for years but never had the guts to say it. >> they'll never say it out loud. it's this party. like david said, they want him to go away, whatever that means. >> it's a party no one wants to go to. >> you know what, we're a 50/50 country. we talk about 51/49 like it's two parties, it's two seats. republicans have a nine-seat majority in the house. that's a big majority. we're a 50/50 country. remember, if it's a little
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different weather, if some people decide not to stay in line in november, right, herschel walker could be senator-elect. he had the benefit in november of brian kemp's machine to pull him along. he didn't even have that, even though brian kemp -- botox brian kemp wanted walker, he wants to run for senator, too. and he had bona fides. >> when you look at the extremes, when you look at congress, when you look at who kevin mccarthy might be surrounding himself by in coming weeks that doesn't seem very practical or centrist? >> first, don't nominate a -- a south carolina word for clown. i want to go to something that mr. jolly said that i completely agree with. the democratic party is a party
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of coalition. and coalitions have to learn to live with each other and build on the coalition not overly emphasize one of the part of the coalition. the republican party, and i'm sure mr. jolly would agree with me. that allowed themselves to turn themselves into a cult. only a cult would nominate somebody like herschel walker. a coalition is what senator warnock talked about, expanding it, and the brand, and made himself accessible to all of georgia. that's the model of how we win elections. we are part of a coalition. and everybody in the coalition has a responsibility to move the ball forward and win. because a coalition is always a better way to go than a cult. i congratulate mr. jolly for his statement. >> can i just -- very quickly, thank you, james. democrats right now are just tapping the potential here. we know there's this restless
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independent, disaffected voter base that has swung in the last couple of elections, and it swung towards dems, right? it has swung away from republicans. democrats need to grab that and own it. you know what, it would be a party of 60% of the country if it figures out how to do that. >> and i thought it was important, too, that senator warnock invoked his faith which is something that a lot of democratic candidates don't do. i think that makes sense for him, he's pastor. a lot of the party is identified with its coastal leads, not religion. and just enough republicans and independents who say i can't do it anymore. i'm done with them. >> juanita. >> republicans are going to learn absolutely nothing from
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this exercise, they're going to follow behind donald trump. he's lost them three elections. this is the first term president that didn't lose an incumbent senator since roosevelt. he hand-picked herschel walker and they cleared the field for him, falling in line behind him, as the other gentlemen has said because the gop is a cult, and they will bow down to trump every single time. so even though he has cost them so much, i expect them to learn absolutely nothing from this exercise. >> but do they have a choice, reed? because even though trump's base is shrinking, he's got a strong hold over them? >> we don't have enough evidence that his base is shrinking. >> they're not big enough to win elections? >> that's right. but they are big enough to win a primary. he owns well more than 30% of the republican party right now. >> do republicans -- do they
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say, why don't they dump trump, can they? >> i don't think so. you can't win with him and you weren't win without him. >> right. >> guess what, they own this moment, all of those cowards created this moment. you cannot win a national election with donald trump but a republican nominee cannot win without his base. what happens if trump runs in the primary and loses to pompeo, desantis and pence, then the mob is fraud. republicans own this moment, welcome to the wilderness, enjoy the walk. >> mr. carville, what do you think? >> i agree with a lot of the people saying this is obviously a good night for democrats but, you know, we got to remember, the republicans -- it's a red state. they won the governorship in no november by seven. it won every statewide elected office. we have to build our coalition. we cannot depend in the future
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on them nominating idiots. they may wake up and know that. i hope they continue to do that. i think mr. jolly is right. we have a golden opportunity to build a real coalition, now, i remind people who listen to this show, that the 2024 senate map is not good for democrats. we have to get on the stick and broaden our base and broaden our appeal and campaign everywhere. you feel good tonight, go look at that 2024 map, it will sober you up and reinforce the things that we're saying tonight in the ability in broad base coalition in appealing to voters all across the country. >> juanita, i see you nodding your head. >> right, when james carville said campaign everywhere. that was the other big point that representative nikema williams who is the chair of the georgia chair emphasized they
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didn't take anything for granted. if i'm the dnc, i'm making sure that 2024 map gets early investments, starting investment and infrastructure investment starting tomorrow. this shows with that long-term engagement something can happen for democrats they can flip seats and hold seats in 2024. so that is critical. the other part is define your opponent early because what we have seen, republicans put up all of these low-quality candidates. trump hand-picked the low-quality candidates. i believe that's the game in 2024. that's something that democrats can do well if they're consistent and defining the republican moments. one thing that raphael warnock did extremely well, he stayed level. he let herschel walker's words speak for itself. the last ads he had was voters
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reacting to the asinine things coming outside of herschel walker's mouth. >> reed, what does this is a for joe biden, he didn't physically go to georgia and campaign to raphael warnock. he apparently didn't need to. he's in arizona talking chip manufacturing in a city, phoenix that is doing very well economically compared to the rest of the country? >> right, he's out there doing what he should, he's a successful president. legislatively, politically. they understand what they needed to do on capitol hill with a very narrow majority. this is not president obama in 2009 with 60 votes in the united states senate. he did this with republican votes which you mentioned over on fox just going bananas about. >> they're not being honest about who they're angry about. >> listen, 24/7 lies on there. they've never honest about anything. that's neither here nor there. they hate mcconnell, they hate
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mccarthy, even though they're going to use him like a rag doll, what you're seeing is the opportunity for president biden go out there, he's going to run again, nobody will tell him know except for dr. biden, i guess. >> david jolly, i'd say you know him best, what are we going to hear from mitch mcconnell tomorrow? >> who is going to step out and blame trump, mitch mcconnell is probably the person. he will say candidates matter. mitch mcconnell doesn't care about herschel walker. he'd like to twist a knife in rick scott. mitch mcconnell is going to drive the bus over rick scott back it up, drive it over him again. >> i'm pretty sure he knows how to do that. james carville, juanita tolliver, david jolly, reed gagan, thank you very much. and coming up, the seat and
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senate democrats were hoping for a 51/49 majority and they've got it. nbc news projects raphael warnock won tonight's senate runoff in georgia. let's bring in former white house press secretary, jen psaki and simone samyn.
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host of the show. senator warnock said the people have spoken. you've been speaking to people in georgia not just today but for weeks. what's your takeaway? >> yeah, we had a peacock special on georgia. one of the takeaways, a vast coalition of the infrastructure that stacey abrams worked to create in that state over a decade. >> isn't that sad for stacey abrams. stacey abrams built this house, and she doesn't get to live in it. >> someone recently described her to me as moses, unfortunately, it's the story, i said this right after the general election, this is a story that black women know well. sometimes, you do not get to reap the benefits of you directly, the work you have put in, but because of the work that stacey abrams has done, georgia is competitive. i don't believe it's purple, mine is pink.
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but the work that stacey abrams did in 2021, a jung jewish millennial, jon ossoff and a black pastor, two from georgia, one a pastor from ebenezer baptist church that was elected tonight. >> 51/49, explain to us what this means, why it's so different, kyrsten sinema, a lot less powerful than she was the other night, but beyond that. >> yeah, the committees, the committees with the 50/50 split are split 50/50, depending on whatever the numbers are. that means democrats will have the majority in the committee. that means they push through judges on the judiciary committee. that means they can push through nominees in other areas. it also means they can push policy votes on the floor more quickly. maybe it doesn't mean you're
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getting a major piece of legislation passed but make them vote on things. >> let's talk about that, we often hear, listen, republicans have the house, they're not going to get anything done. not all republicans in congress are hard core maga republicans. no, the hardcore maga candidates were roundly rejected in the most recent midterm election. the margin in the house -- maybe i'm just an optimist, i don't know, but i do think there are going to be republicans that are willing to play ball with democrats in the house, democrats in the senate, on key pieces of legislation. they got elected in purple places, purple districts where folks want to see things getting done. they do not want to see their elected officials spending time on oversight hearings that don't mean anything that aren't substantive and affront to the constitution and the founders that these republicans in congress say that they revere, playing games with the
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constitution and with the republic, no. so, i do think that this -- i think people should buckle up. it's going to be a very interesting ride. but i do believe that something is going to be able to get done. it's not going to be easy. but this was a different house. a different dynamic than we've seen in a very long going into 2023. >> joe biden coined himself the bipartisan president. he's really gotten quite a bit done from a policy perspective. what do you see in the months ahead? >> i think it's a wait and see, i hope this is the case. symone and i were talking about this a few minutes ago, for the republicans that are vulnerable, they can't just go full marjorie taylor greene, that's not going to work for them to get re-elected. they're going to have to find a different thing. there were more than 80 bipartisan bills that passed during the biden presidency. >> look into the camera and say that one more time. >> there were more than 80 bipartisan bills passed in the
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biden presidency. they are things that make people's lives better. it is possible that sort of thing can happen. will it be the big one with huge bill signings at the white house, maybe not. but that's okay. >> the infrastructure bills were bipartisan. >> people forget that. even if it's not that big, there are still things that make people's lives better if you find the majority of the vote, that's what you need to get things done. >> on this point tonight, i heard folks decided on this idea of judges, now judges can get confirmed more quickly. the biden administration was confirming judges. this president has put more black women on the federal bench than any president in history. and given -- nowadays, everything has a legal angle. people are just running to the courts. federal courts, appeals courts, running to the supreme court to tell vat something to get something done. so it's very, very important that the courts are representative of the depth and breadth of the american people. and people who are sitting on
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those federal seats are people who have experience. >> but somewhere ron klain is highlighting a list of judges to get through. he's sending emails. because it does make it easier to move more quickly through the judiciary committee. that means republicans cannot play procedural games and delay it. and they did as sil money said get a record number of judges through. and now they can get even more. and that's a bench that democrats has not been good on building. >> ron klain might have his highlighter out tonight and marking it all night long. >> i'm thinking digital. >> what he doesn't have is a federalist society which republicans have been building over decades. to your point, democrats have been slow in figuring how important this is for judges on the bench for life. >> here's where i disagree. the federal society is dictating that republicans should nominate and get confirmed. and there are a number of good judicial groups out there,
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demand justice does amazing work, there are a lot of good ones who are researching, vetting and building slates of diverse candidates. not just diverse in kind of demographics, but diverse in terms of their experience. and that's important have representation on judicial benches as well. >> people who are public defenders, not just prosecutors. >> exactly. >> one other point that i think this white house is looking at, at least the vice president's office, now with 51 senators, vice president kamala harris is no longer the tiebreaking vote on everything. that frees up her schedule. >> she can go out and travel. >> oh, my goodness. >> honey, i remember when i was at the white house, it was like, okay where can she go, she can't go on this kay. senate is in session this day. this changes things for the vice president and the work that she's doing. >> thank you so much, symone and jen, we're going to actually go
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to sleep. they've been here all day covering. >> cheers. when we come back, georgia voters broke records deciding the last senate election in the midterms. the issue that got them to the polls when the special late night edition of the 11th hour continues. ues. i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. research shows people who take hiv treatment as prescribed and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit hiv through sex. don't take dovato if you're allergic to its ingredients, or if you take dofetilide. taking dovato with dofetilide can cause serious or life-threatening side effects. hepatitis b can become harder to treat while on dovato.
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long lines that wrapped around buildings, some blocks long, just because they endured the rain and the cold and all kinds of tricks in order to vote doesn't mean that voter suppression does not exist. it simply means that you the people have decided that your voices will not be silenced. this edge of your seat senate election in georgia has been a learning opportunity for campaigns in both parties. we're happy to have monica simpson executive director for the sister song women of color reproduct of justice collective kendra scott joins, ceo of the georgia project action fund and political strategist andase election forecaster rachel
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bitterkoffer. she predicted the blue wave. ladies, let's start with abortion. democrats wanted to make this a big issue in the senate race. was that a good strategy? who came out? >> absolutely, this was an issue that no one could ignore, when we had the dobbs decision that was just so traumatic to so many people, this issue is something that any candidate that was looking to political office had to make sure they were addressing and became a huge issue for everyone on the ground. what is real for people in georgia and all across the country, we know that abortion access is something that people need, that they deserve, and so it was really important, for everybody who was coming out during this political season to center this because our bodily autonomy to make our own decisions about our family creation, about our rights, our bodies is something that is fundamental to the liberation and social justice work and the political work that we're committed to.
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>> kendra, the new georgia project has spent years mobilizing, activating voters. what did you see as the top issues driving people to the polls? >> i mean, in addition to reproductive health and reproductive justice that has been mentioned voters want, you know, expanded health care. voters want affordable housing, voters want an increased living wage. and all of these things. and people were proud of the fact, and we saw real tangible benefits from that 2021 runoff and the 2020 election, when we got joe biden to the presidency. what folks realized was, you know, the student loan forgiveness, the public service loan forgiveness program, the debt relief that we perceived through the loans, all of those things are real things, tangible things that we can point to on the doors. what we know from the new georgia project, our voters are very sophisticated and they vote on policies.
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so what we do, we connect the dots, we take those hard issues and we teach people how to be super voters. it's not every about a particular candidate, it is about the policies that people want to see over the long term. that's what this long-term organizational organizing is about. campaigns come and go, we're going to be here 365 regardless, teaching people the importance of voting and reconnecting them to the electoral process. >> you know, we often hear that people get motivated to vote because they're angry, because they're left out, because they want something different. rachel in many instances tonight, are people voting for raphael warnock because he's delivering, because they are doing well? if you look at the economy in georgia in many cases, it's doing better than other parts of the country. think of the port of savannah, the city of atlanta, it's extraordinary the success they've had. a lot of people are voting because they're saying this is going well for me and i want more of it?
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>> yeah, i mean, it's incumbent on campaigns and candidates to convey that message. i think the warnock campaign is ace in that regard. i do think it's necessary but not sufficient, i think the two ladies on this meeting with me are really as pivotal on the ground organizing what's happening in the state of georgia over the course of the last half decade is it's just really does provide that framework for a strong and successful statewide candidacy. so, i wouldn't want to take anything away from that organizing. ultimately, that message compounded with warnock got the jobs, not mobs, right? that ultimately what the message was, it's about delivering for people versus wall breakers and, you know, sham investigations. and you could hear that on the stump. every time i heard a voter on the stump saying hey, i'm voting because i'm afraid of democracy. i'm afraid for my bodily autonomy, i feel threatened, all right? i understood that that was also
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a component part. and that, you know, we really need to acknowledge, i think, that there's to some degree a backlash effect happening in states like georgia where you're seeing political realignment of some long-term gop voting blocs, especially white, college-educated voters joining this coalition of democrats and coalitional democratic -- you know, traditional supporters. and it really does provide, i think, a really bright opportunity in the sunbelt, across georgia, north carolina, florida, texas and arizona and other states. >> kendra, one of the night's sort of biggest stories is the even deeper divide between blue urban and ruby red rural georgia. just how divided is the state now? because, truthfully when you talk to both of those people, they're all just looking to take care of their families. they want a good job. they want health care, they want good schools, yet, they don't see eye to eye on almost anything. >> well, i agree with that, i do
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want to make sure that folks understand that there are a lot of black and brown folks in those ruby red counties. we reach out to those folks every day, we poll those folks and we talk to them. you're right, people want the same thing and there is an urban divide. i think that urban divide will always be there but i want to be clear that rural is not synonymous with white. i think across the country, a lot of people make that assumption. there are a lot of latino voters that live down in south georgia. there are a blot of black voters that live in south georgia and those folks are showing up and showing out. and they want real results. what you're seeing is the result of extreme gerrymandering in our state. wool i agree that, yes, there's some coalition in this runoff because herschel walker was such an unqualified candidate, i want every one of the viewers to understand here, that georgia, inside of the 159 counties couts the federal election is ruby red
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itself because of gerrymandering. we don't have one state constitutional officer that is not a republican. both chambers of our state legislature are controlled by the republican party. so, yes, we have these wins federally, but we have a lot of work to do which is why continued investment in these organizing and grassroots 'rat tuesday is critical. >> do you you feel you can move the needle in those counties sore so gerrymandered? >> let me be clear, i was a person gerrymandered, i was gerrymandered in marjorie taylor greene district. i still have a smile on my face, we're still fighting the big fight. there are people -- again, it takes that 365 day a year relational organizing for trust in the community. we can't out-organize that
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policy, we shouldn't have to, but we have proven ourselves time and time again when people have thrown us away and left us for dead. the south has something to say. and i think, tonight, everyone has seen it. this is not a fluke. georgia, the demographics have shifted. we are resolved to make say difference in this state. and we intend to spread our knowledge across the rest of the region. when you hear people make these little quips about, oh, just let them succeed, that's crap, man. we're down here, we're working hard and we're excited and kudos to all of the organizers who have been out on the ground working hard for this victory tonight. >> all right. i know i'm out of time, but monica, i have to ask you before we go, yet again, how important were black women voters tonight? >> black women voters continue, continue to be the driving demographic that continue to push the needle, that continue to save our democracy.
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black women were so incredibly important to this vote. black women continue to show up across all of these issues, from voting rights to reready toive justice to economic security, because we truly understand what this means not only for us personally, but for our communities and for our families. so, if we just continue to trust black women in this country, then we will continue to get wins like we got in georgia tonight. and i'm excited about the energy that black women bring to this democratic process, to democracy, because we continue to show up over and over again in this country. and we continue to lead this country in terms of progressive values. >> raphael warnock's mother once picked other people's tobacco. and tonight, she picked her son to be a senator of the state of georgia, monica simpson, kendra and rachel, thank you tonight. it's been a very tough day
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for donald trump not just on the political front, but a legal one. barbara mcquade is here on what he and his businesses are up against. are up against.
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♪♪ donald trump's legal problems are stacking up yet again. a new york jury found his company guilty of tax fraud. special counsel jack smith subpoenaed local officials in swing states for their communications involving trump. and the january 6th committee says it expects to make criminal referrals to the justice department. so, let's break it down and
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bring in barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. barb, let's talk about what this means for the trump organization, because it was a week ago we heard the news that trump penned a huge real estate deal with a saudi arabiaen real estate developer for a $4 million project in iman does this put it all at rick? >> it does, but i think anytime you've got a conviction for a felony by a corporate entity there is some concern. you know, oftentimes, whenever there's a deal on a loan that's secured by a company, there are often clauses that say that things can trigger changes in those terms, like a criminal conviction. so it could be that an entity like saudi arabia or anyone else could call a loan as a result of it. he faces -- the company, a fine of $1.6 million. probably not a huge price tag in
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light of all of the other kinds of transactions that the trump organization does. but the reputational harm that a criminal conviction does puts all kinds of things at jeopardy like loans, like business deals. >> i don't know, $1.6 million sounds like penneys. jared ivanka made $6 million while working in the white house. and now running mbs's money. >> it strikes me interesting, jack smith is not wasting anytime. the date on these thing was november 22nd, days within appointment of his special counsel. subpoenaing records from court's offices in three of the swing states when there are fake electors. it could be really revealing to see if there were records between those counties and donald trump or others. the other thing this says to me, how could they not have asked
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for this already, two years after january 6, they're just now asking? i can only imagine the conversation jack smith had with them when he said where are all of the communication records between trump and the clerk's office. and the group saying, what? no, we haven't asked for those yet. you haven't what? well, let's get those right away. and he's working hard and looking for important things but also perhaps some gaps that have existed in the investigation to date. >> was he asking or perhaps was he screaming? what have you heard about the possible criminal referrals from the january 6th committee we know they're coming but we don't know to whom? >> yeah, it's interesting to see, there was even a question whether these would be for perjury, and chairman thompson said we'll have to wait and see what they're before. hard to speculate. you have to take liz cheney at her word when she said she
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thought the committee had produced evidence of conspiracy to defraud the states, obstruction of a proceeding. if you think of the people in that cast of characters, hard to imagine it would not include donald trump and john eastman, jeffrey clark, some of the other people who were part of that plot to try to subvert the election. so, we'll wait and see. but i would imagine includes at least those three, if not others. >>ed aing to the long list of hardcore trumpers who do not want to open their mouths, michael flynn has been ordered to testify to the georgia grand jury. we know what they want to learn, but let's be honest, it's michael flynn, what are they going to get? >> maybe not too much, stephanie, but it's important for fani willis to talk to those involved in the efforts. you want to lock in their story now. maybe he can't tell you much or maybe he truthfully can't tell you much.
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but what you don't want to happen you charge a case now and a year from now, mike flynn strolls in and he's got some big story about how it's all a big mistake. you want to find out now and putting him in the grand jury is the way to do that. >> barbara mcquade, thank you very much. for you at home, thank you for watching. i wish you a good night. and based on the time of day it is a good morning. for all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up extra, extra late for us. i will see you at the end of today basically. see you later. ♪♪ chase freedom unlimited. i earn 5% on our cabin. hello cashback! hello, kevin hart! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours.
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