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victory securing the release of wnba star brittney griner. but at what price? and while american paul whelan was not part of the prisoner swap and remains in russian cust dirks his brother said just moments ago he still thinks the deal was the right thing to do. >> i think president biden made the right decision. his job is to protect all americans and to care about all americans. it would have been wrong for him to leave behind ab american when he had the aublt to bring them home. >> plus new rev liegss about classified documents found in a trump storage unit. it appears to show his team is trying to comply with the justice department, but it also raises questions about what more maybe out there. and is the push to ban assault weapons gaining steam. why doctors are hoping they can convince law makers to act. i'll talk to a pediatrician who survived a mass shooting and spoke directly to members of congress. she will join me later in the

show. but we begin with that extraordinary turn of events. the kind you'd expect from a cold war thriller. as we speak, brittney griner, the wnba superstar who had just started serving nine years in a brutal russian prison is on her way home. she's headed to a san antonio medical facility after she was swapped for a russian named vuk tort bout, a global arms dealer nicknamed the her chant of death. but the joy of her release is tempered by the fact that other prisoners, most notably paul whelan, remain in russian custody. >> we never forgot about brittney griner. we have not forgotten about paul whelan, who has been unjustly detained in russia for years this was not a choice of which american to bring home. we brought home trevor reed when we had a chance earlier this year. sadly, russia is treating paul's case differently than

brittney's. while we have not yet secured his release, we are not giving up. we will never give up. >> b.g. is not here to say this, but i will speak on her behalf and say that we will remain committed to the work of getting every american home, including paul, whose family is in our hearts today as we celebrate b.g. being home. we do understand there's still people out here who are enduring what i endured the last nine months of missing tremendously their loved ones. >> such a gracious statement. i'm joined by mark kelly. griner played since 2013. is senator kelly and sinema introduced a bipartisan resolution calling for her release in july. we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us, senator. have you talked to brittney griner or her family? what can you tell us? >> chris, i did. not to brittney directly, but i

spoke to her wife earlier today. she's incredibly excited this is such a positive day. she said this is a good day with a lot of enthusiasm. and she's very appreciative for everything we did here in congress and the administration. i spoke to the white house throughout this whole process a numb of times. and it's great to finally have this concluded. just like you said here, the question of paul whelan is still out there and we're going to continue to work to make sure he comes home too. >> you did say you worked with the state department to ensure that griner's release was a top priority. can you give us your impression of how these particular negotiations ended up being so successful? >> first, i think it's important that we republic news that this was an unlawful detention. that vladimir putin, that all

indications are that he was well aware of what went on very early on this it this process. she should have never been detained. it was a tough negotiation. ultimately, this becomes about a choice. i thank the president for doing this and getting her home. she's got a couple stops before she gets back to phoenix, but i'm looking forward to seeing her in arizona here soon. >> were you surprised that the u.s. and russia were even able to make this deal? i have heard a lot over the course of the last months that for obvious reasons the complications presented by the war in ukraine and the united states support for cain could complicate things to the point that it couldn't get done. >> it did. that was obvious very early on. putin's illegal war in ukraine, he's clearly established himself as a war criminal.

we are very vocal about that, as we should be. we have to do as much as we can to make sure that ukrainians are successful in driving them back into russia. so this made it much more complicated. i talked to the state department about that a number of times and to the administration. so when i spoke to the president about this on tuesday, just a couple days ago, he was optimistic that we would have some very positive news at the end of the week. it's not quite the end of the week, so this came i think a day or two earlier than we may have expected. >> so does this joyous conclusion give you hope a deal can be reached for paul whelan and others? >> absolutely. and there are others. it's not just paul whelan there are other americans unlawfully detained. we have to do everything we can to breng them home and negotiate thundershower release. i appreciate the comments of

paul whelan's brother that you played. he understands that this was absolutely the right thing to do. it's a great day. we're going to continue to work to make sure all americans that are unlawfully detained overseas comes home. >> senator kelly, we appreciate you coming on the program. thank you so much. i want to bring in ken dilanian, who covers justice and intelligence for nbc news. and evelyn farther cuss is executive director of the mccain institute. mixed emotions. brittney griner is free, that's amazing. paul whelan is not. a senior official told nbc news that the russians took whelan off the table telling the u.s. the choice was either one or none. can you give us unsights into how the negotiations go and how tough these kinds of decisions are? >> yeah, it sounds like from the

outside certainly in the beginning, there was a conversation about a two for one that brittney griner and paul whelan would potentially be exchanged for viktor bout. because vladimir putin. ed him really badly. so atten one point, the russians probably did contemplate it. it was offered as an option. that's what we were pushing for. but it sounds like the russians decided we are putting paul whelan in a different category. they are alleging that he is a spy. the u.s. government has denied that. now there are other opportunities perhaps down the road. the germans are holding two russians who are probably intelligence operatives. one of them was just seized recently in the attempt in germany to overturn or to stage a coup like january 6 in germany. that russian that's being held by the germans perhaps is an intelligence operative, but they

decided to give the administration a take it or leave it. we'll release brittney for bout or nothing. >> you do wonder why russia might be willing to make an, change for whelan when they haven't for the last four years. maybe it might be there's somebody else vladimir putin reallys back. >> the other thing is maybe this is what the russians planned all along. frankly, why now? vladimir putin just wants something to show the russian people. he's in a really bad place right now with the russian people. just yesterday or the day before, he had to give a reassuring speech telling them he wasn't going to mobilize anymore russian men to fight in ukraine, telling them, don't worry, we're going to win this any way. so think that vladimir putin, this was always the dole he was going to offer us. he was never going to probably allow us to get paul bhooe lance

back. the timing of it now, this was the best timing for vladimir putin to wave the russian flag in front of the russian people ask say, you know, we standby our people. >> so let's talk about the man exchanged for brittney griner. not a household name until really probably all of this happened. but he's profbl extremely well known to the national security officials you have talked to. are mind folk who is he is and what's next for him? >> what's next for him is a comfortable life in russia. and that's why national security officials really lament this, even as they understand it. viktor bout is a former soviet military officer who was kind of fluent in six languages and started a transport company that quickly became an arms

trafficking empire. he was selling arms into some of the world's most notorious conflicts, some of the worst dictators causing a lot of human miery. he came on the radar of u.s. and british intelligence in the late '90s. in 2005 there was a movie made loosely based on husband life called "lord of war." then in 2008 the u.s. government finally caught up with him with an elaborate sting args. he talked about trying to kill americans. and they had it all on tape. they arrested him in 20008. he was sentenced to 25 years in prison. now if you thus about it, not a total loss. but nobody in the national security community or at the justice department is happy that viktor bout is free today. >> i understand that. this is a very bad guy. but there are a lot of americans, obviously, who just

look at this is and say, this is a huge win -- this isn't the first time this has happened to national security officials. i wonder what specifically they are telling you. >> you're absolutely right. they understand. they live in the real world and understand this is a priority of the american people to get these essentially hostages seizesed by states they don't like it's such a lopsided swap. brittney griner was essentially seized as a hostage ask they have to give up this valuable person they did a lot of evil acts. but they understand that that's the world we live in. that the american public wants these people freed and this is the kind of deal that has to be made. they just wish perhaps that we had gotten more for it. >> thank you both soft. i want you to know that just moments ago on the floor of the house, nancy pelosi addressed brittney griner coming home.

>> we're overjoyed that brittney griner is on her way home at the president's work to secure her rehose. earlier today, we passed the marriage protection act and we are so happy that she will be joining her wife when she comes home. again, the congress remains firm lu committed to supporting the administration as it continues to work to secure the release of paul whelan and all those who put putin has unjust lu detained. >> nancy pelosi just a short time ago. i want to bring in ned price, good to see you. if you can give us an update, can you tell us where brittney griner is right now and how long it might be before she's in the arms of her loved ones? >> what i can say is brittney griner issen opt her way home to the united states. as you know, the transfer took place earlier today in the uae.

there was a senior state department official flying home with her, akpaebing her home our special enjoy who has been this really constant contact with brittney griner's network and legal representation over the course of the past nine months or so. he was truly gratified to be there on the tarmac to greet brittney. he relayed back to us that she was all smiles when he saw her for the fist time this morning and vice versa. and i know that they are locking forward to being in each other's warl embrace. >> what will ha when she does land? >> i assume she's going to have a health check. what's the process now before she's able to actually go home hope? >> this is really a discussion ta the department state and others are going to have

directly with brittney griner. we're going to determine what she thinks is in her best interest. she has been through ab ordeal for the better part of a year. she's been wrongfully detained. she spent time in a penal coony with just unimaginably terrible conditions. she may seek the assistance that the united states is going to provide and we're going to make all of that available to her. how long she takes advantage, that's a question for brittney griner, but it's going to be an on going situation. >> if my research is right, it was november 18th. one of your spokes people said they had a substantial proposal on the table for brittney griner, but that russia had failed to seriously fwoesht. what changed over the last three weeks? >> let me just back up before that. in july we made public for the

first time what had been going on for several weeks privately. mainly that the united states had put on the table a substantial proposal to see the release of paul whelan and brittney griner. we have continued to discuss that with the russians over the course of the ensuing months. we offer them alternatives, timpbt pearl trump administrations of that and what i can say is that the deal that the russians in recent weeks put on the table was one for one. beijing being for viktor bout. this was not a question of which american to bring home it was a question of one or one. while the russians were willing ult patly to agree to the swat for brittney griner, this was not yet bye-bye being to negotiate in good faith for paul whelan. they continue to point to these sham bollic espionage charges that they have mountd against

him. nevertheless, we are going to stay at this. our work is not done yet. we wholeheartedly wish that paul whelan could have been on that plane earlier today. just as we wish that brittney griner and paul whelan could have within on the plane with tre report reed when we brought him home in april from rush y so we are going to stay a at this. we're going to stay at this until paul is on a plane back to his family, become to david and reunited with his follow set of loved ones. >> does it make it more loukly this happens or two completely unrelated based on where the fwoerkss have been so far? this was really a brt question for the russians the fact of this is, is it the other side gets a vote. that's why these things are so complex and difficult. this cases like these, they get

a veto. we saw the russians use their veto but we have channels into the russian government. the fact we have been able to bring home trevor reed and the fact we have be able to secure the release demonstrates the viability and the utility of these channels. we are going to continue to engage the russians through every possible mechanism that we have to stress to them the priority that we place on the safe return of paul whelan. we're not going to relent in this work. >> you may have heard en dilanian talking about one concern that's not foreign to you. they are always concerned when someone you united states has worked hard to hark. there's another concern. i want to play part of what senator coons said about the potential downside of these prisoner exchanges.

>> the more we engage the more they are at risk. folks who we would rather not have to release. >> how much concern is there that these kinds of exchanges simply incentivize russia and grab more americans off the street in an attempt to secure more of their folks coming back? >> it's a concern that is not lost on us. that is part of the reason why these decisions are exceedingly difficult and true lu only the president of of the united states can make a decision like this. and decisions luk this are quite rare. the fact that we are talking about brittney griner, who was released several months after trevor reid speaks to the extraordinary circumstances that we're seeing unfold. but look, we have two primary imperatives.

the first is to get our wrongful detainees home. americans held hostage or otherwise wrongfully detained anywhere around the world, including in russia to get them home as quickly as we can. our second imperative is the concern you point to. to deter these kinds of events. the wrongful detention of americans around the world, the hostage taking of americans around the world. and we're doing that in a few different ways. we have new authorities that the president signed earlier this year that allow us to mount sanctions, that allow us to mount visaen baas on those who would encourage this type of behavior, whether that's on the part of the state or nonstate actor. we are being transparent with the american people offering them specific advice in and guidance regarding where they should not travel, where if they make the decision to travel, they could be subject to wrongful detention or hostage taking. that's something that americans can find on our website.

and finally, the state department is working concertedly with dozens of countries around the world, nearly 60 countries to establish what is essentially a global norm to make clear to governments, to regimes, to non-state actors around the world that there will be a steep price and there will be steep consequences to pay. if that steep price won't only emanate fl the united states, but dozens of countries are around the world are going to work with us to see to it that this hofbl practice is regular gaited to the end of history. >> a good day for the folks there at the state department and elsewhere who worked toward the release of brittney griner. ned price, thank you for take ing the time. appreciate it. >> thank you. a little later on, we are going to talk to paul whelan's congressman and co-chair of the new american hostage task force.

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trouble is piling up for donald trump. a stunning revelation that new class i fit documents have been found in his storage locker and the january 6th committee was release its report in less than two weeks. those new developments on the heels of the georgia senate loss begging the question, have trump's troubles reached critical mass? listening to some senate republicans, the answer maybe at least moving toward a yes. let's bring in ali vitali, and robert gibbs, former press secretary and an msnbc political analyst. jackie, you broke the story about the new classified documents found in trump's florida storage locker. let me read part of what you

write. the significance of classified material in the storage unit is not immediately clear, but its presence there indicates mar-a-lago was not the only place trump kept classified material. it also provides further evidence that trump and his team did not fully comply with a grapd jury subpoena that sought all documents marked classified still in possession of the post presidential office. so in the big picture story of these documents that trump is not supposed to have, where does this fit in? >> the big picture story here that we shouldn't lose sight of is theback and forth between federal prosecutors and the department of justice and trump's legal teem. essentially there's been a breakdown in trust after the former president held on to these materials so long against complying with a may grand jury subpoena that ultimately led to

a search warrant being executed in august, where federal investigators obtained hundreds and thousands of new documents that belonged to the federal government. there have been concerns that have been communicated to chief justice howell, the d.c. court that the department of justice in particular who has been running point on the investigation up until the special counsel was taken over that trump's legal team is not being truthful or the former president isn't being truth nfl saying they have handed everything forward. so these are the arguments that are happening and going back and forth in order to make sure and ensure that everything has actually been handed over from all of trump's properties. so we have seen searches conducted now at trump tower, bed minister and a storage shed that as you read from our

reporting that we published yesterday with my colleagues, that two items were retrieved and handed over by the trump team. they had hired an outside team to do this search that was then given back to the fbi. it does remain clear if there's any more places to be searched and whether or not this sort of settles the issue for now in terms of whether the trump legal team has fully complied with the original grand jury. >> so just over three weeks ago, donald trump launched the 2024 presidential campaign. at least in part to hope to clear the field of potential rivals. but look at everything that's happened just since then. you have the kanye west dinner, house democrats got his tax returns, the special master review ended, he called for termination of the constitution, then he deied he said it, his candidate lost the georgia runoff the same day his company was found guilty of tax fraud.

now these additional documents were found. that's just three weeks. now with a history of scandals, that's a lot. we know he can survive controversies that would take most poll tugss down, but are you sensing any cumulative effect here? >> well, i think you're being extraordinarily kind. in reality if you take that back to election day in november, compile the losses that happened then, it gets even worse. so i don't think there's any doubt that trump is becoming more toxic. the candidates he endorsed lost. the election denial, the sort of just craziness was on the ballot and lost. it's only been compounded. i think the challenge for republicans and for the republicans interested in being the nominee is it's different to be criticized by senators in washington. let's see what happens with that

real trump base of support out in the middle of the country. do they leave trump? are they tired of losing? do they feel like this is simply too much baggage to take in in 2024. i can see why people in washington might think that. people close to the rnc or the senate committee it's unclear whether local republicans think that as well. >> we're seeing signs of that right on the political level. georgia senate loss seems to be inspiring a lot of republican soul searching. i want to play some key senate republicans, what they had to say in the last 24 hours or so. >> president trump lost again. and i know a lot of people in our party love the president, former president, but he's the kiss of death for somebody that wants to win an lx. >> i think his obsession with the 2020 election became an albatross and a real liability for people who are running. >> i think he's less relevant

all the time. again, even if you capture all of the trump voters, you may be able to win a primary, but you're not going to win a general election. >> those candidates most close clothesly associated with former president trump underperformed. that is objective, and those who had a little bit more distance tend to do a little better. >> and karl rove said, we ought to realize that trump's endorsement is not an endeucement to support that candidate, but a warning to beware. what do you do if you're one of these republicans and your looking at the landscape and we just heard it. your not you're not going to win a general election. what do you do? >> i think senator cornyn is instructive. it lays out real fears of the republican party. the beginning of that quote was, you may be able to win a primary, he could be the nominee, but the challenge is it

doesn't look like he's capable of winning a general election. i think that's the real fear if you're in the republican party and if you think and look at their nominating process, once you get past the first three or four, it's winner take ul awl. if you get eight or ten people spliting up the vote, and getting enough to win those primaries, he gets all those delegates. so there's a real challenge that's facing the republican party. again, it would be interesting to see how the grass roots feels about this not just now, but really we're a year away from voting, if not more. so i think there's a lot of time that's got to settle this question out. >> i'm guessing that you're hearing from democrats what i'm hearing, which is let the republicans keep nominating weak candidates. we'll take that any day of the week. having said that, when you look at georgia in particular, for democrats on the hill you're speaking to, are there lessons

they are taking away from that victory as they already begin to plot strategy in battleground states for 2024? >> reporter: we're already turning the page to the next cycle of elections. it's going to be fascinating to see the senate map. places like montana, where you and i covered john tester's reelection, west virginia is back on the map. and you think the lesson that most democrats are taking is, yes, the chaos on the republican side, and that's a word that democrats have used but also people like mitch mcconnell have used to describe things that worked against republicans in 2022, chaos is another word for donald trump. the way that he tends to just stir the pot on the republican side, that's something that both parties agree worked in democrats' favor. then there's also the reality of leaping into someone's establisheden brand as the incumbent. the fact that democrats didn't lose any of their incumbent senators were able to add one to their ranks with john fetterman in pennsylvania. all of that issed toer for the next election cycle as they look

ahead to people running for reelection, who have established brands in their states who are have deep roots. if i think back to 2018, when i was tracking democrats who were running for reelection in trump-friendly states, places like ohio and montana, those were the things that helped democrats get over the finish line. the fact that they were established already in their own right, given a little bit of the freedom, not just to put forward legislative victories when democrats needed to notch them, but also the ability to put distance between themselves asks their own party. it's going to be interesting in a presidential election year, but at the same time, if truch is sticking around, he's the only announced candidate for republicans in 2024, that continues to provide the foil for democrats that has worked well for them in a lot of these states. >> ali vitali, who i know is very excited about getting back on the road. thank you all very much. flu season now out in full

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the number of flu cases skyrocketing across the u.s. just take a look at these stats. the flu season came in six weeks early with hospital beds across the country now at 79% capacity. and that national surge topped with rising covid cases and concerns over rsv is looeding to a shrinking pool of treatments. >> it's very hard to even find medicine. >> target doesn't have it. cvs doesn't have it. >> there's hardly anything to choose from. >> according to data from good rx, tamiflu hasn't been in such high demand in nearly a decade. it's just one of more than 260 drugs now in short supply according to the american society health system pharmacists. i want to bring in sam brock. i know we have been talking for awhile about how this is a perfect storm for a shortage of hospital beds. now apparently it's the perfect

storm for a shortage of medication too, right? >> that's true. it's such a tough blow for families already dealing with the elevated cases of flu and rsv and now you're talking about medicinal shortages. i'm at a pharmacy here in coral gables. go to the wholesaler and try to order basic products. whether it's antibiotics, kids medication and you see the little ledger of what's available, it's zero. antibiotics used to treat infections and doctors are pribing it to help people cope with symptoms of the flu. the owner here at this pharmacy says they have four or five. they have the adult versions of tylenol, but as you move along the case, it'smenty on this side. this is where the kids versions

would be except they are gone. the owner here described the dynamic and situation she's see seeing right now. >> kids right now, there's nothing available. you're talking tylenol, motrin, ibuprofen, mucinex, benadryl, nothing, all out. whatever we've got on the shelf is what we've got. >> reporter: so many parents are probably wondering what am supposed to do. one of the bits of advice from doctors is make sure when you talk to your pediatrician, call the pharmacy ahead of time. ask about alternatives because there's certainly are sol out there. and do not give your kids adult-sized tablets and try to cut it down. they are formulated differently. that's something parents should be avoiding. >> really important information. thank you so much for that. we're continuing our breaking news coverage of brittney griner's return home.

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>> it's a really awkward position for the u.s. government to be in. they want to bring home americans and it's not just paul. there are americans being held in china. there's lots of americans who are in similar positions, and each one of them requires something unique. i'm not sure that america always has that cob concession available to bring those people home. >> representative stevens from michigan is whelan's congresswoman and co-chair of the new american hostage task force in the house. thank you for joining us. it's remarkable to me in a situation like this how gracious the family is being. i know this must be heartbreaking. they are happy for brittney griner. but they have been waiting so long. have you had a chance to talk to or be in touch with paul whelan's family and how are they doing? >> i have spoken to the family.

they are remarkable people. their resolve, such phenomenal partners for all of us here in the congress. frankly a they are an inspiration to me. we are going to day state dedicated. i'm pleased to see brittney griner returning home. i was being briefed this week on her status. saw the joyous news this morning, but also sat at psalm time, the heartbreaking reminder that paul is being used as a pawn by the russian government, but putin himself. we're not going to stand for that as americans. >> brittney griner is a famous athlete. and she brought a lot of attention to this issue. do you think realistically it's going to be harder to keep the focus on paul whelan and cut a dole for his release? i wonder how hopeful you are right now. >> i am hopeful. and i am hopeful because i am dogged about mr. whelan's

release and my bipartisan work on the task force abroad. we are staying dedicated to this. the biden administration has been incredibly transparent and dedicated to the family. the whelans have met with the president in the white house. we also know that trevor reed was released earlier this year on different circumstances. so there's many diplomatic channels that we can pursue. most importantly, rule of law, democracy, the united states, we will continue to push for paul's release. i'm not giving up one minute. >> president biden said today at the announcement that for ill legitimate reasons, russia is treating paul's release different than brittneys. . can you give us a little i object sight into why that is? does it track with what you know? >> yeah, the president's right about ta. we have known that from the beginning. paul is a different circumstance. he went through a sham trial being accused as a spy.

we also know some of the information that's coming down is going to be top secret. things we can't share. the president has made that clear. and at same time, we're going to be a in a street fight here. we have to play tough. i'm using hi channels as a lawmaker. having introduced resolutions alongside both chambers in the congress to support paul, to put an eye on him. and the american people know who paul is. he's our brother become in michigan. a former employee, a former marine, a talented individual. we want to see his talents return here and be reunited with his family. and i will continue to tell his story an as american every chance i get. and frankly, i'm not going to be pushed around by putin. neither will our president. >> congresswoman stevens, thank you. keep us updated as new things develop. we do appreciate your time. 2022 is now the second worst

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more than 18,000 gun-related deaths including seven from an independence day parade in highland park when a gunman opened fire and changed the life of our next guest's community forever. with me dr. emily lieberman a pediatrician and survivor of theall 4th highland park shooting. she and a group of physicians are in washington, d.c. this week, speaking directly to members of congress who currently do not support the assault weapons ban. it is good to have you back, doctor. who did you meet with this week? and do you sense any progress toward passing an assault weapons ban? >> thank you so much for having me back. i brought 60 gun safety advocates and safety experts and injury prevention researchers from across the country, representing over 25 states, whose senators do not currently support the assault weapons ban, to sound the alarm at our nation's capital that mass shoots are a public health crisis.

we had over 40 meetings with senators and their staff on the hill. we met republicans and democrats alike, to present scientific evidence and data, to demonstrate that mass shootings can be presented, lives can be, prevented, lives can be saved, before the end of the year, to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines. >> you heard president biden acknowledging how difficult it is for families and victims who have to relive this over and over again, every time you go in and you meet and you tell your story and you present your facts. i wonder what this time in dc meant to you personally and the other doctors who are on the end of this where they have to see people in emergency rooms, they have to see people in surgical suites. >> i've sat in these meetings as a survivor, and that was not what motivated the lawmakers to create change. i've done that twice already now. this time, i came as a

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