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shocking death at a world cup involving a prominent journalist. the same journalist who is on msnbc recently talking about his detention by authorities in qatar upset about his shirt. >> i arrived at the stadium last night for the u.s. game wearing the shirt that you just showed with the rainbow around the soccer ball, supporting lgbtq issues, and immediately was not allowed in. >> much more on how grant wahl died and what the u.n. is going to investigated that. we're also following britney griner's return to the u.s.. her first weekend home after her deal in russia, and the political bombshell over senator kyrsten sinema's exit over the democratic party. we're gonna look at the impact for the democratic senate majority. plus a political family were. >> join me in opposing this misguided and does dangerous

bill. >> so despite coming out tonight and this past five years, i guess he shoes but still as much as a home vote. >> the nephew of a republican congresswoman is taking presidents over her very public attack on the lgbtq community, we will have a more of that coming up as well. we begin with the tragic news coming out of qatar. a renowned u.s. sports journalist, grant wahl passed away unexpectedly. he collapsed in the press box during the match between argentina and the netherlands. and was taken to a local hospital where he is believed to have died. i want to bring in -- in qatar's josh lederman. megan, let me start with you on this one and talk just about what details we are learning about his death. >> well, yasmin what we know is that the days leading up to the tournament, grant wahl wasn't feeling well. when he got here in qatar he started to feel like he was getting a bit worse and he talked openly about how working around the clock covering the

world cup, he started to feel the toll on his body. in, fact i want to read for you just a brief statement he put on his website. he said, my body finally broke down on me, three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. he then talked about how he used to -- he started to deteriorate a little bit up another one's game a couple days ago really. and there, he went to the clinic. he got diagnosed with bronchitis. t took thursday off. canceling meetings and appointments to just rest and relax, trying to recover, back in action yesterday at the argentina game, in the press box, when he collapsed. and we know that journalists in the room were frantically calling for assistance for him. that they spied -- try doing cpr when the medics got there, unfortunately to no avail. and he ended up passing away. this is a real big loss for the athletic world. i, mean he reported on the

brown james, for example, when lebron was in high school. and that is something that lebron james didn't forget about. and he made statements and tweeted, about his respect and appreciation for journalists, sports journalists like grant wahl. yasmin? >> yeah this is so incredibly sad. and huge for the sports world. absolutely, you also think about his family, josh back here at home, doctor -- has appeared on this program and i have appeared alongside her many times on msnbc. we hear from the u.s. state department and they released a statement sending, his condolences, they're engaging discussions with senior qatari officials. how -- what can the government do to investigate the citizens of getting this grand staff? >> the state department is already involved with the bureau of consular nze venson's and the officials and the journalist family to repatriate his remains, to hear, in the

united states we should say from the get-go that there is no indication at this point that the u.s. government believes in foul play, involved here, yasmin. that if there were reasonable suspicion that mr. wall was the victim of a crime overseas, certainly that would bring in the potential for u.s. investigators, and i just spoke with a former senior fbi official who just explain to me that in this kind of a case fbi officials would work with the assistance of the state departments diplomatic service security service to investigate if that were, again, any kind of evidence that there were a crime here. and it's likely given the fact that there was this massive sporting event taking place in doha that there's already fbi officials who are on the ground, just sort of part of the security apparatus around the world cup, certainly there are fbi officials that are dispatched to other events like the olympics. we know.

and the u.s. government throws embassy which also has an additional consular office because of the world cup, they're going to be taking the lead on working with both local officials who may be doing their own investigation, as well as trying to make sure that the family back here in the united states is getting all of the information as quickly as possible through the u.s. government. yasmin. >> all right, josh lederman for, us we thank, you megan fitzgerald, we thank you as well. i want to continue this conversation let's bring in glenn crux soccer analyst for siriusxm and former head coach of the rutgers women's soccer team. thanks for joining us, glen appreciate. it you nil grant you worked alongside him what is your reaction to his death so tragically? >> it's so shocking because doing the group stage of the games, i was in qatar and that next to grant for all of the

games that i covered which was half a dozen. including author usa games. and conversations with him. he was fine and he's always working hard and we know the hours that he puts in. but there was no indication of any ill help so that's when i was texting my friend last night to tell me this it was trump -- 's shocking. and it's so very sad for his family. for his close friends. for his colleagues. and here is a guy who was one of 82 journalists who were honored in qatar for attending their eighth world cup. i mean he's been a part of it for a long time. >> can you tell me glenn about what grant meant to the u.s. specifically soccer world? i know he wrote we talk a lot about that early piece he wrote on lebron james, right in his high school years and lebron offered a tribute when he heard of glenn's, so, i grants

passing. saying at the tragic losses unfortunate to lose someone like him. and i wish the family the best. may he rest in paradise. billie jean king of harper, breaking the death of -- grant was an advocate for the lgbtq community and a prominent voice where women's soccer. he used his voice to elevate those who stories needed telling. prayers for his family. what did he mean from the socket community at large? >> well, one of his close colleagues called him a champion of humanity and i think if there is a legacy that is spoken so clear, and so accurately. i think if you think about grant wall in soccer he, started writing in 1996 out of princeton university, we're probably bradley was the head coach. he took a grant under his wing. that's where grant grew passionate about the pardon started writing about it regularly. then the sports illustrated. but we have to remember, the

internet, social media, television coverage, and reuters there wasn't much going on in terms of the transition of information on the spot of soccer. grant was there at the early stages. and he continue to develop his art form of writing, and he was never afraid to tackle any topic. and, yes he was an advocate of the women's game i've been involved in the women's game in the already -- since the early 80s as a coach, so i was particularly in tune with some of the things that he advocated for. most recently, equal pay, equal rights for the u.s. women's national team. >> glenn i want to ask you a little bit about what was happening at qatar. because we have learned, obviously, of grant talking about how he wasn't feeling well. and he hadn't been feeling well. for the past few days, leading up to his untimely death. no one but he said there was a lot of people sick of that area in qatar and it wasn't covid

because he tested negative for covid. was this something you saw were experienced while you were there? >> i personally did not, and actually, i got around almost exclusively on the metro, the train system that they developed and built once they were awarded the world cup in 2010. so i got to all the different sites that way. and sometimes those trains were packed, very few people wearing masks. i will say this about grant wahl he wore a mask everywhere he went. and when we were outdoors he would take it off, but if you saw him in the elevator, at the press room, he was very careful about. it and, but he also was an exclamatory about, as you show the rainbow shirt, i sat next to him that night when he finally got in, and he said at the end of, it they apologized. and let him through with the rainbow t-shirt, as he is, when we talk about advocacy, lgbtq+ rights, grant was at the forefront of that as well.

he cover the women's, again he covered the men's game, and very equal fashion. as far as sickness in qatar, i personally did not witness that, and i was with a group of about 40 coaches. and everyone was fine for the time that i was there. >> let me just ask you about the legacy that grant leaves behind, especially after hearing what sports illustrator -- sports illustrated had to say about him, no writer and e history of sports illustrated has been more passionate about the spots that he loved. and the stories that he wanted to tell. what legacy does he leave for sports writers, in the future? >> well, i think the best reuters, the ones that i enjoy, picking up the newspaper, i used to do that more often and now it's online. are those that can we have a story. even if it's just a game story. and i think that's something that grant did exceptionally well, and better than most. he could tell a story within the framework of getting a

specific idea across. and the most recent economic ember, is he told the story of -- his family ends up upbringing on his substack. which i actually subscribe to on the flight over. because i was so interested in learning more about -- and i wanted to support grant. i, said okay, i'm gonna subscribe to this thing. and i've been getting notifications throughout. he's been writing consistently. he immediately in sitting next to him in a game, it's interesting, because he's typing, up if you look back, he does immediate reaction, three things that he responds to. like, three things that happened in the game, that he wanted to illicit on -- in his writing. he would do it immediately after the game. but he's typing in the last 15. minutes has ideas, while he still watching the game. and, not everyone can do that. but it's the style. it's the style and the storytelling that i think stands out about grant. and people like to read stories, and the individuals impacted

the game, he was able to bring them to light like no other. >> glenn crocks, thank you for joining us on this. we appreciate it. we're so sorry for your loss, certainly. all right, everybody, let's talk about brittney griner. continuing to undergo physical and psychological evaluations at a texas medical center as you reunites with loved ones after more than ten months in russian detainment. wnba star arrived back in the u.s. friday, after being released as part of a prisoner swap, with russian arms dealer viktor bout. we see melissa's outside the brook medical center in san antonio, texas. good to talk to you. this is where many americans have been brought after being freed from captivity. what do we know about the recovery process? >> right, well this really is the premiere place for people who have been through these sorts of situations to come. two it is the only level one trauma center within the department of defense, so 2014,

captured by taliban allies, after he was released, he wasn't here. earlier this year, trevor reed also held in russian detention with center after he was released. so there's some overlap here. of course, the difference is that griner was a civilian and not part of the military when this happened. but there are some similarities in terms of the process that they might be going through here. first, they might go through an intense physical evaluation. and then they go through a psychological evaluation. we spoke to a spokesperson for reed, who explained a little bit about what reed went through, could be similar to what griner is going through. behind closed doors, at the center behind me. >> she's gonna need a minute. we're not gonna hear from her soon. she needs to go through, and kind of get her sea legs under. she's only just gotten to reconnect with their wife and family, and i guess one thing that i would say, and i'm particularly glad that they do this in this base controlled environment where no one can get near her, you know, people

that come back from these, it takes them a minute to be able to handle stimuli like noise large crowds, flashbulbs, and all of those things can be very scary at first. >> so, yasmin, to his, 0.1 of the biggest challenges is trying to react when it to life as they knew it before after something so traumatic. >> so challenging. marissa, thank you. let's shift gears. your top politics at the moment, if we, can 2022 midterms are in the rearview mirror. that's -- kari lake has filed a new lawsuit, to challenge this certification of arizona's election results. and even seeks a court order that would declare her the winner of the state's governor race. in reaction, katie hobbs winning campaign put a statement calling this a, quote, sham lawsuit. and it is not the only news out of arizona. that we are following

currently. senator kyrsten sinema making it official, leaving the democratic party. and registering as an independent just, days after the party's big win in the state of georgia. i want to bring in nbc's -- from capitol hill. standing by with more news. julie is good to talk to. you walk us through this if you can. and how is this announcement landing? especially of course with the democrats on the hill? >> look, democrats need to be a little bit careful on how they react to this. and they largely have, been especially democratic leaders who had majority leader schumer, praising sinema as a good and effective senator, even touting her independent record and most notably, saying she will keep her key committee post and assignments as a democrat. saying the quiet part out loud, that democrats of course will retain their majority, and essentially keeping the 51 to 49 structure. as we see it now. but, look other democrats, especially progressives in the house, i'm talking about congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, jamal bowman, all of these voices that have been largely critical -- critical of cinema, not shy of

speaking out on twitter. however, the leader in the progressive caucus, camilla jayapal, telling us in the last hour that she trusts sinema, she takes about a word. it's an interesting dynamic there as they try to keep sinema on their side of the bench. i want you to take a listen to what other cinema colleagues have said yesterday. watch. >> she's showing that she has an independent streak and how she operates. >> i don't think it's going to greatly change how the senate is working right now. >> we have every reason to expect that we will continue to work with her successfully. >> look, sinema has a 93% voting record with democrats, with the biden administration. of course, she did oppose a key piece of his agenda, including most notably, not wanting to change the senate filibuster rules. that's the 60 vote threshold to 50 votes, to pass meaningful legislation like voting rights, abortion protections, things that really angered democrats in the past. but of course, there are things -- that people who see this is purely political. sinema herself saying that

arizona is electorate has changed. now there's more registered independents than even democrats in the state. and of course, she is up for reelection in just two years. so you will see challenges come in ahead. but they can challenge for as a decade -- as a democrat, they'll have to run pretty much a new candidate against her as she runs most likely as an independent into use. >> yeah, we're certainly gonna have to see how this all plays out in two years time. julie tsirkin, thank gayle. still ahead more reactions, cinemas shakeup, and what it means for democrats 2024. plus, the republican lawmaker getting called out by our own nephew over her tearful reveal -- rebuke over the respectful marriage act. >> the bills implications submit to our ideology or be silenced. >> it's more like you want the power to force your religious beliefs on to everyone else. you are just going to have to learn to coexist with all of us. and i'm sure it's not that

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kind of this rare win for trump's lawyers? >> it's a little difficult to know exactly the context of this contempt request. because the hearings are closed. because it's a grand jury matter. but i think what is most likely to be going on is that it is a request for contempt for failure to comply with the grand jury subpoena. you will recall it's been reporting that the justice department served a grand jury subpoena on the trump team back in may, june. and a handful of documents were returned and a couple months later, with a go in with a search warrant, and find 13,000 documents. there's that saying, is that it? is that? it is that it? and then they get to more little scraps that show up. at one point, they just ask, could, for the lob of god, could you to sign a piece of debris that says you've returned it all? and they're refusing to do that. it's understandable, i suppose, why lawyers might be reluctant to do that when you're dealing with the client like donald trump. but the justice department wants to not only be able to collect enough evidence to

build a case, they probably have what's more important to them is making sure they have all of the classified documents back. the definition of a depth of -- a classified document is a documents that the disclosure would cause a exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the united states. they want the stuff back. i don't know why the judge denied. it she did say, i want your parties to work it out yourself. judges are often inclined to do that before they're willing to grant an order. perhaps she's giving them an order before she gives them an order. >> it's interesting, you, say can you sign a piece of uber saying you turned the documents and by the way tell us the truth about whether you've actually returned all the documents because it has been kind of this trickle of documents that we have been seeing over the last few months. when it comes of course to the conviction of the trump organization, i want to read folks your reaction. and i'd like to draw a lot. perhaps the dam of admissibility is breaking.

government lawyers who are investigating trump, such as special counsel jack smith, fulton county, g8, district attorney fani willis, a new york attorney letitia james, may be able to take advantage of the delusion and finally a hold trump accountable. do you think, this is the most recent outcome when it comes with the trump organization, disassembled and prosecutors here that are investigating the former president? >> i think so. you know i can call -- i recall a situation that i encountered when we talk to the former mayor of detroit. witnesses did not want to come forward because you had an air of invincibility. when he was in office he was very popular -- but the dam cracked, and people started testifying against, when he was convicted in a state court of perjury charges, and after that the floodgates opened. and people came forward and started sharing information. and so i think that some michelle victory by prosecutors in the trump organization case could have that same kind of

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just three days after clinching a major senate victory in georgia, democratic victory celebration was short loved of a customs and what announced she was touching the party. >> i promised that i would be an independent voice for our state. i promised that i would always do what is right for the people of arizona. and that's what i've done. registering as an independent and showing up to work with the title of independent, is a reflection of who i've always been. and it's a reflection of who arizona is. >> all right, sinema becomes the first senator to leave the party since 2009. -- shakes of not only the incoming senate, but also the 2020 landscape. political unrest loses absorbed only when we moved winning the 20th and the coast of the daily beast new and normal-ing, and

let me start with you on this one. let me start with you, i howard does this technically can change much for democrats specifically? >> if senator sinema stays true to her word, and it looks like she'll be caucusing with democrats, then there is nothing that will happen on the government side. the political side, it is a whole different story, what she is going to face in arizona. i can only think this was done for political purposes. that her polling must of reflected she couldn't win the democratic primary so she is taking this road. but there also two other independent senators caucusing with the democrats. so i don't know. i don't think it's the end of anything. >> daniel moody, talk a little bit to react here because i want to read for folks if i can your tweet from yesterday upon reacting to hearing similar switching teams. here you wrote to think that we will leave the democratic party,

a party that is fighting to hold on to democracy and pushing against white supremacy and may, and upended, says all you need to know about the queen of senate karen's. expand on that if you will. >> i find kristen sinema to be at the authoritarian in the side of our democracy. it is because of her undermining that we can't codify abortion. and that we can't quantify voting rights. because they refused to get rid of the filibuster. i think kristen sinema loves attention. she loves the spotlight. she loves, you know, grabbing hold of the medias narrative. and being the one that now everyone is going to look to see how she gonna vote? is she going to torpedo joe biden's, you know, direction and administration's goals for the american people? i personally think she is selfish. and she saw that she couldn't win as a democrat, so she's saying, all, while if democrats decide to put up the democrat against me in arizona we will split the but and then a republican will win. so i do. i think that it was really

dubious. a political maneuver on her part. we will see if she holds true to her word. that she will continue to caucus with democrats. but i find her really, really problematic. particularly at the time that we have a republican party, a really violent, volatile party, that is pushing our democracy to the brink. >> susan, you look like you wanted to respond to what the kneeling. >> no, i agree with much of what daniel was saying, i just think that whether she's an independent or democrat, she's still going -- she's still been a thorn in the side of the administration. so it's not part of her party administration registration. we it's our ability to get along with democrats and certain. issues or, to her credit, she has been involved in getting a lot of bipartisan work done within the senate. and wouldn't the reasons why we are able to get to an infrastructure bill. a chip spill. but that doesn't affect her registration. her registration is a political

move. >> let's talk, if we can guys, while i have you both about herschel walker. and specifically his loss in the state of georgia. and the trump factor. right, and all of. it trump essentially, especially in the lead up to -- he stayed away from herschel walker, not because he wanted to, but because he was advised to do. so i think he held, kind of a virtual type of rally for herschel walker the leading weekend up. before the vote. but they really kind of want to distance from him. is trump at this point more kryptonite than ever? susan, i'll go to you. >> absolutely. to think that the former republican president, the leader of nominee, seeking the nomination for the republican party's 2024 presidential race, he is not welcome in georgia? georgia is still a red state. it's just that he is too toxic. because wherever there is an

independent or moderate republicans, they have to, they will vote against donald trump. without question. and this is a big loss for him. he lost in arizona, he lost in pennsylvania. and it was all because of his involvement in those campaigns. yes he got people through the primary but boy is he toxic in general election. >> danielle, keefe naughton wrote a piece for the hill. herschel walker was the one who's lost on the ballot budget was donald trump's political career went down in georgia. what do you make of that, daniel? >> yeah, you know, i really want to give credit to the political apparatus that was built in georgia by stacey abrams, by black voters matters, by organizers that have been on the ground who never gave up on georgia. right, i think there's oftentimes democratic seeing to

republicans and kind of about their hands. and it has been black organizers and their allies, on the ground, in georgia, that made georgia possible to be purple. right? that made, you know, reverend warnock, unfortunately having to run for the same seat multiple times because of georgia's jim crow archaic law. does that require him to do so. but, you know, we're here in this moment with democratic's controlling the surprised us because of this apparatus that was. built hochul walker was a terrible candidate. he was an embarrassing candidate. and republicans should have been embarrassed, and felt insulted by republicans who even run a candidate like vests in the first place. >> yep. >> danielle moodie, thank, you susan del percio, thank you as well. coming up by the way the next hour, we're joined by democratic congressman ted lieu, in california, to get his reaction on carson cinema leaving the party. , pluses expectations for the impending january six committee report. all, right the house passed the

respect for merrick jack, this week which adds the protections for same-sex and interracial marriage. but it was all too much to handle for one gop congresswoman. >> i hope and pray, that my colleagues will find the courage to join me in opposing this misguided and this dangerous bill. >> yeah, that was a u.s. congresswoman, vicky hartzler, a republican of missouri, to be exact, crying on the house floor over lgbtq+ americans right to marry who they love. but now a viral tiktok moment, a -- hard nephew had some thoughts for his aunt. >> a united states congresswoman, my aunt vicky, started crying because gay people like me can get married. so despite coming up to my aunt this past february, i guess she's still just as much a homophobe. it is more like you want the

power to force your religious beliefs on to everyone else. and because you don't have that power you feel like you're being silenced. but you are not. you're just going to have to learn to coexist with all of us. and i'm sure it's not that hard. >> claude her nephew there speaking his truth. with that victory. in washington, coming up everybody, after this still unsolved murder of four of their classmates, university about how students are graduating this weekend. with an increased police presence. and the next hour, a look at soccer journalist, grant walsh interview with msnbc just weeks before his death. talking about his run, his run in, with state stadium in security. >> i arrived at the stadium last night for the u.s. game, wearing the shirt you just showed with the roomba around the soccer ball supporting lgbtq issues, and immediately it was not allowed in. in. t centrum silver

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morning in ukraine russia launched more than a dozen iranian-made attack drones that infrastructure targets in the southern part of the country. this structure coming after the biden administration warned on friday that russia and iran were strengthening their military ties, into a full-fledged defense partnership. all of this is coming after ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy was beamed time

person of the. or in the cover story, is lynskey said this. we're dealing with the powerful state that is pathologically unwilling to let ukraine both. zelenskyy told me they see the democracy and freedom of ukraine. as a question of their own survival. the only way to defeat an enemy like that, not just to win a temporary truce, but to win the war, is to persuade the rest of the free world to pull ukraine in the other direction, towards sovereignty, independents, and peace. the loss of freedom and one nation, he argues, erodes freedom and all the rest. if they devour us, the sun in your sky will get dimmer. >> look armando what's is the former press secretary to the president of the ukraine, and he joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> so the president, absolutely, president zelenskyy in this piece for time magazine talks about how one of his priorities throughout this 11 and a half month conflict has been keeping

ukraine in the spotlight. not letting the rest of the world forget what is happening in ukraine. he has now earned this prestigious position as time person of the year. has he succeeded in doing that? >> well, thank you for this question. and let me remind you that president zelenskyy once appeared on the cover of time, back in 2019. and then, this article also written by simon shuster who is a very professional journalist and covers quite a bit of the world for a long time, this article is called the man in the middle. and it was devoted to president zelenskyy is a person who was leading the country when there was in, 2019, some effort may be to withdraw or withhold support by the united states to actually ukraine that was battling russia in donbas. so right now we see that these articles and this publication

is devoted to the spirit of ukrainian people and him, the leader who leads the country in war. this shows a huge progress, a huge of illusion, of the image of ukraine which is absolutely important. the second important part is that as ukraine is concerned about possible fatigue that can come of course in months and months of war here we remind the people of the world that the war brings people here fighting for the independents, democracy, against aggressive autocracy. and the, point let me remind you that very aggressive russian propaganda was always trying to leverage premiere vote zelenskyy and by the way, let me quoted as a part of washington. when does this recognition, we see that, volodymyr zelenskyy sounds as a leader of the independent country. and these fights also our russian propaganda. so this is very important from different parts of you and of

course zelenskyy is, i know, he is happy personal to be recognized as person of the year by time. but at the same time, he knows that this is the award for the ukrainian people. and this is a very, very meaningful and timely award. >> avril haines, the director of national intelligence, so that the u.s. intelligence committee was more optimistic about the queen coming out of the winter this time around. i want to play for you what she said and then i'll have you react. >> so then when you get past past the winter, the question is what will be counteroffensive be looking, like in the spring, and in march of that area. and we expect that frankly both militaries are going to be in a situation where they're looking to try to refit and we supply and constitute so that they are prepared for that counteroffensive. we've a fair bit of skepticism

as to whether the russians will be prepared to do that. and i think, yeah, more optimistically for the ukrainians in that timeframe. >> julie, i do agree with this? >> let me say that ukraine already has shown huge results in this war. first of, all we showed that all of these mythological propaganda, the strings of russian army has failed for reasons that the russian army is pretty corrupt. it doesn't have the equipment, or the necessary things, mostly that it is not motivation to come to another country, and kill you, and stay for months. ukrainians are very strong of mind because we know what to fight for. we have a successful counter fenton -- offenses in kyiv, in person, regions, and we are not giving up. so dealing with the fact that ukrainian armies have trained for months, trained with the nato countries, and we gather

the necessary supplies from other countries definitely we look for -- forward with optimism in the future. but i will say a lot of concerns to. the reason that of course we understand that everybody is exhausted, and we will need more supplies because the ammunition and the weapons run out, blue tend to run out so ukrainians heavily rely on a military, financial, support, and political support on the west. and we ask you to stay united until we defeat russian army and keep you out from ukraine. >> helium and, ali thank you. we'll be right back everybody. k everybody. k. it goes on clear. no mess. just soothing comfort. try vicks vapostick. it's the subway series menu. 12 irresistible subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪

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