tv Jose Diaz- Balart Reports MSNBC December 13, 2022 7:00am-8:00am PST
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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. we're keeping a close eye on the white house, where at any moment president biden is expected to speak on an inflation report that came out this morning that was better than expected. we're going to bring you his remarks as soon as they begin. the government of did report today that the consumer price index, which measures the changes in prices for goods and services, rose .1% last month. economists predicted it would rise .3%. prices, however, are still 7.1% higher than they were last november. taking a look at wall street,
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look at the reaction. it's pretty strong. almost 600 points up. markets thrilled by the news. as it means the fed could ease up on interest rate hikes. with us now to take a closer look at this is white house sport mike memoli, business reporter brian chung and robin farzad host of business and culture program "full disclosure." what are we expecting to hear from the president this morning? >> you can see that the markets really like today's cpi number. white house officials are also very happy with what they see. you know that president biden said taming inflation is one of his top priorities. and this news today is certainly welcome in that direction. the president going to be touting the fact that the burden on american consumers is still at a heightened level, but it's easing. it's a sign that he will argue his economic plan is working.
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we remember that during the summer months when we thought inflation was going to be one of the major issues in this midterm election that hurt democrat can, obviously the election turned out differently, but the white house was slow to react to some of these more negative reports as they were coming out, explaining them away with a myriad of factors. put we're going to hear the president talk about ways he thinks his administration has gotten us to this point. a three-point plan for dealing with inflation. one, finding ways to lower the costs of everyday goods. letting the federal reserve do its job. it's hard to imagine given how hard it was to get that inflation reduction act, but number three, letting the federal reserve do its thing has been the hardest thuk for this white house to watch because of the independence of the federal reserve. there's been some concern that perhaps they have been too aggressive to rate raiz rates. one of the reasons markets are reacting so positively is their hopes that the federal reserve will roll back the pace of
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breast rate increases and the concerns at the white house, who has consistently maintained they don't believe in a recession is inevitable are going to be closely watching the reserve when acts later this week. >> what are the major take aways from the report to you? >> just to reiterate as you said at the top, inflation came this less than economists had expected. so when you take a look at the month over month figures, prices going growth big .1% between october and november. but again, over the year, it's 7.1% higher. when you look at that yearly figure, the pace of price increases was about 9% in the summer. so we saw that come down to 8% then to 7.7 of of the last report and now 7.1%, but we're very far away from where the federal reserve would like to see it, which is somewhere around 2%. it's encouraging that the numbers are going down, but we're still very far from where we need. when it comes to the things with
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inflation, rent is a big contributor to the high prices that we're seeing now. we're also seeing foods prices very persistent as well. on the encouraging side of things, we saw fuel oil and gasoline changes that were kind of encourage whg it comes to how expensive those are for american households. we also saw things like potatoes, computers decline. some broigt spots in the november report, which could point to further declines in the months to come. >> no doubt there's that positive trajectory of downwards from what you're sayings was plus 9%. certainly it's a good projection. i'm just looking at some of the things that brian was talking about. the price of eggs up 2.3%. fresh fruits and vegetables, up 1.8%. bread, up 2%. why is this -- with you see this, why?
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>> the interest rate hikes are a blunt instrument. it's not like the fed and jerome powell can go in there and tweak eggs we it's well above what we paid last week. the consumer out there is not paying attention to .1%. it's better than a .3% increase in the statistics. they are paying attention to the print at the gas pump and the grocery store. you go through these routines and you know what milk costs. you know what bread costs and chicken, fish, dairy, all these things you have been going to the grocery store forever. when you get these chunky double-digit price increases year over year, that's not being suspended by this pullback in core and non-core inflation, you don't care what the statistics are. moreover, this is a big cause between 7% headline inflation and the 2% target that the fed wants. it still means the fed is going to hike. maybe by half a point.
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it's probably boing to hike in february. and keep it at a certain level until it strangles out some of the demand and some of these pricing pressures. we have a lot of pain ahead of us. >> brian, the federal reserve is meeting today and tomorrow to discuss what to do about interest rates. what do you think they are going to be looking at? >> that earlier question about eggs, there was a bird flu earlier in the year that affected the supply of eggs. that underscores how difficult it is for the federal reserve to try to tackle inflation because there's so much noise in this data. there's nuance to specific price categories and reasons why they are going up. but the federal reserve held steady when they began their interest rate hike march earlier in the year saying we need to make costs more expensive to slow this economy. starting to see impacts because of the inflation numbers coming down. keep in mind, we're very far away where the federal reserve wants us to be, which is why
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they are going to continue to hike rates at a smaller amount so they don't hit the brakes too hard and engineer what they call the hard landing of that plane hitting the tarmac, but something that can resemble a situation where inflation comes down without leading to any spike in unemployment. >> captain sullenberger, fed mi something like this and bring it down nicely into the son. it's impossible to pull off. >> as difficult as that may be, going back to your point of what people feel at home when they do go to the market and when they go to fill the tank, the price of gasoline has been dropping kiptly. but then you have heating oil and so many of the costs we depend on for our everyday existence, i want to if you could clear up core and noncore,
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all these issues that for the average person don't mean much. what is it going to take for things to be noticeable in our household. >> i wonder if it's a recession. i wonder if it's a pullback. we talk about travel costs, used car prices, the thing that corrects these things is economic pain. you can't have the the pleasure without the pain. there's a lot of fiscal stimulus. we're still trying to mop up. and again they are bridging the divide between 2% and 7%, there's a lot of pain left to deflate that.
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>> thank you for being with us. we're following breaking news this morning. tornadoes reported in parts of north texas and oklahoma. just moments ago the airport issued a shrlt in place due to a tornado warning. in wayne, oklahoma, this new footage shows houses demolished, trees fallen and entire neighborhoods destroyed. schools there are closed today. 8 million people are under severe weather advisories in several states. in the plains and southeast, storms barrel east bringing blizzards, hail, damaging winds and tornadoes. maggie vespa is live from minneapolis. how are people there preparing? >> reporter: people are basically bracing for the worst of this storm right now. this is a season crop this is minneapolis. they are used to severe winter weather, but officials are
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pleading with people even if you're used to it to take this one seriously because of what you just showed. we have a mountain of salt and sand behind me. that's going to be dispersed on the roads here later on this morning ahead of the storm's arrival. we have video out of the great plains like you talked about. icy roads leading to a pileup of crashes already yesterday and today as this storm barrels east. compare that to utah, ice iy roads there leading to a horrific bus crash. 20 people on board that bus hospitalized. two of them in critical condition. this is the same storm that dumped four teet of snow in the sierra nevada mountains. and perhaps surprise, already reeking havoc on air travel. 1,300 flights delayed. when you look at yesterday's numbers, that's no surprise. we had close to 4,000 delays and a couple hundred cancellations. it seems like day two of that
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chaos. you talked about texas. that governor deploying emergency response resources. up in south dakota, that governor closing all government offices to keep people at home. official ace cross the country warning people to take this one seriously and quite possibly are prepare to hunker down. jose? >> maggie, thank you so much. this afternoon president biden will host a ceremony at the white house where he will sign the respect for marriage act into law. the measure codifies same sex and interracial marriages and require the government to recognize them across the country. it passed both the senate and house with bipartisan support. coming up, scientists are now making a major announcement on what's being called a nuclear fusion breakthrough. we'll explain how it could be a game changer when it comes to clean energy. but first, breaking just moments ago, the charges against
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the ftx collapse featuring testimony from the company's current ceo. with us now to talk about this is james sherman, founder of punch bowl news. it's good to see you. bankman-fried was arrested the night wildfire he was scheduled to testify. how have lawmakers reacted to this arrest? >> the interesting thing is that bankman-fried was involved with trying to right the rules for the road for the crypto business. he was active politically, both in donations and with lawmakers trying to cobble together regulation for crypto currency and other digital assets. this whole episode is really whiplash, i would say is the best way to it, for lawmakers. now they have to focus. now that the department of justice is involved and is prosecuting bankman-fried, they are going to focus on systemic issues in digital currecy.
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systemic issues in crypto currency and putting together some sort of regulatory framework because they believe, and with good reason, that the regulators have not been you have to snuff in keeping an eye on the industry. >> so talk to us, if you without, would, about the importance of bankman-fried in this whole new world. >> he was one of the founders of, obviously, one of the founders of ftx and took it upon himself to try to engage with lawmakers. there's two kind of paths for founders in the tech space. one is to say to the government, don't pay attention to he. i'm not going to get involved. i will probably be so successful, but you'll have to catch up many years later. he took the complete opposite. he was on capitol hill all the time. he had an army of lobbyists.
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he donated millions of dollars to candidates -- it's quite fascinating. he propped up at least one candidate in oregon who ended up losing because of his unrelateds interest or perhaps related, depending on how you look at it, on pandemics. he was looking to stop the next pandemic. so his washington game was quite sophisticated in that he shelled out money, he dealt with lawmakers on regulating the industry he did not take a hands-off approach, quite the opposite. >> fascinating. as this is happening, lawmakers are trying to make sure the government is funded past friday night. where do things stand with those efforts? >> this is a little bit murky, to be honest with you. the government runs out of money on friday night. the house is going to pass a one-week continuing resolution to fund the government until the 23rd of december. and in that time period, lawmakers are hoping to cobble together a large-scale spending
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package. i talked to all the key players yesterday. they feel they are closer than ever before to getting the top line number. that total government spending that would end in 2023. they are not there yet. once they get that number, they need five days to put the bill together and another five to get it through congress. we are probably looking at, if everything takes as long as it does, a post christmas funding of the government through the september 2023. >> so one week and then another one week cr? >> probably two one-week crs. if you're watching this and work on capitol hill, please make sure your ticket is refundable for the holiday season. because you could be screwed. >> jake sherman, it's always a pleasure. thank you for clearing things up. really appreciate it. overnight in his latest move since taking over twitter, elon musk dissolved twitter's trust and safety council.
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it was founded in 2016 to help address hate speech in child exploitation across the platform. an e-mail seen that it was moving into a new phase and that it was reevaluating how best to bring insights into its work. twitter said as part of the process, we have decided that the trust and safety council is not the best structure to do this. meanwhile, as dr. fauci prepares to step down from his roles from public service, musk called for fauci to be prosecuted in a tweet. also mocking gender pronouns. he responded to the attack in an interview with andrea mitchell. >> here you are after this storied career about to step down from this position as you go into new adventures and elon musk tweets out his pronouns are prosecute fauci.
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he's describing you as a criminal. how do you feel when someone with that big a mega phone labelhouse a criminal? >> to be honest with you, i don't pay attention to that. he has a big mega phone, but the twitter sphere has gone eserk. i'm not sure what he said, but i don't pay attention. i don't have a twuter account. i don't tweet and i don't listen to tweets.itter account. i don't tweet and i don't listen to tweets. >> you can catch the full interview today here on msnbc. we are keeping a very close watch on the white house where we expect president biden to speak any moment now on today's economy numbers, the inflation numbers were just released this morning.
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more than 1,000 migrants crossed the u.s. southern border into el paso, texas, on sunday. one of the largest recent single crossings. the group is mainly from nick rag away where the regime is cracking down on civil society. some of the migrants were kidnapped and extorted for money while in mexico. >> they say they are hungry and that after going through so many things including being kidnapped in mexico, they hope to now be in a better place because they are in the united states of
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america. we're going to be talking about this because there's new reporting coming out about the crisis at the border. the humanitarian crisis at the border. but i want to take you to the white house, where in just seconds president biden is expected to speak about the state of the economy, about inflation, the new numbers that came out this morning. they were far less the rate of of inflation increase than many had feared. certainly good news. so president biden is expected to speak on that inflation report in just moments. we're given the two-minute warning about two minutes ago, so that's the camera shot i'm always looking for at the white house. we expect to see the president any moment there to speak about the latest inflation reports. i want to bring in homeland security correspondent julia ainsley.
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as we await the president's arrival, i may have to interrupt you, but i want to go back to that issue we just started talking about, which is the humanitarian crisis at the border. julia, is this the new norm? thousand people plus cross just one night? >> yes, jose. in fact, i just spoke to a dhs official who told me this is not a surge. this is the new reality. and the sooner the biden administration and congress and republicans can all come together, democrats and republicans in congress can come together and address this surge and get the resources they need at the border, the better. right now, we understand the biden administration is considering new asylum policies that could really restrict the number of immigrants at the border. next week the title 42 covid-19 restrictions will be lifting. so the numbers at the border are
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expected to get even higher. as many as 10,000 a day. and what they are promising or thinking about at this point is to allow some new legal pathways for immigrants from nicaragua, cuba, who can apply in their home count,000,000,000,000 but similar to the policy, they think that will be a narrower pathway. a lot of advocates say you're slamming a door and cracking a window. this is part of the biden administration's approach as they consider what to do with these rising numbers and the fact that the numbers are likely to get much higher next week when absent of court order, the covid-19 restrictions will lift and many more migrants will be able to not only cross the border, but stay here and seek asylum. >> so it seems as though for now what the border policy has been at the united states is essentially mpp. it was taken back, but it's kind
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of 2.0. you have title 42, which is set to expire. but what is the contingency plan, and what is policy as far as the border? and for people to have the right to ask for asylum, they are coming from places like nicaragua, when is having huge political problems because of the regime there. cuba, venezuela, what is the policy? >> well, they are thinking about a number of things. . i'm told nothing has been set in stone. no one has signed off on this yet. they had over a half dozen meetings just over the weekend. both dhs and the white house where they have talked about what essentially is a page out of steven miller's book. it's a transit ban that would require asylum seekers to first try to claim asylum in the country. it could be a number of countries that immigration
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advocates here in the u.s. say don't have ab asylum system that's robust enough to give protections for people fleeing the very conflicts that you laid out. and so instead by the time they get here, the only way they would be eligible to claim asylum is if they were first denied asylum by one of those countries or could prove that they would qualify for protections under convention against tort cur. be able to show an officer they are likely to face torture, not just persecution, not just being ostracized as part of a social group, but torture. it's a higher bar. as we are now preparing to report at nbc, we are now reporting, these asylum officers are being trained, they have planning for this training right now to be able to do interviews at the border that would raise that bar. that's how farther this this process. because right now, the biden administration is looking at a number of options to try to keep these numbers at the border from getting even higher and having more chaos.
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but there's likely to be a lot of backlash and only from the immigration community and possibly in court. this could be enjoined and stopped. it's a similar policy to one the trump administration started and this administration, the biden administration ended upon taking office. now they are going back to some of the very same policy, although they are hoping up some more narrow pathways for people to apply legally in their home countries loop likely to face a lot of backlash. >> julia, i want to continue our conversation, but i'm just going to go right now to the white house. let's take a look at that shot. there's the president. >> i would argue for the year ahead we learned last month the inflation rate came down more than experts expected. in a world where inflation is rising in double digits, inflation is coming down in america. in fact, this new report is the
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fifth month in a row where annual inflation has fallen in the united states. inflation outside of food and energy, a key measure of that, also fell. prices are still too high. but things are getting better. they are headed in the right direction. most americans can see the progress driving down the street, finding relief at the pump as gas prices would fall. gas prices are now lower than a year ago and half the gas stations selling gas at $3.09 or less. the most common price for gas stations across the country is $2.99. the decline in gas price is giving consumers a break. they need help keeping our economy going. a two-car family are saving hundreds of dollars a month. it's a big deal. today's report contains another piece of good news. food inflation has slowed providing relief for families at the grocery store. this is welcome nudes for families across the country.
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as they get ready for the holiday celebrations. it's also important that we put today's news in broader context. when i took office, we inherited a nation with a pandemic raging and an economy that was reeling. we acted quickly and boldly to vaccinate the country and put in place a new economic strategy. a strategy to build on an economy based on from the bottom up and the middle out. now 21 months later, we can see how our economic plan is working. we added every single month of my presidency, we have added jobs. a total of 10 million new jobs. 750,000 of them are manufacturing jobs. you have heard me say it before, where is it written an america can't lead the world in manufacturing? by the way, remember i talked at length about the need to continue to invest in research and development.
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look what's going on from the department of energy and the nuclear front. there's a lot of good news on the horizon. the unemployment rate is down 6.4%. when i was sworn in. it's now 3.7%, near a 50-year low. we have done all of this while lowering the federal deficit in the two years we have been in office. let me say that again. $1.7 trillion we have lowered the federal debt. no administration has ever cut that much. now inflation is coming down as well. price of things like televisions and toys are going down. that's good news for the holiday season. used car rices fell for the fifth month in a row. that savings is critical to so many families and gives them a little bit of breathing room for the holiday season. and all of this means for the last several months, wages have gone up more than prices have
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gone up. wages have gone up more than prices have gone up. i want to be clear. it's going to take time to get inflation back to normal levels. as we make the transition to a more stable and steady growth. we can see set pacs along the way as well. we shouldn't take anything for granted. what is clear is the plan is working and we're just getting started. my goal is simple. get price increases under control without choking off economic growth. bring inflation down while keeping our labor market resilient. build an economy from the bottom up and the middle out. an economy with good jobs, good wages and for the long run, not a boom or bust economy. because of my plan, we're begining to see historic investments that are leading companies to invest hundreds of billions of dollars to build semiconductor factories and other advanced manufacturing here in america.
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it's going to create tens of thousands of good-paying jobs. by the way, a significant number of these jobs are expected to be jobs that pay $125,000 a year. many don't require a college degree. so things are looking up. what's next? because of my plan, we're taking powerful action to lower prescription drug costs and health insurance premiums and energy bills. in just a few weeks starting in january, families will get a little more breathing room. they have been told for some time since we passed the legislation that we're going to be able to lower the price of drugs. let me give you one example. coming january 1, seniors with diabetes on medicare are going to pay no more than $35 a month for prescription of insulin. up to now, they have been pay ing $400 a month. that's a genuine savings for
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seniors. this matters to many families with loved ones who have diabetes and rely on insulin to survive. going from $400 to $35 a month. in january they won't have to choose between paying their insulin, and in many cases putting food on the table. it matters. it's real save togs people. and it's just about to kick in. the same is true from health care to clean energy. by taking action, we're making real progress in strengthening and stabilizing our economy, giving americans some breathing room in the process. look, i know it's been a rough few years for hard-working americans and for small businesses as well. for a lot of folks, things are still pretty rough. but there are bright spots all across america, where we're beginning to see the impact of our economic strategy. we're just getting started. i have said it before. i have never been more
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optimistic about america's future. today's news gives me even more reason. we're building a better america, an economy from the bottom up and the middle out. not the top down. when the poor have a shot, middle class do well, the wealthy always do very well. we just have to keep going. i know we can get this done. god bless you all and may god protect your troops. i'm going to be seeing you all a little later this afternoon. i'm not taking any questions right now. thank you very much. >> hope by the end of next year, i can't make that prediction. >> do you plan to veto over the requirement? >> president biden at the comments at the white house live
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on msnbc. i want to go back to white house correspondent mike memoli. the president displaying optimism. also he has a busy day today. >> that's right. as you listen to the president's comments on the economy there, i think about two words. balance and context. the president really trying to tout what he sees as good trend lines in taming inflation alongside other good indicators, but also balancing that out with what he understands is still a tough time for many americans with prices still on the rise. he's also trying to put that in context saying that the inflation here in the united states is actually far below what we're seeing in some other world countries as the white house continues to try to stress that some of these pressures on prices here are global trends. but he also puts this in context. as i think about what this president is heading in the next month, potentially announcing a reelection campaign, you heard him talk about what the economy was like at when he inherited it as president a year and a half ago and what he sees now building a better america, which is something of a campaign
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slogan. he talked about a busy day for the president. he referred to an event this afternoon where he's going to sign into law the respect for marriage act. this is a follow-up to what we saw in the dobbs decision in which many are concerned that other rights, not just abortion right, but same-sex marriage rights are under attack. this measure attempts to continue to offer some protections to same-sex marriage. the president is going to refer to comments he made as vice president ten years ago, in which he got ahead of the president he served under in expressing his support for marriage equality. something that was not in the mainstream in the way it is now. the president is going to be using that moment to talk about the long strides we have seen in marriage equality and same-sex marriage rights and the other challenges that remain ahead for lgbtq equality. >> mike memoli, thank you so much. moments ago, the energy secretary announced a major
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scientific breakthrough that could pave the way for clean energy in the future. for the first time, researchers at the lawrence liver more lab have been able to produce a fusion reaction that created more energy than it took to make it. this announcement is seen as a breakthrough because this technology replicates the way the sun produces energy without long-lived radioactive waste or fossil fuel emissions. secretary granholm addressed the historic nature of the achievement. >> it's the first time it has ever been done in a laboratory. anywhere in the world. simply put, this is one of the most impressive scientific feats of the 21st century. >> joining us now is hakeem lasay, a professor at george mason university, as well as the author of "a kwun item life."
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professor, it's great seeing you. can you explain to us exactly what this development is? >> this is sort of the holy grail of energy research. albert einstein was the first person to realize that what we call mass may not exist. it could be confined energy. we now know that's true. the proton, 99% of what we call mass is energy. so we know now that if we can get that energy out, we have an abundant source of energy that will blow away anything on earth. there's more energy in a cup of water than there is in something like a million pounds of coal. i don't have the numbers exact, but it's extreme like that. so this is the first breakthrough that leads us to that potential outcome of unlimited, clean, cheap energy. >> so what needs to be done?
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i'm just kind of still digesting the whole there may not be any mass at all. that's my own issue. so what still needs to be done, professor? >> so once you have this breakthrough, now it's a matter of engineering to make the process more efficient. then the question goes how do i go from producing a abundant amounts of heat to producing electricity. there was a step in between. so usually a coal power plant, uranium nuclear plant that we don't think of, they use that heat to boil water and the water turns to turbine. the system that they have now is not efficient enough to generate electricity. it's not even designed to do that. but once you have this breakthrough, you know that the main barrier that you have to overcome, the main technological barrier has now been defeated it's now a matter of making it
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much more efficient and also extracting that energy to create electricity with it. >> so where is the energy extracted from? >> exactly. so here's -- they take thees isotopes of hydrogen. they get them very close to each other by a very complicated process of taking lasers that hit a metal canister around it. that metal canister then produces kpras that bombard a fuel pellet and that causes stuff to go outward at the surface of the pelt and because of every action there's a reaction, the center implodes imwardly. you're forcing protons to stick together, using the strong force. so if you take two protons separately, and then you combine them, the thing that you have when you combine it weighs less
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than what you had before. where did that extra mass go? it was converted into energy. and what that equation tells you is that for every unit of mass that you convert to energy, you get three times units of energy out. so that's a lot of energy. wasn't unit of mass is a energy. so this is similar to ha what "star trek" uses. so this truly is the holy grail of extracting energy from matter. >> i've got to tell you this. it's fascinating. i could listen to you forever on this because i understood like 75% of your incredible description.
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but it made total sense. so i thank you so much because you're just dish don't know how you do it, but you do it. thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. i love it. >> like wise. thanks. new polling shows support for donald trump's 2024 run plummeting among republicans. so it's not trump, who? we'll talk to sunshine who is really well versed in this issue. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." watching diaz-balart reports. ough a divo. she had a lot of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end of the day, my mom raised three children, including myself. and so once the client knew that she was heard. we were able to help her move forward. your client won't care how much you know until they know how much you care. ever notice how stiff clothes your client won't care can feel rough on your skin?
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sinema measure liberates them. why can there not be any agreement on anything related to immigration reform? let's not talk about the border or the humanitarian crisis at the border, but on something like daca, why is it impossible to see movement on capitol hill? >> the leaderships of both parties for decades now, with the exception of sinema and tillis, they worked on the issue, but both parties have always preferred the politics of immigration over the solutions for immigration. democrats like to campaign accusing republicans of being anti-immigrant, and republicans campaign on accusing democrats of supporting open borders and promoting chaos we have seen sometimes on the southwest border. that's one of the reasons we remain stuck. >> true.
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but, carlos, there has been proposals like sinema and the tillis proposal, even though we see no writing on it, and there's no way you will have ten republicans do it, and no way the house under nancy pelosi has any future, and it's not because of democrats, but it's because republicans are not willing to support them. >> the big factor there, josé, is primary politics. republicans are fearful of being accused in their primaries on being soft on illegal immigration, of being for what some people call amnesty. there's just a lot of factors that have colluded to prevent the types of solutions the american people need. this case of the dreamers, i mean, there's no group that is more obvious in terms of deserving the opportunity to
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stay in this country. these are people that grew up here. they speak english better than a lot of people that are natural born, and we will see if they can get it done, and like anything with immigration, it will be an uphill battle. >> and trump's support is falling, and is this going to be permanent? >> at this point this is a clear trend. donald trump has faced loss after loss after loss. a lot of republicans are blaming him for the party's under performance in these mid-term elections, so i think that we can continue to expect to see this in the coming months, and as donald trump recedes, i think you will see a lot more republicans step forward and declare that they are going to run for the republican nomination in 2024, so we could end up seeing a large field
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which is not what people thought a few months ago. people thought it would be donald trump and the few republicans that dared to confront him, and now it doesn't look like that will be the case anymore. >> do you think there's any possibility that donald trump will recede? >> i don't think donald trump will withdrawal his candidacy, because i think his candidacy is part of his legal defense strategy. i think donald trump, one of the reasons he's decided to run, is because he thinks it will protect him from prosecution. he thinks, maybe, prosecutors will be more careful about how they approach his case, but certainly this could end up being an embarrassing exercise for donald trump if he continues falling in the polls, if he stays in and gets blown out in early states, i think it will be devastating for his brand. >> congressman, always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with us. that wraps up the hour for me. i am josé diaz-balart.
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