hinted that season three will be set in asia, with a focus on death and eastern religion. i, for one, we'll desperately miss, our beloved tanya. we cannot wait to see, who is vacation we will be crashing next weekend. the legend, jennifer coolidge, takes us off the air name. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night, from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late, also you end of tomorrow thank you at home for having us here this hour, really happy to have you here. >> so this is january 17th last

year. on january 17th last year, just to get your head around what was going on in that date that was just three days before joe biden was gonna be inaugurated's new president the night states, inauguration day was january 20th, this is january 17th. 11 days before june or 17th was >> 11 days before january 17th january 6th was a late january 6th, a pro trump mob stormed into congress to try to prevent congress f certifying joe biden's election as the new president. so on january 17th last year's a week and a half since january 6th and it is three days until inauguration. and on that day january 17th, here's a text message that was sent to donald trump's white house chief of staff mark meadows. it says, quote, mark, and seeing what's happening so quickly and reading about the dominion lawsuits attempting to stop any meaningful investigation, we are at a point of no return and saving our republic, exclamation point, exclamation point. in all caps, our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge to president to do

so! so it's three days before joe biden's inauguration. white house chief of staff is getting this text message urging president trump to invoke martial law, spelled m a r s h a l l. misspelled as though the person who thought that -- a t. j. max law that could be invoked as well. what he means as martial law m a r t i a l, as in suspend of the constitution put the military in charge trouble by force. our last hope is invoking martial law for, please urge the president to do so. this is three days before the inauguration. call out the troops, use military force, use weapons of war against the american public in order to stop the inauguration of the new president and instead put trump in power.

this is a message not sent by the white house chief of staff, so the message sent to him. some bet you're thinking, you know, i'm sure the white house chief of staff gets all sorts of weird text messages from trump supporters. whoever sent this doesn't know how to spell martial law. how serious can this be? but this text message was not from some random who guessed the phone above the white house chief of staff. this text message was from a sitting member of the united states congress. republican congressman ralph norman of south carolina. on january 17th last year, three days before biden's a inauguration, congressman ralph norman was texting white house chief of staff to urge president trump to call out the u.s. military to use the military against civilians. in order to keep trump in power. congressman norman was a sitting member of congress when he sent that. he is still one now. ralph norman was just reelected

to south carolina's congress. he was reelected attitude to one margin. and marveling about the seditious radicalism of a member of congress, somebody wants to suspend the constitution and keep their guy in power by force using military force to do it, rory marveling it's a member of congress being that far out there. that's something that we'll get to do from time to time.

but right now knowing this is what ralph norman was advocating for to the white house. suspend the constitution, put troops in the streets, take power by force, knowing he was advocating that is one thing. knowing that he and his party are going back to congress as the new majority party there for next year, that feels like something different. because what are they gonna do what the real power when they really have it? but talk from congressman ralph norman to white house chief of staff mark meadows comes to us tonight from reporter hunter walker along with john kaczynski and eminem you jay at the news website talking points memo. they posted a series of articles tonight based on thousands of text messages they have obtained. thousands of text messages that they say were sent by and to white house chief of staff mark meadows. between election night, november 2020, and biden's inauguration day in january 2021. these are thousands of text messages that were turned over to the january 6th investigation in congress. and talking points about meadows of coming to them. and the reporting tonight based on this trove of texts that as unsettling as that message was from congressman ralph norman, he was far from the only sitting member of congress who is exchanging ties messages with mark meadows about what

could be done to keep trump in power despite the election results. 34 republican members of congress were reportedly texting abetted with mark meadows. and hunter walker and his colleagues have published many of those messages tonight. i should note that we have not reviewed the original text messages ourselves. we are just reviewing what has been reported by talking points memo. that said, we have reached out to both mark meadows and congressman ralph norman tonight. but thus far we have not heard back. i can tell you that when talking points memo reached congressman norman himself on cell phone this morning, when they reached him and asked about his text calling for martial law, congressman norment told them, quote, it's been two years the. and he asked them to send him a copy of the text message for him to really view. after tp and forwarded norman a copy of the message they said, quote, we did not receive any further response from the congressman. i should also note that some of the texts between mark meadows and members of congress has been reported and some of them have been released publicly by the january 6th investigation which is the entity that obtained them in the first

place. but seeing them all in one place at tpm tonight means something. particularly because republicans are about to take power in the house which means they're imminently about to shut down the work of the january 6th investigation. in addition to congressman ralph norman, south carolina, calling for martial law, calling for the u.s. military to install trump in power, even after january 6th happened, there is also republican congressman from tennessee telling white house chief of staff mark meadows that republican legislature should just overrule the votes in those states and proclaim trump the winner. congressman marc greene of tennessee told the white house chief of staff that should happen in various republican controlled states because he discussed a guest on newsmax saying it was an illegal possibility.

also a north carolina point congressman pushing the same strategy, congressman greg murphy of north carolina. the same strategy is green, -- right wing website in this case. also northern north carolina congressman suggesting to mark meadows, in this case was ted budd of north carolina, he suggested to white house chief of staff mark meadows that the voting machines had all been rigged by george soros. that congressman actually not only is going back to congress, he's going back to congress as a senator. because he just got promoted to a u.s. senator in last month's election enough carolina. ted budd. also right-wing favorite, congressman paul gosar of arizona. he sent the white house chief of staff a link to supposed evidence of election rigging. he got this supposed evidence that he sorted the citation to mark meadows in the white house, the block that he got the information was called some

swear word told me. a word that starts with b and rhymes with mitch some, blank, told me. that's the name of the block that he cited to the white house chief of staff to justify what whatever means were necessary to keep trump in power. some b told me. congressman jim jordan discussed in detail of how vice president pence could overturn the election and -- when he wasn't. jim jordan is expected to become chairman of the house judiciary committee next year. and in lots of cases there is no record of mark meadows ever replying to these messages. but in some cases he does. and there are also references that suggest he was communicating with many of these members of congress separately on encrypted messaging apps. those would be messages that as far as we know, the january 6th investigation has not yet obtained. caucus men scott perry of pennsylvania, he extends so many times with mark meadows full of baroque conspiracy -- cia director being in cahoots with the british government, the british government?

to steal the election from biden. why would the cia work with the brits? there was so much of that from republican scott perry, talking points memo has a whole separate article tonight dedicated just to scott perry's texts to inform the white house chief of staff. scott perry chaired the house freedom caucus which is a powerful group of far-right republicans which powers said to grow up next year under the republicans razor-thin house majority. it may also be the entity that determines who gets to be the next republican speaker of the house. we also reached out to congressman scott perry of pennsylvania for comment tonight but we have not yet heard back. many of the text messages have been reported before -- we now know, we see all these text messages together. but also these guys are gonna be in charge of the u.s. congress and in charge of the u.s. house in just a few weeks. which means among other things as i said that the january 6th

unearthed these text messages, that's gonna be shut down because of course if you were a republican who had been involved in the staff during the january 6th era, of course you would like to shut down that investigation. among other things that expected timeline means that the january 6th investigation has a very short window of time in which to finish their work and publish their findings to the public. the january 6th reportedly met last night to discuss whether they're going to make criminal referrals to the justice department and how many, and of whom. nbc news reports that the committee has yet to make a final decision on that. the committees also reviewing a draft of its final report which is expected to be released next week. next wednesday specifically, the 21st. merry christmas everybody. the final publication of the january 6th investigation report may involve a formal public presentation by the investigators which presumably

would happen sometime around the time the report is finalized and published which is expected wednesday, january 21st. we are waiting for details on that. but meanwhile, the prosecutions in court for january 6th related crimes and alleged crimes, those prosecutions are also entering a really crucial stage. not only for the defendants but crucial for the country in terms of accountability and getting the history right and the story straight and what happened and what crimes were committed on that day. we of course gods the dishes conspiracy convictions of two

leaders of the trump paramilitary groups, oath keepers. its founding member and another -- plotted fellows for january 6th for trying to keep trump in office. this was the seditious conspiracy conviction that's already happened though. there's two more seditious conspiracy trials on their way. today there were opening statements. in the next round of oath keepers prosecutions, this is yet another trial in seditious conspiracy charges for four more members of the oath keepers including some of whom -- some of those who are seen entering the capitol on january 6th in that unnerving military stack formation.

we've got another seditious conspiracy trial coming starting next week that will involve members of the proud boys. another pro trump right-wing paramilitary group. here's a thing to keep an eye on when it comes to charges when it comes to january 6th offenders. when you have those convictions of the oath keepers on seditious conspiracy, that the headline charge that gets all the most attention and for good reason. but when you have those seditious conspiracy convictions of to members of the oath keepers, you should know that those two members of the oath keepers and all the fellow defendants that were charged in that same trial, they were all also convicted of a different felony. obstructing an official proceeding. in other words, they were convicted of a felony charge for preventing congress, or trying to prevent congress, from doing it stopped that day. which was certifying the presidential election. and that charge, obstruction and official proceeding, that hasn't just been used against these organized paramilitary groups like the oath keepers. about 300 different defended's

from january 6th have been charged under that specific felony statute. obstruction of an official proceeding. that specific statute, obstruction of an official proceeding, it's also been conceived by many legal experts as one of the most likely felony charges that could be brought against donald trump himself if he were ever to be charged personally. in connection with january 6th attack. that's why it's worth memorizing that phrase. obstruction of an official proceeding. it's worth keeping an eye on that as a specific felony charge. which has been used hundreds of times and has been used to get hundreds of convictions thus far for the defendants. because in washington, d. c. federal appeals court today, three judges started considering whether that specific charge should essentially be nullified when it comes to january six. whether it shouldn't be allowed to use the charge against january 6th defendants. at a lower level, at the district court level in the federal court system in d. c., there is one trump appointed judge who has ruled that that felony charge, that obstruction of an official proceeding charge, can't be used against january six defendants. lots of other judges including judges in that same federal courts in that same d. c. district court have said it's fine to use that charge. and in fact have overseen trials in which it has been

used. and it has been used to secure convictions. but there is this trump judge who said it shouldn't be used. and when that trump appointed judge ruled that way, the justice department appealed. so today was the next highest level of court. it was a federal appeals court in the d. c. circuit court of appeals which heard oral arguments on whether or not that specific felony charge can essentially be obviated for january 6th defendants. and that could have very wide consequences for everybody all the way down the line, not only people who have been convicted of the charge but people who are facing charges on -- facing that felony charge. and potentially a consideration of whether or not a charge like that might be used against people who are at the very top of the alleged conspiracy. again, oral arguments on that

in appeals -- in the appeals court in washington, d. c. today. the appeals court judges can rule basically whenever they feel like it in terms of when they want to get the ruling. but a lot is hinging on the ruling. in terms of january 6th, it sort of crunch time right now on the legal front and also for the january 6th investigation in congress which, as we know, is in his final weeks. joining us now is congresswoman zoloft grand, democrat of california. she is a member of the jenners six investigation. congresswoman or lofgren, i appreciate you being. here >> happy to be here. >> first let me ask you, if i got any of that wrong, did i get that the wrong way around. either the new information that's been reported tonight about republicans texting with the white house, up to and after january 6th. or any of what i just reported about what's happening in court. >> not that i'm aware of. as we said before, we are going to be publishing all of the committee records and the interest in this shows that there will be a lot of interest i think when we release all our records and there's a lot there to sort through. >> in terms of all your records, that will be the transcripts presumably of all of the hundreds and hundreds of interviews that you conducted, it will also be the documentary evidence that you obtained as committee? >> yes. with this exception, the secret

service said it's like they lead to, us like 1 million documents. and most of it was not relevant and -- it's not a committee record, we don't own it, we were just allowed to sort through it. but the relevant pieces of information that we obtained from that we will of course make available. >> what should we expect next week in terms of the release of the report? we are expecting, and i think sort of as people in the news business are hoping for a public presentation of the findings of the committee to go along with the written report. is it fair for us to expect some version of that next week? >> i hope we can do that to be honest, we work through the weekend, we are editing and re-editing the report. it is not even done yet. we are working so hard on all of it. and it's crunch time for the

committee, not just the stuff but all of the members that are working on all of this. so we will get done and i am looking forward to having it being done. >> in terms of the decision-making that still needs to happen, have you and your colleagues come to a decision, whether or not or willing to talk about what that decision is tonight, but have you come to a decision about the question of criminal referrals, and if so, when will we, the public, find out what that decision is? >> we had a great discussion last night and we will have a little more sorting through it. as i've mentioned before, we have yet to have a vote in the committee. we just sort through and reach consensus. so i think we're reaching consensus on this element as well. and i believe this will be released -- the intent is we will see if we can get it done released along with the reports, the recommendations, and the like. . >> as we get close to the end of the investigation, are there

any frustrations or regrets that you have about the investigation being shut down in terms of avenues that you weren't able to proceed down -- potential leads that you weren't able to follows simply because of constraint of time? well, we always knew we had this congress select committee. only alive for the congress. unless renewed. so we've always expected this would be the end of our efforts. i do wish that we had heard from some of the individuals that we subpoenaed who basically blew us off, including members of congress. and other officials. there is information they have that we would like to have. but i'm comforted in this, that the department of justice has tools that the committee does not have. to get information for a

variety of sources where we were stymied. although it's not going to be in our report because we couldn't get to the information that was relevant, i think there's a high likelihood that some of this information will become known to the public as the department of justice does its work. >> the justice department was vocal in wanting records from the committee sooner than the committee was willing to hand them over. they wanted full transcripts from some of the interviews that the committee, your investigators, were able to conduct. have those points of conflict where the justice wanted no more from you then you are willing to give them, have those been resolved or have the justice department essentially been treated as though there were member of the public and it will get everything at the same time that we all get it? >> we have provided some information to them in advance

of our report, not all of it. the point is, we are not an arm of the department of justice, we're the legislative branch. there are not investigators anymore than they are investigators for congress. we're support what they are doing, we are providing some information now. they're going to get everything of course when we publish our committee records. i think we're in a good spot. it looks like obviously they don't report to us but it does look like the special council's kind of picked up the pace here in some of these investigations. >> congresswoman zo lofgren, democratic member from california, member of the january 6th committee, who as she explains is very very busy as the other committees members. thank you for being here with us tonight. good to see you. >> thank you. >> we have a lot more coming up tonight, stay with us. tonight, stay with us.

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the midterm elections. notre dame has ten to do its u.s. senate runoff, california has had the multiple weeks it apparently always takes them now to get them counted. we've got through to the end of the midterm elections now. we can finally bottom line it. the bottom line is, and this year's midterm elections, republicans did terribly. they had a historically terrible showing. and i mean that in a technical sense. historically speaking, and the

first election after a new president has moved into the white house, that presidents party gets select in the midterm elections. and don't ask me why. it's what american voters like to do. they like a candidate in a party enough to put them in the white house, and the media lee, next time they get, two years later, they change the preference to the other party for controlling congress. i don't know why it goes this way, but it always goes this way. if you look historically, since world war ii, the party that is not the presidents party has picked up an average of 26 seats in the house in the midterm elections. the average since world war ii is 26 seats. and recently, it's been even worse. and the last one of these, and president trump's midterm, democrats picked up 40 seats. and president obama's first midterm, republicans picked up 63 seats. and that historical data is

presumably by republicans, ahead of these midterms, there were crowing about the fact that they were gonna pick up, you know, 30, 40, 50, 60, maybe even more seats than that. well, now the results are in. now, we know, turns out the republicans got nine seats. nine total seats. they didn't even hit double digits. that is a historic wipe. and the other side, the democrats gained a seat in the senate, to add insult to injury. but the republicans are also expecting to do well up and down the ticket. they're expecting to do great and governors races, they're expected to do great instate legislatures. they thought they would flip state legislatures from russia -- democrat to republican. they didn't do that anywhere in the country. this turned out to be the first midterm since the 1930s but the opposition party didn't flip a single state house or state senate. and in fact, the democrats for the party that flipped for

state legislative chambers. both houses of michigan, the house in pennsylvania, and the senate in minnesota. it just went against the republicans all over the country and all kinds of races. look at wisconsin, and kansas. and both those states, republicans had control of the state legislature. they were a total lock to state and control of the state legislature. but on top of, that there are really confident that they were gonna got rid of the democratic governors in both of those states, and both kansas and wisconsin. thereby, they would get full republican control of both those states. republicans fully expected that at the end of the day, by this point right now, they would have not only the governor's office, but th turns that, the republican candidates for governor both lost. to democrats. so, the republicans were not able to get full control of those states, even though they fully expected to.

it was actually the democrats in this election who got full control, who got the governor and both houses of the state legislature in four states, where they didn't have it before. four states you can remember with this easy mnemonic device. them. it's four states let start with am. maryland, minnesota, michigan, massachusetts. and all four states, the democrats previously didn't control the -- this is an election where historically speaking, the democratic party should've been wiped out. instead, they made up all that ground. the washington post actually crunched the numbers in terms of what -- which parties in control of which states, and they found that the results of this election, which was historically horrible for republicans, and shockingly good for democrats, they found that the overall top line results, thanks to how well things went for democrats in the states, is that for the

first time in more than a decade, more americans, next year, will live in states with full democratic control, that in states with full republican control. 140 million americans, as of next year, will live in blue blue blue states, where the whole legislature and the governor's office are controlled by the democrats, 140 million in blue states, as opposed to 131 million, in red states, where the republicans both control both those things. more americans will live in blue states, than red states, in terms of which party has total control. and that is profoundly important, that's not just important for mathematically keeping score between the parties, and for pointing and gasping at how poorly this republican party did in historic terms this year. it's important, in real life, right? it's important because so much policy that's relevant to peoples's lives is decided by who's in control of the state

level. everything from whether or not abortion is legal, thank you supreme court? to whether you can get health insurance, medicaid, how old teachers are paid, road repairs, voting rights, legal pot, everything in between. republicans did historically bad this year, and democrats did historically well. so more americans will live in democratic-controlled states next year, then a republican controlled states. and that is hugely consequential. and we now know as of today, that the surprising election results this year may have been shaped, in part, by a very large previously secret pro democracy investment in this year's election. a previously unknown investment of tens of millions of dollars. it was made without any publicity, without any public announcement, during the midterm elections. >> we did not know about it until today, but this is tens of millions of dollars that was

spent in 16 states, including all the states i just mentioned. and it was spent on local efforts to stop efforts to limit voting, and get people into the polls, tens of millions of dollars all spent in the states on pro democracy efforts, all of it unknown until today. who did it? and why and how? is that part of why these election results blew everyone's minds and changed history? the answer to that whodunnit is next, stay with us. lincoln's witnessed a good bit of history. even made some themselves. makes you wonder... what will they do for an encore? ♪♪

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morning, this is brand-new news to me, to you, and every one. totally new. headline, was inside the secret 32 million dollar effort to stop stop the steal. a pair of progressive organizations operating in

completely secrecy spearheaded a 32 million dollar campaign during the midterms, to push back against former president donald trump's stop the steal movement. it operated in states across, country election system faced unprecedented pressure from trump and his allies, who falsely said the 2020 election was stolen. altogether, the organization has funded 126 groups across 16 states, from battlegrounds like arizona and pennsylvania, to places like south carolina and new jersey. the group intentionally operated behind the scenes, throughout the midterm election cycle, not conducting media outreach, or even launching a public facing website. politico is the first to report on the group's existence, and their extensive funding of these scores of groups. david donnelly, a veteran progressive operative behind the group, said, quote, there's very clear that there was a mobilized constituency that cared about democracy this election cycle, but it was on the wrong side. he said the goal of his funny network was to bring people to the fight, not to bring more policy walks or lawyers, but to

bring more people to the fight. we decided it wasn't going to be enough just to find a bunch of election protection efforts, or to fund a bunch of candidates to run against election deniers, he said we needed to fund organization infrastructure, to bring more heft to the battles on democracy. >> more heft, tens of million dollars of more heft. >> joining us now is david donnelly, operative behind the pro democracy center and pro democracy campaign, which i have to check against my notes, because these are organizations i had never heard of before today, mr. donnelly, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having, me rachel. . can you put a little bit of meat on the bones, for what exactly you funded? >> first of all, i think there

are scores of people who helped deliver these results. american stood up for democracy, and against those that would take us in the wrong direction. the kind of work that our partners did, and frankly i think -- whole lot of credit belongs to the hundred and 26 groups that we supported, the kind of work they did spend the spectrum from voter registration bribes, to turning out votes all across the country. they advocated with election clerks to make sure that there were longer hours to cast ballots. they encourage people to reach out to neighbors, and to expand the voting roles, and they worked ballot questions. we worked on other kinds of policy fights. >> there are two things that seem notable about this effort,

and the way we're looking at it, when is this does not seem to have been a, let's create a big new national organization that is going to train operatives, essentially, and then dispatch into the states, which i think is a lot of what we sort of imagine i picked well-funded tens of million dollars effort to be like. this is very much supporting existing organizations -- and states and communities. i would like to ask about a lot of the strategy. the other reason i'm talking to tonight, we didn't know about this until after the election was over. why was this such a low profile effort? why where there are no public announcements about this? miami only finding about that now? >> we simply didn't believe that we should promote work before we get it. we are under the impression that we should actually go prove yourself in the world, before you claim any credit for the work you've done, and we thought that our organizational

partners in the states were the ones going hard work, and they're the ones we should be talking about. many of them are great press coverage is about all the work they did, to engage in black and brown communities. and we think that's a more important story to tell than the work that we did. -- we didn't set up a whole lot of organizations because they're great organizations working our over the country. we need more research is -- resource has. i did a deep dive in the states, and the summer of 21, to hear from leaders of local organizations, and statewide organizations. and there is an appetite to work on democracy, over the long term, but there is also a fear that unless they got to work urgently, to tackle and to beat back the attacks against their ability to cast ballots, then we're not gonna even have a long term to fight for. so we set out to help support

them in the near term, but also to lay the groundwork for these organizations that'll work in black and brown communities, and among young people, to have a stronger leadership role in the question of democracy overtime. >> because you decided to sort of show you, working on top of your work, to have this be a very low profile, even secretive effort during to campaign, why is that we know about it now? why go public now, with the names of your groups, pro democracy -- why now have politico and the new york times described the work that you did now that the election is done? >> we think it's an important story to tell about what the state partners did all over the country, a grassroots groups that engage the community, there are a cast of thousands. thousands of people that helped avert us from the democratic collapse. it's litigators, it's those

that did election protection warwick, those that engaged in all sorts of other kinds of ways to make change, and pull us back. but we believe it's really critical to ground the where in the front lines of those that are being attacked, and those that have their rights being taken away. so we thought it was critical to make sure that their stories were told, and were part of the election roundup that we are now engaged in, understanding that yes, indeed, we have a country that is more pro democracy, slightly more. we held the line. i think we have more work to do. but we think it's critical that these groups are out and engaged and communities. there's a lot of flights yet to come. this is the wisconsin supreme court race an apron, there's a potential of a policy in minnesota because of what you described earlier and your segment, rachel, the flip of the state senate there.

that will now allow for there to be an opportunity for a policy in minnesota. this other efforts all over the country that are really critical. these groups need the resources that do that work. >> david donnelly of the pro democracy center and pro democracy campaign, thank you for helping us understand tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. much more news ahead. stay with us. stay with us supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. get refunds.com powered by innovation refunds can help your business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too. qualify your business for a big refund in eight minutes.

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