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answer. so let's get started. kyrsten sinema says she is leaving the democratic party. just weeks after it held onto control of the senate. will they be able to handle this december curveball? it is their new math in the upper chamber that could change the equation for 2024? plus, a federal judge decides not to hold trump's team in contempt of court. after two more documents with classified markings were found in a storage unit not far from mar-a-lago. plenty of questions are swirling about that ruling made behind closed doors. robert mcquade is here to explain why she was so surprised by this call. let's talk about all those new digital profile pictures popping up on your social media feed. sure, they look cool, but behind that art is artificial intelligence that's learning more and more every day. i'll ask a tech expert about what new development that he's warning could be this industries jurassic park moment.

and a good saturday morning to you, thanks for joining us, i'm katie fang. we're gonna start with breaking news, sadly, overnight, out of qatar. one of america's foremost soccer journalist grant wahl has died at the age of 49, well covering the world cup. according to the qatari government, he was at the argentina netherlands match and collapsed. overnight, qatar said in a statement, wahl received emergency medical treatment on site, was then taken to a hospital by ambulance. no word yet on the cause of death. a few days ago, wahl wrote on his personal website and felt sick, and medical personnel told most likely bronchitis. you may remember a couple of weeks ago, when he said he was stopped and detained by security at the world cup in qatar. for wearing a t-shirt with a rainbow logo to show solidarity with the lgbtq community. same-sex relations are illegal

in qatar. the united states state department says it is urged the nation's government to fulfill the wishes of walls family, qatar says it is in church with the u.s. embassy to make that happen. now, we move to capitol hill where the implication of arizona senators, kyrsten sinema, decision to leave the democratic party and register as an independent it's coming into focus. the news upending the democrats 51 to 49 seat majority in the senate, before it even began. but with sinema saying she will not caucus with republicans, and chuck schumer saying, sinema will get to keep all of her committee assignments, analysts say, this is really all about her 2020 for reelection. for more, we turn to nbc news correspondent, julie tsirkin on capitol hill. >> katie, kyrsten sinema's decision coming as a surprise, but not a shock to many of her colleagues on capitol hill. who said they fully expect the senator to continue working

with them, that is, democrats and republicans. democrats hoping that her decision will not affect future negotiations on the hill, with majority leader schumer already promising sinema that she will keep her key committee assignments, as a democrat. sinema, you mentioned, some critics saying her move is purely political, well, those critics, democrats mainly, vowing to challenge her in 24, when she is up for reelection. katy, it's important to understand, the dynamics of capitol hill. cinemas the third independent too, others, bernie sanders and angus king, both senators who caucus with democrats. sinema, not going as far to suggest that, but it's also important to underscore, in her time in the senate since 2018, she's never really been involved in democratic leadership meetings,, in caucus meetings, that wasn't really her style. her office telling me, she will continue to operate as she has been, that something cinema has been underscored herself. we'll just have to see if this

up and any future negotiations, because of course, democrats riding high the wave of their 50 1:49 majority and sinema, expected to stay functionally the same way. katie? >> thanks to julie tsirkin. ahead, i'll be joined by my saturday morning power political panel to break down the implications of cinemas renegade move, and what it means for democrats ability to govern. after ten months detained in russia, some of that in appeal penal colony, wnba star brittney griner has returned home to the united states. she was sent to a medical facility for evaluation after landing in texas yesterday. this comes after months of negotiations with russia, on a prisoner swap that included russian arms dealer, victor bout. griner was one of several americans wrongfully detained in russia, including paul whelan. who vladimir putin refused to release. and bases marissa parra is at brooke army medical center, where brittney griner was

evaluated. good morning, marissa. do we know anything about brittney griner's condition? >> good morning, katie. yeah, the thing with this is, because of privacy laws, that information have to come through griner's camp. but what we can say is, we haven't heard of anything health related that would be a negative. so far, everything we have heard, including john kirby who told us that according to people who are on the ground with griner yesterday, she appeared to be in good physical health. you can see that she's walking just fine, we were told that she's in good spirits, and in the videos that we've seen, including that one of her getting off the plane, which you'll probably see in a moment, you can see that she was walking with gusto. probably in eagerness to get back home. so, the thing here though, the whole point of what is happening right now as we speak, is to test for everything comprehensively. even if she's looking fine, they're going to be doing tests physically and psychologically for all the things that may not necessarily present themselves in a visible way.

katie? >> marissa, is there any indication that we might be able to expect to hear from britney griner anytime soon? >> another good question. and what i can say is i wouldn't be surprised if we don't. right now, the priority of everyone, the state department as put this out, that they're really focusing on the well-being of brittney griner and everyone around her. and that includes mentally. you have to remember, so much of what goes into the recovery process is mental. there's a whole psychological counseling service that's offered. here brooke army medical center. largely kept under wraps, for security reasons. however, we did speak with a spokesperson for trevor reed. you may remember, trevor reed went through a very similar process, earlier this year. he was released from russian detention, and just like brittney griner, was sent right here, to brooke army medical center. we spoke to the spokesperson a little bit about what he went through, and sort, of what we can expect, which was that

largely, as we mentioned, part of the recovery process is trying to react when eight to life as they knew it before. >> she's gonna need a minute, we're not gonna hear from her soon. right? she needs to go through getter sea legs. people that come back from these, they need, it takes them admitted to be able to handle stimuli like noise, large crowds, flashbulbs. those things could be very scary at first. >> you'll remember katie, we're still waiting to hear the full scope of what griner went through overseas. so, there might be a lot of unpacking in processing to do, in the coming weeks. months and years. hopefully, everything we do here will be positive steps forward. >> thanks to you, marissa, paredes this morning. live from texas. coming up on the show, griner's longtime coach, sandy -- will join us with her reaction

to the superstars homecoming. plus, why she says this incident should serve as a lesson to other wnba players. this year's flu season is the worst in nearly a decade. and it's getting even worse, according to the latest data, from the cdc. but while the spread is on the rise, antibiotics and antivirals are also now in high demand. and as people deal with medication shortages, hospitals are also overwhelmed, working at full capacity. nbc's gabe gutierrez is in connecticut where gayle new haven hospital says, they are full. with children now with adults that are stick with the flu. >> after being slammed with rsv patients for months, icus are now battling the next phase of the triple damac. it's becoming flu. >> this doctor is the chief clinical officer here at yale new haven hospital. >> how field is this icu on any given day? >> went to percent. >> under present? >> you're at capacity? >> where capacity. >> the cdc estimated that so

far this flu season in the u.s., there have been at least 13 million illnesses. 120,000 hospitalizations and 7300 deaths. the flu test positivity rate is about 25%. last year this time, it was less than 3%. >> what would you tell someone who looks at what's happening and says, look, we have respiratory illnesses every winter. >> i'd say this year's different. this year is different because the volume of cases we're seeing is greater. >> across the country, public health officials are intensifying. their preparations for winter surge. the flu, covid and rsv. today, new york city issued a health advisory, strongly recommending but not mandating indoor masks this winter. l.a. is asking for the same, as covid hospitalizations in california have soared 150%. over the past month. >> you have a good nap? >> in reno, nevada, this woman is grateful for two-month-old daughter emily would seriously ill with rsv is back home from the icu. >> that was when the thought of

she might die across by ahead, it's really scary. especially for the little. ones >> back in connecticut, this woman has been registered nurse for 20 years. and never seen this many respiratory illnesses colliding at once. >> it's hard for the staff, it's hard for patients, it's hard for families. it's just a tricky situation we haven't seen before. >> the cdc says the flu hospitalization rate in the u.s. remains at its highest level in more than a decade. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez, thank you. coming up, barbara mcquade says, the trump organization's tax fraud conviction is proof that dam of invincibility is breaking. what does that mean? i'll ask her, next. and later, -- >> scientists have done things which nobody's ever done before. >> yeah you're scientists were so preoccupied with other they couldn't stop think if they should. >> arguably one of the most memorable lines from jurassic park's 1993 film, why jeff

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to the hearing, but was denied. a spokesperson says he and his attorneys will, quote, continue to be transparent and cooperative. there's a lot to digest here, so i'm happy to welcome back to our show my friend barbara mcquade, a former u.s. attorney who is currently a professor at the university of michigan school law. she's also an msnbc legal analyst barb, good morning. we are grateful for you to take the time to join us. last, night you were burning the candle at both ends. on the 11th hour, you said that you were surprised by the judge 's ruling not to hold trump's team in contempt of court. i actually agree with you. explain why you were surprised by that ruling. >> well, of course, katie. there is no visibility at everything that is transpired. this is a grand jury matter. these hearings are held under seal. this judge has a reputation of holding parties feet to the fire and not tolerating game playing. it seems like that's what's going on here. in light of the history here,

the, justice department has been trying to get these documents back for almost two years since donald trump left office. you know, they tried by asking nicely. their demands became more frequent and more persistent. it seems like they used -- they still find two more. it isn't that they need these documents for evidence. yes, that is helpful, for what they need is to protect the national security of the u.s.. these documents, if released, by definition would cause exceptionally grave harm to the national security of the united states. if they are still out there in a storage locker or someone's basement, that exposes the united states to grave harm so by now, a judge would understand that you can't play around, you can't give these people additional time, you can't tolerate their excuses. you need to hold their feet to the fire and get someone to a test that there are no more and no one is willing to do that. how long does the justice department have to wait and

work it out before a judge will intervene? >> yeah, barr, to your point, the fact that these are critical documents to national security, the fact that no one can actually say, other than donald trump, and even though it's a big question mark, whether or not all the documents have been returned, doesn't it military it -- can the judge in this case force the trump team to have someone execute a custodian record to document a declaration saying that the searches have mendon and all documents have been returned. we know that christine up bob hedged on that. it had a big caveat that it was based on what was told her. why not make donald trump himself sign a piece of paper saying they have been returned? >> i don't know that you can ever say they've all been returned. there is the possibility that some scrap of paper went undetected.

you can ask what is frequently attested to in one of these record custodian documents wears to say that after a diligent search the best of my knowledge, they have all been returned. i think that's all they are asking for here. they will not even sign that. what does that say? yes, i think the judge could force someone to do that, but i think that the failure to do that could be a bit of evidence that prosecutors could uses probable cause to obtain a search warrant. i think that contempt order is a really important next step because the refusal to do it could be a piece of evidence which could go into a search warrant affidavit to give the government the authority to go in and actually just search these place themselves. >> we have been exploring this concept. can we get probable cause to go to other trump properties, other trump locations, especially when you start finding them in random locations like storage units. i want to pivot. i found a recent op-ed to be

very interesting. let's talk about the. trump organization -- was found guilty by all 17 counts. he was disappointed, but he always says that, blah, blah, blah. allen brags as it is investigation it's still ongoing. he sees the trump organization case says, quote, one chapter in the book for what his team is working on. what does this conviction of the trump organization, the company itself, say to you? >> i think it says that donald trump is not impervious to prosecution. it won't make a difference. i think that this shows that that is not true. this accountability -- not him individually as a defendant. there was evidence that donald trump himself was involved in writing checks and approving the memos that were involved in this tax scheme.

donald trump sanctioned tax fraud. that is what the evidence showed. it was interesting to hear alvin bragg say that. it sounds like he is feeling emboldened to take the next step and see whether or not they can improve other kinds of business fraud, including charges against donald trump himself. >> i would love to see alvin bragg take a little bit more proactive action, i think, involving donald trump individually. because i have you here and because i completely respect your opinion, i have asked glenn kirschner and paul butler -- i'm going to ask you. which case will donald trump be indicted on first? fulton county dea down in georgia -- that is your first option. the second option is the january 6th insurrection. the last option is the mar-a-lago documents case. >> yes, the insurrection is going to take much longer. i'm down to options a and c. it seems like the justice

department should be closed, but in light of these ongoing battles about more missing documents, it seems like the quest for missing documents -- over criminal charges. because we have the new special counsel there in jackson with, i'm going to go with fulton county. we have seen that all of the relevant people have been put in the grand jury. there is the nature of that case which is a little bit smaller to get your arms around. it is solely-limited to even occurring in georgia. i'm going to put my money on fulton county. >> barbara mcquade, we're going to come back to you watch those indictments come out and see what happens. i think you as always for joining us this morning. thank you so much. >> thanks, katie. >> coming up next, the cinema surprise. kyrsten sinema leaves the democratic party to become an independent. what does that really mean for the democrats's narrow majority and the outlook in 2024?

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announced she is leaving the party and registering as an independent. since sinema says she does not plan to caucus with publicans, democrats will retain something close to a two seat majority. however, the news underscores how tenuous the democrat senate majority is. the outsized influence every member of the caucus will have, including joe manchin of west virginia. perhaps the biggest implication of sinema's exodus were later 2024. she has yet to say whether she will run for reelection. ruben via go has not been coy about his frustrations with sinema on the possibility he might challenge or. that's critical. if there is a three-way race in arizona, what almost certainly would be good news for republicans. more on all of, this i'm joined by my saturday morning power political panel. former chief communication -- brandon book, and the host of

woke af daily podcast and co-host of democracy-ish podcast danielle moodie. good morning to both of you. brandon, i would love to start with you. i want to know what impacts, if any, do you think kyrsten sinema's departure, by becoming an independent, will have on the ability to pass legislation in the senate? >> one good thing they have going for them is that expectations are not lower. there are going to be a lot of democratic only initiatives. i don't think it is right that it is not going to change too much. kirsten sinema was difficult to wrangle before. she will be a little bit more difficult to wrangle now. it is not as if they are going to be passing the climate change legislation or medicare for all or anything where you need to democrats to be on board. let's remember that she did vote for just about every one of joe biden's major achievements. she made the prospects more detailed, but they eventually got their. i don't think the function of

the senate is really going to change a whole lot this is just -- this is about how she got herself reelected. she has walked yourself into a situation where she is a deeply unpopular with democrats in her state. it's hard to look at it in another way. >> she liked to throw the land mines and other grenades along the way when people were trying to pass legislation that helped americans. there is no love lost between progressives and kyrsten sinema. last year, richie torres ruled against sinema after she refused to gut the filibuster. torres told cnn, quote, there is a sense in which we no longer live in a democracy. we live under the tyranny of kyrsten sinema. the perception is brought on by a lack of communication and clarity for what she stands. danielle, democrats like to say they are a big tent party, but are progressives glad that sinema he's out of the party? >> i'm going to speak for myself. i'm glad that sinema is gone. she hasn't done anything

worthwhile for the democratic party, to be honest. there is nothing that is going to change. kyrsten sinema has been a thorn in the side of the democratic party for quite some time. she loves headlines. she loves the spotlight. she loves cozying up to mitch mcconnell and other republicans. at the end of the day, you know, what i want people to think about is the fact that as we are at a time when we are fighting for democracy, when our democracy is hanging on by a threat, where we have a very aggressive supreme court, where we have a very politicized and aggressive and violent republican party, that kyrsten sinema has looked at the democrats who are fighting for democracy and said, you know what? i'm really not about that anymore. i'm going to stand as an independent. there's too much political fighting. there is political fighting on -- it is holding america hostage. four kyrsten to sinema turn around and say, you know what? i'm an independent, i'm an independent thinker.

what you have said is that you don't stand for democracy. you don't stand for the furthering of voting rights. you don't stand for abortion and the access that people with peterson's need to bodily autonomy. you don't stand for those things. that is what kirsten has said. that is what she has done for the past several years. she has been a thorn in the side of the democratic party and america at that. >> you know, brandon, if it really is all about a 2024 political run, even though she hasn't announced, if she is -- as we mentioned the intro, registered democrats trail not only republicans but independents in arizona. for democrats to win, they likely have to win all democrats, a vast majority of independents, and cross over republican party. is the primary challenge a good news for republicans? >> i think she is keenly aware

of all of these things. it's somewhat of a shrewd move to protect yourself what she is basically saying if she is daring them not to go in. he was going to face a primary from the left and i am sure has polling that shows she was going to lose. what she is saying is that she is taking hold of this race. if you put a democrat in, you're just electing republicans. whether that holds, i don't know. i imagine that va go still going to get in. she is looking at the numbers like we are. this is probably the only path that she has. it's probably the only path to block someone out. look, democrats math in 2024 is really difficult. arizona is going to be an important state for them to hold. they have to defend seats in montana and west virginia. you could very easily swing back to republican control of the senate soon. every race is important, including this one. >> then you, know i have less than a minute left, but i have to ask you, it's just been three weeks since donald trump launched his reelection campaign. things don't look good. is donald trump his own worst

political enemy? he just hosted an event at mar-a-lago for a qanon supporter. he really just keep stepping in, it doesn't? >> i think that it's purposeful. donald trump is once again using the presidency as cover for all of the crimes he has committed. in his hopes that he doesn't get indicted soon, i hope that he does, he is his own worst enemy. i think that every dinner guest that he has is another nail in the coffin. >> well, our thanks to this morning's power political panel. brandon buck, thank you for being here. daniel moody, i appreciate you joining us and for sharing your analysis and insight. coming up after the break, lots of wnba players play overseas in russia because that is where the money is, but britney griner's longtime coach says that has to stop. sandy browndell used to coach the same team in russia that griner played for and she will

join me next.

she is on the ground. >> stop it. >> she is on the ground. >> great day. this is such a good day. oh my god. >> that was the moment president biden told cherelle

griner when her wife would be home. for the first time in nearly 300 days, brittney griner is waking up on united states oil. as we have a reporter, the united states state department says she landed in texas early friday morning after months of negotiations which ended in a high profile person or swab for the russian arms dealer victor bout. during those months, vladimir putin used griner as a pawn in his war, but back home, she symbolized something entirely different. president biden said her resilience represents what is best about america. as a black woman and member of the lgbtq community, griner's loved ones feared for her every day that she endured her sentence with the relief that comes with this big homecoming also. come questions about whether american athletes should play in russia ever again. what incentives might there be to keep them here? i have the perfect person with whom to have this conversation i'm honored to be joined this morning by britney griner's former coach out of the current head of the new york liberty,

coach sandy browndell. oh thank you for joining us this morning. you have been a fierce and very vocal advocate for griner's release and returned ever since she was detained. i have to start off by asking if you had a chance to speak to hurry up? >> i have not. i don't really expect to anytime soon. i think most importantly now is for bg halftime and space to heal and spend some time with her wife and family and loved ones. i do look forward to the day that i can just see her and really get to give her a big hug. >> you know, president biden said that bg represents the best about america. what did you think brittney herself would say about not only that type of accolade but the efforts that went into the negotiations to be able to bring her home? >> yeah, firstly, i mean, this is great news. it was very emotional news.

without the support, president biden and his administration -- this is just amazing. there are other people still over there. there are still a lot more people to bring home. this is our first up. it has been a nightmare ordeal for bg, but for everyone here, it is all very sad. we are happy that she is home and hopefully she is doing okay. >> sandy, looks push this conversation forward a little bit more. we have the safe return of brittney griner back to the unit soil. yes, there are several others that we need to bring home, but when she was first detained back in february, it sparked questions about the pay inequities between the nba and wnba players. let's talk with the viewers about that and what can be done to keep american athlete, especially female athletes, from having to go to compete in places like russia in order to play professionally? >> look, i think the first thing that you need to know is that we are still a young lead

compared to the nba. i don't think we should be comparing it to them. there are 75 years being played. we are just on our 27th year. we are really young. we have made great progress with the pay. it is never going to be like the nba, number one. you know, this is why players have to go overseas and make money. i was a professional player. i played overseas. i love playing basketball. this is my fashion. for all of these players, that's what they do. you know, the wnba, it is a short window that we can play. the opportunity is to go overseas and talk our salaries that is what has been done. russia is one of those countries where you can earn the most money. i coached over there as well with brittney and that team. we had a great experience. it was fantastic. we were treated really well in those situations. you know, obviously, with russia, it's more of a political thing. it's not a basketball thing.

it is unfortunate there, but you know, it is the wnba continuing to grow. the pay gets better. it is never going to be the same as the nba. >> coach, you had the chance to be able to work with professionally and personally get to real -- do you think she's going to get back to playing anytime soon? we know that she has a road to recovery, both physical and emotional, but she is an elite top tier athletes. do you think we could see her playing basketball anytime soon? >> look, that's a really great question. that's a really unknown. no one knows. only bg will know. it's up to b.j. what she does. yes, it would be great to see her back on the court. she's one of the greatest players of all-time. if she never plays a game again, i think that is totally allowed as well. she has been through so much. only time will tell would be two plans to do as she moves forward. it will just be a great -- it's great to have her back here. she is very much a part of our

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since walking phoenix fell in love with his artificially intelligent virtual assistant in the movie, her. now, we may be a step closer to that in real life. chat gp tea is a software that has come viral this week. it is a chat bot that uses natural language processing to generate responses to user inputs. that sentence i just read is what's chatgpt spit out. one user asked to summarize in one sentence using simple terms. it may not be an actual voice in your ear, like in that movie, but you can have full on conversations with a, and it's forcing us to come to grips with what a, artificial intelligence, clutter into and having to change humanity forever. to be clear, it doesn't actually think on its own, but it does make human intelligence by learning from online data. people are having a lot of fun seeing what it can do. the new york times calls its

social media's newest star. but as you can imagine, plenty of people are worried about it as well. could it right college essays? will it replace programmers or, dare i say, tv writers? or maybe tv hosts? my next guest has a lot of concerns surrounding on substack that this could be a ice jurassic park moment, referencing jeff goldblum's famous quote, you scientist were so preoccupied with whether they could they didn't stop to think if they should. gary marcus is the ceo of geometric intelligence and the author of rebooting a i, building artificial intelligence we can trust. gary, good morning. thank you for joining us. could you explain to our viewers why you think that chatgpt is the jurassic park moment for artificial intelligence? >> i think we're going to see an uptick in misinformation like we've never seen before. so, chatgpt can make wonderful

simulations of almost anything, but it doesn't really know what is talking about. it has no ethics. it has no values. it can easily be used for good but also for evil. people who wants to run propaganda campaigns can use it to make lots and lots of every plausible disinformation, telling you this or that health product is great for you, making up the benefits that might not actually have benefits or telling you the value of white nationalism or whatever you want it's to do. and because it has no values are no real comprehension of the real world, it can make a lot of. it's there's something called the firehouse of propaganda model, and that's what it is. it can make a fire hose of propaganda, and we need to be worried. nobody is going to be able to recognize whether it is written by a machine or whether it is written by a person. so, at that volume, it's going to completely change, i think, trust dynamics in the world. it already overwhelmed one website, the computer programs use a lot called, stack overflow. >> gary, how do you get keep,

this? it is certainly scalable to that level you talked about, that russian firehouse of propaganda and misinformation. is there a way to keep it in check that it's actually feasible? >> i don't know for sure is the honest answer. what stack overflow did is banned submissions by it. i think we have to have a conversation if somebody puts out a certain quantity of misinformation, whether that is a crime, like, liable, we have to reevaluate our laws. we probably also have to building forms of artificial intelligence that can sort of fight back. so, we made traffic you have been cyber war fair, a kind of cat and mouse game where people make new ai to detect the fake ai. current ai is better at making it then detect to get, and that's something i've been thinking about myself. how to build ai that recognizes facts and evaluate source facts. that is the thing that follows from there.

there is no perfect way to do that right now, but i'm thinking about personally, how to build some new ai. this travel going to be some cat enough stuff maybe forever. we are about to change to a world where there is less trust. i got hacked on twitter this week. i've never been hacked before, that is also some aspect of that in the world of trust, where somebody made a fake twitter accounts, validated 75,000 followers on twitter, and they tricked me. i don't think attitude with chatbot's. but we're in a world where trust is going to be a little more difficult. >> so, let's talk quickly about the form of artificial intelligence a lot of our viewers probably saw on their social media feeds this week. that ai digital arts, lensa. it is one of the top apps in the world right now. you can pay the app to have ai create artistic portraits of you by giving the after several selfies. take a look right now at some examples of those portraits. gary, there are problems here,. to both privacy concerns about

giving apps this kind of information, but also concerns by artists, who are saying that technology is profiting from learning their style and copying its. what do people need to know before they pay up and sent in selfies for this type of artificial intelligence up? >> actually, a bunch of things to be worried about. the artists aren't getting compensated in that work. it's being used in training these models, and i'm not sure what the right answer is. that certainly it's something to consider. another thing to consider is they tend to hyper sexualize people, and i think it's going to create even more body image problems for teenagers growing up and so forth. i worry about why expectations these programs are going to put on how people think their own bodies should look like. they do lots of things to make people look like barbie dolls, and so, if i don't know if you

happen different image like that, but there is enough to find. everybody is going to expect that i need to look like this. it's also going to be weird for dating apps, i presume. when nobody shows up looking like their hyper fancy picture that something like lensa has made. i'm not as worried about the misinformation, but these kinds of misinformation to, about how people represent their appearance. it is really the effect on people's body image i am most worried about with that particular software, and then more generally, there is a big issue about artists having made art for years, and they are not getting any compensation by programs like lensa and so forth. they just take everything refined on the internet, and it's complicated, because you must also take their inspiration. from existing art. it gets weird, and for people who have made their living doing portraits and certain kinds of commercial art, it is not clear what they're going to do. they'll probably invent something they, by all this work they did is just being taken for free. we have to decide as a society, is that fair? do we want to make legislation

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