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arizona senator christiansen amazon ounce meant that she is leaving the democratic party to register as an independent. with no word on which party she will definitely caucus with. in the lower chamber, the democrats are squeezing all that they can from these few last weeks of their majority in the house. a big year and win for that caucus. after passing landmark legislation this week to protect same-sex and interracial marriage. still, congress will become -- democrats are strategizing ahead to 2024. revisiting the primary schedule, and which states will open up that season. those compensations driven by what the party base looks like now, and later. the feature documentary on -- it deters coast to coast this

weekend. director josh alexander joins me later to talk about the premier, the buzz around the film. and whether i should do action, comedy, or romance next. i will let you decide. of course, throughout the show. my thoughts on the homecoming of britney griner, the coalition that emerged to see her freed from captivity in russia of which i am proud to say i was part of as head of national action network. but also, the bad criticism of her release from the right. that happened red as she was released. i will dive into that in the show. but we begin tonight with the intense week that was in our senate. and the year ahead from the country. joining me now is senator gary peters, democrat of michigan, and chair of the senate homeland security and governmental affairs committee. senator, thank you for joining

us. i suppose on the one hand i should be congratulating you and senate democrats on senator warnock's runoff when this week. a win that was supposed to secure 51 seats majority for your caucus. of course, your colleague christians intimate announced friday that she will register as an independent that demands that victory somewhat as she has yet to indicate which party she will caucus with. what is your reaction to this, let's start there. >> well, let me just first start with the amazing victory for raphael warnock. just an incredibly exciting night to have him when. to win by a very good margin. there was clear, the contrast between the two candidates in that race was about as wide as you can get. but we know georgia can be a challenging battleground state for democrats. but it was a great victory. and clearly very excited to

have raphael warnock continuing to his amazing service in the senate in the years ahead. and that victory, as you mentioned, here's a 51 senators. which is going to be very meaningful for us. particularly when it comes to our committee assignments to have an extra democrat on those committees. that means we will move a lot more efficiently, more federal judges. republicans have been doing everything they can to slow that process down. and we have been focused on ensuring that federal judges that get appointed are folks who actually believe in the rule of law, believe in protecting this amazing democrat republic of ours. a big departure from what we saw in the previous administration. and now we will be able to go and even move more aggressively to make sure we have qualified individuals in those key positions. >> now, senator, last week 12 republican senators voted for the bipartisan respect for marriage act. enshrining same-sex an

interracial marriage, this week -- the bill now awaiting president biden's signature. obviously the bill didn't have a plurality of republicans in either chamber voting in favor. still, what do you make of even the limited gop support for the bill? an election year dominated by so-called culture wars. >> it was a great event. i had the privilege, i was actually presiding over the senate when that vote was taken. had an opportunity to call out the vote, make sure passed the senate, i continued on to the house. but it was wonderful. we weren't able to get republicans court. but if you look at that support versus where the country is. the country has moved well beyond where the republican party is when it comes to enshrining basic fundamental rights for folks in this country. we were able to get some

republican votes. but we shouldn't have gotten a whole lot more if folks are actually representing the will of the people in their individual states. but we are gonna continue to fight. and our democratic caucus will continue to protect the fundamental rights of americans in this country. we may have a challenge on our hands. as you know, next congress with the majority coming in to the house. but that not in any way gonna slow down our efforts in the senate to use our democratic majority to move legislation forward. that is critically important to enshrine rights for americans. >> now, my first question, i also like to ask about senator sinema. well, will that complicate matters in the senate? he didn't directly respond to me asking you about that. >> yeah, i apologize on that. right now certainly none of us, well, i certainly wasn't pleased with what her announcement. however, i believe she will

continue to caucus with us. she will have democratic committees. so at least from a day-to-day operation of the senate, i don't expect there will be much of a change. we will now have an additional senator on the committee. i serve, as you mentioned, in the opening, as chair of homeland security and government affairs. senator sinema is actually a chair of one of my subcommittees. i expect her to likely continue to be that chair. it will also give me an additional democrat. right now it is 50/50 in the committee. it makes it difficult. we don't have kamala harris to break a tie in the committee. she ranks ties in the full senate floor. and that makes it sometimes very difficult to do the kind of business that we need to do and get legislation out on the committee. senator sinema will be on the committee. i expect to work very closely with her as we have in the past in order to move legislation forward. and we will have that extra democratic vote. that's important. not only for moving legislation but also allows us to use our powers -- top investigative committee in

the senate. we plan to have a number of investigations that will be really calling people out, particularly corporate america. on issues that the american people want to have answers to. and subpoena power will give us the ability to do that. you know, much more effective way. >> well not that senator sinema was there dependent vote on a lot of issues. but i am saying, it's not you. let me ask you this, democratic national committee -- >> approved president bush's push to have south carolina lead off the party's presidential primary calendar in 2024. nevada, new hampshire, georgia, and your state of michigan would follow over the next three weeks. the president called for the repositioning to emphasize black voters voices in early primaries in the process. particularly in south carolina, georgia, and michigan. dnc chair jaime harrison said the proposal would make the party stronger. but there is already been some

pushback from republicans, and even some democratic officials in iowa and new hampshire over the proposed changes. where do you come down on this, senator, is the timing right for the president to request this? >> yeah, it is, i fully support the request from president biden. i think that having, a state like south carolina leading off the primaries for us is a an incredibly important thing. south carolina represents the broad diversity of our country. it will give us a better idea of where voters are when it comes to selecting our nominee. but as you can imagine, i am particularly excited about michigan. michigan, as you know, you visited our state many times. i visited with you, reverend sharpton. you know it is an incredibly diverse state. and it really represents what the beauty of our country's. why we are a battleground state. because we definitely represent the country as a whole. and what better way of for our candidates who are running for the presidency to demonstrate

their appeal to a broad audience and key folks within those states. i think it is a right decision. i think we will get a better primary process, and we will have candidates who truly reflect america running as our nominee. >> before you go, the department of homeland security released its biannual terrorism bulletin last week. identifying heightened threats against jewish americans. migrants and the lgbtq community in america right now. arising from the, quote, persistent and leak full threat of violent domestic extremism. as senate homeland security chair, what do you make of these warnings. and are you concerned that this divided incoming congress will make it more difficult to contain the extremist threat through federal action? as you know, with my civil rights activism, we had the

eighth summit at the white house with antisemitic groups, anti asians, anti lgbtq. as well as black, started a lot of the funerals in buffalo. one of the terrorist attacks. this is a real concern. weijia buried ten blacks in buffalo that a man shot and terrorized. there's a question of whether he is going to plead guilty or not. what does this mean? and what will you say we ought to be looking for, whether or not this is gonna be more difficult when republicans take in the house to make legislation happen that would put some things in place. >> well i think you are right to highlight this. and i am concerned. in fact, just a little over two weeks ago my committee put out a report on the rise on domestic terrorism, which we are seeing in this country. we have both the director of the fbi as well as the secretary of homeland security saying it. in terms of terrorism, a number

one terrorist threat in this country is not foreign terrorism. although we obviously have to keep our eye on foreign terrorism and be prepared. but they say that the number and terrorist threat is homegrown. it is domestic terrorism from extremists. and unfortunately in the large measure, the insidious ideology of white supremacy that is fueling a lot of what we are seeing in terms of violent behavior. and it is one we need to focus on. our reports show that right now we are not doing good enough job of even identifying the scope of the problem. that it is much larger than some of the reporting that we are getting from the federal government. we have to rely on outside groups to give us information. that is unacceptable. we also have to make sure that resources are being applied to the number one terrorist threat within our country, which is the domestic terrorism. i am very concerned that we may not get support from republicans in the house that are gonna help us in our efforts to make sure that we give the resources necessary to deal with this threat to the folks who are on the front

line. >> all right, thank you senator gary peters. joining me now is charles lowe. he is an msnbc political analyst and opinion columnist for the new york times. thank you for joining me today. let's start with this. from following herschel walker's loss in the georgia senate runoff race this week, you reflected in the new york times on wednesday, and you know i read you all the time, that, quote, trump's land, brand, rather. his celebrity warship and promulgation was not enough to push walker over the edge. while walker failed, trump failed even worse -- to that point, what do you think this latest loss for trump endorsed candidates revealed about the sentiment of republican voters towards the former president and now 2024, hopefully? >> i think it's a both sides --

a little but the republican brand that he is not enduring enough energy to push this campaign. but it also says a lot about the rest of america. we are not part of the trump basin. whether or not they're able to just lay down and let this happen. what voters continue to say across the country, they are not willing to lay down like this, this is not okay like from them. they are fighting back against that. >> now, you voted in the georgia elections and waited over an hour and a half to vote in atlanta. in one of your recent columns you wrote, quote, voter suppression is one of the surest cues for apathy. nothing makes you value a thing like someone trying to steal it from you, and quote. can you elaborate on that point, especially when faced against voter suppression tactics. how does this receive some georgia voters -- current political attitude in the state. >> well, there is nothing like the energy that i feel in georgia. i lived in new york for 25

years. it was casual. it's not a thing. in georgia, the energy around voting is intense. and everyone is engaged in that process. but voter suppression does work, though. and one thing we should not overlook is that in the general election part of this cycle in georgia, the black voter turnout may be, depending on how we see it -- what that data looks like. it may be as low as it was since 2006. what is in the runoff that black people reengaged and re-energized and said, oh, no, no, we can't let this happen. all the other noise dropped away and it was just these two candidates. what it looks like right now is the voting population was made up of 32% of those votes were brought people. only 29% of it --

glacier voters -- black people were really energized in the runoff. and that was kind of similar to what happened in the last time warnock ran, or the black percentage of the vote increased from the general election to the runoff. so it is not just to say that voter suppression doesn't work. they keep saying this, because they had record turnout. oh, this is the big bogeyman. i think their phrase was, voter suppression was the big foot of georgia that they made this out to be a big thing that it actually was not. no. it did work. the problem was that the thing they were trying to steal the vote made by people say, you will not do this. they turned out even more. i'm getting that from my atlanta office, that a lot of people who came out because they wanted to make that point, but it's almost like saying that oh, look we put people in the back of the bus and

energized him to march. like we wanted to that a march in the first place. do you think democrats should continue to put a lot of resources into georgia looking ahead to the 2024 presidential race? do you think it's now fair to call a georgia purple state? >> first of all, that is a big point that people need to stop skipping over. the idea that georgia is now a contested say is incredible, it's historic, and it's because of black people. the black population, the number of registered black voters increased 25% between 2016 in 2020. incredible. no other group of people increase their voting population like that. -- we have to stop and realize how historic what we are seeing is and how empowered black people are in that state. >> and unprecedented. >> unprecedented. be only other deep southern state that was a swing state with florida and that's because

florida has this really interesting mix of population. -- a lot of people from the northeast and a lot of people from cuba, caribbean, in south america. it's a really different southern state. but of the deep south southern states, georgia is in the middle and it is now a swing state. that is huge. >> while i have you, we had some breaking news that britney griner's wife cherelle just made a first instagram post since their reunion, posting a collage of photos and detailing her gratitude to all the people she is thankful for. i wanted to get your opinion on this. you know i was involved early in the calling for her release and talking to the president about it. republicans and right-wing media figures have found a whole host of reasons to be mad about the release of wnba star brittney griner, who was freed in a prisoner drop on thursday after nearly a year in russia's

custody. much of their rhetoric centers on the bigoted assertion that griner, a black gay athlete, who has been vocal about police brutality and racial injustice, is anti-american for being out posting in politics and therefore unworthy of rescue by the biden administration. what's your reaction to this? >> that rationale is ridiculous. what we should say is, hostage swaps are ill with no, russia's taking hostages, not prisoners, and they are always political, they are always complicated. what we should be doing is applauding the coalition that kept the pressure on, the political pressure in the united states, that made the biden administration go to the table and say it's worth it to us regardless of who and what we have to swap. it's always complicated. there's no easy answers. everyone over there who isn't america, deserves to be home, you can compare one to the

other. we got brittany home. it is a testament to the coalition of people who cut depression on to keep her in the spotlight. >> and i'll be talking about that later. i do give a lot of credit to president biden and secretary blinken for making it a priority. we are still praying and hoping in pushing for paul whelan to also be returned. charles -- thank you for being with, us after the break, the personal price that mitch mcconnell could pay after his mid term limits steps cost the gop senate. later, the supreme court weighs in on an historic case that could've been american elections. but first my colleague richard louis with the today's top stories. >> good saturday to. you longtime u.s. sports journalist grant wahl died last night while covering word cup soccer instructor. earlier this, week he wrote that he was feeling sick. he was detained last month by

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decision to leave the democratic party and serve as an independent. -- is already signaling he might see the democratic nomination for the senator seat in 2024. democrats had a good showing in arizona this. here senator mark kelly won reelection and katie hobbs will be the next governor. a team of, are you worried about a three way senate race in 2024, with a democrat, a republican, and possibly senator sinema running for election as an independent? >> it's early yet, but i absolutely think democrats could have a very good shot. voters, independent, some republicans, and a lot of democrats are obviously voting in arizona to make sure that extreme republicans-ism, mac, a trump elected officials do not get reelected or aren't elected. independents have been in

arizona, -- senator sinema is an individual that nobody can really tell where she stands on anything when it comes certain certain politics. -- so, it's going to be quite interesting i think, especially if you have somebody like trump on the ballot again in 2024. -- i'm not concerned, given where arizona has been for democrats and increasingly going more democrat in the last few election cycles. but it will be interesting. >> miles, the january six committee is expected to release its final report in just over a week. -- making criminal referrals to the department of justice for former trump and at least four other individuals, according to chairman bennie thompson. meanwhile, the doj has subpoenaed local law election officials in swing states,

asking for communications with or involvement trump's efforts to try to overturn the 2020 election. what impact will those house select committee's report have on the doj's own investigation? how concerned should the trump team be about this final report? >> well rat, i actually think the trump team should be very concerned about the report, not necessarily from a public opinion perspective, because i don't anticipate the final report is going to significantly move the needle. but what is very significant, is how much the justice department appears to be relying on the investigative pathway that the january 6th select committee laid out, repeatedly, we've seen doj reach out to the select committee and asked for transcripts and testimony. we've even seen reporting that at the highest levels of the

justice department, the attorney general has effectively seen this investigation in a new light, because of the way it's been presented publicly by the january 6th select committee. i think the bigger impact from the committee is not necessarily public opinion, but is on the doj investigation itself. and they may find new leads from this report that they have an otherwise considered. it does seem like the new special counsel's investigation is heating up, and the outstretched of swing station, especially michigan, for testimony in conversation with key officials there, continues to indicate that this is a sweeping investigation that cuts across the country. they're not looking at one or two people. they are looking at a nationwide conspiracy ref. >> mile, sticking with you, on wednesday the supreme court ordered all arguments in the case that could up federal elections. -- out of north carolina, is the

dangerous sun often -- that this theory argues that the constitution grad state legislatures sole power to regulate federal elections in their state. this would allow state legislatures to gerrymander will, suppress votes, and maybe even throw at the results of a presidential election. democratic governor roy cooper of north carolina says quote, giving state legislatures unfettered control over federal elections is not only a bad idea but also a blatant misreading of the constitution. what's your reaction to this case? what's your read on how this will play out? >> well, if the conservative justices and upholding this independent state legislator

theory, rev, we notice things will happen. number one, american politics will become more gridlocked and we're gerrymandered. here's a mind-blowing statistic. only roughly 20 to 25% of americans approve of the job the congress is doing. in other words, most people don't think congress is doing its job. but 90 to 95% of congressional incumbents win reelection. why is that? it's because of gerrymandering. gerrymandering has made our democratic system incredibly less competitive, more extreme, and voters more and more frustrated that is not responding to them. it's a supreme court upholds this, we know the problems are gonna get worse. but number two, you hit the nail on the head, it could potentially result in elections being thrown out. we saw that as recently as 2020, where legislators in swing states wanted to usurp the voters themselves and throw the

elections in favor of donald trump. we could see an exact replay of that happen in 2024 if trump is the nominee. -- and legislators could actually make it happen. >> many of us are ecstatic that wnba star brittney griner is back at home after a prisoner swap with russia. -- bringing home other wrongly convicted americans, including retired marine paul whelan, who is still detained in russia. right now there is some on the right who are criticizing biden's decision to bring griner home while wayland is still there. why is news of griner's release so polarizing for some? >> well, i think honestly, there's quite a lot of homophobia and racism in some of this critique. quite honestly, there's gonna

be people who are having a lot of opinions on this who don't have a good understanding of geopolitical politics. if you are really looking at what putin cares about, he's gonna be looking at what he can best get, and what he was most interested and was keeping somebody hostage who had a lot of interest and a lot of concern from a lot of american citizens, and that was brittney griner, given why she was over there. she's a popular wnba player. it's one of those things that i think at the end of the day, even the whelan family said, you, know britney griner getting home, that's a victory. our situation is a little different because of the implications of what he's been charged with. if one of those things where quite frankly, trying to equate or wonder whether she's worth to be traded or not, is definitely playing into racist and homophobic terms quite frankly. >> i can again repeat, i give credit to president biden and

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>> when i first started my career as an activist, i honestly never expected that a film would be made about my work, let alone my life. this weekend, it is across this country showing loud mouth, a documentary about my career over 50 years, the battle, the victories and of course the losses and the stakes. here tonight in a rare case of art imitating life or life imitating art on politicsnation, i find myself the subject of my own interview with filmmaker who made that movie about me. joining me now, josh alexander, the director of last month. josh, good to have you on the show tonight. for all the travel i do as an activist, i think i developed a greater respect for what actors go do when they do superhero movies, because the press store for lot mouth has been intense.

the film is premiering and 100 to theaters this weekend. as dashing and handsome is the subject, the film itself as having an impact thanks in no small part to your direction. what is your reaction to the films reception? >> i think it's been incredible. i can't think in recent memory of a documentary film having a release like this, this broad, but specifically, it's a film that so discomforting around issues of race and especially around the issues of race as they speak to particular sensitivities, literal sensitivities around race and race relations in the country, so i think it's extraordinary to have such a wide release. >> i want to play a bit from the film, and tense moment from a rally, where i am joined by dr. ni tiffany christians, sister of an oklahoma shooting victim.

then i get to come back for your reaction, because you flew out there with me in the pandemic. they got some private planes to get us to these places. you made certain choices based on my story, i had no editorial control of your film, so let's roll the clip. >> the rev really should not do this. i don't believe it's feasible with the climate, with the reports that we are getting from the office, the amount of people out there. >> i am going to do it. we get threats all the time, i am going back to the rally. >> the reverend al sharpton, president of -- >> love you so much. >> love you. >> no justice -- >> no peace! >> no justice -- >> no peace!

>> can you tell our audience who have not seen the film, why that section matters? >> it matters because it was in the middle of the pandemic, in the election cycle. the rhetoric occurring around the racial reckoning in this country from people in the presidential administration and other circles was so intense that there was a real threat of serious violence. that was one of my closest to be there that situation before, but to actually sit there and see that happen on camera, this is not in the film but after that little scene, you said don't let anyone come on stage, and we had to make a decision about whether our cinematographer should follow you on stage. we decided that he should. he walked out in that moment behind you, what the audience is seeing now, not knowing if all of the volume onstage. we are talking about the real stakes. >> and that there was a threat that there was some shooter

that wanted to do something. the stabbing is already in the film. -- is what area do you think i should tackle next. should i go into acting now, comedy, romantic leading man, you're a director, what would you have may do next? >> i always ask you if you had to take some time off and you say that you rest in work. i think you've chosen the right profession to be in, and that is what you should keep doing. >> you got that right, you followed me around enough enough. i am only teasing. i thank you for it, and i thank you for joining me tonight. again, the film is called loud mouth. it's playing at theaters across the country right now, and will debut on amazon prime and apple tv on january 13th. stick around for my final thoughts, after the break.

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