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supreme court had what might be its most consequential we cover
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oral arguments this term. two cases in particular were pete souza joins me with an intimate look at 1600 pennsylvania avenue like only he can. i'm ayman, let's get started. all right, this week the supreme court had what might be its most consequential week of all arguments this turn two cases in particular were argued, that could effectively change america's we know it, and that's not been hyperbolic. when could change or political system, the other could fundamentally change our civil rights. our, show for months, has been closely following more versus harper, which is a case involves a dispute over north carolina's congressional map. -- they argue that it has supreme authority to create rules for federal elections, without, and
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i emphasize, without any oversight from state courts. it centers around a once fringe legal proposition known as the independent state legislator theory. and under this theory, legislators would have the final say on nearly every aspect of federal elections, including the number of early voting days. the amount of polling places. and even whether the people vote for president should be ultimately accepted. and a version of this theory, if it sounds familiar to you, is because a version of this theory was actually promoted by trump allies during his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. here is justice kagan, laying out the stakes this week.
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. >> this is a proposal that gets rid of the normal checks and balances, on the way that big governmental decisions are made in this country. and you might think, that it gets rid of all those checks and balances, and exactly the time when they are needed most. >> now, tearing oral arguments, the court six conservative justices appeared split on the matter, roberts and barrett in particular, appeared to skeptical of the maximal version of the republicans argument. as mark joseph stern -- it probably comes down to justice amy coney barrett thomas alito gorsuch and kavanaugh have all supported in the past. sonia sotomayor, kagan, and jackson, clearly have no desire to revive -- it so it serves as the ultimate test of her originalism. then that is the case in which the six conservatives appeared to be in, unison siding with a plight of an evangelical website design, or who asserts that work in the same sex
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couples, would violate her first amendment rights. some legal experts argue that a decision in the website of signers favor, could open the door to lgbtq discrimination across the united states, certainly limit their access to services. but the ramifications of this case were overshadowed by samuel alito, for trying to turn the oral arguments into a comedy routine. alito tempted to joke about, quote, black children and kkk or should i say ku klux klan outfits, and it insinuated that justice was familiar with a adult website. so the end of the, week it fell to congress to bring seriousness back to the court. the house judiciary committee held a hearing and -- and a lack of enforceable ethics policies for nine of the most powerful people in america. committee chair jerry nandler, made it clear that we can no longer expect justices to operate an ethical honor system
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just because they should. >> the moral of the story is this. supreme court justices cannot effectively south police their own ethics. we shouldn't expect him to, without established guidelines, nobody addresses impossible task of evaluating ethics without a clear standard. we have justices accepting overtures from individuals seeking to influence the court with little to no transparency. ethics should not be a partisan issue. >> joining me now is dahlia lithwick, she's an msnbc law and politics analyst, and author of lady justice. women, the law, and a battle to save justice. thank you for making time for us, let's start with this, case you and i have spoken about this, more more versus harper, many feel that it could up and democracy in this country as we know it. based on what you heard this,
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week is still a threat? to have any more clarity on where the court stands? . >> well, i would start with the proposition that we have to be so careful, about making assumptions about what happens in a case, based on what happened at oral argument. every supreme court watcher will tell you, that they have been burned more than once by making predictions. but i think you're kind of assessment, and you cited my friend mark joseph stern slate, i think that's correct. i don't think i counted five very enthusiastic conservative votes for the maximalist, aka bonkers view of the independent state legislature doctrine. it felt very much to me, ayman, as of the justices you cited, particularly barrett and kavanaugh, we're trying to pick some middle path, that would cabin the degree of --
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of what they did prove and also i also thought that john roberts was not on boards for any of this. >> in a new pice you noted or what you called a fascinating aspect of this week's argument, which is ample evidence -- to many members of the supreme court seem to be inching away of from blatant democracy busting in a policy partisan war over democracy. do you think that weighs on the conscience of the supreme court justices. i know that sometimes we like to think of the -- look at the law, and less about the law, saying the but do they look at the it from their perspective of, this could've handled, democracy and they should take that into consideration? >> i, mean i certainly took a lot of heat for writing the most aspirational piece average in a long time, when i suggested that it felt as though, again, those three justices of the quote unquote
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center of the court, not gorsuch, alito, or thomas, they're all in for this. but the justices of the new center of the court, might be feeling a little bit of what the public was expressing in the midterms, which is we don't like election deniers, we don't particularly like riots and violence, we don't like people attempting to set aside elections. and at bottom, that's what the independent state legislature theory is. it's a form of massive vote suppression, and of doing away with checks and balances, so my sense is that a court that is looking around, and we know john roberts, at least, is. and brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett to a lesser degree, are dubious about the public's respect and regard for the court, might be able to back away from a big big swing lawsuit, that has no merits, that has no constitutional at or historical basis, and would really be a part of this move to kind of end democracy. i don't think they are on board for that projects, and if you think about the ways that the court keeps batting way don't
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have donald trump, it feels like they're not on board for the component of trumpism, that is democracy, it's over. it's interesting to say that way, because we are talking about democracy and political rights, the other case i wanted to talk to about was more about of civil rights, and that is 303 creative, do web designer in this case have never made a wedding website for at any one, it certainly is not -- over someone's sexuality -- >> this is a case that was entirely hypothetical, there's no harm done, an unlikely masterpiece cake shop, case which folks will -- i do want to make a wedding cake for same sex couple, there is no same-sex couple here, because no one's been denied services, no inside relief
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under the colorado public accommodations law. so right, what we kind of fill the void of having no parties on the other side. only one aggrieved party this had no harm, it's a bunch of hypotheticals, and you said it in your intro, it led to some awkward comedy stylings. i'm assuming justice alito didn't quite realize what he was doing. what i was doing -- materially harming gay couples around the country and instead, he substituted think that was of a silly, trivial, and demeaning of the seriousness of this case that for a lot of us who are watching, it felt kind of insulting. >> i feel, like for such a long, time we've held the supreme court in this country we put it
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on expel, still rightfully, so right? because it was such an important institution, it still is such an important institution, but i think the more we're seeing these justices and the way they reveal more of their themselves i think a lot of americans are getting on board with some need for reform of the supreme court if not expansion and in some kind of ethical constraints on this powerful institution. delia lithwick, it's always a pleasure, thanks so much for making time for us tonight, we really appreciated as always. >> thank you. >> i want to continue this conversation with michelle goldberg a columnist for the new york times, an msnbc political analyst, and elaine beverley, a political strategist and host of our mayors podcast. michelle, your reaction to the increased polarization of the supreme court, and how it hurts his legitimacy, this final point that i was just talking about here about how this institution that we were reveered for such a long time, is no longer the institution that should be revered in the
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same way. >> well, i'm not sure it should've ever been revered. we came of age, in a unique situation, we can move at age -- when the court played a very progressive role in the right revolution, but that is not the norm for the supreme court. the supreme's mostly been a reactionary institution it's been a shake back on liberal progress. in that sense it is just reverting to the mean. i do not think this supreme court ruled deserves any generation whatsoever it's a sorely political institution, and and while it's a relief that is not taking the legislator very seriously, it is shocking that it ever agreed to hear this case in the first place instead of just dismissing it out of hand i also believe this supreme court is not going to further and not
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kind of taking a scalpel to voting rights, we can be glad it has not taken a sledgehammer to them. but, that is cold comfort given all the damage this quarters done. >> can the supreme court regain the trust of the american people, or is it too late? poll after poll shows that americans, even before the overturning of roe v. wade and especially since the overturning of roe v. wade, americans are growing less confident of the supreme court that it has become more political and not truly objective. >> that is right, eamonn. the court has a public confidence problem. the public largely no longer believes that the supreme court is above partisanship, above politics, and we have evidence of ginni thomas working with
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donald trump and trying to overturn our elections. and clarence thomas not being held to account for that. we have evidence that the court is taking positions that strike against -- judicial precedent, just completely rebuilding the ambit of our laws based on their reading of textualism of the constitution, but with no appreciation for the way that the constitution is a living breathing document affecting our lives. alito flipping quips in this 303 case is further evidence of the ways in which the this arch conservative alignment of justices has very little appreciation for the way that discrimination is affecting the daily lives of millions of americans. they have a public confidence problem. >> michelle, elena, do not go far we're gonna talk more later
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in this hour. up next, democratic congressman mondaire jones joins me to discuss the marriage act. that first, louis is here with the headlines >> the man suspected of making the bomb is in custody. authorities say sunday, panama flight one of three exploded over lockerbie on december 1988, killing all 259 people, including 189 u.s. citizens on board that plane. and another 11 on the ground. a bomb threat forced the evacuation of a paddy labelle concert in milwaukee, late saturday, the r&b star taking off stage by security during her performance, a video on social media shows the moment that security while station teller what was happening the canine unit search at theater notices were found. and karen bass was sworn in to become los angeles's 43rd mayor. today the ceremony was performed by vice president kamala harris. she is now the first woman and first woman of color to be mayor of los angeles.
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representatives past the respect for marriage act which would guarantee federal protections for same-sex and interracial marriages. 258 to 169. and now heads to president biden's desk for signature. the legislation was spearheaded in the senate by tammy baldwin, the most openly gay person elected to the senate, excuse me. it's no doubt a win for lgbtq rights. but the bill does have its limitations, notably, and allows religious organizations to deny services to lgbtq couples, according to their personal beliefs. joining me now to discuss, this and much more, is democratic congressman mondaire jones of new york. congressman, it's always good to see you, thanks so much for coming back on the show. your thoughts on the respect
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for marriage act. >> it's great to be with you, ayman, this is an incredible achievement, i'm really proud of what we've been able to do in the united states congress. we even got a filibuster proof majority over the senate, when does that happen? this is something when i was growing, up -- ensure marriage equality for all the states that currently allow same-sex and interracial marriages to be performed under state law i'm really excited about, this we've got a lot more work to, do you mentioned some of the challenges, another challenge is that this still does not ensure marriage equality in every single state in the union. and we've got to go further than what we've done thus far for that reason. >> i think some of us who have been watching the story closely, say they alarm bells i started to go off -- for the push to pass the respect for marriage act after justices concurring opinion, actor now overturn the opinion. because there is a part where you said that the court should
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revisit cases that established we know this country well, that is a signal for somebody out there to bring litigation forward, to bring it all the way up to the supreme court. are you afraid that the supreme court will take that step, or try to take that step now that clarence thomas has signaled that he wants to see that, more or less? >> >> in fact, that was the impetus for this legislation. we saw in justice thomas's concurring opinion in dobs, but they're gonna be a number of other rights that are taken away from millions of americans. in the same way that this far-right 63 super majority on the court, straightaway the fundamental right to the we wanted to get ahead of the problem, and we did that, but we also know that there are other things on the chopping block. the right to contraception, the right to so many other things that we simply take for granted in our everyday lives. these are the problems that you have because the right has set
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the court with radical extremists. mitch mcconnell, for example, denying obama the ability to appoint merrick garland to the supreme court. now we have a 63 hyper partisan majority that does not care about its own presidents, even. >> we see that even in relief that it is provided, as well as marriage equality in the form -- of and other things that it has been doing. we expect these decisions to be rolled back in the next few years, unfortunately. >> let's shift to the national defense authorization act, they passed the nda this week and it set a record 858 billion dollars for military spending i. believe 45 billion dollars more than what the white house was asking for in this budget. was that necessary? >> no, it was not. i hear a lot of folks concerned about inflation in this country, i share their perspectives in the same way that i voted
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against the nda last year, i voted against it this time around the ndaa is a holiday for lobbyists in washington, it has so many things in it that have nothing to do with the defense of our country, and it's why i've shown the political courage to vote against time and time again. americans want to make sure, obviously, that our military has the resources that has. but as you just mentioned, we just, gave in the form of the ndaa, 45 billion dollars more than the president even requested. and we all know that the president will request more than he already needs, so that he has some extra and flexibility to do with it as we will, to protect our borders, and to defend our nation i can't see threats both foreign and domestic. but what we see here is the fact that special interests have a chokehold over the united states congress. and we have to start showing the political courage to get away from that. >> congressman, before we go, i want to discuss your time in congress. you talk about political
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courage, unfortunately a time as a congressman is coming up, i think possibly because of, political courage and the way you decided to run your race, and where you decided to run it, but let me ask you what is your proudest moment of your time in office, what do you hope to do next? >> i appreciate that opportunity, obviously redistricting has been a nightmare in new york in particular, and it cost us the house which has been to the detriment of our democracy. i've done a lot of things as a freshman member of congress, one of the things i'm most proud of is having bridge divides but caucus of the time, to pass the largest investment in our nation's history, in generations. and then of course, i'm also proud to have helped -- which is going to cap the price of prescriptions for seniors on medicare, and like my grandmother, which is one of the reasons i ran for congress in the first place, as well as investing climate, action and in a way this nation has never seen. i would say to keep doing the
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there is no doubt that the pause on payments an interest, which will have exceeded three years by next summer has provided significant benefits for borrowers, but even if biden's forgiveness is program is allowed to go forward, and that is big if, millions will still face financial hardship when that pause is lifted. the effects of student loan debt are the subject of the new msnbc documentary, lone wolf, switch premiers tonight right here on msnbc, after the show at ten p. m.. >> most of my salary is going but even with that after four years of, round i'm going to be in $50,000 more debt. >> when it gets to 35 million people, it's like maybe this is systemic. maybe is not just a couple of people who made bad decisions, maybe this is actually an orchestrated scam >> art let's bring in my sunday night panel. michelle, do you see any scenario in which the supreme court upholds president biden's
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forgiveness program? >> i would be stumped if they did. i say that, it is not on any kind of theory, or legal analysis, i just think that this is the supreme court that believes in the unitary executives when there are republicans in the white house, they believe in max coal versions of presidential authority when there are republicans in the white house and maximal restraint when there are democrats in the white house. i cannot imagine them allowing this to stand. >> alina, talk about the benefits of student loan forgiveness and what it means to be free of summer all of that burden. we heard that gentlemen talk about 45 million or so people who are impacted by student, loans and then say, that is a systemic problem, dare i say, a scam? >> it is a systemic problem and, i was heartened to see --
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in the documentary that you guys are going to be showing later this evening, because he would be the person to tell you that the impact that that student debt has on communities of color, particularly african americans, which are the largest percentage of student loan borrowers for a higher education. so, when it comes to student debt, it ends up being this relief becomes not just a financial cushion, or play money, a few thousand dollars here or there, but the cancellation of student debt and even some offerings, at $10,000 or $20,000 to help students, and up being an investment in economic mobility. it ends up being an investment in generational wealth. over 50% of african americans who have higher education, student loans, are greater than their net worth. and so providing that relief where actually ensuring that we
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are reducing the racial wealth gap and helping to improve economic mobility for students of color. >> michelle, i guess not in a legal sense, but that aside for, moment but in a political sense. we know political -- politicians make decisions for political interest sometime. what is the political argument for the democrats and the biden administration specifically? >> look, in the simplest argument is that it is what biden promised on the campaign trail, and i think we saw it in the midterms the importance of young people turning out to vote, and young people are not going to turn out to vote if they do not believe that politicians are keeping their promises to them if. they do not believe that politicians can make there lives better, and kind of address the most crushing material at emergencies in their lives. >> elaina, is there a way of the supreme court suit chooses down, there is another way to
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work student loan forgiveness? >> i think, the primary way of dealing with the issue of college debt, is one of affordability, so i think what we have is in tandem, the biden administration focusing both on student debt, and trying to find avenues, legislatively and working with college and university partners to make college more affordable for the average working family. >> all right, interim reminder, lone wolf air is next right after the show at ten, panel, please stick around, we have a little bit more to talk to you about. up next, the final days of the january six committee, what's the story before the fan panel finishes its work? don't go anywhere. good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver.
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today to discuss whether they make criminal referrals on any of its investigative targets. including donald trump. the panel is weighing whether anyone in the scope of this investigation violated criminal. law, and warrants urging the federal justice department filed charges. the public meeting is scheduled for december 21st, that's ten days for, now that the committee when they expected to vote on the release their final, reports and any associated referrals. my son didn't panel is back with me. michelle, do you think the justice department would bring charges against donald trump, or someone else for his alleged
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role in trying to overturn our elections in january the 6th? >> i think if the justice department does bring charges it will be based on its own investigation rather than these referrals. my understanding is that that is what members of congress expect as well. this is both a public statement, this is what you do in congress if you find clear and compelling evidence of criminality, and hopefully the justice department will act on some of the findings that the panel -- the panel is going to release most of the transcriptions, most of its interviews, there are hours an hours of video so they've assembled this formidable public record for investigators in the justice department and also in the states. >> elena, what message do you think would be sent if the committee did not issue criminal referrals? after all this work.
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>> that's complicated. agree with michelle, that the doj, but clearly through their counsel looking immediate connector on investigates, and follow the law. but i think there's real expressive value, in the committee actually making criminal referrals, and suggesting, to or sharing clearly with the american public, and with a historic record, that criminality took place, in their, eyes in their view, based on the evidence they were able to masse. so by not actually making a criminal referral, the argument could be made that they're leaving it to be a blind slate for the department of justice, so is nonpartisan, in on politic. however, i think based on all that they have done, the depth
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of the hearing, all of the evidence that they have amassed, they should come to a conclusion about criminality given the seriousness of this issue. >> michelle, let's switch to some developing news. the new york post is reporting that last night a new york young republicans gala at a new york young republican gala, marjorie taylor greene joked that if she and steve bannon had organized the january 6th attack, they would have won and they would have been armed. your reaction? >> are you sure it's a joke? we look, i think there is no question that the trump wing of the republican party, there is no question for some time that they are pro insurrection. we know that trump recently did a fund-raiser for people who stormed the capitol. he has talked about pardoning them. it went from, and this often
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happens with republicans, from we did not do it. conservatives didn't do it, it was antifa. to, we did it, and it was a good thing. . so, that is kind of -- even if she laughed, i think that they are dead serious. you hear again and again from republicans about the need to take up arms about the current government being illegitimate, and so marjorie taylor greene is just being more blunt about it the most of them. >> elena, your reaction to marjorie taylor greene's comments. >> it is unconscionable. but she, all of her remarks have been so unconscionable, it has struck at the consciousness of the country. there is no way that she has any, --
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in the seat. the republican party refuses to denounce heard, to say that she has no place in their party and has not kicked her out. so the more that she is able to have this type of brazenly, and i democratic, racially discriminatory, antisemitic, all of these elements of her platform, the more she normalizes that type of communication and that type of action and that that is a acceptable way of leading. that is my general reaction. she is a bore. and >> michelle goldberg, elena beverley. greatly appreciate your insights throughout the hour. after the break i will be joined by photographer peter sousa, stick around. sousa, stick around. t normal. ♪ ♪
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the bubble at the white house? arguably one of the smallest bubbles on the planet. former chief white house photographer, pete souza, knows better than just about anyone. he spent more than 25,000 hours inside the white house, serving under two presidents, barack obama and ronald reagan. in his most recent book the west wing and beyond, what i saw inside the presidency, he provides a rare look at what really goes on at the halls of power. luckily for us, pete souza joins me live now. pete, it is great to have you with us. so, this book has a different feel than your last one. the focus is on the other staff who make the white house run. names that we, perhaps, might not know rather than the president himself, right? >> yeah, that is right. this book focuses on people who helped make the presidency work, and it is not just the point he's, there is the
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groundskeepers, the butlers, the sheriff's, the people who work at the white house no matter who the president is. >> why did you decide to focus on them or make them the subject of this book? >> you know, this was really micro void project. i was looking through my pictures and realized i spent a lot of time photographing things away from the main action it was a conscious decision, i never thought i would do a book, but when i started looking for my photographs, i saw that, maybe i have something here. i think there is a fascination with, not just the west wing, but air force one, the motorcade, the helicopters, and i thought it would make an interesting book for people to take a peek behind the curtain to show them what i saw. >> now, and it's certainly a fascinating book, the machine of how the white house works is incredible. some of my favorite photographs are really the lighter moments inside the obama white house, the basketball games, the dogs.
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was that atmosphere, from your experience, unique to the obama administration? or, did you see similar experiences from the two administrations. you also covered the reagan administration. >> yeah, certainly i saw lighter moments in the reagan administration. i think the reagan administration was a little bit more formal than the obama administration. and look, you have to laugh every once in a while, we have to have some fun. because, there's a lot of stressful hours the take place within the white west wing. and every once in a while you have to have a little bit of fun. >> the book includes some images from serious and important moments as well, not just a fun ones, you mentioned. the situation room inside the oval, four key negotiations. talk about what it's like capture tense moments, while not taking up space. how do you reduce, yourself and
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reduce the camera, so the people around you are not, in one way, either performing for the camera, or mindful that you are there, and in some ways infringing upon what they want to talk about? >> i, mean i think a lot of it had to -- i was in every meeting. i was there every day. i became like, part of the presidency. i wouldn't say i was a fly on the wall, but i was pretty close to being a fly on the wall. and i think i just had a knack, for being able to keep myself really on intrusive, and almost just kind of blend in with what was taking place. >> so i just became part of the everyday aspect of the presidency, and so many ways. >> i want to ask you about this image in your book for the final day of the obama ministration, the staff are doing final chase of the oval office, before donald trump enters, can you tell us what you remember about that moment that they. --
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>> what i was doing was preparing to get a picture of president obama leaving the oval office for the last time, and i had this leadership set up to get a wide shot of him leaving that door. -- just before he walked into the oval office, there is a secret service agent in the doorway. his two personal aides were checking to make sure that we weren't leaving anything behind you know brian was opening that door, that cubbyhole door which is famous from the picture of jfk junior, climbing through it, if you remember that picture from i think 1962, and the pharaoh in the background as just checking the drawers to see, if, by any chance, any papers were left behind? >> it is incredible. it's like when you're checking out of a hotel room, and you
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want to make sure you didn't leave your iphone charger in the drawer next to the bed. >> that that's exactly what was going on. that's exactly what was going on. >> there is just one image in the book that really shows biden in full view. what was like to be around joe biden. what do you think it's like to be in his administration now filming it? do you think there are many stylistic differences, and then be difference in the tone of pictures? >> yeah, i think adam schultz, biden's photographers doing a great job. i've seen some of his work on the walls of the west wing. joe biden is one of the most empathetic and compassionate individuals right now. he's just a decent guy. obviously, his mannerisms are different from president obama, they are all slightly different. i think it would be really interesting too, maybe, i try to spend a couple of days with president biden, this next year, i love to do that just to see the differences. >> but, listen if there's anyone that has the connections, for pete, am sure you can make a few phone calls and make that
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happen. but, before we go, i do want to get your thoughts on something. naomi biden, the presidents granddaughter just got married at the white house. you, yourself got married at the white house. that is a very rare group of people. there's only been 19 total weddings there. what is it like to be part of such a rare group, in history of this building? >> well, obviously, it was a great honor the president obama insisted on officiating are wedding at the white house. very small and private ceremony in the rose garden, and i'm kind of thankful that naomi biden did get married, and in a ceremony on the south lawn. so people can ask her about her wedding from now on, instead of me, talking about my wedding. >> who took the pictures at your wedding at the white house?
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>> chuck kennedy who was one of the photographers that worked under, me and says the president was involved, he documented the wedding up. >> incredible. pete sousa, it's always a pleasure, the book is the wet swing and, beyond what i saw inside the presidency, absolutely remarkable, witness the history, pete souza, thank you as always, greatly appreciate, it will be right back. looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand elderberry. (brent) people love subaru just because it stands for much more than just a car.itussin. (vo) through the share the love event, subaru retailers have supported over seventeen hundred hometown charities. (phil) have i witnessed and seen the impact of what we do? you bet i have. (kathryn) we have worked with so many amazing causes and made a difference. (vo) by the end of this year, subaru and our retailers will have donated over two hundred and fifty million
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