>> we have a lot to get through over the next two hours, including the death of the american journalist, grant wahl, at the qatar world cup. the sports writer died friday in qatar when coverage argentina netherlands match. we'll have a rifle port from doha in the moment. we're going to serve the latest on the former president, donald

trump. yesterday, a federal judge decided not to hold trump attorneys in contempt, according to a source familiar with the matter. the justice department had been urging the judge to do so, claiming the trump team failed to comply with a subpoena, demanding the return of all documents with classified markings. in the statement, a trump spokesperson claimed that the legal team would continue to be transparent, and law enforcement was being used as a weapon against the former president. meanwhile, politico is reporting the january 6th select subcommittee is planning to be tomorrow in a rare weekend meeting. ben will discuss whether or not to discuss criminal referrals on the other if its investigative targets, including donald trump. joining me to talk about this is nbc news correspondent, julie circuit, on capitol hill. julie, good to see you. what do we know? >>, hey good to see you. the justice department started this investigation if these classified documents back in may, then in august, just to bring our viewers up to speed here, fbi raided mar-a-lago, former presidents residence

down in florida, and actually uncovered two documents with classified markings. you see that on your timeline on the screen. just this week, they uncovered two more documents or classified markings at a nearby storage facility near mar-a-lago in florida. so, that prompted the justice department, asking a federal judge here in the sea to for the former presidents team for criminal contempt. she chose not to do so. yesterday, we saw the former presidents team leaving the building. they did not have comments to our reporters who were there. now, separately in this building, the january 6th elect committee you just mentioned, we'll be meeting tomorrow. we also have confirmation of that. i spoke to several members of the committee this week who told me that they meet regularly, right? this is a comedy glassman working for more than that you're now to put together a report to uncover what happened on january 6th and most importantly, a key question they will be deciding now is whether to hold anyone in criminal contempt of congress. that by itself does not carry

much weight, but it could, if the justice department decides to look into it, and the number one name on their list, of course, the former president. that is something they have yet to decide as our team confirmed. december of 21st is that they they plan to present their findings and a full report. they are still putting it together right now. just weeks away from their expiration day on the committee. zinhle? >> thank you so much. the deeper on this, we're joined by charles coleman, junior, a civil rights attorney and msnbc legal analyst. and glenn kershner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst as well. thank you so much for being here. i want to dive in here, because i think some people might be confused. glenn, let's start with. you're the doj was asking for contempt for the trump team. it's that unusual? >> yeah, zinhle, there's good reason for confusion. the stolen documents are not business records. it might be helpful if we thought of the stolen documents, proceeds of crime, but wait we

might think of money a think robert steals. if a bank robber steals money, the department of justice, which i was part of for nearly a quarter of a century, doesn't normally issue a subpoena to the bank robber and say, please return the proceeds of crime to the grand jury, and if he, don't please name the court to name a records can study and over the stolen body. if the records custodian doesn't guarantee that he returned it's all, we're going to seek to hold you in contempt. that is typically not the way law enforcement is done. so, it doesn't surprise me that chief judge aaron powell said i am not doing any of. it this is not the way it works. now, it was a behind closed doors session with the chief judge. we don't know what precisely was said, but she refused to go down this path. think about it. if i were a judge, i wouldn't order somebody to be a records custodian over stolen documents. then, hold them in contempt if they refused to do it. but what you do it as you do a search warrant.

you arrest the perpetrator. then, you two supplemental search warrants, as we learn more about where the additional proceeds of crime are being hidden. >> i want to talk more about the job. charles, why do you think the judge decided not to hold team trump in contempt? >> it's hard to say, because these were closed-door hearings. at the same time, i agree with glenn. this is an unusual request given the nature of a case like this. i think in order to do so, what you're talking about is actually holding the attorneys for a client in contempt for what their clients may or may not have been forthcoming about. i think that is also a very important key people need to understand. part of what has happened in this case that no attorney has been willing to swear or attest to the fact that the documents that have been requested in these subpoenas have been turned over in their entirety. part of the reason for that is because i believe they know they are dealing with a client who has not been entirely forthcoming with them as well. so, to punch an attorney

legally for something their client is not necessarily giving to them, in terms of being forthcoming, would be somewhat unusual, even though they are not in a position as representing donald trump to say hey, listen, we don't think our client is telling us the absolute truth. so therefore, we are not going to put our licenses on the line by certifying something we cannot verify is absolutely what we say, what we're saying at this. >> given all of that, to we think a trump indictment is coming soon? glenn, i would love to hear from you on this. >> i think it certainly should, because donald trump has not only committed any number of crimes in the harsh line of state, but he's also admitted to it. for example, when people say well, it would be hard to prove donald trump knew what documents were boxed up at the white house and sent down to mar-a-lago, well, it would have been hard had donald trump not posted that i openly and transparently took the documents to mar-a-lago, more openly and other presidents. that's an admission. that could be introduced as a

statement of a party opponents. i think we are long past time to play these games of finding people who will certify they've returned all the stolen property and move into the indictment phase. >> lately in washington, it feels like there's been a lot of urgency. it's not lost on me that it's the weekend and yet, the january six committee is meeting tomorrow for a rare weekend meeting. charles, they will decide whether to make criminal referrals. what exactly does a referral entail? >> well, the referral basically is going to give the doj even more of a boost in terms of that need or the permission, if you, well and they don't want to use the word permission because they could do it on their own, but encouragement and momentum to move forward with an indictment. they have been up and investigation on the side of the january six committee for a very long time now. if their findings indicate there was criminal liability, that they believe there may be criminal culpability, so strong that they are making a criminal referral to the doj, that is a

really strong push. i think when you talk about the weekend, what is happening now, the january six committee is very well aware that they are an extremely up against the clock. that clock is ticking. team trump knows it. everybody knows it. they're very aware of it. we are coming down to the wire to the point where a decision needs to be made, in terms of a criminal referral. this would be a very significant step. we are talking about a former president of the united states having a criminal referral from congress sent that the department of justice against them. it is unprecedented. >> so, i want big picture here. glenn, this doj calculus changed now that trump is running for 2024? >> it doesn't. you know, there is a rule that within 60 days of an election, doj tries to take note over law enforcement action that might give the appearance of impropriety or partiality. there is no rule that says an election two years away, if somebody announces their candidacy for office, all law

enforcement efforts have to stop. i don't think this impacts of the parts of just a subtle. >> we'll be watching closely. charles coleman, junior, you'll return in the next hour. thank you, glenn kirschener. turning overseas to subtract the out of qatar. veteran american journalist, grants wahl, as died while covering the world cup. the government of qatar and the world cup organizing committee said he fell ill during the argentina and another one's quarter final game yesterday. let's bring in nbc news coren for the spawn, that megan fitzgerald, from doha with the latest. meghan, this is such sad news. what do we know? >> zinhle, absolutely. the death of grant wahl has shocked the entire u.s. soccer world. we are talking about a guy who arguably has one of the most recognizable names. he has covered eight world cups. now, he has been talking about his health over the last couple of weeks, saying working around the clock has really taken its toll on him. in fact, i want to read something he posted in his substack.

he said, my body finally broke down on me. three weeks of little sleep, high stress, and lots of work can do that to give you. what has been a cold over the last ten days turned into something more severe on the night of the usa netherlands game. he also went on to say he went to the clinic several times while here. he talked about how he was officially diagnosed with bronchitis, saying he took thursday off to rest, he canceled all his appointments and meetings, and then was back in action yesterday, friday. he was at the argentina game. he was inside the media press box. we talked to journalists that were there who say that he collapsed, and they called for help. ems rushed in. they did cpr, we are told, for several minutes. he was that transported to the hospital. and unfortunately, he did not make it. now, we are hearing from athletes across the spectrum. lebron james, for example, an athlete that grants wall covered in lebron james's early days, when he was in high school, i want you to take a listen to a little bit of what

lebron james had to say. >> i'm very fond of grant and having that cover shoot, me being a teenager at him covering that, it was a pretty cool thing. he was always pretty cool to be around. we spent a lot of time in my hometown of akron. unfortunate to lose someone has great to see both. >> yeah, this is touching a lot of people. you've got lebron james, u.s. soccer coming out with a statement, fifa, athletes within the world of soccer, megan rapinoe, expressing her condolences. this is certainly a big loss that is felt across the athletic world. we do know the u.s. state department is working with qatari officials at this point, it's still very early. there is no exact cause of death at this point. we are certainly waiting to

hear. >> waiting to hear and grieving along with the family. thank you, megan fitzgerald. our thoughts are with grant walls wife, who has been with us right here on msnbc on many occasions, as well as his family and friends. thank you. and coming up, investigators are trying to figure out who or what attacked a north carolina power grid, knocking out power to thousands. look into that later in the show. first, finally, and and to a ten north ordeal in russia. wnba star brittney griner's home, but another american is still detained in russia. his brother joins us next. don't go anywhere. t go anywhere. (vo) after fifteen years of the share the love event, subaru and our retailers have donated over two hundred and fifty million dollars to charity. in fact, subaru is the largest corporate donor to the aspca... ...and the national park foundation. and the largest automotive donor to meals on wheels... ...and make-a-wish. get a new subaru during the share the love event and

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out that her wife, wnba star brittney griner, was on her way home yesterday. griner was freed in a high-profile prisoner swap negotiated by the biden administration for viktor bout, the convicted russian arms dealer. griner arrived in san antonio to her wife and family, and according to the white house, she appeared to be in good health and spirits upon her arrival. joining me now from san antonio is nbc correspondent, marissa para. marissa, what do we know? this is a story ten months in the making. on friday, brittani was actually taken to a medical facility in texas for evaluation. so, how is he doing, especially given what she likely in the? >> right, we are outside of that medical facility. this is the brook army medical center in san antonio. we've got to remember the big picture here. even looking at the last week, what brittney griner has been through. she was taken from the russian penal colony to moscow. then, flown to the uae, and immediately flown all the way out here to san antonio. just thinking about that journey alone, it has been a

long week for her. then, looking at the even bigger picture, the last ten months that, mental toll that must take on some on, let alone the physical. we don't really know all the conditions that she went through. so, this is her getting off the plane. you could see she seems to be walking just fine. she has a bit of pep in her step, no doubt. excited to be walking on the west soil, about to reunite with her loved ones, including her wife, cherelle. but by all accounts, while she may be presenting physically well, you've got to remember the toll it might take not just mentally, but also there are things that maybe we don't know about. they are doing blood tests here. they are giving a total physical evaluation. that is routine. this is something we are getting a little bit of insight from someone else who was also stand here, that is trevor reed. a spokesman for trevor reed spoke to us about what he went through. this was the former marine who was released from russian detention earlier this year, sent to brooke medical center. take a listen to a little bit of insight his spokesperson gave us. >> she's going to need a

minute. we're not going to hear from her soon, right? she needs to go through and get her seat legs. people who come back from these, right? it takes a minute for them to be able to handle stimuli like noise, large crowds, flash bulbs, and any of those things can be very scary at first. >> and i will leave you with this. after the mental and physical -- this total evaluation is done, really, with the state department that expresses that this is a conversation they will be having with britney griner and her loved ones on how to proceed forward. ultimately, that is in griner's hands with what she says she needs. back to you. >> melissa parra, thank you so much. and that, to the release of britney griner has some questioning why another american, paul whelan, was not released from russia. whelan is a former marine held in russia, sentenced to 16 years in prison on espionage charges. whelan the 90s allegations.

joining me now is david whelan, twin brother of paul. thank you so much for joining us. i'm sure this is just an incredibly difficult time. this whole period. just to start, even when the news and headlines are not on your brother, of course, your family is still grappling with his absence. how are you doing? how is your family doing, especially in the wake of this new news with griner? >> thank you for asking. it has been a hard couple of days. you know, we were blessed by the white house giving us a bit of trust. they let us know the day before brittani was coming home that the trade was going to happen, but paul was not going through part of it. that was nice. we were able to process some of the disappointment and anger, anger towards russia, about paul not coming home, but start to appreciate the happiness of knowing brittney what's coming home and being with cherelle. it is great to think they are going to be able to spend the holidays together. we are back to work. i don't know that we had huge hopes that paul would be coming home anytime soon.

obviously, our hopes are a little bit dash that he didn't come home now. we will keep working on. it's >> in that conversation with the white house, when they informed the brittani would be coming home, did they tell you why paul was not? >> i wasn't part of the conversation, so i'm not sure if that came up. i think we understood that there were two options. it was one option, for brittney griner to come home. there was an option for nobody to come home. i think president biden made the right choice, which is an american can come home if they can come home. >> i know your brother, paul, didn't interview with cnn just yesterday. in it, he said he was greatly disappointed more hasn't been done to secure his release. the biden administration, and at times, the trump administration, made overtures for his release. so, talk about what this process has been like from your perspective, especially given some of the back and forth and the other americans we've seen come home? >> it's really been an evolution. i think the first two years, partly, the trump administration was not prepared to or not interested in working on wrongful detention cases.

partly, the tools didn't exist during those first two years of paul's detention. we are starting to see that change. the biden administration is much more engaged in unlawful detentions and the executive order that president biden signed last year, plus the -- have given the government more tools to help wrongfully detained families, but also to start to punish the nations who are doing this. we are seeing improvements. i think paul had his hopes up. we all did, that secretary blinken said at substantial proposal have been made to russia. paul had been thinking already about where he would live when he came back, so when i heard his voice, he was obviously tremendously disappointed. and it's understandable. >> completely understandable. it is important to mention that while speaking publicly friday, putin did say everything is possible when it comes to further prisoner exchanges, and that we won't say no to doing more of this work in the future. that's from putin. do you think all this attention on brittney griner's return will pressure the white house, the kremlin, to move more quickly on paul's case?

>> no, i don't think the white house needs any pressure, and i don't think the kremlin will be susceptible to any pressure. as far as i can tell, prostate department, the national security department, the white house, they are all 100% engaged on bringing paul home. i think what they have done the safe essentially run through the resources they thought they might be needed to bring the russians to accept as a concession. this is all about extortion. paul was taken as a political prisoner, and russia is trying to extort something from the u.s.. now, they need to figure out, well what is exactly that the russians want? i think it may take a little bit of time to figure out what that is, and then acquire it, and present it as an option for a trade. >> you mentioned your brother had thought about where he wanted to live when he came back? when was the last time he spoke with him, and what was he saying to you? >> i haven't spoken to him since october 2018, before he was arrested. my parents spoke to him the other day. it's odds and ends. it streams you have. i think you are starting to give himself a little bit of latitude to think, maybe this is coming to an end. maybe i can think about going

home would be like. you have lost his job. he doesn't have an apartment anymore. in america. all of those things have gone away. i think he was starting to think about why is it going to be like after? now, he has to look at well, how do i survive the next 12 years? that is a hard ship to make. >> absolutely. hopefully, one day, those dreams could be realized. thank you, david whelan, for your time. >> it's for having me. >> up next, a historic week on capitol hill for the biden administration. we'll explain, after the break. he bakre

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footing with its incoming house majority, and the democrats are reeling from a surprise from one of their own this week. take a listen. >> i promise i would be an independent voice for our state. i promise that i would always do what is right for the people of arizona. that's what i've done. registering as an independent and showing up to work with the title of independent it's a reflection of who have always been. and it's a reflection of who arizona is. >> joining me now to take it this is for i should say, oh host and create of our body politic, and juanita oliver, democratic strategist and nbc political analyst. thank you fold for being here. there is so much the dig into. for, i'll start with you. this was a strong week for joe biden. what are you watching for, though, next as we wind down this year in 2022? >> thanks, zinhle. i think it's time when people are in between a victory lap in the democratic party and also

seeing many different shifting sands. we certainly have senator sinema, which we could dive more into. the reality is, american independents, at least in terms of self-affiliation, our larger than either democrats or republicans, but there is no place for independents to go. it's a really super complicated situation, and she also has a number of potential challengers within the democratic party. i think the release of griner is a huge story for the lgbtq community and black women in particular, but for everyone who loves freedom and questions what does it mean to be an american citizen, if your citizenship doesn't protect you? i think that was a strong move for the biden administration. but there is still a lot of questions around things like the future of reproductive justice, and i will wrap it up there for now. >> juanita, i would love to hear your thoughts on this. we also just heard that sinema is expecting a challenger from representative gallego. what's your take on the stake, at the end of 22?

>> the reason she did this because she knows she is worse than underwater with arizonans, and voters across that state. she knows that this is about self preservation. i do think it is a slap in the face to every georgia voter, every democratic advocates or organizer who worked and fought tooth and nail for that 51st seat, for her now to throw it into jeopardy, all in the name of self-preservation. i also think she has done a bit to sabotage that seat in 2024 for democrats, because she has that independent seat, even though she is underwater, of course, she might get some votes. that could cost democrats that 2024. i think she had to come in and threw in the week for everybody, honestly! we had the release of bg, shout out to the biden administration for securing that, and we also had senator warnock, and she had to come in the top of attention seeking moment at the end of the week. >> i want to talk about georgia. so, farai, can you talk to us about the importance of senator

warnock's victory and what it means now after this news? >> well,. yeah he went from being sort of the icing on the cake to being the whole cake. with sinema's departure from that democratic party, he is holding doubt that democratic 50 right now in a way that he wasn't before. and i love political demographics. there are some really interesting stories emerging from georgia, but the biggest story, of, course is that white women did not vote overwhelmingly for the black man who was not accused of inciting his side checks to have abortions. so that is, to me, the biggest take away! i [laughter] >> one way to put it. and i want to talk about the gop a little later. farai, the gop has 99 problems, and trump may be one, some have said. what would it say if trump, so, far only declared 2024 gop candidate, we're in that needed? do we have an idea of how

closely party officials are watching these indictments? >> i think the reality is the republican party is just on thin ice in terms of how we disengages from former president trump. someone like brian kemp has managed in georgia to be able to be someone who was kind of the last republican who would campaign for herschel walker, but also, has not undermine his power base. i think a lot of republicans are worried that they will undermine their power base if they don't support trump, and they will undermine their power base if they do. and that is the dilemma of their own making. >> i want to bring you back here, because we've been here before, in a sense. kevin mccarthy was banners second in command, and he was the favorite to take over in 2016, not paul ryan. but he kind of and that when he admitted that benghazi hearings were designed to hurt hillary clinton. he couldn't consolidate that republican support back then. so, has ground hog's day, in a

way, come early? can he do it now? >> he is definitely struggling. we know he wants to be speaker of the house more than anything. he is willing to sell his soul in the process for it. i feel like the latest a man's coming from members of the freedom caucus, seven of whom have said hey, will support you if you give us the opportunity to vote you at the moment you crossed us or make us mad. i think that, prepared with the private other republicans who have been very vocal about how they are no on him, is leading to move into a difficult place. a difficult for fight, and repeated votes in public that shows how much republicans are in disarray, which was the word used to describe democrats this past congress. a lot of. times i think we have to come out with the alliteration for what has got to be for republicans, when they are brawling it's out like this in public january. >> i do wonder, and a question i've heard, farai, if not kevin mccarthy, then who? >> well, you know who would love to be ruling the roost is marjorie taylor greene.

>> don't say it! >> of course that would never happen. but i think the whole thing here is there won't be a van who. he will just be on the struggle bus. you will be on the struggle bus with members of his own party, and the sort of gets back, if we move back, to sinema for a second. america has an extremely large population and an extremely narrow bands of political parties. in many other countries, for example, germany, there are coalitions of different parties that end up governing together effectively. it doesn't always work well, like all political systems, but in america, we don't have a system where you can really have those kinds of allegiances. the reality is, marjorie taylor greene should not be in the same party as mccarthy, aoc should not be in the same party with, you know, sinema, the democrat, you just have a very narrow bands of party affiliation that ends up being messy. >> super engaging discussion.

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essamuah. the power is back on in central north carolina after a power grid attack left more than 45,000 people, including at risk populations, schools, homes, and businesses, in the dark for days. and in freezing temperatures. police say a suspect or suspects shot of tuk tuk energy substations in more county last weekend, calling the outage. a 75,000 dollar reward was posted for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible. meanwhile, speculation continues to grow online about a possible motive for the attack. some speculate this was one of several attempts to shut down a local drag show. joining me now to talk about this is clint watts, msnbc national security, former special eye agent, and the author of messaging with the enemy. thank you so much for talking to me and so many people, clint. i know investigators looking into possible motives, one

again being a potential anti lgbtq attack. now, we know conspiracy theories have boomed on social media. this is just as we are also seeing a rise of crimes against transgender people. but travel investigators determine if this is the true motive, and what needs to be done to ensure these communities specifically feel safe in this country? >> yeah, it's an important note that we don't know if there's correlation between these two or a causation. both of these things have been happening simultaneously. we see lots of hate speech directed towards lgbtq communities. we've seen attacks against them, in particularly, we saw that a few weeks ago in colorado. so, i think the key point is it is a definite trend in domestic terrorism we need to watch for. separately, i would note, though, that over the last ten years, we've seen attacks against power substations across the country, most notable being in 2013 in california. in that case, luckily, the

backup power grid was able to take over. in this case, what we're seeing in north carolina was a vulnerability, a strategic vulnerability in our infrastructure, one that comes up quite often in domestic extremist discussions online. i can tell you that for sure. now it comes down to what the fbi and local law enforcement conversion collapse on the actual suspect. once we get there, we will be able to know if there really is that tie between these two things. it is possible, but i think at this point, the evidence is circumstantial or, in some places, just conspiratorial. i think we will have to dig here and went for law enforcement to get the evidence to support that connection. >> and when, some clock to mention those other substation attacks. i know all fbi officials investigate the attacks in north carolina, they also look into a possible attempted attack to another energy power grid in south carolina. so, how concerned should federal and state officials be about security and domestic threats to the country's power infrastructure? pretty critical. >> yeah, i think they should be

very concerned. i would note that they are concerned. there has been fbi and dhs warnings about this kind of attack. i know in my own counterterrorism courses that i have helped run or administered, this has been a topic of conversation for several years. i would also note that there was a case involving the boogaloo. you might remember the bud loom in 2023. they will celebrate a similar or by being anti government and anti law enforcement. this was one of the targets in a case that was mentioned. so, they are definitely concerned, both on the cyber front and on the structure front. you are seeing a lot of these organizations, which are online, in these communities, extremist communities, which can communicate and kelp cordon eight, and they're picking this is one of the targets. they want to go after this because they know it's a strategic vulnerability. i just would also note that most times, we would be a little more resilient to this. we are coming out of the pandemic and supply chain struggles, so with, that it

makes a very difficult to build that power back up. every time it affects the economy, businesses, families, the place to kick extremist conspiracies we see online. >> that's in the port and, points, about covid, right? did we not adequately prepare for these kinds of risks? >> across the board, we are finding that all of our supply chain have been linked on just in time, or being built around a global supply system. a lot has just come undone. parts of the extremist message, in many cases, it's anti globalist. they are trying to assert that we should not be part of a global sort of environment. you will hear this anti globalist rhetoric, which also ties into antisemitism, which we've seen over many decades. i think the big point about this is we need to build more resilience and what is resilience has really changed in the last three years, now that covid has come on as a pandemic still remains, as we adjust to it, we still see problems in china.

we see things overseas in europe. those all have great impact on our supply chain. we want to be resilient against an attack, even in north carolina means we have to be resilient here at. e have to be resilient here at.and we discusa big picture lens. implications for security, policy, but really the attack at its core impact people. many are trying to get by during the holidays. i think a small businesses, now trying to recover. the lights being turned off. it means they were closed for days during an important time of the year, the holidays. so how might we see these threats affect the economy and the individuals in it, just briefly here. >> yeah. always in the situations where we have massive critical infrastructure failures, those who get hit the most are the smaller businesses, smaller communities that don't really have that ability to be resilient in terms of scale. you might think of a large city. they have backups. in fact, the one in 2013 at substation was able to be backed up pretty quickly. it was also in a more populated area. in these really rural areas, you are seeing outsized impact.

i think we need to think about what is resiliency, how do we get people back on their feet quickly when they're impacted this way. just like a hurricane or any sort of natural disaster. we need to be thinking about that in terms of our critical infrastructure as well. >> absolutely. we want people to not to survive but thrive. clint watts, thank you so much. and tomorrow, you can catch more north carolina governor roy cooper on the sunday show with jonathan capehart talking about the latest on the investigation into threats to the states power grid. that is tomorrow, ten a.m., writer at msnbc. and coming, up a preview of a new documentary that dives into the student loan crisis and how mounting debt is affecting millions. that is next. keep it right here. llions that is next keep it rit ghhere keep it rit ghhere

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residency i am going to basically be and $50,000 more data. >> president biden's student loan relief efforts have led to the largest drop in the nation's education to balance into decades. but with the biden administration's debt cancellation, the plan is currently tied up at the supreme court. meaning, millions of americans financial lives are still on hold. the, sunday msnbc films presents loan wolf's, a new feature documentary that follows journalists blake's f as he travels the country to uncover the effects of student loan debt. a very related will topic. so, joining me now to talk about this, is blake's up, the director of -- let's jump in. here one of the central theses every documentary is that many americans do not realize student debt generally cannot be discharged in bankruptcy and don't understand how crushing student debts can actually be. how did that even come to be the case? >> first of, thanks for having me, is in clay.

this is a really really unknown but super important thing that is a case which is that almost any deaths in america you can discharge through bankruptcy. we have seen president trump offer bankruptcy many times. it's how you and i can go to vegas and can go gambling and lose tunneling dollars, and we can just disrupt charged through bankruptcy. but student loans, federal student loans can virtually not be discharged bankruptcy. only in very very rare cases. and this happened in 1980. eight there were two lines that were kind of snuck into this very big 300-page bill. when we talk to people on the move. we talk to senator dick durbin. and in congress at the time, didn't even realize that this was in the bill that they voted. for this thing passed unanimously, 96 to, nothing people don't realize they voted for it and now here we are two decades later and its cause a lot of problems. to that end, american borrowers hold nearly 1.6 trillion dollars, chilean with the tee, in student debt. nearly double the amount of consumer credit card debt in

the u.s.. for someone to play a little bit of a conversation that you had with some senators. and that direction on the other side. >> so, senator durbin had this bill that would first deprivations unable to get to where that dot bankruptcy. and senator cornyn holly just joined inside that they would be for that, so that has a bipartisan -- . >> it is something i would look. at >> it wasn't until it was all over, you look back and said oh my god, two lines in the bill change the lives of millions of americans. >> you are the person who has been pushing for a solution to this. you have a bill that would essentially reverse this. >> yes. >> does this bill have a chance at actually getting past? >> first thing is first, committees. the bill has to go through the committee. >> so with that, do you our elected leaders appreciate the real life impact these loans are having an everyday americans lives, and are they moving with enough urgency to help them. what do you think they similar conversations you had? >> i think a lot of them are starting to really grasp what is happening here.

they are hearing from their constituents. therefore timely people in america who have student loan debts. so, chances are than any election if elected officials got to be here from their constituents. that being said, what i think this movie shows is, it is not just about debt. in some ways it is about our democracy and our government, especially in d.c., works. and we talked to a lot of politicians, powerful people, and we kind of pull back the curtain. you kind of behind the scenes haven't are they really talking with each other. how much are they pushing to get these things done. and the answer is, that in some cases they really could be doing more. >> and i know earlier this month, the supreme court actually allowed an injunction to stand walking the batted administrations loan forgiveness plan that would eliminate up to $20,000 for the nearly 26 million americans who have already applied. so with, that do you see a path forward for executive branch release, or is this really just up to congress to fix? >> that is a great question. the biden ministration like you said, is trying to do this. they're trying to counseling

that. but it was immediately challenged by conservative opponents and they kept losing in court, does opponents. but they finally did find a judge who agreed with them. so now the biden ministration is appealing this and it is going to go to the supreme court next year. and i don't have to tell, you zinhle that you don't have to necessarily side of the administration to see the problem. >> and i just another takeaway. we see that this doesn't necessarily hit everyone the same way. you spoke to people of all different backgrounds, creeds, race, ethnicity's. what is one of the biggest takeaway from this whole thing? >> the big thing for me is that, we tell people in this country especially young people, that if you want to do the right thing, if you want to get ahead in life, to work hard, go to school. that is what we tell him to do. they are trying to do the right thing. and then, they are 17 years old, 18 years old they're hit with these massive amounts of loan papers. and, they are not taught about things like compounding interest and things like that.

generally they are told that, don't worry about those loans. you will get a great job when you graduate and you'll pay them down. and there's, again these are people doing the right thing and who by definition are not rich. otherwise they wouldn't need the loans. and, so i think there can be a lot of antipathy towards people who are in this position, and actually these are some of the best people that we have. best young people who are working hard to do the right thing. >> yeah. and we hope the best for them, hopefully in some form. blake, south thank you so much. don't forget to tune into the msnbc films presentation of loan worlds airing sunday at ibm eastern, right here on msnbc. and our next hour, more on the death of american journalist grant wall who died covering the world cup in the january six committee is reportedly considering at least for her criminal referrals. one of the maybe for former president donald trump. we will discuss that and much more on msnbc reports, at the top of the hour. keep it here. th top of the hour. keep it here keep it here detect this: living with hiv, i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato.

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essamuah. we begin this hour with mounting legal pressure on former president trump. they decided not to notice attorneys in contempt of spider question the justice department. the doj had wanted the team helping contempt for failing to comply with the demand to return classified documents. the decision also comes after at least two more classified documents were found in a storage area in florida.

trump continues to claim that it is all a witch hunt. in a recent statement, spokesperson for the former president promised continued cooperation will claiming that law enforcement is being used as a weapon by the justice department. in another high stakes investigation, the january six committee is planning to meet tomorrow for politico. they will discuss whether not to make criminal referrals for trump and any of his allies. nbc news congressional correspondent julia circuit joins me from capitol hill. julie, it is good to see you. what does the latest, what more can you tell us? >> hey, zane. clay that requests from the justice department coming after the trump team said, they have turned over everything they had with the former president left office. that was back in june. that afterwards, two months later. fbi raided mar-a-lago. the former president in west palm beach florida. in palm beach, excuse me, florida. and they uncovered hundreds of documents of classified markings just this week uncovering two more in a nearby a storage unit. so the federal judges, as you

said, deciding not to refer him for contempt for, criminal content or the former trump team. but apparently parallel investigation going on on capitol hill with the house select committee investigating january 6th promises to wrap up that report by december 21st. also promising to vote in the committee whether to hold the former president we. included anyone from criminal can in criminal contempt from congress. they have decided exactly who those individual be. november is on the committee telling me another portis is weak, they're probably going to do so as we have reported. they plan to meet probably in some public setting to present this report and their findings after wrapping up over a year long investigation into what happened on january 6th. that committee, of course set to expire at the end of this congress when republicans take over the house in the next one. zinhle. >> i thank you, julie tsirkin, for that reporting. now to talk more about, this charles -- civil rights attorney, former prosecutor and host of the charles coleman podcast.

thank you so much for joining us. so, committee chairman representative benny thompson said committee members are expected to reach a decision on criminal referrals when they meet virtually tomorrow. it is a rare weekend meeting. what do you expect to see the commit to make? >> well when zinhle, the pressure is on betty thompson and the rest of the committee. we know that there are against the clock, because that's you've already said, when congress turns over, it is really expected that the january six committee will be no more. so it is now or never, in terms of the decision to make a criminal referral regarding president trump or anyone else for that matter to the department of justice. the determinant justice, to be clear, does not necessarily need a criminal referral from the general six committee in order to proceed with an indictment. a grandeur, e or prosecution of the former president. however, getting that criminal referral from the committee would be a significant push in an unprecedented matter in terms of their sort of motivation to move forward

around a prosecution. so this is a very big step. the clock is ticking and the time is now. >> yeah, the clock is ticking. and charles, we heard from julie. more classified arguments have been found in trump's storage unit located off the president misses of mar-a-lago. trump's lawyers hired an outside firm to conduct searches at that storage facility and other locations. what do you make of these moves? >> well, i think that if you look at the subpoena that was filed, and then after, that if you think about the fact that jack smith and the doj have now attempted to hold trump's legal team in contempt of court. even as the judge tonight it, what does it sends a very strong message to his entire team that nobody is playing around. and that all of the eyes need to be dotted and all the teams need to be crossed with respect to compliance with this subpoena and turning over the documents that are necessary. i.e., we have no way of knowing what went on in those closed-door procedures. but what i can say is that,

more likely than, not the judge likely instructed trump's team that they need to make superior efforts to ensure that whatever can be done to comply with the subpoena is actually being done. and i think that the part of what was motivated by, in terms of moving forward is just basically writing lighting a fire under seem to say, listen, you can't keep playing run with the something delay and lately. >> and, charles, as you mentioned, the judge already declined the justice department 's request to hold trump's legal team in contempt. so how does that impact the investigation, and where you suppress it all by the judges decision? >> i wasn't surprised by the judges decision. sometimes you push the issue because you want something that may not be an entirely favorable ruling but you want to call the courts attention to something so that, if it continues to happen orbit surfaces, you may get them in the second time. so in this case, like in a case like this, no i don't expect judge to necessarily find it for the doj. however, if there continues to be a delay or they feel like trump's team continues to sort of hide the ball, so to speak,

they will have enough grounds to move forward. and then really press for some sort of action against donald trump. or against his team of attorneys were not complying with the subpoena a second time in terms of now having brought the judges just attention to it. having the judge, and them declaring on the record basically saying, look, we are going to make all the efforts that we can to comply with the subpoena and then not doing so. it puts them. >> and, charles, there's so much back and forth here. because we also know that on thursday, trump declined to appeal a court order with us and in his lawsuit, challenging the fbi's seizure of documents from his mar-a-lago for lured it resort. this will actually allow investigators to review thousands of pages of documents. what do you expect investigators will search for? >> i think investigators are first going to of course read out any documents that can't be used. i.e., things that are subject to attorney client privilege. but then of course, they are going to be looking for any sort of rhyme or reason as to

why these with the documents that were kept. any potential violations international security threats. that review has been ongoing and so i suspect that people are going to continue to go forward with respect to the threat assessment. but then also understanding the severity of the documents that were kept in terms of the gravity around our nations secrets. the things that the president had access to. so i think that there will be an evaluation based on those grounds that the fbi is going to go through and talk to the doj about what it is they fight. >> we will see if any of these findings or convictions impact the ongoing investigations. thank you, charles coleman junior. we return now to some devastating news out of. qatar american soccer writer grant while has died while covering the gold go grand cup. the world cup organizing committee said he fell ill during the argentina know their lens corner final game yesterday. he was just 48 years old. let's bring in and as nbc news correspondent megan fitzgerald. megan, what is the latest on what we know about his death?

>> well, zinhle, what i can tell you is that grant well have been vocal or not feeling well in the days and weeks leading up to hug up. he talked about how covering the world cup around the clock really took a toll on his body. in fact, i want to review what he said on his website. he saw that, look, my body finally broke down on me. three weeks of little sleep, high stress, and lots of work into that to you. what has been a cold over the last ten days turn into something more severe. on the night of the u.s. netherlands game. look, he also talked about how he went to a clinic to couple of times. he was officially diagnosed with bronchitis. he took thursday off to rest, canceling all his meetings, all of his appointments. then of course, back in action on friday when he attended the argentina game. he was in the press box. we talked to some of our colleagues that were in the press box with him and they talked about how he collapsed. they then reached out to emergency officials who russian, did cpr on him for several

minutes before he was taken to the hospital. and tragically, he did not survive. this is a loss that is really permeating throughout the entire athletic community. we know the grants wall covered lebron james, for example, early on in his career when he was in high school. lebron james, is speaking out. i want you to listen to a bit of what he had to say. >> i was very fond of grant. and having that cover shoot, me being a teenager and covering that. it was a cool thing and he was always cool to be around. a spent a lot of time with him in my hometown of akron. it's a tragic loss. unfortunate to lose someone as great as he was. >> yeah, a lot of athletes are feeling the impact of grant walls death. u.s. soccer, fifa, other officials expressing their

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griner's home. she's currently at health facility in texas. officials giving her a throw examination after released from a russian penal colony where

conditions are said to be quite harsh. griner's newfound freedom, also highlights the continued imprisonment of poland, a former marine imprisoned in russia for nearly four years on espionage charges which he and the u.s. government have tonight. wieland is serving a 16 year sentence and did not return home this time because, according to the white house, it was griner or no one at all. back with me now is msnbc correspondent marissa to dig into that. marissa, good to see. what do we know? i know griner was taken to a medical facility in texas for evaluation. is there anything you can tell us about her condition today? >> right. well with privacy laws, obviously that is always kind of hard to get to the bottom of and less griner's family or brittney griner herself really comes out with it. but, what i can say is that no one has said that there is any health issues that they are aware of. john kirby told us that according to people who are on the plane with her, she appeared to be healthy. take a look at video of her as she was getting off that plane. you can see she had no issues walking. you can see sheila seems like

she is smiling. seems like she is in good spirits. but here is the thing, these issues may not always present themselves physically. and we are not just talking about the physical issues, but also mental health issues. and we are talking about just the trauma that one goes through with an ordeal like this. this was nearly ten months of this whole ordeal, let alone the time that she spent in this penal colony. and, let's talk about just this week alone how exhausting that was. she went from the penal colony, she was flown to moscow, then flew into the uae, then hopped on a plane from the united arab emirates all the way to san antonio where she then eventually made her way to hear, the brook army medical center where we are right now. and this is really the premier place for people to go to after a situation like this. we had mo berg dial it 2014 capture by taliban allies. as soon as he came back, he was sent here. then we have trevor reed, a former marine who was also sent into russia detainment, who was also sent here. so this is the place where they not only do a total physical evaluation, but a psychological evaluation. and the state department is

that as far as the next steps, that is really important grants. she will be communicating with them on her needs. and they said they are working together to make sure that her well-being is looked after. back to you. >> let's hope she stays well. marissa para, thank you so much. now to bring in nbc news correspondent ali ruses covering the -- from london. ali, it is good to see. uso i spoke to paul whelan's brother, david, earlier. let's listen to what he had to say what i asked him about president lottery putin saying that other prisoner swaps are indeed possible. >> i think they have done is they've essentially run through the resources that they thought they might be able to get the russians to accept as a concession. this is all about extortion. all of this is taking as a -- and russia's trying to extort something from the u.s.. now they need to figure out, well, what is that exactly that the russians want. and i think it may take a little bit of time to figure what that is and then acquired and then present it as an option for trade. >> so, ali, that really begs

the question who or what could bring paul whelan home if returning the tribute was not enough. >> that's right zinhle. you won't get a hot more high-profile asked the butcher boot for the russians. they were furious when he was arrested. they made a huge deal about him when he was incarcerated. he had become a course a lab in moscow senses incarceration. russian media have constantly talked about him. but there are other figures that could be of a lot of interest to the russians. amongst them, vadim cross to cough. he is a cardinal who worked in a russian spy agency before. he is currently incarcerated in germany. he was charged with murdering george a georgian citizen in broad daylight in berlin. americans have made inquiries about trying to quietly get him out and swab him with paul whelan. but the germans were just not willing to do that, not at this stage right now.

there are other names as well. alexandra venegas a name that has also come up. he is a man who was incarcerated in the u.s. in august after he was extradited. he is there on charges of hacking and money laundering and extortion. he could be a possible swab. but the russians of also made very clear to the state department that they want a like for a like, a spy for a spy. and enigma not that criteria. but it is kind of hypocritical of them, cause you are not going to get to more polar opposites than griner and, griner a two-time olympic gold medalist, one of the greatest nba but player players, and boot known as the merchant of death. one of the most notorious arms dealers in the world. it's not really fair to say like for like, but this is what the russians are trying to do. and the state department, and president biden have made it very clear that they are relentlessly going to pursue whelan's release and they haven't forgotten about him. >> absolutely.

time will tell if we get him back on american soil. ali rousey, thank you so much. joining me now to dig more into this is no lanes, professional georgetown university school of foreign service. thank you so much for being with us. putin signed, conversations around future exchanges continue, presumably he is talking about conversations around the detention of paul whelan and who we have been talking about all day. so do you think there is anything that is not on the table. and the options rolled out when it comes to a future spot for whelan? >> well, president biden has been very clear about doing all that this administration can possibly do to get paul whelan's out. and i absolutely do believe it. and there are a lot of people working around the clock to make this happen. and the popular narratives that are out there, the disinformation, and misinformation out there. the marine got left behind, a celebrity came home. all of those things are not true. there are a lot of hardworking people wanting to get paul

whelan home. and i do believe that they are exploring a lot of options. even going to germany to ask about who dean. >> you talk about some of the controversy, because the biden ministration's got some criticism for its many prisoner swaps of the last several months. critics think that we are releasing dangerous people to get the swaps done. we have heard ali talk about how the exchange may not exactly be equal. so do you think that those released people, like victor, boot pose a threat to the u.s.? >> the one thing to keep in mind is that picture boot had about six more years on his sentence. he was not serving a life sentence. so there again, debunking one of these talking points that make it seem like, yes this man is dangerous. yes he is an arms dealer, and illegal arms dealer. but he only had about six more years left on his sentence. so, i think people need to understand that. because part of this popular narrative that is out there is saying that we treated this

very dangerous man who is a threat to the united states for the celebrity basketball player. and that's completely unfair, and it is not the entire story. this man was due to get out, i do believe in 2029. >> a lot of nuance. here and the release of griner's joyful but also divisive here in the country, particular from republicans on the. here some very critical of vocal. first, let's take a listen. >> let's think about what we did hear. we traded a basketball player for a known terrorist criminal. >> he left a marine behind. think about it. it is not an equal exchange. >> he realized that he could use her as leverage against joe biden to get back one of the world's most dangerous men that he could then unleash against the united states and our allies around the world. we should have never released picture boot. it was a dangerous concession of lateral putin, and it will set a dangerous precedent going forward. >> so what are these reactions tell us about where we are now, and as anyone benefit from

politicizing this prisoner swap? >> it is really unfortunate. it is strategic rhetoric and the thing about it is, you cannot separate the world the role that identity is playing in this large international situation. brittney griner is a lgbtqia black woman who is also a celebrity. so, to politicize this you are also bringing in race. you are bringing in gender. you are bringing in sexual preferences and all of these things. so these are dog whistles. none of these people said when trevor reed was released. and the idea that a marine left behind is dangerous and it can really sparked a lot of pushback from people who aren't very interested in finding out the actual truth. they are just listening to these talking points and repeating them. so it is intentional disinformation, and then people hear that information and then go out and spread misinformation. and that is really the problem here. and i will talk about the fact that brittney griner is a woman

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could you help us understand what are both sides arguing? >> the republican legislatures argument is that the electric clause of the constitution says that the legislature gives we. the election cloth provides that the legislature shall regulate the time, place, and manner of federal elections for congress and the president. and they say, when the constitution says the legislature, it means the legislature. so state courts, for, example cannot step into and force state constitutional provisions. the north carolina and the group of democratic voters and nonprofits who are challenging a map enacted by the north carolina legislature for congressional elections has not that it is part of the gerrymandering. and they, say the legislature has 100 always been understood that the legislatures have

power to regulate, but that state constitutions, state supreme courts and the governor for example can step into veto election measures. >> so i want us to take a listen, given all of, that the arguments of both sides, i want to hear from the justices. this is what justice kagan has to say. for >> because legislators, we all, no have their own self-interest. they want to get reelected. and, so there are countless times when they have incentives to suppress votes, dilute votes, negate votes, to prevent voters from having true access and true opportunity to engage the political process. >> so the translation there is that justice kagan seems to have a very skeptical take on the republicans argument. that right? >> that is right. she is saying that the state constitutional provisions, the state supreme courts, the governor. they are all there for a

reason. that our system normally operates on this idea of checks and balances. that no one branch of the government has exclusive authority. but that a sweeping version of this independence day legislature theory would in fact gives the legislature authority. and she said that is not how we have always done it. >> and of course, this is not the only case we're following. there's another big case recently about a colorado wept as minor who was an evangelical christian and wants to avoid working on same sex weddings. do you have a sense about which direction justices are leaning in that case specifically? >> yeah. so that does seem like after the oral argument, it is a course with the caveat that it is always dangerous to make predictions about oral arguments. from the point that the supreme court agreed to take up her case, it seems likely that there will be five or six votes among the conservative majority in favor of lori smith, the website. designer and it did seem like that was the case after the

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counting on this loan forgiveness no briefly here? >> yeah. so this involves something called the major questions doctrine. which is the idea that if congress needs to give administrative authority we power to make vast assistant will have asked political significance, and used to say so clearly. and the argument by the states challenging the loan relief in this case is that the law that the biden administration is relying on does not do so. >> okay, so this is impacting americans everywhere. we'll be watching. amy how, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> about an msnbc reports, almiron takes the stand to answer questions in the shooting death of his aunt by texas police officer. more, right after this break. stay with us. break stay with us stay with us leon... the first of them all. three generations, who all bank differently with chase. leon's saving up for his first set of wheels... nice try. really? this leon's paying for his paint job on the spot...

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am. the prosecution rested its case this week against police officer and enough taxes. he's accused of the murder of tatiana jefferson, dean, who is white shot jefferson a black woman, through the window of her mother's house back in 2019. a china is now 11 year old nephew, zion who is with him in the shooting occurred, was forced to take the stand. >> how did she pulled a gun out of her purse? >> she looks in her purse and then, when she looked addict she got it in just had a next to her. >> the long-awaited murder

trial begins. the white former police officer who fatally shot and killed a black woman, a tatiana jefferson, inner families texas home. >> the incident started as a nonemergency call to police. the front door of jefferson's home was open, according to police. body camera video, showing the officer aaron dean, approaching the front door of the home on october 12 2019. then, walking around the side of the home. in the body cam video, dean shots at jefferson to show her hands. moments before fatally shooting 28-year-old through the rear window of the home with a single bullet. >> put your hands up, show me your. hands >> dean is not heard identifying himself as belize. police say jefferson was playing video games with her than a year old nephew. who according to police record, said his aunt pulled out a gun after hearing noises behind the house. it is unclear, based on please record, if dean new jefferson was armed. >> that shooting sparked widespread outrage.

and a speedy response from the fort worth texas police department. they promptly released body cam video. dean quite and restart with murder and on that to negligent manslaughter just two days after the shooting. he pled not guilty and one free on 200,000-dollar bond. >> how usual or unusual is it for a police department to respond to a fatal police shooting like this. >> most of the time, the police department will take their time investigating before they take disciplinary action. >> but that pace load. in contrast, george floyd, the black man killed by a white officer in 2020, was killed seven months after jefferson. and that form are officer derek chauvin went on trial and was convicted over a year and a half ago. dean style is just starting. >> it took three years for this trial to begin. what do you think factored into the delays? >> we shouldn't be that surprised at the trial took this long to happen because we are still on the tail end of covid. and while the pandemic maybe over, the courthouse backups

are not over. >> reportedly, child early start were due to the pandemic. appeals and recurring illness from teens team. according to the associated press, deans attorney died the same week as jury selection. dean's team did not immediately respond for comment. the family of atatiana jefferson says in part, they are relieved that it is going forward, but they are extremely anxious during this process. >> in a case like this, ultimately it is going to be what a reasonable officer would have done in the same position, and what information was known to that officer in that moment. >> and that trial is expected to continue on monday. the defense will begin to lay out its case. joining me now to talk about this is paul butler, msnbc legal analyst, former federal prosecutor and author of, chokehold. policing blackmon. thank you so much for being. here so, the prosecution rested its case only three days into the trial. is that unusual for it to happen so quickly, and what could be the reasons for that? >> so, the prosecution wanted to present this as a simple

case of murder. they had to our witnesses to the shooting that directly rebut the police officers cleans. after the defense presents its case, the prosecution will get another opportunity to present evidence to the jury and rebuttal. >> what do you think some of the biggest obstacles the prosecution is facing for this case, specifically? >> this is a difficult case for the prosecution because the victim had a gun and officer dean claims he pointed at that time. the gun was totally legal, but the defense will say that officer jean reasonably feared for his life. jurors often give police officers the benefit of the doubt. some jurors may think that even if the cop made a mistake, he was just trying to do his job. and the law favors the cop by instructing the jury to consider the situation from their perspective. >> and, notably, there has been controversy surrounding jefferson's nephew specifically.

zion is's name, and he is a child. he said on the stand that she did not raise her gun. as i reported, they were playing video games at the time of the incident. the defense argues that on the night of the incident, when he was eight, zion allegedly said that atatiana jefferson raise the gun from her side at one point. how does this affect the testimony? i know you said that the gun will be pretty critical here? >> an experienced police interrogator can get an eight-year-old child to say pretty much anything. so i would discount any statement taking from a child who just witnessed his aunt shot to death by the police. this officer violated every rule in the police manual about use of force and de-escalation. he would've been fired from the police department if he had a resigned first. this is a classic case of shoot first, ask last chance later. and these cases haven't much more frequently in black and red communities. >> absolutely, harrowing what

the child. saw i know he require he recounted senior cry and shaking after she was shot. what else stood out to you from the testimony we have heard so far? >> the defense will present its case this week. and it is important to remember that we have two eye witnesses who both testified that miss jefferson did not pointer gun out the window. officer jeans partner was on the scene. she says she didn't fire her gun. and she has never seen must jefferson with any weapon. and of course the nephew says that he saw her take the gun out of her prayers because it was two in the morning, they heard these prowler's in the backyard. but the nephew, says he never saw her point that gun outside the window, which is what the officers claiming. >> and we have to talk about the right to bear arms, because jefferson legally owned a gun in texas law allows gardeners to use force, and in some cases deadly force to protect their own property, which she was directly on.

her family's home. so why is this different and to this case worry any legal gun owners? >> we often see, when white people use guns in self-defense, the gun lobby steps up. but when police officers shoot black folks, and when black folks trying to use guns because they are concerned about their safety, this was the same situation when the breonna taylor, case there is not the same second amendment lobby in support of black folks using guns for self-defense. especially in a case like this. often police killings of black men get the most attention. but our system sisters are victims of the same police brutality and racial profiling. most officers serve with integrity, but bad apple cops don't like black women anymore than they like black men. and in fact, after excessive force, the most common complaint against police officers is sexual abuse. and black women are most likely to be victims of this abuse.

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back on it now and go, what on earth happened? there is a hierarchy of the family. there is leaking, and there's plenty of stories, i did everything i could to protect their family. >> doesn't make more sense to hear the story from us? >> three episodes of the highly anticipated docuseries harry and meghan dropped on netflix, yes i've already binge-watch them all. documentary offers a firsthand account of the coupled relationship and their decision to step down as senior members of the royal family. some are praising the series and, royal critics are saying the duke and duchess of sussex are capitalizing on their

titles. buckingham palace has declined to comment on the series. joining me now is -- author of the last queen and current daily beast columnist, thank you for being here, it's such a -- let start with the critique. there have been some criticism of this docuseries has not really been offering any new information so far. do you share that criticism? first of all? have you learned anything new? >> there was one disappointments of me, meghan says it is the first time we get to hear the story directly from them, which is true, but i felt that the story was dispersed through the three hours, the most important points got lost even though they tried to make them they got lost. there was a bit of a soapy love story, the love story was real, obviously but they say there was no important suffering there, there was important suffering there.

the important thing to understand is megan is the catalyst of the whole drama. you have to ask yourself, why is that? why did she draw the fire? when she arrives in landed, i'm from that moment onwards, it unleashes a steady beast, a dark undergrowth of prejudice, first of all, and british tabloids, which is very clear in the show. and then harder to nail down in the royal family itself. >> i wanted to ask you about that prejudice, so far, a large part of the documentary focuses on how race played a factor in how meghan was treated by the british media, the public, and the family. i won't point, harry actually says in his family, quote, there is a huge level of unconscious bias, notably even meghan talks about how she did not actually consider her race or discrimination much until some of the coverage began. what is your take on them digging into race and racism, and the role in megan's

treatment? >> it was very important to them, people understood, people in the family understood the role of race was playing. in fact, little notice to weeks ago, scotland yard, an officer that was in charge of the royal protection unit, he saw all of the hate stuff that was pouring out about meghan. in fact, he revealed, this is not me much, but he revealed at least two prosecutions were made against people who were responsible on social media. pouring his death against meghan. the point harriet trying to make a family, the family saying don't make any fuss about this, we all have to put up with this, we ought to put up with the tabloids all our lives, which of course is true, they pursue the members of the royal family. harry tried to make a point to them that the difference here was racial. that meghan was undergoing horrible hate talk, i'm

suffering that none of the others have ever experienced. he was trying to educate, use the word educate, when he said there was an unconscious racism in the royal family, and then he goes on to say there is a need for education. but they both felt, and it was clear for this, they felt they were not getting the sympathy and support they needed from the family. >> when we are talking about the family a route in the daily beast that king charles cannot be neutral in this conflict, you say, quote, he is at the heart of the crisis as a parent and a man who has to prove his authority as chief executive of the firm. what action could he take as king, in the situation? >> part of the documentary showed relationships between the royal family and slavery. i think what you need here is the equivalent of what happened in south africa with a reconciliation and the truth.

with the king ought to do, he represents not just the royal family, but the nation itself, what the king could do is initiate exactly that, an educational program, both within the members of the royal family to create some understanding with the history of the royal family is in relation to the race. more importantly, to talk to the country, if you remember, the 2012 olympics when the queen was parachuted, or an actor repair issue to during the olympics, they were celebrating the glorious multicultural country that routinely more. the queen is not always at ease with that. never just about that. what the king needs to do, he needs to man up, detective put it that way, stand up, say, spell it out, truthfully. what harry was asking for. what these people need and got. >> there was the king, but there is prince william and

kate, they have not made any officials about the docuseries. there was a hint from megan at the formality that exist in front of the cameras did not dissipate when she met them in person. how do you think they will respond? overall, what are you hoping to see in the next series? >> i think what we are looking for the next series as much about that, the relationship between the two brothers was not investigated too much. one is trapped in assisted and can't get out, the other one got out, that is the point. >> absolutely, that is the point of it, clive irving breaking it down, we will be watching the next part, thank you. that will do it for me, thank you for watching at home. i am stunned clay us, stay tuned alex with the port, michael cohen, former attorney for donald trump. he recalls the two meetings with kanye west. we're kanye west really thinks about yay, and plus what the trump organization conviction means for the former president's business. that is coming up at noon eastern right here on msnbc. eastern right here on msnbc. eastern right here on msnbc. so i choose neuriva plus.

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msnbc will ted quarters. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with breaking news. longtime u.s. soccer journalist grant wallen died last night. while covering the world cup in qatar. new details we will have in a few moments. also new today, wnba star

brittney griner back in the u.s. this weekend after being released from a russian prison. this in exchange for a russian arms dealer. earlier today, former cia director john brennan told msnbc what he feels it took nearly ten months to bring her home. when -- >> it's pretty clear that brittney griner's team -- as well as the national focus on her case made her, then russia's eyes, a very valuable negotiating tool. that's why they held out for exchange for someone like viktor bout. >> on capitol hill, arizona senator kyrsten sinema taking up the senate, announcing she is leaving the democratic party and switching to independent. seminal -- defending the move saying she will not defend her approach. >> my stands today is about joining the many americans, and lots of arizonans, in fact, the majority of voters, who don't believe any political party fits them perfectly. i don't think about