thinking about extremism costing the republicans and possibly what a post trump future would look like? >> what i learned essentially that they are no law longer capable of thinking beyond the strategy of doubling down. everything they do, whether results in losses are not, is essentially boils down to let's double down, let's make this more extreme. let's show how tough we can actually be and let's show how badly we can punish the left. >> there is a sense, the old joke about marks society, to communism is never been tried. we just haven't committed total war enough. we have been too soft, we need total war in the ballot boxes, and in the courtroom and in the streets. michael edison, great reporting. doing the elements of reporting which is showing up to a place and reporting what you heard. thank you very. much >> thank you very much. chris >> that is all in on this wednesday night. alex wagner starts right. now good evening. alex night. alexgood evening chris, the

doubling down should not surprise us given past behaviors yet it's still shocking every time you see new evidence. >> i don't like tug of war as a phrase but in the context particular which it's being uttered. >> exactly thank he was always my. fran thank you at home for joining us this hour. this is what was hurt in california state court this morning. at 2:27 a.m. on october 28th, the 9-1-1 dispatcher responded to a call from san francisco. it was a strange call because the caller was clearly in distress. but with the assailant still nearby he was trying to sow duffy was placing an ordinary phone call and not an emergency plea for help. this is how it went. quote, dispatcher, who is this? do you need? how caller there is a gentleman here waiting for my wife to, come waiting for my wife to come back. she's not going to be here for days so i guess we will have to wait. dispatcher. do you need police or fire? caller. i don't think so, is a capitol police around?

they are usually here at the house protecting my wife. dispatcher, know this is san francisco police. caller, no i understand. okay well, what do you think? i've got a problem but he says everything is good. the gentleman came into the house. dispatcher, do you know who the person is? call, or no i don't know who he is. he told me not to do anything. dispatcher, what is your address? or what is your name? caller, my name is paul pelosi. in court today, prosecutors presented evidence against david to pack, the man who broke in the house speakers nancy pelosi's house and october and attacked her husband paul. prosecutors showed body cam video of him attacking pelosi with a hammer, that 9-1-1 call you just heard an excerpt of, that was paul pelosi doing his best to suddenly inform the dispatcher that something was wrong without tipping off the man who had just invaded his home.

one of the san francisco's police officers who responded that call took the stand today to describe what he saw when he got to pelosi's own. both pelosi and pat holding a hammer. when the officer told him to drop, at body cam video played in court saying depape saying nope. he then began to violently assault paul pelosi with the hammer. after today's hearing, the judge ruled that the prosecution has sufficient evidence for the pop to stand trial. he faces state charges for attempted murder, battery, assault plus other federal charges. the on the extremity of the crime, what is remarkable and all of this is just how calm paul pelosi was, and how his wife has calmly resolutely dialed with the attack in her family while continuing her work as speaker of the house. even as certain republicans have actively made fun of this assault or chosen to ignore it can entirely or not grasp the entirety of what happened there that day. today, paul pelosi attended a

congressional summary for some life nazi, whose official portrait is the 52nd speaker of the house was unveiled today. congressional leaders both past and present, including former republican speaker that is john boehner gathered to celebrate the first woman speaker who's leading leadership on january 3rd of next year. this is how former speaker boehner describe his relationship with speaker pelosi. >> madam speaker, you and i have disagreed politically on many things over the years, but we were never disagreeable to each other. madam speaker, i have to say, my girls told me, tell the speaker how much we admire her. [applause] you've been incredibly effective as the leader of your caucus. the younger generation today has a saying game recognizes game. >> now that is a former republican speaker of the house who was today able to walk the

bridge of bipartisanship and say something nice about a democrat, game recognizes game. which is behavior that is honestly sort of an recognizable in the present republican whose caucus. john boehner made a good point. speaker pelosi does get things done, a lot of them. pelosi's legacy, her ability to unite a boisterous democratic party and basically keep them in legislative lockstep stands in stark contrast to her aspiring republican successor kevin mccarthy who is seeing his caucus come apart at the seams. and while mccarthy figures out whether he will even have enough votes to become speaker in january, his party is becoming ever more extreme. already house republicans say they plan to investigate how alexandra mayorkas. yesterday 20 members of congress gathered to call for impeaching him. that includes andy bates, who

says he will challenge kevin mccarthy for the speaker miss speakership. other republicans like marjorie taylor greene, have called for investigating speaker pelosi over the unfair treatment of january 6th defendants. and kevin mccarthy, what is he doing with all of this? he shown willingness to entertain all of these requests. despite previously saying that no biden official deserve to be impeached, mccarthy is now calling for mayorkas to resign. and he defend his colleagues in the house who defied subpoenas for the january 6th committee. >> are you saying you will defend your colleagues for not going -- to know. >> we did nothing wrong. i'm not so sure about that. because this week we learned that 34 republican members of congress were texting white house chief of staff mark meadows with strategies and conspiracy theories all in an attempt to keep donald trump in office after he lost the 2020 election. and even a growing wing of the

party, even as this happens, even as they are threatening to tank's ascension, kevin mccarthy is willing to make concessions just to hold a speakers gavel. all the while the party standard bearer donald trump, his ripping votes from mccarthy. the new york times reports that trump has been working the phones to vote mccarthy for speaker. but even trump cannot stem the revolt. there topped a man's been that mr. mccarthy green events to snap photographs of the speaker at anytime. which is a lot like electing someone with a provision that can be unelected anytime. it's not exactly a wig. which is kevin mccarthy's said he's not down for that. as far as a seeker welcome donald trump. donald trump is 61% of republican voters say they would prefer a different nominee with donald trump's policies over donald trump himself. that is maybe why donald trump

is seizing a major announcement tomorrow, teasing on social too, america needs a superhero. the problem is that more republican voters seem to think that hero is florida governor ron desantis and not donald trump. ron desantis's trouncing donald trump in hypothetical match ups. and desantis is leaning forward into conspiracy theories, recently announcing a state investigation of pfizer and moderna for allegedly misleading fluorine's and telling fox viewers about the event of benefits of vaccinations are miniscule. none of this is true. but it plays well with a certain part of the republican base, even if it threatens the health and safety of all americans. republicans seeking power are willing to pay requests all, all of them to get that power. come what may. joining us now to discuss all this is congressman ruben gallego of arizona, who's considering a challenge to

senator kyrsten sinema. he's just returned from a bipartisan congression of the ukraine. it's good to have you here. just one start with the events of the day, but the soon to be former speaker, and the coming speaker. i was drawn to this new york times piece analyzing the ways in which nancy pelosi still fully consolidated votes to make sure she was elected speaker of the house. i just want to read this back to you. miss pelosi in 2018 when she was challenge for the speakership, she won seven votes by going to limit her tenure, picked up another eight by promising to implement rules aimed at fostering more bipartisan legislating, and went over her soul would be challenger but committing a subcommittee chairmanship for her. at no point did she have to endorse big lies or impeachment proceedings. she was able to pretty masterfully consolidate power. would you contrast the speaker meant ship of nancy pelosi with the attempt to gain the

speakership on the part of kevin mccarthy? >> yes i can't, because i actually lead one of the leadership challenges to her in the post-2016 election where we tried to actually have someone else come in and take over, someone called tim ryan who you all know now. she skillfully was able to blunt our efforts. at the end of the day, was really able to bring the caucus together and get the votes that she needed, and really not only get the votes but over the next two years after that essentially when a lot of us that were still doubting her leadership over. that is a skillful politician, a skillful person who actually leads with values and actually believes first in america and then tries to put the coalition around that to really push forward. in contrast with someone like mccarthy who is just a very vapid politician who cares first about power but not necessarily but what you do

with that power. he will sell whatever cause it is to get the title of speaker ship, of the speaker but not necessarily yielding not power in a way that benefits every day americans. there is a reason why asked to go this extraordinary straps where is somebody like speaking pelosi who did it and did it consistently and really won over a lot of her opponents because she led with to american values instead of the vapid, vacuous nature that i think kevin mccarthy does. >> there also seems to be a difference between the two respective caucuses right? democrats were not calling for cabinet secretaries to be impeached and we're not in on a conspiracy to overthrow the government right? we'll set that aside. but there seems to be a really true character difference that you are alluding to, which is the strength of nancy pelosi contrasted with the inherent weakness of kevin mccarthy. donald trump is the person that says, i don't know if he said this for begun, but he's always suggested that you can't be weak because when people smell

weakness they will take advantage of you. it seems like the republican caucus knows that kevin mccarthy is hopelessly, endlessly weekend are taking advantage of him at this moment. what do you think that portends for his speakership if he actually does get the gavel? >> well look, i think it portends that if he speaker his speaker name. when you have to compromise yourself, compromise to give up so much power, than essentially making a lot of people blow you more powerful than then you are. you have the title, but you actually don't have a leadership to lead your caucus. what does that mean? that's a very dangerous situation for this country, because in tough times you need someone to actually lead with two values with courage and not really think about these types of basic political decisions, which is unfortunate going to happen. kevin mccarthy is not gonna be able to get a set of a debt

ceiling fight, inoculate keep the government open. all these things will be very consequential to americans. he's gonna mess up, number one because he doesn't have it in, number two intellectually he's definite out there, and number three because he has zero leadership skills except for knowing how to maybe obliterate some people here in their, but that does not mean you are a leader, that means you know how to suck up to people. that's not how you can lead a caucus and protect the country at the same time. >> i have to ask you because your name's been in the news at with regards to the upper chamber. that kristen sinema as announced that she's gonna be independent. do you intend to challenge her in 2024 and you think that this could create chaos? >> well look, we are doing everything we need to do get get ourselves in position to make a decision for 2024. i'm gonna go back to arizona and talked to arizonans and have very frank conversations about what they need to see the future of arizona to look like

and what they want their candidates to look like. no, i don't believe this is chaos. it's not chaotic to have democracy, having three people run and talking about what the future should look like, that we should be working for arizonian families. it's not chaotic, it's called democracy. it's an okay thing, and i certainly believe that when democrats because we have in the last three cycles, when we talk about our vision, what we can bring to everyday working families to make sure their lives are better, to make sure they live the american dream, i'm sure if we do that we will win. >> i think the reason polling shows, eternal this is an official polling term, whomping the respective matchup. 74 to 16%. is that math correct? 58 point margin. you had said previously that you think if she does run, she would pull votes maybe away from republicans and not actually eat into the democratic base in the state of arizona. to stand by that? i think her vote for democrats

is not strong enough -- >> number one, i reason i think it makes a difference she's deeply unpopular with democrats not because she left the party because their values and not been in line with everyday working arizonans for quite awhile. she's more likely to be with lobbyists and with constituents. she is likely to work with henchmen hedge managers than farmers. she's actually more likely to work with pharmaceuticals to keep costs high. i don't care who you are. it can be a democrat republican or independent, those values don't lie with arizona. she can try to play the game she wants. she certainly not gonna get many votes from democrats, i doubt should be able to get some from independents, and good luck with the republicans, but i don't think the republicans really want to go to fight for farm at the end of the day. >> i believe that's living called living in no man's land, something kevin mccarthy might be familiar. with congressman movement diego

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in america who doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that i do. the majority of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids between the ages of five and ten years old. they had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, their own. >> that was the scene at the white house ten years ago today, when a 20 year old man armed with an ar-15-style semiautomatic rifle walked into

a elementary school in newtown, connecticut, and killed 20 children and six adults. president obama reflected on that moment at a benefit for the victims of sandy hook last week. >> i consider december 14th, 2012, the single darkest day of my presidency. and like so many other people, i felt not just sorrow, but i felt anger. theory that could allow such a thing to happen. >> the former presidents sorrow and anger is something that people across the country share, and especially in the face of a gun violence epidemic that continues today. the children who died at sandy hook that day would be 16 and 17 years old this december. they be preparing to enter their final years of high school. and the decades since their murder, mass shootings in america have nearly tripled, according to the nonprofit gun violence archive. we've seen people gunned down

at grocery stores, in nightclubs, and even in other elementary school in uvalde, texas. we have watched republican lawmakers in the very same state not just failed to act, but make it easier to obtain a weapon in this country. all that as the conservative majority on the supreme court has blunted the ability of states like new york to pass their own gun safety provisions. but this decade since the newtown tragedy has also brought some cause for optimism. the right-wing provocateur alex jones, who spread conspiracy theories about the sandy hook shooting being a hoax, he is being ordered by a judge to pay over one billion dollars to the families of those victims as part of a defamation lawsuit. the once powerful nra has been hobbled by a lawsuit in new york state and by its own financial mismanagement. and this summer, president biden signed into law the first bipartisan gun safety legislation in decades. so the ten years since the horrific events at sandy hook have been punctuated by moments

of darkness, but also moments of light. and while every year on the anniversary of newtown, connecticut senator chris murphy delivers a speech on the senate floor decrying americas gun violence problem, this year, he expressed some optimism about what has been done and what's ahead. >> what we communicated this summer to those kids, and the parents, is that we care. our answer isn't nothing. right? so, as much as i experienced this as a father, i also know that we've made progress. and that progress is being logistical, practical, but also metaphysical. it's been emotional. what we did this summer also gave kids in this country, parents in this country, a little bit of a feeling, right. we're going to be there for them, and hopefully, more in the future. >> joining us now is the democratic senator from connecticut, chris murphy. senator, thank you for joining

me tonight. i think it's really important that this conversation be different in the traditional conversation on gun safety and gun violence, which is to say, let us talk about the points of optimism. and i want to start there with you first. what are you feeling good -- and i would say best about, when it comes to gun violence in this country in the progress we're making on this issue? >> well, alex, thanks for having me on. i think today, on this ten year mark of sandy hook, the thing that i feel best about is the difference that the families have made. those families in sandy hook, many of them became politically active. and a responsible in part for the success we had this summer. but they've also started up charitable organizations, not-for-profits that have just sought to make their communities life better. so, there's a lot of good that comes from those families. that's what made me optimistic today. but as i said today in my speech, it is true that finally, ten years later, we have built a movement to make our schools

and our communities safer that is now powerful in the gun lobby. in 2013, the year after sandy hook, we lost a bill trying to strengthen our gun laws. this summer, we passed a comprehensive measure, that as we speak, is saving lives. and i feel like we're entering a period of time now where the anti gun violence movement is going to win, consistently, at the federal level and at the state levels. we've had 500 different laws passed, tightening our nations firearm statutes at the state level. so, i stand here today -- it's painful to think back to what happened ten years ago. it's hurtful for those families to know that it took ten years for congress to act in a meaningful way. but i think we're entering a moment in which we are going to be able to get consistent winds to make our country safer. and that's a credit, first and foremost, too many of those families from sandy hook who will become part of this movement, leaders of this movement, even admits their deep sorrow and grief. >> senator, in your remarks on the floor today, you are invoking parenthood. and i know you had little kids

at the time of newtown who are now adolescents. and children, students, have been at the forefront of so much of the activism around gun safety. i wonder about your own kids, what is the conversation at home with a father who represents the state of connecticut, the site of on the most horrific tragedies as far as school shootings, do they think you slashed the upper chamber has done enough? they feel the same optimism you do? >> so, i think part of the reason why we were able to break through this summer is because republicans and democrats went back to their states after uvalde and buffalo and really saw a level of anxiety and fear that they've never seen before. parents were just absolutely beside themselves, thinking about the idea that even after uvalde, and sandy hook, that congress is going to do nothing. and as really a test of democracy in some ways. which is why i think we got just enough republicans to step up and help us. as a parent, obviously, i

experience this through my kids. and i think every kid deals with it differently. my older child tonight was just talking about like, what it feels like to walk through metal detectors every day when he goes to his middle school. and i just think he's kind of used to it at this point. but my youngest son, when he went to his first active shooter drills a kindergarten or, it rattled him. he did not know exactly why it was happening, but he knew enough to tell me that daddy, i did not like that, being packed into a bathroom with 26 of his classmates. i think every kid reacts differently to. it but many of them are going through trauma because they walk into school every day and they fear for their lives. and for those kids, we owe it to them to try to change that daily existence. >> what of the bipartisan gun safety bill that president biden signed into law the summer? i know that you and some of your colleagues have been briefed on how that law is working. can you tell us anything about the measurable difference in may or may not be making?

>> so, i've got a really compelling briefing from the department of justice about two weeks ago on the implementation of the bipartisan safer communities act. no, it doesn't do everything we want. it's not universal background checks, it's not a ban on assault weapons. but the department of justice staffers who came in, and these weren't presidential appointees, these are folks who implement the background check laws, they were really excited to tell me about this bill because they had evidence that it had saved lives. they had stopped people from buying weapons that clearly were dangerous that were threatening harm against themselves or others, because of this law. we now have a much more substantial background checks for younger purchasers of firearms. we don't sell guns to any domestic abusers any longer. we're helping states implement red flag laws, this allows states to take guns away, temporarily, for people who have actually made threats against a school or against themselves. and what i learned is just in

the first few weeks of implementation, lives have been safe. so, of course we have a lot more to do. but we should be proud of the fact that this movement, that so many just rank and file regular americans have helped to build, got a bill passed this summer that is absolutely stopping mass shootings, homicides, and suicides, literally as we speak. >> in addition to the legislative work, you also have been talking about the systemic issues that we have to address as a society. and i was really struck by an op read you wrote in the bulwark yesterday about our epidemic of loneliness. and the ways in which loneliness leads us into very dark and oftentimes violent, angry corners. i'll just read an exit. america was shot in 2017 when a white supremacist rally in charlottesville drew thousands. but this should have been no surprise. loneliness is driving people to dark dangerous places, and those young white men carrying tiki torches are only the tip of a giant iceberg of isolated violent people who search for

meaning might lead them into a seething antisemitic or racist mob. is this, is this part of what's to explain the extremism that we're seeing play out in the political arena? i mean, do you agree, do you think these ideas about loneliness are shared by your colleagues across the aisle? >> while, i'm really honored you read that piece. i think that a path to finding common ground between republicans and democrats is just spending more time, thoughtfully inspecting the problems in this country. i think if we really spent time digging in to what's hurting americans, we can more easily then make the next transition to solutions. i really think loneliness is an enormous problem in this country. the data tells us that. today, 30% of americans feel intense loneliness, 10% 30 years ago. 60% of teenagers feel lonely. and it doesn't make sense, right, because we have so many more ways to connect with each

other. there's something about online existence that is actually driving feelings of isolation. and the withering away of communities, of community institutions, of downtown, all those opportunities we used to have to connect with human beings in person, they're gone. we now by our groceries and we do our shopping online. but we've got to talk about this epidemic of isolation and loneliness. and yes alex, i do think republicans and democrats both agree that this is a problem. i think if we really spend the time thinking about how people feel in this country, we might have an easier time getting to the solutions. because i bet you republicans the democrats both care about restoring the health of churches and local civic clubs. both republicans and democrats are talking about regulating social media to have more healthy experiences for our teens. so, i think this common ground there. and i'm glad that people are paying attention to this piece i wrote the other day about loneliness and isolation. i learned a lot riding it. >> it's a really beautifully

written piece. and it's a very deeply thoughtful piece about reclaiming our shared humanity. and i think now, and especially a day like today, is a time to read it if you have not. senator chris murphy, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, president biden is reportedly poised to grant president zelenskyy's biggest wish. we'll tell you what it is. but first, what is this little house in a safe, sleepy town and new hampshire have to do with russia's brutal war on ukraine? i will tell you all about it. stay with us. stay with us ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪

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that became evident this summer when the u.s. sent ukraine high mobility artillery rockets. the weapon did what is supposed to do, it hit its targets, and ukrainians did what they were supposed to do, they fired the rockets where it mattered. together they effectively changed the direction of this war. general mark milley, shimon chairman of the joint chiefs of staff's, said that the himars strikes that hit more than 400 and targets including animals and command depots. the attacks on command facilities have congressional leaders on the move and disrupted their communications, making more difficult for them to direct combat operations. none of this is what russian putin was expecting. if anything, putin thought the whole ukraine chapter was gonna be a very short one. the ten-day operation that russia would easily dominate. but almost ten months into this war, ten months, ukraine has defied even of the wildest expectations. those successes of come at a price. russia's ground forces have not been able to defeat ukraine,

but the battle in the air, that is an entirely different matter. using primarily around e iranian made drones, they've been deterring energy infrastructure indiscriminately, pummeling much of that country into cold and darkness where it is winter begins. close to 50% of the country's energy facilities have already been affected by russian attacks, and remaining 50% remain under constant threat of bombardment. now hitting civilian areas and infrastructure is a war crime but russia clearly does not care about that. today putin's soldiers fired 13 iranian made drones into kyiv. local authorities said the drones were directed at the city but were all intercepted by ukraine. as russia continues to launch these attacks, ukrainian officials have intensified their pleas for more sophisticated air system. while the u.s. has been reluctant to do so, yet several outlets are now reporting that the biden administration may just be ready to send in the patriots.

not the super bowl winners, although i'm sure the president would welcome them to. these president these patriots. the patriot is the most advanced ground based air defense system in the american stockpile. it relies on sophisticated radar technology that can detect incoming threats miles away. it flies as high as 79,000 feet and it can be ready to strike in a matter of seconds. depending on the missile use, they can also destroy enemy aircraft about 100 miles away. president biden still has to approve this transfer, and there are a lot of outstanding questions and how to deliver and train ukrainian forces to use the system. but having patriot missile systems in ukraine, even just one of them, can make a serious difference in terms of protecting the country's power and infrastructure. the reaction to this saying, the patriots will likely become a legitimate target. but they did say the same thing about himars. some of those are still standing. that's not to dismiss the seriousness and ongoing dangers of this war.

on that front, putin recently warned russia may consider using nuclear weapons as a preventative measure and the arrival of the patriots could be seen as a provocation. the bigger point though is that ukraine needs them. president zelenskyy and ukrainian officials have been asking for the systems for months. it is his biggest wish if you will. and with any luck, it could arrive in time for christmas. joining us now is nelson clark, he's a leading analyst for the institute of war. mason, i appreciate you taking the time for telling us about the patriots with some of us may remember from the gulf or, but the technology seems pretty effective when you look at what's happening in ukraine. how do you see this changing over the game over there for zelenskyy versus putin? >> absolutely. so as you noted, two to their failures on the battlefield, the russians have switched trying to critic target critical ukrainian

infrastructure, in a misguided effort to force the ukrainian population to surrender, and sued zelenskyy for peace which is not gonna happen. but even the strikes that are getting through or having dire effects on the ukrainian government's dire ability to provide for its citizens in the winter. and already ukraine as a pretty high rate of shooting down russian missiles they shot down 80% of the iranian made drones. but even those have gotten through cause a lot of damage. getting's additional systems from the united states that are even more advanced will allow ukraine for the reinforces defenses around major cities like kyiv, and possibly more importantly signed their existing air defense systems closer to the front lines where they can fight back against russian airstrikes and have a more immediate impact on the fighting. >> do you think there's any doubt that the biden administration will send these over. and you think some of them ill may already be over.

i think they may just bring them over the ukraine? >> i don't think that the biden administration will fail to send assistance. it still may take us some time. but there's a good chance that some of the existing systems in europe will be redeployed in the ukraine, rather than systems here in the continental united states being sent over. however ukrainian crews are gonna be need to be trained on the patriots and that'll take some months, the most likely take place an existing u.s. bases in germany. i would be very surprised if that is already ongoing, considering the reticence that the white house has had for some time about providing this assistance. so it's very likely that this won't kick in an active active offense in ukraine for some months. but it is very good and will be helpful to ukraine that the process starting now. >> how does putin take this? he's been ratcheting up the rhetoric. does this have an escalatory

effect? we have been saying the phrase armageddon and nuclear war often on but does this ever measurable effect on that? >> sure. while the first thing i would note is that we think it's incredibly unlikely that putin will use nuclear weapons in ukraine at this point and certainly not against nato and the u.s.. the point is there's not a lot that putin can do to escalate. the strikes against critical ukrainian infrastructure where the escalation that he kept threatening after his battlefield losses. these were designed to prevent those further. the russians are struggling to get forces to the front lines. they're likely gonna continue attacks into january in february as they pull together more reinforcements. but i don't really see that being a chance of leading to some new russian escalation. it's very important remember how many times throughout this war the kremlin's stated redlined such as this and then back down, not being able to follow through. they've claimed any number of

western provided systems have been legitimate targets and as you noted have been amid unable to strike them. >> he really dismantle the efficacy of the red line if you keep crossing it yourself. when i ask, if the patriots system is gonna take months to train ukrainian fighters on, and that puts us in the spring, what happens this winter? how do you see this war playing out? ukrainian people are dealing with freezing conditions, what they are suffering through, the gravity of it cannot be overstated. how do you see the next couple of months play out in this war? >> so the russians are still conducting a pretty ineffective attacks on eastern ukraine, particularly around this one city bakhmut doggedly for some months. but we are actually likely going to see is some further form of ukrainian attack like we saw earlier in the fall. one interesting aspect of the

fighting and in ukraine in eastern europe in general as well the conditions are bad right now, with the mud and cold temperatures, on the ground completely freezes in late december and in january, it actually begins becomes easier to connect armored warfare. tax don't get bogged down in the mud. ukrainians are seeing likely preparing for aggressive operations and that deepest winter period. whoever that doesn't of course mitigate the suffering of the ukrainian civilians, and russian strikes are continuing to inflict costs on ukrainian government and the ukrainian population. all the sort of great irony of this war that all putin has done is eliminated any shred of pro russian sentiment in ukraine and i don't see this doing this what putin wanted to do, forcing ukraine to surrender. >> the fact that we're talking about this ten months later is an indication of. that mason clark, lead analyst for the russian institute of war. thank you for making time for us tonight mason.

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senate dreams possible casualty of georgia's runoff elections could be the runoffs themselves. today's secretary of state brad raffensperger calls for lock makers in the state and the general election runoffs because of how often georgia voters have to head for the polls in these elections. file that under gdr think? -- it was a state's third senate runoff in two years. when nbc asked senator raffensperger to explain his opposition to runoffs he explained that election workers are burned out and that everybody just everybody hates these cells. again file that for gta? think what they filed to mention that georgia's restrictive voting law be tool to help to make the election cycle a whole lot more miserable this year. that law which was passed by the republican controlled legislator and assigned by the republican governor, shorten the time between the general and the runoff election from

nine weeks to four and reduce the early voting days from 16 to 5. so now the republican secretary of state is trying to solve a problem created by republican legislators by pushing to change the threshold for winning in general election from 50 to 45% of the vote, and starting in rank choice instant runoff so voters would have to go back to the polls. which sounds pretty reasonable and also begs the question, why does georgia even have runoff elections in the first place? that is thanks to this guy. state lawmaker and staunch segregationist called denmark gruver. when he lost his race, 1958 data from the segregating polling places said black voters untold to target him out of office. when hoover -- if georgia lawmakers take raffensperger's suggestion to change the threshold for winning office, the