>> right now, on andrea mitchell reports. survivors of last month's horrific club q shooting in

colorado telling stories of status and survival at a house hearing where lawmakers are trying to spotlight the growing threat of violence against the lgbtq community. >> we are being slaughtered in the humanized, across this country. in communities you took oaths to protect. lgbtq issues are not political issues. they are not lifestyles. they are not beliefs, they are not choices. they are basic human rights. >> disgraced crypto entrepreneur sam bateman fried, in a jail cell in the bahamas fighting extradition back to the u.s.. prosecutors here prepared to throw the book at him with charges including conspiracy to defraud investors, wonders and the u.s. government. and i'll be vetted by veteran democratic congresswoman jackie spears, she wraps up decades of service and sacrifice. good day, everyone, i'm andrea

mitchell in washington. where congress is tackling the rise of violence and political vitriol against lgbtq americans. this morning, the survivors of the attacks on club q and the pulse nightclub in orlando are appearing before the house oversight committee. 54 americans were killed at both locations, simply for being themselves. >> the shooter entered our safe space and our home with the intention of killing as many people as possible. they used a military style weapon that exists away for the intention of killing other human beings, and began to hunt us down as if our lives meant nothing. to the politicians and activists who accused lgbtq people of grooming children and being abusers, shame on you. as leaders of our country, it is your obligation to represent all of us, not just the ones you happen to agree with. >> joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. political white house correspondent and playbook

coauthor eugene daniels. and the executive director of equality florida, nadine smith. welcome all. ali, first to you, some powerful testimony from survivors, from advocates this morning. bring us up to speed. what are they saying? what were the congressman saying? >> andrea, powerful testimony from survivors that reminds that this is not something that we just saw on the last few weeks at club q. but of course, this stretches back years, when you have survivors from the pulse nightclub shooting, from 2016, testifying. underscoring with the committee's goal is here, democrats on the committee. to show this as part of a rise and anti-lgbtq violence that is stemming in part from policies that we have seen and acted against that community, specifically from republicans across the country. now, republican lawmakers on this committee did not agree with that at all. they said this is part of a broader rise in crime across the country overall. but if you listen to what the survivors had to say here, you

were just hearing them recount trauma that comes from being one of the latest victims of americas mass shooting epidemic. but also the rise in violence against the community that they are a part of. listen to just one of those testimonies. >> to my horror, my sister, charlene, was bleeding out. she had been shot over five times. my heart rented as she tried to dial 9-1-1 with her good arm outstretched. i call that to her and i heard no response. i don't want to imagine what may happen had the shooter not been taken down that night. five wonderful people were still murdered, and may we never forget their names. ashley paugh, raymond green vance, daniel aston, derrick rump and kelly loving. we miss each of you. >> so, andrea, what you're hearing there again is the parallel problems of the gun violence epidemic and that the rise and crimes and hatred

against the lgbtq+ community. but i think it's also striking the backdrop of this hearing, comes against especially just a few days after the house passed their protections for same-sex couples in the event that the supreme court were to revisit their right that was given the same sex couples to marry. of course, joe biden, president biden signing that into into law yesterday. a moment of celebration for the gay community and many of the advocates i talk to. but also very quick reminder right after that this is still a community that is very much under attack. and still having to highlight the crisis that is going on there, in hearings like this. >> eugene, there were 12 times as many incidents against the lgbtq community this year alone, according to one estimate. glad also estimates an increase in protests against drag advances here. this is reaching a real crisis stage, correct? >> yeah, i think that's right. when you talk to advocates on

the ground, like i was, saying they celebrated yesterday with president biden on the south lawn with that bill. but at the exact same time you see this rise and not just actual physical violence but physical threats. people standing outside with guns, tactical gear at side of drag shows. calling queer people groomers and saying they're coming to get your kids and this kind of political speech that is anti lgbtq plus. that is where it becomes so scary. those are the places in which this is a free country, people can say whatever they want, but then those things they say have consequences. that is why you see things like what happened at club q. because you dehumanize people when you do those kinds of things. i think the concept that people are going out and grooming children, it is just also a

conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories work because they -- have a drag show or a drag queen reading to kids, that is something some people are uncomfortable with. but then advocates will, say don't bring your kid to a drag show but to a place where drag queen is reading. but it feels like an inflection point for this country, because well there have been what some advocates have described as low hanging fruit at this point, and acceptance of same-sex marriage. at least a tolerance of that, that we've kind of moved on from that conversation. but the derived of violence against specifically, especially black trans women in this country. those are the kinds of things that there is a big concern about, in addition to the actual shootings and all of that. which is have complicated, gun control, gun safety is already so complicated. and you add in how people feel about lgbtq+ folks and that makes it even that much harder for leaders to figure out what to do. >> the vitriol and the gun, culture it's all coming

together. nadine, let's talk about where we are as a country. does it make a difference that the president and the first lady had 1000 people on the south lawn celebrating the signing of the same-sex marriage protection law yesterday? does that help? does that change the climate at all? >> i think it helps in this way, it underscores that the majority of americans actually do support marriage equality for the lgbtq community. they actually support nondiscrimination policies. the challenge is this, it's not simply a question of whether the majority is with us. it is now the danger of this weaponized growing domestic terrorists. who wish to push back on that progress. i think everyone is noting the perfect symbolism of one day of celebration, of marriage equality, and aspects of that being codified by congress and signed into law by the

president. followed immediately by the grim reminder in reality that hate violence against us is increasing. as the rhetoric aimed at us by politicians who see it as a way to raise money and garner votes is also increasing. and we've got to deal with both realities. that, yes, we are making progress, the world i grew up and it's a lot different than the world my 11-year-old son grew up in. but that is actually where i think we're in the most precarious position. because most people do not agree with the extremists, the folks who are sending palm threats to hospitals that provide gender affirming care. the people who are picketing outside the in parks, bringing guns to pride events, shutting down drag queen reading hours so the parents and kids who are there for good time, to enjoy a day at the library, are now menaced by armed guards.

we are seeing that in florida in particular, because we are in many ways at the tip of the sphere. we have two people who want to be the republican nominee for president, and they are trying to outflank each other to the right. and they've done so by putting a target squarely on not just the lgbtq community overall, which they have. and every time you hear these old tropes that we used to hear back in the anita bryant days, defining lgbtq people as a threat to children, every time you hear that, remember that it was ron desantis who was trafficking in that as he began very clearly to position himself for the presidency. while pulse shocked the conscience of the nation, because it seemed to come out of nowhere, in so many ways what have been in colorado springs, at club q, felt like the inevitable pathway that these extremists have put the country on. and the most important thing right now is that everybody

understands that the rise in racist rhetoric, the rise in antisemitism, the anti-lgbtq attacks are all springing from the same while. and we have a responsibility to respond to it collectively and address that domestic terrorism at the heart of it. as a serious threat that it is. >> all really strong points. sally vitale, eugene daniels, nadine smith, thanks to all of you. we will have to see whether, congress especially with the republicans taking over the house, are going to do anything more. but certainly law enforcement and social media regulation is another issue. thanks to all of you, again. and the colossal collapse with the arrest of ftx's cofounder sam bankman-fried. what are we learning about what federal prosecutors are calling one of the biggest frauds in u.s. history? this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. they'll never know.

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cryptocurrency giant ftx is in jail to the bahamas after being charged with fraud by multiple prosecutors in new york. and what is being described as one of the biggest alleged frauds in u.s. history, a billion dollars of customers money reportedly missing. the indictment accuses sam bankman-fried of lying to investors, lenders and attempting to defraud the u.s. government. all that is the subject of a senate hearing today on the ftx collapse. investor kevin o'leary of the show shark tank is among the witnesses blasting the lack of congressional regulation over the crypto industry to prevent this kind of collapse. >> this nascent industry is cooling its heard, going or gone at the inexperienced or incompetent managers, weak business models and rogue, unregulated operators. hopefully these highly putt publicized events will put renewed focus on implementing domestic regulation that has

been stalled for years. >> joining me now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett hague, nbc investigative correspondent tom winter and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner. garrett and tom, let me have tom talk first about what is going to happen, jim, in terms of the extradition and the charges against bankman-fried. >> all, right internet, the current extradition agreement that is in play was signed in nassau, bahamas in 1990, went into effect in 1994. effectively, what it says, between the u.s. and between the bahamas, as long as somebody is charged with a crime that might be charged in the other, country in other words there is similar statues that are on the books. and that there are no other mitigating factors and it's not some sort of a political retribution, there's a couple other caveats. generally, extradition is approved. and so, based on my reading of that treaty, based on the law, it appears here that sam bankman-fried probably has a

very, very small chance of not being extradited to the united states. interestingly, there is a case several years back, andrea, where a teenager called the barefoot bandit stole a plane from the u.s., landed in the bahamas. the bohami in officials a were able to plead him down to a couple of minor counts, that had the effect of immediately enacting the extradition that is one possibility here. although i think it's probably pretty remote, when this hearing happens in february. pretty good chance he will be on a flight to new york city. >> and garrett, let's talk about congress. because one of the issues that has come up is that he was using these investors money to make massive political donations. and congress hasn't done anything to regulate crypto, right? are they likely to? >> well, they're trying, andrea. but congress is clearly on the back foot when it comes to this industry. when you break at the component parts of, this on the one, hand this particular incident seems to, be as pat toomey called

this morning, garden-variety fraud. the specific fraud at ftx was not so much about cryptocurrency, as much about bad business practices and essentially running a shell game. what congress has been trying to decide for years, now there is actually a bill that was brought up, a bipartisan bill, the senators lummis and gillibrand the summer to start regulating cryptocurrency. the congress can't even figure where they want to begin. do they want to treat it like a commodity? like pork futures or crude oil? or do they want to treat it like a security like stocks? it's very basic questions about how to regulate this industry. senator jon tester over the weekend on meet the press suggested banning outright. it is a very active debate. how likely deregulated? how do you keep this industry based in the united states and you can regulate it, so it's not just a casino? these are big, 30,000 foot level questions that have still yet to be answered by lawmakers. we have to get that stuff cleaned up before you can get really functional regulation in

place. and they're not close. >> in, fact it's a big difference if it's treated as a commodity, it's a much lighter agency regulating them than the fcc. if the wall street stock. glenn, what signals does the send to the crypto industry? what is the legal basis? one thing i saw our colleague barbara mcquade saying last night to stephanie ruhle is that you can't grade charges if you extradite. you can upgrade, charges you can't agree churches once he's extradited. they threw the book at him yesterday in new york because then they can adjust it later on once they get him home. they can add anything, is that basically the deal? >> yeah, andrea, we have different extradition treaties and agreements with different countries. i've been involved with hearings where we are trying to extradite folks back to the united states to stand trial on u.s. soil. and really, these are really different treaties.

but it looks like we have a fairly friendly treaty with the bahamas. and if i could follow up on one thing, that thomas, saying what we can expect now is the defendant, bankman-fried, we'll have to decide whether he wants to contest extradition or whether he wants to wave's extradition hearing. i will tell, you probably, 95% of the defendants where we seek to extradite back to the united states and awaiting their hearing. why is that? because an extradition hearing has nothing to do with the quantity or quality of the evidence of crime. has nothing to do with the strength of the evidence. it merely is and identity hearing. all the authorities will have to prove in the extradition hearing is that bankman-fried is indeed the person who has been indicted in the southern district of new york. and assuming they could prove that he will be extradited back. when you read through the indictment, it's only a charges. but the breadth and scope of

the criminal charges, the maximum punishment adds up to well over 100 years. not that that is a real realistic gauge, because the sentencing guidelines are usually much lower. he's indicted for defrauding customers in the united states. this seems to be quite an inclusive criminal indictment. >> and can he fight extradition? >> he can fight it. but it really will only boil down to his identity. is he indeed the same sand bankman-fried that stands indicted on u.s. soil? that is usually not a winning battle for somebody who is pending extradition. >> garrett, let me switch gears to you, because you have so many hats and you know everything going on on the hill. and your reporting last night on the tentative deal for and omnibus bill, spending bill. the temporary continuing

resolution to get us through the weekend, until the 23rd. but i heard you say today that house republicans were not part of that agreement. the three leaders were. can they block it? >> the house republicans can, but they could put some pressure on senate republicans to try to slow things down and gum up the works. as you know, andrea, in the senate anyone senator could object to a time agreement or drag out the process on a vote. what we're seeing now is this big, broad agreement on that 1.7 trillion dollar spending bill. they still have to hash out all the details, but that looks like it's going to be done. but it's not going to be done by the real deadline, which is this friday. rather, i should say the first deadline. congress is now trying to extend their own deadline to finish this bill next week. if senate republicans decide they really want to fight this and try to force continuing resolution, blocking current spending levels in the next year, when house republicans could get a better say, they could try to fight even that extension of the deadline to finish their homework. and make this really messy.

so, far it doesn't look like any of those insurgent republicans in the senate are willing to have that fight and potentially risk a shutdown. but there are still two days to go here before, friday and anything can happen. >> a christmas shutdown, how does that sound to their constituents? >> we've been there before. >> i know, indeed. thanks, garrett hague. vinegars crossed that won't have biden. tom winner, glenn kirschner, appreciate it. and an autopsy by the new york city medical examiner revealing that grant wall, the international sport journalist, died from a slowly growing aortic aneurysm well covering the world cup in qatar. this morning, his wife, a member of the presidential transition team's covid advisory board, talk to cbs about her husband's work and his passions. >> there is so much about the culture, the politics of sport of soccer, to him it was a way

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miliband, president and ceo of the international rescue committee. so good to see you, david. so, there are so many terrible places in the world. how do you reach this conclusion, the worst possible, you know, crises in the coming year? and how did they break this cycle? >> thanks, andrea, for having me on and for your interest in this vital issue. there's 340 million people around the world in humanitarian need. and more than 90% of them are in the 20 countries on the international rescue committee's watchlist. this is the unique data source, we use 67 sources of data plus the evidence from our 200 field sites around the world. there are three drivers of the watchlist. one is conflict, that's the main driver of humanitarian need. second, the climate crisis, which we see today as not our grandchildren's, problem today

's problem. and thirdly, the economic shock waves that have gone around the world, especially since the war in ukraine, the invasion of ukraine. food price inflation, just to give you one example, more than twice the level in these watchlist countries as it is in the western world. we're talking 30 to 40% food price rise. obviously, for people on the, edge it's an absolute disaster. especially at a time when the global aids system is so systematically underfunded. what do we do about? it we say three things are absolutely key. one is to break the cycle of crisis with the kind of announcements that were made yesterday by samantha power to support the fight against famine in east africa and somalia in particular. secondly, we say it's essential to protect civilians in conflict. many of your viewers might be surprised to know it's civilians who are more likely to die in conflict than soldiers, ukraine epitomizes that. and then thirdly, we have to recognize that there are global risks, not just climate risk, pandemic risk and the economic shocks as well.

it's not, simple it's not, easy but there's examples of how it can be done well. >> now, the u.s. africa leaders, the summit with 49 meters continuing today here in washington. they're focusing on trade, investment and health, agriculture, agribusiness. would this make a difference? do you think there is a reality to backup these pledges? >> i hope so. it's very, very important, this summit. because there's two stories of africa, one is of africa rising and that is trading, moore has a growing middle class of 350 million people. but the other side of the story is the significant number of african countries who are struggling. somalia is an obvious example, ethiopia with political and conflict problems as well as the drought. but i also want to mention countries like bali, like chad in the seashell, where malnutrition its rights. if you're in a stable state that isn't that, warrior 20 times less likely to be in

extreme poverty than in your and a fragile or conflict state. our aid system globally hasn't recognize this reality. we're saying that more than 50% of the global aid budget should be going to fragile and conflict states. at the moment, it's only about 25%. so, there's a mismatch. and until we recognize the problems that start and countries like somalia or ethiopia or mali or chad, they don't stay there in ethiopia and somalia and chad and molly. they moved, because people move. we're not going to get to grips with this problem. >> we've talked about the effects of the war in ukraine, obviously on the grain exports and on the inflation of food prices around the world. particularly in africa. but what about ukraine itself in the migration that it has caused, the refugee crisis? their head now the attacks on the power, grid where people don't have power, they don't have water, they don't have heat? are they moving up on the list? compared to africa, do they still have -- >> it's a great point, i'm glad

you raised it. those two things that are very important. first of, all the situation in ukraine is very tough, indeed. especially for elderly people. the temperature was minus five when i spoke to our team yesterday, we have teams across the country, especially in the east. we are able to get into kharkiv within 36 hours, military allowing civilians in there. the situations are very, very grave. obviously, if the attacks on the infrastructure become more successful from the russians, that is a danger of a refugee flow. but the second part of the reality is that the ukraine crisis is being well funded in humanitarian terms that well supported in europe, for those refugees, women and kids who have gone into europe and big ben rights and residency, rights to support. we shouldn't reduce the money being given to ukraine, but we should recognize that the kind of humanitarian support going to ukraine needs to be matched in other parts of the world. so, the fact that the ukraine crisis is showing what the

humanitarian community is capable of, the kind of solutions and focus we can bring to bear, it's very important. we can't constrain it to ukraine. one of the messages from the african summit that you mentioned, from african leaders is, look, we don't want double standards. you can't treat ukraine different than the treatment of somalia and ethiopia. that's certainly a very strong message of our watchlist report. >> such an important point. david miliband, thank you, thanks to the irc for all the great work you do around the world. we really appreciate this. >> thanks a lot. >> and we have breaking news from the united nations today, where iran has been removed from the organization's commission on the status of women. with the u.s. among the 29 votes for removing iran, russia and china, among the eight countries voting in support of iran. 16 nations abstaining. today's vote follows a crackdown across iran, including public executions. one in public since week, after thousands protested the death of 22-year-old mahsa amini.

>> today, we came together at the united nations and stood with iranian women. iranian girls, and the iranian people. iran's membership directly undermines the commissions work. its membership was a stain on our credibility. today, we removed that stain. >> and coming up, the exit interview. she came to congress after unspeakable tragedy. later becoming a champion of a free reproductive health and other rights. now, jackie speier is ready to begin her next chapter and she joins me next. you are watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. ortsn omsnbc.

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for women's rights since her election in 2008. in 2000, 11 she got personal on the house floor during a debate over funding for planned parenthood. saying she previously had had an abortion. >> that procedure that you just talked about was a procedure that i endured. i lost a baby. but for you to stand on this floor and to suggest, as you have, that somehow this is a procedure that is either welcomed or done cavalierly or done without any thought his preposterous. >> speier first became known nationally as a congressional aide to congressman leo ryan. in 1970, eight when they went to guy, and they were investigating cult leader jim jones as reports of abuse among

hundreds of parishioners from his san francisco congregation had followed him. when the team tried to go, taking people with, and members of jones's team ambush them on a jungle tarmac. killing the congressman and for others, including nbc correspondent don harris and nbc camera man bob brown. speier was shot five times and left for dead. jones and his henchmen then got more than 900 of the cult members to drink poisoned kool-aid and died by suicide in the jungle. speier eventually recovered after many surgeries, and a 2008 she won congressman ryan's old seat, inspired in part by the aftermath of her heroism during the jonestown massacre. joining me now is democratic congresswoman jackie speier, who announced last year she was not going to seek reelection. congresswoman, we've talked over the years. as you know, i covered jonestown more than 40 years ago.

what led you to the decision at the height of your power and seniority to decide not to run? >> you know, it was a hard decision, andrea. but it's time to pass the torch to a new generation. i have a husband at home who is tired of a weekend wife after 20 years. and it's time to go home, but i'm not losing my voice. i intend to be very engaged locally and still on a federal level, when it comes to issues around abortion, gun violence and our military men and women. >> so, you were one of the first members of congress to share your story about abortion. and, response obviously, to the debate and some of the things that were being said by the men in that debate. how far along have we come? now, after dobbs and after all of these state laws? >> we've lost 50 years of rights for women in this country. but for the few states that

allow it, we've got 26 states now that are basically prohibiting abortions. i mean, basically mandating by government that you carry a pregnancy to term. and when he realized that 57% of the women who have abortions are already mothers, it's because they want to take care of the children that they have. they are oftentimes single parents. >> in your case, there was a problem, fatal problem with the fetus. >> right, the fetus had flipped to the cervix and then to the vagina. it was not survivable. but the way i was treated and the way they were referring to second trimester abortions on the floor, by reading from a book that was full of nonsense, was so offensive to me that i spoke up. >> you know, i can't even imagine, also, dealing with the post traumatic stress and the physical problems from the

initial tragedy that you experienced in the jungles of diana. you had years and years of recuperation. >> i did. i was a physical therapy for over five years. the body is remarkable, it's a piece of equipment. and that i was able to regenerate just naturally my radio nerve. i still have two bullets that i carry with me, a very scarred body, but i'm alive. it was such a powerful message of how short some of our lives are and how important it is to live every day as fully as possible. >> what about the emotional effects of that kind of violence you experienced? also the violence in johnstown. >> the emotional effect is real. i think for all the survivors, there is guilt for having survived, to survivors guilt. every time there's a 21 gun

salute, my body kind of reacts to that. it takes time to recover. and there is a certain anxiety that you carry with you. but i tried to turn that into a positive and become fearless, in terms of addressing a lot of the legislative issues that i have dealt with. >> what accomplishments are you most proud of? >> well, i would start with the issue of taking sexual assault and sexual harassment out of the chain of command in the military. dealing with the metoo congress act, making members of congress actually responsible and for any sexual harassment they engage in. having to pay for it out of their own pockets. pediatric cancer research, we've increased from 1% of the nih budget to 8%. and the rosé the reveler congressional gold medal was one that was kind of fun to get through. a lot of the issues around women, reproductive health.

one regret is not getting the deadline in the year a struck, so that we could in fact heaven say that you can't discriminate on the basis of sex. >> i was thinking the other day, i want to houston for the women's conference as a local reporter based year, and we went down to 1977 the women's leaders. the absolute, gloria steinem, surely chose home. and three first ladies, three first ladies, including rosalynn carter and betty ford. the fact that they ran out of time with one state, fridge in, yet still left to ratify. and the deadline expired and that legislation never got passed. >> that's right. and then we do have 38 states that actually ratified that equal rights amendment. and it's just striking, that deadline, which is in the preamble of the amendment.

24 words. and where the only country with a written constitution that does not have an equal rights amendment in it. >> and when you look at congress now, it's it in better shape than when you came? there are more women. >> there are more women. >> more people of color. >> that is true. there's more than doubled the number of women when i first got to congress. so, that's a very positive change. but it's gotten very toxic, and it's become a political push and pull. it is in fact a blood sport now, which has to end. and we've got to tone down the rhetoric, because we've seen too much violence as a result of it. >> social media of course being a big contributor to that. it campaign money. >> that's right. if you are in right outrageous enough on social media, you can raise more money. >> it's a vicious cycle.

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that's the planning effect. from fidelity. ten years ago today one of the country's most devastaing tragedies took place at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut, when 20 sandy hook elementary students and 6 adults were murdered this a mass shooting that tried to focus the country's attention on a growing gun violence epidemic. this morning president biden said we should have societal guilt for taking too long to deal with this problem. we have a moral obligation to pass and enforce laws that it prevent these things from happening again. the president continued, we owe it to the young survivors and the families that lost part of their soul ten years ago to turn their pain into purpose. senior national correspondent snow spoke with some of the

survivors of that tragedy today. >> katelyn and her former students have a bond that's hard to put in words. >> how is everything going? you're so big. >> reporter: julia is 16 and lauren 117 is 1. but kaitlyn can picture them at the start of first grade. >> what i remember about julia is she always had a smile on her face. she was very vivacious and full of rife. lauren took school very seriously. >> reporter: ten years ago, they survived the unthinkable. she crammed her students in baa bathroom in the back of the classroom. >> i did what any teacher would do. i can only think whoever helped us to get into that bathroom. if you had seen it, you would never think that 16 people could fit inside of it. >> i remember a lot from that

day. i remember i cried when the noises started. i remember holding everyone and holding all my classmates. >> i pretty much the only thing i think about is she saved mutt life. not physical, but mentally. >> by what she said? >> just keeping us close. even in the bathroom, just having us with, and being in our presence helped a lot. >> do you remember anything she said? >> one thing she said is that she loved us. going back thinking about it, that was the first thing that i think about. >> they are 6. and i'm thinking they are about to die. and i want them to know how loved they are. i couldn't fathom in my 29-year-old mind like that this is it for them. >> you wanted one of last things they heard to be i love you. >> i needed it to be. sdwl a s.w.a.t. team led them to

safety. >> without her quick thinking, i wouldn't be here today. neither would any of of my classmates. i'm so thankful. >> that's the bond. >> she's kind of like my second mom part. >> in the months afterward, they classroom received gifts from all over the country and kaitlyn saw a way to teach. >> i said, why did somebody do this for us they raised their hands and said, well, someone wanted us to be happy. i said, exactly. what's our job now? we should probably help someone. we should probably find someone else and mail them something they might need. >> her students sent a smart board to another school in need. that inspired a foundation encouraging other classrooms to do kindness projects. >> one-fourth grade student kindness can make a difference. it has to start with someone mite white not us. sdwl they took the lesson to heart. both have volunteered helping animals. ten years on, julia dreams of

being a mechanic. lauren wants to be a superintendent. >> you want to be in a position to enact change to make sure this issue happen to any other student in america. >> it strikes me that it was one of the most horrible days in the history of this country and people were lost and it shaped who you are now. all those things are true. >> for me, the remembrance is every second of every minute of every hour of every single day. and that is the truth. and so yes, here we are at ten, but that's no different than yesterday or the day before that. >> you live with it. you move forward this your life. clearly, these two girls have moved forward, but you don't ever move on. it's a part of you. that's okay. >> our thanks to kate snow for that extraordinary report. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports."

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