white house? >> we don't have any of those. >> you don't have any? okay. >> and if we had, i guarantee you my husband would be in somebody's jail by now. >> michelle obama making a joke referring to the idea of a former president going to jail, which is legally possible, as we keep an eye on this january 6th committee now meeting monday about criminal referrals and voting to release the january 6th report. i am writing a foreword to the official harper collins edition of the report, which if you're interested you can get right now, search melber jan 6 or go to melberbook.com. you can get my new 9,000-word breakdown on the coup conspiracy as well as the report when it comes out. it will also be available for free online if you want to get the government report without my foreword. which is your choice. that does it for "the beat." "the reidout" with joy reid is next.

tonight on "the reidout" -- >> then we also found unbeknownst to us, a subpoena that was sent to my cell phone carrier that was so broad in scope that it defies logic on how it could have any legislative intent. >> one year after mark meadows made those remarks, we're learning exactly what was in thousands of text messages he sent and received regarding trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. the reporter who reviewed those text messages joins me tonight with new reporting. also tonight, it's not the end of the fight, but it is an historic step forward. president biden signs the respect for marriage act, protecting the rights of same-sex and interracial couples. >> plus, after ten months in russian detention, what's next for wnba star brittney griner,

griner's agent joins me tonight. >> we begin tonight with news from the january 6th committee. we now know the final public meeting will be held next monday, december 19th. the committee will hold a vote to approve its report summarizing their findings about trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election and announce any criminal referrals to the department of justice. the final report will be released publicly two days later on wednesday, december 21st. which brings me to a republican house member from georgia, and no, i'm not talking about marjorie taylor greene who in the fall of 2020 was still a qanon facebook troll who had been elected in rural georgia but hadn't been sworn into congress yet. instead, i am talking about this guy. congressman rick allen. i know many of you may not know who he is. he's represented georgia's 12th congressional district since 2015. and according to talking points memo, he's one of the members of congress who worked most

aggressively behind the scenes to overturn donald trump's election defeat. according to more than two dozen text messages, tpm obtained between the congressman and former white house chief of staff mark meadows, his efforts included passing unproven youtube conspiracy videos from romania to the white house and pressuring georgia's secretary of state. it's all part of more than 2,000 text messages tpm obtained that meadows turned over to the january 6th committee at the end of last year. and while some of those text messages have already been revealed by various media outlets the new reporting describes the scope of the more than 450 messages shared between meadows and at least 34 members of congress as they plotted to overturn the election starting on election night and going through president joe biden's inauguration. the latest evidence showing how broad the effort was within the

elected membership of the republican party to find some pretext, anything at all, to change the 2020 election results. talking points memo described the texts as ripe with links to far right websites, questionable legal theories, violent rhetoric and advocacy for authoritarian power grabs. in one text sent a week after the 2020 election, by arizona republican andy biggs, who is running for house speaker in the next congress, biggs raised debunked claims that a substantial number of illegal immigrants cast ballots. in another text on december 26th, 2020, pennsylvania republican scott perry, who later sought a pardon, texts, we gotta get going, saying election denier jeffrey clark should be installed as attorney general, since any position below that will, quote, not have the authority to enforce what needs to be done. in one text, from the day before the attack on the capitol, ohio republican jim jordan, a leading

member of the house republican caucus, pushed the plan to have vice president mike pence refuse to certify biden's victory. and in another text just three days before biden's inauguration, south carolina republican ralph norman writes in part, our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so. now, we should point out nbc news has not independently confirmed the texts published by tpm. what does appear clear, however, is while the texts showed varying degrees of involvement by those members of congress, the communications provide an explanation of how republican members participated in undermining people's faith in democracy. and how many of them bought into the fantasy that trump had actually won. ultimately, riling up a crowd that became violent and attacked the capitol where they were also forced to run and hide. perhaps more concerning is that a number of these same

insurrectionist members of congress will find themselves elevated to positions of power when republicans retake control of the chamber in january. and joining me now is hunter walker, one of the investigative reporters for talking points memo who reviewed the texts to mark meadows. hunter, it is good to see you. let's go into this because let me read you one text. this is a text to mark meadows on january 5th, right before the insurrection. and this is from representative rick allen of georgia. mark, thought the president might want to tweet this. i will send you the text chain between me and raffensperger. bottom line, dominion machines down in many polling places in the county. this should give the president the ammo he needs to go after raffensperger. long lines and machines down, been there, done that. but it feels like rick allen's text, i have a bunch of them here, they speak to a kind of like conspiracy theory that he seems like he and others believed that god was involved,

or there was some sort of religious war going on, and that it involved everything from satellites out of italy to dominion, all conspiring to keep donald trump from being president again. did you get the sense from reviewing these text messages that these congress members believed it or they were saying it to keep trump in? >> getting at the million dollar question here. were these people just power hungry or were they true believers? and you know, i can't get in anyone else's head but i'll tell you the texts bring you pretty darn close. what we saw with rick allen is someone who was just, you know, buying into absolutely the wildest stuff online. i mean, in one case, he was talking to someone who he repeatedly claimed to meadows was a quote/unquote source, a high level official, someone in intelligence. and when he finally seemed to be presenting the information that he was gleaning from this allegedly high level contact, it was basically a youtube video

posted by a romanian anti-vaccine activist that was completely evidence-free. and then an article from 2005 about a data breach of driver's licenses. so you know, if he wasn't in on the joke, he was displaying comprehension issues and a basic lack of information literacy that's frankly alarming. what's also alarming is the ease with which foreign materials and questionable stuff online, we saw members of congress sharing stuff from infowars, from websites with white supremacist ties, profane names, how easily this stuff made it to the highest levels of the trump administration. the one from allen where he was talking about the debunked demeanian conspiracy made it to trump's twitter page the day before the attack on the capitol. we saw other instances where brian babbitt, a texas

congressman, which is another one of these marginal figures in the maga extended universe who nevertheless was extremely, you know, extremely aggressive in their correspondence with meadows, both in terms of the volume and the content. meadows was referring wild stuff back and sent him to the doj, so this was utterly deranged logic and conspiratorial stuff, that whether they believed it or not, was resulting in real official action by the former president and those closest to him. >> there were conspiracy theories about 100,000 ukrainians shipped into the united states to vote illegally. it really got really detailed. in the case of your new reporting, i want to let you talk about your new reporting because dick morris is invoked here and the focus seemed to be on either trying to get arizona or georgia to be the lead state in causing the election to be overturned. but they also seemed to believe in the legal theory that we have

heard about in the january 6th committee has put forward, that the states could simply send their own electors. talk about the newest reporting. >> yeah, so the first person in the meadows text log, and this was first reported in the breach, a book i co-wrote on the january 6th investigation with one of the former staffers on the committee. the first person to bring up january 6th was don jr. and he sent a message to mark meadows with some variation of that alternate elector strategy, and meadows said we're already working on that in several swing states. one thing you see when you look at the full text log, and you get a lot of that being revealed for the first time in talking points memo, there was a house team, as meadows described it, jim jordan seemed to be a clear leader on that front, ted cruz was identified as leading the senate objection, then they had contacts in multiple local states, including pennsylvania, georgia, and some cases local legislators, one state senator in georgia was texting meadows

directly. but all of this seemed to be focused on the idea they could just wipe out the will of the people and end in their own electors. they were, you know, coming up with various pretexts for that. they were lobbying for that. they were also directly pressuring the governors, mainly doug ducey in arizona, who andy biggs said he pressed at the request of trump. brian kemp in georgia, to certify the alternate slates. i think for me, one of the things that really sticks in my head after weeks and weeks of reviewing these messages is that in a couple key instances, including with vice president mike pence and those governors, if just a few more people had been willing to go along with these strategies we don't know what could have happened. >> let me bring in -- stay with me for a moment. i want to bring in congressman madeleine dean. when you go back and think about the fact that all of you were terrorized and terrified on january 6th, based in part on

conspiracies from youtube videos and other sources that your fellow members believed and were pushing and that mark meadows was entertaining, i just wonder what your reaction to that is, as a member of congress and as a former impeachment manager. >> here we are coming up on a second anniversary of january 6th. so i'm very pleased to be with you tonight, and thank you, hunter, for your continued reporting. two things that strike me is number one, i have the ability to speak with the current presidential administration. i have to admit to you, i can speak to the current administration at top levels. it would not be hundreds of emails about political things. it would be about policy. i hope that mostly people understand that legislators should be talking to the chief of staff about policy initiatives we're trying to move forward. the other frightening thing to me in reading this reporting, hunter, is how many of these

folks, of course, are still serving in congress. and as we the democrats slip into the narrowest of minorities and the republicans slip into the majority, imagine that these folks, 34 of whom were rabidly texting the chief of staff hundreds of emails going back and forth, that these folks are now slipping into the majority. i hope the american people realize the line that should have been drawn many, many years ago between the politics and the policy and of course these insane theories that were for one thing only, they were not to try to right an election that was wronged. they are try to hold power for one person. and of course, they are clinging to the power of that one person for their own power. that's it. >> and congresswoman, i mean, several of these people saw pardons. you had a number of these lawmakers that you're then going to be serving with, they said

they believed these conspiracy theories or not, some of them knew they were doing something wrong because they tried to get a pardon as a result of what they have done, and several of them are now going to be in real positions of power, and by the way, this is before marjorie greene was even a congressman. she hadn't been sworn in with a lot of this was happening. there won't be the opportunity for oversight, i'm assuming, once you all are in the minoerltd, and so i wonder what you make of the fact you're going to be serving with people in theory knew they committed potential crimes. >> well, i do hope that the department of justice continues to do its work. and i'm actually optimistic, believe it or not, because of the extraordinary work of the 1/6 committee, because of what will go forward as a result of that work and what doj and now the special counsel will be doing. and the fact that, let's face it, folks, republicans thought

there was going to be this red wave. there wasn't. i'll take a look at pennsylvania and take pride there in making sure that didn't happen. i know that this is going to be their modus oparandy to go after conspiracy theories and impeachments and biden family members. they're not going to be successful. i was walking home tonight, joy, and i thought about what was going on here. and i thought about what was going on in terms of this set of communications, this desperate set of communications that are shocking but not surprising. but notice what is evident, that the constitution of the united states, that their oath of office in every single one of these cases was tossed to the gutter. i kept looking as i walked down the pavement at the gutter and thought, they think nothing of this constitution. when they endeavored to seek power for a person who had simply lost an election. >> very quickly, before we go, hunter, some of the replies don't seem to be there.

do you have any reporting that perhaps at some point they went to signal or whatsapp or somewhere else and that's where some of the replies from mark meadows might be found? >> our series is ongoing, but yes, we know this is the tip of the iceberg, there were encrypted apps, missing communications. more reporting is coming including on the pardon front. >> very interesting. please come back, hunter walker, the more stuff you get, please bring it back here because we definitely want to hear more of your reporting. congressman madeleine dean, thank you. >> up next on "the reidout," the culmination of a decades-long fight. president biden signs historic legislation codifying same sex and interracial marriage. "the reidout" continues after this.

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the road to this moment has been long, but those who believed in equality and justice, you never gave up. many of you standing on the south lawn here. so many of you put your relationships on the line, your jobs on the line, your lives on the line to fight for the law i'm about to sign. for me and the entire nation, thank you, thank you, thank you. >> president biden today signed the respect for marriage act into law. an historic measure that will codify protections for same-sex and interracial marriages while repealing the 1996 defense of marriage act that defines

marriage as a union between a man and a woman. the bill received support from every democrat in both chambers of congress. but only 12 out of the 50 republican senators and 39 out of 208 republican house members voted in favor of the bill. it's also important to note that the only reason this legislation came about is because after the supreme court overturned roe this summer, justice clarence thomas blatantly threatened to ax other precedents including obergefell, that legalized gay marriage nationally. while this is a big win for equality, there are many that argue this doesn't go far november. it doesn't legalize a right to marry. if obergefell does det overturned, the law doesn't do anything to prevent states from making it illegal again. joining me are malcolm and andrew, nephew of republican

congressman vicky hartzler of missouri. both were at the white house today for that historic signing. thank you for being here. >> excited to do so. >> i'm going to start with you, malcolm. we have a great picture of you being there, because your husband didn't make it, but he made it. he didn't make it but he made it. there he is, basically in the photo. i know you have it with you. >> i brought this photo, and initially it was a joke. i said, you know, babe, i really wish you could make it, but as a professor, he's writing and editing. he said i need to write, but you bring me in that way. i can tell you, it was -- i have been at the white house for every major signing the president has done. this one felt so special to have that front row seat of history and to see this president who has been on the right side of this issue for a long time, and speaker pelosi, who is about to end her speakership, really

continuing what has been her life' mission as well, of getting this codifies into law, but you say it right. we still have work to do at the state level. we just, and i believe you talked about it in pennsylvania. we just took off the books homosexuality being a crime in pennsylvania in the last year. we're going to need to do the same thing getting rid of that language that's still right now in pennsylvania that says marriage between a man and woman. >> your husband is super handsome. he just needs to come and hang out. bring him back. andrew, i don't even know if you were born when the defense of marriage act was signed. >> what year? >> '96. >> i was not born. i was born in '98. >> the reality is for your whole life, the reality has been the defense of marriage act has been on the books. i read your story today. your aunt, let's play a bit of your aunt. this is how the world got to know you. your aunt said this on the house floor, regarding marriage equality in this bill.

>> i hope and pray that my colleagues will find the courage to join me in opposing this misguided and this danger bill. i yield back. >> and i can't imagine how that felt for you as a young gay man to hear your aunt do that, but you told us how you felt. you did a tiktok video that went very, very viral. so talk about how it felt to hear what she said versus how it felt today to be at that ceremony. >> yeah. when i first saw that, i was devastated. a part of me had thought that after i came out to my aunt, she had a minor change of heart. just because i noticed that she didn't vote on the initial whenever the respect for marriage act first came to congress in july, she abstained from voting, so i thought it was related. and then i wake up and i see this display on the house floor.

it was hurtful, but i wasn't surprised by it because she has a history of this negative rhetoric, and really these -- this type of rhetoric towards lgbtq people is harmful, and it has real life effects, like we saw at colorado and pulse, that when people hear this, they take it to heart and some people are extremists in this world, and they'll enact on that violence. but today, today was a really great day. it was emotional, to say the least. in front of where i was standing in the crowd, there was a married couple who had been married for 20-plus years and with them was their mother. and that was really cool to see, and looking around seeing all the families there. it's amazing that that was there. and also i was thinking about

how so many people in the united states who are lgbtq youth and they don't -- they don't have their families. they don't have people that whatever, support them in that capacity. and what the biden administration passed today with the respect for marriage act is great. and it's a step forward in the right direction. but ultimately, for red states like where i live in oklahoma, there's no state level protections. we solely rely on these federal protections. and what was done today was minimal in terms of there's still people being harmed and harmful policies that are causing pain and like negative mental health outcomes and depression. when you don't have your family to rely on, you rely on the federal government or the state government, because that's who's there to take care of you. when they also don't have your back, it's -- who do you turn to? >> i know you went through a lot

in terms of even dealing with conversion therapy and being at a religious university. it's difficult and depending on the support you get from your family and state. what does this materially change? because the thing is that there still isn't a right to marry in the united states. it depends on what state you live in. in your state, those rights aren't there. in your state, they're there, but there's always sort of tenuous. what does this change? >> i think -- i hope a part of what it changes, joy, is that people recognize the real power of activism and advocacy, the power of staying involved and as the speaker said today, of being a little bit impatient, about making sure we codify a series of other rights and protections people need. still in pennsylvania, we don't have non-discrimination protections. we have people today in pennsylvania who can lose their housing or be kicked out of public accommodations simply because of who they are. i think what changes today is not only getting rid of the

defense of marriage act at the federal level which is a huge victory and i think the senator deserves so much credit for helping to make this happen but a part of what it also does is set a real precedence that states can follow. it makes it easier for state legislaors like myself to go back and say we have this thing on the books that courts and the federal government says doesn't work so maybe we should take it off. we did the same thing before when we heard justice thomas talking about lawrence v. texas, we said in pennsylvania, we don't want to be a trigger law state like we saw with dobbs where states had these really egregious laws around abortion access on the books. as soon as the court decided, those things were enacted like that. so this should be a real clarion call for state legislators to go through their state laws with a comb and try to get out every negative statute that you can get out, but it is going to take that activism and the movement to deliver these type of

historic victories. >> a great day. sam smith performed. that was pretty cool. cyndi lauper was there from my generation. >> we know cyndi lauper, joy. >> i'm very happy for both of you guys. i'm excited for me, so my daughter can get married one day because of this law. i'm excited for both of you. love y'all. love it. it's exciting. >> pennsylvania state representative malcolm kenyatta and the great andrew hartzler. you're a veteran. you did good. >> he's a pro. >> so come back any time. >> still ahead, how do you reacclimate to life in the states after ten months in russian detention? texas barbecue, dr. pepper, and a christmas tree, of course. brittney griner's agent joins me next. ♪ today my friend you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver.

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to smile right now. thank you. >> brittney griner is finally on her way home. i got to know her incredible wife. we were together in the oval office, her wife and i. we heard brittney's voice on the phone when she was freed. we addressed the nation together. when we did that, brittney's wife said, quote, today my family is whole. >> biden with those ray-bans. joining me is the person instrumental in griner's transition home, brittney griner's agent, lindsay kagawa colas. let's talk about it. we know a little bit about britney's first couple days home. she got a haircut. she had cut her locs due to the low temperatures in prison so she shaped that up. she had a dr. pepper and san antonio barbecue. what else can you tell us about

her first days home? >> hey, joy. thanks for having me. i mean, i guess a lot. i want to leave a lot also for brittney to tell everybody about. look, when we saw her take those first steps onto american soil, it's actually hard to describe the feeling. it was joyous, and it was rewarding. and that sparkle was still there. the first hug, it's like, you're waiting ten months for that hug, and seeing her and cherelle embrace, it was the fulfillment of a promise we made, where we told cherelle, we're going to get her home. and we made that promise. and we did it, and we're so excited. so her days have been filled with what she wants to do. which is really important. and she's very, very appreciative of all the resources that the u.s. government has been able to

provide. their reintegration program is really robust, and she's taking her time to take advantage of those resources. have some barbecue, play a little basketball, and see her family. and catch up on a lot of lost time. >> yeah. i mean, the thing is that what brittney griner was known for before was being the first woman in the wnba to do two dunks in a game, for obviously her incredible skills on the court. but now, her name is synonymous with her trauma in a lot of ways. i think, you know, a lot of people are not expecting her to push herself to get back on the court. but those questions still are out there. there are a lot of her fans that are wondering when they'll see her back on the court. is that something that she's even thinking about right now? she's got so many options but one is to get sleep and rest, just as you said, hang out with her family and drink dr. pepper. >> absolutely. and have barbecue and sample all of the fare that san antonio has to offer. and also last night, when we

facetimed she was telling me about how she was walking around base and taking pictures with people. brittney is the daughter of a veteran. she's the daughter of a former law enforcement agent, and she loves america. and so i think that for everybody who has just gotten to know her, maybe through this trauma or through all of the divisive rhetoric, now they're paying attention. and they're going to get to know the woman that we know, and brittney griner is a really special person. who has been a pioneer almost by accident. you know, brittney griner has never asked to be famous. all she's ever done is be herself, and in doing that, she gives other people permission to be themselves too. and that is incredibly powerful. you could not find a better person to give a platform like this to, and authority thing she talked to me about last night and the night before that and the night before that was her commitment to getting other americans home. she's really passionate about making sure that the invisible

become visible. and she's always been that way. always been that way. and here she is again through this process, and this is now her community. and she's committed to getting paul whelan home. she's committed to getting the other americans home. and i think she's got a pretty good partner in the administration that they're showing they're willing to do really hard things, and she's there to be a partner in doing tat. >> and a great partner in cherelle. i don't think there could have been a fiercer advocate and a fiercer spouse that was out there fighting constantly making sure no one forgot that brittney was in captivity and fighting for her liberation. so they can enjoy themselves, hopefully they can make a second honeymoon event. listen, we would love to have some barbecue. >> vacation, too. what great timing to celebrate love and the example to everyone and the power in that. we're so proud of cherelle, so

thankful for her trust, and thankful to the whole team. it really took a huge, huge coalition of people, and thank you, joy, for keeping this visible and top of the news for us. thank you very much. >> it was an absolute honor. and listen, if y'all have not checked out the wnba, if this doesn't make you a fan, i don't know what to tell you because it's a fantastic league. lindsay kagawa colas, thank you for joining us. >> meanwhile, the legendary glorious steinem is here to mark the passing. this is some sad news but important news of one of the architects of the modern feminist movie. dorothy pittman hughes. we're back after this. over the last 100 years, lincoln's witnessed a good bit of history. even made some themselves. makes you wonder... what will they do for an encore? ♪♪

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about it and not allow the media to insult me or anybody else. and doing what i feel i need to do. i'm speaking about sexism and racism and i think that it needed. and especially where women are talking about being sisters and we really are getting together. i think we can't allow women to forget it, and i think that as a black woman, it has a real function in coming out with a white woman and saying these things. >> that was dorothy pitman hughes speaking about the power of having a black woman and a white woman, gloria steinem,

traveling the country together advocating for women's rights at a time when feminism was extremely white. hughes' family announced this weekend she had passed away at the age of 84. hughes, already a well established activist in the civil rights movement, met steinem when she wrote an article on hughes' child care center. they hit the road together with steinem crediting hughes with making her comfortable with public speaking. hughes' biagraphy noted that dorothy's style was to call out the racism she saw in the white women's movement. she frequently took to the stage to articulate the way in which white women's privilege oppressed black women, but also offered her friendship with gloria as proof that this obstacle could be overcome. in 1971, steinem and hughes posed for this iconic photo for esquire magazine, raising their arms in the black bower salute, which lovette credits for making gloria steinem mainstream, and

joining me is social justice activist gloria steinem. it's always a pleasure to talk with you, gloria. i want to let you talk and talk about ms. hughes and what she meant to you and what she meant to the movement. >> i -- it's really hard to know where to begin. i think personally, i never would have become a public speaker without her. i became a writer so i didn't have to talk. only dorothy gave me the courage to get out there and speak together. also, if i had gone by myself, i would not have had a group of folks in the audience who looked like the country, and neither would dorothy, so together, we were much more likely to have representative audiences. it's way more fun to do together, anyway. and all together, she changed my life, she changed the lives of everybody who listened to her. it's hard for me to realize

she's not here, but the only comfort is that i know she will always be here. >> you know, there's a publication called the 19th, and it has this asterisk on it because the suffrage movement was white women who didn't want black women to march with them, and unfortunately, that movement was not multiracial. what in your mind was the importance of making the feminist movement you were a key leader of multiracial? because it was possible for it to, you know, have been like it was in the early 20th century. >> and there were a lot of failures because of that. i mean, if we're talking about equal rights for the female half of the country, then we have to represent the female half of the country. i mean, it's nonsensical otherwise. and because of dorothy, and

because she inspired me to get out there in public, which i never otherwise would have done, we together, i guess, symbolized that. >> yeah. i want to talk to you a little bit since we have you, and this is another multiracial woman's movement that is now unfortunately thrust upon us. the end of roe v. wade, it is something that is going to hurt all women. but disproportionately, the woman who ran jackson women's health which was at the center of this case, i want to play a bit from yamiche alcindor's interview. >> i think it's going to be detrimental to the women of mississippi. it just like them to women ofce. color, especially the majority of what we are seeing here. i think it affects them more than any other race.

>> what do you make of where we find ourselves as multiracial women still facing the end of our liberty of our own bodies? >> it is unspeakable really. we are a unique democracy in the world and failing to understand that women have a right to control our own bodies, otherwise we're not living in a democracy, hello? it is clear that the big states like california and new york, women maintain this rate, but it's outrageous and sometimes dangerous for women and other states that don't have this right to have to travel in order to get it. we should be ashamed in the world. >> yeah, just to go back to, this is a fight that will wind up being a multi racial fight. this is what misuse biography says about the way black women were treated in the feminist movement before the two of you can together.

lovely argued and needed representation at the moment, especially gloria's place in the movement, contributed to the illusion of race as a founding experience of feminism. the sequential historical treatment allowed the contributions of foundational black feminists, such as dorothy, flo kennedy, shirley chisholm, dorothy height and others. for you, what did making that change -- was a enough of a change? did we do it enough? are we talking about feminism in a way that is multi enough and the stage? >> it is not enough, but it is so much more than it was done. it at least allows me to see the progress. we were in a period then in the moments movement, which was regarded as white women, and the civil rights movement was regarded as a black man. and black women were not emphasized in either case, even though they were equally present, more than equally

present within the leadership. think about russell parks, right? >> exactly, think about mrs. king, mrs. evers, you can go through all of the women who were so important trying to move our country forward, you're absolutely right. >> we're living in a patriarchy as well as a recess society, and patriarchy, that's what it means. you focus on men, and only the men count more. families are viewed as broken if they're not patriarchal, female headed, all of it. >> yeah, well, i want to thank you for coming here on the show so that we can give dorothy pittman hues her flowers. thank you so much, we always appreciate you, gloria stein. >> joy, thank you so much. thank you for honoring dorothy, thank you so much, thank you, thank you. >> thank you, all right, we will be right back. ll be right back even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything,

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