maybe in context as we come on the -- in context as we come on the air, a judge is hearing arguments behind closed doors with the mar-a-lago documents and team justice looking at holding team trump in context. and also happening right now

brittney griner hoping to get the okay from the medical team checking her out while the white house is looking for a way to get paul whelan out of russia, the spokesperson for the state department joins us here live in a couple of minutes for a one-on-one with ned price coming up. the senate switcheroo and some distancing themselves from kyrsten sinema as she distanced herself from them. the new and alarming partnership between two american adversaries, and how one country is propping up a wannabe nuclear power house and what it means for global security later on in the show. i'm hallie jackson in washington. good to with be you this friday. joining me is ken dilanian, "washington post" congressional investigation and enterprise reporter with us as well. ken, we'll start with you. this is closed to the press. nbc news is part of a coalition of outlets looking for access to that. that aside, talk to us today what is being said in the courtroom with several of mr. trump's attorneys in attendance

as we understand. >> the reason it is closed because it deals with grand jury material which is secret by law. and the judge overseeing the mar-a-lago grand jury, to impose a contempt citation on the office of the former president, formally declaring that it has disregarded and did not comply with that grand jury subpoena that the justice department issued back in may, demanding that the office of the former president turn over all documents in its possession marked classified. it is a little puzzling about this, what is a little puzzling about this is subsequent to the grand jury subpoena, the government developed enough evidence to go to a judge and have probable cause for a search warrant and the fbi swooped in to mar-a-lago and identified about 100 classified documents and seized them. now it appears or suspected that there are classified documents in another location but they don't appear to have the probable cause that they need to get a search warrant. so the trump team conducted some

voluntary searches of various trump locations around thanksgiving, and we're told that they found in a storage facility two documents marked classified that were among some of donald trump's possessions, and they turned them over to the fbi. and that sparked additional concerns at the justice department that they may still have the trump side, some classified documents left in trump's possession, and they are asking, somebody in the trump team, formally to certify that that is not the case, and it appears, according to other reports that no other lawyer on the trump team is willing to do that for obvious reasons. >> and josh, you're with us, and it is like a hot potato, josh, you write that there is a refusal to designate this custodian of records, to ken's point to say no, no, no, there's no more classified records. partly because some of them don't feel as you say that they can, that the people do not trust donald trump and his word

that they have turned everything over. talk about the difficulties here and the risk to hem, to them professionally. >> as you saw earlier this year, christina bob, one of the attorneys, said things were happened over and did not know all of the specifics and was given the information and then found out later there were lots of documents that were not handed over and she has been questioned by the fbi now and they came back and raided mar-a-lago. i mean it's getting to the point where they are leaving and they say i want to be good girls and boys and they will be well behaved and they weren't. the first time, they weren't. and the second time, the d.o.j. wants the proof. they want to say we will watch you and very close and you will have someone there and no one wants to sign up for that kind of scrutiny because if they do, hallie, i mean and they sign a document that is not true, and it turns out to be true, then they get in some long-term

trouble. you could have them, you know, charged, you could have them investigated and the d.o.j., they want assurances now that what happened last night is not going to happen again, that they're not going to do this again. and trump's team has been unwilling to do that. so there has been mounting frustration for the last six or seven months with the d.o.j. that has culminated in this moment where they say we want you to be held in contempt of court, and a blanket certification that we have given everything back, and former president's team has not been willing to do that. >> the former president himself is obviously not hauled in front of this judge here. what are the implications for him, though, josh, again, he's not culpable at this moment, but how does this unfold and how does this play out for him personally? >> well, personally, you know, he's been quite frustrated by this investigation, as you've seen through truth social, through his other public platforms, and some of the

efforts that they've made to looking at this, the special master process, obviously that has not worked out and winding down and not going to appeal, now that the courts have ruled that to be done. and now, you have a department of justice that is really honing in on the former president, you know, and at the beginning, i mean you have to go back and remember is that the hearing, this was not viewed as anything other than a complicated records dispute, and by not moving the subpoena forward and by the actions that were taken over the summer, this has really escalated to a place where the former president looks at what could be the most perilous probe for him. a number of his advisers have been in the grand jury in recent weeks, who have been questioned about list document storage and this entire orbit is enveloped into the investigation at this point. and as you know, as well as anyone better, there has been

plenty of time over the years where it looks like the walls are closing in and he certainly has a houdini-like ability to get out. but here, it seems like one of the other things that have gone on in this moment, this has been a problem for him, a huge problem for him. >> ken, as far as we know, from our team who is there at court, and not obviously watching this go down because it is closed to the media, but it is still unlikely on guard, as we haven't seen the attorneys emerge yet, what does it mean for the broader investigation itself if even these attorneys are held in contemtt. >> it puts a blanket statement pressure on them saying that all of the classified documents are turned over and i don't know how they would do that. and what signals is perhaps a weakness that they don't seem to be able to connect donald trump personally to these documents. why don't they try to hold him personally in contempt. and they do that only if they have evidence that he was responsible for moving these

documents and for releasing them all. and for anybody else, any other government employee thought to be holding documents and have them squirrelled away, they have the evidence that they compiled with donald trump, their move would be to indict that person, but that is not happening here, and perhaps, you know, even though legal experts say this appears on the surface to be a strong case, as with donald trump, and other matters, and the mueller case, and as the trump organization, he seems to have layers between him and some of the people that are doing the business, and often, that actions as an impediment to the law enforcement officers who are investigating. >> ken dilanian, thank you. josh dawsey, thank you, as well. other big news today, including brittney griner, the wnba basketball superstar getting a close look at her condition by u.s. medical officials now that she is back safely on american soil. she had been held in a penal colony. but the conditions are, i don't have to tell you, not awesome, right? so she is having a medical

check, an evaluation to make sure she is doing okay now she is back in the facility in texas. her freedom is also turning the conversation to the liberation of paul whelan, a former marine imprisoned in russia for nearly four years. the biden administration saying the phony espionage charges against him are what took him off the table in the griner deal. let me bring in the white house correspondent monica alba and chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. let's start with brittney griner. her reintegration in the u.s. i spoke with one of her friends, a former coach, and saying you can't snap your fingers and it is all no back to normal. there is going to be a process here, as you can see with other people who have been released from russian detention like trevor reed. >> exactly. and i spoke to terry jackson who said exactly the same thing, the head of the players association, the wnba players association, and she said, look, this is a journey. and she has to regain her strength, you know, if the doctors are going to assess for physical and mental fitness, because all returning hostages,

and let's face, it combat veterans, often go to army medical and get excellent care, and the doctors there are expert in ptsd and a lot of other things and she has nutrition and sanitation and health checkups, and vaccinations that we would normally get. none of that has been available to her. so this has to be a process. but so far, i mean she frankly, russian tv, yesterday, on the plane, coming from moscow to abu dhabi where she was handed over to the americans, where the trade took place, on the tarmac, she was great, she was smiling, and she looked really well. and so what we're showing now is viktor bout, also, leaving with his people, as he emerged after 15 years in a u.s. prison. an arms dealer who is also going back to russia.

i think as far as brittney griner is concerned, i also asked, can she play again. and they would love for her to be back in the wnba. but she has to decide for herself if basketball is still enjoyable for her, and also, steph curry, a big shout-out to her last night at the sports illustrated athlete of the year award, which he won, and saying that the athletes are still bonding together, and work on getting everyone home, paul whelan, and all of the others, and 50 americans who are being detained wrongfully. >> andrea, thanks. monica, let me turn to you with the paul whelan piece of the puzzle here, because the administration continues to signal, yes, we hope to get her home soon, we hope to get her home soon, we spoke with her sister after she got off the phone with president biden 24 hours ago on the show, you have vladimir putin now coming out today, saying conversations will continue around americans who are being held in russia, and paul whelan presumably, what is the leverage though that the u.s. has here to get another

trade done, now that viktor bout is a free man in russia? >> that's the exact question, hallie and i think one thing the biden administration says they may do ail lit differently here, as those negotiations continue is, they don't want them to play out in public. so they're not going to spell out what that would look like. and that's something i'm told that was a little bit of a lesson learned from over the summer, when the u.s. did put out their initial proposal on the table, the russians sort of dismissed it, they never came back with their own counter-offer and then we came to this form of the negotiation, with what was a clear one for one swap of brittney griner, and viktor bout. and this is one where the white house said we didn't have a choice here, between paul whelan and brittney griner, it was bring brittney griner home, or bring no one home. and that was the moral obligation the president and his fellow administration officials here who were part of the critical talk felt was the right deal to take. what could happen with paul whelan, who we should remind viewers, russians view him in a separate category. they put him, because of the

espionage charges, as essentially someone who would have to be traded for a different kind of person. so there is a russian assassin convicted of murder who is currently being held in germany, and his name was floated in the past as possibly being somehow a multi-national negotiation, but a few months ago, when that first surfaced, the u.s. dismissed that, saying look, we don't have control over what germany can do with their prisoners, and so as far as we know, those conversations are not being talked about. but could some other path forward be presented here? this is something again where the national security spokesman john kerr by says we don't want to be doing this in the press and you can be assured that he has not been forgotten, and we're going to explore every possible avenue to bring him home. >> monica alba, andrea mitchell, thanks to the both of you. we will keep this conversation going with ned price in about 6 a seconds from now. and we are also talking about senator kyrsten sinema, saying she is leevg the party to become an independent. we'll tell you how that could shake up congress.

but more importantly, her 2024 race. and an nbc news exclusive on the show, congressman ro khanna talking about the committee's new report that suggests that oil companies are talking out of both sides of of their mouth on climate. and first as we mentioned the new details from the state department on brittney griner's return and what they're doing to bring paul whelan home. their spokesperson will join us in one minute. find your potential then own it support your immune system with a potent blend of nutrients and emerge your best every day with emergen-c

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envoy for hostages first saw brittney griner yesterday, getting on a plane to start her journey back home, she was all smiles and was of course elated to be back with fellow americans, on her way back, to the united states, and just as importantly, on the way back to cherelle whom she has been reunited now at a medical center outside of san antonio. what is going to happen now is the process that has been honed over the course of many years, it has been honed with the input and guidance from those who have been held hostage or otherwise wrongfully detained over seas, and it really going to be a conversation between between brit tney and cherelle and what is right for brittney griner. and this is not a conversation to have publicly though. >> let me ask you then about what we heard from president vladimir putin today of russia who said today, the

conversations from future exchanges continue. would you agree with that assessment, ta that there are active discussions around getting paul whelan out? is that how you characterize it? >> it is not often you will hear me say this but we do agree with vladimir putin in this sense, that there will be discussions going forward regarding how we are going to get paul whelan reunited with his family back here in the united states. you heard the president say this. you heard the secretary say this. we never had an option. we have never had an option of bringing home both paul and brittney griner. we never had an option either of determining which one to bring home. it was one or none. and the offer that the russians had put on the table that we accepted was the swap that we talked about, brittney griner for viktor bout. nevertheless, we are determined, and we had a couple opportunities now to speak to paul whelan in the past couple of days, and our message to him has been the same, we are coming for you, keep the faith, we are going to bring you home, just as soon as we can. and we have now proven to the

world that even in times of extraordinary tension, and that probably understates it, we have been able to negotiate the release of wrongfully detained americans. we did that with trevor reed in april, we did that with brittney griner yesterday. and let me add one final point. in april, we wished nothing more than for, then to have brittney griner and paul whelan, to be back on the plane with trevor reed coming home. yesterday we wished nothing more than paul whelan to be on that plane with brittney griner. but i can tell you a plane will be coming to paul whelan. we're going to bring him home as soon as we can. >> the question is and i hear you on that, this pledge to bring paul whelan home, what is the mechanism for that to actually be the case? i get that you are not going to negotiate with moscow via msnbc here, and point taken on that, but however, can you tell me this, has this administration ruled out the possibility of some kind of a multi-national deal, in other words a deal that does not just involve u.s. and russia to get paul whelan home?

>> hallie, i'm not in a position to go there. what we've ruled in or what we've ruled out, but i can tell you a couple of things, we are determined to do this. there is a channel that is in existence and a panel that has proven its effectiveness now over the course of a couple of exchanges, of prisoners, we are confident that it will prove its effectiveness once again. we are also determined to be creative and look, these are tough decisions, but this president, when it comes to wrongful detainees in russia, has shown to the american people, shown to the world, that he is willing to make those tough decisions, because even though we're under no illusions about who viktor bout is, who he was when he was taken off the streets some a years ago. we're also under no illusions the most important thing, that is the responsibility that we have to american citizens around the world, and especially to those americans who are wrongfully detained or otherwise held hostage, and speaking to you from this the state

department, that is our paramount objective in the world, to look out for the safety and the security of americans, and especially those who are held against their will from their families. >> i'm not going to belabor this point but i want to talk about this point and being creative to get paul whelan home and presumably that might mean all options are on the table and the u.s. could be open to some kind of a multi-national deal, no? >> i'm not going to weigh in on that question, no. we put forward in july a substantial proposal. of course we were able to get brittney griner back yesterday. up until now, and i emphasize until now, the russians have not been willing to negotiate in good faith when it comes to paul whelan. but we are going to stay at it. we are going to be determined. we are going to be creative. and we're going to bring paul whelan home. >> you say the administration is under no -- who viktor bout is, the so-called merchant of death and i get the point he was older than he was when he was actively doing the bad things that he was

doing, and that many of those relationships have fallen by the wayside. however, he is still in the relevant scope of things relatively young, in his mid 50s and those relationships could be coming out of dormancy, and what can you do, what can you say to americans to reassure them, if you can, that viktor bout will not be a threat to national security? can you say that? >> well, i can say a couple of things. i can say that we looked at the option that was before us through all the angles. through the commitment we have to american citizen, to brittney griner in this case, and to the commitment and to the responsibility we have to our own national security. of course, we have studied the potential implications of a release of someone like viktor bout, as you might imagine, that analysis and those conclusions aren't something i can speak to publicly, but the president made the decision that he did because it was his considered judgment, and the considered judgment of those around the table, that this was the right thing to do. it was the proper thing to do. we have a number of tools we can wield.

and every day, we are vigilant against threats from the russian federation, and we are vigilant against threats from individuals inside russia, or from russian individuals anywhere around the world. when this happened over the past couple of days, it doesn't in any way change our determination to ensure that we're protecting the national security interests of americans here at home and around the world. >> and before i let you go, i want to very quickly get to something different here, a story we're talking about later in the show, that nbc news was first to report that iran and russia had formed this new partnership, right, with russia offering military support, and iran sending in drones for battles in ukraine. the u.s. is putting forward additional sanctions against those involved in, this entity, but are sanctions really enough to combat the threat that this could pose to the u.s. via national security? >> to your question, we want to be very clear about this relationship between russia and iran, and it is a relationship that isn't new, but has strengthened and it has strengthened during the russian

war against ukraine. it has involved iran sending hundreds of drones to russia, which russia has in turn used against innocent ukrainian civilians. it is about russia in turn sending iran security equipment including helicopters and potentially other wares that iran itself want. so we're clear-eyed about the threat we face in each of these countries and the threat we face from the nexus between these two countries. we do have sanctions, and you're right, that we have wielded additional sanctions authority even today, we have multiple rounds of sanctions against iranian actors, russian actors, and inclusive of those russian entities today. but we have a range of tools at our disposal. we're continuing to use all of those. to do what we can, to see to it, that that nexus, that neither of these countries can pose unmitigated risks to americans, to our interests, to this country around the world. >> state department spokesperson ned price, thank you very much. we will talk more about the nbc news reporting on russia and iran in a minute live from the

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to brand new comments just in from kyrsten sinema, the arizona senator, on why she is leaving the democratic party, to become an independent. watch. >> i am not going to be a part

of what i consider to be an escalating tit for tat, the angry rhetoric, the desire to get one over on the other party, the desire to punish each other. everyone knows i don't function like that. >> and sinema's switch will not exactly be shocking, it is still a little surprising, at least as it relates to the timing, it may not mean that much for actual governing in the snoot, democrats are still expected to have a workable senate majority but here is where it matters with a bigger impact. that is 2024. sinema will be up for re-election, and it is all but certain she is going to face a primary challenge from democratic congressman ruben gallego, he has not announced but he is already calling simgz out and saying in part, i'm quoting, senator sinema is once again putting her own interests ahead of getting things done for arizona. i want to bring in ryan nobles and leigh ann caldwell. >> and it feels like for the next couple of years, where the

building where you are, sinema will be sinema, and the democrats know that she will not go with the insider party, senator manchin, and senator tester and senator brown, vulnerable democrats up for re-election. bigger impact in 2024, and ruben gallegos is confirming he is putting together sort of maybe a group to look at whether he should run and challenge her in the senate. talk about why that has such a big implication for what the senate looks like in two years, if not right now. >> yes, i think all of the above are important points, hallie, and you know, ruben gallego may not be the only democrat. >> sorry i stole it all from you. >> but the point i'm going to go off of, as to what you have to say, it depends what democrat you talk to about this move by kyrsten sinema. it is going to be very hard-pressed to find a democrat in the united states senate that is going to outright be critical

of this move, because to the point you made, they still need her vote. and she is still going to be a mib of the united states senate for at least the next two years and that's reflective in what the senate majority leader chuck schumer had to say about her move today. he said that kyrsten sinema is an independent, and that's how she has always been. i believe she's a good and effective senator and i'm looking forward to a product tively session in the new democratic majority senate. we will maintain our new majority on committees, exercise our subpoena power, an be able to clear nominees and discharge votes. and he was saying this thinking he would still have her vote for all of those important things, but democrats outside the senate, who have been very, you know, somewhat concerned about the fact, about the 10% of time, which is really all it is, that she bucks the democratic party, on some key issues that they really care about, and even in her own party, back in arizona, kind of came out pretty critical of this decision, and they said quote, senator sinema's party registration means nothing if she continues to not listen to

her constituents. and so that kind of shows the juxtaposition that you find, the difference between what happens inside of this building versus the political optics that happen outside of it, and the arizona democratic party appears to already be moving on, and so is kyrsten sinema, in this, one of the things she said today, is a reflection of what is happening in that state, there are more independent registered voters in arizona right now, than there are democrats. and that's why it seems pretty clear that this is positioning herself for a potential 2024 run. >> let me have you drill down into that point. as ryan notes, that status of democrats versus independents, sinema is pointing that out herself. however she is still facing lower approval ratings and censured by arizona democrats in january after she voted against rolling back the senate filibusters and blocked voting rights bills and talk about her on the ground in arizona, and where her voters are in that state. talk about that. >> absolutely, hallie.

actually, after that censure, around that censure, i was in arizona when i worked for nbc -- and covering kyrsten sinema. >> yes. and it was hard, our producer and i were hard pressed to find democratic voters happy with kyrsten sinema at the time. and so i called back a bunch of those people that i met in arizona last january together, you know, pollster, democratic pollsters, members of the democratic state legislature there, to see what they think about this, and it seems like the democrats have not lost that frustration with sinema over the past year. despite her support for same-sex marriage and pushing this forward. and there's still a lot of frustration of her. she still supports most of the biden administration, but that's why people i'm talking to, all my sources are saying that this is absolutely a political move, regardless of what kyrsten sinema says. there is no path for her to win

a democratic primary in this state. especially with someone like ruben gallego gets in the race and what is expected to be extremely well-funded. the biggest question moving forward is what does the democratic party apparatus, especially at the national level, what do they do? senator schumer who effectively runs it is, he going to support kyrsten sinema, an independent candidate, should she choose to run for re-election? is he going to put any resources behind her? or is he going to support the democratic primary candidate? and these are all questions that it is too early. and it doesn't change a lot of the day to day in the senate. it could very well change the dynamics in how the public runs in 2024, which is also going to be a battleground. >> for sure. a lot of attention on arizona. ryan nobles, thank you. and leigh ann caldwell, thank you so much. and new reporting out, the first to nbc news, it has major

global consequences, the pentagon and white house team reporting today that russia is giving an unprecedented level of military and technical support to iran. according to senior biden administration officials, the support for moscow is in exchange for weapons to use in their war with ukraine. what does that look like? let's get the specifics here. for more on this, iran might be getting things like helicopters and air defense systems. while the kremlin gets iranian made drones to be used to devastating effect on the ukrainian battlefield. according to the white house officials there is a possibility of the two countries establishing a joint production line for drones in russia. we have more from courtney kube, on the by line, along with her colleagues there, in the white house team, including kara lee, and dropping the story, that people around the world are reacting to this, and for you, it happens a lot, talk to us about the implications on this, because we've seen this reverberate. what can the u.s. do about this relationship with between iran and russia.

i talked to ned price about sanctions. what other tools in the toolbox? >> and new sanctions against russia, specifically against entities that were directly involve the in the transfer of the iranian uavs that have been used with devastating consequences and impact in ukraine in recent weeks. what is different about this reporting, what we've been hearing for weeks, even months, about the relationship between russia and iran, specifically we have been hearing that iran was providing russia with these drones, and there was some belief they could begin to transfer up to hundreds of ballistic missiles to russia. and that has not been seen quite yet. there is a concern. and what we're learning today from the biden administration officials that that relationship has now bloomed into what they are calm calling a full-fledged military partnership meaning that weapons, equipment, and expertise, and training, are now flowing in both directions. not just from iranians to the russians, but also in the other direction as well. and mentioned that they were

talking about setting up some joint production lines, and they're also talking, there's some concern that the iranians have been training on these more advanced russian fighter jets in russia, in recent months, and there is some concern that the russians may actually give iran some of these advanced fighter jets which would cause real ripples within the rege physician they have that capability. with allies, u.s. allies, like israel and others. but we asked specifically what can the u.s. do here in addition to the sanctions, they're talking about creating some sort of a partnership or coalition of like-minded nations, to help deal with this new partnership. and this growing partnership. in addition to that, they're also discussing the u.s. ways that they can talk to some of those countries to prohibit them from allowing the russians or the iranians to move any of these weapons and supplies through their nations, as they sell them and trade them back and forth. >> courtney, lots to unpack there. we thank you for being on the show and talking through that.

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news, of alleged misinformation. not political misinformation but what democrats say in congress say is a deliberate push by big oil and gas companies to mislead people about what they're doing on the climate crisis. basically green washing. this report from the house oversight committee democrats saying big investments are protecting fossil fuels for years to come and something that was only paid lip service to, renewable energy, while raking in record profits and the energy industry has refused to comply with the committee subpoena. nbc news has reached out to the companies for comment and in the past, the head of chevron for example engaged to mislead the public is wrong. no republicans signed on to this report and the committee's top gop member has slammed the democrats' investigation as an attempt to deliver partisan theater for prime-time news. i sat down with house oversight committee member congressman ro

khanna before that report dropped. here's part of our conversation. >> talk to me about what you think is the most important thing that people should know about your findings? >> hallie, we can't solve the climate crisis if we don't solve the climate misinformation crisis. and these hearings, two years where we had the big oil ceos testifying for the first time in front of congress exposed that big oil has been misleading the american public. they lied for decades about climate change, that they denied that human activity caused it. and now they're misleading people, calling themselves green companies, saying they're going to hit the paris accords, but as you pointed out, they have very little actual investment going into clean technology, very little actual investment going into climate. >> people often think of the word misinformation and they think about what we've talked about so often over the last several years, which is political misinformation. misinformation and disinformation as it relates to election-related matters. this is different.

>> hallie, it is. think if the oil companies had told the truth to the american people in the 1970s. they had the best scientists in the world. they knew what was going on. they made a decision not to tell us that, and that's why we have the situation we do today. where we're almost at 1.5 degrees of global warm welcome the level of which scientists say is unacceptable, which is why we have such high gas prices, because we didn't diversify our economy. and then you would think they would wake up and say, we're going to change course. but instead, they continue to mislead, and they are actually increasing their carbon emissions, internal documents show that they believe that this is a license to continue the status quo, to entrench the fossil fuel industry, while claiming something totally different. >> these companies have pushed back on some of the claims that are reflected here in this final report. including, you know, chevron, exxon, et cetera. the companies essentially say, we are advocating for

responsible climate change investment. we are doing that. >> well, i'm sure they're talking about, because they know it's good pr. as the documents show, they're working to have lobbyists kill climate legislation. they can't have it both ways. they can't call themselves clean companies and commit to business plans to increase co2 emission. >> what was the most shocking thing to you. >> it was the culture in these oil companies. these companies have a culture of intimidation and bullying, and that's what's got to change. >> do you think this report realistically could help change that culture? >> i think it sets the foundation. we're going to be referring the report to other agencies, which will announce soon, but it's going to take more work. it's going to take mobilization, people more than a house subcommittee with more resources looking into the millions of documents. we haven't had the resources to look into all of the documents or get all of the documents, but i think it's this first step in telling the story of what these companies have been doing. >> it sounds like this is an

acknowledgement that this is about as far as the house can go, considering the shift in power next congress with this. do you feel like you're handing off the ball to senate and the white house and what do you want to see them do with it? >> i think there are a lot of documents, a lot of evidence that they could act on. we will be doing whatever we can in the next few weeks to help make that possible and we're still in conversations, so i don't want to make more news on the program, but -- >> please do! >> suffice it to say that this isn't the end and that the house is going to be working with all the evidence for a body that has more resources to continue the work. >> how do you respond to the criticism that this -- the work that has been done to create this ultimate final report is simply, partisan, or has been politicized. >> it has been, candidly,

democrats doing it, because the republicans didn't want to participate. i mean, from the day one, when the big oil hearings happen, every republican gave a tribute to the big oil executives. they didn't want to ask the tough questions. if you only have one side that acknowledges that climate change is a real issue, it is, unfortunately, partisan. but ultimately, i think what matters are facts and this report lays out the facts. and the facts are that the big oil companies have continued to mislead the american public. >> congresswoman ro khanna, thank you so much for being on with us exclusively this afternoon here on msnbc. appreciate it. for more on this story, head over to my other show on nbc news now, our streaming channel for nbc news tonight at 5:00 eastern. you can stream it almost anywhere. you can also find this show on twitter on hallie at msnbc. enjoy the rest of your friday afternoon and your weekend. nicolle wallace picks it up with deadline right after the break. h deadline right after the break

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